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Speaker 3: You might know her as Winnie Cooper on The Wonder Years,

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Speaker 3: and she's turned that into career that's lasted nearly four decades.

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Speaker 3: even a former Dancing with the Stars quarter finalist. She

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Speaker 3: also graduated summa cum lati from UCLA and mathematics. And

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Speaker 3: there's a bunch of math stuff I should say, but

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Speaker 3: I don't know somebody of theorem that she helped prove.

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Speaker 3: That's how smart she is. She writes books. To me,

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Speaker 3: she will always be Winnie Cooper from The Wonder Years.

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Speaker 3: Here she is Danica mckeller. Danic, that's really nice to

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Speaker 3: meet you.

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Speaker 2: You too.

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Speaker 3: I would like to start with talking about something that

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Speaker 3: we have in common, which was we were both on

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Speaker 3: Dancing with the Stars.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you were.

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Speaker 1: How did you I did not win?

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Speaker 3: Okay, I usually don't like but I did. But I

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Speaker 2: It was, it was I liken it to childbirth. I

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Speaker 2: understand your wife is about to experience that. It was

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Speaker 2: the most physically demanding thing that I'd ever done. Except

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Speaker 2: I mean, it was thrilling and it was awesome. It

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Speaker 2: actually did forget the choreography. You can't quite tell. I

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Speaker 2: just look a little slop because like I remember what

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Speaker 1: Like, not when to do it was. It was weird.

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Speaker 1: So I was wearing these gloves it was this week seven.

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Speaker 2: They were mesh and they got caught in VAL's finger

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Speaker 2: it was like asking a non actor to improv suddenly

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Speaker 2: so it was like a very challenging experience. But I

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Speaker 2: television with twenty million million people watching, then you know,

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Speaker 2: it teaches you to It teaches you to be tough.

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Speaker 2: It teaches you that you are tough. It teaches you resilience.

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Speaker 2: I got so much out of that my whole life.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've loved this sort of charm life. Other

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Speaker 2: that kind of thing was just never part of my life.

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Speaker 2: And this experience in Dancing the Stars was very much

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Speaker 2: like that, because you have to figure out what you're

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Speaker 2: Because it's live, there's no there's no back door to

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Speaker 3: Of, and noybody else can do it for you.

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Speaker 2: Nobody else can do it for you, and nobody can.

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Speaker 2: I mean, your coaches are there, I'll help you. But

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Speaker 2: the toughness aspect of it was just very new for me,

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Speaker 2: Aside from the childbirth thing, I knew that one already.

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Speaker 2: This is this is like another level somehow because it

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Speaker 3: For the for the show, Yeah, it was a crazy

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Speaker 3: kind of people because it's a little it's trauma bonding

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Speaker 2: We were the rabbits, And I've never heard of any

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Speaker 3: Yes, I trauma bonded hard with the people on that

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Speaker 3: with people who have done it, who felt, oh, I've

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Speaker 1: Dance lessince before. I love dance.

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Speaker 1: Like wait, I know that I love this and there

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Speaker 2: the ice baths?

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Speaker 2: So proud of the dances, right, It's like, wow, look

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Speaker 2: so much fun. The tribute that I got to do,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just love that whole experience. It was

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Speaker 3: Twelve I counted. I think it's twelve. I think I

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Speaker 3: That's fun. Especially I think it's fun that I still

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Speaker 3: How did you get into acting?

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Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I so, do you know who Leslie and

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Speaker 3: Should? I?

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Speaker 2: You should? I know?

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Speaker 2: She's an actress. She's probably in probably almost eighty by now.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, I know.

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Speaker 1: Oh this is a great movie.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you have to watch anyways.

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Speaker 2: So watch it before you have a baby, because then

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Speaker 2: No, I just want to make sure you're actually it's

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Speaker 3: Did that role grow yeah, I mean it.

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00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,240
Speaker 1: Was throughout the whole season.

442
00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean it started off you said just

443
00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:07,520
Speaker 3: a guest. Was it then written after that pilot to

444
00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:08,600
Speaker 3: be a forever role?

445
00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:09,040
Speaker 2: Yes?

446
00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,360
Speaker 3: Was it because you were that impactful as a kid?

447
00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,719
Speaker 2: No, they said that. I mean, I don't know if

448
00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,800
Speaker 2: they said that Fred and I had a good chemistry

449
00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:19,120
Speaker 2: and they just was unexpected and they they just liked

450
00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:19,919
Speaker 2: liked me.

451
00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,000
Speaker 3: Did you feel famous as aw?

452
00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:23,760
Speaker 2: Not at all.

453
00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,400
Speaker 1: I had no idea one.

454
00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,240
Speaker 2: I think it was in our fourth or fifth season

455
00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,240
Speaker 2: somebody on set asked me how what it was like

456
00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,240
Speaker 2: to be America's sweetheart? And I was like, what what

457
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,639
Speaker 2: are you talking about? I was so busy going to school.

458
00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,960
Speaker 2: I went to Harvard Westlake School in Los Angeles, which

459
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,560
Speaker 2: is a private prep school, and so I was going

460
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,399
Speaker 2: back and forth between school and set, and I was

461
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:45,159
Speaker 2: very busy with that.

462
00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:46,439
Speaker 1: I never went to Hollywood parties.

463
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,520
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't even go to the Emmys that

464
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,480
Speaker 2: first year that we were nominated. So my dad has

465
00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,920
Speaker 2: scheduled a river trip for me and my sister and him,

466
00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,320
Speaker 2: and we're going to go on the Rogue River in Oregon,

467
00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,159
Speaker 2: and and you know, you can't fires and stuff, And

468
00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,640
Speaker 2: it turns out that, oh we were nominated for Best

469
00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:04,919
Speaker 2: Comedy Series.

470
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:05,800
Speaker 1: Well, we couldn't move.

471
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,640
Speaker 2: The trip because of my dad's work issues and schedule,

472
00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:09,680
Speaker 2: and so we.

473
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,399
Speaker 1: Didn't We didn't go to the Emmys.

474
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,560
Speaker 2: We went on the On the trip, I remember my

475
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,840
Speaker 2: sister and my dad and I were in this little

476
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:20,160
Speaker 2: motel in Oregon and we watched The Wonder Years win

477
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,359
Speaker 2: Best Comedy Series on this tiny little television. I remember

478
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,960
Speaker 2: jumping up and down on the bed so excited. Woke

479
00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,679
Speaker 2: up at five in the morning, hit the river and

480
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 2: had like the trip of I still remember the best

481
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 2: memories from that trip, placking, picking blackberries on the side

482
00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,680
Speaker 2: of the river, and it's just it's, you know, it's

483
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,760
Speaker 2: a It's a testament to my parents. And they never

484
00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:43,199
Speaker 2: overemphasized the importance of Hollywood or I mean, you can

485
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 2: imagine a lot of stage moms would have been like,

486
00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:46,000
Speaker 2: what do you have to go to the Emies? And

487
00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm going with you? None of that. It was it

488
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,160
Speaker 2: was family came first, and that was such an important

489
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,239
Speaker 2: lesson and I'm so grateful to both of them for

490
00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,560
Speaker 2: having those values.

491
00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 3: Did you feel the success of the show grow.

492
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I was vaguely where you know, when you're

493
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,919
Speaker 2: a kid, whatever you were going through, you kind of

494
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,679
Speaker 2: think is normal, So I didn't have that perspective on

495
00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,160
Speaker 2: it until after. In fact, when I got to UCLA,

496
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 2: the show had ended within a few months of me

497
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 2: graduating from high school, and when I went to UCLA,

498
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 2: I remember thinking, Okay, all right, well that's.

499
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 1: Done, so we're all going to move on now.

500
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 2: And of course everywhere I went on campus, everyone was like, Oh,

501
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 2: Minny Cooper.

502
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,120
Speaker 1: Where's Kevin.

503
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, what, or should that girl from The Wonder yours?

504
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 1: Or is that girl from that show?

505
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 2: I joined a sorority because I just needed to get

506
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 2: away from like everybody just like recognizing me all the time,

507
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 2: and I wanted to find out who I was. I

508
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 2: had no idea. So that's really I think when it

509
00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 2: hit me like how big the show was, because it

510
00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 2: was just everywhere everybody was calling me by this character name.

511
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,600
Speaker 3: Do people still recognize you as her?

512
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 2: Yes? But it doesn't bother me anymore. I'm totally great

513
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 2: with it. It's I've come to total peace with it. I

514
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 2: shook a break from acting for four years at UCLA

515
00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 2: to get a degree in mathematics, sort of redefined myself

516
00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 2: for myself. Then I went back to ashing because I

517
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 2: missed it. I did the West Wing for a year

518
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 2: and then just various things before I landed on a

519
00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,200
Speaker 2: Hallmark Channel and now Great American Family Channel and doing

520
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,240
Speaker 2: these really sweet rom com movies that I just love,

521
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 2: and now I write them and produce them as well,

522
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 2: and it's just been it's been such a great journey.

523
00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 2: And I feel like I got so lucky to avoid

524
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 2: the pitfalls of child stardom that happens so often to

525
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: kids who because and I understand why it happens. You're

526
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,120
Speaker 2: so well known for this one character at a time

527
00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: in your life when you're trying to figure out who

528
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 2: you are and what your value is, you don't know,

529
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 2: like who would I be if I didn't have this

530
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,480
Speaker 2: this character that everyone loves so much, or I didn't

531
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 2: have that show. I had a friend in high school

532
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,959
Speaker 2: who had this long, red, naturally red hair, and everywhere

533
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 2: she went, everybody was like, oh my gosh, your hair,

534
00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 2: your hairs. Finally she cut it off and died it black,

535
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 2: and she's like, I need to find out, like who else? Like, well,

536
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 2: what else you know? And so for me, mathematics was

537
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 2: that thing. I took a break from it and I

538
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 2: studied math and it gave me something else to hold

539
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: on to, something to feel important for valued for. I

540
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: had no idea the later I'd end up writing math books.

541
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 2: I just was doing it because I like the challenge

542
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 2: of it and I needed to find out who I

543
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 2: was do something totally different.

544
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,240
Speaker 1: Well yeah, exactly exactly.

545
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,119
Speaker 2: And none of the professors had any idea who I was,

546
00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: well none of them didn't even many didn't even know

547
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 2: own TVs.

548
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: But they were interested in the way.

549
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 2: My mind worked, and I and I had a great time.

550
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,520
Speaker 2: It was it was just finding out. We're just discovering Danika.

551
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 3: I have friends that have been successful artists and they

552
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 3: have a song or two that it was a massive song,

553
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 3: and they have a weird relationship with it, right because

554
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,240
Speaker 3: when it happens, it's what they're about. It got them there,

555
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,919
Speaker 3: and then it's really what they're known for, and they're like,

556
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 3: I'm so much more than this one song. And then

557
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 3: they have this relationshiphere they don't want to play it anymore.

558
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 3: They know people know them and love them for it,

559
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 3: and they begrudgingly play it, right, and then they get

560
00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,320
Speaker 3: to the point where they're like, why am I fighting this?

561
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:57,439
Speaker 4: Is?

562
00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 3: That?

563
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 2: Is that parallel you're yes, well once because when once

564
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 2: I wasn't I guess dependent on it for like, once

565
00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 2: that wasn't my where my value came from. You know,

566
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: once I was more solidly in a different place in

567
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,679
Speaker 2: my life where I was like, okay, well I'm also

568
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: I also I am a math author, and I also

569
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 2: like have these other jobs that I've done. And then

570
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 2: I recognize that, oh, this is why a lot, this

571
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,400
Speaker 2: is why I get to go on the Today Show

572
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 2: from a math book that's coming out. This is why

573
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 2: so many more kids are being helped by my books

574
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: because their parents know me from the show and they say,

575
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 2: oho person to help you with math.

576
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 1: That was a huge revelation for me.

577
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,919
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, this is such a gift,

578
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,719
Speaker 2: What an amazing foundation. This is why when I do

579
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,040
Speaker 2: a Christmas move for a great American family channel, people

580
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 2: watch it. And the reason my movies do well. Part

581
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 2: of the reason is because automatically I bring them a

582
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,160
Speaker 2: warm and fuzzy feeling because it connects them to their childhood.

583
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: What an amazing gift. And that's all because of the

584
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 2: wonder years.

585
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 3: Do you get creepy guys that come up and go

586
00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: you are my childhood crush just randomly.

587
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I wouldn't say creepy.

588
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I feel like any guy just saying that randomly

589
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 3: would be creepy, So maybe the guy's not creepy. Do

590
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 3: you feel like that's creepy if a guy just comes

591
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 3: up and goes, Hi, you don't know me, but you're

592
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 3: in my childhood crush.

593
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 2: No, it happens all the time, and people are like,

594
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 2: it's amazing. I got to be part of the childhood,

595
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,640
Speaker 2: and I know the people that we admire when we're

596
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 2: kids have a different place in our heart.

597
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 3: It's absolutely different. We get starstruck and over those people

598
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 3: for sure.

599
00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I remember this is a random but I

600
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 2: met Larry Hagman. My mom used to show us Dallas

601
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: and I was and I was on the Wonder Years.

602
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 2: It was like I was the height of my fame

603
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 2: from the Wonder Years and I met Larry Hagman. I

604
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 2: was so starstruck I could barely talk. That's just how

605
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 2: it is.

606
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: I really hated the ending. Yeah, I don't know how

607
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 3: you feel about it. Can I tell you why I

608
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 3: hated it?

609
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 2: Sure?

610
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 3: I wanted the bow. Yeah, you know, because the final

611
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,199
Speaker 3: episode it's like and you know, I met Winnie at

612
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: the airport a pair of raising and I was with

613
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: and Kevin was with his wife.

614
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: I like that, I know, I know I didn't like

615
00:24:58,560 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: it either.

616
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 2: But the thing is, the Wonders was all about bittersweet

617
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: memories and stuff, everything tied up in a bow. Then

618
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be that show. I know, the dad. Why

619
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 2: did they have to kill off.

620
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: The dad died? I know, Yeah, it's weird. That was

621
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: considered a comedy too, I know.

622
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: Looking you know, the first season was more of a comedy.

623
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, when Neil Marlins and Carol Black when they were

624
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: still producing, when they were still in charge, it was

625
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,479
Speaker 2: more in comedy. But then it went on to be

626
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 2: more sentimental, I guess.

627
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 3: And the brother was never Marilyn Manson, that was.

628
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: The best friend was also never.

629
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's right, so Wayne, they'll get that. It's

630
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 3: been a while since I've watched the show. Wayne was

631
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 3: the brother brother played by Jason Paul. Yes, was the

632
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 3: best friend? Yes, Jo, and you will say that Josh

633
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: is not Marilyn Manson? Correct? Did you ever hear that rumor?

634
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, years before the internet. I heard the rumor,

635
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: like like in the nineties. I remember people talking about,

636
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,880
Speaker 2: look what, no, how did rumors even ever start? Back

637
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: before the internet. I'm been sure.

638
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 3: I saw. I was doing some research on your math

639
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 3: books before you came in, and so you're on my

640
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: TikTok algorithm now. And the episode of you doing the

641
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 3: Mario Brothers television show, Oh gosh, do you remember that?

642
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 2: Yes?

643
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 3: It was live, it was live. Those two people are live.

644
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: You're a kid.

645
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: Yes, it was a horrible episode.

646
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 2: It was so the lame. But look, I love Mario

647
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: Brothers in general, so it's fine, and they're all lovely people.

648
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 2: But I watched it, and I'm like, what kind of

649
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 2: story is this? I'm like, lying pretending to be an orphan.

650
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 2: The plot was not the best. But actually my mom

651
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: was friends with a producer and that's why I did it.

652
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 2: But now my son Draco, who's fifteen, he he has

653
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 2: loved Super Mario Brothers since he was like five or

654
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: six years old.

655
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: He still does, and so he thinks it's hilarious. So

656
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: just for that, I'm glad I did it.

657
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 3: Does he watch the show? Has he watched the show?

658
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: He's seen that one episode?

659
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 5: No?

660
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 3: I mean wonder yours? Oh how Mario Brothers.

661
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 2: Right. I showed him one episode of The Wonder Years

662
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: and he wasn't then to do it, and he also didn't.

663
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: He was surprised that that was me. I'm like, you don't.

664
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: Think I still look the same everybody else does. He's like, what, No,

665
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: And here's the thing. People who grew up, who are

666
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: kids When I was a kid and grew up, then

667
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: you go, oh, it's the same face. Because we all

668
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: grew up. You have to evolve with the person. If

669
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: you didn't, then you look back and like, I guess

670
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 2: I could see it.

671
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,879
Speaker 3: Maybe would you want him to get into a creative field?

672
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 3: Does he want to?

673
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 2: It's so weird because so he's fifteen. When I was fifteen,

674
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: I was already on the show. His dad is in music,

675
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: and his dad was already composing and knew what he

676
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: was going to do, was already doing it. Draco doesn't

677
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 2: know what he wants to do yet, and I don't

678
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,360
Speaker 2: even know how to Like, how do I support that?

679
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: He's very creative.

680
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 2: He plays piano beautifully, he does ballroom dance, he does improv,

681
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: he loves all that stuff. He does these science videos,

682
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: we do homeschooling and so he does an online science

683
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: class and many times they give the option of doing

684
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: a video for the project, so he'll do the experiments

685
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,119
Speaker 2: of the science sxsper as video. Like he could be a

686
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 2: YouTube star while he's really funny, but none of those

687
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: guests publish. It's just for his school, don't. I don't

688
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: know what he's going to want to do. It's not

689
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: that I want him to get into something creative. I

690
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: actually think he should have a trade on the side,

691
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 2: because honestly, AI is coming for all the jobs and

692
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 2: they're not going to come for the pumbing jobs or

693
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 2: electrician jobs, and like, I want you to learn a trade.

694
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: So that's actually something I'm going to be doing with

695
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: him helping.

696
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 2: Just have it on the side. And this is why

697
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 2: I tell people who want to get into the acting business.

698
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 2: I say, look, that's great, but there's so many dry spells,

699
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: and it will really mess with your sense of self,

700
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: Like when you're not working and you don't know when

701
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 2: you're going to be working again. For me, have something

702
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: else that you also can make money at that you

703
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 2: also enjoy doing, and do that thing too. I remember

704
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 2: when I was on the West Wing, Emily Proctor told

705
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: me how she would flip houses. That was for sidegig.

706
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: She'd buy a house, fix it up over a few months,

707
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 2: and then sell it, and that kept her sane. So

708
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 2: even if you have a regular job as an actor,

709
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: it's really good to have something else. So for me,

710
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: that was writing math books. I've been writing math books

711
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 2: for twenty years. I think I'm actually finally done. I

712
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 2: think number twelve was the was the final book for now.

713
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 3: Those are famous last words.

714
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 2: I know, I know, but I'm If I'm some inspired,

715
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,719
Speaker 2: perhaps I will, But for now, I feel like that

716
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: was like, okay, good. I blanketed the ages that I

717
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 2: wanted to. I've written the books that I think are

718
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: really helpful. I could say, here, take this in homeschool

719
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 2: with it, it'll be great up until you know, high

720
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: school geometry, so.

721
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: That I feel good with that. Yeah, it's just it's been.

722
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: It's been such an adventure in so many different directions

723
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: in my life so far. And I think part of

724
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: the reason why I think I'm probably not going to

725
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 2: do any more math book writing maybe is because I'm

726
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: writing scripts now. So I wrote my Christmas movie last

727
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 2: year for Great American, I'm actually writing mine right now today,

728
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 2: Like I was working at think this morning, and I

729
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: work on it again later for this coming Christmas as well.

730
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 2: So I definitely love writing, but I'm switching my focus

731
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 2: for now.

732
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 4: The Bobby Cast will be right back. This is the

733
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 4: Bobby Cast as a young kid. Did you like math again?

734
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 4: I liked the challenge, but yes I did.

735
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: It's like a puzzle.

736
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're like puzzles.

737
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: I was a really good student. I hated math. I couldn't.

738
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 3: I shouldn't say couldn't, because I don't think that I

739
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: can't do anything. That's a double negative. I know, but

740
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 3: I struggled naturally with math, and I didn't struggle with

741
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 3: anything else, like I crushed my standardized test, my act.

742
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: My lowest was always math, so I wouldn't have been

743
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: drawn to something that I think I found the most

744
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: difficulty in. So I'm wondering why you were drawn of

745
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: everything you were studying to math.

746
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: I guess I just I like the logical puzzles.

747
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: I just I like how it expands your brain, and

748
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: I just like that feeling. And I did do better

749
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: on math in English, so I guess I'm better at

750
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: math and I am English and memorize for Carevlary and

751
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 2: things like that. I tend to be a pretty literal person,

752
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: like I tend to be gullible in that way. I

753
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: tend to believe people when they say things. I mean,

754
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 2: you know, But so for me, I think the logic

755
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: always appealed to that part of my brain.

756
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 3: And you've written twelve math books I have. How do

757
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: you write a math book?

758
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: I decide what I want to teach, and then I find

759
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: a fun way to teach it. So all my books

760
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 2: there are mckller Maths, the mckellermath books. They're all at

761
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: mckellermath dot com. They're for ages babies through high school geometry.

762
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 2: So the highest level I have is high school geometry.

763
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: Say when you're fifteen sixteen years old. I never did

764
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: an algebra two book. People have asked about it, but

765
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: there just wasn't as much of demand.

766
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: It's the books.

767
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: My books are not in schools. They are books that

768
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: parents buy their kids to help them. Cheaper than a tutor,

769
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 2: but super fun. Again, like I always okay, what's my angle?

770
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 3: Like?

771
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: I have a book for third and fourth graders called

772
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: The Times Machine and teaches times tables right like multification

773
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: and division.

774
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: But I come up with fun ways to teach those things.

775
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: So it drove me crazy that it tried to know

776
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: crazy that in schools there's so much more demand on

777
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: the teachers they don't have time to really drill the

778
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: multiplication facts anymore, and so kids don't know them. And

779
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: if you don't know your multiplication facts, how do you

780
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 2: reduce their fraction? How do you do basic alergybro without

781
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: really struggling? So I was like, I need to write

782
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: a book where I make it easier to actually memorize them,

783
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 2: because you need to memorize them. So I have little stories,

784
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,720
Speaker 2: a little I mean things like multiples of two or five?

785
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: Which are you know? Nine has some really great tricks,

786
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: you know, the nine tricks. Hold up your hands.

787
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: At this point I memorized them so thoroughly that I

788
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: don't good. Yeah, but okay.

789
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 2: For people who are listening, take out your hands, look

790
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 2: at them, spread your fingers wide.

791
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: I don't know this, So you're teaching me, okay, good?

792
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: So nine times?

793
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: What?

794
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 3: Okay, give me number? It's like six six?

795
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so count on your fingers one, two, three or

796
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: four five six? Put the sixth finger down, which is

797
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: probably your pinky, unless if your palms are facing you.

798
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: I mean that's yes, five, four fifty four. Put down

799
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 2: your third finger. It's two and seven.

800
00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 3: Hold I knew the answer. My mind is still blown.

801
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: So there's some fun tricks like that. Hold on, because

802
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 3: this is cool. I didn't know that. Okay, okay, nine

803
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: times four, So I'm gonna put down my fourth finger.

804
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: For thirty six.

805
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: Wait, hold on, one, two, three, four? What am I

806
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 3: messing up here? Because I oh thirty one?

807
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, his face, you guys should see his face.

808
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: I didn't know this. I guess I didn't have to

809
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 3: take so.

810
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: Anyway, So those are I was gonna say those are

811
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: non and I did put that in the book. But

812
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 2: what I have stories, so like like nine.

813
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: Times twenty seven, guys, twenty seven, this is crazy. I

814
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: have adult friends that need to know this but still

815
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: don't know that. I'm sorry to interrupt you. I just

816
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 3: never knew that trick.

817
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but I have I have stories. I have

818
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 2: characters in it. So anytime you see a six, you

819
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: know there's gonna be a six sided block. Anytime you

820
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: see a four, there's gonna be a puppy because it's

821
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: got four legs. So I have like these stories and

822
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 2: so six times seven is forty two. Mister Mouse is

823
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 2: the main character in the book, well and miss Squirrel,

824
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: and then there's Danakay characters.

825
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm a little cartoon in it.

826
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: So mister mouse loves cheese, of course, so anytime you

827
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: see seven in a story, that means we're talking about, oh,

828
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: something happens over a week. So mister mouse eats a

829
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: six sided block of cheese because he loves cheese, obviously,

830
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: every day for seven days, so this represents six times seven. Well,

831
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: at the end of those seven days of eating that

832
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: six sided block of cheese, mister mouse is pretty full

833
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: and farty two FARTI too. Yeah.

834
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 1: So so just for if.

835
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: You're you know, an eight or nine year old kid

836
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: and you're trying to memory mumification facts.

837
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: I have adult friends that need this.

838
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 2: Well yeah, anyways, so that's so that's that's the times machine.

839
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: But I've got so my goal, and I mean I

840
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: teach algebra. A book called hot X Algebra Exposed I

841
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,399
Speaker 2: have for middle school Math doesn't suck and kiss my math,

842
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 2: and I we you know, when I introduced algebra, I say, oh,

843
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: here's X meat X and then there's a little X

844
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 2: with the dialogue, Bubble says Hi, like he's not so bad.

845
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 1: You know, we're not gonna call it algebra.

846
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 2: We're gonna call it happy Land, just you know, trying

847
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: to shake up the nerves that kids tend I have

848
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 2: around math, because math can be dull and boring and scary,

849
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 2: but it's all the way it's presented. And so that's

850
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: what I learned. When I was in school, I had

851
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 2: a couple teachers, one teacher in particular who made math

852
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,280
Speaker 2: so fun. It was the seventh grade that I couldn't

853
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,720
Speaker 2: believe it was the same topics. It confused me so much,

854
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 2: and so I realized, wait, this is about the presentation.

855
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: Math is a language, and you can talk about anything

856
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 2: in the language of math. I see it's one of

857
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 2: the engineers nodding. I love that. That always makes me happy.

858
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: So this is this is my This has been my

859
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: mission make math more fun and accessible for kids. I've written,

860
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: I think all the books. I'm going to four. My

861
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: last one, my twelfth one, came out in November on

862
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: the fourth of November, which is what I said for

863
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: It's called I Love You one hundred, a counting book

864
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 2: full of love, and it's a really sweet story about

865
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 2: a mother and her son, and it goes through talking

866
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 2: about basically showing her child that no matter what he does,

867
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: she loves him, so whether whether he's happy or sad

868
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,800
Speaker 2: or makes a mess, so sort of counting all the

869
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,839
Speaker 2: way that she loves her son. It's about unconditional love

870
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: and also teaching kids how to count to one hundred.

871
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: So each page has like a the next decade, and

872
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: it's represented by something that sort of, you know, is

873
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: evocative of that number of fifties, fifty states, sixty sixty

874
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 2: seconds on o'clock, you know, And it's it's just a

875
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 2: really sweet book and it's available where every books you're sold.

876
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 2: I Love You one hundred.

877
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 3: That's really cool. Did you go to UCLA and study math?

878
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: I did I have a degree in math? Yes?

879
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: What a degree in math? What does that specifically? Is

880
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 3: there like a version of math you study? I'm very

881
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: different kind of question.

882
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 2: It's pure mathematics, was the name of my You can

883
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 2: do applied math, you can do you know, statistics or economics,

884
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 2: or there's all sorts of things that use a lot

885
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 2: of math in it. But I did pure math, which

886
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: means it doesn't really have much application at all, unless

887
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 2: you want to write math books and have.

888
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: A degree of course. I didn't need to.

889
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 2: I didn't need calculus or real analysis to write my

890
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: math books.

891
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: But it gives you curing kind of grab a toss.

892
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 3: I want to reply back on something you said a

893
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: second ago, because it's playning my head over and over

894
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: again that you were in labor for the something hours.

895
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: Thirty six hours.

896
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: Yes, we're about to do this.

897
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I'm so excited for you.

898
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:05,959
Speaker 3: But that seems like a long time.

899
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: It was because I stubbornly did not want to get

900
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 2: a see section ends, and I eventually I did get

901
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 2: to give birth naturally.

902
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: I did no drugs, yep.

903
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,760
Speaker 2: But it was really funny is that I was gonna

904
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: there's this program I don't know if it's around anymore.

905
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: It's called hypno birthing. So I had my child fifteen

906
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: years ago. He switte, and hypno birthing is like you're

907
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: supposed to do it, like everything's calm. I had signs

908
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: made for the hospital room, you know, please quiet voices,

909
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: hypno birthing in progress. I did all these like now,

910
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 2: I'm sure it helped me to relax. It did help

911
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: me in the in the hours and hours leading up

912
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: to active labor, because I was just like breathing and calm.

913
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: But man, that labor started, it was like, you know,

914
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: and I remember thinking, like I just want to see

915
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: the scene of somebody walking by, going look at the

916
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: sign please quiet voices, hypno birthing and that's hypno birthing. No.

917
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: But it did help me. I will say it did

918
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: help me anyway.

919
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: It's it's the most remarculous thing in the whole wide world.

920
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 2: I Draco had his little hand up alongside his head.

921
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 2: He did not He was not easy to come out.

922
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: So it was like it was like delivering a thirteen

923
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 2: fourteen pound baby because the centir comference, speaking of math terms,

924
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: circumference of his head was bigger than.

925
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 3: It should have been because his arm was up, his

926
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 3: hand was.

927
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: Right next to with him, and they tried to like

928
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 2: dislodge it and they didn't want to, like, you know,

929
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: mess with it anyway. So it took a little extra time.

930
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: But it was.

931
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 2: It was so cathartic, and not being on any drugs

932
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: at all, I got to his and everyone, look, everyone's

933
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: first story is different, and there's absolutely no judgment. I'm

934
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 2: grateful that it all worked out that way. It was

935
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 2: very uncomfortable, very very very long time, and the actual

936
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: active labor was like nothing. I mean it was it

937
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: was like I felt connected to women for like all

938
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: the ages.

939
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 3: Like pilgrim women. Yeah, that's what I think. It's like sixteen.

940
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 2: I remember that. And I had a duela with me.

941
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 2: I highly recommend a doula. It's your advocate because the

942
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: doctor's come and go. When you're in labor for that long,

943
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 2: you're not gonna have same nurses or the same doctors

944
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: because they're all gonna go home and got his life.

945
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: So having a duela was great and and uh uh

946
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 2: she was fantastic.

947
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: She just she it was like this calming hand.

948
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: And I remember after after I get birth, and oh,

949
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 2: she told me, you're going to have a gurgling sound.

950
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 2: You're going to make a sound, and you're when your

951
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 2: baby comes out, he's going to be making the same

952
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 2: sound that you did. Now again, I don't think. I

953
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 2: think this only exists if you're not taking an every

954
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: girl because you're just you're just in it in no way.

955
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 2: I was there with my sister's birth. She's a girl,

956
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 2: she's like, oh, it's like, oh, did I iced to

957
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 2: give the birth? Oh? Cool?

958
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: So different.

959
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: It was so different.

960
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: Her daughter came out so fast that we all like like, well,

961
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 2: you know, it was different.

962
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 1: So but I loved my experience.

963
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: And sure enough, when when Draco came out, there's this

964
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 2: gurgling like I can almost sense of I can't hear

965
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 2: exactly what it sounds like, but I can sense memory

966
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: kind of like I feel it. It was. It was

967
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 2: so primal, and he was making that same guttural sound,

968
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: and and he just started to come out, and the

969
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: doctor said, reach down and get your baby. He was

970
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 2: like halfway out and I got to finish delivering Draco

971
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 2: throw my stomach. He said, reached down to get your baby.

972
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 2: I didn't even we hadn't even talked about it, and

973
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,879
Speaker 2: it was I don't even know how to describe it.

974
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: I felt complete.

975
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: I felt absolutely complete in a way that I could

976
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 2: never describe. It was amazing. And my husband, who was

977
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: my accept now but we're all still friends. We all

978
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 2: get along.

979
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 1: He was he was in the room and he's looked

980
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: at me and said, Danica.

981
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,280
Speaker 2: You never have to prove anything ever again. I was like, wow, okay,

982
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 2: I'll take.

983
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 3: It so in that thirty six hours. This is gonna

984
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 3: be a real dumb question. But do you ever like

985
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: fall asleep?

986
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 5: No?

987
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: Oh, couldn'tess No, No, because the contractions are happening every

988
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: ten minutes.

989
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: No, that's the least of it.

990
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 2: That's the least of it. That's like, oh, that's adorable.

991
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: Worrying about not sleeping enough. No, you don't sleep, and

992
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: then you don't sleep for a while afterwards too. You

993
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: get like little naps here and there, but your baby.

994
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: You're in the hospital. You've got this baby, and you're

995
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: you know, and the doctors are coming in. They're not

996
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: even worried at all about like if you've gotten your rest,

997
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: because they're on their schedule and their names to do

998
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 2: what they're doing. And the nurses come in, so you're

999
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: getting like maybe an hour or two here and like

1000
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 2: here and there, breastfeeding and like just trying to You're like,

1001
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 2: how do I fall asleep while holding my baby? And

1002
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: they prop you up with pillows and stuff, and then

1003
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: his dad took them for a little while. No, you're

1004
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: not thinking must sleep. You're not like I'm tired. Maybe

1005
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: the dad is, I don't know, the mom.

1006
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: You're not at all.

1007
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 2: You're in this, there's another program that's running, is the

1008
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 2: best way you describe it.

1009
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: I'm older having our first kid, so I'm in my forties,

1010
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: but I understand that, but I still think, you know,

1011
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 3: I have these thoughts and feelings probably of what people

1012
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: do if they're nineteen and they're having a kid. Like

1013
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 3: a lot of the obviously the unknown. I do feel

1014
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 3: like I at least know who I am, so I

1015
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 3: think that's very helpful. I at least know what I

1016
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 3: don't want to be based on how I grew up.

1017
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 3: But it's weird to go to people that I know

1018
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 3: that even work for me, that are fifteen years younger

1019
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: and I'm like, hey, give me some advice. That's kind

1020
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 3: of a weird thing to throw someone younger and be like,

1021
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: what do you think about it?

1022
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 2: You know what's even wilder is when your child learns

1023
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: the skill that you don't have. Watching my son play piano,

1024
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 2: you're going to love it. It will blow your mind

1025
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 2: when your child can do something or teaches you something.

1026
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 2: Like we were doing taekwondo for a while in Los

1027
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: Angeles and he was taking to Edisad to join him

1028
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: at some point and he was teaching me stuff.

1029
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: He was like seven years old.

1030
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 2: It's great. You are going to love being a dad.

1031
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: You're going to love it.

1032
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 2: I'm going to give a little one other tidbit that's

1033
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: sort of it's not really controversial, but it's just something

1034
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 2: that I did that most people don't do. You've heard

1035
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: about the postpartum depression woman. So I believe thoroughly, wholeheartedly

1036
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: that the reason this happens is because of we are

1037
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: supposed to consume the placenta, and I did.

1038
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: I had a doul it. She took the placenta, made

1039
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 1: freeze dry.

1040
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: She like freeze dried it, put it into capsules, and

1041
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 2: I took that throughout that month or two or whatever

1042
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: it was.

1043
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 3: You took it for a while. It's not a one

1044
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: time thing. You don't just eat it and it's over.

1045
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: Well, you can, you can, but the way it was,

1046
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: the way I did it was that. But I will

1047
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,919
Speaker 2: tell you one thing too, because I'm because I'm I'm

1048
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: fifty one now and I don't care. I My Duela said,

1049
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 2: do you want to taste the placenta like this is

1050
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: I'd just given birth, And I'm like sure, I mean,

1051
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 2: you're not even you're not in your right mind. She

1052
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: gave me a piece of it, Bobby. It was like

1053
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 2: the best filame Mignon that I have ever tasted like,

1054
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 2: but more I was embarrassed. I was embarrassed about how

1055
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: much I loved it. It was bizarre. I thought, what is.

1056
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: This some sort of weird like satanic? But like I

1057
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: get what I.

1058
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: You know, we are meant, we are meant to have that.

1059
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: That was and I was so glad and realizing. I

1060
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: was like, I am going to just tell people this.

1061
00:43:58,760 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna talk about it when you do pop

1062
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: yeah some things, because I believe that that's the case.

1063
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: And I don't know why we got away from what

1064
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: animals do it?

1065
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: Are we away from it? I mean, I feel like

1066
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 3: my wife and I have talked about it like it's

1067
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:10,960
Speaker 3: not even that weird.

1068
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, for a you have placenta encapsulation person?

1069
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: Is that a person?

1070
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 2: Yes, you get a placenta encapulation person, Well, you don't

1071
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: have to, you know.

1072
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: My sister did it differently.

1073
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 2: She just like took it home and a cooler and

1074
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:24,919
Speaker 2: put it in a blender and then made like ice

1075
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 2: cubes and made put it in her shake to each

1076
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: her own, but I recommend highly.

1077
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: Bring it with you.

1078
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 3: Will they let you just take it out of this

1079
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 3: they will?

1080
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, has yours. You have to ask that, you have

1081
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: to ask for it, and you have to have a cooler.

1082
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: But I mean, like, I didn't trust myself to be

1083
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: sanitary with like, I didn't know. I just didn't. I

1084
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 2: was like, great, you're gonna make me pills. Fantastic. That

1085
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 2: sounds neat and tidy and I love that. So that

1086
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: was that was how I did it.

1087
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 3: Your doula must have been through many of those a

1088
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 3: thousand berths and has a relationship with the success of it, right,

1089
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 3: And that's why she was, Hey, you should do this.

1090
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. She was like, this is a no brainer.

1091
00:44:59,560 --> 00:44:59,959
Speaker 1: You must.

1092
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 3: Why do you think that is.

1093
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: Because we lose hormones.

1094
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,879
Speaker 2: We lose so many hormones and they all go into

1095
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 2: the placenta and then that gets taken away. And if

1096
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: you look at animals, they eat their placent the mom

1097
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: eats the percenta afterwards. I don't know why somehow we

1098
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: stopped doing it.

1099
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 3: I guess because should I eat it? They're not my hormone?

1100
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: No, they're not. No, No, you don't eat it. She

1101
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 1: does oh, oh my gosh.

1102
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 3: I thought you were telling me to eat it.

1103
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: No, men don't have postpartum depression.

1104
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, but we both. No, no, this is

1105
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 3: how uneducated I am.

1106
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: No, that would be selfish in fact, for you to

1107
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 2: have it. No, no, no, she needs it, she needs it.

1108
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. I thought no, no, no, no, no no, no,

1109
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 2: you should not give them to her. No, because her

1110
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,880
Speaker 2: body has just been through something incredible and completely draining.

1111
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 2: Your body gets you're you're like functions are sidelined that

1112
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: maybe gets so big.

1113
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 1: How many weeks is she now?

1114
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 3: A lot?

1115
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 2: Okay, So when I was in my eighth month, I'm

1116
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: laying on the couch like I could barely get up,

1117
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: thinking like I couldn't take deep breaths either, you know,

1118
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 2: because if you look at the what it looks like

1119
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 2: the baby takes up all the space, Like where are

1120
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 2: the lungs, where's the stomach? What's happening? I remember saying

1121
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: I feel like a beached whale in distress. I don't

1122
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 2: want to forget what this is, because this is this

1123
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 2: is pinpointing exactly how I'm feeling a beached whale in distress,

1124
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: which is just trying to breed and survive and wait

1125
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: until the thing is ready to come out.

1126
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 3: I think for me a wonderful tool has been animations

1127
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: on TikTok because it will show you, well, it shows

1128
00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 3: you everything right. First of all, it does the thing

1129
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: that I've always heard, like comparing it to different fruits

1130
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 3: and vegetables, and yes.

1131
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 2: The size.

1132
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 3: Well, what I have found for me to be very

1133
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 3: helpful is it shows what it does to the other

1134
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 3: organs in my wife's body as it displaces all of them.

1135
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: And for me to see that in a cartoon form, Listen,

1136
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 3: I don't feel it, so I don't act like I do,

1137
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,800
Speaker 3: but it gives me an understanding of what she's probably

1138
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: going through because it shows that baby's in there and

1139
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: all your organs are getting shelved up. And I know

1140
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 3: everybody else knows this. I think everybody probably knew the

1141
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 3: woman only at the percenta.

1142
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: I didn't know that a lot of people don't even

1143
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 2: think you about eating a percenta like it's weird or

1144
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 2: you know, gross or whatever. That's why I did the

1145
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 2: placenta pills, because I figured the is called placenta encapsulation.

1146
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 3: Would you have eaten the whole thing if she'd have

1147
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 3: given it to you right then.

1148
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I probably would have.

1149
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 3: Do you think it was really that good? If you like,

1150
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 3: if you were to eat it now, I think it'd

1151
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 3: be that good. Or is it because of where you're No,

1152
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: I think it's no.

1153
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 1: You know, like, when you need something, it tastes better.

1154
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 3: For sure.

1155
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: I've experienced that many times. So I am absolutely positive

1156
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 2: that that and that's why I said, oh, we're supposed

1157
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 2: to have this. No, I don't think that normally I

1158
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: would have any interest in how this.

1159
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: Sounds awful, But I don't know. Maybe it does taste

1160
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 3: so good. There's like a placent of market out there.

1161
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 3: People gett murdered. Just ssh.

1162
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: Why why would you say something that is the darkest.

1163
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: Was horrible but it tastes so good though.

1164
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: Pregnant woman to get there?

1165
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: Okay? No, Instead what you could have said, what you

1166
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 2: could have said is there could be a market out

1167
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 2: there for women whose placentas are discarded because most of

1168
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 2: them probably are in the hospital.

1169
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 3: I like that better.

1170
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1171
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 3: I like that more too, Mark, That's way better.

1172
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: That's what we're going to go with.

1173
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 3: Yes, that is that is. Yeah.

1174
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: One more thing I want to say about being pregnant.

1175
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: I would love No, I love this, Okay.

1176
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 2: So I give a lot of speeches in my career

1177
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 2: about like math. People bring me in to talk about

1178
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 2: women empowerment and why women should go into math and

1179
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: stem and all sort of stuff. And there's this thing

1180
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 2: that is an elephant in the room that I that

1181
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 2: I never want to disregard, which is that like, well,

1182
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: there's a stereotype of women not being the smartest men.

1183
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: And where's I come from?

1184
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: Is it really just because men hit them over the

1185
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 2: head with a club someday and they're physically stronger and

1186
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 2: they told them, oh, you're not as smart. I don't think.

1187
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: So there's studies and things, but here's here's what I

1188
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: discovered when I was pregnant. When you are pregnant, your

1189
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: brain is not your own. Your body deprioritizes your brain

1190
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 2: and you can't remember where you put the frozen raspberries

1191
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: like I have. I literally put frozen raspberries and the

1192
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,279
Speaker 2: utensil drawer ones when I was pregnant, And I'm like, what, like,

1193
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 2: your your brain your brain fog in a way that

1194
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 2: you never had before because your body is prioritizing all

1195
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: this energy to creating this human being, it's it's for

1196
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 2: the survival or species. Then after that you are staying

1197
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: up all night breastfeeding, not getting good sleep. There's this haze,

1198
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 2: this you know, having a newborn, haze, having a baby.

1199
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: And then if you think about for a long time,

1200
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: for most of history, women many women would go from

1201
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: pregnancy to pregnancy from say twenty to forty. Well, those

1202
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: are the formative years you're building your family. You're not

1203
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 2: the one who should be making the logical decisions maybe

1204
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 2: for important you know, life moves. If your brain is

1205
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 2: feeling like that. Now, maybe not everyone gets like that,

1206
00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: but I think most women do to some extent. So

1207
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,359
Speaker 2: I believe that's where the stereotype came from. And then

1208
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 2: that's where you have the stereotype of the wise older woman,

1209
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 2: because guess what, she's not.

1210
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: Having babies anymore.

1211
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 2: She can think again, she has her brain again. So

1212
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 2: I believe this is where it's come from. And because

1213
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 2: but now that's outdated, because most women don't spend most

1214
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 2: of their adult years of the prime of their life

1215
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: having babies the whole time. So I just want to

1216
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 2: put that out there for all women who are like

1217
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,479
Speaker 2: pregnant and feeling like they don't have their brain. You don't.

1218
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: You don't.

1219
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: Your baby has your brains.

1220
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 3: And it makes sense because your body is doing something

1221
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: else that it feels like it's priority.

1222
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, yes, yes, that's it's an incredible job. It's such

1223
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: an honor to be able to have a child.

1224
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: I wanted more.

1225
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 2: We tried for more, it didn't happen, and then I

1226
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: got remarried and we tried and it didn't happen.

1227
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: I have one.

1228
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: We're extra close, which is amazing. But I think being pregnant,

1229
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: having a baby, raising a child is the most beautiful

1230
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 2: thing that you can do, the most challenging, wonderful, beautiful

1231
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 2: thing you can do.

1232
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited and scared, nervous and all. Yeah, right,

1233
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 3: I don't even know, but I know that I don't know,

1234
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 3: so I think that helps me a little bit. Like

1235
00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 3: I was in therapy. I was talking to my therapist

1236
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: the other day, and I tend to stay hyper focused

1237
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 3: and put a lot of energy and attention into things

1238
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,719
Speaker 3: that are coming up. I'm fixated with my schedule. I'm

1239
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 3: always worried I'm going to be late, and he's like, you,

1240
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 3: you can only control that so much. But you're so

1241
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 3: worried about it. You have all this energy you're wasting

1242
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,319
Speaker 3: because you're worried you're gonna oversleep to miss your show.

1243
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 3: You're worried you're going to And then he asked me

1244
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 3: about having a baby, and I was like, I'm not

1245
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 3: worried because I know it's going to be hard and

1246
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 3: I know so whatever happens, I've had some really hard

1247
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 3: things happened in my life and I've figured it out,

1248
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 3: and I feel like this is going to be one

1249
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,359
Speaker 3: of those. I'm going to mess up. I'm going to

1250
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 3: do things great. And he said, look what you're doing,

1251
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 3: You're able to do that, So why not take the

1252
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 3: thing that you're doing. Why not put that into your

1253
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 3: everyday life. Like you've gotten through every day ten thousand

1254
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 3: times and you've come out okay, and there have been

1255
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: hard things. And it was like, wow, yeah, he makes

1256
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: a great point. He should get paid for this. That's

1257
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 3: what I thought.

1258
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, wait, I do Yeah, take quite a bit.

1259
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 3: Yeah so that's great.

1260
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: Oh that's wonderful.

1261
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you.

1262
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:55,399
Speaker 5: Let's take a quick pause for a message from our sponsor. Wow,

1263
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 5: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

1264
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 3: The final questions I'm gonna ask you. It's a segment

1265
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 3: that I do pretty much every show, but I want

1266
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 3: to know when you sit down to do an interview

1267
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 3: the three questions that you are asked them most. And

1268
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 3: if I did ask them, I'll take it on the chin.

1269
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 3: But I want to know when you sit down, you

1270
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 3: know you're going to get asked these three questions. What

1271
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 3: are they?

1272
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 2: Well? How did you get into acting as one?

1273
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,879
Speaker 3: I felt like I had to ask totally.

1274
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 2: I know you, yes, why did you choose Math of

1275
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 2: all things?

1276
00:52:24,120 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: And what was it like being in the Wonder Years?

1277
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 3: How do you answer that one? Though that's such a.

1278
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. People just want they want to They

1279
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 2: just they're fan of the show and they just want

1280
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: to end somehow. I don't and and and I and

1281
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 2: a lot of things that I said would have been

1282
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 2: part of my answer, Like at the time, I didn't

1283
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:42,319
Speaker 2: know the show was so big. It was a lot

1284
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 2: of fun. It was work. I was going back and

1285
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 2: forth between school and set. It was an amazing experience

1286
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:50,919
Speaker 2: you have had. The fans are amazing and I love

1287
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: I love the aftermath. It's incredible, like having friends everywhere

1288
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,399
Speaker 2: I go and just you know, oh, and then it's

1289
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: actually a question I used to always get asked, but

1290
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 2: I haven't in a while now. But it was just

1291
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 2: to be always was that really your first kiss on

1292
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: the first episode?

1293
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 3: I felt like that'd be creepy to ask as an

1294
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 3: adult to another adult.

1295
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: I got it, but it was my first kiss on

1296
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: camera on camera, but the one that you see was

1297
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: the sixth take, and the reason I know and that

1298
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 2: was the final take, and the reason I know that

1299
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: is because it was the only one where he started

1300
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: stroking my hair afterwards.

1301
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 3: Then can ask you a weird question?

1302
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:24,840
Speaker 2: Sure?

1303
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 3: Were you guys ever boyfriend and girlfriend as kids?

1304
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 2: No?

1305
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: But we had a.

1306
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 2: Crossing each other and I actually have a letter, a

1307
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: love letter that Fred Roy from the first after we

1308
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 2: did the pilot.

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00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 3: Then why were you never boyfriend girlfriend?

1310
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, because we should have just said And

1311
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 2: then next thing I know, he's like, here you pull

1312
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 2: my finger.

1313
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 1: You know, it just wasn't It was just different. It

1314
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 1: was brother and sister.

1315
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: Pretty quickly, I'd ask you one more kind of weird question.

1316
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 3: This is just as many questions you want. No, No,

1317
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 3: I didn't think of it. Did you ever have a

1318
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 3: celebrity boyfriend?

1319
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: Yes? Jeremy Miller who was on Growing Pains. So and

1320
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: I was like fourteen fifteen years old during that relationship,

1321
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 2: so that was he was on Growing Pains.

1322
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: I was on the Wonder Years.

1323
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: We would see each other at these like ABC affiliate

1324
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 2: parties and things, and yeah, we started dating. I mean

1325
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 2: it was like we'd hold hands and kiss.

1326
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,280
Speaker 3: It wasn't anything, was he ben sever He was, Yes,

1327
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 3: I love Growing Pains. Yes, yeah, yes, yeah, all right.

1328
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 3: I think that's all my creepy questions.

1329
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:23,959
Speaker 1: I'm glad this is great.

1330
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 3: This was that should be a whole sec to do

1331
00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 3: creepy questions. Question save it for the very end so

1332
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: the person can leave it if they want to. Great, Dany,

1333
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 3: this has been awesome.

1334
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

1335
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much. And then the website for

1336
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 3: your books again.

1337
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 2: Is mckellermath dot com. All right, and I'm on social

1338
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 2: media everywhere just at danik and mckeller Instagram, Facebook, X.

1339
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 3: Does anybody ever yell Winnie Cooper going through the airport?

1340
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: Yes, but you know what it used to basically only

1341
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 2: be that now is Winnie Cooper. I love your math

1342
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: books and the Christmas movies. Yeah, Hallmark or Great American Family.

1343
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: I've done both.

1344
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 3: Oh so homework's on a bad word.

1345
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 2: No, no, no.

1346
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 1: I was at homework for like seven years.

1347
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 3: I thought I was getting scolded. No no, no, no, okay, God,

1348
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 3: so we don't have to believe that there, no.

1349
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: But for years now I've had a deal with Great

1350
00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,439
Speaker 2: American Family, so I'm exclusive with them, and I write

1351
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 2: and produce and star in movies.

1352
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: I have like a guarantee and stuff.

1353
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 3: So okay, yeah, Great.

1354
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: American is all.

1355
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 2: And the other thing I will say that we didn't

1356
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:21,919
Speaker 2: touch on at all.

1357
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: Which is fine.

1358
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 3: It's not fine. So what is it?

1359
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: It's my faith journey.

1360
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 3: Okay.

1361
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: So for the last three and a half years that

1362
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: is when I discovered my relationship with God. It's a

1363
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: completely like it was unexpected. My friend Kennice caaren Bray

1364
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: brought me to church, and Great American Family leans towards faith.

1365
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 2: So I've been able to in exploring this faith journey

1366
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 2: on in my life, also getting to explore it on

1367
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 2: the page in the scripts that I'm writing for them,

1368
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,480
Speaker 2: and it's been such an amazing gift. And it's that

1369
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: timing is God's timing right, Where what are the chances

1370
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 2: that I would end up in an overall deal a

1371
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,959
Speaker 2: great American family channel who's been you know, leaning more sources,

1372
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: and also discover my own relationship with God. My dad

1373
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:06,399
Speaker 2: found Jesus when he was in his forties and tried

1374
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 2: to get me over. At the time, I was like,

1375
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 2: and I'm so happy, that's great for you. I'm leave

1376
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 2: in some sort of higher power thing.

1377
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: I don't know what.

1378
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 2: But then it all crystallized for me and I can't

1379
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,000
Speaker 2: even explain it. It's just been this gift and it

1380
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 2: brings me so much joy and I don't worry about

1381
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 2: things like I used to. That's the main thing I

1382
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: don't feel like, because because when you pay attention, you

1383
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 2: start to feel God's hand and things and you're like,

1384
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 2: oh wait, there's a bigger plan. I can make my

1385
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: plans and I can try and do my best, but

1386
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it's not actually up

1387
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: to me to figure it all out.

1388
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,080
Speaker 1: And it's such a relief.

1389
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: It takes the burden off and it has made my

1390
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: life so much more joyous.

1391
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 3: I hosted a show with Candace Cameron Beret. She was lovely, delightful,

1392
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 3: super fun and warm to be around.

1393
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, just kids, what show? Is it.

1394
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 3: It was owen wards show. Okay, yeah, we did it.

1395
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,760
Speaker 3: We hosted it together. She was awesome.

1396
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's great. She's a good friend.

1397
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 3: And you never know, you never know how somebody is

1398
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 3: going to be when you never met him because they

1399
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 3: cold matched us up. Okay, and then I'm like, all right,

1400
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 3: here we go, let's me a full house. It's gonna

1401
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 3: be pretty cool. Yeah yeah, And then it was awesome.

1402
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 3: She was she was super kind. Yeah to friends, it

1403
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 3: will pass her along my best. Then I think we

1404
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 3: still follow each other on social media, but I don't

1405
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: really DM women even to go like have a good

1406
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 3: day or it's good. But next time you talk to her, say, hey,

1407
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 3: remember that guy Bobby, the kind of nerdy guy with

1408
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 3: the glasses. He said really nice things about you. Dan.

1409
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 3: I can thank you so much. This has been awesome.

1410
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 2: Thank you too, Thanks

1411
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 3: For listening to a Bobby cast production.