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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the way I wanted to always talk

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Speaker 3: the game is the way that I talk the game

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Speaker 3: amongst people who respect the game. Right, So yeah, you're

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Speaker 3: I'd rather just talk about your game, tell you what

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Speaker 3: to keep that line drom from a man and a player, right,

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Speaker 3: So I would never to the man's side of you.

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Speaker 2: I'll never touch the character.

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Speaker 3: But if I see something that I think you should

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Hey, I think Shaq should be rebounding

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Speaker 3: more because of x y Z. Here's why I think that.

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Speaker 3: So that's just my way of talking the game. Everybody's different.

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Speaker 4: Though you get spicy, you get spicy on that.

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Speaker 1: The reason why I get spicy is because we have

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Speaker 1: Ain't nobody better than you comes to dominating the originalbody

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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to do is also give them the information. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know what I'm talking about when it coming off

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Speaker 1: Sometimes we'll be like, yo, you think I'm trying to

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Speaker 4: But when you in the league. Did you call him?

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Speaker 1: Ever?

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Speaker 5: I've always been interested by this because comedy is different

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Speaker 5: than and it's you know, masterfu over here, you know

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Speaker 2: He's calling the game, yeah, or just like you're.

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Speaker 4: One of the masters of the game, I'm gonna call you.

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Speaker 2: So when you are vice or wisdom that's playing.

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Speaker 3: You know, when you sitting and watching those guys talk

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Speaker 3: pay attention to when Shaq is talking about how a

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Speaker 3: that because that is a skillful part of the game

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Speaker 3: that everybody should know. If you're big, you should be

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Speaker 3: you should be able to jump hook right, jump hook left,

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Speaker 2: You should be dominant down there.

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Speaker 3: A lot of time He's coming from a standford of bid,

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Speaker 3: Right, we would never see this power ever again, this

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Speaker 3: I want to hear Barkley talk about the power forward, saying,

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Speaker 5: So I've seen you be vocal about Rudy Gobert in your.

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Speaker 3: Opinions of him, and I've seen you get on him

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Speaker 5: Explain why you've been so critical of Shock about Rudy.

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Speaker 3: I understand that be the force or even the style

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Speaker 3: He's never gonna be able to do that. But he's

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Speaker 5: Stall him out at least leader respect, I respect community

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you've been broker in peace on seven PM.

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Speaker 2: I have been trying to get parties into relationships.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want no problems. So it's too tough.

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Speaker 2: I think people how to cut you up. People don't know.

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Speaker 1: That, right.

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Speaker 2: I know that, we know that, right, people don't do

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Speaker 1: Giving you all the information, all right, So let me

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Speaker 1: tell you a couple of secrets. This thing of ours.

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Speaker 1: The money is great, right, the money is so great.

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Speaker 1: So now if you're making that much money, you're not performing,

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Speaker 1: they start to look at us like they're gonna take

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Speaker 1: you're making two fifty. So if you're making two fifty,

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Speaker 1: like you're worth two fifty. That's all. I don't want

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Speaker 1: like to rebound, do certain things. That's all I ask for.

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Speaker 1: And he knows this, the fact there's conversation where they're

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Speaker 1: So when I say something, I'm actually trying to get

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Speaker 1: them didn't didn't make it make a lot, but they

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Speaker 1: Guardnett paid the way for guy and the money is

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Speaker 1: so great or not? Yes, I am jealous. I wish

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Speaker 1: But I'm not. So I want these guys to protect

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Speaker 1: this thing of ours because they say that they said

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Speaker 1: that Cooper Flag could be making no Adunchers would be

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Speaker 1: making ninety a year if you would have stayed with

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm hard on all big man as the

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Speaker 1: I want you to be a big man.

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Speaker 4: But sometimes shack you hit up with the low blows.

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Speaker 2: That's what you do.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, because I can I just do this because

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Speaker 4: So he broke my heart growing up.

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Speaker 5: You broke my heart growing up between nineteen ninety nine

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Speaker 5: and two thousand and three, you broke my heart the Sacramento.

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Speaker 4: That's all we had. You guys stood between us in

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Speaker 4: a championship. No, no, no, thank you, mellow and so.

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Speaker 5: And this is my moment, destiny Kiss Smith has made

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Speaker 5: I need you to take back the fact that you

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Speaker 5: called us the Sacramento queens.

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Speaker 1: No, I can't do it. I can't do it.

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Speaker 4: You're really gonna shut on Sacramento like this.

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Speaker 1: It's not.

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Speaker 4: It's a beautiful city with great people.

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Speaker 1: So you have the other thing.

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Speaker 4: You get two males now you committed.

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Speaker 2: You you do have an incredible.

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Speaker 4: Midtime and that we have R two D twos that

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Speaker 1: I'm the director of Sacramento State Basketball. I actually loved Sacramento.

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Speaker 1: But he knows this because I seen him talk trash

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Speaker 1: I wanted them to be at their basket because I

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Speaker 2: We have in the city for decades.

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Speaker 1: Bro listen, listen for decades. There was only one guy

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Speaker 1: who took that personal and that's why I love him. Respected. No, Mike, Baby,

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Speaker 1: my baby brought his boys to come and see me,

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Speaker 1: and as his boys like, you know, my people know,

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Speaker 1: and like, hey man, it's just about But it could

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Speaker 1: have went left team. Yes, I could have went left,

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Speaker 1: but but I I love Sacramento. And you know what

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Speaker 1: I've always loved about him is and the reason why

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Speaker 1: I never mess with him disrespect. Like when you see

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Speaker 1: And like I always talk about, all my guys are

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Speaker 1: I know my guys dope, but this guy's dope too.

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Speaker 1: But now let me just be a fan and just

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Speaker 1: I never mess with t Mac. I never messed with

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Speaker 1: white chocolate. All the other guards, I try to they

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Speaker 1: come to land. I tried to touch him up with

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Speaker 1: him what he did in college, we all saw it,

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Speaker 1: and then to bring that, and then bring that, and

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Speaker 1: then what he did with you. I've always had my

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