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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Batcheler Happy Hour's Golden Hour. We're back.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. Say hi, Kathy, Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: it's so great.

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Speaker 2: If you haven't listened to Wednesday's episode, please go give

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Speaker 2: it a listen. Susan and I decided to mix things

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Speaker 2: up a little bit this week, and we had so

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Speaker 2: much fun laughing.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how we still have a job.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, in case you missed it,

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Speaker 2: Susan's dialing old boyfriends that she had dates with.

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Speaker 3: He's getting love notes from the public. I'm jealous.

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Speaker 2: We are having a great time. So, Okay, today we're

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Speaker 2: going to do another round of some Friday fan fun questions.

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Speaker 2: But before we do that, Susan, okay, give it to us.

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Speaker 2: Let's go with the question of the day.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it topic for discussion. Okay, you ready?

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Speaker 1: Is it rude to not bring a gift to an

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Speaker 1: international destination wedding?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry, I cost you a fortune to

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Speaker 3: get there.

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Speaker 2: Oh guys, hello, this is in the day. Let's just

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Speaker 2: back it up. This is not a hard question to answer.

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Speaker 2: You bring a gift to a wedding or or in

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Speaker 2: caps you check out the registry and you send one.

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Speaker 2: So friends, when you're flying to Naples, Italy with your

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Speaker 2: carry on because you're too damn cheap to pay the

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Speaker 2: fifty bucks for a suitcase, send a gift out of

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Speaker 2: the registry before you go to the wedding. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: matter what international.

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Speaker 3: A wedding registry.

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Speaker 1: I am going to one in the Bahamas, and I'm

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Speaker 1: already thinking I have to give a cash gift.

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Speaker 3: Obviously I'm not carrying anything. Or you do registry, are

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Speaker 3: you sure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Positive?

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Speaker 2: Great? Then they want it's a lot of weddings now

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Speaker 2: they do cash for the honeymoon.

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Speaker 3: Well that would be on in that No, that's what

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Speaker 3: I looked for.

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Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Susan, Yeah, in your cheap ass carrying a

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Speaker 2: carry on so you don't have to pay for luggage.

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Speaker 3: I got check luggage and a gary on.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you do put the envelope in with the

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Speaker 2: check just you know they'll have a basket. But people

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Speaker 2: going to an international wedding give a gift. You give

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Speaker 2: a gift, whether it's an international wedding or a wedding

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Speaker 2: at the pizzeria down the street.

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Speaker 1: Can I bring how many people feel their destination weddings

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Speaker 1: for them to get there to share the day with them.

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Speaker 1: They shared a big expense and they feel like they

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Speaker 1: don't have to give a gift that.

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Speaker 2: So you know what, you know what those are people

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Speaker 2: thinking because of what I had to pay to get there.

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Speaker 3: But I'm still giving a gift.

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Speaker 2: I am telling you. People who think that are thinking

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Speaker 2: without the equipment to do the job. Start thinking. People,

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Speaker 2: you got invited to a wedding. Can I just tell

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Speaker 2: you what my real bugaboo is about wedding And this

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Speaker 2: happened to me at my daughter's wedding. If you have

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Speaker 2: it's per plate and it's not inexpensive because newsflash, weddings

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Speaker 2: and funerals they up charge food and flowers. Just saying

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Speaker 3: If a buffet wedding is expensive.

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, by the number of its per head.

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Speaker 2: So people who say I'm coming to your wedding. I

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Speaker 2: had a couple their neighbors. They're no longer friends, and

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Speaker 2: I hope they listen to this. They were invited to

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Speaker 2: my daughter's wedding and they had done this same thing

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Speaker 2: lost the money. Yeah, so I said to them, because

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Speaker 2: you know me, Susan, I say what I think. I said, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: don't do to me what you did to our friends.

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Speaker 2: If you say you're coming to the wedding, I expect

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Speaker 2: We'll be there. Yeah. And they came to the wedding

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Speaker 2: and then they oh, no, they came. They left right

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Speaker 3: Oops did they get.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they did, but I paid for

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Speaker 2: short answer here is, don't be cheap. Buy a wedding gift,

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Speaker 2: regardless of whether the wedding is international or down the street.

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Speaker 3: And if you say you're going to.

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Speaker 2: A wedding, go to the wedding unless you have fallen

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Speaker 1: On the topic, don't get carried away. It's just about

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Speaker 1: giving an international gift.

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Speaker 3: They'll move on. She's getting excited fastning.

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Speaker 2: It really made me angry about that. I don't believe

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Speaker 2: all right, all right, all right, so let's do some

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Speaker 2: fan questions now that Kathy's had to melt down. Here over,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to take.

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Speaker 3: The first one.

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Speaker 2: You need to breathe. Okay, Susan, we're going to get

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Speaker 2: into some fan questions, but first you're not going to

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Speaker 2: believe it. We have gotten an update from one of

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Speaker 2: our writers that wrote in a question and we answer.

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Speaker 2: We now have an update from them.

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Speaker 1: Yes we do. Oh boy, Okay, here goes Kathy and Susan.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for using my letter on your podcast. You

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Speaker 1: ladies rock. I am sixty seven year old Karen who

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Speaker 1: asked about my three year relationship. You made me feel

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Speaker 1: so good about where I am. Of course, you told

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Speaker 1: me to enjoy things the way they are. Since my

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Speaker 1: last letter to you, I had a birthday. George gave

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Speaker 1: me the prettiest ring ever, oh and told me how

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Speaker 1: much he appreciates me. He is a man of few words,

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Speaker 1: even so he does say he loves me, so his

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Speaker 1: words mean so much to me. I still love the

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Speaker 1: partnership of marriage, but I'm happy where I am. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: ladies for the fabulous advice. Love you both. Keep up

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Speaker 1: the fantastic work. This golden girl is counting on it.

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Speaker 2: Love Karen, Can I just say.

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Speaker 3: Said jealous again? You guys are killing me today.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute second. So we gave such good advice,

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Speaker 2: she's got.

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Speaker 3: A ring on her hand, she held.

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Speaker 2: Oh congrats, Karen. We're so happy for you.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I'm even happier that you wrote

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Speaker 1: this in and thank you everybody. If we do something

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Speaker 1: that helps, or maybe we did something that didn't help

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Speaker 2: So let me just give the listeners a little context

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Speaker 2: of what this was our In our episode be True

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Speaker 2: to You, Karen wrote in asking about her boyfriend, she

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Speaker 2: had been divorced for about twelve years and after being

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Speaker 2: this great guy and their only problem was that he

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Speaker 2: whatever advice we gave her, she's got a ring on

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Speaker 1: You know you love him just because he's not asking

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Speaker 2: She's got a ring she's got a ring.

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Speaker 3: But they were, they were together. Just enjoy it. You

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm wondering if he decided to marry her.

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Speaker 3: It's it's unbleautiful ring is all we know.

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Speaker 2: And that made she said, I still love the partnership

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Speaker 2: of marriage, but I'm happy where I am. So maybe

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Speaker 2: he gave her a ring. Karen, you'll have to give

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Speaker 3: Is it an engagement ring or a friendship though?

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Speaker 2: Who cares? She's happy where she is, Susan, what about us?

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Speaker 3: I can't you had too? I can't with you. I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry you met the guy in Marshall's Give me

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Speaker 2: a Break. It's two to one in the ninth.

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Speaker 3: On what happened there?

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Speaker 1: Kat I got nowhere, got right when he got me

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Speaker 1: in after four months? Yeah then yeah, we won't go there.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, it's really amazing when we do.

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Speaker 1: Here back from our listeners, Karen, we're so happy for you,

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Speaker 1: a little jealous and envious, but very heavy.

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Speaker 2: I love it. And to anyone whose question we've answered,

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Speaker 2: we really would love to hear from you. Know how

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Speaker 2: it's going. Keep us updated and all right, you ready

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Speaker 2: to start answering some questions? Sure? This one is from Catherine.

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Speaker 2: She spells her name the way I do. Hi, Susan

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Speaker 2: and Kathy. I loved you both on The Golden Bachelor

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Speaker 2: and have enjoyed listening to all of your podcasts and

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Speaker 2: advice that you've given to other people. My question is

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Speaker 2: I have decided not to. My three girlfriends from college

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Speaker 2: but it's getting tougher and tougher. I'm trying to find

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Speaker 2: I want to be involved in their lives and get

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Speaker 1: That's your choice to not have children, and that's fine,

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Speaker 2: For a while, I was just going to say, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's people who have children. It's just sort of the

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Speaker 2: natural evolution of life. You want to you think that

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Speaker 2: when you have children, you're going to talk about politics

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Speaker 2: and you know who's going to win the presidential race

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Speaker 2: and whatever. But the reality is you're busy about your kids,

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Speaker 2: and you know, mind sleeping through the night is yours.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just the natural course of events. I

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Speaker 1: Maybe ask them, like, plan something six weeks in advance

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Speaker 2: Besides doing I mean, I think the way you make

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Speaker 2: for some period of time it's going to be this way.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be kid centric, and you try to

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Speaker 2: set up a dinner or an and.

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Speaker 1: You want to get to know their children, So go

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean asked just the way it goes, all right.

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Speaker 1: I have one from anonymous Dear Susan and Kathy. First off,

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Speaker 1: I want to say how much I enjoy listening to

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Speaker 1: you too, and seeing the friendship you have since the

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Speaker 1: show ended has been the greatest thing since asking anyone

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Speaker 1: who says otherwise, can zip it?

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Speaker 1: We have something that's been on my mind recently, regarding

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Speaker 2: This is so easy for me. God, it doesn't matter

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Speaker 3: The second date, he told her. That's plenty of time.

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Speaker 3: You're being selfish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're just you're you're trying to blame your

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Speaker 2: All right, two.

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Speaker 3: Getting it easy. She does it easy. I'd be there

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Speaker 1: She should do nothing, and if it comes out, it

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Speaker 3: But you do nothing.

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Speaker 2: Stand Ali from Massachusetts. Enjoy the wedding. I hope it's

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Speaker 2: on Nantucket or Martha's vineyard or in Marblehead somewhere fabulous.

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Speaker 2: But say nothing, it really say nothing. It's not your business.

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Speaker 2: It's just not it's it's not your secret to tell.

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Speaker 3: You know, why would you tell me? Yeah? I will

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Speaker 1: And pray nobody says a word. Some things are better

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Speaker 1: left unseid exactly. Okay, I have another anonymous Hi, Kathy

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm sitting here, you know what? I was

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Speaker 2: God that I am not that age anymore.

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Speaker 3: I know, but how about how great her life is?

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Speaker 2: That I'm saying, she's got to you know.

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Speaker 2: You know I'm different. I would walk in hurt. It hurts.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, people come into your life sometimes

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Speaker 1: Always for a reason. Oh well, always for a reason.

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Speaker 2: People come into your life, always for reason. Always okay,

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Speaker 2: She doesn't have to go in and be a martyr,

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Speaker 2: Louise and Thelma so nice to see you, and walk

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Speaker 3: Thelma's first, of course, correct me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Susan and Kathy, how about that one, Kathy and

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Speaker 3: She don't talk to her.

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Speaker 1: Karma is a bitch.

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Speaker 3: It will come.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's karma this girl.

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Speaker 3: No, not for her, for that girl that started all this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what, their drama is going to continue,

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Speaker 2: It's just I know it's it sounds so simple, but Anonymous,

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Speaker 2: You're enjoying college. Just go to the wedding. Who knows,

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Speaker 1: Knowing that pain will never really go away, It'll always

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Speaker 2: But yes, but Susan, I think you can give people

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Speaker 1: Fly in, look good and have a great man on

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Speaker 2: Screw them And that that about wraps that question up. Okay, Susan,

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Speaker 3: I don't kathy.

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Speaker 2: If y'all we've played moral quandary before, Susan struggles. Her

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go, Susan, start us off for the

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Speaker 2: first one. Come on, let's go.

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Speaker 1: A guy that was really rude to you and the

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Speaker 2: What would I do? What would you do?

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Speaker 3: When you asked me this question?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I can tell you a guy that was really

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Speaker 1: I definitely would you would say that, Absolutely not in

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I would talk about.

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Speaker 3: The rudeness definitely.

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Speaker 2: Well excuse me, excuse me. Yeah, I would do that,

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Speaker 2: But that's not what they're asking. The quandary here is

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Speaker 3: I would give no.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't say, we're just you know, there's idiots,

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Speaker 2: your friends and she'll say things like, are you done

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Speaker 2: taking pictures of yourself?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: It's a judgmental Do you return the favorite, call her

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Speaker 2: out or let it go because you know she's in

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Speaker 2: a bad place. What would you do? You'd call her

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Speaker 2: ass out so fast?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: And what would I do?

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Speaker 3: You'd say, I'll be done in a minute.

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Speaker 2: Hold one, No, I would see you know me better, Susan,

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Speaker 2: I would not. I I would. I would like to

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Speaker 2: make a joke of it, because I would feel. That's

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Speaker 2: what I do when I'm done in a minute. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: when I get secure, I feel badly, I'd be like, what,

455
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Speaker 2: what's the matter? I'm kidding? What you can't afford the film?

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Speaker 2: You know? I'd make some kind of a silly joke.

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Speaker 1: I'll be done in a minute. You want to get

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Speaker 1: in with me? Yeah, yeah, that's easy, all right. Your

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Speaker 1: best friend hooks up with your ex at a party. Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's the ex that absolutely shattered your heart that you've

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Speaker 1: been secretly hoping to get back together with. Jesus, they're

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Speaker 1: killing me today. Your best friend only knows that he Oh,

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Speaker 1: your best friend only knows that he broke your heart.

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Speaker 1: She never asks about him because she knows it's a

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Speaker 1: sore subject.

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Speaker 3: Do you confront her? It's your best friend?

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Speaker 2: Susan, Susan, Susan, Susan, Susan, what what I do. I'm thinking,

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Speaker 2: kat let me let me jump in here. You'd go

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Speaker 2: after with knives.

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Speaker 3: No, I would never do that.

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Speaker 2: I'm kidding. You'd go after right away.

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Speaker 3: I think you would say some thing right. Of course

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Speaker 3: I would, both of us would.

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Speaker 2: Of course I would, and I would be nice about it.

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Speaker 2: But you know what, Like I said, humor and being

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Speaker 2: funny hides a lot of pain.

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Speaker 3: I would be ouch one word ouch.

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Speaker 2: See, I'd be hurt.

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Speaker 3: Yes, well, my heart would be breaking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you broke your heart. Wait? Can I

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Speaker 2: ask a question? If it's not it's not part of

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Speaker 2: the moral quand but just so we're clear, But she says,

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Speaker 2: you were secretly hoping good? What is wrong with women?

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Speaker 2: Why do they want to get back together with men

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Speaker 2: that break their hearts?

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Speaker 3: Can we just can we just talk about not for it?

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Speaker 3: They can't understand it.

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Speaker 2: I think women don't understand sometimes the you know, the

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Speaker 2: meaning of love and independence and all that. But it

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Speaker 2: blows my mind.

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Speaker 3: He broke my heart, shat hope and so bad he

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Speaker 3: would come back to.

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Speaker 2: Wait, she didn't break her heart, Susan, he shattered. I mean, really,

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Speaker 2: you want to go back for war for that? What

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Speaker 2: you didn't you want to have your heart ripped out

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Speaker 2: now that it shattered?

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Speaker 3: Best friend? Hoax up? Okay, wait, hoox up? Kathy? What's

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Speaker 3: that mean, Kathy?

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Speaker 2: Up? Hook up means sex. Either he's on the top

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Speaker 2: or she is.

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Speaker 3: Oh, good grief, I got to look this up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, after your daughter, she'll tell you.

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Speaker 1: You and your partner are friends. Are with friends at

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Speaker 1: a bar. When you come back from the bathroom, you

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Speaker 1: see a random girl giggle and grab his arm.

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Speaker 3: How do you react? Your boyfriend doesn't engage and just

507
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Speaker 3: continues his conversation with your friend group, but she is

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Speaker 3: still locked on him, flipping her hair and flirting.

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Speaker 2: Oh what would I do?

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Speaker 3: It's probably the same thing.

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Speaker 1: I would go right on up, give him a nice kiss,

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Speaker 1: and let her know who he's with.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, you want to let going out? He's thinking

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Speaker 3: move along. As you'd say move along.

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Speaker 2: I would absolutely say I, No, see.

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Speaker 3: You fling that hair again. I'm going to cut it off.

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Speaker 2: No. I would look at him. I would look at

518
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Speaker 2: her my eyes. My kids say, mom, you have crazy eyes.

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00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 2: I would give her my crazy eyes, which, let me

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Speaker 2: translate my crazy eyes. Bitch. I'm giving you two seconds,

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Speaker 2: so you get your hands off of him, and then

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let loose and I lift weights and do

523
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Speaker 2: push up, so you don't want to screw around with me.

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Speaker 2: Get the f away from my boy friend. What's wrong

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Speaker 2: with all these insecure women though that?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think they're young, that's all you know. Wisdom

527
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Speaker 1: comes with age.

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Speaker 2: I mean listen, I would just like to find a

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Speaker 2: guy that's some to fork with.

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is the next one's good. Go ahead, keav

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Speaker 3: all right.

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Speaker 2: Your coworker, who has become your good friend is hooking up.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean, Susan?

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Speaker 3: See I still soaking up with the boss.

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Speaker 2: Oh? Like that's never happened before. What planet are you? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Your coworker who has become your good friend is hooking

537
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Speaker 2: up with the boss of your division who is married. Subsequently,

538
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Speaker 2: she gets promotions and perks at work. What do you do? Oh?

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Speaker 3: I be pissed.

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Speaker 2: No, Oh my god, what would I do?

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Speaker 3: I'm googling hook up.

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Speaker 2: Wait, you know what I'd be doing. I'm gonna go

543
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: hook up with the boss. I want the perks. No,

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Speaker 2: you would not do anything. You would not You would

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Speaker 2: not Kathy.

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Speaker 1: What Kathy hooking up means meeting people for the purpose

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Speaker 1: of having sex, generally not having any sort of relationship afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Susan, what did you not just see

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Speaker 2: the dictionary? According to Kathy, I told you what it meant.

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Speaker 2: Hooking up is just like, let's go have sex. You

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Speaker 2: might mine, you might make it. If you're lucky and

552
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Speaker 2: you spend the night, you might get a bagel out.

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Speaker 3: Money means one and done.

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Speaker 2: It can't. Yeah, usually a hookups just like I'm at

555
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Speaker 2: had sex in a week? Who's available? I mean, good god?

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Speaker 3: What would I do about the boss guy?

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Speaker 1: Okay, well I think my co worker has become my

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Speaker 1: good friend.

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Speaker 2: You would say something to her, but again you would

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Speaker 2: do it privately. Yeah, of course, I mean I make jokes.

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Speaker 2: I said sleep with the boss because I want the perks. No,

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Speaker 2: I would, and you know what, I wouldn't sad thing

563
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Speaker 2: to the friend. What's the point? What is the point?

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Speaker 2: She's not interested in mine?

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Speaker 3: I'd be careful. I'd say I'd be careful if I

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Speaker 3: were you. He is married.

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Speaker 2: You, I'm sorry. Do you think she has an IQ

568
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Speaker 2: of ten? Do you think she doesn't know he's married?

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Speaker 3: This is fun that I got. At least we're not crying.

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Speaker 3: Just that one broke my heart. Oh God, all right,

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Speaker 3: pleo viso, it's over again.

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Speaker 2: Why does this go so fast?

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Speaker 1: We're having fun? And that's all for today's episode of

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Speaker 1: Golden Hour. I hope you guys enjoyed it as much

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Speaker 1: as we did. And I want to know what you

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Speaker 1: people think.

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Speaker 3: Is it just us because we're over sixty?

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Speaker 1: I want to know what some young people think about

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Speaker 1: today's episode.

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Speaker 2: Yes, please, thank you so much right in. We want,

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Speaker 2: we truly do want to hear what you think. If

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Speaker 2: you're not busy sleeping with your boss or throwing the

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Speaker 2: hand off your boyfriend's girlfriend's shoulder, whatever in the hair,

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Speaker 2: yeah whatever, stop flipping your hair and write us a comment.

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Speaker 2: All you have to do is go to bachelornation dot

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Speaker 2: com slash Golden Hour and submit your questions to us.

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Speaker 1: Or your comments and listen to Bachelor Happy Hours Golden

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Speaker 1: Hour on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you listen to

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Speaker 1: your podcast.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to this was great fun.

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Speaker 2: See you next time.