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Speaker 1: great two time Super Bowl champion quarterback of the New

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Speaker 2: So lean in.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you're here. Well, thank you the great Eli

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Speaker 1: so many things that are so fun about this conversation

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Speaker 1: to me, one of which is that you're doing one

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Speaker 2: Day in and day out. I think I think you

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Speaker 2: the quarterback. I think a lot of your hits are

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Speaker 2: You're kind of throwing your in a bad position. Someone

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Speaker 2: I think you're so you're so focused and on those

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's funny because you led me right

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Speaker 1: And uh, you did not see the catch live? You

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Speaker 1: It was with drama. There was there was no drama

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, papers got hosted. I was just like an

432
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Speaker 2: executive producer whatever that means on the show. But yeah,

433
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,720
Speaker 2: College Ball it's I don't know if they're doing another season.

434
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 2: They've had two seasons of it so far. Two seasons, right.

435
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: I did a movie called Diner many many years ago,

436
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 1: and in that movie, it took place in the I

437
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,320
Speaker 1: think nineteen sixty one. I am sitting there all alone

438
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Speaker 1: in my apartment. There's a scene where I'm sitting there

439
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 1: all alone in my apartment and I'm watching College Bowl.

440
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 1: And that just shows you how long that show has

441
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: been on the air. The movie, it was a period

442
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 1: piece and I'm yelling at the television and saying, you

443
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Speaker 1: get the wrong answer. I like, this character gets the

444
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,200
Speaker 1: answer before everybody else. And it was just this weird

445
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: thing where, you know, I never really understood the scene.

446
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 1: I didn't understand and like why it was why people

447
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 1: liked it, but people had this great reaction to it

448
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: because they felt like it showed that the character was

449
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 1: smart and that you didn't really get that and any

450
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: of the other scenes. So how did you do?

451
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: Were you?

452
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: Were you a contestant or were I never?

453
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Speaker 2: I never went all. This was kind of for college

454
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 2: college kids, uh, and an opportunity for them to earn

455
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 2: some you know, scholarships and for them to compete against

456
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 2: each other in a in like a quiz show type deal.

457
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: So I just, uh, it was actually fun being both

458
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: my brothers were on it together and I just got

459
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 2: to I got to watch and analyze and to tell

460
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: tell them my thoughts. So now that's what was good

461
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 2: or bad. So I don't know if they listened to

462
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 2: any of them, but it was fun critiquing my two

463
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 2: older brothers in a show and you know, talking about

464
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: what they did wrong or their mistakes.

465
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: Nice.

466
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:56,360
Speaker 2: I like it.

467
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Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned that in the broadcast you get to

468
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: stay in at home and your brother stays at home

469
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 1: or stays where he lives. Did what was the road

470
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: like for you? Because how many years were you? Were

471
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 1: you in the NFL?

472
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: Sixteen years?

473
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: Sixteen years?

474
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Speaker 3: Right?

475
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: I mean that's sixteen years of being on the road,

476
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: and I'm just curious, like for a lot of reasons,

477
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 1: the just the toil of you know, like like I

478
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:32,640
Speaker 1: can tell you, you know, in certain terms, that hotels no

479
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,520
Speaker 1: longer hold any kind of interest to me. The first

480
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: time I ever went in one, I was like, this

481
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: is the greatest thing. You know, I don't have to

482
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: do my laundry or whatever it is. You know, somebody

483
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: makes the bed. But now I there's no romance left

484
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: for me in terms of that, And so I'm just

485
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: wondering what that's like for sixteen years and on your

486
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: your family and the whole thing.

487
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think I think football is different than

488
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: a lot of other sports. Is really our weeks are

489
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 2: exactly the same every week, and it really really difference.

490
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,199
Speaker 2: If you're if you're at home, you stay at a

491
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 2: hotel Saturday night and you have to be there, you know,

492
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 2: around six or seven o'clock, and you play the game

493
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: the next day and you're you know, you're kind of

494
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,200
Speaker 2: back home with your family around you know, four thirty

495
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: five o'clock and you get to be with them. If

496
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 2: you're if you're on away game, you leave, you know,

497
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: you have practice Saturday morning, you leave around one o'clock

498
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,080
Speaker 2: and you basically come back right after the game on Sunday,

499
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 2: so you know, you're on you're a gone really Saturday

500
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: night of the week, and the rest of the week

501
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 2: is you know, very schedule your practice at the same

502
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: time every day you meet. You're kind of home around

503
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 2: the same time for dinner. So it's a pretty good,

504
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 2: uh family life situation. I mean, you're you're you're gone

505
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 2: during the day and you're still going on the weekends

506
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: a little bit. But your family is can you know,

507
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,719
Speaker 2: come come to the game and watch you on Sunday,

508
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 2: which is exciting. So uh, it's different from baseball or basketball,

509
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: where you might have these two week road trips. Right

510
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: you're traveling around and really away from the family. So uh,

511
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: training camp is the only time training camp you're you're

512
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: you You go away for like a you know, three

513
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: weeks to a month. A lot of times you're in

514
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 2: a dorm room and you're together in trade binding. That

515
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: was kind of the hardest time. Once you start having

516
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: young kids and and you know, tell the life all right,

517
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 2: I'll see I'll see in a month. Good good luck,

518
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: all right, you know you can figure it out.

519
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, well except for the fact that, I mean, you're

520
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go and live some place where

521
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: you get drafted, and that, right is that's kind of

522
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: a fascinating thing. You don't, I don't. I don't see

523
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: people talking about that that much. I mean, I'm sure

524
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 1: that I don't know, is there is there what? What

525
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: would you say is a stronger pull the place, uh

526
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: or the team or the conference or the or the

527
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: legacy or what what? What? What? Or where?

528
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: What?

529
00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,600
Speaker 1: What are the what are the what where the coach?

530
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: You know?

531
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: It's tough. Yeah, I mean I think you like, as

532
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 2: you said, you don't have a choice, like you get

533
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 2: you get drafted, you go wherever you're going. I think

534
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 2: you know you're excited to play play football. For me,

535
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 2: I was excited to come to the to the Giants

536
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 2: just because they're a you know, just a great organization,

537
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: been on the original teams, they've been around for so long,

538
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 2: great ownership. You know. I knew coach Coughlin was gonna

539
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 2: be the head coach. He was coming into his first year,

540
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: so I just I knew a lot about the history

541
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: of the Giants and what they stood for and and

542
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,119
Speaker 2: you know, really was excited to come to this organization,

543
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 2: come to New York. But you know it is different

544
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, yeah, you're twenty three

545
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 2: years old. You're like, all right, you're moving to New

546
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: Jersey where they practice. You can you know, go go

547
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: find an apartment, go figure it out and start your life.

548
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: And so, you know, lucky to have my mom. My

549
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,360
Speaker 2: mom was very helpful in that. Like I was like, well,

550
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,239
Speaker 2: what just finding a place to live. I was all

551
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 2: of a sudden, you come up here and I'm like,

552
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 2: I'm in practice all day. I'm trying to learn this playbook.

553
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm trying to, you know, figure out how to be

554
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: a quarterback at this level. I don't have time to

555
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: figure out, you know, where am I, Where am I

556
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,120
Speaker 2: going to live? How do I get a bed? How

557
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 2: do I you know, get a sofa and TV? So

558
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 2: fortunately have my mom come up and kind of you know,

559
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 2: handle handle that for me and listen. You know, I

560
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: think you try to do so much as a young

561
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: player where you can just focus on football and focus

562
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 2: on trying to you know, you's got drafted a lot

563
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,239
Speaker 2: of pressure're you know, first first picking the draft, You're

564
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: coming to this, you'll be the quarterback. You You've got

565
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 2: these you know, these great athletes and and you Michael

566
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 2: straighthand and Tiki Barber and these guys that you you

567
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 2: don't want to disappoint them. And you've got to try

568
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: to raise your level play real quickly to get where

569
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 2: you can be successful and win games and and and

570
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: you know, uh kind of please the crowd and the organization,

571
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: and so you want to you know, be totally committed

572
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 2: to that and and not have to worry about anything

573
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 2: outside of football.

574
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Speaker 1: We have the great coach Tom Coughlin with us today,

585
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: which is absolute honor. Tom. Thank you so much for

586
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 1: joint You guys know each other, right, Oh yeah.

587
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got some great stories for you too, Kevin

588
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: fire Away, coach. I gotta tell you this because I

589
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: get a video. I think Archie's son it to me,

590
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 3: it might have been Eli's sonate to me one time.

591
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: This tells you how Eli grew up. So the video goes,

592
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 3: Archie's got the camera and you had Cooper and Peyton

593
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: out by the basketball who you know, threw the throw

594
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: the basketball up and horse and around with each other

595
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: and they're just little guys. Out comes Olivia with Eli's

596
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: just a little baby. He's a few months old. So

597
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 3: the next thing you see, Archie's got the camera and

598
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 3: the two brothers are even Eli back and forth.

599
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 1: They're dropping and passing.

600
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

601
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: You know?

602
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 3: The next day ringing up to Eli, you know, wait

603
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: a few years ago or whenever this happened, and he goes, yeah,

604
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 3: I wanted to thank my dad for how we got

605
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: the out yard and he's the camera man, and these

606
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 3: guys are even me around the parking lot.

607
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: Oh god, did they put it? Did they at least

608
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: put a helmet on them?

609
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: Or no? No, no helmet, no helmet. H I remember

610
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: telling my dad was like, hey, Dad, you did think

611
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: about maybe putting the camera down for a little bit

612
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: as I'm being tossed around between two people, was like, no, no,

613
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: this was this could be in a documentary one day.

614
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: Let me need to catch this live footage, like it's

615
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: not this is great stuff.

616
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: And where can we see that footage?

617
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: Coach?

618
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: Do you do you have that footage? Can you share

619
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: it with us?

620
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 2: Please?

621
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: You have to dig that out.

622
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that is amazing. So but that's interesting. So, uh,

623
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: you were already aware of him from his infancy when

624
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 1: when he came to the Giants?

625
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: Is that correct?

626
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't see that picture till after.

627
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: Oh it wasn't until after. Oh I thought maybe you were.

628
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: You were in communication with Archie from from from the beginning.

629
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Speaker 2: Now okay, well no, not quite.

630
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Speaker 1: Ok Had you been tracking his career? Is his college career?

631
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 3: Oh yeah absolutely? Uh yeah, hey his career at all?

632
00:31:54,680 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 3: Miss but Ernie Corsi, who actually drafted Eli, Ernie, he

633
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 3: followed him troums from day one, and I'll never forget.

634
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: We went to New Orleans or his for Eli's workout, Okay,

635
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 3: and it was at the Saints indoor facility.

636
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: And this is the.

637
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: Difference between Bade and Eli. Archie telling me the store

638
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: so Archie says, yeah, he gets a hold of Eli. Supposedly,

639
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 3: maybe the workouts at one o'clock and the whole NFL

640
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 3: is that the whole place is full enough. But scouts,

641
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: head coaches, general managers, everybody's there waiting to watch this

642
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: guy work out. So you get, this is Archie telling

643
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 3: me the store. He said, I give I'm looking around.

644
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 3: I don't see Eli. So I called Eli on the

645
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: phone and I said, this is Eli, this is Archie.

646
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: Where are you? Where the heck are you Elio? It's

647
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,239
Speaker 3: twelve thirty at a one o'clock workout, he said, Dan,

648
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: the workouts at one. I stopped to have something to

649
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: eat before it came to don't work.

650
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: They said, of Peyton.

651
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 3: If it was Peyton, Ayton would have been there selling program.

652
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 3: It was at ten o'clock the morning. But that's that

653
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 3: was the difference.

654
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: That was the difference.

655
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: Everybody not Lad.

656
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 3: He's he's hungry, he's starving. Yeah, I'm watching. And he

657
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 3: gets to the place and he's got four or five

658
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: guys that he was working out with as receivers, and

659
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: he comes in and you know, he's a little shy,

660
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: and he's kind of he throws a couple of passes

661
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 3: on the sideline, he goes out. He puts on the

662
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: best demonstration of passing that I had ever been around.

663
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 3: Everything he can imagine, with a bunch of guys he

664
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 3: didn't play with, but he worked out a little bit.

665
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 3: These guys may have caught the ball for him.

666
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: That's happening.

667
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: That was Eli's pro debut, this pro workout.

668
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: Can you tell me, Eliu, because I want to throw

669
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: a ball like that? What did you have for lunch?

670
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: Do you remember him?

671
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: Sort of? Yeah, probably I was down in New Orleans,

672
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 2: so probably like a big old shrimp poe boy. It's

673
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: really it really sits well, you know, a bunch of

674
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 2: private food and bread. When you're when you're twenty two

675
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 2: years old, you don't think about you know, at that

676
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: you know, twenty twenty some id years ago, you didn't

677
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 2: think about diet or eating something you know that might

678
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 2: affect your performance. But yeah, so things would change a

679
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 2: little bit. But yeah, New Orleans probably, Yeah, I think

680
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 2: a shrimp poe boy from Don Alisis is probably they

681
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: go to there you go.

682
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: I love hearing that, so it brings up a good

683
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: question for both of you. You mentioned, you know, the

684
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: first thing I thought of when you had a shrimp

685
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 1: Poe boy, was that that would be a situation where

686
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: I would certainly be nervous. I mean, it is essentially,

687
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: you know, an audition, right, It is essentially a It's

688
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: it's like it's like the audition for the big show

689
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: or the big movie. You're meeting the big director, and

690
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, coach, do you, if you're looking at a player,

691
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 1: do you look at nerves as being part of the

692
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: skill set of how to handle the nerves being part

693
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: of what you need to play in the NFL?

694
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, in this situation, it's how do you handle the

695
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: circumstances that you're in? Yeah, you know, you've got the

696
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: whole NFL there. It's a like you say, it's a

697
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 3: big deal now, you know. Maybe you go away saying,

698
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 3: if you're looking at a quarterback, you know, he didn't

699
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 3: throw the outcut very well, the comeback was a strained

700
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 3: throw for him, or you know, he didn't seem to

701
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 3: react well after. You know, he missed a couple of

702
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: balls and so on and so forth. So you're watching,

703
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 3: You're watching all this, you're taking it all in. You

704
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 3: know what kind of an athlete, does he how does

705
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 3: he work with people that he really just barely knows

706
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 3: these guys, you know, how does he handle that? How

707
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 3: do they react? You know, the whole deal. He gets

708
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: a little time with people afterwards to talk to them,

709
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 3: so you get a little bit more information out of them.

710
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 3: But in general, how does he approach it? How does

711
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,480
Speaker 3: he handle it? And then you know, when when it's

712
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: time to go, when it's time to start, what do

713
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 3: you have to prove yourself?

714
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: How do you do m right?

715
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: Fascinating? I guess you just get a chance to let's

716
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: kind of look at those signs and and and just

717
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: try to get a read on that. I mean, I again,

718
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: I keep thinking about you know, sometimes I've been on

719
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: the other side of the camera and you know, looking

720
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: at actors and auditions and trying to get past the

721
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: fact that it is an auditioned situation and that maybe

722
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: there's something that's there that I'm not seeing because they

723
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: are somehow you know, uh, nervous or shooting themselves in

724
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: the foot. But on the other on the other hand,

725
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: this is the big moment, so they got to be

726
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: able to step up. So it's a it's a it's

727
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,720
Speaker 1: a it's a it's a confusing kind of thing. What

728
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: was how would you guys categorize your working incredibly successful

729
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: working relationship during the time that you were at the

730
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: Giants With the.

731
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 3: Giants, Well, first of all, Eli was great with studying.

732
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: You know, he would while other people are off on

733
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: a Tuesday, he'd be in there already getting a head

734
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 3: start on the opponent. What the opponent. And that's basically

735
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 3: what I'm all about. The work ethic is very very

736
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,439
Speaker 3: important to me because I want to know. I want

737
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: to know if you're willing to buy into an act

738
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 3: as if you own or possess the franchise. This is

739
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 3: what I want. I want you to I want you

740
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 3: to take ownership of what you're doing. I want to see,

741
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 3: I want to see that it's really important to you.

742
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 3: I want to see that you make the little sacrifices

743
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: in order to be the best that you can be.

744
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 3: And that's really what you know, what what I was

745
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 3: all about was trying to get people to be the

746
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 3: very best thing that they could be. And you've already

747
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: mentioned a couple of things. You know, teamwork, it's all

748
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 3: about team. It's not about the individual. It's never about

749
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 3: the individual. It's always about the team because football, with

750
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: eleven people on the field, you put your trust to

751
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,280
Speaker 3: that guy next to you and he puts his trust

752
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: in you. Are you going to let him down? Are

753
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 3: you going to let everybody down? Because you didn't prepare properly.

754
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 3: So that's and it's not easy. You know, try it

755
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: over a seventeen eighteen week period where on Monday, you know,

756
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 3: these guys are, they're beat up. This is this is

757
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: not a game for the feint of heart. You know,

758
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 3: you want to stand on the sidelines and listen to this.

759
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: It's it's like whoa, It gets your attention. I mean,

760
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: it is all about the physicality of the game, even

761
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: from the quarterback position. So those are the kind of

762
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 3: things that that people must be able to to send

763
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 3: you those kind of vibes. Their consistency, their work ethic,

764
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: you know, the study as she goes. Because as I said,

765
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 3: it's it's not a game of you know, it's not

766
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 3: a marathon. It's not a sprint. It's a marathon.

767
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's let's go ahead, Eli.

768
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, Kevin, I learned quickly, you

769
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: know what what I had to do to be a

770
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 2: quarterback under under coach Coaulfland. And there's the first first week.

771
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,479
Speaker 2: I was not the starter of Kurt Warners, the starter

772
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: my rookie year. And he said, you know, after that

773
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: first game, he says, all right, every blitz at this,

774
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 2: you know, we played the egos, every blitz that the

775
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: Eagles did versus I want you to draw up those

776
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 2: blitzes versus our five main protections that we have in

777
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 2: past game and how you protect them and and do it.

778
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: And so they did, you know, maybe eight to ten blitzes,

779
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: and I drew up first each you know, for each

780
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: each protect So it's like kind of fifty drawings, and I,

781
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: you know, have it, have it out there, and I

782
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 2: handed into coach Cofflin. He graded it, and so all

783
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: of a.

784
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: Sudden, this was after the game.

785
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 2: This was after the game, after the game, kind of

786
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 2: after that next week, just so I learned about how

787
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 2: to set protections, how to do things. So the next

788
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 2: week we have another says I want you to do

789
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: it again. And so I just did it for that

790
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 2: second gig, you know that, or I just didn't in

791
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: preparation of the team we're about to play. And no, no,

792
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: you have to do both the games that they've played.

793
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 2: So I now I had to do one hundred, you know,

794
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: I did do. All of a sudden, it's like week eight,

795
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm handed in a four hundred you know, drawing deal

796
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: to coach golf, and in a few of them, I

797
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: kind of said, well, I can relax. He's like, there's

798
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: no way he's reading through all these protecting He's got

799
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 2: to worry about the starting quarterback. He's got to worry

800
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: about everything else going on being the head coach. Like

801
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 2: I'll kind of just like, you know, scribble through a

802
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: few of these and not do it. All of a sudden,

803
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 2: you know, he calls me in the office and it's like,

804
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: you know, what the hell is this? Like what is that?

805
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 2: This is not? This is yes, this is terrible, Like

806
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 2: what are you doing? So I learned quickly that, you know,

807
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: preparation was very important to him. Being five minutes early

808
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 2: was number one. Deal had to be five minutes early,

809
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: be well prepared, And you got to love what you're doing.

810
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: You gotta love the game of football. You have to

811
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 2: love you know that you know, do those things. If

812
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 2: you do those three things, you can play for this

813
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: man for a long time and you'll be on the

814
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: same page. And as a as an athlete, in a

815
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 2: professional athlete, that should be pretty easy. You think that'd

816
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 2: be pretty easy to handle those three things. And you

817
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 2: think if you amazin, how how you know some people

818
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: have a hard time have a hard time doing that.

819
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: Well, Coach Coaughlin, I can tell you that I was

820
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: before you signed in. I was struck with the fact

821
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: that I think, probably maybe for the first time since

822
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,840
Speaker 1: I've been doing this podcast, somebody actually showed up early.

823
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: And Eli told us that if he wasn't there five

824
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: minutes before, he was afraid you were going to find him.

825
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 2: I'm afraid I was that I get fined.

826
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: No, I mean today's no, I mean today, And I

827
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: don't know what the rate would be adjusted for inflation,

828
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: but I'm guessing it would probably be pretty hefty.

829
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 2: At this point, five hunder bucks that's the fine. Okay,

830
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: that's yeah, one minute later if I'm not five minutes early.

831
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: So, speaking of charity, Coach tell us about the J

832
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: fun Foundation and about how the story behind it.

833
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: Jay Fund was founded in nineteen ninety six in the

834
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: spirit and the name of j McGillis. J McGillis was

835
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 3: a strong safety for me. When I was the head

836
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 3: coach of Boston College, Jay unfortunately came down with leukemia

837
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: and we played, actually played in Syracuse. Came home after

838
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,799
Speaker 3: the game, Fraighter came to me and said, I don't

839
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: think Jay can play this week, and I said why not?

840
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: He said, well, he's you know, his throw a swollen

841
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 3: and he so on. I said, well, let's let's get

842
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: the doctor in here, less, get him, get him. Well,

843
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: it wasn't a sore throat, it wasn't some form of virus.

844
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 3: It was leukemia, and it was a ravaging form of leukemia.

845
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: By watching what Jay went through and what is family

846
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 3: went through, and going through that whole process, my wife,

847
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 3: Judy and I looked at each other and said, if

848
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: we ever get a chance to give back, it's going

849
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: to be in the name and the spirit of j McGillis.

850
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: And the way it came about is in the spring

851
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,439
Speaker 3: of that year before Jay passed, one of my linebackers

852
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: came to me and said, Coach, we've got to do

853
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: something to help the McGillis family. And I said, well,

854
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: sit down, Mike. It was Mike Panels. Sit down, Mike,

855
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: let's talk about it, and Mike was very close to

856
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 3: the family. What happens when you're given those words, those

857
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: terrible words, Your child has cancered. The family no longer

858
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: is able to function as they would want. If there

859
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 3: are two income family, one one parent has to withdraw

860
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: off from the job so that they can be the caretaker.

861
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 3: But in watching this, both parents were not working, bills

862
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 3: were being paid, you know, expenses were mounting, and the

863
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: McGillis family was going to be in trouble. So Mike

864
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 3: and I talked it through. We decided we would have

865
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 3: what we called a liftathon. The players went out into

866
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,360
Speaker 3: the community, they got pledges or in those days we

867
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: max lift at the end of spring practice. So we

868
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 3: had power clean, we had bench, we had squat and

869
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 3: they all went out and got pledges. And when they

870
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 3: came back and went through their lifts to conclude the

871
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: spring season, they had raised fifty thousand dollars and at

872
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 3: the spring game we presented the McGillis family with a

873
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 3: check for fifty thousand dollars. Now that started the wheels

874
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: in motion for me that if I could find a family,

875
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 3: if a family was in trouble, that I could help

876
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 3: a family who had a child with cancer that I

877
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 3: could help. We were going to do it, and I

878
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 3: was going to do it in in a practical way.

879
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 3: We're all about. The Jfund is about a roof over

880
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 3: their heads, food on their table, ass in their tank,

881
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 3: taking care of all the things that a family function

882
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 3: breaks down on when you have to be there for

883
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 3: the child. And I know this for a fact. The child,

884
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 3: no matter how old he or she is, knows when

885
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: a parents and a family is stressed, and when they're stressed,

886
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: they cannot give the attention that's needed to the child

887
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 3: so that the child heals. So that's what we have done.

888
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: Since nineteen ninety six, we have directly impacted over five thousand,

889
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: seven hundred families at twenty four million dollars of payments

890
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: to them just so that they can take care of

891
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 3: the necessities of life the other siblings. Who means so

892
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,799
Speaker 3: many of these kids have two and three brothers and

893
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: sisters that quite frankly get a little bit ignored because

894
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 3: the whole attention has to go to the sick child. Well,

895
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: this is where we come in too. We have sibling

896
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 3: programs and caregiver programs, all kinds of things that we

897
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: do throughout the course of the year to help the

898
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 3: entire family fight this tragic disease and get the child

899
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: to a point where the disease is cured. We know

900
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: it's not that way for life. You're always impeded in

901
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 3: some way because of the treatments. But you you get

902
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 3: past the actual cancer.

903
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 1: That's amazing. That's amazing, that's great. That that that that

904
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: you took that moment and turned it into that. I

905
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: want to ask both of you, that's the that's the

906
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 1: super specific story. Is there anything Let me put it

907
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:55,840
Speaker 1: this way. You could have had that experience and then gone, wow,

908
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 1: that's so sad, Okay, what's next, and not taken this

909
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: moment and created this foundation. You know, Eli, You've done

910
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different levels of giving back in

911
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: the course of your life and during your career in

912
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: the NFL. I know, I've often said for myself that

913
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: when I started out, the last thing I wanted to

914
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: think about was anything other than KB. I was so

915
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: just completely self focused on my career, on getting ahead

916
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: on all these kinds of things. And then there's kind

917
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: of becomes whether it's a single moment or or something

918
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: that's the groundwork is laid in your childhood, or you

919
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: have an event or something, sometimes people start moving in

920
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 1: another direction in terms of some of their time and

921
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 1: their resources and their fame and their power and all

922
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 1: the kind of thing. And that's really what this this

923
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: podcast has focused on. So, but I'm wondering from both

924
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: of you, starting with you, Eli, was there something early

925
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: on that laid the groundwork for you now having this

926
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: desire to do something positive in the world.

927
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was. It was when I was

928
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: in college. I was that old miss and we actually

929
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: had a you know, a team function where he said, Hey,

930
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: we're you know, ahole teams that go visit a children's

931
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 2: hospital or the hospital there and be kids there. And

932
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 2: I remember, you know, going in and it was just

933
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 2: me as like an eight year old kid. And I

934
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: go in there and I see him and he's, you know,

935
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: not feeling well. He's going through chemo therapy and has

936
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: cancer and the kid was just real quiet, and I

937
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: was in there. I didn't quite know what to say.

938
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: I'm trying to, you know, ask him what he likes,

939
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: if he plays any sports, with his favorite TV shows.

940
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm just not getting much. I'm getting these

941
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 2: little word work answers. And I remember kind of leaving

942
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: and going that didn't that didn't help. Like I think

943
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 2: the kid feels worse that I was in there, like

944
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: you know he did I signed an autograph for me,

945
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 2: you know, did it? You didn't seem really excited for

946
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: And I remember it was like a week later and

947
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: I saw one of the nurses that I didn't remember

948
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: seeing her, but she came up to me just so

949
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: as I was around campus or in downtown and oftor Misissippi,

950
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,280
Speaker 2: and she says, you know that little boy that you visit,

951
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: he's been talking about what a great visit that was.

952
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 2: Every doctor that's come into his room. He's got a

953
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: big smile to him about Eli Mannings, you know, signed

954
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 2: this autograph for me, showed me this picture. We talked

955
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 2: about sports and you know, my sisters and my brother

956
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: and our family, and he just she said, his spirit

957
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: and his attitude was completely different that next week. And

958
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 2: so right then it just hit me that you can

959
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 2: make a difference and and and not just on that,

960
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 2: but just some how you treat people and shaking a hand,

961
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: having a conversation with a child, but a sick child,

962
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 2: just you know, showing that you want to be there

963
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 2: with them, that you're you know, there's people out there

964
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 2: that care about them, that are thinking about them, that

965
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: are praying for can have a huge impact just their

966
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 2: out look and and their their mindset. And so that

967
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 2: was kind of the start of what, I need to

968
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 2: do this more and I need to go see, you know,

969
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: help out more. When I got up here to the

970
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 2: Giants and and I said, I need to make an

971
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: impact in this community and want to help out kids

972
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,280
Speaker 2: that are dealing with cancer and just help lift their spirits.

973
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: And that was kind of the beginning of it. And

974
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: then it says, well, now I want to I want

975
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 2: to raise money for it. I want to try to

976
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 2: find you know, make sure we're finding curious to heal

977
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 2: these kids, to make sure if they get cancer, they're

978
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: getting back home to their families, they're getting back to

979
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 2: their friend back to school, that they're gonna be kids again.

980
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 2: And that was kind of the start of of tackling

981
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 2: Kids cancer and getting that going, and that initiative is

982
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 2: just really raising money for for pediatric cancer research, UH

983
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: to get these kids back healthy.

984
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 3: And coach, I'll tell you all the impact, how how

985
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 3: the people like Eli impact and I have I have,

986
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: I have a story. So when I was with the Giants,

987
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 3: even here, when I was with the Jaguars, in the spring,

988
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: we would have we call Sunday Blitz, and it would

989
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,399
Speaker 3: mean that we would bring the cancer kids over through

990
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: the facility and their parents and their siblings come to

991
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: the facility and spend what a mouse to an afternoon

992
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 3: with us, and we would have them in the training

993
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 3: room and the trainers would tape the kids up, you know,

994
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 3: and we would take them the weight room. We'd have

995
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 3: some rookies performed for them in weight programs, and we

996
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 3: would take them in the in the facility and if

997
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 3: we if they could go through some obstacle courses and

998
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: do some things, we would do that, and then we

999
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 3: would take them down to the cafeteria. We'd have ice

1000
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 3: cream Sundays and hamburgers and hot dogs and whatever. So

1001
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 3: this one particular year, I was aware of the fact

1002
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 3: that there was a young boy who you know, was

1003
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: very very sick, he was close to dying, and he

1004
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 3: had one desire in life, and that was to be

1005
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: with Eli Manning. So the day of the Sunday Blitz,

1006
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 3: the young man and his dad he was sick and

1007
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 3: he was in the hospital, and we didn't think he

1008
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 3: was going to get out of the hospital to be

1009
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:12,879
Speaker 3: at the Sunday Blitz. So the afternoon went by and

1010
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 3: Eli was helping, you know, as we had players help

1011
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 3: with all this. Eli was helping. But it came the

1012
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 3: end of the day was five in the afternoon. Eli

1013
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 3: went home. So I'm walking from the indoor facility over

1014
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 3: to the main office facility and up comes the dad

1015
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 3: with his son, and he's carrying his son. They were

1016
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 3: in the hospital. He gets his son out of the hospital.

1017
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 3: He brings the little guy to the offices. But really

1018
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 3: the afternoon is over. I pick up the phone. I

1019
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: call Eli. He had gone home. So Eli gets in

1020
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 3: his car, he drives back. He spends about a half

1021
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 3: an hour with this little boy and his dad, and

1022
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: about a week later, the little boy passes away. I

1023
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,880
Speaker 3: get a letter from his dad telling me the greatest

1024
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 3: thing that ever happened to this little guy in his

1025
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 3: life was spending half an hour with Eli Manning. And

1026
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 3: that's what it means to these kids.

1027
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: When I tell them they're special.

1028
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: They are special because if the average kid can't have

1029
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 3: what what we're gonna do for you. We're gonna we're

1030
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 3: gonna expose you to a lot of things the average

1031
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: kid can't. But the idea of spending time that Eli

1032
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: Manning and a lot of our guys would spend time

1033
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 3: with these kids makes a huge impact on them.

1034
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: That is a beautiful, beautiful story. I would love to

1035
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: at this point hear the call to action? How can people.

1036
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 2: Help out?

1037
00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 1: How can where do people go? Any uh any plugs

1038
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: that anybody wants to make for any thing at this moment,

1039
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: I'm Mike, is yours?

1040
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 3: Well, we talk about this, show us your team, Tackle

1041
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 3: Kids Cancer, the TCJ Fund. We're in this together. We

1042
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 3: complement each other very well. Eli and his foundation, as

1043
00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: he said, we're they're trying to put an end to cancer,

1044
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 3: which we all want. Okay, the J Fund is of

1045
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 3: practical nature, and we work together and complement each other

1046
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 3: very well. But in so doing and talking about this,

1047
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 3: there's no doubt it's the t at TCJ Fund at

1048
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 3: Tackle Kids Cancer. And you know, contributions are what this

1049
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 3: is all about. It's about being able to be in

1050
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 3: a position to help. And so I would leave you

1051
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:53,760
Speaker 3: with that thought.

1052
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 1: Well, I hope that people listening to this will certainly

1053
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: be moved by the work that both you were doing.

1054
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: You know, children are everything, Uh, you know, and and

1055
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: you know, help out, donate, check out the check out

1056
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: the work, give what you can and uh and I

1057
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,640
Speaker 1: want to thank you guys so much for being here today.

1058
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: It's been fascinating conversation. It's not that often that we have, uh,

1059
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: two celebrities. Generally we have one celebrity and then the

1060
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 1: on the unsung hero who is running the foundation. But

1061
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: to have two major New York heroes is a very

1062
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: very is really an honor. And I'll just ask you this.

1063
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: We could cut this out. Was there ever a moment

1064
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: during those years where uh, you you just we're afraid

1065
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: to go to Boston.

1066
00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,399
Speaker 2: I don't get up there much even now, even now,

1067
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: I have a feeling I'm not going to get a

1068
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 2: warm welcome if I go up there. Coach, how about you?

1069
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 3: You know I was I was an assistant at Boston

1070
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 3: College for three years and the head coach for three years.

1071
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, of course, that's of course.

1072
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 3: I had a chance to be around Boston a little bit,

1073
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 3: but and still have many many friends of many connections

1074
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 3: and and my son in law played at Boston College.

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Speaker 3: My daughter Kate went to Boston College, so no, I have.

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Speaker 1: Even worse, even worse. Do you ever pick up the

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Speaker 1: phone coach and try to book a room there and

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Speaker 1: for some reason there's no there's no rooms in the

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Speaker 1: available in the entire Boston area. Thank you guys so much.

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Speaker 2: For being here.

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Speaker 1: I've had a blast, and everybody help help out if

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Speaker 1: you can't.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Devin.

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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, thanks for listening to another episode of Six

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Speaker 1: Degrees with Kevin Bacon. I enjoyed that. I hope you

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Speaker 1: did too. If you want to learn more about the

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Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin Jfund and all the work that they are

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Speaker 1: up to, head to their website tcjfund dot org. That's

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Speaker 1: tcjfund dot org. You can find all the links in

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Speaker 1: our show notes, and if you want to hear more,

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Speaker 1: make sure you subscribe to the show and tune into

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Speaker 1: the rest of the episodes. You can find Six Degrees

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