WEBVTT - Reggie Jackson, Andre Drummond, and Their Unbreakable Bond 0:00:49.259 --> 0:00:51.539 I'm Tari's Mike Si and you're listening to the seventy 0:00:51.579 --> 0:00:53.419 six Ers Insider's podcast. 0:00:53.699 --> 0:00:56.619 This podcast is part of the seventy six Ers podcast network, 0:00:56.659 --> 0:00:58.459 presented by Stern and Cohen Law. 0:00:58.299 --> 0:01:01.299 Search seventy six Ers Insiders wherever you get your podcasts. 0:01:01.659 --> 0:01:04.419 Suffering an injury at work can cause physical pain, but 0:01:04.499 --> 0:01:07.659 also great uncertainty about your rights. You need to retain 0:01:07.699 --> 0:01:10.419 a worker's compensation law firm that is a winner like 0:01:10.499 --> 0:01:13.379 our sixers, a firm that gets some of the best settlements, 0:01:13.459 --> 0:01:15.539 but is also willing to go toe to toe with 0:01:15.659 --> 0:01:19.379 the insurance company. No settling on the cheap. 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And yes, lesson might 0:02:02.299 --> 0:02:03.219 touch him if they want to. 0:02:03.619 --> 0:02:07.539 It's Andre Drummer if you don't know already, But let's 0:02:07.659 --> 0:02:11.979 let's start with that. Obviously, Reggie, your shared history in 0:02:12.099 --> 0:02:15.099 LA with Paul George as well, but Detroit time with 0:02:15.099 --> 0:02:18.379 with Andre Drummon. So how much are you looking forward 0:02:18.499 --> 0:02:21.739 to being reunited with both of your previous teammates here 0:02:21.739 --> 0:02:22.459 in Philadelphia? 0:02:22.899 --> 0:02:26.459 Man, I was excited, uh going through process when I 0:02:26.499 --> 0:02:28.579 got the call to possibly come to Philly understanding that 0:02:29.059 --> 0:02:32.059 talk to Paul, knowing that he was here. But shoot, 0:02:32.179 --> 0:02:38.819 dre I was excited. He shoot, he texted me early 0:02:38.859 --> 0:02:42.539 once he signed. Nothing was even in the fold for 0:02:42.659 --> 0:02:44.579 me moving or what was going to be understood, But 0:02:44.979 --> 0:02:47.299 he kind of texted me. I refused to text back 0:02:47.339 --> 0:02:48.979 in a sense, I'm like, already know what he's gonna 0:02:49.379 --> 0:02:51.019 I know what he's in a text about. But he 0:02:51.099 --> 0:02:52.539 was the first person I hit up as soon as 0:02:52.539 --> 0:02:52.979 I saw ed. 0:02:53.459 --> 0:02:55.299 Yeah, at what point did you decide to text back? 0:02:55.299 --> 0:02:56.979 And how did you feel when he touched it back? 0:02:57.019 --> 0:02:58.819 When I saw when I saw well, just think I said, 0:02:58.819 --> 0:03:00.659 you're bro with the f man. I think text you 0:03:00.659 --> 0:03:01.939 for like two weeks. It's wrong with you? 0:03:02.339 --> 0:03:04.379 He texted me. He texted quite a bit. I was 0:03:04.419 --> 0:03:08.379 on vacation. I tried to call him connection and go through. Then. 0:03:08.459 --> 0:03:08.579 Uh. 0:03:09.299 --> 0:03:11.459 We definitely made sure to touch base once I signed, 0:03:11.459 --> 0:03:14.699 So it was like, obviously we broke the news early, 0:03:14.739 --> 0:03:17.099 and then I think my first call was the DRE 0:03:17.299 --> 0:03:19.699 So I was like, yeah, we're back together. We got 0:03:19.739 --> 0:03:21.459 to figure out how to do what we can to 0:03:21.499 --> 0:03:23.579 help the team, but it's just gonna be good to 0:03:23.619 --> 0:03:27.379 be around each other again. Then, especially uh, PG was definitely, 0:03:27.379 --> 0:03:29.819 you know up there in the next call, excited to 0:03:29.819 --> 0:03:32.459 be back together. He was, He's talking to me about 0:03:32.499 --> 0:03:35.099 trying to get me over here, lure me in and shoot. 0:03:35.139 --> 0:03:36.299 He did it once, so I figured we could do 0:03:36.339 --> 0:03:36.939 it again twice. 0:03:37.139 --> 0:03:38.859 You're already a pro with the Segways. But I was 0:03:38.899 --> 0:03:41.139 going to ask you next about Paul George. You shared 0:03:41.139 --> 0:03:43.899 that you guys were actually roommates for a series of summers. 0:03:43.939 --> 0:03:46.379 Can you take us back and explain what the dynamic 0:03:46.379 --> 0:03:47.299 of your relationship is. 0:03:48.579 --> 0:03:52.859 That that's been another brother to me. So having Andre 0:03:52.979 --> 0:03:56.739 having Pg's going to be amazing for me, But honestly, 0:03:56.739 --> 0:03:58.419 it was with the same agency I came in during 0:03:58.459 --> 0:04:02.499 the lockout year in twenty eleven. Guys started to fall 0:04:02.539 --> 0:04:04.059 out later when we kind of figured out there might 0:04:04.059 --> 0:04:06.419 be a lockout, we weren't sure what was gonna happen. 0:04:06.979 --> 0:04:09.739 So we got kind of close, just more so being 0:04:09.779 --> 0:04:12.419 part of the same agency working out as guys kept 0:04:12.419 --> 0:04:16.299 falling off, continue to work out, continue just to hang out. 0:04:16.339 --> 0:04:18.939 And I'm just thankful for how great he is. He 0:04:19.019 --> 0:04:20.819 kind of took me under his wing. I couldn't get 0:04:20.859 --> 0:04:23.099 back home at the time, taking a loan out, not 0:04:23.139 --> 0:04:26.699 sure where money's gonna come from, just waiting for hopefully 0:04:26.779 --> 0:04:29.819 first NBA check. And then he invited me over for 0:04:29.899 --> 0:04:32.859 Thanksgiving out in the Boonie so to see his family, 0:04:32.899 --> 0:04:35.179 and his family's so welcoming. It was amazing to be together. 0:04:35.539 --> 0:04:36.859 And then I think we just hit it off from there. 0:04:36.899 --> 0:04:38.939 So just cheering for him, rooting them on. While he 0:04:38.979 --> 0:04:42.259 was in Indiana the next summer, I loved where he was staying, 0:04:42.339 --> 0:04:44.779 so I really was just reaching out to him to 0:04:44.779 --> 0:04:45.139 try to. 0:04:45.099 --> 0:04:46.459 He said, hey, is it the same place? 0:04:46.659 --> 0:04:48.859 Well, no, for me, I was gonna ask him. I 0:04:48.859 --> 0:04:50.699 was like what was the name of the apartments that 0:04:50.739 --> 0:04:53.059 you were staying at. I'm thinking about hitting them up. 0:04:53.899 --> 0:04:56.539 He kind of responded back, disappeared for a couple of days. 0:04:56.619 --> 0:04:59.019 Next thing I know, he was like, why would you 0:04:59.019 --> 0:05:00.499 stay there? Like, let's why don't we just get a 0:05:00.499 --> 0:05:02.819 spot together? And from there, I think we stayed together 0:05:02.859 --> 0:05:08.339 for about six years each summer. So just that connection, 0:05:10.419 --> 0:05:13.939 it's it's amazing. It's a bond that you know, it's 0:05:14.059 --> 0:05:17.739 unbreakable bond. Families are close that. Like I said, it's 0:05:17.739 --> 0:05:19.459 the brothers and me are always rooting for them no 0:05:19.459 --> 0:05:22.459 matter what the circumstances are. And I'm just happy that 0:05:22.499 --> 0:05:24.139 we can be back together on the court. 0:05:24.619 --> 0:05:27.099 And Andre, you said you visited the summerhouse, what was 0:05:27.179 --> 0:05:29.099 what was it like and what was the context of 0:05:29.219 --> 0:05:30.979 Like how invite to visit? 0:05:31.219 --> 0:05:32.619 Like, yeah, we were both in the Olympics at the 0:05:32.659 --> 0:05:35.099 time too, so I got invited for for that reason. 0:05:35.179 --> 0:05:39.019 That's how our connection started with USA basketball and he 0:05:39.179 --> 0:05:40.779 was over there He's like, Yo, if you're not doing anything, 0:05:40.779 --> 0:05:41.499 pull up to the house. 0:05:41.899 --> 0:05:44.499 So mind you this is like what that's probably don't 0:05:44.499 --> 0:05:46.539 think I don't think I signed my contract at fourteen. 0:05:46.579 --> 0:05:48.259 Then yeah, and signed my contract at SO to me 0:05:48.419 --> 0:05:51.859 seeing this, how I was like, yeah, this WI money 0:05:51.859 --> 0:05:55.139 looks like I guess I was just so big I 0:05:55.139 --> 0:05:59.099 got lost on multiple occasions. So just going there and 0:05:59.179 --> 0:06:01.539 just you know, being welcomed in this welcome to his home, 0:06:01.739 --> 0:06:04.139 just based off the relationship we have with USA basketball. 0:06:04.899 --> 0:06:07.019 Paul's just a stand up guy, you know, from the 0:06:07.059 --> 0:06:09.339 first that met him to present day. Still cool to 0:06:09.339 --> 0:06:11.379 this day when I see him, Like when you go 0:06:11.419 --> 0:06:13.619 to war with somebody and you build that relationship, it's 0:06:13.659 --> 0:06:16.019 always loved no matter how long you're apart from each other. 0:06:16.099 --> 0:06:18.819 So we sing with Jack too. You know, we went 0:06:18.859 --> 0:06:21.739 to war for years and the relationship always stand no 0:06:21.779 --> 0:06:22.979 matter where we went together. 0:06:23.739 --> 0:06:26.019 And Reggie, you and Paul, not just I mean through 0:06:26.019 --> 0:06:28.419 the agency, not just as teammates, but your your connection 0:06:29.019 --> 0:06:31.739 goes back from what I understand even to the AAU days. 0:06:31.859 --> 0:06:35.419 But the details are a little foggy. For on Paul 0:06:35.459 --> 0:06:37.899 George's end of playing against you, did he know you 0:06:37.979 --> 0:06:42.179 as just the good player from Denver in AAU ball. 0:06:42.219 --> 0:06:43.179 What's the story with that. 0:06:43.539 --> 0:06:46.579 I actually remember seeing PG and it was like Klay Thompson, 0:06:46.659 --> 0:06:48.459 Drew and all those guys. So I had never played 0:06:48.499 --> 0:06:51.219 AU and understand what it was. So I was excited 0:06:51.259 --> 0:06:53.699 to go. And then like he was there's a tall 0:06:54.739 --> 0:06:57.899 lank he got super tall, but kind of shoot who 0:06:57.939 --> 0:07:00.579 he is today? The smooth looking kid on their team. 0:07:01.259 --> 0:07:03.579 But like I said, seeing the Drew Holidays, seeing the 0:07:03.659 --> 0:07:05.579 Larry Drews, which we got, we got to play for 0:07:05.619 --> 0:07:10.459 his dad senior in LA, like that was when like 0:07:10.659 --> 0:07:12.459 I just wanted to measure up, see how good I was. 0:07:12.539 --> 0:07:16.299 At the time, I didn't know about other states playing basketball. Honestly, 0:07:16.299 --> 0:07:18.819 I had no idea. You so kind of researching and 0:07:18.979 --> 0:07:22.179 everybody's like, there's this pumping run, pumping run California, Like 0:07:22.179 --> 0:07:24.899 all right, I don't know who it is. But yeah, 0:07:24.939 --> 0:07:26.379 So the first time I seen them out there, I 0:07:26.419 --> 0:07:28.619 was like, oh, I know who this Drew Holiday kid is. 0:07:28.659 --> 0:07:31.019 I've kind of studied now, I know Larry Drew's I've 0:07:31.019 --> 0:07:33.659 seen I think Paul George is a sleeper, you know, 0:07:33.739 --> 0:07:35.699 Clay was a sleeper. But they had a pretty stacked team. 0:07:35.739 --> 0:07:37.299 So seeing them and then finally getting a chance to 0:07:37.299 --> 0:07:41.539 compete against them, it was very fun. I think that's 0:07:41.579 --> 0:07:45.579 where I got some of my confidence from and never 0:07:45.939 --> 0:07:47.259 knew that a lot of those guys would be the 0:07:47.259 --> 0:07:48.579 guys that were my peers I had to get a 0:07:48.619 --> 0:07:50.619 chance to play against so for most of my career. 0:07:50.739 --> 0:07:53.619 So shout out just thankful for the you circuit at 0:07:53.619 --> 0:07:56.099 the time, thankful to those guys allowed me to get 0:07:56.099 --> 0:07:57.699 a chance to measure up and really try to see 0:07:58.139 --> 0:07:59.899 where I was to keep giving me confidence to be 0:07:59.939 --> 0:08:02.579 able to play this long. But it was funny because 0:08:02.619 --> 0:08:04.819 then we were chatting once we were living together, like, 0:08:05.379 --> 0:08:07.019 hey man, I was like, I think I remember who 0:08:07.059 --> 0:08:08.539 you were and the teams he played on, especially the 0:08:08.579 --> 0:08:10.699 guys that he had made connection with, things like I 0:08:10.739 --> 0:08:12.299 know you from color Like did you play with a 0:08:12.339 --> 0:08:14.339 certain team? Are like yeah, He's like there was this 0:08:14.379 --> 0:08:15.939 one kid used to wear his headband on top of 0:08:16.019 --> 0:08:17.979 his head and I'm like, oh, you're talking about me. 0:08:19.619 --> 0:08:22.939 I had no idea, and come front forward, I've been 0:08:23.019 --> 0:08:26.219 like five years separation to then. Now we've had a 0:08:26.259 --> 0:08:27.419 bond ever since. 0:08:27.859 --> 0:08:29.939 It's funny best been in the league because that's the 0:08:30.099 --> 0:08:32.179 that's what I know him by too. When I was 0:08:32.739 --> 0:08:33.939 when I was in high school, I saw him that 0:08:33.939 --> 0:08:36.859 Boston College and that's what he had, the headband. That's 0:08:36.859 --> 0:08:39.059 how I remember who he was until he came back 0:08:39.099 --> 0:08:42.539 and played with me Detroit, so definitely stood out that 0:08:42.619 --> 0:08:44.539 had been because he definitely didn't worth the right way. 0:08:44.659 --> 0:08:46.779 And then we tried to get him on campus, but 0:08:47.579 --> 0:08:49.299 you know, popped up. He was a kid in the 0:08:49.339 --> 0:08:51.699 Northeast that everybody wanted. We moved working probably get me 0:08:51.699 --> 0:08:54.699 at BC. So it's funny at all comes forward is 0:08:55.739 --> 0:08:59.699 these relationships that you bypass each other in history and 0:08:59.739 --> 0:09:03.019 then you end up being real cool and friends for 0:09:03.139 --> 0:09:05.859 life down the road. So, like I said, it's funny 0:09:05.899 --> 0:09:08.379 to all kind of interact with PG at times with 0:09:08.459 --> 0:09:12.299 how we truly met. Have we seen each other as afar? 0:09:12.579 --> 0:09:14.819 I remember seeing Dre as a young kid being who 0:09:14.859 --> 0:09:18.899 Dre is now and then I never always just feel 0:09:18.899 --> 0:09:21.179 like I just try to lie in the shadows and 0:09:21.419 --> 0:09:23.579 be myself. But how he was like, He's like, yeah, 0:09:23.619 --> 0:09:24.979 you used to wear your head band. All funny and 0:09:24.979 --> 0:09:27.099 all we got to de trade him like, oh I 0:09:27.219 --> 0:09:29.899 remember you, you remember who I am. So it's funny 0:09:29.939 --> 0:09:31.779 with the game's done with a lot of these relationships 0:09:31.779 --> 0:09:32.699 that I've had in my life. 0:09:33.059 --> 0:09:35.619 You ended up at Boston College, So how did you? 0:09:35.659 --> 0:09:37.419 How did you end up on the East Coast because 0:09:37.419 --> 0:09:40.059 before Colorado and high school, you you lived all over 0:09:40.139 --> 0:09:43.179 because your dad was in the Air Force. How did 0:09:43.219 --> 0:09:45.219 you end up picking Boston College? 0:09:46.259 --> 0:09:53.139 Honestly, man, funny story. I was always tell all the 0:09:53.139 --> 0:09:55.339 time shots one of the Chauncey Bilichi was supposed to 0:09:55.339 --> 0:10:01.379 be at Colorado. There was. It's just a terrible mishap. 0:10:01.619 --> 0:10:05.939 I was honestly supposed to be funneled into Colorado. My 0:10:06.339 --> 0:10:08.699 one of my best friends from Colorado, his dad is 0:10:10.539 --> 0:10:14.699 he's been the what is the announcer, like the media 0:10:14.739 --> 0:10:17.459 voice for air Force forever. So coach Bisdelic was at 0:10:17.499 --> 0:10:21.179 air Force. My best friend's dad works at air Force. 0:10:21.259 --> 0:10:23.699 Sometime like since I got there middle school. He goes 0:10:23.739 --> 0:10:26.019 to see you. Everybody's like, Oh, this is gonna be 0:10:26.059 --> 0:10:32.259 easy transition. The visitor just didn't go well. Unfortunately, Terrell's here, 0:10:32.379 --> 0:10:35.859 who played at Oklahoma State. One of the coaches actually 0:10:35.939 --> 0:10:37.899 so way he doesn't know. I remember I went to 0:10:37.939 --> 0:10:40.579 one of their little mini camps, ended up ducking on 0:10:40.619 --> 0:10:42.299 some kid in their regular camp. Got invited to like 0:10:42.379 --> 0:10:44.499 do a little unofficial visit there. So that's actually where 0:10:44.499 --> 0:10:46.899 I wanted to go, but the coaching staff had kind 0:10:46.899 --> 0:10:49.579 of told me that it probably didn't work be there long. 0:10:49.659 --> 0:10:53.419 So I appreciate their honesty because that allowed me to 0:10:53.459 --> 0:10:55.779 not probably waste my time. I really wanted to go 0:10:55.819 --> 0:10:58.939 o Goha State. Then at when I was like fifteen, 0:10:58.979 --> 0:11:02.819 I think BC. Actually that's when they transferred into from 0:11:02.819 --> 0:11:04.939 Big East to the ACC Man they had a great 0:11:05.499 --> 0:11:10.059 showing a bunch of probably guys who kind of a 0:11:10.099 --> 0:11:13.339 similar route I did, au like unknown, and then they 0:11:13.339 --> 0:11:15.499 had some guys go to the league. So that was 0:11:15.499 --> 0:11:17.339 one of those I kind of paid attention. I'm trying 0:11:17.339 --> 0:11:19.659 to ride a similar wave, be around guys that are 0:11:19.699 --> 0:11:21.739 similar to me, and my mom had lived in Florida, 0:11:21.859 --> 0:11:23.859 so Boston College just went there. So I was like, 0:11:23.859 --> 0:11:25.819 I remember seeing them at fifteen sixteen, I was like, man, 0:11:25.819 --> 0:11:28.499 if they ever offered me, I'd probably go there. Just randomly. 0:11:28.619 --> 0:11:32.659 I was like, I'm actually look into it. And then 0:11:32.859 --> 0:11:37.659 I had a really great teammate Rip Drew Gordon. That's 0:11:37.659 --> 0:11:40.499 the first team ever played was Oakland Soldiers. They had 0:11:40.539 --> 0:11:42.979 like six kids in top one hundred, and my teammate 0:11:43.819 --> 0:11:45.979 at Boston College and who I went with, he had 0:11:45.979 --> 0:11:48.499 like sixty in overtime and it was like one of 0:11:48.499 --> 0:11:51.619 the games. I yeah, no, killing I had thirty and 0:11:51.659 --> 0:11:55.899 then that was my coach. Now is that you mass lol, 0:11:56.019 --> 0:11:58.219 So we always talked about then that's kind of we 0:11:58.219 --> 0:12:02.539 were a packaged deal to go to BC, so kind 0:12:02.539 --> 0:12:04.059 of flunking out with where I was supposed to go 0:12:04.059 --> 0:12:06.139 to college everywhere else the options that I wanted to 0:12:06.499 --> 0:12:09.899 BC was an acc and came to fruition. So a 0:12:09.979 --> 0:12:11.699 kid who just said I might go there if they 0:12:11.699 --> 0:12:15.379 ever offered me at seventeen, I could offer basically right 0:12:15.379 --> 0:12:17.979 at the end of the summer, and from there it 0:12:18.019 --> 0:12:19.619 was easy. It was an easy call. It was a 0:12:19.699 --> 0:12:21.099 chance to play in front of my family and the 0:12:21.099 --> 0:12:24.099 East College, chance to playing for my mom, possibly two 0:12:24.139 --> 0:12:27.339 times at Florida State and Miami. I always grew up 0:12:27.339 --> 0:12:30.099 a fan of North Carolina Tar Hills, and my motto was, 0:12:30.579 --> 0:12:32.659 I didn't get invited, so if you can't beat him, 0:12:32.739 --> 0:12:34.299 or if you can't join and beat them. So it 0:12:34.419 --> 0:12:37.019 was just a chance, especially at the time it was 0:12:37.019 --> 0:12:39.779 one of the power conferences for basketball. So I've always 0:12:39.819 --> 0:12:41.419 just wanted to see where I measure up, Like, I 0:12:41.499 --> 0:12:43.819 just wanted to play the basketball, do something I love 0:12:44.019 --> 0:12:45.899 as long as I can, and just see where I 0:12:45.939 --> 0:12:49.579 fall amongst my peers, and I've just been atramely blessed. 0:12:49.619 --> 0:12:51.219 But that's kind of how I ended up at BC. 0:12:51.779 --> 0:12:53.499 Thankful for my time here all the time. A lot 0:12:53.499 --> 0:12:56.139 of the relationships I've made, the bonds I made for 0:12:56.179 --> 0:13:00.739 a lifetime, I'm thankful. So it's funny how everything the 0:13:00.779 --> 0:13:02.699 game's done for me and a lot of relationships that 0:13:02.739 --> 0:13:03.459 I have because of it. 0:13:04.259 --> 0:13:05.339 Fast forward about a decade. 0:13:05.339 --> 0:13:08.619 You guys become teammates for the first time. How did 0:13:08.659 --> 0:13:12.339 you go from new teammates to this dynamic duo? You 0:13:12.339 --> 0:13:14.899 said package deal? Y'all sort of came here together this 0:13:15.059 --> 0:13:18.499 time as well. I understand there was some not texting back, 0:13:18.579 --> 0:13:21.139 but we made it. Can you sort of take us 0:13:21.139 --> 0:13:23.459 through sort of that friendship from being teammates for the 0:13:23.499 --> 0:13:25.979 first time to today rejoining here? 0:13:26.499 --> 0:13:28.939 You got it? Or we could both do. I'll give 0:13:28.979 --> 0:13:29.619 half the story. 0:13:30.019 --> 0:13:31.779 Yeah, Andre start and then you can call him out 0:13:31.779 --> 0:13:32.659 if he messes anything up. 0:13:32.659 --> 0:13:35.619 I think you was just I couldn't wait. I watched him, 0:13:35.619 --> 0:13:36.579 so I was like, I can't wait to be lave 0:13:36.659 --> 0:13:39.019 this kid. Your drumming like a chance to play with 0:13:39.019 --> 0:13:44.219 a center, athletic center, young upcoming hungry as Shroggsy is 0:13:44.299 --> 0:13:46.259 gifties he is, and I just remember the first time we met, 0:13:46.259 --> 0:13:48.499 but chatting it off and they were running and playing around. 0:13:48.499 --> 0:13:50.019 I was like, I was like, all right, I couldn't 0:13:50.019 --> 0:13:51.299 play the first game, but I remember time. I was like, 0:13:51.499 --> 0:13:52.779 if we ever get a chance played, I was like, 0:13:52.859 --> 0:13:55.539 be ready, I'll throw a lob from anywhere. He was 0:13:55.579 --> 0:13:56.979 like all right, kind of brushed it off. I think, 0:13:57.139 --> 0:14:00.059 like you're crazy. The first love we got was beyond 0:14:00.139 --> 0:14:01.939 half court and he was like, yo, you threw the 0:14:01.939 --> 0:14:03.579 ball and I was like, oh, if I throw it, it 0:14:03.579 --> 0:14:06.059 just goes out of bounce like right. He was like 0:14:06.699 --> 0:14:09.459 gaudy dunk and he's like, oh snap. And then he 0:14:09.539 --> 0:14:11.019 hung out with me and yeah. So then I had 0:14:11.059 --> 0:14:13.619 to meet with the owner and he came and he 0:14:13.619 --> 0:14:16.379 helped me out like being uncomfortable. Him and the owner 0:14:16.379 --> 0:14:18.179 were really close, so then me and him just hit 0:14:18.219 --> 0:14:20.819 it off. Actually where they put me in like this 0:14:21.579 --> 0:14:24.699 housing facility, I ended up looking. I didn't know Drake 0:14:24.819 --> 0:14:26.459 was there, so like I drive up, I'm looking like 0:14:26.499 --> 0:14:28.859 that Carlo's familiar. One day and next time I look 0:14:28.859 --> 0:14:31.299 out of my kitchen window and I think I'm on 0:14:31.299 --> 0:14:32.979 the second floor. Dre's on the floor, so like we 0:14:33.099 --> 0:14:35.859 actually could see each other diagonally, and I was like, wait, Drake. 0:14:36.059 --> 0:14:40.299 So ever since then we were just like inseparable. He's 0:14:40.339 --> 0:14:42.859 either at my spot or my hisads were playing the game. 0:14:43.139 --> 0:14:45.859 It would be two three am, like all right, we 0:14:45.899 --> 0:14:47.619 got to go to sleep, we have to get ready 0:14:47.659 --> 0:14:51.579 for work. We were just literally NonStop, whether always chatting 0:14:51.619 --> 0:14:54.179 what we see on the court, hanging out off the court. 0:14:54.499 --> 0:14:57.379 It just became like inseparable. We wanted to make sure 0:14:57.379 --> 0:14:59.579 our bond was as close as it could be, so 0:14:59.659 --> 0:15:02.699 we won, just trying to win as much you can 0:15:02.699 --> 0:15:04.979 of court, where we actually enjoyed being around each other 0:15:05.059 --> 0:15:07.819 and enjoy a lot of the same things, similar humor, 0:15:07.979 --> 0:15:10.499 similar games that we're into. But I really think it 0:15:10.539 --> 0:15:12.499 was more so the human part, like things that we 0:15:12.539 --> 0:15:16.379 find funny, random shows. And our families have made it 0:15:16.379 --> 0:15:18.579 easier too, because then they hit it off. So I 0:15:18.579 --> 0:15:20.299 think when your people hit it off as well and 0:15:20.419 --> 0:15:22.259 you're into a lot of the same things, it makes 0:15:22.299 --> 0:15:26.139 it easy. And he was just he's just genuine, Like honestly, 0:15:26.139 --> 0:15:28.979 the best thing for me was Dre was genuine. He's 0:15:29.019 --> 0:15:32.139 down to earth and He's exactly who he presents to be, 0:15:32.219 --> 0:15:34.859 So it made it easy for me to just kind 0:15:34.899 --> 0:15:36.419 of open up and be myself. Like I said, a 0:15:36.419 --> 0:15:38.259 lot of these guys, for me, I didn't know them 0:15:38.259 --> 0:15:40.579 because they played the au circuit. Things have gone, they've 0:15:40.579 --> 0:15:43.379 been in camps together. I'm kind of outsider looking in. 0:15:43.459 --> 0:15:45.859 I was always confused how people knew each other because 0:15:45.899 --> 0:15:47.619 I did research from like, wait, one guys from Cali, 0:15:47.659 --> 0:15:49.619 one guys from Texas, and the other guys from New York, Like, 0:15:49.659 --> 0:15:51.619 how do y'all know each other? And this has been 0:15:51.659 --> 0:15:55.579 this whole basketball community. But even without necessarily having that 0:15:55.779 --> 0:15:59.019 in my baggage or reps, like Dre was just always 0:15:59.019 --> 0:16:02.219 accepting it who I am. So it was just amazing. 0:16:02.419 --> 0:16:04.179 Back man, at the time, I think I coached my 0:16:04.539 --> 0:16:06.379 few of my coach staff from OKAC was over there, 0:16:06.459 --> 0:16:09.099 so like they just made sure we were always connected 0:16:09.139 --> 0:16:11.139 and always gonna hang out and be around each other, 0:16:11.179 --> 0:16:12.539 and then it just never stops. 0:16:13.419 --> 0:16:15.979 So this reunion aside, just because you did agree to 0:16:16.139 --> 0:16:19.539 sit in on the Reggie episode, Andre before you knew 0:16:19.579 --> 0:16:22.299 that Reggie was coming to Philadelphia with you, can you 0:16:22.299 --> 0:16:25.019 take us inside the decision to return to Philly and 0:16:25.259 --> 0:16:26.579 what it means to you to be back here. 0:16:27.179 --> 0:16:28.579 I feel like it was a no brainer for me 0:16:29.819 --> 0:16:31.739 when they called, you know, I sat down, talked to 0:16:31.819 --> 0:16:34.059 Nick for a little bit, and then when the big 0:16:34.099 --> 0:16:36.299 fellow called me, It's kind of what really solidified it. 0:16:38.139 --> 0:16:40.539 Just his approaching what he wanted from me is what 0:16:40.699 --> 0:16:44.139 was attractive, So like, why not? I mean, I had 0:16:44.139 --> 0:16:46.659 a great relationship here, I played well here, I know 0:16:46.779 --> 0:16:50.539 the city, I know the team, I know everything about Philadelphia, 0:16:50.619 --> 0:16:53.659 So why not come back and do something that's bigger 0:16:53.699 --> 0:16:57.299 than me? And now that we had you know, one 0:16:57.339 --> 0:17:00.499 of my best friends ever, you know, it just makes 0:17:00.579 --> 0:17:03.699 this situation even better. Like I've been smiling for the 0:17:03.739 --> 0:17:05.979 past week when I found out that he was coming here. 0:17:05.979 --> 0:17:09.219 I've been so excited. Just a relationship for Reggie and I. 0:17:09.379 --> 0:17:12.619 Man, it's it's different because in this league, it's hard 0:17:12.619 --> 0:17:14.979 to get attached to somebody because of how it goes. 0:17:15.019 --> 0:17:17.459 You know, people get traded, people get waived, and you know, 0:17:17.499 --> 0:17:20.459 you never see them again. So when we got him, 0:17:20.859 --> 0:17:22.659 you know, I didn't know what to really expect because 0:17:22.659 --> 0:17:24.419 we just played him like a week prior, and we 0:17:24.659 --> 0:17:25.899 I think at dunked on search that's the game with 0:17:25.979 --> 0:17:29.539 dunkd on search right, and ended up getting him like 0:17:29.579 --> 0:17:31.979 a week, like a week or two later. So I'm like, damn, 0:17:31.979 --> 0:17:34.419 I just seen this dude and he comes in and 0:17:35.779 --> 0:17:37.419 he's similar to me, Like he does the same much 0:17:37.459 --> 0:17:40.539 he does it with his play. I have the personality, 0:17:40.539 --> 0:17:42.619 he has the chill side. So that's why we bounce 0:17:42.659 --> 0:17:45.419 each other out. But when we got him, I was like, man, 0:17:45.459 --> 0:17:49.339 there's something about this dude that's different. And he came 0:17:49.379 --> 0:17:51.059 to me. I didn't even get to go to him first. 0:17:51.059 --> 0:17:53.099 We started talking. We hit it off, and as he said, 0:17:53.139 --> 0:17:57.179 we lived in the same apartment complex. And when you 0:17:57.219 --> 0:18:00.699 start building those personal relationships, like our families are tied together, 0:18:01.299 --> 0:18:06.659 you know, makes it hard to not checking out somebody, 0:18:06.739 --> 0:18:08.979 you know. I think he's probably one of the only 0:18:09.099 --> 0:18:13.619 people I've really kept in contact with since twenty thirteen. 0:18:14.619 --> 0:18:16.379 Everybody else, you know, I say what's up, but like 0:18:16.699 --> 0:18:19.299 consistently him and Stanley Johnson or like the closest people 0:18:19.299 --> 0:18:22.819 in the NBA that I have and the three Musket teams. Yeah, 0:18:22.819 --> 0:18:24.779 I mean, it's it means the world to me that 0:18:25.139 --> 0:18:26.939 he's here, you know, I'm so excited. 0:18:26.979 --> 0:18:29.219 It makes this like, so much more exciting. 0:18:28.899 --> 0:18:32.419 For me, letting your play do the talking. When you 0:18:32.499 --> 0:18:34.739 guys were with the Pistons, do you remember an early 0:18:34.779 --> 0:18:38.419 season game in Portland in twenty fifteen. It might have 0:18:38.499 --> 0:18:42.659 been the best game you've ever played. The game was 0:18:42.659 --> 0:18:44.779 a game career high on forty points. 0:18:44.819 --> 0:18:47.499 Nothing, It wasn't new, it was early in the year, 0:18:47.659 --> 0:18:49.739 and it's the game that shoot, it's the game that 0:18:49.779 --> 0:18:53.339 you and Marcus were yelling get forty. I'm like, who's 0:18:53.379 --> 0:18:57.139