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Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host Paul Pierce Danny Green.

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Speaker 2: I'm Big Wise.

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Speaker 1: We got a dope show for you guys. Let's get

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Speaker 1: right into it. So Trey Young was Trey did finally

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Speaker 1: The rumors have been circulating for years now, but he

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Speaker 1: was traded to the Washington Wizards in the middle of

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Speaker 1: a Hawks game, which is kind of hilarious against the

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Speaker 1: Pelicans for CJ McCollum and Corey Kispert.

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Speaker 2: Just straight up no picks.

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Speaker 1: Oh so he was actually on the bench at the

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Speaker 1: game when he got moved, which is just yeah.

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Speaker 3: Left, it happened mid gate seconds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that's last thirty seconds.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah still so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, CJ McCollum, Corey Kispert, no picks involved on either side.

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Speaker 1: Just to straight up Trey Young to the Washington Wizards.

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Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Danny blasphemy, bro, It's Wild. Well, I think

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Speaker 3: the whole situation is kind of crazy. Right when you

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Speaker 3: see a superstar want to get traded, they usually want

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Speaker 3: to go to a team that you're like, okay, that

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Speaker 3: makes sense. The only thing that makes sense here is

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Speaker 3: that it's got the cap space and he gets the

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Speaker 3: bread and that it could be his team. But this

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Speaker 3: is not like a winning situation, and maybe he doesn't

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Speaker 3: need to right now, he's still young, but the fact

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Speaker 3: that his value again, we've seen Rudy Gobert get traded

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Speaker 3: for multiple players and picks. We've seen Desmond Bane get

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Speaker 3: traded for players and picks. Trey Young is a four

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Speaker 3: time All Star career average of twenty five and ten.

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Speaker 2: Twenty five point eight in like nine point twenty.

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Speaker 3: Five, that's his career average. It's it's kind of crazy

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Speaker 3: that they didn't get like Atlanta just kind of gave him.

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Speaker 3: They didn't get no youth, no draft cap, Like why

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Speaker 3: would you not, Like, I don't understand why you would

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Speaker 3: not get something like that in return.

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Speaker 1: Well, don't you think they wanted that in return? And

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Speaker 1: it just wasn't out there?

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Speaker 3: But then why make the deal so fast? You ain't

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Speaker 3: got a rush, so.

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Speaker 2: You saying they could have waited till the summer.

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Speaker 3: They could have waited they have at least a whole month,

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Speaker 3: like Trey could have maybe played a couple games, but

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Speaker 3: you could at least like seeing what else was out there.

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Speaker 1: Paul, what do you what do you think about the

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Speaker 1: trade on from the Atlanta perspective, because we're going to

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Speaker 1: get into the Washington But from the Atlanta perspective.

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Speaker 4: I'm never shocked at with the Atlanta Hawks as a

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Speaker 4: mid franchise, as a franchise who is not respected as

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Speaker 4: an organization because of ownership, they never do anything that

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Speaker 4: surprises me. So for them to give up a four

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Speaker 4: time All Star, a guy who's one of the elite

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Speaker 4: point guards in the league, who's got them to the

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Speaker 4: Eastern Conference and not even get a draft pick out

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Speaker 4: of it, that tells me you just wanted them out

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Speaker 4: of your city, out of your state. Take them like

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Speaker 4: take them in his prime. So like the organizations like

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Speaker 4: this will never be elite, organizations like this will never

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Speaker 4: win a championship in my lifetime. I guarantee that if

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Speaker 4: they do, I will crawl from LA to New York

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Speaker 4: on my knees. So it's not shocking to me, and

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be a middling friends for eternity.

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Speaker 1: Here's what I was saying though about this, And look,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a dog in the fight. I'm just

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Speaker 1: saying I think they wanted those type of offers that

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Speaker 1: you and Danny mentioned, but.

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Speaker 2: They're just not out there.

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Speaker 1: I don't think the league views Trey as the type

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Speaker 1: of player you give up multiple first round picks for anymore.

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Speaker 1: I think there was a time where people felt that way,

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Speaker 3: I get you, but he only played ten games and season,

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Speaker 3: so how quickly everybody forgets like how good he is?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: If you have to wait till the summer, I'm waiting till.

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Speaker 3: I'm not giving way till the summer. I'll wait till

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Speaker 3: he saw the play. He's gonna opt in that player

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Speaker 3: till next year. He's gonna play and show his value

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Speaker 3: and y'all need to.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying they could they could have waited till

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Speaker 1: treye opted into the I think.

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Speaker 3: Could could have waited what they could have waited till

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Speaker 3: whenever they could wait till next year. I would wait till

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Speaker 3: summer if I couldn't get it, always get something opt in?

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Speaker 1: Why would because the aren't out there like that, Like,

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Speaker 1: there's not a team that wants to give Trey Young

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Speaker 4: Years he's gonna like so he has one year with

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Speaker 4: forty nine, he.

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Speaker 1: Has an option to opt into that deal or if

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason. The reporting is that the Wizards haven't

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Speaker 1: excuse me, the yeah, the Wizard, I don't know why

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Speaker 2: To call him the bullets. The Wizards haven't committed to

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Speaker 2: an extension. It's it's it's a wait and see. So

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Speaker 2: he could either earn an extension.

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Speaker 3: With the win that's extremely wild.

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Speaker 1: Or opt into his deal, or become an unrestricted free

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Speaker 1: worth opting out of a fifty million dollar one year deal.

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Speaker 3: They also reported that they're not planning to play him

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Speaker 3: much the second half of the season. They want to

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Speaker 4: That that's for real. I think that no reporting.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to just rule the media.

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Speaker 1: Guys have people within the organizations, like they're not going

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Speaker 1: to rush him back from He allegedly has a quad

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Speaker 1: injury right now, which I think is one of those

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Speaker 1: bullshit injuries you on the trade block to just make

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Speaker 1: it not awkward for you to play, so he's not injured.

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Speaker 2: I don't think.

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Speaker 3: We don't think. But again, they're just saying they have

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Speaker 3: a protected pick and they want to keep that pick.

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Speaker 3: It drops out of eight, I think Nicks get it

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Speaker 1: Right, y'all really think Trey Young playing for the Wizards

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Speaker 1: makes them way better right now?

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Speaker 2: I don't think it threatens their pick.

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Speaker 4: I don't either.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's a better player than CJ. But like

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Speaker 4: system wise, when you have no practices, you're not going

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Speaker 4: to come here and make a huge difference.

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Speaker 3: No, but again, you still don't you want to give

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Speaker 3: yourself the best chance to get the best picks. And

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Speaker 3: if he plays, I think they've become Utah Jazz, Like

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Speaker 3: they're winning more games than they should. You know what

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Speaker 1: So wait before we move on to the to the Wizards,

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Speaker 1: because I do want to get on it.

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Speaker 2: But they get CJ, they get kissed for.

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Speaker 1: I think both of those guys are going to obviously

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Speaker 1: both of them are going to play and can help.

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Speaker 1: Both of them are expiring contracts, so they drop off

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Speaker 2: Automatically. I think that I think that's really what it was.

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Speaker 1: Atlanta was just like, we don't want Trey Young opting

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Speaker 1: into his deal, want to have that cap relief, still

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Speaker 1: draft capital, and also I think it's important just to

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Speaker 1: bring everybody back to Trey Young.

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Speaker 2: So they draft this guy. In twenty eighteen, they passed

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Speaker 2: up on Luca.

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Speaker 3: They were they traded up to get traded for each other.

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Speaker 1: They traded right so they they had they were in

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Speaker 1: the third position. They traded back in order to get

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Speaker 1: being cam Briddish Tough. So you passed up on Luca,

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Speaker 1: took Trey Young. Twenty twenty, he makes the All Star Team.

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Speaker 1: He ends up making four All Star teams. Twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 1: they had that incredibly exciting ye. Yeah, they had the

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Speaker 1: series with the Knicks where Trey Young was born. Super fun,

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Speaker 1: ended Ben Simmons career. Remember that was Trey Young underneath

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Speaker 1: the basket that Ben Simmons didn't want. Dunkles I was there.

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Speaker 1: Then they end up getting hurt in the Eastern Conference

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Speaker 1: Twenty two, there's these huge expectations for the Hawks. They

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Speaker 3: They end up just thinking of yeah, they had some

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Speaker 3: good well this summer, they made some good moves, right,

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Speaker 3: you're saying twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty two. I don't think they made a lot

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Speaker 1: They were the young guys back. Yeah, they end up

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Speaker 1: being a playing team. They look listless all year. They

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Speaker 1: look horrible. Go out and get the john Ty Murray

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Speaker 1: supposed to be like the kind of defensive as to

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Speaker 3: Get off the ball. Yeah, having like two guys on

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Speaker 2: Up not working at all.

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Speaker 1: And I think it's pretty much after that the Trey

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Speaker 2: Lose his luster.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which we ensure to get a guy that we

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Speaker 1: for getting to this point. Me personally, I think Trey

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Speaker 1: being a really small guy, like he's just a defensive

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Speaker 2: You know, Gary Payton.

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Speaker 1: Out there, he's a defensive liability and then you know,

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Speaker 1: you hear the rumors.

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Speaker 2: Guys don't like playing with him.

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Speaker 1: It's like, we gotta make all these sacrifices to lift

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Speaker 2: Then on offense you have one of the worst shots

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Speaker 1: You dominate possession of the ball, and it's like there's

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: I understand why Atlanta got to the point.

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Speaker 3: But if you have a Bugatti bro and it's still

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Speaker 3: still a Bugatti, say he's a Ferrari, he's a Ferrari,

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Speaker 3: and you have some car troubles with the car. You

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Speaker 3: as much as you can for it in return, or

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Speaker 3: even a solid you know what I'm saying, a solid,

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Speaker 3: nice little ride you can get your bends or something.

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Speaker 3: You know I'm saying, like and not di rerespected to

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Speaker 2: There's good players, the older player.

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Speaker 3: There's expiring conscience. But you didn't get no youth. You

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Speaker 3: didn't get nothing else. In like, to everybody else that's

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Speaker 3: watching it or looking at it, it's not enough. Trey

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Speaker 3: is still a very high quality player, and you didn't

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Speaker 3: get nothing in return from you dropped the ball again.

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Speaker 1: What I would say to that, Danny, is that again

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Speaker 1: d Aaron Fox came onto the market. You know, the

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Speaker 1: spurs are like, we know you where your preferred destination.

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Speaker 1: They gave up a couple of picks all of that

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Speaker 1: stuff for darreon Fox. He's not as decorated as Trey Young.

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Speaker 2: Trey Young like teams I think three years ago, what

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Speaker 1: Are saying is I think now teams just look at him,

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Speaker 1: big way in the biggest playoff games when it's just

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Speaker 3: So basically they had no leverage because he had no market.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm trying to say. I think Trey is

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Speaker 1: To rehabilitate his market, and I'm want to report what

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Speaker 4: Again, I think he's a guy you invest in anyway.

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Speaker 4: I think sometimes when you wear out your welcome in

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Speaker 4: The guy can play. Now. We always talk about a

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Speaker 4: Like we say the same things about Luca. Look, he

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Speaker 4: So what I see him doing in Washington, I see him,

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Speaker 3: Type of that there's no for sure on the table

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Speaker 4: They're like, why would you trade for him? Like why

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Speaker 2: No, Washington. First of all, like Washington, Atlanta wants the

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Speaker 1: Okay, Washington was scheduled to have like a record eighty

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Speaker 4: But why off then if they got eighty let's go

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Speaker 1: Well that's again, I don't know how if you're Washington, but.

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Speaker 4: It puts pressure on Washington. He ops out, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: They didn't give up anything for him.

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Speaker 3: They could just be like we traded for nothing. They

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Speaker 4: So you let them. They won't let him walk. He

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Speaker 2: He would have to walk.

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Speaker 1: He would have to walk away from fifty million dollars

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Speaker 2: At least thirty five mil.

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Speaker 1: And from what's been reported, that's not on the table

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Speaker 3: It will make it.

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Speaker 2: We'll see. So just to you know, just to wrap

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Speaker 1: I think Trey will I think he can be a

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Speaker 1: I think it slots all of the guys like Bubb

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Speaker 2: And I think Sar will be a nice pick and roll.

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Speaker 1: Partner for Trey uh And I think I think he'll

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Speaker 2: I think it could be good. But yes, it's just

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Speaker 1: And you know, Trey Young leaves the Hawks, is there

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Speaker 2: Eight assists per game for his career. Wow, only Magic

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Speaker 1: It's just crazy how he could be sort of seeing

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Speaker 2: Signature shoes all of this stuff.

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Speaker 3: The other day it was like a stat most games

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Speaker 1: Another thing that I saw that people pointed out, and

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Speaker 2: They don't you don't get those shit.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, the stuff where.

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Speaker 1: He would run into people in his back and throw

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: I think Trey is an alter talented guy. I was

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Speaker 1: It's just the last three years has just been It's

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Speaker 2: I just I just don't don't see it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fe I mean so unless we see something different

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Speaker 3: Like what you're saying, but he can get Can he.

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Speaker 2: Be a forty million a year?

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, he could be a forty

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Speaker 1: Thirty because like, if you're Trey Young, you're looking at like,

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Speaker 1: didn't y'all just pay Dice and Danyl something like twenty.

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Speaker 2: Five million year? I gotta be worth like thirty eight

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Speaker 4: You know, he's an all star.

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Speaker 1: Dyson Daniel's he couldn't hit the Ultra from the Titanic

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Speaker 3: What the extension they gave him.

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Speaker 1: I think it's five years, one, twenty five something like that,

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Speaker 3: Pete we was in the wrong year years, bro.

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Speaker 1: Dyson Daniels extension was, oh sorry, four years, million years.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. He can't even make an open corner three

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Speaker 1: Point, because Trey Young was doing a lot of the

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Speaker 2: Every body's making you money.

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Speaker 1: Show Picks of the Night presented by Prize Picks. Let's

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Speaker 1: get into it. Houston at the Portland Trailblazers. First up,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 3: Bro is, Yeah, this is easy. These first two more or.

450
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Speaker 2: Less than twenty eight and a half points.

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Speaker 3: It is singleing playing if he's out, definitely more than

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Speaker 3: I think he's still out twenty and a half. I'm

453
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Speaker 3: going more.

454
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 4: Up twenty and a half. They got them young athletes.

455
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,880
Speaker 4: Portner's been solid out here. I'm going less. I think

456
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Speaker 4: you'll have around twenty seven.

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Speaker 3: It's a back to back night, right because they played

458
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Speaker 3: it's back to back games, back back games. They played

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Speaker 3: this team back to back. Yeah, and they just lost them.

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Speaker 3: I feel like they're gonna come out with an edge

461
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Speaker 3: and they're gonna come and Katie is a little more

462
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Speaker 3: locked in, So.

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Speaker 2: Give me more for kat as well. Danny Abdia more more, more,

464
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Speaker 2: twenty more or less than twenty six and a half points?

465
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Speaker 2: What come on?

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Speaker 4: What he has to turn into a pumpkin at some point,

467
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Speaker 4: I'm going less. I'm going least.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm mind you dropped forty one in the game.

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Speaker 4: I know you got this. He got the slipper rolls

470
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Speaker 4: this year, twenty a half year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going more. And they've been chopping down like

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Speaker 3: the big uh killers, the big teams like Portland's been not.

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Speaker 3: They beat okay, see, they beat Denver, they beat Houston,

474
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Speaker 3: they beat spurs. They beat like they've chopped out young talent.

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Speaker 1: Shaden sharp. I like this one twenty one and a

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Speaker 1: half points more or less.

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Speaker 3: Guys, I'm gonna go less. He's good, but I'm gonna

478
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Speaker 3: go less.

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00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 4: Well, if if Danny is giving me less, then I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna go more on shade and sharp.

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Speaker 1: Give me less on the shade and sharp twenty one

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Speaker 1: and a half points a men, Thompson more or less

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Speaker 1: than nineteen and a half.

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Speaker 4: I gotta go less for less less for me.

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Speaker 1: Let's do one more. Man Barry Smith more or less

486
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Speaker 1: than fourteen and a half.

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Speaker 3: He's so tough to I'm gonna go more. He's very

488
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Speaker 3: up and down, but I'm gonna go more. I think

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Speaker 3: he's have a decent night. I'm gonna say about.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go more.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go more as well.

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Speaker 3: Fuck it.

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Speaker 1: That was our Picks of the Night, presented by Prize Picks.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get into some power moves presented by Morgan

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Speaker 1: and Morgan. The good folks over at Morgan and Morgan.

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Speaker 1: If you get injured somehow and you need a lawyer, call.

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Speaker 2: Up Morgan and Morgan today.

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Speaker 1: Like we mentioned, the Lakers continue to struggle against the

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Speaker 1: better teams in the league, and JJ continues to struggle

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Speaker 1: to maintain some semblance of order on the team. Most recently,

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Speaker 1: he said that he is the catcher and Lebron is

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Speaker 1: the picture.

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Speaker 3: I know, if you guys, a big pace sounds crazy.

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00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, pitching and catching is wild. It can't be surprised for.

505
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Speaker 2: JJ said. He calls the pitches, and you know, if

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Speaker 2: you're watching the pitch on.

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Speaker 3: The mon and he's doing the yea, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Lebron has a choice to either fire the pitch that's

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Speaker 1: called or shake it off. And a lot of times,

510
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Speaker 1: he said, Lebron just tells him the f off and

511
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Speaker 1: makes a power move and calls his own pitches.

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Speaker 4: Similar to the catcher can say one thing and he

513
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Speaker 4: can say no, exactly.

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Speaker 3: A little different in basketball, it shouldn't happen more times

515
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Speaker 3: than none. Follow coach play until you see somebody hot

516
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Speaker 3: and it's like Rondo's like, no, no, no, we're going

517
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Speaker 3: to peep. We did sometimes a lot.

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Speaker 4: Well, doctor got trustworthy guys who are established. Doc let

519
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Speaker 4: don't do a ship doct Sobron. I guess if he's

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Speaker 4: the point guard, if he let gonna let Bron but

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Speaker 4: I feel.

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Speaker 2: Like Lucas shouldn't be doing it.

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Speaker 4: Lucas.

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Speaker 3: Lucas also like, I feel like Luca is not gonna

525
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Speaker 3: non continuity for other guys, so like you have to

526
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Speaker 3: throw him some place what I'm saying, So I get it.

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Speaker 3: At this point, I think I think JJ is trolling us.

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Speaker 3: Bro oh yeah, chef controlling with the I don't know

529
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Speaker 3: what else to do. I think it's the holidays. I

530
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Speaker 3: think they're not listening to me. We have uncomfortable you know,

531
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Speaker 3: film sessions with uncomfortable practices, and you see them. Just

532
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 3: I think he's just like fucking with the media right now.

533
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Speaker 3: So I think that's where he's at right now.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy that JJ has gotten to this point with

535
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Speaker 1: the media guys. Because of his tenure Paul, it felt

536
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: like he was living or dying with every single result.

537
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Speaker 2: And it's like, bro, there's eighty two games.

538
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:27,760
Speaker 1: Like Chill Out Saving and now he's got some levity

539
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: some Yeah, he's about to He's about to look like

540
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: Obama after age just two seasons with the Lakers. So yeah,

541
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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's hilarious that JJ. Again,

542
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Speaker 1: it's good that they've gotten to this point. And Paul

543
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Speaker 1: you mentioned in Boston. This is something that was normal

544
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Speaker 1: for you guys, for either you or KG or even

545
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Speaker 1: Rondo to go away from something.

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Speaker 4: Doc Head, Oh yeah, when you got the trust. I mean,

547
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Speaker 4: this is Lebron freaking James, Like you don't trust his instinct,

548
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 4: like it's one of the most He's the arguably the

549
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 4: great player players, the highest IQ ever, Like if he

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Speaker 4: says no, then you listen.

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Speaker 2: It's really that simple.

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Speaker 1: Did you was that your experience playing with Bron that

553
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Speaker 1: he would go off script.

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Speaker 3: Often again, certain point guard, certain players, coaches said we

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Speaker 3: had also we had Rondo, we had a guy now

556
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Speaker 3: Alex Cruso is the point guard, you know what I'm saying,

557
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: or if every Bradley is the point guard. He would

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Speaker 3: tell him like yo, give him a play. A lot

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Speaker 3: of times if Rondo had something, let him trust you

560
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I Bron had something, but you know,

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Speaker 3: Bron Frank called something Bron. But in the flow of

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Speaker 3: the game, we would have our secondary play the pick

563
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Speaker 3: and roll, we'd get into our actions, but Bron respected it.

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Speaker 3: He would you know, call take the place call. But again,

565
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 3: anytime any situation with those type of even with Tony Pop.

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Speaker 3: You know, Pop calls play sometimes, but a lot of

567
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Speaker 3: times with Tony, Tony was calling loop wedge whatever. I'm saying,

568
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Speaker 3: So you trust your your Hall of Fame point guard

569
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Speaker 3: do what they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the best teams aren't rigid.

571
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Speaker 3: I think the best.

572
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: Teams are flexible.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

574
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 2: Sure, the best teams will allow players to see.

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Speaker 3: Things, unless you got a young point guard that you're

576
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Speaker 3: trying to groom into that I'm saying, I seen Doc

577
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 3: had to do it more with Tyres. We had Tyres

578
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: Maxie and Philly was like, all right, he had but

579
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: then he was like you gotta he like he threw

580
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 3: him in the fire, like you gotta figure out, Robot.

581
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 3: I'm saying, you gotta. You gotta figure out how to

582
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,320
Speaker 3: be a point guard to lead this team even as

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Speaker 3: a rookie.

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Speaker 4: Or the young point guards aren't calling audibles they don't

585
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Speaker 4: have right.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, again, I'm I think this is a good

587
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Speaker 1: sign if you're a Laker fan that we've gotten to

588
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: this point with JJ where he can be a little

589
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Speaker 1: more lighthearted about the nature of his relationship with the

590
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Speaker 1: best players on the team. So this is good Again,

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Speaker 1: if you're ever injured and have a problem, make that

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Speaker 1: power move and hire Morgan and Morgan to fight your fight.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into our next joint.

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Speaker 1: Ant Man hits another career milestone. He scored twenty five

595
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Speaker 1: points in the Wolves one thirty one to one twenty

596
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Speaker 1: two win versus the Cavs on Thursday Night to become

597
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Speaker 1: the third fastest player to ten thousand points. He's twenty

598
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Speaker 1: four years old, behind only Lebron James at twenty three

599
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Speaker 1: and Kevin Garnett excuse me, Kevin Durant at twenty four

600
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Speaker 1: as well a little bit earlier in his twenty.

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Speaker 3: Four He's on a good pace.

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Speaker 1: That's just some pretty incredible company. What do you think

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00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: this says about ant Paul?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he has as also a great start. It shows

605
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Speaker 4: that you know, he's picked up on things fast, that

606
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: he's adapted to the NBA game especially, but we saw this,

607
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: this was kind of like his trajectory coming in as

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Speaker 4: a top pick to be one of the best scores

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Speaker 4: in the league. And also when we ain't taken to

610
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Speaker 4: the count is three point there's made.

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Speaker 2: He's he's flying up the charts on.

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Speaker 4: That also, So if he can stay healthy, you know

613
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 4: throughout his career, man, we're gonna be talking about him

614
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 4: a lot, passing up a lot of guys in the

615
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Speaker 4: history of the game.

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Speaker 3: Same. I mean, he's in good company, bro. I just

617
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: I would like to see him have more help there

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Speaker 3: because they've got to Western conmon Finals. He's achieved quite

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Speaker 3: a bit in his young career. Going to Western Conras

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Speaker 3: finals twice is a good achievement and a lot of

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Speaker 3: accomplishments for his twenty four year old I still don't

622
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Speaker 3: think they have enough, like he's gonna they have to

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Speaker 3: figure out something to make the game easier for him,

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Speaker 3: and also he can find ways, Like they said, he'd

625
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Speaker 3: been working on some things to like, you know, avoid

626
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Speaker 3: double teams and make the game easier for himself. I

627
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 3: still think there's things he could be more efficient with

628
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 3: in the IQ and learning the game. But he's still

629
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: so young. Frontal lobe not even developed yet. What I'm saying,

630
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 3: like your front love's not developed to your twenty five

631
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Speaker 3: So getting in the post doing little Kobe MJ work,

632
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, where it's harder double team

633
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Speaker 3: or that high post or Malone area where you can

634
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 3: work in a t differently, but again he still needs help.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for me with aunt.

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Speaker 1: You know, he came in with a reputation of being

637
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Speaker 1: like super talented.

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Speaker 2: His one year at Georgia. I think the one knock on.

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Speaker 1: Him was like, you know, shot selection sort of spaced

640
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: out during games, wasn't always super focused all of that.

641
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Speaker 1: But everybody kind of agreed on his talent. But it

642
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: was like pretty early on that the guy plays hard

643
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: as hell to go along with his talent, super coachable,

644
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 1: like takes coaching obviously kids about his teammates. You could

645
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Speaker 1: tell from the way that he interacts with everybody on

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Speaker 1: the team, whether that be from Carl Towns before, who

647
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: was known as like a sort of mercurial god of

648
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Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert to everybody, and so for him to and

649
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: then him taking the steps to show improvement every year,

650
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: making his three point shot one of the most lethal

651
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: weapons in the game. Getting better at I thought early

652
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Speaker 1: on he would get to the basket, but he would

653
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: be so off balanced that it was easy to knock

654
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Speaker 1: him off his course, and he wasn't that good at finishing.

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Speaker 1: He's gotten even better at that. I think that's the

656
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: next step for his game. Too, is getting to the

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Speaker 1: line more and just being even better and more ruthless

658
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: when he gets downhill and scoring towards the cub. I

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Speaker 1: just he's one of my favorite players, like top three

660
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: favorite players to watch. If I'm going through lead pass,

661
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: Minnesota's on, like, I'm automatically clicking to watch this guy.

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00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: I think this guy's limit for him.

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Speaker 1: And in terms of what they should be doing at

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Speaker 1: the deadline, yeah, I think they.

665
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: Need more shooting.

666
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: They can use more shooting, and of course they can

667
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: use more point guard help.

668
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean they can develop it. So they gotta

669
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 3: develop Dillingham turn Shanna Jr. But they need to find

670
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: one other piece, like in free agency somewhere.

671
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we'll see.

672
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 4: That's fast.

673
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 3: Three years there we go.

674
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's get to the standing on business segment,

675
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: because today we got a guy who just refuses to

676
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: stand on business.

677
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: He refuses to be ten toes down.

678
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 4: Damn.

679
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: He refuses none other than Yannis Onto Takoumpo and the

680
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: trade talk. So Yanni says he has no plans to

681
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: pull a trade young and request the trade. He says, quote,

682
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: my plan is to be here for the rest of

683
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: my career. If they don't want me, I'm not the

684
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,480
Speaker 1: one in charge. I'm an employee.

685
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: I want to bring up.

686
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: I want to bring up specifically the quote that he

687
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: gave to sam Amy.

688
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 2: Let me let me, let me uh read this for

689
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 2: you guys.

690
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: This is Yannis in reference to him demanding a trade quote,

691
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do the Greek accident. There will never

692
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: be a chance and there will never be a moment

693
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: that I will come out and say, quote, I want

694
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: a trade, said jan to Takoupo, who can opt out

695
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: of his contract. In the summer of twenty twenty seven,

696
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: he told the Athletic that's not.

697
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: In my nature. Okay, end quote Danny, what do you?

698
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 4: What?

699
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: Do you what? What are we doing?

700
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 3: I believe that it's not in his nature to do

701
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 3: it that way, But I don't believe he won't request this.

702
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: Like we've seen, We've seen throughout the last couple of

703
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 3: years of trade roomors of him wanning to go to

704
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: New York, his family, going back to Greece, you know,

705
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 3: him having a place, and like there's been a lot

706
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: of rumblings where they smoke this fire. I'm saying, like

707
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: anybody's just pulling this shit out of thin air, though

708
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think he just wants to kind

709
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 3: of die down the rumors. I guess maybe the Knicks

710
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: were in a rush to get him, so he's like,

711
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: you know, we'll just wait till the summertime. I think

712
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: he wants to play this season out and go about

713
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: it that way. But I don't. I just don't see

714
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 3: this aging very well.

715
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: Paul, Like you played with Ticket, who was in a

716
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: like even worse situation than Giannice because he didn't even

717
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: want a championship there, but he were made crazy loyal

718
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: for what I would argue was way longer than he

719
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: should have, way longer than Minnesota deserve.

720
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 2: But finally even he said, guys, get me the fuck

721
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: out of here. I want to trade. I want to

722
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: get out of here. I want to win a championship somewhere.

723
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 2: What do you think about how Giannis is handling this.

724
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,439
Speaker 4: I think Gianni's is afraid of what people might think.

725
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 4: Like that's how it comes off, like, yeah, you want

726
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 4: a championship there, so you've done your duty there.

727
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: He cares more about the Milwaukee fans thing, Like the

728
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: Milwaukee fan base, he's scared of losing that fan base.

729
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 3: I feel.

730
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: I see that with a lot of players in the

731
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 4: league now that they're they all want to be liked

732
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 4: by everyone. Sometimes you have to be like, man, this

733
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: is it. They take a stance because it's your career,

734
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 4: it's your life, and if you're not happy, then hey,

735
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 4: come out and say it, like, there's nothing wrong with

736
00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 4: not being happy. You delivered. People understand you delivered more

737
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 4: than enough. You brought them what two m vps and

738
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 4: a banner, Like I mean, I'm sure people will always

739
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 4: love you. You are gonna have a statue there where

740
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 4: if you demand trade today, you're gonna come back there

741
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 4: years from now and they're gonna give you a standing

742
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: ov a and then you're gonna pull up that jersey

743
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 4: and you're gonna walk outside that building and it's gonna

744
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: be a statue of you in there no matter how

745
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 4: this ends. Yeah, I don't care.

746
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think there is. There's the Jimmy Butler

747
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: of James Harden approaches.

748
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 4: It's not totally different. That's that was a totally different

749
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 4: person that.

750
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: On the extreme, like Giannis is on one end where

751
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: he's like you know, tiptoe and tap dancing around it,

752
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: where Jimmy and James did something like very aggressive.

753
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: James hard is all time in that man, He's like, man,

754
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 4: I ain't feeling this pretty much pretty.

755
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: Much like those like those are the two poles. I

756
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: don't know that you need to necessarily go to that extreme.

757
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 3: You can go The Dame Little was very.

758
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: Was a good one.

759
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

760
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: I think the threatening of like yo, I could have

761
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: a tiki tag injury and just shut this ship down. Yeah,

762
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of one of the cleanest ways

763
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: to do it.

764
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 3: He can do in the Dame fashion. Bro, he don't

765
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 3: have to tip you tall around it, Like if you're

766
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 3: not happy, like you said, just say you're not happy.

767
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 3: People understand and respect it. They know you want to win.

768
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 3: And right now Milwaukee's roster the way it's set up,

769
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 3: you're not in position to win or be in contention

770
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 3: until you make some major moves.

771
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: By the way, how I noticed his cap In that

772
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: same interview with Sam Amy, my guy Sam Amic of

773
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: The Athletic, he said, listen, my wife has loved me

774
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: from the day that we got together, but she could

775
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: wake up tomorrow and not be in love with me.

776
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: So basically, lets him say I could wake up.

777
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: Tomorrow and be like it could be different.

778
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: So what are we doing here?

779
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: Like, I just don't like the idea that this all

780
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: of this chatter around Giannis is some kind of he's

781
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 1: a victim of circumstance, as if he doesn't play a

782
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: role in his own life and career.

783
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: That god, this is I'm just an employee.

784
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 4: I'm just an employee.

785
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: Like you're Yannis out to the Kunfo bro.

786
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 4: He doesn't have a quite understanding of how to go

787
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 4: about it. And you know, like a guy, like I said,

788
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 4: he wants to be liked. He doesn't want to rub

789
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 4: people the wrong way. He has a brand, he has

790
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 4: a certain type of image, and he doesn't want to

791
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 4: like cross the line or anything. And he doesn't have an.

792
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: Understanding window dunk at the end of the game.

793
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 5: A lot.

794
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 4: He's not from here.

795
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: Kevin demanded a trade, like we're talking about some of

796
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: the best players. Lou Al Sinder Kareima Duchabal from the

797
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: Bucks demanded a trade like this is what the best

798
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: players do when the situation is no longer suits the

799
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 1: lebron it's no longer serving them, they get the hell

800
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: out of dodge. They create their own weather and.

801
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 3: So Wade, right, Wade, that's for trade.

802
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 2: D Wade actually contract trade.

803
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 3: Chicago.

804
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis got out of New Orleans. Like people are

805
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 1: forcing their way out of town or just.

806
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 4: Join Uh what does it clutch? Go through, go through

807
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 4: rich fallout.

808
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 2: And maybe it's the agent. Might Sita ain't hardcore enough.

809
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: In some other trade news, allegedly the Bulls have shown

810
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: interests in Zion Williamson. I think I don't I see

811
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 1: I've recently seen another Zion.

812
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: I mean, if they don't have to give up much,

813
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: I'm with it.

814
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: Video they make me Instagram checks.

815
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: Let's just say he doesn't have a future.

816
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: I don't get scout in town. I don't know. There's

817
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 3: a horrible jam. Here's a horrible gam in the field

818
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 3: out there. Sam pressed in the game, very the draft picks.

819
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 3: He's gotten very bad draft picks. But I just don't

820
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: understand it and go why they do that? Like why

821
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 3: would your video like you have because you have no

822
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: you think that more people and you know you're not.

823
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 2: You don't understand the long game for sure.

824
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: But for them, it's like put it out there so

825
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 3: other people can see who I am, and they are

826
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: gonna want me to nobody's coming for you.

827
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: That's crazy, nobody with the way.

828
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 3: Nobody's coming for you. The reason why you had six

829
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: hundred bucks in your account, like like to me on

830
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: triple Like, nobody's coming to me.

831
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: That's crazy that you would go public with that.

832
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: And this is your profession, Like I mean, even in

833
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: that profession, I think there's a level of decorum.

834
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: That's associated with it, like that you would do that.

835
00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 2: But as Zion, it's like you just be in the

836
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: scrap heap, you know.

837
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: You know what, He's a wild boy that.

838
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: The Veterans Minimum went every year they got the VETMN

839
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: or they got the waiver wire guys. Zion is one

840
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: of those teams that just be dying for the waiver

841
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: wire guys.

842
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: Back to basketball Zion, if they can get him, if

843
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: they're dark conversation, if they can get him for cheap.

844
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: But I have to give up much, I'm for it.

845
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 3: I think this is a solid pick up for them.

846
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I think New Orleans needs to cut bait Man.

847
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: So like, how do you think that they sign and

848
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: trade like he because his contract is not fully guaranteed.

849
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 2: It's not.

850
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: But I think a team that trades, any team that

851
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: trades for him. Is not going to just let his

852
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 1: contract lapse this July. I think it's fully guaranteed until

853
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: if I mean it's non guaranteed until a certain date

854
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: in July this year.

855
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: So they pick up the they don't give him extension,

856
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 3: they just pick up you just you just straight.

857
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: Up don't wave him and his deal becomes guaranteed after

858
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: that date in July. And if not, then he becomes

859
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: a free agent unrestricted, and he could go out and

860
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: call his shot, right And so I don't think a

861
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: team like the Bulls that shows interest in him will

862
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 1: my thirty five mil next year.

863
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 4: It's a good move for everybody, like Zion needs to

864
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 4: get out. He needs It's like a few people out

865
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 4: that needs to get out, like Ja Morani's out of Memphis.

866
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 4: He needs out of it. I think because like the

867
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 4: Chicago is teetering on like a player away type of

868
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 4: like being a perennial playoff threat every year. Because right

869
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: now they're playing team.

870
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 3: They said, but they're healthy, they look like they're could

871
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 3: be a good shot. They could be like the next

872
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: Indiana Pacers of the East. They get some right pieces.

873
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,359
Speaker 4: But if I'm Chicago, I make a move like this,

874
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: especially with the East. If I'm anybody in the East,

875
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 4: I'm making some moves because I think this is the

876
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 4: most wide open the East is gonna be until next

877
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 4: year till Celtics get healthy.

878
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: I think this is definitely a talent play.

879
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: The Bulls just then not bad enough to like sort

880
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: of tank and try the harder to get into the

881
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: top four or three of the lottery. They're obviously not

882
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: good enough to contend with the best teams in the East,

883
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: and so like for what they're doing, I think a

884
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: talent played for Zion that potentially he you know, he

885
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: puts on the Chicago Bulls jersey and taps into the

886
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 1: spirit of Michael Jordan, becomes a hard worker and takes

887
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: his job.

888
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 3: More healthier, maybe hopefully healthier in the city of Chicago,

889
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 3: maybe a little bit healthy. I don't know, he's not

890
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 3: in Chicago. S Guinny Zion right now. You know, it's

891
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 3: colder out there outside in the house as in the house.

892
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: If that wins, I would like to see Zion in

893
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 1: a new scenery for sure.

894
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely would. He's too talented. I mean, I think

895
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:50,280
Speaker 4: if he's sometimes change the scenery and being happy change

896
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 4: his things.

897
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, if him might give him

898
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 3: more happiness. Oh so we'll see.

899
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: So let's get into the Charlotte Hornet, who been friskier

900
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: then I thought they would be this season of late,

901
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 1: and in their last game they benched LaMelo ball.

902
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: There's no real reporting out there.

903
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: I don't think we got the postgame comments yet coming

904
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: out of it. Some sure reporters that are at the

905
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: game asks LaMelo about this. But they brought him in

906
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: off the bench. He ends up dropping thirty three points,

907
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: eight assists. Statement had like a plus eighteen was their best.

908
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 3: Player a statement for that game.

909
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: The Paces end up winning by two Paces happening. It's

910
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: just a horrible season. Nice to see them get a

911
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: win with Carlisle's nine hundred.

912
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: First win in a month. He's been waiting for that,

913
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 3: that thousand win, second forever thousands.

914
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: I don't know what, like what's going on with LaMelo

915
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: and Charlotte here.

916
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I think they might be just establishing a

917
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 3: pecking order. He also had injuries. If they started put

918
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 3: him on mint restriction because of his ankles, sure, which

919
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: is weird. Maybe they're trying to get him to play

920
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: more serious basketball or light a fire under them. Have

921
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: thirty three points eight assis on the bench. Maybe that's

922
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 3: a fire knee, but it's Brandon Miller and Kon Kannupple

923
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 3: team right now. Looks like you know what I'm saying,

924
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 3: and as even Miles Bridges, you know what I'm saying,

925
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: Like he's been there for some time now. He is

926
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 3: a very big piece in factor of what they're doing.

927
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 3: LaMelo is just not available enough to be like to

928
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: make it like, oh we can depend on night and

929
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,560
Speaker 3: night outs like this is your team. So it seems

930
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 3: like they're kind of moving moving on from it, but

931
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 3: they're just moving him down a step or two.

932
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: So that's gotta be awkward though, right, Like for somebody

933
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: who's been considered for years to be the face of

934
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: your franchise, one of the up and coming stars of

935
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: the league to just he's getting demoted, Like.

936
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if he's traded this year. Yeah,

937
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 4: they talked about you go to this length like don't

938
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 4: try don't put me off the bench. I've been the franchise.

939
00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 4: I went from franchise playing to off the bench, Like,

940
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 4: don't do that. I'm furious if I come into the

941
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 4: locker room and it's like, Hey, so we're bringing off

942
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 4: the bitch today, Paul, I'm averaging thirty. And what I'm like,

943
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 4: what like we're losing? Like we're losing. I'm averaging thirty.

944
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 4: Now I gotta come up the bitch. Okay, let's se

945
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 4: how that works. Now, I come off the bitch. I

946
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 4: got thirty and we still lose to it to one

947
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 4: in the month. You know what, I might not come

948
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 4: to practice tomorrow.

949
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: I mean, what kind of team though, if they do

950
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: move on from him, Because it seems like you guys

951
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: feel like the franchises.

952
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 3: Better get Piece and Trey. I'll tell you that you better.

953
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: Get definitely got a better He's got more value to

954
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: the teams out there.

955
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: From what I've been able to read and.

956
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: People have talked to, He's definitely seen as a more

957
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,280
Speaker 1: valuable asset. I hate that we call players assets, but whatever,

958
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: that's what. That's just the term that we have for it.

959
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: I don't know this, it's it's definitely more. I think

960
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: I think people would be willing to part with the

961
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: first round or to not like some high quality one.

962
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 2: I think people would be willing to.

963
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 4: Part with it.

964
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: I just don't know.

965
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: The team that's looking for a point guard right now,

966
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 1: the Pacers.

967
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: The Pacers have a point guard man.

968
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not coming back this.

969
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 3: Year, Boston. That it depends on what you know. If

970
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 3: it's like he's got a big contract, so he can't

971
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 3: be like he's I think he'd be a great off

972
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: the bench point like backup point but he shouldn't be

973
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: a backup. He makes so much money to be.

974
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: It's not a mean back up.

975
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 3: Looking across the league, he.

976
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 2: Started on lamellow ball statement.

977
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 3: On what other point guards he's starting over?

978
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 2: What other point guard?

979
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 3: Like across the league, there's a lot of really good

980
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 3: point guards out there that maybe in Sacramento.

981
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but star is Sack Minnesota.

982
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: You're looking at.

983
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 2: Schoo Henderson is like not a guy.

984
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: But is Denny considered the point guard? Now? Who's the

985
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 3: point guard?

986
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 5: Now?

987
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 3: Denny's like their wing player, like he's doing everything for them,

988
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 3: you know.

989
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 4: What I mean.

990
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: But he's not. But he's not. That's not his position.

991
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 4: He could be.

992
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 3: He could be a point guard there.

993
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 2: I guess I would say Houston, he needs a point guard.

994
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 4: That's too much. That's too much you have to get

995
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 4: he makes, you know, and you.

996
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 3: Have to get a lot of watch that you have

997
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: to give up a lot of piece he makes. He's

998
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 3: tied for six Clippers.

999
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,720
Speaker 2: The Clippers always looking for talent upgrade.

1000
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 4: They need a younger talent.

1001
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a movie. When James has gone like point

1002
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 3: guard right now.

1003
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 2: They don't really have draft capital to offer.

1004
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 3: He probably a backup.

1005
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 2: Love this team. I'll be into it watching.

1006
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: You can play with James, you could, you could, you could,

1007
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 3: but again he needs He's playing a little more off

1008
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 3: the ball now in Charlotte, but he's the guys most

1009
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 3: effective when he has a ball in his hands. And

1010
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 3: I think that's why in the second unit, off the

1011
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 3: bench like he had the ball in his hands the

1012
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:54,359
Speaker 3: whole game in the second unit.

1013
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: So can we see up the video of him replying

1014
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: to being taken off the bench.

1015
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 6: Talk about some people say when you're on a minute restriction,

1016
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 6: it's hard to find your rhythm. I'm just curious with

1017
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 6: your administ restriction right now, how do you feel you've

1018
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 6: been able to find your rhythm when you're coming in

1019
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 6: and staying on the bike, trying to stay warning for

1020
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 6: these games.

1021
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, pretty much what you just said just trying to

1022
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 7: find my way, you know, had the legs ready and

1023
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 7: stuff like.

1024
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 8: That coach mentioned pre game. Actually, just now about you

1025
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 8: being open minded about off the bench. I mean, I'm

1026
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 8: sure you want to start, but he's messing about your

1027
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 8: leadership and kind of helping out the team. So what

1028
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 8: about that, man, and trying to help the team out

1029
00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 8: whatever way you came off the bench if possible.

1030
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much, just so like the minus finished the

1031
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 5: back end and finish.

1032
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 3: The game, stuff like that, or they're doing a wenby.

1033
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 5: Being on the back end instead of front.

1034
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 8: Obviously it's tough for you because I'm sure that any

1035
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 8: want to start, But can you explain just the again,

1036
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,919
Speaker 8: trying to do better I guess put a better team.

1037
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 5: Just trying to do this for right now for everybody. Yeah,

1038
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 5: just pretty much being open minded. That's it. You know,

1039
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 5: y'all want to win, So just trying to do the

1040
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 5: best solution.

1041
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 8: The first time you came off the bench since your

1042
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 8: rookie year, was there anything different you had to do

1043
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 8: in terms of routine to kind of make sure you're

1044
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 8: ready to go.

1045
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 5: I actually kept it the same.

1046
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 7: Just's all basketball, show up, not show up pretty much,

1047
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:11,760
Speaker 7: just whenever you in between them lines.

1048
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 5: I feel like it's all the same.

1049
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 6: The last two games, you guys have struggled to close

1050
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 6: out close ones. What would you how would you diagnose

1051
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 6: y'all struggles at the end of the game last night

1052
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 6: and tonight.

1053
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 5: Well, a little bit of that was the time.

1054
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 7: So, like I said, it didn't start today, so could

1055
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 7: finish the back end? And should I take full responsibility

1056
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 7: for today? I think I have a motherfuck that last

1057
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 7: lob could have dribbled that out, and then it's some

1058
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 7: silly possession before that, even the last past I should

1059
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 7: have shot that instead of putting Bull in that position.

1060
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 3: It feels like a lot of you guys are willing

1061
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: to sacrifice to the betterment of the team contexts.

1062
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 5: Then it's the game, Then they left. He's a first win,

1063
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 5: to celebrate your game, league game leading shot. At the

1064
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 5: end of the game, you're taking a role.

1065
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 6: Come up to the bench, Shine, You just talk about

1066
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 6: the sacrifice everyone is making put a betterment of the team.

1067
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, pretty much what you said, just for their team together.

1068
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 3: We don't want to win, like you said, Yeah, he

1069
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 3: seems interested.

1070
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 4: There's too many questions for me. I'm done with I

1071
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 4: get minus is three or four questions though I can't

1072
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 4: do that. My tension span gone.

1073
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: I think that's good enough. It seems like he's saying

1074
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 2: the right stuff.

1075
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 3: He didn't seem he seems very disinterested in the conversation

1076
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 3: and the interview. H right for somebody. Again, I didn't

1077
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 3: know this was a minute restriction move. It seems like

1078
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 3: they're trying to do a Wemby situation.

1079
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 2: I think he played in the thirties.

1080
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 3: Though, Yeah, so he's just he wants to finish thirty

1081
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 3: on the dot. Okay, they're trying to say his minutes

1082
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 3: on the back like end so he doesn't have to

1083
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 3: sit at the end of the game so they can

1084
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 3: get selves a chance to win. So they're trying to

1085
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 3: do a Wemby situation. Un For they're not as good

1086
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 3: as they're not the Spurs. They don't have the group

1087
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 3: and the starting lineup to you know what I'm saying,

1088
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: Like he has to start the game and finish the

1089
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 3: game for them to have a chance of winning. But

1090
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 3: I mean it's just trying to again, I mean, he

1091
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: said not many superstars come off the bench, but some

1092
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 3: of them are trying to show un selfishness and you know.

1093
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 3: I think that's what he's trying to do.

1094
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,359
Speaker 4: If we wake, I'm not coming off the bench. Yeah,

1095
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 4: and we're winning games, like come on, dude, this is

1096
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 4: this is come.

1097
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: On yeah it look again. He said he's keeping an

1098
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: open mind about the approach. It's hard to get a

1099
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: read on what's happening in Charlotte because it's like it's

1100
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 1: felt like ten years of a rebuild there.

1101
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's hard to get to read it. Like

1102
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 2: where they're at a decade decade, It is hard to peg,

1103
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 2: like what are they?

1104
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 3: We don't know what the identity is.

1105
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 2: We don't know.

1106
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 3: It's they gotta figure out got a forgott direction that

1107
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 3: they're going in something. They gotta do something.

1108
00:51:58,640 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 2: It's a hard team to peg.

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00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 4: Overall m.

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00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 2: Easy.

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00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: They're an easy team to pay.

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00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: The show.

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00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 3: Man.

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00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for watching our show.

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00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: If you're listening to this on a podcast, make sure

1116
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: you give us a rating, you leave us a review.

1117
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 2: We really appreciate that. Share this show with your friends.

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00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: If you're watching this on YouTube, like the video, subscribe

1119
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: to the channel and make sure to hit the notification bell.

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00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: We'll see you guys next time. Peace out, y'all.

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Speaker 4: Peace This has been a playmaker production.