1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: I bailed on my family Vegas trip because my grandpa 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: is a creep. This is all answering the question. 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: Who is it from? 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: Though, well, I but it doesn't say what's The question 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: is what I know? 6 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 2: But where's from the question is how do you stand 7 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:17,760 Speaker 2: up to your parents best family. 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read again, I bail on my family Vegas 9 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: trip because my grandpa's a creep. And this comes from our. 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 3: Slash Okay stud Let's go. That's our subreddit. 11 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: Go to our slash Okay story time on reddit to 12 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: go submit your story link in the description. 13 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 3: We'll read it. 14 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: But this first story comes from Aggressive Tier six six one, 15 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: and they say a few wants ago, my grandma finally 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: found peace after a long fight with Alzheimer's. During that 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: long battle, her main caretaker was her husband, Tim. Tim 18 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: has been in my life since the day I was born. 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: He played a grandfather role, but always asked to be 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: just Tim. This will become relevant, I promise. 21 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 3: Okay. 22 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: Anyway, if you know anything about Alzheimer's, you know it 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: can get really ugly, really fast. The grandma we once 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: knew hadn't occupied her body in a long time. It 25 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: took a toll on all of us, but Tim had 26 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: very little escape from it for years. He hadn't been 27 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: able to have guilt free fun in quite some time. 28 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: So after grieving my cousin, Kelly and I thought it 29 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: would be a fun idea to take Tim on a 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: family vacation to Vegas when Tim and Grandma were both healthy. 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:40,559 Speaker 1: When Tim and Grandma were both healthy, they frequented Vegas often. 32 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,319 Speaker 1: We thought it would be a perfect place to thank 33 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: him for all he did for her. A perfect place, 34 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: perfect place. I'm thinking what happened in Vegas will now 35 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: be spread to the whole. 36 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 2: It won't be pretty in Vegas. 37 00:01:57,680 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: Stayed in Vegas this time. 38 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: We shared it with their moms, who both thought it 39 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: sounded great as well, so we filled in Tim. He 40 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: was ecstatic and proudly exclaimed that he and Graham had 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: racked up a bunch of airline miles that he would 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: love to use for the trip. Upon telling my husband 43 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: about Kelly and my prime Upon telling my husband about 44 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Kelly and my plan, though he started questioning me about 45 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: my relationship with Tim prior to my grandma's illness. It 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: consisted of the man being horrendously inappropriate to me and 47 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: every other female around, so totally fair. At the time, though, 48 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: I told him I didn't want to think about the past. 49 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 1: I just wanted to thank the man for taking care 50 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: of my grandma while she was sick. Okay, so yeah, 51 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: said Tim is not blood related. 52 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah no, And I think what was just happening was, 53 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:59,239 Speaker 2: ohpuh suggested this trip, and then when telling her husband, 54 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 2: her husband was like, Ooh, don't you have a complicated 55 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,639 Speaker 2: past with Tim? Wasn't he kind of weirding? 56 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: Always very object stafying. 57 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:09,079 Speaker 3: Yeah. 58 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: Upon telling my husband about Kelly started questioning. At the time, 59 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: though I told him I didn't want to think about 60 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: the past. I just want to thank the man for 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: taking good care of my grandma while she was sick. 62 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to believe that maybe Tim had changed, but 63 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: recently is proved he has not. My mom was telling 64 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: him about a sweet sixteen swim party she is chaperoning, 65 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: and he cut her off to ask if he could 66 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: tag along to look at all the girls in their bikinis. 67 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: I can't believe Cody Co's in the story. Stop djinggedly allegedly. 68 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this horrible, horrible man. 69 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: When my mom called me and told me about this. 70 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: It brought every happy memory back. For example, he regularly 71 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: reminded me that he wasn't my real grandpa. Oh, and 72 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: he wink and whistle at me after saying it. Oh 73 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: my god, Remember I only ever called him Tim. 74 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: Well. 75 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: Furthermore, when I was twelve and walked out with a 76 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: swimsuit on, Tim excitedly said, ooh, somebody's getting movies. 77 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: I hate him. Vince has put that thing down, And 78 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if you meant. 79 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 3: Like put Tim down. Done. 80 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: Like three years later, I witnessed him do the exact 81 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: same thing to Kelly. I stood up to Tim and 82 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,919 Speaker 1: told Kelly she didn't have to let him speak to 83 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: her like that. I later got lectured about how to 84 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: keep the peace. 85 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. That is ridiculous. If you were an adult 86 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: in a situation where, or even an adult when situ 87 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: where other adults are involved and like men and your 88 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: family are making them feel uncomfortable, then you should stand 89 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: up for them and you should call them. 90 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 3: Out keeping the peace. How about like avoiding your child 91 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: and the family from going through the most horrendously possible 92 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 3: imaginable promise. 93 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 4: That's crazy. How about that I was about to say, oh, 94 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 4: maybe he didn't know that the age of consent was eighteen, 95 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 4: but in the seventies the edge of concent used to 96 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 4: be twenty one and then it was lowered to eighteen 97 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 4: and what Yep, that's what AI Google says. 98 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: No, that makes so much more sense. 99 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 3: Though. 100 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: I feel like having the age of consent be twenty 101 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 1: one makes so much more consent because that's when you 102 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: can drink, that's when you. 103 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: Can do I think so. But I think also that's 104 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 2: not relevant because he shouldn't be talking about younger women 105 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 2: like this anyway. 106 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 3: To his basically stepping grandchildren to his family, to his 107 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: family period. 108 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, he is making passes at home. I think 109 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: his grand nieces. 110 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 2: If you ever tell your children to just like, oh, 111 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 2: you know, he's old, he just says stuff like that. 112 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 3: That's so, so, so so dangerous. 113 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: I also think like, you should, you should. You're like, 114 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: we've had these stories where it's like you're taking the 115 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: side of the wrong person here, like you should be 116 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: reprimanding the right person, which is the grandfather. 117 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,679 Speaker 3: And I truly believe this is one of the most 118 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: dangerous things you could possibly Yeah. 119 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: No, yeah, because you're teaching them and that's that is 120 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 2: how that that that is the way that they're going 121 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: to be treated in life. 122 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: So anyway, those are just a couple examples among many 123 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: disgusting stories. Our trip to Vegas is in five days, 124 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: and I don't want to go anymore. I don't want 125 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: to go, be nice or even be around him. I'm 126 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 1: beyond thankful that he cared for my grandma, but that 127 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: doesn't cancel. 128 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 3: Out his peto behavior and go. 129 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: My mom says I shouldn't let him ruin our trip 130 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: and shouldn't bail on everyone else going. I don't feel 131 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: like him in the wrong here, but nobody in my 132 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: family is on my side. My husband and his family 133 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: backed me up one hundred percent. But I guess I 134 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 1: just want to be sure I'm not being a dick 135 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: by canceling, and there is a up. 136 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: Decked Yeah, I do not think that. 137 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: Do you think Ope is being a dick by canceling? 138 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 3: Not at all? The other family is rewarding his behavior 139 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: by not like calling it out, and all of that. 140 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: Just I think if someone ever makes you uncomfortable, you 141 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 2: do not have to put yourself in a situation where 142 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 2: you were around them. 143 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: Agreed and just again, it's just like so so so 144 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 3: so dangerous to encourage or not like reprimand or have 145 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 3: no repercussions for someone's behavior like this insanity. 146 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: I'm just surprised because I'm surprised that no one is 147 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: reprimanding the grandfather, Like everyone's just like, yeah, that's fine, 148 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: but the thing is even ope, like until she had 149 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: what was it, her husband remind her like, hey, are 150 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: you sure you want to invite this guy? Like even 151 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: she didn't realize how bad. 152 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 2: It was, which I think is because her family her 153 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: probably like I mean, I'm just assuming this, and op, 154 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: if you're here, you know, say otherwise. But I feel 155 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: like when your entire family is saying this is normal behavior, 156 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 2: just oh just shrug it off. You're like, oh, I 157 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: guess it is. And then to have an outside person 158 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: be like, yeah, well you are you sure you want 159 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 2: to be around him? 160 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: You need someone to break the reality distortion fields, you know, 161 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: like like I think you you understand what is normal 162 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: and what is acceptable? Yeah really first, yeah, from your family. 163 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 2: And I think everyone gets those gut feelings, especially I 164 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: think if you're a woman in these situations with a 165 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: creepy person, you get those gut feelings. But if people 166 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: around you are saying, hey, don't feel that, don't feel that, Yeah, 167 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: you try and push down your like fight or flight responses. 168 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: That anxiety that is a protective like it protects you 169 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: and you need someone Yeah, as you said, you need 170 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: someone else to like break that. 171 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, Yeah, ikey icky man, but yeah, Tyler says 172 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: normal doesn't mean acceptable. Dana Darkness says, I think my 173 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: mom would have sterilized this man if he was in 174 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: my life as a child. Alissa Mundy says, always go 175 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: with the gut pickle key. He says, as someone who 176 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: just got off an awkward situation involving my grandpa and 177 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: my son, the adult should have been more conscientious. 178 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. 179 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: I can't imagine being the uh, the the adults, the 180 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: parent parents and seeing that happen and saying. 181 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 2: I've been in a situation where I had a friend who, 182 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: to her face like a family or like a distant 183 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 2: family member at a party, like, said something like this 184 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: to her while I was standing next to her, and 185 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 2: I was like, shot, like it's so, what do they say? 186 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 2: They just commented on her, like I don't want to 187 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: say it, but like they basically just like commented on 188 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: her dress saying it was low cut and it's just 189 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,840 Speaker 2: very inappropriate comment to say to someone, uh and any 190 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 2: you know the situation, but like to two young women. Yeah, 191 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 2: and I was like this is wow. 192 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, whack a doodle. Also on the point that 193 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: that OPI mentioned of, like, yeah, he did, you know, 194 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 3: take care of the grandmother or whatever, but that doesn't 195 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: like erase or change at all all the other stuff 196 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 3: he did, which is which is super important too. 197 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: You can family, You can you can realize that someone 198 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: has done a good thing while also recognizing that you 199 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: don't want to be around them for all the bad 200 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: things they've done. 201 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 2: Exactly like yeah, okay, but you weren't near a mind. 202 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 3: Les off my comments, Mike. But yeah, I'm I'm hoping 203 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 3: and praying that in this next update that yeah, we 204 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 3: got an update. I am hoping and praying that this 205 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: family fine, really kind of something comes around and thank 206 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: god she has a husband's family that's one hundred percent 207 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 3: of them. 208 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: But let's get into this update. So firstly, I really 209 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: appreciate the people who took time out of their day 210 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: to read my story and listen to my frustrations. You 211 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: all were very helpful in solidifying my thoughts and reminding 212 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: me I was not in the wrong for my actions 213 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: or feelings. Thank you all so very much. I did 214 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: not make it clear. 215 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is our such a story time. 216 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, the best community I'm reading. Go submit stories to 217 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: our subrendit right now, our sash Okay story time. 218 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. These are the type of stories that I'm I'm picking. 219 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. 220 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: Shout out so Fia, shout out so fil. I did 221 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: not make it clear who was actually attending the trip 222 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: in my original post, so I am now. The final 223 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: list going on the trip ended up being Tim, my mom, 224 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: my aunt, Kelly, her brother, myself, and my husband. My 225 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: husband and I are officially not going anymore good. Yesterday, 226 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: I was extremely honest with my mom about how much 227 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: it hurt me that she never stood up for me 228 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: in these situations. There we go, and when I say honest, 229 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: I meant it. I emailed what I had to say 230 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: so that I could not be cut off or deterred 231 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: from saying what I needed to get out. This is 232 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: how the conversation began. Me, I'm not going to Vegas. 233 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: I know you're going to be mad at me, but 234 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: I can't do it. I'm going to contact my aunt 235 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: today and I'll gladly pay her back for any cancelation 236 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: fee for my husband and I's room. But I'm not 237 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: going to go to be miserable to keep the peace. 238 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: The man is disgusting. I'm beyond grateful that he cared 239 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: for my grandmo the way he did, but that doesn't 240 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: cancel out the fact that he's a pedo, and I'm 241 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: done pretending that it does. I'm going to write him 242 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: a letter as well. I'm not going to be mean 243 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: or hateful. I'm going to be honest with how he 244 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: has hurt me over throughout the years and that nobody 245 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: did anything to stop him. It took me years to 246 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: not let someone touch me more than I wanted to, 247 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: because I was taught from a very young age that 248 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 1: my body was not mine to make decisions about. I 249 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: was taught that Tim could put his hands wherever he 250 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: saw a fit if I told him I was uncomfortable, 251 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: I was told I was being disrespectful, but grew up 252 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: and felt guilty for telling any man to do so, 253 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: and any man no. I'm very aware that everyone will 254 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: call me dramatic, but I don't really care. The mom asked, 255 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: like about what she's basically talking about, and U like, 256 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: what kind of touching? Like I knew he made comments 257 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: and your dad tried to put a stop to it, 258 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: And she said, sitting at the bar in the kitchen 259 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 1: getting massages, hugs when I didn't want them, the comments 260 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: about not being my real grandpa with a whistle, the 261 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: comments about me getting boobies and then doing the same 262 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: thing to Kelly three years later. Then when I told 263 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: Kelly she didn't have to let him talk to her 264 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: like that, I got reprimanded. At this point, she shifted 265 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: and told me that he was not mad at me 266 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: for sending a boundary, asked more questions and did apologize 267 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: as well. I also told her that I'm very aware 268 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 1: that she and my aunt are also victims of this, 269 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: and I don't only see them as villains in this 270 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: story anymore because of that. But with that, we're all adults. 271 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: Now. 272 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm not asking anyone to stand up for me anymore. 273 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm simply informing them that I will be standing up 274 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: for myself now. 275 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 3: Now. 276 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 2: I think a lot of times, in situations like this, 277 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: adults will expect their children to just give like hugs 278 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: to the other people, like other family, they're like, oh, well, 279 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: they're your family, so you should hug them, let them 280 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 2: like give you a kiss, thing on speak or whatever. 281 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 2: And I think that you should never expect your children 282 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 2: to just like not be able to say no to 283 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: any sort of physical affection. 284 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 3: I truly don't understand because it's like, at the end 285 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: of the day, what is the literal most important thing 286 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 3: is is protecting your child. 287 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 2: You should you should encourage your child to always feel 288 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: comfortable saying no. Yeah, even if it's just like I 289 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 2: don't want my aunt to hug me, they should feel 290 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: comfortable saying no, I don't want that right now. And 291 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: if you're not, I think that if you're not like 292 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: encouraging your kiss to say that, it can open you know, 293 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: these situations up. 294 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: Where yeah, well I again, like I think what going 295 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: back to what OPI was saying, or it is like 296 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: I was taught that I didn't have control over my body, 297 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: And like, I think one of the things that you 298 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: can kind of ingrain your children early by by by 299 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: saying like. 300 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 3: Hey, that's okay. 301 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: It's just basically, at any time you want your bodily autonomy, 302 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: you can ask for it and or really reverse it's 303 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: it should if someone if someone wants some kind of 304 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: if someone wants something for you, you have to agree 305 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: to it, like consent, consent. 306 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: Yes, If you don't want to be touched and you 307 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 2: say no, they need to respect that point, like period. 308 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 3: And if they don't, then family. 309 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: Should be a safe person for you to go and say, hey, 310 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 2: I said no, they didn't respect that, and then you're 311 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 2: parents should say don't freaking touch my kids. 312 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 313 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's where the story ends. 314 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: Diana says, children are people too, they aren't objects to 315 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: be passed around. Yeah. I think that there is this 316 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 2: expectation of like, oh, children's like so cute. 317 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: And Alyssa Mondy says, my body, my rules. 318 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: Yep, shout out, shout out to ope again a member 319 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 3: of the Okay family standing standing up to her mom, 320 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 3: and it's like, honestly, the mom should have had a 321 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 3: did not have a great response at all, in my opinion, 322 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: And I'm glad. I'm glad that someone is like checking 323 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 3: the mom and all the other adults in the family, 324 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: and op is the one that is like taking the 325 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 3: charge to make this change in which is which? In that? 326 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 2: And I also really appreciate that op is kind of 327 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 2: breaking this cycle by standing up forever. I think me exactly. 328 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, someone to finally say this is not okay and 329 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: ops being that person, which is which requires bravery. 330 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 2: That's right, Bella, thank you for the five buck tip. 331 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: I really feel for I've been in very similar situations 332 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: and no one to back me up. I'm so glad 333 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,440 Speaker 2: she is taking a stand. Hopefully she will be able 334 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: to move forward without any. 335 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: More greed payment. But also, we just hit a wheel. 336 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 3: Spin Look at that? 337 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: Look at that nice let's spin that wheel? 338 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: Spin that wheel that we found? 339 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 5: It m. 340 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 2: My favorite. 341 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 4: It's not Jeopardy Trivia, so you can just splurt it. 342 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 3: Out what is it? Oh? 343 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: So I don't have to say what is okay? Do 344 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 2: we still have to go beep buzz But how do 345 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 2: we know who wins? 346 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 3: Y is a judge of the first person who said it. 347 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 3: I like that. 348 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: I think there should be buzzed. 349 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: I think we need buzzers. I think we need buzzers too. 350 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 4: It's like buzzer downstairs. 351 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 3: It's only one buzzer. 352 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, we need more buzzer spin and spid. Also, if 353 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: you want to see more sibling rivalry, or rivalry. Do 354 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: we post the linked I don't know, facing off. 355 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: I don't know that'd be fair. Did you did mom 356 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: say her whether or not I did meats? 357 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 3: Okay? 358 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: So there is a picture of Sophia swimming. Can you 359 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: see that? So that is Sofia at a pool. 360 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 2: Had a swim meet. That is a swim meet. 361 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's at a swim meet, but 362 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: she is at a pool. 363 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 3: There is a picture. 364 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: I can find you. I can find you my awards 365 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 2: because I have them. 366 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 4: Who pended the Mona Lisa. 367 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: Proof leon O you want Wait, that's it? 368 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 3: That's it? 369 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah Sophia. 370 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 3: At one point, yeah, I thought, I think we. 371 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 4: All thought, what year did the Titanic sink? 372 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 3: Twelve? How do you know that it was? 373 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 2: What do you mean how do you not know. 374 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: That John almost gone on the boat but he didn't? 375 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 2: It was it was like nineteen twelve at three a m. 376 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 2: There were you? Did you not have a period of time? 377 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: Were you obsessed with the Titanic? 378 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 4: The conspiracy theories on the Titanic is wold? I love those? Okay. 379 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 4: What is the smallest country in the world, my landing? 380 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: The Vatican? 381 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 2: Wow? 382 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 4: Again, where is this coming from who discovered penicillin? O? 383 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 3: What? 384 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 4: I hate this guy. I don't know this guy because 385 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 4: I'm allergic to it. 386 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 3: Andrew penicillin? 387 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: No, no, no, who who invented pillin Chat? 388 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: I've heard the name before Chat You got it? Uh? 389 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 3: I m hint Oxford penicillin. 390 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 4: No, his penicillin is none the less name. 391 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: Uh uh Andrew A moxicilan? An don't know? 392 00:19:56,520 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 4: Maybe Chat mine, I don't know. Nope? 393 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 3: What is it? 394 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 4: All right? It is Alexander Fleming didn't know that. What 395 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 4: is the hardest natural substance? 396 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: It was one of them? 397 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 4: I heard Sophia the clearest. But I could be wrong. 398 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 2: No, I think, I think, I do think I actually 399 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 2: definitely I think I said it first. 400 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 4: Get to gone to Sam zero challenging questions. What is 401 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 4: the largest earth, largest ocean on Earth? I think that's Sam. 402 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: Thank god. I guess I didn't know that. 403 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 4: Which element has the atomic number one hydrogen A two 404 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: B two B in Which year was the United Nations established. 405 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 3: Nineteen forty eight, nineteen forty five? 406 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: Yep, oh, I knew around. I knew it was around that. 407 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 4: Because this one's too easy. Who's the author of the 408 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: Harry Potter. What is the most abundant gas in the 409 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 4: Earth's oxygen? John three, Sam one, you were what's happening? Okay? 410 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 4: These are harder? Which planet is known as the Red planet? Oh? 411 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: Oh, wind Goles, Thanks for the fifty bucks. It's my 412 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: birthday and felt like Sharon. 413 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 3: Love birthday, birthday? Birthday? 414 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 4: Was that right? Yeah? Mars? 415 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 3: What's this? 416 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: Uh? 417 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 4: What's the rarest blood type in humans? 418 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: Positive? 419 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: What was it negative? 420 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: I didn't even who. 421 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 4: Was known as the father of modern physics? 422 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: Is it modern that. 423 00:21:59,240 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: I know? 424 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 2: I has sitated? 425 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 3: Gonna say Albenheimer? 426 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 4: Hello? And what year did the Berlin wallfall? 427 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 3: N Yes? 428 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: Oh, ship too quick? 429 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: I didn't even know I know of this stuff. 430 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 2: I don't know. I've failed so hard at literally everybody. 431 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: I don't understand because I feel like John, I've never 432 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: seen you be good at trivia yet me either. 433 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 3: This is crazy. 434 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: What is the capital of Australia? 435 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 3: Canbar? 436 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: Melbourne's what Canba? 437 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? Wow? 438 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 4: Wow, You're not even Australia and not even Australian. 439 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: I looked that up last time. 440 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 4: Who composed the Four Seasons? 441 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 2: But Beytail, Bany Valley. 442 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: The Valdivaldi. 443 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: Because of me? 444 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 4: You didn't get it right. What is the square root 445 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: of two hundred and fifty. 446 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 3: Six twelve no. 447 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: Thirty four, fourteen. 448 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 2: Two, fifteen, sixteen seventeen. 449 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 4: Who is the first woman to win a Nobel p 450 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 4: of Nobel Prize and Franklin. 451 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 2: Florence nightmale and frank. 452 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: Not Florence See who a Noble Peace Prize, Nobel Prize? 453 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 3: Uh, m Amelia, I. 454 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 4: Love her the best. Let's go. 455 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 2: I knew that that was mercury. You didn't know was okay? 456 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 2: I knew it was in that field. 457 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 4: Okay. Which country won the first FIFA World Cup in 458 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 4: nineteen thirty Argentina No. 459 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 3: France, UK No Nope, Portugal Nope, nope, Uh. 460 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: Africa Nope, notth Africa. 461 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 3: Nope, Joland, Ireland mose. 462 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 4: People don't know I play No, not Brazil now. 463 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 3: Mexico. 464 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: The U s Okay, I don't know. I'm saying I 465 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 2: don't know. 466 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 4: Uh it is. I don't know how to say, especially. 467 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: The U Yugoslavia Uruguistan. 468 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 3: You are U g u a y Uguay. 469 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I said, got a point. 470 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 2: You did say that, all right? 471 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 4: Very difficult. What is the name of the first artificial 472 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 4: satellite launched by the Soviet Union in nine yep, oh yeah, 473 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 4: and it's back up Sofa seven, John five, Sam six. 474 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 4: I don't know how you did that, Sam, Come back boy? 475 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 4: And then who is the Greek goddess of wisdom? 476 00:24:54,880 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: And ye say it? You can't beat me at freak Mythology. 477 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 4: Which Shakespeare play features the character bylock Iliad. 478 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 2: I don't know, no, okay. 479 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 3: Roman and Juliet, I don't know any. 480 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: It's not it's not is it to to merchant in Merchant. 481 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: To? 482 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 2: No, I didn't get it. It was it was someone 483 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: else I was actually getting. I was trying to remember 484 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: merchant in Venice, but I was thinking of the what. 485 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 4: Is the oldest university in the United States? 486 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 3: Harvard? 487 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 4: John? What, I'm the one I'm joking? What is your son? 488 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 4: Who wrote the physical physiological? Ye, physological work of Critic 489 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 4: of Pure Reason? 490 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:06,159 Speaker 3: Thomas uh Jefferson, No, Adam Smith? 491 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 4: Nope. 492 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 3: But what was the name of it again? 493 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 4: Theological of Pure Reason? 494 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 3: Critic of Pure Reason? Leonardo da Vinci, Michael Angel. 495 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 4: Okay, what is the name? First clone sheep? 496 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 3: Oh dolly, let's go. 497 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah in what? In which year did the Battle of 498 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 4: Hackus take place? 499 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: Nineteen twelve eighteen sixty four, eighteen seventy four, eighteen eighteen twelve. 500 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: One sixty six. Who's discovered the structure of DNA? 501 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 2: Oh it was those two brothers, right, No, it was 502 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: a woman, either two brothers or a woman. And I 503 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: can't remember any. 504 00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 3: Robert DNA. 505 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 2: Who was it? 506 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: Emanuel can't I'm not I'm rereading that. 507 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, that was Who was it? James Watson 508 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: and Francis. 509 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: Right, it was two guys. I freaking knew it. 510 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 1: All right. 511 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 4: Who was your second president of the United States? 512 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 2: Yep, I said Damas Jefferson. 513 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: John Smith. 514 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 4: Accident nearly impossible. What is the largest non star by radius? 515 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 3: No, that's not right, big star Centaur, that's dope name 516 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 3: uh nine eight seven X, I'm the biggest star. 517 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 4: I don't know, I'm the big murdered. I don't know really, 518 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 4: U y scuty. 519 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: Uy scuty by scibbety a right? 520 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 4: Which country has the most time zones? Uh? 521 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: Russia, America, China. It's not Russia in the US, Asia, Africa. 522 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 4: You're gonna be so shocked. 523 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 6: I'm not going to give It's not Russia, Italy, Farous, Germany, 524 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 6: no idea? 525 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 3: What country South Africa? 526 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 4: Canada, Brazil. 527 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: What are we are we Canada, Antarctica. 528 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 4: Antarctica's going to be so pissed at this answer. 529 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: US. 530 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 2: I already said the US, so. 531 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: I already somewhere in South Mexico. 532 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 3: What what is it? All right? 533 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 4: You ready? 534 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 535 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 4: North Korea, France including France overseas territories. 536 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: I think I said, France can sell me. That tell 537 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: me if I said. 538 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 4: France, Oh people, as I said last one, we'll do 539 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 4: the hardest one here. Who wrote the divine comedy? 540 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 3: Oh? Divine comedy? 541 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: Was no. 542 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 3: Damn Inferno? 543 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 4: No Dante Aligrari? 544 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 2: No, I I know Dante's Inferno is the. 545 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 4: Seven seven one six? 546 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 2: Did I win? 547 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: No? Wait? What more? 548 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 4: What more? 549 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: That was great? 550 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: I didn't even need Dante's great. 551 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 4: Don't we have someone here who? 552 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 3: Oh? 553 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 2: Maybe I should have known because Dante and bought ally. 554 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: Now in common. Brunette, thanks for the ten box tip. 555 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: My uh old. My older sister's ex husband essayed myself 556 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: and my younger sister when when he was finally caught, 557 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: she actually took his side. Our family was strained for years. 558 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 3: She was under is another doctor? 559 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 2: Sorry? 560 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: Hearts in the chat for Blonde Brunette, Josephine Madala Burquis, 561 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 3: thanks for the two fifty three. Uh I said, uh 562 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 3: uy Scudi and didn't say I was, and you didn't 563 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 3: say I was. Josephine got it apparently allegedly not if Pokemon, 564 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: Thanks for a five bucks tip donating so you could 565 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 3: acknowledge my girl. Rosly. That's the woman I. 566 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: Was talking about. I said there was a woman and 567 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 2: there were two guys. I was freaking right. 568 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 3: Someone did say it was like, uh, maybe Watson and 569 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 3: Krik maybe like uh Edison did it? 570 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: A Rina Maya says, I said Paris. I didn't. I 571 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 2: didn't specify France. Oh yeah, freaking right. 572 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 3: I don't know. 573 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: I think that's close. 574 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 3: Great. I love that. Johnny crushed it. 575 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: You really crushed it. 576 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 3: I surprised myself. 577 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: I want but you did. 578 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 3: Thank you. See I let you all believe I was 579 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: an idiot to strike back. 580 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: You did great? 581 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 4: You did great. 582 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, we well we tied. 583 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 3: Huh oh we should swap out? 584 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: Yeah well we maybe we swap out when when Yeah here, 585 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: well that means we. 586 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 3: Gotta read leg queen gin thank you, that's okay, we can. Yeah, 587 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 3: we hit one and then bring them up. Who is it? 588 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: I just read i's my throat is my thor. 589 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: Fifty just be but all of our request Thanks for 590 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 3: two fifty three. I know my space facts super space 591 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 3: facts also Lego Queen jan Jen Sorry, selving forms and 592 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 3: membership need the long stream to distract me after my 593 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 3: husband admitted to the hospital and no way I will 594 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 3: be sleeping tonight. Guys hearts in the chat. Let's send 595 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 3: some love to to Lego Queen Chin. We are all 596 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 3: hoping for a speedier recovery, and we're here to hang 597 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 3: out with you and hopefully give you a smile and 598 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 3: laugh along the way. Oh, all of love to you. 599 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into this. Where did say? 600 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 3: Sam is running away? But you know we can, we 601 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 3: can hang out, we can reach not us. 602 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 2: He doubted my swim, He doubted it. And guess who 603 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: believed Sophia and stood by her side? Me, my best friend. 604 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 3: That's right. 605 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 2: Now you can see it. 606 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,479 Speaker 3: Now, you can see it. 607 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 2: All right, let's get freaking into it. 608 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 6: It real. 609 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: I threatened to cut off my parents over a new bedframe. 610 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 2: It got them off. 611 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 3: I'm about to reframe this relationship. 612 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: It's over, and this stands the question of how do 613 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 2: you stand up. 614 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: To your parents, not on a bed frame. 615 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:53,800 Speaker 2: So true. By the way, you can join us live 616 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 2: on YouTube every weekday at three pm Pacific Sanda time. 617 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 2: Just that part profile so immediate. Taylor in ninety three 618 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,959 Speaker 2: forty says, I will try and keep this short and sweet. 619 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: This just happened yesterday. I, twenty five female, had recently 620 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 2: decided that I needed a new bed frame. 621 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:12,600 Speaker 3: Controversial. 622 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to realize that the frame I had 623 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 2: previously had was something that I had since I began 624 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 2: that I had since I began college in twenty seventeen. 625 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 2: When I moved out into my own apartment in twenty 626 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: twenty two, it was given to me as a gift. 627 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: Flash forward to about three weeks ago. My frame began 628 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 2: to crumble and parts of it were flaking off in 629 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: big chunks. When trying to put any weight on it, 630 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 2: the frame, along with the mattress would tilt upward in air. 631 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, give me one. I had my boyfriend twenty 632 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 2: six mail come take a look at it and see 633 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 2: if it was fixable. But no thinking on it and 634 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 2: not wanting to try and keep fixing it, knowing it 635 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 2: would fall apart, I decided to throw the frame away. 636 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 2: I mentioned this to my parents fifty six male and 637 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: fifty four female respectively, in passing, as I've mentioned it 638 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: before with them, and my father was furious at me 639 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: the summon up what he said, I spent two K 640 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: on that frame, and you had the audacity to throw 641 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 2: it away? Who k on a frame? 642 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 3: Who came out a frame? 643 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 2: I spent like one hundred bucks on my frame? 644 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, two K and it's it's crumbling, and it's crumbling. 645 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 3: It's crumbling, like, say it up for a few years. 646 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 4: It's a bad deal. 647 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 2: Five years. 648 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 3: This is the craziest thing I've ever reast this. The 649 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 3: dad should be locked up for being the dumbest like 650 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 3: spender of all time. 651 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're an idiot. 652 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: Block them way. 653 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't even need a frame. 654 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 2: Why couldn't you wait until we got back from our 655 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: vacation for me to see if it was fixable? For 656 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 2: extra context, my parents went on a three to four 657 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: week vacation and we're taking a long drive up to 658 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 2: Washington State and then traveling back to Texas. I live 659 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: about thirty minutes from where my parents live, so it's 660 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 2: a long drive for them to visit me. There is 661 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 2: a furniture store in front of my Hurtman complex. So 662 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 2: I decided I would go in there and look around. 663 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 2: I saw a frame that I liked and decided that 664 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: I would get it along with a coffee table for 665 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 2: my living room. Adulting love it. I filled out the paperwork, 666 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: and since I brought something there a year prior, I 667 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: have a line of credit and the amount I would 668 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 2: pay a month would not be that much, sixty months 669 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 2: with zero percent interest. I called my mom about it 670 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: yesterday evening and told her about it and how excited 671 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: I was. But the one drawback is that my mom 672 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: always speaks to me on speakerphone. My father overheard our conversation. 673 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: He blew up at me again, saying, why would you 674 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 2: do this? Why are you making decisions without our inputs? 675 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 3: She's who is this? Father? 676 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 2: She's twenty five. She's twenty five. Why do you care? 677 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 2: That's a twenty five year old she doesn't even live with. 678 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 3: What oh dad, Oh my gosh. I need to get 679 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 3: your approval for this bedframe. Twenty five year old adult 680 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 3: living on her own, and even that is side. It's 681 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,280 Speaker 3: like it's a bed frame. 682 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 2: A bad frame. 683 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 3: Even if she was fourteen years old, ten years old. 684 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know any continues and why would you 685 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 2: put yourself in potential financial difficulties? Perhaps she's getting a 686 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 2: mucher bed frame. My mom was trying to get him 687 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,560 Speaker 2: to stop yelling at me, and I was on the 688 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,240 Speaker 2: other end trying hard not to cry. After what seemed 689 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,359 Speaker 2: like forever going back and forth, we hung up and 690 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 2: my mom went to talk text me and asked me 691 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 2: about the frame and the coffee table and what color 692 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 2: it was. I basically told her that it would have 693 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 2: been nice that dad would be at least happy about it. 694 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 2: My mom tried to justify it by saying he worries 695 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 2: for you and doesn't want you to be in any 696 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 2: financial stress. He just wants you to be in regular stress, 697 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: and that in these kinds of situations you need someone 698 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 2: with a sound mind to help you. 699 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 3: Make decisions sound mind. 700 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 2: He's an anyo, it's an idiot, he's a he's a 701 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 2: like irresponsible. I blew up at her and said that 702 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm tired of him always dropping on my conversations and 703 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,479 Speaker 2: at this point in my life, I'm ready to cut 704 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,439 Speaker 2: both of them off. I can't continue on not being 705 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: able to hear any conversation with her without him overhearing 706 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 2: and giving his two cents when it's not needed, or 707 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,640 Speaker 2: fear of any type of consequences for what he hears. 708 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 2: She apologized and said she would have a conversation with 709 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 2: him about that, but to not cut them off. Her 710 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 2: words were, only have each other in this world, and 711 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 2: your father only wants but it's best for you. At 712 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 2: the end of that conversation, I told her that if 713 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 2: this happens again, I will cut them both off, and 714 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: that this isn't a threat, it's a promise. My furniture 715 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: is coming in a couple of days, and instead of 716 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,520 Speaker 2: being happy, I'm writing this and crying, wondering if I 717 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 2: was wrong. So Reddit, am I the a hole for 718 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 2: threatening to cut off my parents? For the reactions about 719 00:37:54,040 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 2: me buying a new bed frame? And there is an edit? Yeah? Also, 720 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: oh my god, Intertwined, thank you for the twenty gifted 721 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,879 Speaker 2: membership to the chat. 722 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,880 Speaker 3: Do it Sophia. Wait wait, I'm I'm floating in space. 723 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 3: There's there's no gravity because we have just entered the 724 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:23,319 Speaker 3: Intertwined realm. That's like our version of Interstellar. 725 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,000 Speaker 2: Okay, thank you. 726 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: Intertring whelms the rule of the realms. But your comment 727 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:32,440 Speaker 3: on this story. 728 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,760 Speaker 2: The under of my arms. 729 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 4: Wow, that's what a great comment, you. 730 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 3: Know that is. I think that was so you know, 731 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 3: the the if you think about the under arms of 732 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: this story, yeah, you know, if you think about it, 733 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,879 Speaker 3: the dad is the armpit of father. You're so true, 734 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 3: you know what I mean, dude. But yeah, the mom 735 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,479 Speaker 3: says something about, oh, they. 736 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: Need to shed some light on the situation. 737 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:05,080 Speaker 3: They really do, unlike the pa pale under society. Yeah, 738 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 3: like this dad is in no way. Oh oh, here's 739 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 3: what I was gonna say. Some people could be like, oh, 740 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 3: it's it's like one interaction, like, oh, you gotta this 741 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 3: is probably the tip tip tip of the iceberg. Yeah, 742 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 3: I would have to imagine this is there's like so 743 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 3: many other instances that happened before, and this is the 744 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:26,720 Speaker 3: straw and b the Hamel's back. It is so insane. 745 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: And why is the mom saying this? 746 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 2: I hate it? 747 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 3: This keeping the peace? BS? And like you know, I'm 748 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 3: not the best with confrontation and things of this nature 749 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 3: in the family, but like, like you can't you know, 750 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 3: subjugate the other family members to all this, BS? 751 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 2: No, no, no, are you not? 752 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 3: Are you not? Worried about your your or are you not? 753 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 3: I don't know if the right word is like worried 754 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 3: or concerned? Like do you want your child to go 755 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 3: through this kind of treatment? 756 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 2: Yeah? Really believable, very unbelievable. But there is another Well. 757 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 3: Let's let's get into it. 758 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see give op Opie drops these parents? Mmmm 759 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 2: uh right. 760 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 6: Edit. 761 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 2: I'm new to posting anything on Reddit, so I'm unsure 762 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 2: on how to add my original post, but I'm here 763 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: in the comments to answer some questions. Number one, why 764 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 2: did the frame not last longer than it did? A 765 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 2: month after moving into my apartment in twenty twenty two, 766 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 2: my apartment got flooded due to a pipe burst during 767 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 2: a cold snap. The water came through my ceiling fan 768 00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 2: and fire alarm, which happened to be over my bed. 769 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 3: Oh that's. 770 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 2: As I was trying to move the mattress and the 771 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 2: box springs. I didn't have any tools to take the 772 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 2: frame apart as there are a lot of screws that 773 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 2: need to be drilled in slash out. So my thought 774 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 2: is that the frame was beginning to possibly decay due 775 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 2: to the exposure of the water. Presumably this is a yeah, 776 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 2: I think said, this is a wooden ram Yeah. Uh 777 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,520 Speaker 2: so maybe he didn't buy a bad frame, but he's 778 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 2: it's still ridiculous that I bought a two thousand dollars frame. 779 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 3: Like I would text him with a picture of me 780 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 3: like holding the crumbling yash. She's like my bed frame. 781 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah No, he's like one of those YouTubers that uses 782 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 2: like Ramen, you know what I'm talking about, where they 783 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 2: use Ramen to fix things and they glue it. Yeah, 784 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,880 Speaker 2: that's what That's what this is. 785 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 3: That's funny. 786 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 2: Number two, Why did I choose to do the sixty 787 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 2: month plan? 788 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 3: Did we know that? Oh yeah, sh cu percent was 789 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 3: zuropr Oh. 790 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 2: Okay, this isn't my first time doing this. I had 791 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 2: bought a couch and table last July, went out with 792 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 2: my mom. 793 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,320 Speaker 3: Not new to this. 794 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: The table I paid for it upfront in cash, and 795 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 2: the couch technically a love sleep love seat, but I 796 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 2: call it a couch. I decided to finance that with 797 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 2: a similar plan. I understand that these are monthly recurring payments. 798 00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 2: I paid off the couch this April slash May, so 799 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,800 Speaker 2: it was under one year of having it. Also, presumably 800 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 2: can you pay more off? 801 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:51,959 Speaker 4: Yeah? 802 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, like right, you can pay also if you wanted to. 803 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 3: I imagine especially in this one because it is a 804 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 3: zero percent. Yeah, it changes sometimes, but like I have mapped. 805 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, number three, did I ask them to bail me 806 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 2: out or anything of anything or having financial struggles? The 807 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 2: answer is no. I've been able to be fine on 808 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,520 Speaker 2: my own for a year and a half on my own. 809 00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 2: I would rather have nothing in my bank account than 810 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 2: tell him that my father is the kind of person 811 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 2: who would turn any situation to when I told you so. 812 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 2: Moment number four, how much did everything cost? I don't 813 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 2: want to give out the total amount, but I will 814 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 2: explain how much a month it is. It's about forty 815 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 2: five dollars a month. The bedn nd, what is it. 816 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 3: With these expensive bed guys? Guys? 817 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 2: Am I crazy? 818 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,359 Speaker 3: You know what I'm going to get out of a sponsorship? Iikia, Guys, 819 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to give out another sponsorship Facebook Market. Oh okay, 820 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 3: hold on, hold on, we have solutions, I kia, we 821 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 3: have solutions to these issues. 822 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 2: I'm so confused. I went on Amazon. I bought mine 823 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: for like less than one hundred, like about one hundred, 824 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 2: maybe one hundred and fifty at most on Amazon there is, 825 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 2: there is truly bed frame. 826 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,040 Speaker 4: If she's doing a sixty month APR forty five dollars 827 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,280 Speaker 4: a month, that's how much it cost. 828 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 2: Bad frame two hundred and sixty nine uh three forty 829 00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 2: nine one forty nine ninety nine dollars. I'm trying to 830 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 2: find an expensive one. Let's go most expensive. 831 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 3: So you could say, uh, like, hey, that's not a good. 832 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: Or seventy nine four nineteen ninety nine. I can't even 833 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 2: find one thousand dollars one. 834 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:27,680 Speaker 3: This is crazy. 835 00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 2: I can't even find in one thousand dollars one. 836 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 3: Guys, you're not in the diamond bed frame. 837 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 2: Why are you spending twenty five hundred dollars on a 838 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:40,280 Speaker 2: bed frame? That's ridiculous? What twenty that's. 839 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 3: Even more, twenty seven hundred dollars. This is ridiculous insanity. 840 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 2: You guys are bad at financially. 841 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,839 Speaker 3: So yeah, the one criticism for Opie did not buy 842 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 3: that expensive. 843 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 2: You're I mean, like, you're in the right about your parents, 844 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 2: but you're both in the wrong about how much you 845 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 2: should be spending on a bed frame. Yesumm, where was 846 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,120 Speaker 2: I So if the bad frame had drawers on a 847 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,439 Speaker 2: side that open up, which I like as it means 848 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,040 Speaker 2: a bit more extra storage. So in total, it's the headboard, 849 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 2: footboard with storage rails, the drawers themselves, and the coffee table, 850 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,880 Speaker 2: all of which had the furniture protection along with that, 851 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 2: and then relevant comments. Opie says, this isn't my first 852 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,600 Speaker 2: first time doing this. I had bought a couch and 853 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,240 Speaker 2: table last July, went out with my mom. The table 854 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 2: I paid for up. Oh I said that that one's 855 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,480 Speaker 2: already kind of ummm yeah that was already said as well. 856 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 2: So that is the end of that story. 857 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 3: It's over done, so I am. 858 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I just not over how much they 859 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 2: said it is. 860 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 3: It is like so infuriating, but that's not the point 861 00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 3: of the story. Yeah. Yeah, so breaking it down, break 862 00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 3: its dad absolutely a whole. Ah, here's a question, is 863 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 3: mom and a. 864 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,160 Speaker 2: Hole a little bit because she's complicit? 865 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 3: I agree? 866 00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:53,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I say a lot of it, a lot of 867 00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 2: it because she's being complicit. 868 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 4: Again I agree. 869 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 3: I think it's so it's again going with this like 870 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,920 Speaker 3: whole protecting the piece the family type thing, but. 871 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 2: He's actively making everyone stressed out it Ah. 872 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, that that grinds my gears. Grinder man, grinder Man, Yeah, 873 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 3: I get the dad out of here. But but I 874 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,520 Speaker 3: and he didn't even he didn't even comment on the 875 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 3: He could have given her the correct advice, which is like, hey, 876 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:28,360 Speaker 3: that's actually a lot to spend and like just so you, 877 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,879 Speaker 3: but he also spent two grand so talk he can't 878 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 3: even talk. I can't even freak of talk, damn. And 879 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 3: all his comments were basically irrelevant to what he chose 880 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 3: to actually say when he could have said something smart 881 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 3: and informative. No, no, he's an idiot. No man, Op, 882 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 3: protect your piece, but by a cheaper bed frame for 883 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 3: forgot bank account man, Yeah, protect protect that. But yeah, 884 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 3: I think that's about it. 885 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 2: So P the a hole just financially responsible. 886 00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 3: No, yeah, but actually. 887 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,760 Speaker 2: Advisable, advised, but not in a whole in the slightest. 888 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 3: Good for you for standing up for yourself. 889 00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 2: You can do. You can buy whatever you want as 890 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,359 Speaker 2: long as you're you know, it's that's your choice. I will. 891 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,239 Speaker 2: I would just say there are cheaper bed friends and true. 892 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 3: The real final point go no contact or not as 893 00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 3: OP did. 894 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 2: It seems as though this is an ongoing issue. So 895 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 2: I think that OP made the decision that was right 896 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 2: for them. 897 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, given given what we were kind of assuming is 898 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 3: so it is an exception. We're assuming this is one 899 00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,800 Speaker 3: in a long line of like these like controlling things. 900 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 2: Someone said, someone said in Australia that would be a 901 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 2: normal price. I'm going to text my mom asks Sandra, 902 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:54,799 Speaker 2: that's my great aunt. How much a bed frame as 903 00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,000 Speaker 2: in Australia. 904 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,320 Speaker 3: He's really answering all of our questions today we needed 905 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,239 Speaker 3: or h we need it for stream mom? 906 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 5: Mom? 907 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 2: Okay, sleigh, here we go. 908 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:07,359 Speaker 3: We have slaveday. 909 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 2: But that's the end of that story. 910 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:16,399 Speaker 3: Well, there we go, should we Uh that are coming up? Oh? 911 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,200 Speaker 2: I need to go to the bath. 912 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,919 Speaker 3: Uh go get out of my face, and I'm gonna 913 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 3: talk to the people. What's good people? 914 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 4: Oh? 915 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:29,920 Speaker 3: Do we have any donuts that we haven't right yet? 916 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 3: I think we're all caught up. 917 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's all of them. 918 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 3: Let's freaking go for ninety six. For ninety six, I 919 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 3: looked into custom made bed frames from family owned businesses 920 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 3: and they were on two to three K, but not 921 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 3: from a furniture store. That's the thing. It's like, okay, 922 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 3: yeah you can. You can get anything at an expensive cost. 923 00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: Uh. 924 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 3: Dixie Blue Seal also says mine was Amish built but 925 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 3: like they're literally so there's such a plethora of fantastic 926 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,240 Speaker 3: options in the range of few hundred dollars that's extremely 927 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 3: high quality that you just don't need to go anywhere 928 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 3: near maybe in your like forever home type situation or 929 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 3: if you have like crazy money. But guys, what are 930 00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 3: we doing? What are we doing? Riley? Let me ask 931 00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 3: you this. 932 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 4: Did you have the there's like a large Amish community 933 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 4: next to like, oh yeah, yeah, we had a Amish 934 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,880 Speaker 4: community and bashta did you. 935 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 3: Get the the like fireplace and like other like wooden 936 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 3: you know, furniture ads on TV? 937 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they had billboards of them and stuff. 938 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 4: We actually would like give wood to those Amish companies, right, yeah, yeah, 939 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 4: they'd get wood from us. 940 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 3: Dude, yeah, dude, there was There was literally so many 941 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,080 Speaker 3: TV commercials. There's this one like classic one. I'm pretty 942 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 3: sure it was like a local adka, but it was 943 00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 3: like this like electric Amish fireplace, which I always found. 944 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:56,960 Speaker 4: Hilarious because how would they know that that works? That's 945 00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 4: a great question, Like I could see them building it 946 00:48:59,160 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 4: and doing all the thing. 947 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 3: But is a spectrum because a lot of amuse you 948 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,400 Speaker 3: use that simple electricity and because I think lunites is 949 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:10,479 Speaker 3: the specific type. 950 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,560 Speaker 4: Did you ever watch the the uh freaking documentaries of 951 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:16,279 Speaker 4: the Amish people? 952 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,399 Speaker 3: I didn't watch them. 953 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,320 Speaker 4: I love them. They were like, oh, the Amish gangs. 954 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,600 Speaker 4: They used to have the Amish gangs in They really. 955 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,719 Speaker 1: Would cut off people's beards, like there was like there 956 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: was Amish gangs that would go against other Amish gangs 957 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: and cut off people's beards. 958 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,319 Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's too much. 959 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: It is too much, but you know what else, it's 960 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,200 Speaker 1: never too much? What adding another person on this stream? 961 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 3: Let's do it? Come on over stuff, have no regard 962 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 3: for the lights. 963 00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: Okay, So, uh, Steph is my best friend from college, 964 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: his girlfriend and also now a friend. And she literally 965 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 1: just came off. 966 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 4: Work literally that's right, get that like and under your 967 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 4: chin and tried to. 968 00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: And wait, yeah, really it should be right below the Yeah, 969 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: that's that's pretty good. Can you hear it? 970 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 4: Beautiful? 971 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:22,160 Speaker 3: That is us. 972 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, so Steph is also Steph, what are you studying? 973 00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 2: I'm going into psychiatry. 974 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: So literally low key and actual brain doctor that may 975 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 1: be uh credited to give advice like we've been flippantly 976 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 1: giving it, but. 977 00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 3: Way more qualified. I's actually had years of experience. We 978 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:47,839 Speaker 3: also have years of experience analyzing these insane stories. That's true. 979 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: So who really knows the brain better Steph? So Steph 980 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,719 Speaker 1: is going to be popping in and pipeing in and 981 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: shall we give it started? Yeah, you didn't do some 982 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:06,799 Speaker 1: parts of the stat chatt it'd be nice, Yeah, chat chat. 983 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,759 Speaker 1: You better be nice. We see you, Yeah, we see you. 984 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 1: Steph is one of the nicest people I know. 985 00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 4: Be nice. 986 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,680 Speaker 3: All right, she'll get into it. Let's do it. Am 987 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 3: I who's reading? Am I reading? I just readould you? 988 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 3: Did you read about Amish people? We were talking about 989 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 3: Amish people. There was a bed frame that costs twenty 990 00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 3: seven hundred dollars. Crazy, I know, twenty seven hundred dollars. 991 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 3: So that got me and Riley to talking about in 992 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 3: our hometowns, there's like like all these like Amish to 993 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:36,800 Speaker 3: like Amish electric fireplace? 994 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,160 Speaker 1: Can they make? 995 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:39,920 Speaker 3: Is that allowed? 996 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 4: It's almost as a spectrum, as John said, that is true. 997 00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 3: As I learned an amage country, I did. I did 998 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 3: learn that. But that. 999 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:52,320 Speaker 1: Would also make really good stuff, like high quality stuff, 1000 00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: because I think they like take their. 1001 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 3: Time, that's their whole thing. 1002 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 5: Man. 1003 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: But also the Amish aren't a monolith. There's a spectrum 1004 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 1: talk talk talk, talk, that talk. The slippy toe is 1005 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,919 Speaker 1: a slight slidey toes. I always, I always say that wrong. 1006 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: Stephan used to weigh in on Sam's golden rules. 1007 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 3: That's that sounds like a fun It's gonna hate. 1008 00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:20,200 Speaker 1: My golden It's a predictive toolold you you could, you couldn't, 1009 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: or maybe she will agree if enough context is given. 1010 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 3: What what what? What episode we are on? Yeah? 1011 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,480 Speaker 1: Sorry, I was not listening. Three cool there, It is 1012 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:42,880 Speaker 1: all right, thanks baby cakes. Okay, I dated my friend's 1013 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: therapist even though she begged me not to. 1014 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:48,000 Speaker 3: Listen. 1015 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 1: Gotta get the inside deats. 1016 00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 3: No pree therapy. 1017 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 1: Pree therapy, you're kind of getting an inside look into 1018 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:58,640 Speaker 1: your girlfriend so you could do even better. 1019 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,560 Speaker 2: No unethical, aethical. 1020 00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:05,800 Speaker 1: This is all to answer the question is it important 1021 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,640 Speaker 1: for your friends to get along with your partner? Also, 1022 00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,239 Speaker 1: by the way, it's important for you to get along 1023 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,359 Speaker 1: with us because we go live every weekday at three PMPSD, 1024 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:14,920 Speaker 1: So hop on over to YouTube if you want to 1025 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,399 Speaker 1: go see us live and chat with us. This first 1026 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 1: story comes from Careful Blacksmith two eight three, and they 1027 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 1: say I don't want to dock to myself, thus the anonymity. 1028 00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: I have a very tight knit group of friends. We 1029 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: are always there for each other for all the ups 1030 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:33,360 Speaker 1: and downs. I see them all as my sister and 1031 00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,919 Speaker 1: have never done anything that would affect them negatively. Well, 1032 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,960 Speaker 1: a few years back, something really horrible happened to one 1033 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: of them, Susan, and she went into a downward spiral. 1034 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:48,399 Speaker 1: After many crappy therapists, she finally found one that worked 1035 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,280 Speaker 1: for her, and she started slowly to crawl herself out. 1036 00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 3: Of the darkness. 1037 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,920 Speaker 1: Opie's kind of a poet with I'm imagining Suitsan in 1038 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 1: a dark area, and now she's for Congress to Susan 1039 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:03,399 Speaker 1: for doing the work. 1040 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 4: Also Congress to Kristin Fila to getting us another thirty minutes. 1041 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:11,400 Speaker 1: Who thanks for the five gifted memberships? Did we already 1042 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: shout out intertwined realms? 1043 00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:14,360 Speaker 3: Should we? 1044 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,560 Speaker 1: We'll wait, We'll wait, But intertwinal realms, you are good. 1045 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,680 Speaker 2: Night, Stephanie. Don't let the depression get the best of you. 1046 00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 1: We love you, Stephanie. 1047 00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,000 Speaker 3: And who was here? 1048 00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,839 Speaker 1: I moved away to a nearby city about five months ago. 1049 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,000 Speaker 1: My new home is about an hour and a half 1050 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,800 Speaker 1: right away from where I grew up. When all the 1051 00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,520 Speaker 1: necessities were paid for, I went on an impromptu holiday 1052 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: to Greece when I calculated that I had some money 1053 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 1: to spare there. I met an amazing guy on my 1054 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 1: first day in a restaurant. We immediately clicked. This has 1055 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 1: never happened to me before, the little little romance abroad 1056 00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,720 Speaker 1: love that initially planned a hiking type of solo holiday, 1057 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,239 Speaker 1: but we we spent eleven days together. I found out 1058 00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: he lives in the same city that I moved to, 1059 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: so naturally he changed his ticket and came back with me. 1060 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 1: I told my friends about it. Everyone was happy for me, 1061 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: even Susan. And again, Susan is the person that's getting 1062 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,239 Speaker 1: the therapy right now, so I guess you see it 1063 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,439 Speaker 1: enough light to see the light for her friends, that's 1064 00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,719 Speaker 1: good doing the work, Susan, that's you. I feel like 1065 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,239 Speaker 1: the Susan character is going to uh do something bad. 1066 00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: That's my conspiracy theory. During the holiday, he did tell 1067 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,160 Speaker 1: me he worked in the mental health field, but we 1068 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,960 Speaker 1: were too busy enjoying our time together to be talking 1069 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 1: about the specifics of work. When we returned, we continued dating. 1070 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 1: We still are well long story short, turns out he 1071 00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:56,880 Speaker 1: is Susan's therapist. And now I understand I dated my 1072 00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:01,879 Speaker 1: friend's therapist. Yes, but that wasn't all purpose. So question 1073 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,680 Speaker 1: to the professional. Yeah, if you find out you are 1074 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: dating your friend's therapist, do you ditch the date, the 1075 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 1: friend or the therapist or do you keep all three? 1076 00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 3: Oh man and no pressure. But this is an official. 1077 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,080 Speaker 2: Degree for all Yeah, well in the name of science. 1078 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 7: Well no, actually, officially there's no rule as if it 1079 00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,640 Speaker 7: was your own patient and you were dating them, like 1080 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,840 Speaker 7: you actually cannot like therapists slash as a psychiatrist, for example, 1081 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,920 Speaker 7: you can never date a patient. Fun fact, if you're 1082 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 7: a medical doctor, you technically can date a patient, but 1083 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 7: it has to be like two years after you've like 1084 00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 7: stopped treating them completely. So that was interesting to me 1085 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:54,960 Speaker 7: because there's actually rules that I don't know if you 1086 00:56:55,040 --> 00:57:00,320 Speaker 7: get disbarred, but that's actually something that we learn, like 1087 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:01,800 Speaker 7: what you can and can't do. 1088 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 2: So like as a psychiatrist, you can never date a patient, but. 1089 00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:08,360 Speaker 1: You could date, but you could friend, but you could date. 1090 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,480 Speaker 7: The friend of a patient of a patient. But you 1091 00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 7: know that's more of a personal ethical Would you really want. 1092 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,280 Speaker 1: To So if you were if you were the therapist 1093 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,200 Speaker 1: guy in this case and you found out you were 1094 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: dating the friend of a patient, would you change anything. 1095 00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 7: I feel like that really depends, Like if this is 1096 00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 7: just a fling and you don't see it going anywhere 1097 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 7: and you actually have like a therapeutic relationship with a patient, 1098 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,920 Speaker 7: I feel like maybe the professional thing would be to 1099 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,720 Speaker 7: like and the fling. 1100 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,919 Speaker 1: But this is a guy that she met in Greece, 1101 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: that she instantly clicked with, that flew back from Greece. 1102 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:44,360 Speaker 3: To be with her. 1103 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 2: Back in the day, I clicked with many people abroad, 1104 00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,200 Speaker 2: and uh, you know what, you move on. I have 1105 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:57,080 Speaker 2: the love of my life now. You can always connect 1106 00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 2: with people. Okay, there's lots of ways. 1107 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 1: All right, So, uh, the professional opinion is b but 1108 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: it's more it's it's it's more of the therapist to 1109 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,439 Speaker 1: do the dumping than op because oh, he's not really 1110 00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: in any conflict. Well, I guess with the friend, I 1111 00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: don't know, I guess, oh he is kind of in conflict. 1112 00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,040 Speaker 3: I feel like that is that is a question because 1113 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 3: because it's like, what if what if you start started 1114 00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 3: dating my therapist? 1115 00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:32,440 Speaker 1: You know, dude, give me your numberst each other. We 1116 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,920 Speaker 1: we we kind of act as each other's therapists. Sometimes 1117 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:42,360 Speaker 1: there's technically to Nima, I I am Naima's friend dating. 1118 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 1: I'm not going to figure out. 1119 00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,880 Speaker 4: You could know John could do it. John is dating 1120 00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:55,080 Speaker 4: Nima and Nima Sam's friend and yeah, boom. 1121 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,280 Speaker 7: Well I could be your psychiatrist. You're my boyfriend's best friend. 1122 00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 7: How would that make you if I was your psychiatry. 1123 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,520 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I would feel okay. 1124 00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:10,480 Speaker 2: With that would be okay, it's a big ye, that 1125 00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,120 Speaker 2: would be I'd be a psychiatrist. 1126 00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, talk that talk. 1127 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,160 Speaker 1: But let's get back into this story. So a few 1128 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 1: years back something Wait, we've already read that initially planned 1129 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,360 Speaker 1: solo and we would turn continued dating. Okay, So when 1130 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: it finally clicked for her, she told me I had 1131 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 1: to drop him. She said she was happy for me 1132 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: having a holiday fling, but she didn't feel comfortable that 1133 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: I was dating the guy that had all her confidential 1134 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,480 Speaker 1: info and that he might even be breaking some h 1135 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 1: I PAA, so some hipA rules by dating me? 1136 00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 7: Is he I mean if he doesn't disclose anything, then no, 1137 00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,200 Speaker 7: I mean he literally can't say. 1138 00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:53,360 Speaker 3: I told her. 1139 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,920 Speaker 1: Neither one of us knew that she herself felt he 1140 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,040 Speaker 1: that I told her neither one of us knew, and 1141 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 1: that she herself felt he was a great therapist, So 1142 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,560 Speaker 1: why couldn't she trust that he would keep it professional? 1143 01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:09,560 Speaker 1: I told her that he hadn't told me anything about 1144 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,920 Speaker 1: any of his clients, and I had never asked him 1145 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: about it either. We were always in the moment with 1146 01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,080 Speaker 1: each other instead of worrying about who and what happened 1147 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,200 Speaker 1: during work hours. Which if one of her closest friends 1148 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,800 Speaker 1: is a patient of his and they just found out 1149 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,920 Speaker 1: about it, it probably speaks to the level of confidentiality 1150 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:26,920 Speaker 1: that he has with his patients. 1151 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 3: Green flag, Green Flag. 1152 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,479 Speaker 1: At her next appointment, she confronted him and had asked 1153 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: him to dump me or she would report him. 1154 01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 3: Oh. 1155 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:42,520 Speaker 1: He reassured her he would never violate patient confidentiality, but 1156 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 1: she kept harassing him for the next few appointments. So 1157 01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,080 Speaker 1: what do you do, STEPH? Professional opinion? I mean, I 1158 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: think you know, this is my best story to introduce 1159 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:58,080 Speaker 1: step literally too. That was like a total accident too, 1160 01:00:58,440 --> 01:00:59,160 Speaker 1: that's crazy. 1161 01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,960 Speaker 7: I think the tough part here is that, for example, 1162 01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 7: this therapist I'm sure is very is being very professional. 1163 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:05,919 Speaker 2: So that's great. 1164 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 7: If he's not disclosing any information, cool. I think the 1165 01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:12,400 Speaker 7: issue now just becomes between the two friends, because that 1166 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,160 Speaker 7: must be awkward for the patient to be like, oh 1167 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,480 Speaker 7: my gosh, like you are dating my therapy. 1168 01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:19,720 Speaker 1: How can I open up? 1169 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 7: I exactly, And so I feel like if anything that 1170 01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,200 Speaker 7: kind of ruins the therapeutic relationship for the patient doesn't 1171 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 7: necessarily mean that the therapist is doing anything wrong. So 1172 01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,040 Speaker 7: I think in this case it might be like a 1173 01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,640 Speaker 7: dump the therapist and move on, because if you aren't 1174 01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:37,840 Speaker 7: able to open up to them anymore because of this 1175 01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 7: awkward situation, then they're not going to be helpful. 1176 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,200 Speaker 1: So maybe Susan should dump the therapist. That's basically I. 1177 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 2: Think it's so if you know everything else is. 1178 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Rater says, can you imagine how awkward it would 1179 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:52,120 Speaker 1: be to double date with your therapist or to spend 1180 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 1: holitay is with the therapy? 1181 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great point. 1182 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 2: No, my therapist is dope. I've been wanting to hang 1183 01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:58,600 Speaker 2: out with them. 1184 01:01:58,640 --> 01:01:59,920 Speaker 1: So is that allowed? 1185 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:00,280 Speaker 4: No? 1186 01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: But if you're not allowed, then what like what do 1187 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,160 Speaker 1: you do in this? 1188 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,400 Speaker 7: So my therapists moved to a different school and so like, 1189 01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,080 Speaker 7: technically if I happened to like email them and like 1190 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,360 Speaker 7: ask to get tacos, like it might be possible. 1191 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:17,600 Speaker 1: Is she still your therapist? 1192 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 2: He is not anymore. 1193 01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: Okay, so then then it's okay, right, Okay, So he 1194 01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: talked to me about her harassing him to dump me 1195 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 1: as it wasn't part of patient confidentiality? 1196 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 3: Is it not? 1197 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: If it's not in the session, maybe it's outside the session. Oh, 1198 01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,600 Speaker 1: Olivia Gray says, I'm a therapist and the ACA Ethical 1199 01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: Code says it's never allowed for the APA. It's five 1200 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 1: years after ending treatment with a client. I'd never entertained 1201 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: the thought of dating any of my clients. 1202 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:47,120 Speaker 3: Yikes. 1203 01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 2: Well, they're not dating their client. They're not dating they're. 1204 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,400 Speaker 1: Dating a client's friend and a half years. Two and 1205 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:59,479 Speaker 1: a half years to friends, half life for every degree 1206 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,439 Speaker 1: of separation from your original client. 1207 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 3: Yep, there we go. 1208 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,760 Speaker 1: He wanted to know if I felt the same way 1209 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: about him as he did about me, and if we 1210 01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:13,960 Speaker 1: had a future together, and I said yes. After that, 1211 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:17,560 Speaker 1: he recused himself from being her therapist and recommended one 1212 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 1: of his colleagues to her. Since then, Susan has been 1213 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 1: on a smear campaign against me and our tight knit 1214 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: group Since then, Susan has been on a smear campaign 1215 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:34,920 Speaker 1: against me, and our tight knit group isn't so tight anymore. 1216 01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 1: She didn't take him up on his recommendation, and due 1217 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 1: to being out of therapy, she started to drink again, 1218 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,400 Speaker 1: and one of our friends told me she rarely bathes 1219 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,600 Speaker 1: and other parts of her hygiene have suffered too. She 1220 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: has also skipped a lot of days of work and 1221 01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 1: might lose her job. She isn't faking her downward spiral, 1222 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,880 Speaker 1: but I can't go through with what she and her 1223 01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: other friends want me to do, which is end the 1224 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:00,520 Speaker 1: really relationship. 1225 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 3: Wow. 1226 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like it's almost like she has 1227 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 1: a choice between do I end this relationship and basically 1228 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,440 Speaker 1: contribute to getting my friend out of this downward spiral, 1229 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,160 Speaker 1: or do I keep the relationship and maybe contribute further 1230 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:16,600 Speaker 1: to the downward spiral. 1231 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 2: But why is Susan sticking with the therapist then? 1232 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: Because she's not in the right mind. 1233 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 2: Yeah she I mean, yeah, Susan. 1234 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: Commander Waddle says, Oh God, Susan is spiraling. And it's like, 1235 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,800 Speaker 1: I imagine it's really I mean, especially when you open 1236 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 1: up and you're in a really bad spot. I imagine 1237 01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 1: switching therapists can No, that's a lot. 1238 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,960 Speaker 7: It's really someone that you connect with and that you're 1239 01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,400 Speaker 7: comfortable feeling vulnerable with. So I mean it's yeah, it's tough. 1240 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, they say, he is just a man, and there 1241 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,560 Speaker 1: are millions of men out there for me, So why 1242 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,320 Speaker 1: won't I dump him for her? Aren't there a bunch 1243 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 1: of other therapists Susan? It took Susan this long to 1244 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,160 Speaker 1: find a good therapist, and it took her and and 1245 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 1: it took her an hour and a half to drive 1246 01:05:08,560 --> 01:05:10,680 Speaker 1: to him, but she did it despite the commute to 1247 01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: get better. According to them, she might not find a 1248 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,760 Speaker 1: good therapist closer or within that driving distance, and she 1249 01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 1: is exhausted all the nearby possibilities. They are telling me, 1250 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:27,720 Speaker 1: I am risking her life for a holiday fling. Am 1251 01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:32,280 Speaker 1: I the a hole for being the hurdle and her recovery? 1252 01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:38,720 Speaker 1: And there is a thick, juicy edit honestly feels more 1253 01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: like an update than an edit. But I'm gonna pause 1254 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,800 Speaker 1: right here please and ask that question, which is like 1255 01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,200 Speaker 1: one of the hardest questions. I mean, it's it truly 1256 01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:49,520 Speaker 1: feels like life and death. 1257 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,919 Speaker 2: This is a This is a really tough one. 1258 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, right now. 1259 01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,680 Speaker 2: I have no clue. I think, Yeah, there's just like 1260 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 2: everyone has a role in this situation. 1261 01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 1: Refer to Susan to zok docyd Yeah there's dude, what 1262 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 1: editor put zoc ez oc doc god right after the police. 1263 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,920 Speaker 7: Please feel like Susan is being a little bit like 1264 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,720 Speaker 7: vindictive though, you know, like because this whole like smear 1265 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,800 Speaker 7: campaign and like, yeah, this guy is a professional and 1266 01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:26,240 Speaker 7: it's also like their friend, you know, Like I feel 1267 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,680 Speaker 7: like maybe there's an intervention that needs to be staged 1268 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:30,680 Speaker 7: between the three of them. 1269 01:06:30,760 --> 01:06:33,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, here's what I feel. So I kind of almost 1270 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,360 Speaker 3: look at it as like when you're like be a 1271 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 3: citizen of a country, for example, you have like a 1272 01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 3: certain civic dude be like okay, like be a good 1273 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 3: member of your community and like vote and like these 1274 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 3: kinds so do make a reasonable effort to be a 1275 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 3: good contributing member to society. But then there comes a 1276 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,840 Speaker 3: point where it's like do I like do the absolute 1277 01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 3: most and like give up the most important things of 1278 01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 3: my life for. 1279 01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 1: And it sounds like this relationship is really it has 1280 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,760 Speaker 1: gone beyond just a holiday fling football people in this relationship, 1281 01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,680 Speaker 1: which is not I think how the friend group and 1282 01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,720 Speaker 1: Susan is looking at it. It's like, oh, like, why 1283 01:07:10,760 --> 01:07:13,480 Speaker 1: aren't you just ditching this holiday fling. Obviously you care 1284 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:16,840 Speaker 1: about Susan more than just some some guy that's slinging 1285 01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:20,920 Speaker 1: his wang around on Greece, but talk about it. But 1286 01:07:21,120 --> 01:07:23,280 Speaker 1: I think now it's reached a point where it's actually 1287 01:07:23,320 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 1: like super deep. So I think it's unfair for Susan 1288 01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 1: to ask that. But it's like, also, she's not in 1289 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 1: the right mind too, So. 1290 01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Opie, you know, go as 1291 01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 3: far as you can to help within that like reasonable amount, 1292 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 3: but at the end of the day, you can't like 1293 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 3: just snap your fingers and you know, control. And I 1294 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,120 Speaker 3: don't know that it's necessarily as tragic as it is 1295 01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 3: to say. I don't know if it's Opie's obligation. 1296 01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:57,040 Speaker 1: To And it's not like Opie said, oh, Susan, you 1297 01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 1: can't see my like like him as a therapist because 1298 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm dating him anymore. Like they made every like they 1299 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: tried as much as they could to make accommodations for 1300 01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,640 Speaker 1: Susan in this weird scenario, and she was like, I 1301 01:08:10,760 --> 01:08:14,160 Speaker 1: want him all to myself, And I think Riley highlighted 1302 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:17,160 Speaker 1: some comment that it was like maybe Susan is in 1303 01:08:17,320 --> 01:08:20,280 Speaker 1: love or obsessed in some way with the therapist. I 1304 01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 1: don't know if does that. 1305 01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:24,560 Speaker 7: I'm sure it does. But also keep in mind, like 1306 01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,040 Speaker 7: who knows what this person's mental health is, like great, 1307 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:28,000 Speaker 7: like they're in therapy. 1308 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,960 Speaker 2: Who knows for what could be mild, could be severe. 1309 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,160 Speaker 7: So I mean it's it's not uncommon for people to 1310 01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 7: feel like attached to their therapists, and so maybe they 1311 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,040 Speaker 7: feel like possessive towards their therapists. 1312 01:08:40,160 --> 01:08:40,760 Speaker 4: You know, who knows. 1313 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,760 Speaker 1: Well, I've heard a lot of people being possessive. I 1314 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 1: had a friend that didn't recommend or like, like a 1315 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:53,800 Speaker 1: friend was looking for a therapist and heard good things 1316 01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,519 Speaker 1: from her other friend about the therapist or friend was 1317 01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,439 Speaker 1: going to and was going to go and get her therapist, 1318 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,160 Speaker 1: and she's like, no, I don't want you having the same. 1319 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:01,640 Speaker 3: Therapist as me. 1320 01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, people are particular. 1321 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 1: So and I've never I haven't gone to like, I 1322 01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,559 Speaker 1: haven't had that relationship. I haven't really gone to therapy, 1323 01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,480 Speaker 1: and so I haven't had that relationship. But I imagine 1324 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,160 Speaker 1: if you're you know, spilling a lot of your internal 1325 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 1: truths for a long time there. It could be very 1326 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 1: natural to become attached to your therapist in that way. 1327 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:23,719 Speaker 3: I literally emailed my homies therapist to day right before 1328 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:30,640 Speaker 3: the stream really recommended Yeah, but yeah, I could say 1329 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 3: it happening a lot, But ultimately I would say not 1330 01:09:33,800 --> 01:09:37,120 Speaker 3: opis in the in the impossible choice, the impossible choices, 1331 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,280 Speaker 3: You're ultimately not completely responsible. 1332 01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:43,320 Speaker 1: Yeah for Susan's But Kristin Foyla says, regardless of the 1333 01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:46,799 Speaker 1: relationship with Ope, the therapist should absolutely cut off Susan 1334 01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,760 Speaker 1: as a patience. Transference is a thing, But how do 1335 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,280 Speaker 1: you do transference elegantly? 1336 01:09:52,920 --> 01:09:53,800 Speaker 4: Have you watched Monk? 1337 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:54,840 Speaker 3: I haven't. 1338 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:58,440 Speaker 1: He was pissed when he when he transferred therapists. 1339 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:00,720 Speaker 4: Just don't do that. Then thought you're better. 1340 01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 3: Nice. 1341 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,800 Speaker 1: Joh Riley blind B says ending a relationship isn't going 1342 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,679 Speaker 1: to change her downward spiral. She needs serious help. 1343 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 3: My question is what happens. Well, let's get into the edit. 1344 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,880 Speaker 1: So, so a lot of people misunderstood the timeline and 1345 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 1: are confused about HIPPA. I'll give some more info here. 1346 01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 1: I tried to post this earlier on but after typing 1347 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,439 Speaker 1: it out, it wouldn't post, so I'm trying again. I 1348 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,680 Speaker 1: did not date him for eleven days before she found out, 1349 01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,800 Speaker 1: unlike so many have posted here and the numerous people 1350 01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:35,759 Speaker 1: who have wished death upon me in the chat, because 1351 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 1: you know how Reddit goes crazy. We were together for 1352 01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:40,519 Speaker 1: those eleven days in Greece, and then we dated for 1353 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:43,080 Speaker 1: two months before she figured out my new boyfriend was 1354 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,000 Speaker 1: her therapist. During those two months, we spent almost every 1355 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,800 Speaker 1: evening together and the weekends too. I guess you can 1356 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,280 Speaker 1: call it speed racing a relationship to be fair relationships 1357 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,479 Speaker 1: while traveling our speed runs because instead of having like 1358 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,599 Speaker 1: four dates in a month, you have living together. Yeah 1359 01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:05,960 Speaker 1: you're yep, yep. John's referring to my girlfriend about that. 1360 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:07,320 Speaker 1: We did for a month, but we saw each other 1361 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:08,400 Speaker 1: every day and up together. 1362 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,080 Speaker 4: We're together for three years. 1363 01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:13,639 Speaker 1: Yeah three honestly if you like, if you're seeing each 1364 01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:18,000 Speaker 1: other once a week, kind of similar amount of time spent. Okay, 1365 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:21,240 Speaker 1: but I have never met anyone like him before, and 1366 01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,080 Speaker 1: he feels the same about me. The first session after 1367 01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 1: it clicked for her, she used to tell him to 1368 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 1: dump me. So first session after it clicked, he's like, 1369 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,680 Speaker 1: dump dump her right now, he never told me she 1370 01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:36,960 Speaker 1: uh this because she was his patient. She outed herself 1371 01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,000 Speaker 1: as his patient the next two sessions they had. She 1372 01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,360 Speaker 1: also used to convince him to dump me while he 1373 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,760 Speaker 1: was trying to help her to transition to someone else, 1374 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 1: but she spent the time to convince him to dump me. 1375 01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,760 Speaker 1: He told me all of this, and a lot of 1376 01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:54,439 Speaker 1: our mutual friends referred to this because obviously she shared 1377 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 1: this info with them, So I think that's an important distinction. 1378 01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:02,920 Speaker 1: The information wasn't leaking from the therapist Opie's boyfriend, It 1379 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,599 Speaker 1: was leaking through Susan. 1380 01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:07,799 Speaker 3: Maybe she should she keep some fish confidential. Yeah, Susan. 1381 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: The fourth session didn't even start because she had the 1382 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,960 Speaker 1: jacket on and hadn't even closed the door before she 1383 01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:18,920 Speaker 1: went full nu nuclear about reporting him for dating someone 1384 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:22,519 Speaker 1: from her close social circle, something she had mentioned in 1385 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,680 Speaker 1: the first session too. He didn't get paid for it, 1386 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 1: even though legally he could, despite it not counting as 1387 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:30,360 Speaker 1: a session. Four sessions in two and a half weeks. 1388 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 1: He wasn't stringing her along for a long time before 1389 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:36,680 Speaker 1: letting her go. This smear campaign started almost immediately, and 1390 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:41,520 Speaker 1: it has lasted three out of five months of my relationship. 1391 01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 3: With him. 1392 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:46,360 Speaker 1: Oh, he works in a building that is subsidized by 1393 01:12:46,520 --> 01:12:49,000 Speaker 1: the branch that is responsible for health in our country, 1394 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,720 Speaker 1: but they also take private clients patients. As there are 1395 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,799 Speaker 1: a few other types of health workers, including specialized nurses, 1396 01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:57,680 Speaker 1: they have people that are regulators of the practice. He 1397 01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,560 Speaker 1: went to one of his senior colleagues and one of 1398 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,439 Speaker 1: the regular therapists with an administrative role that also provide 1399 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 1: therapy for those that work in the field. After confirming 1400 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 1: that he could discuss this issue with me, he mentioned 1401 01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,280 Speaker 1: about the harassment in the last session. Because it is 1402 01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:15,520 Speaker 1: not called for because it is not covered under patient confidentiality, 1403 01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,520 Speaker 1: the session wasn't even regarded as a session. This regulator 1404 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,520 Speaker 1: told him to tell me about the harassment as significant 1405 01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,879 Speaker 1: others can be targeted by patients see below for more details. 1406 01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 3: So real quick by understanding of that is basically like 1407 01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,240 Speaker 3: the officials are telling him, You are telling the therapist 1408 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,320 Speaker 3: you haven't done anything wrong. You have what you haven't 1409 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 3: done anything? 1410 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,360 Speaker 1: Yes, you haven't done anything wrong. And you can tell your. 1411 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,920 Speaker 2: Significant other partner because you're in danger. 1412 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the part yeah, like you're in danger and 1413 01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,040 Speaker 1: the partners in danger because like patients like this can 1414 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:52,280 Speaker 1: target significant others right right. Him coming to me and 1415 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,760 Speaker 1: asking me about our future is something I worked out 1416 01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,519 Speaker 1: after the fact of the timeline of events. He was 1417 01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:00,760 Speaker 1: intent on stopping to see her anyways when I told 1418 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,479 Speaker 1: him he was her therapist, but when I did, he 1419 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:06,680 Speaker 1: neither confirmed or denied it. Also, I really want to 1420 01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:09,240 Speaker 1: quickly say, they must like each other a lot to 1421 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,759 Speaker 1: endure all this and keep together. 1422 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, so true. 1423 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 1: So it must be hella deep because if it was 1424 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,519 Speaker 1: just like, oh, I'm not sure, like maybe they would 1425 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:19,000 Speaker 1: have broken up. 1426 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:23,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. She I'm gonna go through three months of absolute torture. Yeah, dude, 1427 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:24,320 Speaker 3: know that. 1428 01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm honestly like, I'm shipping them more and more. 1429 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 2: He likes her, yeah, he. 1430 01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:33,719 Speaker 1: Only after the fourth session did he mention the harassment 1431 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,439 Speaker 1: because his workplace wanted texts confirming that she had outed 1432 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:39,519 Speaker 1: herself in case she wanted to make a false claim. 1433 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,640 Speaker 1: I didn't type out every detail, as I wanted to 1434 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,840 Speaker 1: give a quicker, shorter version of the read due to 1435 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:46,280 Speaker 1: an incident in our country where a mental health worker's 1436 01:14:46,360 --> 01:14:50,559 Speaker 1: son was poked with a sharp object by a patient 1437 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:54,160 Speaker 1: that stalked him home and started harassing him. Certain things 1438 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,639 Speaker 1: are not covered under patient confidentiality as she outed herself, 1439 01:14:57,840 --> 01:15:00,240 Speaker 1: and he hasn't mentioned anything. I don't know how things 1440 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,439 Speaker 1: work in your country, but everyone does not live in 1441 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:05,920 Speaker 1: the USA. Legally, he hasn't broken any laws, as significant 1442 01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:08,719 Speaker 1: others can and do get notified if there are concerns. 1443 01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:11,040 Speaker 1: This is why they advise therapists not to have recent 1444 01:15:11,160 --> 01:15:14,400 Speaker 1: pictures of children and not to use their legal names 1445 01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:17,200 Speaker 1: for social media that can be used to track their 1446 01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 1: daily routine. There are other safeguards too, Is that true? 1447 01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:24,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean honestly, I sometimes I'm like scared for 1448 01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,680 Speaker 7: the future, Like yeah, yeah, because there's patients that I 1449 01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:32,400 Speaker 7: mean have done really like crazy stuff too, like they'll 1450 01:15:32,439 --> 01:15:35,960 Speaker 7: follow like find out where you live. I mean keep 1451 01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:37,880 Speaker 7: in mind, like we're treating people that are like really 1452 01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:41,120 Speaker 7: stick yeah, randon. This is like most like therapists, like 1453 01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:44,040 Speaker 7: you know, you're not dealing with like a key like 1454 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:45,960 Speaker 7: psychotic patients. 1455 01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:49,080 Speaker 2: You know there's levels and stuff, but like you never. 1456 01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 7: Know what's gonna happen. And like if someone you can 1457 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,280 Speaker 7: just Google search anything and like find my information, you. 1458 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:56,320 Speaker 2: Know, like you never know. 1459 01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,800 Speaker 1: Is that something that like you've you're you're thinking about, 1460 01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:04,640 Speaker 1: are thinking about of having some level of anonymity on 1461 01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,120 Speaker 1: the internet about like who you are and what you do, 1462 01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:10,559 Speaker 1: or at least about your like like at least familial 1463 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,040 Speaker 1: and anonymity. 1464 01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 7: Well, I feel like I used to post a lot 1465 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 7: more on social media before I started med school, and 1466 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:21,400 Speaker 7: then during med school I still posted a little bit, 1467 01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 7: but I actually have like stopped posting a lot because 1468 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:29,880 Speaker 7: I feel like kind of weird, like I'm being perceived 1469 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,959 Speaker 7: not only by my colleagues but also potentially my patience. 1470 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,599 Speaker 2: And again like I am not I will graduate in May. 1471 01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:41,760 Speaker 7: I'm not a physician yet, but it is a thing 1472 01:16:41,880 --> 01:16:44,679 Speaker 7: that I think about, and so I feel like everything 1473 01:16:44,720 --> 01:16:47,679 Speaker 7: that I post online like I just are cautious about. 1474 01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:52,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, welcome to an internet show. I know I am. 1475 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,680 Speaker 1: So there are other safeguards too, So stop saying he 1476 01:16:57,800 --> 01:16:59,519 Speaker 1: broke the law. I am a significant other and he 1477 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,640 Speaker 1: only meant the harassment after okaying it with work, so 1478 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,960 Speaker 1: I could be aware for my own safety. The bigger 1479 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:06,439 Speaker 1: city I am in is not a metropolis like New 1480 01:17:06,520 --> 01:17:08,600 Speaker 1: York or Tokyo. My country only has a handful of 1481 01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,559 Speaker 1: millions in the entire country. The bigger city is bigger 1482 01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 1: than the previous one, but a lot of you would 1483 01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,080 Speaker 1: probably call it a small city. The fact that I 1484 01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,120 Speaker 1: would bump into someone from my country in that region 1485 01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,479 Speaker 1: of the world, which is probably the number one holiday 1486 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 1: destination for my people, are high, even higher when we 1487 01:17:23,320 --> 01:17:25,479 Speaker 1: both live in the city closest to the airport. I 1488 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,759 Speaker 1: hope this clears things up. And this is all to answer, 1489 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,160 Speaker 1: is it important for your friends to get along with 1490 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:35,479 Speaker 1: your partner? Also, we're a live right now, so you know, 1491 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,599 Speaker 1: come join the live kick click or profile. 1492 01:17:37,880 --> 01:17:38,280 Speaker 3: There we go. 1493 01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:42,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, what a complex problem. 1494 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,719 Speaker 3: I think. I think what we've learned from the situation 1495 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:49,439 Speaker 3: is that therapists and psychiatrists should take their clients' phones 1496 01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:54,519 Speaker 3: and hit up every single person looking for a partner, because, wow, 1497 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:57,439 Speaker 3: what a relationship that has stood the test. 1498 01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, screw Tinder, screw and you just take 1499 01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:05,960 Speaker 1: your class just bulk you know those like old school 1500 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:10,040 Speaker 1: like bulk email chains and stuff. Just just like no, 1501 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,040 Speaker 1: but it does I feel it like it speaks to 1502 01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:20,599 Speaker 1: how strong their connection is that they are enduring all 1503 01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 1: of this. 1504 01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:22,439 Speaker 2: And he's a good therapist. 1505 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean the fact that he was able to 1506 01:18:24,479 --> 01:18:28,080 Speaker 7: like maintain that confidentiality for that long, Like that's that's great. 1507 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,960 Speaker 1: He's doing everything right. Yeah, he's doing everything right, So 1508 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,920 Speaker 1: shout out him, Susan. I hope you find the help 1509 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,000 Speaker 1: that you need. 1510 01:18:36,479 --> 01:18:39,439 Speaker 2: We support you, Susan and Op. 1511 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,320 Speaker 3: I'm sorry you got in the middle. Just just truly 1512 01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:43,560 Speaker 3: an innocent bystander. 1513 01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:46,759 Speaker 1: Who would you least want to be in this story? 1514 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:53,160 Speaker 7: Well, the thing is, it depends how bad this campaign is, 1515 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,160 Speaker 7: because I wouldn't want to be the therapist if this 1516 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:59,560 Speaker 7: is actually like threatening their job. Yeah, who knows what 1517 01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 7: this person is doing. But also I feel like the 1518 01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,240 Speaker 7: friend is like, well, I feel like she's kind of 1519 01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:09,160 Speaker 7: wishy washy and like how much she wants to like 1520 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,760 Speaker 7: do for this. I feel like she's even acknowledging that 1521 01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:12,600 Speaker 7: Susan's kind of. 1522 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,560 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I think she well, I think at this 1523 01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,400 Speaker 1: point she's like, I'm distancing things. 1524 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:17,320 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. 1525 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,439 Speaker 7: So it's like, you know, I think Susan's kind of 1526 01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:22,920 Speaker 7: unfortunately cast aside getting the short end of the stick 1527 01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,840 Speaker 7: because it's not her fault that that they're you know, 1528 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,439 Speaker 7: that her best friend fell in love with the therapist 1529 01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:29,839 Speaker 7: and now it's just kind of ruined. 1530 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like things suck most for Susan, But 1531 01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 1: like they didn't. You know, Opie and the boyfriend didn't 1532 01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 1: do anything wrong. 1533 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:39,680 Speaker 3: They didn't do anything right, and they were they were 1534 01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 3: punished for doing nothing. 1535 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:48,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, basically, but that's where the story ends. But we 1536 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,120 Speaker 1: have more stories for y'all, don't you worry. But before 1537 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:56,920 Speaker 1: we do, let's read the doto. Sammy, I'm doing good everyone. 1538 01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,720 Speaker 1: No spider is going to take this male carrier out. 1539 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:03,040 Speaker 1: There has been calls of getting rear ended in side swipe, 1540 01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,840 Speaker 1: but no bug is going to take me out. I 1541 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,800 Speaker 1: do have a dash cam in my male vehicle and 1542 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:10,559 Speaker 1: a personal Vehl Kill to keep me safe. I feel 1543 01:20:10,640 --> 01:20:13,320 Speaker 1: like if you have any driving job, dash cam is 1544 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:18,720 Speaker 1: absolutely necessary. And Sammy, thanks for the five gifted membership. 1545 01:20:20,200 --> 01:20:24,800 Speaker 1: We appreciate you. Duchess Cassanda five months of membership. My 1546 01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:33,120 Speaker 1: frame costs six thousand dollars, king size, solid hardwood, two bedsides. 1547 01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,440 Speaker 1: It comes with smart ports and lights for our devices. 1548 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:39,800 Speaker 1: Also like the stream you guys, you even want to 1549 01:20:39,880 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 1: spin that wheel once we get to seven hundred and 1550 01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:42,600 Speaker 1: fifty legs come on. 1551 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 4: And Duchess is in Australia. 1552 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:49,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's but still six thousand dollars for freakin' 1553 01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:52,919 Speaker 1: oh well, maybe it costs more to ship stuff to Australia. 1554 01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:53,280 Speaker 4: Maybe. 1555 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 3: If there's one thing I've learned today, it is that 1556 01:20:57,040 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 3: all therapists and psychiatry should hit up all of their 1557 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:00,679 Speaker 3: clients for for lifetime. 1558 01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,599 Speaker 1: And there are such expensive bed frames. I never would 1559 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:07,639 Speaker 1: have imagined. Yeah, I did not have a bed frame 1560 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 1: for years. They tell you, last year you saved thousand, 1561 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,439 Speaker 1: thousands of dollars. Now I have a bed frame. Now 1562 01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,720 Speaker 1: it came with the house. I wonder how much that 1563 01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:18,559 Speaker 1: bed frame gots. 1564 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,280 Speaker 3: Probably one hundred thousand dollars. Who knows. 1565 01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:22,720 Speaker 4: I don't have a bed frame. 1566 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:24,920 Speaker 3: You see, yes, you do. 1567 01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:25,880 Speaker 1: You have my bed frame. 1568 01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:27,200 Speaker 4: That's a bed frame. 1569 01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:28,160 Speaker 3: It is a bed frame. 1570 01:21:28,320 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 1: I sleep on the ground. What do you mean it 1571 01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:34,920 Speaker 1: has it's just very thin. It like it's like wood, 1572 01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:36,280 Speaker 1: but it's on the ground. 1573 01:21:36,880 --> 01:21:38,400 Speaker 4: I basically have a mattress on the ground. 1574 01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,040 Speaker 3: But it's you have a frame like the. 1575 01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:49,720 Speaker 2: Personal persons, Oh yeah, yeah, the containers. Yeah, pallett. 1576 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:53,879 Speaker 1: It's like a fancy palate. It's it's not just a palette. 1577 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:55,320 Speaker 2: It's a pillow palette. 1578 01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 3: Christian full hat. They said five gifted membership. A lot 1579 01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,640 Speaker 3: of gifted memberships, streams yeah, and thank you for the 1580 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,519 Speaker 3: ten dollars tip from shy with no common attachment, no 1581 01:22:09,640 --> 01:22:13,040 Speaker 3: content maybe and then drop. 1582 01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:16,720 Speaker 1: Some Saturns in the chat, because saturns in the chat, 1583 01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:18,960 Speaker 1: you have to We have gone into inter collect a 1584 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:27,320 Speaker 1: hyper joy. The Fox four three two one ten gifted memberships. 1585 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:28,800 Speaker 3: Has been donated today. 1586 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:29,240 Speaker 4: Let's go. 1587 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,920 Speaker 3: Thank you Bella for the five buck tip on the 1588 01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,080 Speaker 3: donal link. Hello Nuby and welcome guys. Is stuff not 1589 01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:41,920 Speaker 3: just crashing the absolute thor's hammer of invitable commentary? What 1590 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:43,160 Speaker 3: a perfect sactor. 1591 01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,560 Speaker 1: You've dropped Saturns in the chat, Drop some docs in 1592 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,680 Speaker 1: the chat, doctors in their chat. Doctors. 1593 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:51,240 Speaker 3: She will be one in May. 1594 01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:55,320 Speaker 2: Yes, she'll report me on this show. 1595 01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,479 Speaker 3: She is one. Yeah, I don't care. She's my doctor. 1596 01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:03,240 Speaker 3: I am by the Johns, certified born of me. You 1597 01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:04,600 Speaker 3: are doctor? No? 1598 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 1: No, no, you doctor? 1599 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:09,479 Speaker 3: You're a John doctor? Can you? Yeah? 1600 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:09,880 Speaker 6: There we go? 1601 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:19,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's John doctor and uh oh kimberly fine celebrating 1602 01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:22,479 Speaker 3: five minutes of membership. Can Steph get doctor Romani on 1603 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 3: stream because my brain would explode? Who is that? 1604 01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:27,920 Speaker 2: I can pretend to be them? 1605 01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:28,720 Speaker 1: Who's that? 1606 01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:29,280 Speaker 3: There? 1607 01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:30,719 Speaker 2: Can make your brain explode? 1608 01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,400 Speaker 3: You can play a doctor on her mind. Yes, let 1609 01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:36,000 Speaker 3: us know who that is. Maybe that's a good guest 1610 01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:37,560 Speaker 3: that we should get on the show. I don't know. 1611 01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:38,960 Speaker 1: Have you heard of doctor Romani? 1612 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:40,519 Speaker 2: No, but I will look them up after this. 1613 01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:42,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, guys, hit hit. 1614 01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:45,800 Speaker 1: The doctor, Cody Brady. This is not Sam's nurse. No, 1615 01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:51,400 Speaker 1: this is my my friend's girlfriend. Yes, I went on 1616 01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:52,559 Speaker 1: a date with a nurse yesterday. 1617 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:58,439 Speaker 2: Oh oh they meant that. Yeah, this is my best friend. 1618 01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:03,000 Speaker 1: In law friend e Shawn's girlfriend. Uh, you'll, you'll you 1619 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 1: would see him on my Instagram. He's also in my 1620 01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:10,639 Speaker 1: dating profile in the background. In the background is feature. 1621 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:11,880 Speaker 2: But he's not available. 1622 01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 1: He's not available. He's very taken. He is lostrely taken. 1623 01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,200 Speaker 1: Locky the one of the healthiest relationships that I know, 1624 01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:20,439 Speaker 1: by the way I look at them, and I'm like, 1625 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:27,559 Speaker 1: I want that. Oh so literally, doctor giving relationship a brain. 1626 01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:32,200 Speaker 1: Doctor who's in a healthy relationship, giving a relationship advice. 1627 01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:35,240 Speaker 3: She was born to be here. Wow, born to be here. 1628 01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,479 Speaker 2: I'm so happy. Yeah, I'm so happy I could be here. 1629 01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,640 Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm happy to be here for 1630 01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:52,160 Speaker 1: what this next story? Where's John's phone? Oh you're breezy, 1631 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,880 Speaker 1: bree eight, says, bring her back, please, she hasn't left, 1632 01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:55,599 Speaker 1: she's still here. 1633 01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 3: She's right there. Don't manifest the wrong thing. It's a 1634 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,760 Speaker 3: under the couch. I hit it your. 1635 01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,400 Speaker 1: Breezy bree says, But she is also probably incredibly busy. 1636 01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:12,680 Speaker 1: What you think doctors work? Come on, some descriptions. 1637 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:12,920 Speaker 4: Come on. 1638 01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I supposed to wear this outfit. FYI, I did 1639 01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:17,080 Speaker 2: have a change of clothes. 1640 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,240 Speaker 1: It works so well, you look so official. 1641 01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:21,840 Speaker 3: Yes, what is it again? 1642 01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,080 Speaker 4: Rally A six fifty three? 1643 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:30,320 Speaker 1: Yep, thanks, partner, that's fifty three? All right, three, let's 1644 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,120 Speaker 1: do it. Let's do it, partner. Is it going to 1645 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:33,479 Speaker 1: be another psychiatrist story? 1646 01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,920 Speaker 3: Because of it is really hilarious. Well, let's see, I 1647 01:25:39,120 --> 01:25:43,600 Speaker 3: dated my friend's therapist, even though she begs me not to. No, 1648 01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:47,040 Speaker 3: I just read that. Yep, I asked if it was 1649 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:50,479 Speaker 3: that one. Oh sorry, okay, here we go. Are you ready? 1650 01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:53,880 Speaker 3: Let's do it. I'm on the right one now, thank you. 1651 01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,160 Speaker 3: I told my roommate I don't cook for her. Now 1652 01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,360 Speaker 3: she won't talk to me. 1653 01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,560 Speaker 1: Your roommate is your than cook? Doesn't she know that? 1654 01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:01,720 Speaker 4: No? 1655 01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:02,599 Speaker 2: Your mom. 1656 01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,599 Speaker 3: And this answer the question is it important for your 1657 01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,040 Speaker 3: friends to get along? With your partner. I have thoughts 1658 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,040 Speaker 3: on that. This comes from haunting Athlete nine fifty one, 1659 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:13,840 Speaker 3: who says, I twenty one male, and my girlfriend E, 1660 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,160 Speaker 3: twenty female, lived together with a roommate, a thirty one female. 1661 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:22,639 Speaker 3: We all contribute equally to our monthly house food, food 1662 01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:26,280 Speaker 3: meant for everyone, not one specific person budget. We can 1663 01:26:26,400 --> 01:26:28,920 Speaker 3: still have our own food. It is. It is not illegal. 1664 01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,640 Speaker 4: Communists talk about it. 1665 01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:36,320 Speaker 1: Riley my favorite communist dude. Absolutely do you think a 1666 01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:40,040 Speaker 1: red mic talk about it? And as long as we communicate, 1667 01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:43,720 Speaker 1: so nobody eats anyone else's food. A couple of weeks ago, 1668 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:48,400 Speaker 1: I made myself and my girlfriend E some spaghetti with. 1669 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:49,479 Speaker 3: The house food. 1670 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,200 Speaker 1: Okay, so there's house food that everyone contributes to, and 1671 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:53,600 Speaker 1: then there's like my. 1672 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,880 Speaker 3: Food food me food, don't touch up. 1673 01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,479 Speaker 1: That's such an interesting way of doing I've never heard 1674 01:26:58,520 --> 01:26:58,720 Speaker 1: of that. 1675 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:00,800 Speaker 3: It. 1676 01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:03,240 Speaker 1: Wait, we all just buy our own food. Oh yeah, yeah, 1677 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,000 Speaker 1: I've never heard of house. 1678 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,080 Speaker 7: Oh house food? Oh yeah eean did that with meat? 1679 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:13,280 Speaker 7: They had some like communal foods, what like frozen random 1680 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:14,960 Speaker 7: things and eggs. 1681 01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,719 Speaker 1: I guess you know, eggs are a good communal food. 1682 01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,559 Speaker 2: But honestly, I prefer doing like our own. 1683 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, the like, oh, like, hey, can I borrow some 1684 01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:24,560 Speaker 1: of this? 1685 01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:24,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 1686 01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,439 Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, it all go bad. 1687 01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:29,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, no one will know, yeah exactly. I feel like 1688 01:27:29,920 --> 01:27:33,639 Speaker 1: the communal food either gets eaten too quickly or goes rotten. 1689 01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,160 Speaker 3: System milk milk. 1690 01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:39,519 Speaker 4: If someone had communal milk, Like we'll say someone bought 1691 01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,040 Speaker 4: two gallons of milk and you know they're not going 1692 01:27:41,080 --> 01:27:43,240 Speaker 4: to drink it before they leave, and you just have 1693 01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:45,799 Speaker 4: a bowl of cereal that you need to milk for potatoes. 1694 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:48,559 Speaker 3: Should be able to. 1695 01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:52,960 Speaker 2: Share if you're in need. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 1696 01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,960 Speaker 1: I Riley use some of my milk, which I am 1697 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,680 Speaker 1: okay with, and even it would be thirty cents for it, 1698 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,080 Speaker 1: And I'm like, what are you doing? You can you 1699 01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:03,559 Speaker 1: can just take my milk. 1700 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,920 Speaker 3: Let's hoard all your resources for ourselves. That's what I'm saying. 1701 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,200 Speaker 1: Riley used my milk down my teeth. Oh, I want 1702 01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,280 Speaker 1: you to be a big strong boy. Good good. I 1703 01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:13,720 Speaker 1: have two gallons, I know. 1704 01:28:17,080 --> 01:28:20,920 Speaker 3: Anyways, So a couple of weeks ago, I made myself 1705 01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,040 Speaker 3: my girlfriend eat some spaghetti with the house food, just 1706 01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:27,960 Speaker 3: noodles and generic brand canned sauce. Nothing fancy, quick and easy, 1707 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:29,280 Speaker 3: because I was feeling lazy. 1708 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:29,880 Speaker 1: Uh. 1709 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,800 Speaker 3: My roommate a was at work until late that night, 1710 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,200 Speaker 3: and myself and my girlfriend ended up finishing all the spaghetti. 1711 01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:42,360 Speaker 3: When my roommate Alan came home, she saw the dirty 1712 01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:48,160 Speaker 3: pot in the sink and made a comment, Elena, there 1713 01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 3: we go, there we go. I asked if she wanted 1714 01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:53,000 Speaker 3: me to save some for her next time I made it, 1715 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,720 Speaker 3: but she really didn't give me a straight answer. I 1716 01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,840 Speaker 3: got the feeling that she wanted me to, though, so 1717 01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,120 Speaker 3: I made a mental note to do that next time 1718 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,920 Speaker 3: I made spaghetti, and I moved on now. A few 1719 01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:10,000 Speaker 3: days later, I made some pork chops again, nothing fancy, 1720 01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:13,719 Speaker 3: and my girlfriend Edith wasn't hungry and didn't eat her portion. 1721 01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:18,640 Speaker 3: She just chose the oldest name ever, Edith. It's thinkable me. 1722 01:29:19,680 --> 01:29:21,880 Speaker 3: Who's who's eating one of the kids. 1723 01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:23,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really popping right now. 1724 01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:28,080 Speaker 1: Oh dude, despicable. Me just gave a refresh to the 1725 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:31,240 Speaker 1: name Edith. I bet you a bunch of kids are 1726 01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,040 Speaker 1: going to be named Edith now, And yet you mock 1727 01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:35,320 Speaker 1: my choice. I did. 1728 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,880 Speaker 3: I did because it is the oldest sounding name. Shame 1729 01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,040 Speaker 3: on you. Maybe it was one of your peers when 1730 01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:46,200 Speaker 3: you were growing up, but nine nice get them. So 1731 01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:49,040 Speaker 3: Edith wasn't hungry and didn't eat her portion, so I 1732 01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:51,760 Speaker 3: offered it to my girlfriend Elena when she came home. 1733 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,320 Speaker 3: She accepted. However, when she put the food in the 1734 01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,560 Speaker 3: microwave to warm it, she made a face as the 1735 01:29:57,680 --> 01:30:00,560 Speaker 3: smell hit her. She tried to not let me see it, 1736 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,840 Speaker 3: but I could tell that she wasn't thrilled. She took 1737 01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,320 Speaker 3: the food into her room to eat, which isn't unusual 1738 01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,680 Speaker 3: for her, so I don't know if she finished it 1739 01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,880 Speaker 3: or what. Since then, whenever we're in the kitchen together 1740 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,880 Speaker 3: and I'm cooking, she's been kind of hovering over my 1741 01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,240 Speaker 3: shoulder and trying to give me advice on how to 1742 01:30:17,360 --> 01:30:18,360 Speaker 3: season my food. 1743 01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:21,120 Speaker 1: Oh, so Edith is like, dude, you're cooking. 1744 01:30:21,320 --> 01:30:24,760 Speaker 2: Thanks, I'm confused. 1745 01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:29,960 Speaker 1: What you're confused? We have never been confused in any 1746 01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:31,920 Speaker 1: story ever. We have perfect reading one. 1747 01:30:34,880 --> 01:30:36,880 Speaker 3: All the time that are like, Wow, you guys don't 1748 01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:37,639 Speaker 3: understand the story. 1749 01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:39,760 Speaker 1: It's not like we have to repeat parts of the 1750 01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,080 Speaker 1: stories because we don't understand. 1751 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:43,800 Speaker 4: It's not like we have a white board to help you. 1752 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:46,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not like we have Sophia's unfinished or finished 1753 01:30:46,800 --> 01:30:49,719 Speaker 1: thoughts that literally baps out stories for us. So let's 1754 01:30:49,760 --> 01:30:50,720 Speaker 1: let's talk about it, let's do it. 1755 01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,120 Speaker 3: We'll do it. We often don't know what's going on, 1756 01:30:53,439 --> 01:30:59,280 Speaker 3: so literally we'll do what's happening. So basically, we have 1757 01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,960 Speaker 3: Elena who is sorry, Edith who is the girlfriend, and Elena, 1758 01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,560 Speaker 3: who is the roommate. By the way, I should know, 1759 01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,599 Speaker 3: OP and the girlfriend twenty one and twenty The roommate 1760 01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,479 Speaker 3: a thirty one thirty one. 1761 01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm getting some generational okay, like, is the roommate like, hey, like, 1762 01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:19,519 Speaker 1: I'm let me, let me help you out. 1763 01:31:20,040 --> 01:31:22,400 Speaker 7: Okay, wait wait wait wait, but she's the thirty one 1764 01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:25,519 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, mad is mad at the cooking? 1765 01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:26,200 Speaker 3: Yes? 1766 01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:28,760 Speaker 2: Yes, right, because it's not season how ope? 1767 01:31:28,880 --> 01:31:29,200 Speaker 3: How cool? 1768 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,400 Speaker 1: How old is opgun twenty two twenty and twenty one 1769 01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,519 Speaker 1: twenty so opp is twenty one. 1770 01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:35,320 Speaker 3: Op is twenty one. 1771 01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:40,320 Speaker 1: I think I think the the roommate is probably maybe 1772 01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,720 Speaker 1: like is maybe just being like, let me teach you 1773 01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:46,840 Speaker 1: how to make some good food because you suck at 1774 01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:52,280 Speaker 1: making food. It sounds like benevolent, okay, whoa could be 1775 01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:54,800 Speaker 1: or could be? Also, I would just like to point 1776 01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,840 Speaker 1: out that sometimes these stories are so complex even doctors 1777 01:31:58,880 --> 01:31:59,760 Speaker 1: can't understand them. 1778 01:32:00,120 --> 01:32:03,320 Speaker 3: Got some slash slide. 1779 01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:04,599 Speaker 2: Nobody's perfect. 1780 01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, So doooo where am i? Riley? Give me your 1781 01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:14,880 Speaker 3: beautiful little head on wherever I'm at? So beautiful zoom, 1782 01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,160 Speaker 3: give me that head? Give it to me? Where is it? 1783 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,080 Speaker 3: Showed it to you? Where? 1784 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:20,240 Speaker 1: Oh? 1785 01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:22,000 Speaker 3: I see it? A few days later, I made some 1786 01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,960 Speaker 3: pork pork chops, again, nothing fancy. Edith wasn't hungry and 1787 01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,040 Speaker 3: deneed her portion, so I offered it to Elena. When 1788 01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:30,120 Speaker 3: she came home, she accepted it. Okay, So she accepted it. However, 1789 01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:31,840 Speaker 3: when she put it in the microwave to warm it, 1790 01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:33,760 Speaker 3: she made a face as the smell hit her. So 1791 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,599 Speaker 3: it's the girlfriend who is not vibing with the food 1792 01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:39,200 Speaker 3: right now. At this point in the. 1793 01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:42,280 Speaker 2: Story, I thought Edith was the girlfriend. 1794 01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 3: I think Edith the girl, and. 1795 01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:48,479 Speaker 7: She didn't want the food, so Elena I offered it, 1796 01:32:48,800 --> 01:32:50,920 Speaker 7: offered it to Elena, and Elena heated it up. 1797 01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:54,280 Speaker 2: Yes, and now she's naked a stank okay, so Elena? Yeah? Yeah? 1798 01:32:54,360 --> 01:32:59,120 Speaker 1: So wait Elena, No, no, Elena, Wait, Edith is the girlfriend. 1799 01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:04,479 Speaker 1: Sorry wait, I'm Edith. Elena is the thirty one year 1800 01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:08,840 Speaker 1: old roommate that's teaching ope how to make food. Elena's 1801 01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:11,720 Speaker 1: like put in the microwave, and Edith is like ew, 1802 01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:15,840 Speaker 1: that smells bat Oh, No, Elena's like you that smells God. 1803 01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:17,320 Speaker 1: But Elena put it in the microwave. 1804 01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:19,240 Speaker 3: Let me let me read it back the time when 1805 01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:21,120 Speaker 3: I say, my girlfriend in my roommate. Okay, A few 1806 01:33:21,160 --> 01:33:23,920 Speaker 3: days later, I made some port chalks. Again, nothing fancy, 1807 01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:29,720 Speaker 3: nothing fancy at all, but my girlfriend ateieth my girlfriend either, 1808 01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,400 Speaker 3: she wasn't hungry and she didn't eat her portion. So 1809 01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,920 Speaker 3: I offered it to my roommate Elena when she came home. 1810 01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:39,320 Speaker 3: My roommate Elena accepted it. However, when she put the 1811 01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,040 Speaker 3: food in the microwave to warm it, she made a 1812 01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:44,000 Speaker 3: face as the smell hit her. She tried. My roommate 1813 01:33:44,040 --> 01:33:46,439 Speaker 3: Elena tried to not let me see it, but I 1814 01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,920 Speaker 3: could tell that my roommate Helena was not thrilled. She 1815 01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:52,040 Speaker 3: took the food into a room to eat, which isn't 1816 01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:54,080 Speaker 3: unusual for her, so I don't know if she finished 1817 01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:54,400 Speaker 3: it or what. 1818 01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,599 Speaker 1: Okay, so roommate Elena is just like this is gross. 1819 01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:00,000 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, since then, whenever in the kitchen to get 1820 01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:02,439 Speaker 3: and I'm cooking, she's been kind of hovering over my 1821 01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,000 Speaker 3: shoulder and trying to give me advice on how to 1822 01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:07,280 Speaker 3: season my food. And honestly, sometimes it's good advice. I'm 1823 01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,479 Speaker 3: one of those people who've used cooking as a constant 1824 01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:15,600 Speaker 3: learning thing, so I don't mind taking suggestions. However, she 1825 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,639 Speaker 3: gave me an attitude whenever I didn't do something how 1826 01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:22,040 Speaker 3: she wanted or liked. It was always subtle and unspoken 1827 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:26,600 Speaker 3: until yesterday. Uh oh, I was making spaghetti again, the 1828 01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:33,400 Speaker 3: steaky spaghetti when I may. When I make spaghetti, I 1829 01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,800 Speaker 3: keep noodles in the sauce separate so everyone can choose 1830 01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,120 Speaker 3: how much sauce they want. 1831 01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:44,200 Speaker 4: I've seen this before, you have, Yeah, really? Yeah, sorry, 1832 01:34:44,240 --> 01:34:46,240 Speaker 4: there's this this reddits story where this guy would keep 1833 01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:48,519 Speaker 4: the noodles separate for his girlfriend, and then one time 1834 01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:49,640 Speaker 4: he did it and it turned out he was a 1835 01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:50,800 Speaker 4: horrible person cheated on her. 1836 01:34:52,600 --> 01:34:55,479 Speaker 2: That's unrelated to the pasta no, yeah, just. 1837 01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:57,439 Speaker 4: Like he was a bad person because he wouldn't have 1838 01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:00,719 Speaker 4: separated at first, and then also turned out he ch oh. 1839 01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,479 Speaker 3: Yes, you remember that one. I remember that one. I 1840 01:35:03,640 --> 01:35:04,200 Speaker 3: remember that. 1841 01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:06,599 Speaker 1: One, and it was like like it was it started 1842 01:35:06,640 --> 01:35:09,160 Speaker 1: with spaghetti and we're like, oh, like that's a character flaw, 1843 01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,800 Speaker 1: but it's not that bad. But then he was inconsiderate 1844 01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,000 Speaker 1: about everything and concerned to the point where he cheated 1845 01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:14,280 Speaker 1: on her. 1846 01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,200 Speaker 3: So you know, it starts with spaghetti. 1847 01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:23,160 Speaker 2: Correlation, not causation or direct connection. 1848 01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:28,639 Speaker 3: So, uh, my roommate Elena had seen me make spaghetti before, 1849 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:32,880 Speaker 3: but this time she said, I make it the white 1850 01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:36,000 Speaker 3: people way. I was going to call this. I was 1851 01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,920 Speaker 3: going to call this. Why didn't I call it Riley? 1852 01:35:40,040 --> 01:35:45,400 Speaker 3: I feel it's important to note that she is also white. Also. 1853 01:35:45,520 --> 01:35:49,479 Speaker 1: Aren't Italians the makers of spaghetti white? 1854 01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:51,800 Speaker 3: What even that debate? 1855 01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, debate, it's a big debate. 1856 01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:54,920 Speaker 3: No, it's not. 1857 01:35:56,040 --> 01:36:00,000 Speaker 1: You're saying the inventors of spaghetti, not me, which people 1858 01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:03,200 Speaker 1: the people? People are debating where spaghetti comes from. People 1859 01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:07,320 Speaker 1: are debating it's literally spaghetti, spaghette, spaghette. 1860 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:11,240 Speaker 3: Where's my spaghette? That's one of my favorite beames me too. 1861 01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,960 Speaker 3: I feel it's important to note that she is also white. 1862 01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:16,320 Speaker 3: She said that I should mix the sauce in, and 1863 01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:18,240 Speaker 3: I told her that isn't how I make it. She 1864 01:36:18,439 --> 01:36:20,320 Speaker 3: told me that she liked it better when it was 1865 01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:23,559 Speaker 3: pre mixed. And here's where I maybe went too far. 1866 01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:26,519 Speaker 3: I told her I don't care how she likes it, 1867 01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:29,720 Speaker 3: because I wasn't cooking it for her. I told her 1868 01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,720 Speaker 3: that when I cook, mine and my girlfriend's preferences are 1869 01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:35,320 Speaker 3: the only things I consider, because the food is being 1870 01:36:35,360 --> 01:36:37,760 Speaker 3: made for us and not her. If she doesn't like it, 1871 01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:40,920 Speaker 3: she has her own food to make and there is 1872 01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:47,879 Speaker 3: nothing stopping her from eat. Get wrecked, go off, get wrecked. 1873 01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:52,760 Speaker 3: Eat those words. Yeah, okay, it's a delicious meal. She 1874 01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,800 Speaker 3: got all huffy and stormed off, and later on my 1875 01:36:55,960 --> 01:36:59,080 Speaker 3: girlfriend Edith said, my tone came off a bit angry. 1876 01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:00,639 Speaker 3: Was it angry? 1877 01:37:00,960 --> 01:37:03,680 Speaker 2: I was just stating a fact, But maybe there is 1878 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:05,360 Speaker 2: a way to put it out more gently. 1879 01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:08,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm told that I can sometimes come 1880 01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:10,400 Speaker 3: off as an a hole without meaning to that I 1881 01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:13,200 Speaker 3: have one of those resting faces that makes me look 1882 01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:16,080 Speaker 3: angry all the time, even when I'm not so. Am 1883 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:19,200 Speaker 3: I the a whole quick edit. Made a post onto 1884 01:37:19,240 --> 01:37:22,280 Speaker 3: my actual profile to clarify some stuff. Edit to Everything's resolved, 1885 01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:25,400 Speaker 3: we good, but there is an update which leads me 1886 01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:29,720 Speaker 3: to believe that everything is not good, that we not good. 1887 01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:32,920 Speaker 1: Also, Carol Castle says, too bad, make it yourself then 1888 01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:37,160 Speaker 1: I agree, make yourself truly. 1889 01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:41,160 Speaker 3: So let's let's before we dive into this next update. Uh, 1890 01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:45,560 Speaker 3: Stephan sam s Squared is op the A hole? What 1891 01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:45,960 Speaker 3: say you? 1892 01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:46,599 Speaker 1: Hell? 1893 01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:49,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, if you don't like their spaghetti, don't 1894 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:50,080 Speaker 7: eat it. 1895 01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:51,799 Speaker 2: End a story. 1896 01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:55,840 Speaker 1: I feel like this is a clear cut case. Also 1897 01:37:57,880 --> 01:38:01,960 Speaker 1: unrelated to the spaghetti situation. Yes, is a thirty one 1898 01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:05,040 Speaker 1: year old living with a twenty and twenty one year 1899 01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:06,320 Speaker 1: old weird. 1900 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:07,720 Speaker 6: We know. 1901 01:38:09,439 --> 01:38:15,880 Speaker 3: One uh group of three people that create Yeah, well 1902 01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,080 Speaker 3: that feels different. It is kind of different. 1903 01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,400 Speaker 7: I think the age okay, we're I'm not going to 1904 01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:25,799 Speaker 7: disclose our ages never mind, but they know I was twenty. 1905 01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:28,559 Speaker 7: I remember I made a friend when I was studying 1906 01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,880 Speaker 7: abroad and they were thirty one, and I literally could 1907 01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:33,680 Speaker 7: not tell because like we just like we're talking like 1908 01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:36,560 Speaker 7: normal and like we were traveling together and it like 1909 01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:42,040 Speaker 7: didn't feel weird at all. So maybe contextual, Yeah, I 1910 01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:43,800 Speaker 7: had friends, Yeah, twenty five to thirty. 1911 01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:46,400 Speaker 4: That's like you were so and I are okay living 1912 01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:50,320 Speaker 4: with you guys, it's okay. Yet we do a pretty good. 1913 01:38:53,439 --> 01:38:57,479 Speaker 1: All right, I have age's old, but you know, obviously 1914 01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:01,200 Speaker 1: there's a generational difference. That's caving us spaghetti rift and 1915 01:39:01,439 --> 01:39:02,920 Speaker 1: so maybe it's not working out. 1916 01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:06,200 Speaker 4: Dude, did you know that people put sugar in their spaghetti? 1917 01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:07,320 Speaker 3: They do? 1918 01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:07,880 Speaker 2: Elf? 1919 01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:11,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Elf, well like other people, like real people, 1920 01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:12,759 Speaker 1: real people. 1921 01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:13,240 Speaker 3: Wow. 1922 01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:20,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, he would be real to me if Will Ferrell 1923 01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,720 Speaker 4: decided to do ELF two. But he said he looked 1924 01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:25,439 Speaker 4: ridiculous of the movie, so he wasn't going to. So 1925 01:39:25,520 --> 01:39:26,160 Speaker 4: that breaks my heart. 1926 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:27,400 Speaker 1: He looked ridiculously funny. 1927 01:39:27,439 --> 01:39:30,799 Speaker 2: That's ridiculous exactly called comedy. 1928 01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:33,720 Speaker 3: You know what's you know, what's realer than that? What? 1929 01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,479 Speaker 3: Let's go? So hey, I posted on am I the 1930 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:40,479 Speaker 3: a hole and then ft off for a bit and 1931 01:39:40,600 --> 01:39:44,040 Speaker 3: the post sort of blew up. Huh, So I wanted 1932 01:39:44,080 --> 01:39:46,559 Speaker 3: to pop in and show you just kidding and clear 1933 01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:48,679 Speaker 3: up a few things. The sub breddit has a character limit. 1934 01:39:49,160 --> 01:39:51,560 Speaker 3: Uh that had that had me really pressed trying to 1935 01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:53,320 Speaker 3: fit in what I thought was the most relevant info. 1936 01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:56,080 Speaker 3: So I'm sorry. Uh, then everything was super clear, That's 1937 01:39:56,160 --> 01:39:59,439 Speaker 3: my bad. One common misconception was that I was only 1938 01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:03,439 Speaker 3: using house food for said spaghetti. So let me clarify something. 1939 01:40:03,479 --> 01:40:07,240 Speaker 3: We're about to get some some new evidence there is 1940 01:40:07,280 --> 01:40:11,080 Speaker 3: a pathetic nerve war going on where Sam and Riley 1941 01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:12,960 Speaker 3: are trying to shoot each other and it is literally 1942 01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:14,679 Speaker 3: completely hitting all of the things in between. 1943 01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:16,200 Speaker 4: You hit the mirror just right, it will hit me. 1944 01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:16,960 Speaker 4: I did it before. 1945 01:40:17,520 --> 01:40:22,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is your one shot, one opportunity, and you 1946 01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:26,800 Speaker 3: missed it. Miss this opportunity of a lifetime I got. 1947 01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:29,799 Speaker 3: I got Sophia on that yesterday and she was clueless 1948 01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:30,719 Speaker 3: and it was beautiful. 1949 01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:32,519 Speaker 1: She doesn't listen to any eminem I know. I don't 1950 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:34,760 Speaker 1: think she listened. She she does not listen to any 1951 01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:35,400 Speaker 1: hip hop. 1952 01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:39,160 Speaker 3: She thought that Metro Boomin producer Tag was shouting out 1953 01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:42,200 Speaker 3: the Metro station of my favorite thing. 1954 01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:45,160 Speaker 1: Ever and her the closest thing that she listens to 1955 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:47,000 Speaker 1: that is hip hop is Hamilton. 1956 01:40:47,760 --> 01:40:49,880 Speaker 3: I knew it. I knew it. So but back to 1957 01:40:49,960 --> 01:40:53,719 Speaker 3: these noodles. The noodles were house food, but the sauce 1958 01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:56,400 Speaker 3: was a specific, albeit generic brand that I prefer to buy, 1959 01:40:56,720 --> 01:40:59,880 Speaker 3: so it was my food. Our house food mainly consists 1960 01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:03,439 Speaker 3: of staples like bread, pasta, eggs, milk, et cetera, things 1961 01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:07,360 Speaker 3: which are easily customizable to suit each person's tastes. The 1962 01:41:07,439 --> 01:41:11,240 Speaker 3: pork chops I mentioned were also my food. Another thing 1963 01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:13,160 Speaker 3: was that people seem to be assuming that I was 1964 01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,439 Speaker 3: cooking her portion of the pasta, considering that she would 1965 01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:19,439 Speaker 3: technically have paid one third of it. I could see 1966 01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,960 Speaker 3: where this was sort of coming from. But this was 1967 01:41:22,040 --> 01:41:23,760 Speaker 3: where we brought back up when she first moved in. 1968 01:41:24,040 --> 01:41:27,040 Speaker 3: We agreed that figuring out that. We agreed that figuring 1969 01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:28,800 Speaker 3: out thirds like that when it comes to this just 1970 01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:31,880 Speaker 3: complicates things further. We operate under a if you cook it, 1971 01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:33,040 Speaker 3: it's yours mentality. 1972 01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:36,200 Speaker 1: I just want to take a moment to appreciate that 1973 01:41:36,600 --> 01:41:40,040 Speaker 1: the last story was literally life and death. Yes, and 1974 01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:47,800 Speaker 1: this whole story is about spaghetti. One would say it 1975 01:41:47,920 --> 01:41:50,120 Speaker 1: is the sauce of life. It is the sauce of 1976 01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:52,760 Speaker 1: leg you know, the most quintessential dish. 1977 01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:54,840 Speaker 4: I have a different sauce of life in my head. 1978 01:41:55,160 --> 01:42:01,240 Speaker 3: You know what screw you get out? Okay, so the 1979 01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:01,960 Speaker 3: pasta I. 1980 01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,840 Speaker 2: Made picture be confused? 1981 01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:08,240 Speaker 3: Confused? Steph meme? 1982 01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:10,559 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, memes, Steph. 1983 01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:11,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. 1984 01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:13,559 Speaker 4: Nice, nice memes. 1985 01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:17,280 Speaker 1: And I'm particularly talking to you, Sydney without kids. We 1986 01:42:17,360 --> 01:42:19,960 Speaker 1: aren't direct we were directly talking to you. Be nice 1987 01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:20,639 Speaker 1: in your memes. 1988 01:42:20,840 --> 01:42:23,400 Speaker 2: Kidney without kidneys. I love kidneys. 1989 01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:25,040 Speaker 3: She loves kidneys. 1990 01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:29,599 Speaker 2: Come on, yeah, both of them, Yes barely. I didn't 1991 01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:30,240 Speaker 2: have surgery. 1992 01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:32,519 Speaker 4: Do you sell them on the black market? 1993 01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:33,880 Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. 1994 01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:40,360 Speaker 3: How do you think she paid that? So the pasta, 1995 01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:44,000 Speaker 3: the pasta that I made was not half hers and 1996 01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:48,960 Speaker 3: half mine. It was just fine. Let the courts know. Okay, 1997 01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:52,439 Speaker 3: this system has worked for us for over a year. 1998 01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:55,519 Speaker 3: It is. It has thus been dubbed the spaghetti system, 1999 01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:58,360 Speaker 3: and it has ruled our nation for thousands of years. 2000 01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:00,720 Speaker 2: Was like spaghetti gate. 2001 01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:03,599 Speaker 3: Yes, this is spaghetti gate, and I sort of doubt 2002 01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:05,639 Speaker 3: that this is the root of our problem. The Senate 2003 01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:09,439 Speaker 3: has not voted against the spaghetti system in a millennia. Okay. Also, 2004 01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:13,160 Speaker 3: with the first spaghetti meal mentioned, I made enough four 2005 01:43:13,280 --> 01:43:16,000 Speaker 3: two people, not one, but two, me and my girlfriend, 2006 01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:18,400 Speaker 3: and that is it. I did not make these. I 2007 01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:21,760 Speaker 3: did not make three portions. Now the second time, after 2008 01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:24,360 Speaker 3: I figured out that she wanted some, I did indeed 2009 01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:28,160 Speaker 3: make three count of three portions, since she would be 2010 01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,720 Speaker 3: eating with us. I don't know why people assumed I 2011 01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:33,160 Speaker 3: was making more than I needed. But then again, it's 2012 01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,400 Speaker 3: the Internet, and I bet some people really just like 2013 01:43:35,520 --> 01:43:39,120 Speaker 3: are really just like that. Oh, people caring this much 2014 01:43:39,160 --> 01:43:40,200 Speaker 3: about spaghetti gate. 2015 01:43:40,320 --> 01:43:41,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, how is this so long? 2016 01:43:42,240 --> 01:43:45,639 Speaker 1: This is probably I feel the same way as Steph. 2017 01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:48,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, are we really talking about sphetti? 2018 01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:51,519 Speaker 2: How is it still going? Yes, just eat your own 2019 01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:52,320 Speaker 2: dank spaghetti. 2020 01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:53,520 Speaker 4: Don't make spaghetti. 2021 01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I honestly banned spaghetti in this album. 2022 01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,240 Speaker 2: Had some seasoning so your roommate doesn't get messed. 2023 01:43:58,280 --> 01:44:02,120 Speaker 3: The spaghetti Senate would literally crumbled, crumble, the entire foundation 2024 01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:08,120 Speaker 3: fabric of spaghetti society would would uh noodle would noodle away. 2025 01:44:08,800 --> 01:44:12,160 Speaker 3: All that said, the answer I saw most often was 2026 01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:15,920 Speaker 3: that discussion about the food budget. The Senate needs to 2027 01:44:16,040 --> 01:44:19,160 Speaker 3: vote on the food budget. Look, it needed to be had, 2028 01:44:19,320 --> 01:44:22,160 Speaker 3: and these things needed to be properly split between the 2029 01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:26,320 Speaker 3: three of us. Some would say two thirds majority needed 2030 01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:30,840 Speaker 3: to suffice the vote and properly spit between the three 2031 01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:32,920 Speaker 3: of us. And while I am on the fence, I 2032 01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,400 Speaker 3: do think it's worth bringing up with Edith and Elena. 2033 01:44:35,640 --> 01:44:38,040 Speaker 3: So that's probably what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna give 2034 01:44:38,120 --> 01:44:41,760 Speaker 3: Elena a bit more time to calm down, since she 2035 01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:46,280 Speaker 3: still seemed cold after she left work earlier. This is 2036 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:48,280 Speaker 3: the most important issue of our times. 2037 01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:53,400 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know why, uh Klalajaras and Trump aren't 2038 01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:55,960 Speaker 1: talking about this right now. You know, spaghetti gate is 2039 01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,320 Speaker 1: the thing that should be debated in America. 2040 01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,360 Speaker 3: I think this is going this, this story about spaghetti 2041 01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,919 Speaker 3: will determine whether our society continues or immediately defines a generation. 2042 01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:08,800 Speaker 3: It defines the human race as we know. 2043 01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:11,040 Speaker 2: I think they should divorce their grocery. 2044 01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:18,760 Speaker 1: I think I think so divorce, divorce worse, dude, you 2045 01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:21,600 Speaker 1: started a divorce chand unknowingly is. 2046 01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:22,000 Speaker 2: That a thing? 2047 01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:26,160 Speaker 1: That's a thing? Guys, Steph just came in, crushed it, 2048 01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:31,559 Speaker 1: just crushed it immediately, the doom firing myself myself. 2049 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:32,400 Speaker 3: Here I go. 2050 01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,120 Speaker 2: Then you just stop noodling around. You know what, Adam, 2051 01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:38,360 Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, But guys. 2052 01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:46,800 Speaker 3: Up, because I don't want the hottest saucage stuff know 2053 01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:49,360 Speaker 3: that you've ever seen in your entire life, and we 2054 01:45:49,439 --> 01:45:52,880 Speaker 3: are going to through it. We're gonna barrel things. So 2055 01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:55,479 Speaker 3: all right, I figured I should give you guys one 2056 01:45:55,560 --> 01:46:00,880 Speaker 3: last update before I vanished myself. Lena Edith All sat 2057 01:46:01,000 --> 01:46:04,280 Speaker 3: down at the spaghetti Court last night after Lena got 2058 01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:07,680 Speaker 3: off work. Okay, I brought up what happened the other 2059 01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:11,800 Speaker 3: night with the spaghetti and I explained how I saw things. Look. 2060 01:46:11,920 --> 01:46:14,479 Speaker 3: To sum it up what I said, I told her 2061 01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:17,400 Speaker 3: that while I appreciated her sometimes in the kitchen, uh, 2062 01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:19,719 Speaker 3: since she has more experience than me, I didn't understand 2063 01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:21,920 Speaker 3: her insistent insisting on something. 2064 01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:32,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're gonna focus on the spaghetti, insisting on something 2065 01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:35,320 Speaker 5: as small as stirring the sauce it and whatnot? 2066 01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:39,320 Speaker 3: Stirring the sauce of this relationship? Am I right when 2067 01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,680 Speaker 3: she could simply stir the sauce in herself on her 2068 01:46:41,720 --> 01:46:44,200 Speaker 3: own plate. I was mindful of my tone and my 2069 01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:47,559 Speaker 3: wording the time around, and I think that helped. After 2070 01:46:47,720 --> 01:46:50,439 Speaker 3: I had said my piece to the spaghetti council, uh, 2071 01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:55,520 Speaker 3: Elena led out a long sigh and apologized. 2072 01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:58,040 Speaker 1: Finally, I don't care. 2073 01:46:58,160 --> 01:46:58,840 Speaker 3: I don't care. 2074 01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:01,800 Speaker 2: Should I send her to a second y? Y? 2075 01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:02,679 Speaker 5: Yes? 2076 01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:06,679 Speaker 1: If you are obsessing this much about spaghetti, you need help. 2077 01:47:07,560 --> 01:47:11,680 Speaker 1: You need help unity before and on. 2078 01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:18,599 Speaker 3: Our noodle since uninety us once before all. Oh my god. 2079 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,120 Speaker 3: She explained that she had come home for a long 2080 01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:25,439 Speaker 3: day of work before she joined the Spaghetti Citadel, and 2081 01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,120 Speaker 3: when she came home she was pretty moody and ended 2082 01:47:28,240 --> 01:47:32,800 Speaker 3: up taking that out on me. Projection projecting through the spaghetti. 2083 01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:36,840 Speaker 3: She said that growing up, her family had always mixed 2084 01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:42,479 Speaker 3: in the sauce trauma. 2085 01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,640 Speaker 1: This goes back to her childhood, okay, and she. 2086 01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:49,800 Speaker 3: Had never actually eaten it any other way, So when 2087 01:47:49,880 --> 01:47:52,000 Speaker 3: she saw something she perceived as new in her brain, 2088 01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:53,560 Speaker 3: she kind of flipped out about it. 2089 01:47:53,720 --> 01:47:56,880 Speaker 1: Dude, she does need therapy, and she's flipping out about 2090 01:47:56,960 --> 01:48:00,880 Speaker 1: spaghetti sauce. She has some unresolved thoughts trophy family trauma. Okay, 2091 01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:05,280 Speaker 1: deep spaghetti therapy, dude, it's the purest form. 2092 01:48:05,680 --> 01:48:07,960 Speaker 3: I told her, I understood, and I apologized for maybe 2093 01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:10,160 Speaker 3: coming off more annoyed than I actually felt. I also 2094 01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:17,240 Speaker 3: took this opportunity to explain to Elena why I got 2095 01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:19,080 Speaker 3: freaking kidding me. 2096 01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:20,639 Speaker 2: It's so important. 2097 01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:24,120 Speaker 1: Listen, story, listen, listen. 2098 01:48:24,439 --> 01:48:30,400 Speaker 3: My older my older sibling has autism and is incredibly okay. 2099 01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:33,920 Speaker 3: And look, when we were kids, they would refuse anything 2100 01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:37,639 Speaker 3: that wasn't plain buttered noodles. So the separation of noodles 2101 01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:41,080 Speaker 3: and sauce was our family's a way of accommodating. Dare 2102 01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:44,040 Speaker 3: I say, uniting everyone? And I guess that sort of 2103 01:48:44,040 --> 01:48:46,400 Speaker 3: stuck with me since it's how I grew up. She 2104 01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,080 Speaker 3: said that it made sense, and I told her it 2105 01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:51,880 Speaker 3: really mattered that I could stir for her portion of 2106 01:48:52,120 --> 01:48:55,800 Speaker 3: plausa when she's having a rough day. She smiled and 2107 01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:59,479 Speaker 3: said it's not necessary, but I heard this tone in 2108 01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:02,280 Speaker 3: her voice again, so I think I'm gonna do it anyways, 2109 01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:03,320 Speaker 3: and see how. 2110 01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:06,360 Speaker 1: She responds, lou Key, Now I'm now I'm team spaghetti. 2111 01:49:06,439 --> 01:49:07,360 Speaker 1: Now I'm like the story. 2112 01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:08,200 Speaker 3: Guys. 2113 01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:09,799 Speaker 1: It wasn't about spaghetti. 2114 01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:11,559 Speaker 3: It was about the whole time. 2115 01:49:11,680 --> 01:49:16,760 Speaker 7: Now, the family trauma, family traumaua, remembering the bowl of 2116 01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,200 Speaker 7: spaghetti you had when you were three. 2117 01:49:18,479 --> 01:49:19,519 Speaker 3: I see things like that. 2118 01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:23,280 Speaker 1: That scene in Rattiituey where he eats eats the Ratti 2119 01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:26,559 Speaker 1: tuey and he goes exactly and then he's back as 2120 01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:28,200 Speaker 1: a kid falling on his bike. 2121 01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:32,679 Speaker 3: Now, since so many people seemed confused about the house 2122 01:49:32,760 --> 01:49:36,120 Speaker 3: food system the Senate of Spaghetti, I decided to bring 2123 01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,760 Speaker 3: this up and ask if it was in anyway real. 2124 01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:44,120 Speaker 3: She said no, that she didn't really mind the system 2125 01:49:44,200 --> 01:49:47,759 Speaker 3: we have. So the spaghetti citadel lives another day. Wow, 2126 01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,400 Speaker 3: she said, it probably would have happened no matter what 2127 01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:55,920 Speaker 3: I had made. The uprising of spaghetti was inevitable since 2128 01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:59,160 Speaker 3: in her mind right then, anything that wasn't made her 2129 01:49:59,240 --> 01:50:02,720 Speaker 3: way was wrong now. Edith also agreed that as of 2130 01:50:02,840 --> 01:50:05,479 Speaker 3: right now, our food, our house food system is working, 2131 01:50:05,840 --> 01:50:08,559 Speaker 3: and neither of them saw a reason to change. Therefore 2132 01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:12,000 Speaker 3: the unanimous vote not even two thirds the Spaghetti Senate 2133 01:50:12,120 --> 01:50:14,800 Speaker 3: has spoken. After that, we kind of just hung out 2134 01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:17,000 Speaker 3: in the living room for a while, talking about weirdly 2135 01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:19,960 Speaker 3: specific food preferences we have in the vein in the 2136 01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:24,320 Speaker 3: same venus spaghetti. It turns out we're all pretty picky 2137 01:50:24,360 --> 01:50:27,720 Speaker 3: about random food items and it only makes sense to us, 2138 01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:30,040 Speaker 3: like I will only eat hot dogs if they're not 2139 01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:36,080 Speaker 3: actually hot dogs but Polish sausages. And you're joking and 2140 01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:39,559 Speaker 3: it has to have mustard. Okay, I'm not sure if 2141 01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:42,719 Speaker 3: that's something else, and honestly don't care. Not not the point. 2142 01:50:42,960 --> 01:50:46,120 Speaker 3: The point is our strange is specific food food prefaces 2143 01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:50,400 Speaker 3: can be accommodated more often than not, except Edith putting 2144 01:50:50,439 --> 01:50:53,479 Speaker 3: ranch dressing on her spaghetti. I love her, but her 2145 01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:57,320 Speaker 3: crimes can never be forgiven. Oh, I'm a spaghetti sentate. 2146 01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:01,599 Speaker 7: And they all lived happily ever after in spaghetti Paradise. 2147 01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:05,960 Speaker 3: We just went through a Roman Empire level, you know, 2148 01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:09,080 Speaker 3: story and rise and fall and rise again. 2149 01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:10,599 Speaker 4: I kind of have some trauma from. 2150 01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:13,680 Speaker 7: You know, so is this a discussion you have to 2151 01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:16,360 Speaker 7: have with every roommate like, Hey, how do you like 2152 01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:17,040 Speaker 7: your study? 2153 01:51:17,320 --> 01:51:17,519 Speaker 3: Yeah? 2154 01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:20,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, and how does it relate to autism in your family? 2155 01:51:20,680 --> 01:51:25,639 Speaker 3: Exactly what child trauma is? Are we addressing through the sauce? Yeah, 2156 01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:27,479 Speaker 3: that's the question. Wow. 2157 01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:29,479 Speaker 1: It's kind of like reading tea leaves at the end 2158 01:51:29,560 --> 01:51:32,600 Speaker 1: of like drinking your your tea, Like like it's like, 2159 01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:35,240 Speaker 1: what what does your spaghetti say about you? That's a 2160 01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:39,760 Speaker 1: BuzzFeed quiz right there, or a shopman quiz. 2161 01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:43,120 Speaker 2: Therapy quiz therapy quiz. I mean, it looks like they 2162 01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:44,320 Speaker 2: have a lot to unpack. 2163 01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:47,519 Speaker 3: They have those those like black blob charts, right yeah. 2164 01:51:48,479 --> 01:51:51,040 Speaker 2: That's like yeah, like I've never like seen when. 2165 01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:52,120 Speaker 4: You know what? 2166 01:51:54,160 --> 01:51:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I feel like they use it a lot, 2167 01:51:57,479 --> 01:51:58,240 Speaker 1: see what you're. 2168 01:51:58,080 --> 01:52:00,800 Speaker 7: Speaking about, But I never know in a cute setting, 2169 01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:02,400 Speaker 7: which like I'm in the eer right now, Like we 2170 01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:03,920 Speaker 7: never do that because they just come in. 2171 01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:06,000 Speaker 2: This is an emergency. 2172 01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you don't have time to say yeah. 2173 01:52:08,040 --> 01:52:10,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're really look like, yeah, do you want to 2174 01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:11,280 Speaker 2: kill someone? 2175 01:52:11,439 --> 01:52:13,600 Speaker 3: Heay, how do you prefer your spaghetti. 2176 01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:15,840 Speaker 4: Really dive into this. 2177 01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:20,320 Speaker 3: But guys, that's it. Look thank god the this we 2178 01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:25,320 Speaker 3: lost like thirty people. We went through the Great Spaghetti 2179 01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:29,160 Speaker 3: Wars of Edith and Elena, but the Spaghetti Citadel survived. 2180 01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:32,240 Speaker 2: The Senate voted, and we are here, back to prosperity. 2181 01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,200 Speaker 1: If you were to rate that story one out of three, 2182 01:52:35,479 --> 01:52:38,840 Speaker 1: one you hated it, two of your three you liked it. 2183 01:52:39,880 --> 01:52:41,680 Speaker 1: What did you think? Put your answers in the chat. 2184 01:52:42,320 --> 01:52:44,160 Speaker 1: I want to know what you thought of the spaghetti 2185 01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:44,599 Speaker 1: said at all. 2186 01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:45,040 Speaker 3: That's right. 2187 01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:49,519 Speaker 1: But we do have another story, possibly our last story 2188 01:52:49,600 --> 01:52:52,439 Speaker 1: of the stream. We got thirteen minutes left in the stream. 2189 01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:54,719 Speaker 1: Oh my, so we'll have to make it a little quick. 2190 01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:56,839 Speaker 4: Don't worry, we'll be back tomorrow. 2191 01:52:57,080 --> 01:53:04,360 Speaker 1: Don't exactly, do not do not wet sweaty spaghetti, Mom, Spaghetti, Mom, spaghetti. 2192 01:53:04,720 --> 01:53:05,960 Speaker 1: You look nervous, but don't be. 2193 01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:10,880 Speaker 3: All right? Are you ready get into this next story? 2194 01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:15,320 Speaker 1: My best friend and my husband suddenly stopped talking to 2195 01:53:15,439 --> 01:53:20,080 Speaker 1: each other. I think they cheated. Now we got steaks, 2196 01:53:20,439 --> 01:53:24,280 Speaker 1: table steaks right now, So this is all I answered 2197 01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:26,240 Speaker 1: the question isn't important for your friends to get along 2198 01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:28,160 Speaker 1: with your partner? By the way, we go live every 2199 01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:31,200 Speaker 1: day three PMPSD, so join us there. This first story 2200 01:53:31,280 --> 01:53:35,719 Speaker 1: comes from tea friend husband, and they say something weird 2201 01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:40,439 Speaker 1: is happening between my husband and my best friend Dana, 2202 01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:43,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know if my head is making up 2203 01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:47,680 Speaker 1: stories or their actions are really suspicious. I'm seeing a 2204 01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:49,320 Speaker 1: lot of ones on the spaghetti story. 2205 01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:51,280 Speaker 4: What was it again? 2206 01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:52,559 Speaker 3: One was best, one was. 2207 01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:57,240 Speaker 1: Worst, one was bad, two me. I see a lot 2208 01:53:57,280 --> 01:54:01,000 Speaker 1: of ones and twos. Sophia is running out of stories 2209 01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:03,080 Speaker 1: with the amount of stories that we are reading. By 2210 01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:06,639 Speaker 1: the way, So something weird is happening between my husband 2211 01:54:06,680 --> 01:54:08,400 Speaker 1: and my best friend Dana, and I don't know if 2212 01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:10,320 Speaker 1: my head is just making up stories or their actions 2213 01:54:10,360 --> 01:54:13,240 Speaker 1: are really suspicious. My husband Phil and I have been 2214 01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:15,559 Speaker 1: married for four years and are both in our thirties. 2215 01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:18,320 Speaker 1: We are very happy together. He loves me a lot, 2216 01:54:18,439 --> 01:54:21,559 Speaker 1: but sometimes I have caught him lying to protect my feelings, 2217 01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:25,240 Speaker 1: which I do not really like. Dana is my best 2218 01:54:25,280 --> 01:54:27,640 Speaker 1: friend since college and we were roommates. Just to give 2219 01:54:27,720 --> 01:54:29,880 Speaker 1: some background about Dana, she was in a long term 2220 01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:32,200 Speaker 1: relationship with her boyfriend for three years, but they broke 2221 01:54:32,320 --> 01:54:37,080 Speaker 1: up last year. He was also very insecure about Dana 2222 01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:41,960 Speaker 1: and was very controlling about Dana and who she oops 2223 01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:45,240 Speaker 1: and about who she hangs out with. Dana's boyfriend was 2224 01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:48,520 Speaker 1: really jealous of Phil for some reason, and they would 2225 01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:53,440 Speaker 1: avoid hanging out with us. And again, Phil is Op's husband. 2226 01:54:57,080 --> 01:54:57,160 Speaker 4: So. 2227 01:55:01,880 --> 01:55:07,680 Speaker 1: Nope, he's hus Where was I Dana's boyfriend a fellows Phil. However, 2228 01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:11,840 Speaker 1: since the breakup, Danna's boyfriend was really jealous Phil for 2229 01:55:11,920 --> 01:55:15,000 Speaker 1: some reason and they would avoid hanging out with us. However, 2230 01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:17,600 Speaker 1: since the breakup, Dana and I have gotten closer and 2231 01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:20,280 Speaker 1: spend a lot of time shopping, going out to restaurants, 2232 01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:23,360 Speaker 1: et cetera. And Phil also loves to tag along with 2233 01:55:23,520 --> 01:55:26,880 Speaker 1: us occasionally but not always. Phil and my friend Dana 2234 01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:30,200 Speaker 1: also get along well, and my friend Dana has told 2235 01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:33,560 Speaker 1: me that if I find another Phil my husband, I 2236 01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:36,720 Speaker 1: need to set up a blind date between them asap. 2237 01:55:37,240 --> 01:55:37,480 Speaker 3: Well. 2238 01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:41,640 Speaker 1: One month ago, my husband Phil and my friend Dana 2239 01:55:41,800 --> 01:55:44,240 Speaker 1: and I plan to go to a concert in our town. 2240 01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:47,240 Speaker 1: Bill was really excited as it was one of his 2241 01:55:47,400 --> 01:55:50,360 Speaker 1: favorite bands. I started feeling unwell the morning of the 2242 01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:53,360 Speaker 1: concert and just wanted rest, while my husband Phil was 2243 01:55:53,400 --> 01:55:55,760 Speaker 1: disappointed but told me that we can offer our tickets 2244 01:55:55,800 --> 01:55:58,000 Speaker 1: to our friends and we can see the band another time. 2245 01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:00,360 Speaker 1: I didn't really want to spoil it for him, so 2246 01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:03,520 Speaker 1: I called a few of my friends and my friend Jess, 2247 01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:06,280 Speaker 1: mutual friend with Dana, was happy to go to the 2248 01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:10,960 Speaker 1: concert in my place. My husband Phil still wanted to cancel, 2249 01:56:11,080 --> 01:56:13,760 Speaker 1: but I insisted he went as I would have felt 2250 01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:17,400 Speaker 1: bad if he missed the concert. They all went well 2251 01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:21,080 Speaker 1: together and enjoyed the concert. My husband Phil kept sending 2252 01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:24,080 Speaker 1: me photos all throughout the light all throughout the night, 2253 01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:27,839 Speaker 1: and the concert ended at eleven PM, but I slept 2254 01:56:27,920 --> 01:56:29,280 Speaker 1: before that due to my medication. 2255 01:56:30,000 --> 01:56:30,200 Speaker 3: Well. 2256 01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,520 Speaker 1: When I woke up in the morning, I was alone 2257 01:56:35,080 --> 01:56:40,360 Speaker 1: in the bed. Phil did not come back. I quickly 2258 01:56:40,520 --> 01:56:44,880 Speaker 1: checked my messages and Phil's last message was as eleven PM, 2259 01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:47,840 Speaker 1: saying that they are leaving the concert and he should 2260 01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:53,440 Speaker 1: be home soon after dropping off Dana. So Dana was 2261 01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:58,480 Speaker 1: oh PE's friend. I went to the living room and 2262 01:56:58,720 --> 01:57:01,920 Speaker 1: Phil was sleeping on the sofa in the same clothes 2263 01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:04,040 Speaker 1: he warded the concert. Okay, so maybe he was just 2264 01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:06,600 Speaker 1: like didn't want to wake up Opeep, or maybe he 2265 01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:09,920 Speaker 1: was cheating. I waited for him to get up. I 2266 01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:12,120 Speaker 1: asked him about the night and when he returned home. 2267 01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,120 Speaker 1: He said they came back around two or three am. 2268 01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:17,560 Speaker 1: He said that there were multiple accidents outside of the 2269 01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:20,520 Speaker 1: concert venue and traffic was horrible. He said he dropped 2270 01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:23,200 Speaker 1: Dana at her place and came home directly. I asked 2271 01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:24,920 Speaker 1: him why he was sleeping on the sofa, and he 2272 01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:26,720 Speaker 1: told me he did not want to disturb me and 2273 01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:28,960 Speaker 1: also was too tired to change out of his clothes. 2274 01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:32,640 Speaker 1: Bil had some glitter on his clothes, but that was 2275 01:57:32,720 --> 01:57:35,160 Speaker 1: from dancing in the crowd at the concert, so he 2276 01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:39,800 Speaker 1: just crashed on the sofa and slept immediately. It seemed plausible, 2277 01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:44,240 Speaker 1: and Dana also confirmed the story, which to me, right 2278 01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:46,560 Speaker 1: now I'm seeing a bunch of ICUs in the chat. 2279 01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:50,320 Speaker 1: So if you see something, let us know. But right 2280 01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,880 Speaker 1: now everything checks out. Oh ICEE you means like you 2281 01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:54,839 Speaker 1: see what's coming. 2282 01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:02,040 Speaker 3: Different? I see. 2283 01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:05,960 Speaker 1: But honestly, this relationship could be the ice you honestly 2284 01:58:06,120 --> 01:58:09,000 Speaker 1: live support. But do you think do you think, uh, 2285 01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:12,520 Speaker 1: everything checks out? Because right now to me, on the surface, 2286 01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:14,520 Speaker 1: everything seems to check out. Like he said he was 2287 01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:16,240 Speaker 1: going to go to the concert, he texted it when 2288 01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:17,920 Speaker 1: he when when they leaved. 2289 01:58:18,680 --> 01:58:23,640 Speaker 3: I just saw the comment there we go, we have 2290 01:58:24,040 --> 01:58:28,440 Speaker 3: we have John with the with the flow chart. So basically, 2291 01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:31,480 Speaker 3: let me get this right, Opie. Opie is married to 2292 01:58:31,520 --> 01:58:33,920 Speaker 3: Phil the husband, and then there's a friend Dana, and 2293 01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:36,600 Speaker 3: Opie is like wondering, like, oh, is there. 2294 01:58:36,560 --> 01:58:38,800 Speaker 1: Only another friend Jess but less important than the story. 2295 01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:42,720 Speaker 3: Jess is literally so irrelevant. Yeah, and there op He's 2296 01:58:42,760 --> 01:58:46,200 Speaker 3: wondering if they are maybe having an affair because they 2297 01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:49,560 Speaker 3: both were like out late at the concert together. Yes, 2298 01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:51,760 Speaker 3: get some glitter on his clothes, but he. 2299 01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:54,280 Speaker 1: Was he was on the couch. Everything checks out, though, 2300 01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:57,680 Speaker 1: Like I mean, if I if I was in that 2301 01:58:57,840 --> 01:58:59,880 Speaker 1: relationship and I was Opie, I would be like, oh, 2302 01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:02,640 Speaker 1: like everything checks out? Or do you guys think differently? 2303 01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:05,400 Speaker 1: I think, so, yeah, what do you think stef. 2304 01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:07,040 Speaker 2: Ike? 2305 01:59:08,200 --> 01:59:08,440 Speaker 5: You are? 2306 01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:09,680 Speaker 1: You were in Yike's territory. 2307 01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:13,840 Speaker 2: I'm in like a little suspicious What are you suspicious of? 2308 01:59:15,680 --> 01:59:18,200 Speaker 7: I feel like there seems to be some miscommunication here, 2309 01:59:18,400 --> 01:59:20,200 Speaker 7: and the fact that he has been guarded in the 2310 01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:23,040 Speaker 7: past and like lies to protect her feelings makes me 2311 01:59:23,120 --> 01:59:29,080 Speaker 7: feel like, Okay, well maybe it's not the most like honest, but. 2312 01:59:29,200 --> 01:59:32,080 Speaker 1: Is there any red flags in what he said so far? 2313 01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:32,360 Speaker 3: No? 2314 01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:35,360 Speaker 2: No blatant red flag. 2315 01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:37,440 Speaker 1: I don't see any blatant red flags except for the 2316 01:59:37,520 --> 01:59:38,040 Speaker 1: fact that. 2317 01:59:39,560 --> 01:59:40,040 Speaker 3: He is. 2318 01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:44,880 Speaker 1: Has lied in the past. But what definitely is a 2319 01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:49,080 Speaker 1: green flag is Shira Yuki with the one hundred dollar 2320 01:59:49,520 --> 01:59:53,200 Speaker 1: tip and sixteen cents Sheira has given us even gang, 2321 01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:56,440 Speaker 1: we appreciate you. Share a Yuki shout out to you. 2322 01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:57,960 Speaker 1: I haven't. I feel like I haven't seen you in 2323 01:59:58,040 --> 02:00:01,200 Speaker 1: a stream in a sec now, at least in my streams. 2324 02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:06,640 Speaker 1: I know you've been around, But Shira, our beloved, our beloved, 2325 02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Shira Yuki. Yeah, lfg's in the chat for Shira Yuki, 2326 02:00:13,640 --> 02:00:16,840 Speaker 1: so we're gonna keep going. However, the weird behavior started 2327 02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:20,080 Speaker 1: after this night. Firstly, Phil stopped tagging along with me 2328 02:00:20,400 --> 02:00:22,840 Speaker 1: when I was hanging out with Dana. He would come 2329 02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:25,720 Speaker 1: up with the most unbelievable reasons to avoid going out 2330 02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:28,360 Speaker 1: with me when Dana was there. Phil has also been 2331 02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:30,680 Speaker 1: a bit aloof with me since that night, and I've 2332 02:00:30,720 --> 02:00:32,800 Speaker 1: noticed him spending a lot more time in his home 2333 02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:35,920 Speaker 1: office playing video games at night instead of coming to bed. 2334 02:00:36,640 --> 02:00:39,240 Speaker 1: Two weeks ago, I invited Dana to our house for 2335 02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:41,840 Speaker 1: drinks after we went out shopping, and she also started 2336 02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:44,800 Speaker 1: giving reasons to avoid coming to our place. Dana has 2337 02:00:44,920 --> 02:00:49,160 Speaker 1: not visited our place since that day. The only time 2338 02:00:49,240 --> 02:00:51,680 Speaker 1: Phil and Dana saw each other was during a house 2339 02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:54,440 Speaker 1: party at my friend's place last weekend. I was observing 2340 02:00:54,520 --> 02:00:58,080 Speaker 1: their behavior and they both were avoiding each other. I 2341 02:00:58,160 --> 02:01:00,560 Speaker 1: asked Phil about why he's avoiding Dana, and he said 2342 02:01:00,600 --> 02:01:03,880 Speaker 1: that as just in my imagination. Dana also said the same, 2343 02:01:04,240 --> 02:01:07,120 Speaker 1: but then starts giving me bs reasons for not coming 2344 02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:11,560 Speaker 1: over to our apartment. I feel in my gut the 2345 02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:15,160 Speaker 1: behavior is suspicious, but I'm not sure if it's my insecurity. 2346 02:01:15,440 --> 02:01:18,240 Speaker 1: How do I know what's going on? I have gone 2347 02:01:18,280 --> 02:01:20,960 Speaker 1: through Phil's phone multiple times. The only messages between him 2348 02:01:20,960 --> 02:01:23,520 Speaker 1: and Dana are very sparse, and there are no messages 2349 02:01:23,640 --> 02:01:26,640 Speaker 1: since that night. I feel something happened between them that 2350 02:01:26,800 --> 02:01:30,320 Speaker 1: night and both are just avoiding answering even basic questions 2351 02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:33,840 Speaker 1: about why they are avoiding each other. Am I the 2352 02:01:33,880 --> 02:01:36,600 Speaker 1: a hole for assuming the worst? I really do not 2353 02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:39,440 Speaker 1: want to come off as insecure, but it is killing 2354 02:01:39,520 --> 02:01:43,240 Speaker 1: me from the inside. And we have a thick juicy update. 2355 02:01:44,040 --> 02:01:48,200 Speaker 1: Thick juicy update coming in. But what are conspiracy theories? 2356 02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:53,640 Speaker 7: They made out at the concert? Whoa with Glitter? 2357 02:01:54,920 --> 02:01:56,440 Speaker 3: Pretty good? Theory. Pretty good theory. 2358 02:01:56,520 --> 02:01:59,480 Speaker 2: Now they're not talking, Joe, what do you think? 2359 02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:03,440 Speaker 3: I think that's pretty accurate. Oh, but to throw something else? 2360 02:02:04,120 --> 02:02:10,080 Speaker 1: Oh, getting us another thirty minutes, Shira Yuki, we appreciate 2361 02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:13,880 Speaker 1: you twenty gifted memberships, putting us over the edge, giving 2362 02:02:13,960 --> 02:02:18,520 Speaker 1: us seventeen seventy six. Shout out to our founding fathers 2363 02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:22,800 Speaker 1: and shout out to Shira Yuki and Melis six eight fifteen. 2364 02:02:22,920 --> 02:02:26,840 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for all you do. Thanks for the 2365 02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:32,680 Speaker 1: ten bucks. What is yeahs an idiot? 2366 02:02:33,160 --> 02:02:34,560 Speaker 3: You made plans? Stupid? 2367 02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:36,960 Speaker 1: I can't believe you made plans. Come on, John, what 2368 02:02:37,120 --> 02:02:37,480 Speaker 1: do you know? 2369 02:02:37,720 --> 02:02:37,760 Speaker 4: This? 2370 02:02:38,120 --> 02:02:39,160 Speaker 3: No better? I made plans? 2371 02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:39,960 Speaker 4: What did you do? 2372 02:02:40,120 --> 02:02:40,760 Speaker 2: What did you plan? 2373 02:02:41,040 --> 02:02:44,000 Speaker 1: I literally today is the only day I don't have plans. 2374 02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:45,440 Speaker 3: I made plans because I'm stupid. 2375 02:02:45,600 --> 02:02:47,920 Speaker 1: You're a silly goose, super silly. We all know not 2376 02:02:48,040 --> 02:02:50,360 Speaker 1: to make plans on Tuesday, because they monopolize our time. 2377 02:02:50,600 --> 02:02:51,680 Speaker 2: Is Tuesday, the day. 2378 02:02:52,080 --> 02:02:54,400 Speaker 3: Tuesday is the day, the day, the day, the day 2379 02:02:54,600 --> 02:02:58,920 Speaker 3: they rally their legions on our stream. 2380 02:02:59,000 --> 02:03:00,920 Speaker 2: They bring the y Yes. 2381 02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:04,720 Speaker 1: Also, to be clear, you do not have to stay 2382 02:03:05,120 --> 02:03:06,960 Speaker 1: if you don't want to. If you have to go, 2383 02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:11,400 Speaker 1: I'm fine, now okay, cool, Yeah, at any at any 2384 02:03:11,480 --> 02:03:12,360 Speaker 1: point when I. 2385 02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:14,640 Speaker 2: Just had to take on to his flight to Africa. 2386 02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:18,320 Speaker 2: Oh right, eight pm, but what time is it. 2387 02:03:19,560 --> 02:03:24,600 Speaker 3: Don't tell him that I'm just kidding. Actually probably in. 2388 02:03:24,640 --> 02:03:25,720 Speaker 1: A bit gradu. 2389 02:03:28,040 --> 02:03:30,200 Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think we can finish the story. 2390 02:03:31,240 --> 02:03:34,640 Speaker 3: Cool sounds good, but yeah, to put it in another theory, 2391 02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:38,160 Speaker 3: I think that they both went to a strip club together, 2392 02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:42,800 Speaker 3: accidentally got the stripper to grind so hard that the 2393 02:03:42,880 --> 02:03:45,560 Speaker 3: stripper had a heart attack, had to bury the body, 2394 02:03:46,000 --> 02:03:48,400 Speaker 3: and now they are both accomplices and murder and that's 2395 02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:48,920 Speaker 3: why they're. 2396 02:03:48,800 --> 02:03:52,240 Speaker 1: Being And they kissed because it was just so hectic in. 2397 02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:54,040 Speaker 3: The in the moments of passion, they're like, wow, you 2398 02:03:54,280 --> 02:03:56,720 Speaker 3: you had me do so much together. They had a kiss, 2399 02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:59,880 Speaker 3: and now now we're here it's untold. 2400 02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:04,800 Speaker 1: I think my most realistic conspiracy theory, right next to John's, 2401 02:04:05,240 --> 02:04:09,960 Speaker 1: is that that I think that she made a move 2402 02:04:10,040 --> 02:04:14,120 Speaker 1: on him and now he feels weird about the relationship 2403 02:04:14,200 --> 02:04:15,720 Speaker 1: as a whole or vice versa. 2404 02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:18,000 Speaker 3: But then why wouldn't he say something. Wouldn't he be like, hey, 2405 02:04:18,520 --> 02:04:19,600 Speaker 3: your friend made a move on me. 2406 02:04:19,960 --> 02:04:21,800 Speaker 2: No, because he doesn't want to hurt her feelings. 2407 02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:27,520 Speaker 3: Yes, Oh, he loves and he lies to protect her feelings. Oh, 2408 02:04:27,600 --> 02:04:29,360 Speaker 3: I don't want to take away your best friend from you. 2409 02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:30,400 Speaker 3: I don't want to be the one that. 2410 02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:33,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I let Sam take my boyfriend all the time. 2411 02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:34,120 Speaker 3: It's true. 2412 02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:35,160 Speaker 2: You learn to deal with it. 2413 02:04:36,400 --> 02:04:39,360 Speaker 3: I give him little kisses on the cheek. Thirty man stealer. 2414 02:04:41,360 --> 02:04:44,880 Speaker 1: Well update, I was briefly able to get access to 2415 02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:47,760 Speaker 1: Phil's phone last night. I did not have time to 2416 02:04:47,880 --> 02:04:51,480 Speaker 1: retrieve any deleted messages. However, thanks to someone's idea, I 2417 02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:54,280 Speaker 1: opened his camera gallery and went through the photos he 2418 02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:57,960 Speaker 1: took that night. One important thing that jumped out was 2419 02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:01,680 Speaker 1: Dana's outfit. Dana was wearing a white T shirt and 2420 02:05:01,840 --> 02:05:04,839 Speaker 1: denim to the concert, and it was an outdoor concert. 2421 02:05:05,360 --> 02:05:08,360 Speaker 1: She took off her shirt and was only wearing a 2422 02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:12,320 Speaker 1: blue bikini top. She had some glittering fake tattoos on 2423 02:05:12,480 --> 02:05:15,080 Speaker 1: her shoulder and her back. By the end of the night, 2424 02:05:15,360 --> 02:05:17,960 Speaker 1: she was again wearing a shirt, so for the glitter 2425 02:05:18,120 --> 02:05:21,520 Speaker 1: to be on Phil's car seat and his clothes, Dana 2426 02:05:22,280 --> 02:05:25,520 Speaker 1: had to have taken her shirt off in the car. 2427 02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:31,720 Speaker 3: Yo, this is some FBI level. This is some Surewalk stuff. Wow. 2428 02:05:32,600 --> 02:05:36,040 Speaker 1: I was so angry and could not keep my cool anymore. 2429 02:05:37,080 --> 02:05:42,880 Speaker 1: I went and confronted Phil. He immediately broke down and 2430 02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:45,880 Speaker 1: apologized to me. He said that it was his fault 2431 02:05:46,080 --> 02:05:49,560 Speaker 1: that he took it too far and was feeling very 2432 02:05:49,680 --> 02:05:52,240 Speaker 1: guilty all month. He said that he did not want 2433 02:05:52,280 --> 02:05:54,800 Speaker 1: to tell me because I would have been very upset 2434 02:05:55,200 --> 02:05:59,920 Speaker 1: and he just wanted to forget it coward. I told 2435 02:06:00,160 --> 02:06:04,280 Speaker 1: him to tell me what happened in detail, and he did. 2436 02:06:05,840 --> 02:06:10,880 Speaker 3: On the detail, Yes, the detail. We must be tortured. 2437 02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:11,720 Speaker 5: No. 2438 02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:14,960 Speaker 1: He told me that Dana and Jess both got drunk 2439 02:06:15,040 --> 02:06:19,240 Speaker 1: during the concert. Oh Bill had told Bill had to 2440 02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:23,520 Speaker 1: hold Dana while talking. Bill had to hold Dana while 2441 02:06:23,600 --> 02:06:26,680 Speaker 1: taking her to the car. Dana slept in the car 2442 02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:29,160 Speaker 1: for an hour while Phil was driving. 2443 02:06:29,680 --> 02:06:30,240 Speaker 3: She got up. 2444 02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:34,200 Speaker 1: She started playing music and singing loudly. At one point 2445 02:06:34,360 --> 02:06:36,960 Speaker 1: she told Phil that it is hot in the car, 2446 02:06:37,360 --> 02:06:39,840 Speaker 1: and before he could lower the AC temperature, she took 2447 02:06:39,880 --> 02:06:43,200 Speaker 1: off her shirt. Bill said he was very uncomfortable at 2448 02:06:43,240 --> 02:06:45,720 Speaker 1: this point and asked Dana if it's okay if he 2449 02:06:45,880 --> 02:06:48,080 Speaker 1: drives to our house and she could sleep in the 2450 02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:51,120 Speaker 1: guest room, as her apartment would have added another thirty 2451 02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:56,200 Speaker 1: minutes to the drive. He insisted that she wanted to 2452 02:06:56,280 --> 02:06:59,760 Speaker 1: go home, so Phil took her home. As she got out, 2453 02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:03,400 Speaker 1: he asked Phil if he could walk her back to 2454 02:07:03,520 --> 02:07:09,160 Speaker 1: her apartment as she felt tipsy. But I see us 2455 02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:11,400 Speaker 1: in the chat if you see he's coming. After she 2456 02:07:11,640 --> 02:07:15,640 Speaker 1: opened the apartment door, he hugged Phil and said thank you. 2457 02:07:16,480 --> 02:07:19,280 Speaker 1: Bill said that he was sorry that the hug lingered 2458 02:07:19,320 --> 02:07:21,600 Speaker 1: too wrong, and they had a moment. 2459 02:07:24,280 --> 02:07:26,160 Speaker 3: I had. Do you think this is trickle truth? 2460 02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:28,280 Speaker 2: What a hug? 2461 02:07:28,560 --> 02:07:29,880 Speaker 1: Do you think they're getting a trickle truth? 2462 02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:30,080 Speaker 4: Though? 2463 02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:32,440 Speaker 1: Is it just a hug? If she's just admitting to 2464 02:07:32,520 --> 02:07:34,520 Speaker 1: a hug? But it was actually more my question. 2465 02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:36,640 Speaker 3: Did she ever put her shirt back on? 2466 02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:37,040 Speaker 4: No? 2467 02:07:37,200 --> 02:07:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't think so, because that's how the glitter got 2468 02:07:39,320 --> 02:07:40,840 Speaker 1: on him, or at least that's what he's saying. 2469 02:07:41,080 --> 02:07:43,920 Speaker 3: Oh, but she's still wearing her bikini top. Probably yeah, okay. 2470 02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:48,280 Speaker 1: I had tears rolling down my eyes and asked him 2471 02:07:48,920 --> 02:07:54,000 Speaker 1: if they kissed. Bill told me, of course not, but 2472 02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:56,840 Speaker 1: he cannot describe it, but there was definitely a moment 2473 02:07:56,920 --> 02:07:59,920 Speaker 1: between them where it was like a hug that lingered. 2474 02:07:59,640 --> 02:08:00,840 Speaker 3: A little bit too long. 2475 02:08:01,040 --> 02:08:04,240 Speaker 4: Eye contact, Yeah, bjis. 2476 02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:09,400 Speaker 1: He told me that Dana invited him in but he 2477 02:08:09,560 --> 02:08:12,480 Speaker 1: immediately told Dana that he had to leave and made 2478 02:08:12,520 --> 02:08:16,240 Speaker 1: a run to the car. I kept on asking what happened, 2479 02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:18,640 Speaker 1: and he just said they had a moment that he 2480 02:08:18,680 --> 02:08:21,200 Speaker 1: felt he could not control and just got out of there. 2481 02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:25,320 Speaker 1: After he came home, Dana messaged Phil that he should 2482 02:08:25,320 --> 02:08:28,000 Speaker 1: have come inside the apartment. Bill kept on telling Dana 2483 02:08:28,120 --> 02:08:29,800 Speaker 1: that it was an accident and to forget about it, 2484 02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:32,800 Speaker 1: but Dana kept on asking Phil if he has attracted 2485 02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:35,400 Speaker 1: to her and if he had a good time. Phil 2486 02:08:35,520 --> 02:08:38,240 Speaker 1: told Dana that he has not attracted her and never 2487 02:08:38,360 --> 02:08:41,120 Speaker 1: will be and told her to not tell me about it. 2488 02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:44,960 Speaker 1: She agreed, and he deleted all the messages. He said 2489 02:08:45,000 --> 02:08:47,200 Speaker 1: that he sat on the sofa because they were messaging 2490 02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:49,440 Speaker 1: each other for a long time and he did not 2491 02:08:49,680 --> 02:08:52,400 Speaker 1: want me to hear it. I asked him if he 2492 02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:55,200 Speaker 1: could retrieve the messages, and he told me he deleted 2493 02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:58,120 Speaker 1: them and also cleaned all his archive and sent messages. 2494 02:08:58,880 --> 02:09:01,880 Speaker 1: He wanted to forget the incident ever happened. I showed 2495 02:09:01,920 --> 02:09:04,440 Speaker 1: him my post and thanks to my comment, we went 2496 02:09:04,520 --> 02:09:07,480 Speaker 1: to find the messages on the SD card. Phil was 2497 02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:10,720 Speaker 1: right and the messages were the same as Phil described. Okay, 2498 02:09:10,760 --> 02:09:15,720 Speaker 1: really quick, How do you guys feel about Phil right now? 2499 02:09:16,000 --> 02:09:17,360 Speaker 1: Is this breakup territory? 2500 02:09:17,560 --> 02:09:18,160 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 2501 02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:22,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that Phil like why hide it? Yeah? 2502 02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:24,320 Speaker 4: Like you like? 2503 02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:27,840 Speaker 3: It seems to me that in the way that Phil 2504 02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:31,200 Speaker 3: was describing it, he kind of did everything right. It 2505 02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:33,120 Speaker 3: was like, Okay, maybe there's a hug that lingered too long, 2506 02:09:33,200 --> 02:09:37,720 Speaker 3: so I removed myself from the situation, and he was like, 2507 02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:39,600 Speaker 3: but why hide it? 2508 02:09:39,760 --> 02:09:39,960 Speaker 2: Why? 2509 02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:40,400 Speaker 5: Yeah? 2510 02:09:40,520 --> 02:09:41,040 Speaker 3: It feels like. 2511 02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:45,120 Speaker 1: What we said before is he hid the messages because 2512 02:09:45,160 --> 02:09:47,720 Speaker 1: he didn't want to ruin the relationship that OPI had 2513 02:09:47,840 --> 02:09:52,520 Speaker 1: with her friend and is lying to as she said 2514 02:09:52,520 --> 02:09:55,080 Speaker 1: in the beginning, to protect her feelings your partner. 2515 02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:57,560 Speaker 7: Trump's that And I feel like that's like you can't 2516 02:09:57,640 --> 02:09:59,000 Speaker 7: have anything without communication. 2517 02:10:00,760 --> 02:10:05,200 Speaker 1: So do you think if he said do you think 2518 02:10:05,360 --> 02:10:08,000 Speaker 1: he said it immediately, it would have been different, Yes, 2519 02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:11,720 Speaker 1: orse definitely. But the fact that he hit it for 2520 02:10:11,800 --> 02:10:14,920 Speaker 1: a month means like, can you trust? And I think 2521 02:10:15,000 --> 02:10:18,320 Speaker 1: this is kind of a I think this is a 2522 02:10:20,320 --> 02:10:30,120 Speaker 1: an example of if if you communicate as as soon 2523 02:10:30,160 --> 02:10:33,680 Speaker 1: as possible, you can even make like pretty bad situations 2524 02:10:34,040 --> 02:10:38,720 Speaker 1: like workable. But the longer that things go. And also 2525 02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:41,920 Speaker 1: I think what also we saw is she already knew 2526 02:10:41,960 --> 02:10:44,200 Speaker 1: the red flag from the beginning. She literally set it 2527 02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:47,360 Speaker 1: up front even before this update. She was like, he 2528 02:10:47,520 --> 02:10:51,600 Speaker 1: lies to protect my feelings, which is not a good 2529 02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:54,400 Speaker 1: character trait because it's people pleasing, and it's also like, 2530 02:10:54,760 --> 02:10:56,640 Speaker 1: it's not lying to protect your feelings. I feel like 2531 02:10:56,720 --> 02:10:57,600 Speaker 1: it's more lying. 2532 02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:03,360 Speaker 3: To Finch of the image of that she has of him, 2533 02:11:03,440 --> 02:11:03,920 Speaker 3: and also to. 2534 02:11:03,960 --> 02:11:07,400 Speaker 1: Maybe lying to not have to deal with her feelings. Yep, 2535 02:11:07,600 --> 02:11:08,840 Speaker 1: I think that's more what it is. 2536 02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:12,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is onto Dana. She was in a long 2537 02:11:12,720 --> 02:11:15,680 Speaker 4: term relationship, she got out of it. It was very abusive. 2538 02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:18,600 Speaker 4: Her boyfriend would control who she would be around a lot. 2539 02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:20,160 Speaker 4: I feel like this is her way of being, like 2540 02:11:20,560 --> 02:11:22,240 Speaker 4: I can hang out with whoever I want and do 2541 02:11:22,360 --> 02:11:24,960 Speaker 4: whatever I want now, And this is like a sense 2542 02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:26,720 Speaker 4: of rebellion. I kind of see between. 2543 02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:30,480 Speaker 2: You know, she's free, Yeah, she's free to do whatever. 2544 02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:32,880 Speaker 3: Are you in her class? 2545 02:11:33,080 --> 02:11:33,400 Speaker 1: Riley? 2546 02:11:33,480 --> 02:11:34,280 Speaker 3: What's going on here? 2547 02:11:35,120 --> 02:11:35,320 Speaker 4: Are you? 2548 02:11:35,360 --> 02:11:36,240 Speaker 3: When are you graduating? 2549 02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:36,560 Speaker 4: Dude? 2550 02:11:36,560 --> 02:11:39,720 Speaker 3: I'm learning you crushed it. Well, we do have. 2551 02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:46,240 Speaker 1: More of the story. This is where things got super weird. 2552 02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:49,480 Speaker 1: We're not even in weird territory. Oh not the weird 2553 02:11:49,560 --> 02:11:52,920 Speaker 1: territory right now, I invited Dana for brunch yesterday and 2554 02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:55,080 Speaker 1: met her. I told her that I talked to Phil 2555 02:11:55,360 --> 02:11:58,839 Speaker 1: and he confessed everything that happened night. And he confessed 2556 02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:02,320 Speaker 1: everything that happened that night during the concert. I asked 2557 02:12:02,320 --> 02:12:04,320 Speaker 1: her that I wanted to give her a chance to 2558 02:12:04,360 --> 02:12:07,879 Speaker 1: tell her side of the story. Dana immediately became defensive. 2559 02:12:08,240 --> 02:12:11,280 Speaker 1: The story was the same until they got to her apartment. 2560 02:12:12,360 --> 02:12:15,200 Speaker 1: Dana said that she opened her apartment door, she gave 2561 02:12:15,280 --> 02:12:18,480 Speaker 1: Phil a long hug for a great evening. She said 2562 02:12:18,920 --> 02:12:22,920 Speaker 1: that she could feel Phil wanted more, but nothing happened 2563 02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:25,840 Speaker 1: beyond that. I asked her why she invited him inside 2564 02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:28,760 Speaker 1: the apartment. She told me that she wanted to offer 2565 02:12:28,920 --> 02:12:32,200 Speaker 1: him some water and a snack as he was driving 2566 02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:36,600 Speaker 1: for a long time. Sus I said that it's really 2567 02:12:36,760 --> 02:12:40,160 Speaker 1: a b move to invite my husband in her apartment 2568 02:12:40,240 --> 02:12:42,960 Speaker 1: at one am at night when she felt he wanted 2569 02:12:43,080 --> 02:12:45,440 Speaker 1: more from her than a hug. She said that I 2570 02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:48,080 Speaker 1: was just being jealous and crazy. We started arguing, and 2571 02:12:48,160 --> 02:12:50,839 Speaker 1: she blurted out that she was not the one popping 2572 02:12:51,200 --> 02:12:53,800 Speaker 1: boners during the hug. 2573 02:12:54,360 --> 02:12:55,440 Speaker 4: That's what the moment is. 2574 02:12:56,720 --> 02:12:58,240 Speaker 3: That's what the moment was. 2575 02:13:00,240 --> 02:13:06,400 Speaker 1: It was a little movement ah oh Man. I told 2576 02:13:06,440 --> 02:13:08,360 Speaker 1: her she is never going to see Phil again in 2577 02:13:08,400 --> 02:13:12,240 Speaker 1: her life as our friendship is done. She started shouting 2578 02:13:12,280 --> 02:13:14,400 Speaker 1: that she know Phil loves her and he does not 2579 02:13:14,640 --> 02:13:17,640 Speaker 1: act on it because of me. She went on about 2580 02:13:17,680 --> 02:13:20,280 Speaker 1: how I'm always complaining about Phil and do not deserve him. 2581 02:13:20,480 --> 02:13:22,280 Speaker 1: She said that Phil has been so nice to her 2582 02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:24,440 Speaker 1: after the breakup and she feels he would leave me 2583 02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:26,880 Speaker 1: for her if he had the chance. She finally said 2584 02:13:27,080 --> 02:13:30,200 Speaker 1: that she could make Phil way happier than I ever could, 2585 02:13:30,520 --> 02:13:33,160 Speaker 1: and he started to realize it now. At this point, 2586 02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:35,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to avoid a blowout and walked away. 2587 02:13:35,600 --> 02:13:38,400 Speaker 1: I talked to Phil at night and what Dana said. 2588 02:13:38,680 --> 02:13:41,080 Speaker 1: He confirmed to me that he did become aroused when 2589 02:13:41,120 --> 02:13:43,600 Speaker 1: hugging Dana that night, and he does not know why. 2590 02:13:43,960 --> 02:13:46,760 Speaker 1: Dana held his hand and invited him after the hug 2591 02:13:46,880 --> 02:13:48,800 Speaker 1: and he just ran towards his car. He said he 2592 02:13:48,880 --> 02:13:52,120 Speaker 1: feels guilty about him. He said he feels guilty about it, 2593 02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:54,080 Speaker 1: but does not mean he has feelings for Dana. He 2594 02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:56,360 Speaker 1: said he's very happy being married to me and would 2595 02:13:56,440 --> 02:13:57,640 Speaker 1: like to keep it that way for the rest of 2596 02:13:57,680 --> 02:14:00,280 Speaker 1: his life. Although I am relieved that nothing happened between them. 2597 02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:02,480 Speaker 1: It's hard for me to process my thoughts. I feel 2598 02:14:02,520 --> 02:14:04,760 Speaker 1: mad at Phil for hugging Dana in the middle of 2599 02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:08,080 Speaker 1: the night when she's barely wearing anything. He should know better. 2600 02:14:08,440 --> 02:14:10,520 Speaker 1: On the other hand, I feel like an a hole 2601 02:14:10,680 --> 02:14:13,520 Speaker 1: myself that my best friend had a thing for my 2602 02:14:13,640 --> 02:14:16,920 Speaker 1: husband that I had no clue about and push both 2603 02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:19,680 Speaker 1: of them to go to the concert together. Also, if 2604 02:14:19,680 --> 02:14:22,320 Speaker 1: you're hugging someone for long enough to get to an erection, 2605 02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:24,000 Speaker 1: probably a bad move. 2606 02:14:25,160 --> 02:14:27,840 Speaker 3: Comments it's harder to tell. 2607 02:14:28,640 --> 02:14:31,120 Speaker 7: But also like, why was he hugging her in her 2608 02:14:31,200 --> 02:14:32,320 Speaker 7: inebriated state? 2609 02:14:33,120 --> 02:14:35,680 Speaker 3: Hmm he they said she didn't. 2610 02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:37,680 Speaker 2: She didn't have a shirt on, Like I would just 2611 02:14:37,720 --> 02:14:43,440 Speaker 2: be like respectfully, no, yeah, okayib elbow. 2612 02:14:44,640 --> 02:14:49,640 Speaker 1: Both I feel are pretty toxic. DNA seems even like 2613 02:14:49,800 --> 02:14:56,160 Speaker 1: way toxic. I feel like the husband is making some 2614 02:14:56,680 --> 02:15:00,360 Speaker 1: very bad choices and has a toxic character trait. Uh, 2615 02:15:00,600 --> 02:15:03,600 Speaker 1: we got trickle truth. He like didn't mention like, if 2616 02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:05,680 Speaker 1: you're being confronted with us, he should have immediately said 2617 02:15:05,800 --> 02:15:08,360 Speaker 1: I popped a popped a pitched a tent when I 2618 02:15:08,440 --> 02:15:11,840 Speaker 1: was hugging data, which maybe would have made things a 2619 02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:13,840 Speaker 1: little bit better than it. Coming from him, I mean, 2620 02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:15,800 Speaker 1: not a great thing to have to admit, but. 2621 02:15:16,080 --> 02:15:21,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, dude, I mean here's here's my question. Do 2622 02:15:21,240 --> 02:15:25,600 Speaker 3: they deserve each other in data and in the negative? 2623 02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:29,600 Speaker 3: In the negative way of like is it is it worth? 2624 02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:31,480 Speaker 4: No? 2625 02:15:31,800 --> 02:15:34,840 Speaker 3: Like it's Bill does not seem like the man. 2626 02:15:34,800 --> 02:15:37,400 Speaker 1: Tricia de sis phil is a pathological liar as a 2627 02:15:38,360 --> 02:15:42,360 Speaker 1: as a medical doctor in training, does this feel like 2628 02:15:42,520 --> 02:15:43,520 Speaker 1: pathological lying? 2629 02:15:43,680 --> 02:15:44,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. 2630 02:15:44,120 --> 02:15:46,840 Speaker 7: I think like a part of me wants to give them, 2631 02:15:47,080 --> 02:15:51,480 Speaker 7: like both of them, grace individually, but I think like 2632 02:15:51,520 --> 02:15:55,000 Speaker 7: the situation oh as a whole just is not favorable 2633 02:15:55,160 --> 02:15:57,440 Speaker 7: for them because it's like I think he you know, 2634 02:15:57,520 --> 02:16:00,200 Speaker 7: he was honest about everything, but it was just like 2635 02:16:00,520 --> 02:16:03,879 Speaker 7: the timing and the fact that he has this like history, 2636 02:16:04,240 --> 02:16:04,480 Speaker 7: but he. 2637 02:16:04,600 --> 02:16:08,480 Speaker 1: Was only honest after being confronted, which I think is 2638 02:16:08,520 --> 02:16:13,360 Speaker 1: an important distinction, like honesty when it's still so. 2639 02:16:13,480 --> 02:16:16,080 Speaker 2: Super red flag and I don't know that that would 2640 02:16:16,120 --> 02:16:18,800 Speaker 2: ever fly for me, but you know, like. 2641 02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:23,280 Speaker 1: I feel it's not like I U. For me, the 2642 02:16:23,320 --> 02:16:27,680 Speaker 1: biggest red flag is not what what actually happened the communication. 2643 02:16:27,880 --> 02:16:29,400 Speaker 3: It's the communication that is. 2644 02:16:29,880 --> 02:16:33,520 Speaker 1: Like the if that happened to me as like a 2645 02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:36,560 Speaker 1: partner if I was Ope, Yeah, I feel like I 2646 02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:39,360 Speaker 1: would be way more upset about the trickle truth, oh 2647 02:16:39,400 --> 02:16:41,920 Speaker 1: for sure, and the actual things that occurred, because you 2648 02:16:42,000 --> 02:16:43,560 Speaker 1: know that that means like, you know, what else are 2649 02:16:43,560 --> 02:16:44,080 Speaker 1: you hiding. 2650 02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:45,040 Speaker 7: At that at the end of the day, it's his 2651 02:16:45,160 --> 02:16:47,520 Speaker 7: responsibility to tell his partner, like this happened. 2652 02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:51,360 Speaker 3: And I'm getting into conspiracy theory land, but I think 2653 02:16:51,560 --> 02:16:54,560 Speaker 3: that he I think what's happening with both of them 2654 02:16:54,720 --> 02:16:57,800 Speaker 3: is they're both like building these like feelings for each 2655 02:16:57,840 --> 02:17:03,520 Speaker 3: other and op kind of I think if left unattended, 2656 02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:06,680 Speaker 3: it would have exploded and they would have gotten together. 2657 02:17:07,000 --> 02:17:10,200 Speaker 1: Well, actually, I think a little bit slightly differently. I 2658 02:17:10,360 --> 02:17:15,080 Speaker 1: think the boner was the explosion and that's why they separated. 2659 02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:17,080 Speaker 1: Phil was like, I don't want to talk to her anymore. 2660 02:17:17,280 --> 02:17:19,360 Speaker 1: This is too real, this is getting to the point, 2661 02:17:19,640 --> 02:17:23,160 Speaker 1: and separated. But I think what Phil did wrong, I mean, 2662 02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:25,320 Speaker 1: he filled a lot wrong, But the biggest thing I 2663 02:17:25,400 --> 02:17:28,320 Speaker 1: feel like he did wrong was not talking about anything 2664 02:17:28,360 --> 02:17:29,400 Speaker 1: immediately after it happened. 2665 02:17:29,480 --> 02:17:32,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I agree with that, or even well, I 2666 02:17:32,560 --> 02:17:36,440 Speaker 3: guess was she home at homelessly because they left separately 2667 02:17:36,480 --> 02:17:39,039 Speaker 3: after the concert, right, they stayed longer in the concert or. 2668 02:17:39,200 --> 02:17:41,880 Speaker 1: What happened is so they went to the concert together 2669 02:17:41,959 --> 02:17:46,240 Speaker 1: because Op couldn't go, and then she insisted to be 2670 02:17:46,400 --> 02:17:49,280 Speaker 1: driven back to her house, probably to make a move 2671 02:17:49,320 --> 02:17:51,960 Speaker 1: on Phil. And then it was like can you walk 2672 02:17:52,040 --> 02:17:55,560 Speaker 1: me to my apartment to make a move on Phil, 2673 02:17:55,920 --> 02:17:57,880 Speaker 1: and then kind of made a move on Phil with 2674 02:17:58,040 --> 02:18:02,160 Speaker 1: the hug Phil poppeda popped a boner and then it was. 2675 02:18:02,200 --> 02:18:04,920 Speaker 3: Like, oh, here's my question. Why didn't he tell her 2676 02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:08,119 Speaker 3: literally instantly in the moment that like, yo, your friend 2677 02:18:08,240 --> 02:18:11,760 Speaker 3: is like super sloshed, and I think I like, well, 2678 02:18:11,800 --> 02:18:16,640 Speaker 3: she was asleep. Op went no, no, no, like even 2679 02:18:16,720 --> 02:18:17,240 Speaker 3: just text her. 2680 02:18:18,040 --> 02:18:19,560 Speaker 1: I mean I think he I think he could he 2681 02:18:19,800 --> 02:18:21,640 Speaker 1: he could have done it, but she he texted her 2682 02:18:21,640 --> 02:18:23,880 Speaker 1: at eleven, she didn't respond because she was asleep, So 2683 02:18:24,560 --> 02:18:27,840 Speaker 1: it could have been that, but still, like what would 2684 02:18:27,840 --> 02:18:31,080 Speaker 1: have the best thing is to like to be like, hey, 2685 02:18:31,200 --> 02:18:34,200 Speaker 1: this happened immediately, and then the next day when she 2686 02:18:34,320 --> 02:18:37,200 Speaker 1: wakes up like hey this happened immediately a month later, 2687 02:18:37,240 --> 02:18:38,640 Speaker 1: it makes it bad. 2688 02:18:38,959 --> 02:18:41,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I feel like I would have, Like if 2689 02:18:41,800 --> 02:18:44,560 Speaker 3: there was in the moment where it's like, Okay, this 2690 02:18:44,680 --> 02:18:47,920 Speaker 3: person needs to get home safe. It's like even if 2691 02:18:47,920 --> 02:18:50,000 Speaker 3: they're not even if they're not not around, like hey, 2692 02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:52,960 Speaker 3: just letting you know, like this is happening. Yeah, I 2693 02:18:53,160 --> 02:18:55,440 Speaker 3: gonna get her home safe for whatever. 2694 02:18:55,720 --> 02:18:57,640 Speaker 7: That's fine, you know, like good on him taking care 2695 02:18:57,680 --> 02:19:01,280 Speaker 7: of the friend. But also like things started getting three. 2696 02:19:03,280 --> 02:19:06,840 Speaker 1: But that's where this story ends. Wow, and I believe 2697 02:19:06,920 --> 02:19:11,119 Speaker 1: that is where our time with Steph ens. So Sophia 2698 02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:14,640 Speaker 1: is going to take my place while I walk Steph out. 2699 02:19:16,040 --> 02:19:21,480 Speaker 1: Huh but uh. Put some docs in the chat shout out, 2700 02:19:22,840 --> 02:19:26,000 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. You were great, 2701 02:19:26,200 --> 02:19:29,360 Speaker 1: happy to be here, and maybe she'll be back soon. 2702 02:19:29,720 --> 02:19:32,160 Speaker 2: All right, bye, everyone. 2703 02:19:32,000 --> 02:19:41,200 Speaker 3: Day what's up, ladies and gentlemen, it's your boy. We're up. 2704 02:19:43,800 --> 02:19:51,920 Speaker 3: I've been cutting half. There we go. Kimberly Fine says 2705 02:19:52,000 --> 02:19:55,760 Speaker 3: in the moment he would own it. Yeah, like own 2706 02:19:55,840 --> 02:19:58,760 Speaker 3: up to it. I don't know, Joslyn says, Op, please 2707 02:19:58,879 --> 02:20:04,000 Speaker 3: dump Phil, doctor Phil. That's what we're saying. Oh my god, 2708 02:20:05,840 --> 02:20:08,120 Speaker 3: bye guys, guys, Thanks for thanks for all of the 2709 02:20:08,520 --> 02:20:11,959 Speaker 3: kind comments of stuff. Love love to see this, love 2710 02:20:12,080 --> 02:20:17,480 Speaker 3: to see this. Nicole hadn't sam hobbling out loll look 2711 02:20:17,680 --> 02:20:22,400 Speaker 3: he he heroically rolled his ankle harder than it's ever rolled. Okay, 2712 02:20:22,480 --> 02:20:26,320 Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen. He he took a stand and then 2713 02:20:26,400 --> 02:20:30,600 Speaker 3: took a fall. Okay, and you know, consequences happened. Sometimes 2714 02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:36,200 Speaker 3: that's what happened. So there we go, Sophia. 2715 02:20:36,280 --> 02:20:39,200 Speaker 2: How you doing, I'm doing chill. I was just reading 2716 02:20:39,320 --> 02:20:40,560 Speaker 2: my book and eating some dinner. 2717 02:20:40,840 --> 02:20:46,039 Speaker 3: Love that. Yeah, dude, I haven't eat today. I haven't 2718 02:20:46,080 --> 02:20:46,840 Speaker 3: eaten lunch today. 2719 02:20:46,840 --> 02:20:48,600 Speaker 2: They're sushi and the little fridge. 2720 02:20:48,879 --> 02:20:51,160 Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna hop on some stuff in a bit, 2721 02:20:51,560 --> 02:20:54,600 Speaker 3: on some food. But I have to I have to 2722 02:20:54,640 --> 02:20:58,080 Speaker 3: stay with the gang. I have to say. Caro says 2723 02:20:58,240 --> 02:21:01,520 Speaker 3: lm ao take a stand, and the universe would told 2724 02:21:01,600 --> 02:21:03,800 Speaker 3: him to sit back down and do this lot. 2725 02:21:04,800 --> 02:21:06,520 Speaker 2: He literally has to be here. 2726 02:21:06,879 --> 02:21:10,080 Speaker 3: That's correct. Like we will we will explode if we 2727 02:21:11,120 --> 02:21:13,680 Speaker 3: if we leave. Oh, by the way, we are what. 2728 02:21:15,280 --> 02:21:15,400 Speaker 4: You know. 2729 02:21:15,440 --> 02:21:17,160 Speaker 3: I was about to say, Sapie, we're about to say. 2730 02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:18,959 Speaker 3: I was about to say, we're one like away from 2731 02:21:18,959 --> 02:21:19,960 Speaker 3: a wheelsip. I think that's what. 2732 02:21:20,280 --> 02:21:22,440 Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like you counted your chickens a little 2733 02:21:22,480 --> 02:21:23,000 Speaker 2: too soon. 2734 02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:26,520 Speaker 3: I did, because they hash said, we got ourselves wheelspin 2735 02:21:26,640 --> 02:21:29,480 Speaker 3: on a hand. Why don't we why don't we do 2736 02:21:29,760 --> 02:21:32,760 Speaker 3: a John and soap wheel Spin? How does that sound? 2737 02:21:34,760 --> 02:21:35,280 Speaker 4: Man me? 2738 02:21:36,280 --> 02:21:39,080 Speaker 3: We're bringing it up right now and we gotta spend 2739 02:21:39,120 --> 02:21:47,520 Speaker 3: a wheel for you. Yeah easy? Whoa, no, all right, 2740 02:21:47,720 --> 02:21:53,600 Speaker 3: let's spin that. We all Sophia can't talk? What is that? 2741 02:21:54,560 --> 02:21:56,560 Speaker 3: Ten more minutes. 2742 02:21:58,480 --> 02:22:00,000 Speaker 2: Remembers members? 2743 02:22:01,560 --> 02:22:07,000 Speaker 3: Oh my good Dolly goubers. Guys, guys, we're doing this 2744 02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:09,920 Speaker 3: new little thing. You guys have been so amazing at 2745 02:22:09,920 --> 02:22:13,000 Speaker 3: growing our family and bringing more bringing more nights to 2746 02:22:13,040 --> 02:22:16,400 Speaker 3: our army. Okay, we're going to give ten memberships away 2747 02:22:16,480 --> 02:22:19,240 Speaker 3: right now because that is what Riley added to the 2748 02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:22,879 Speaker 3: wheel and we need. We will not stop. We will 2749 02:22:22,959 --> 02:22:32,120 Speaker 3: not stop until we will not stop. We will not 2750 02:22:32,200 --> 02:22:36,640 Speaker 3: stop until every human being on planet Earth is a 2751 02:22:36,720 --> 02:22:42,920 Speaker 3: member of our family. Okay, by now, what are we doing? 2752 02:22:43,320 --> 02:22:46,800 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Riley's and Riley's setting it up stickers and 2753 02:22:46,840 --> 02:22:51,039 Speaker 4: super chats. I might I might be able to let 2754 02:22:51,120 --> 02:22:55,120 Speaker 4: me switch my account. Whoa, So, guys, we're we're on it, 2755 02:22:55,879 --> 02:22:58,119 Speaker 4: all right, we are. We are on the case. 2756 02:22:58,360 --> 02:23:03,080 Speaker 3: We're on the case. That's so awesome. People are liking it, 2757 02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:06,360 Speaker 3: people are people are liking this idea, guys. The question 2758 02:23:06,480 --> 02:23:07,640 Speaker 3: is will we be able to do it? I don't 2759 02:23:07,640 --> 02:23:10,240 Speaker 3: know that's that's we're looking into it. We're looking into 2760 02:23:10,280 --> 02:23:13,480 Speaker 3: it as we speak. I'm looking into it simultaneously as 2761 02:23:13,560 --> 02:23:17,400 Speaker 3: Riley's looking at it. Ah, my head. 2762 02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:22,280 Speaker 4: On the go to O B S. 2763 02:23:22,600 --> 02:23:26,040 Speaker 2: I freaking do what do it? Freaking do it? 2764 02:23:26,240 --> 02:23:28,840 Speaker 3: That's just handa. Don't cut John and half guy. Let me, Sophia, 2765 02:23:28,959 --> 02:23:29,200 Speaker 3: let me. 2766 02:23:29,320 --> 02:23:31,640 Speaker 4: Live, well, let me give memberships, let me live. 2767 02:23:31,840 --> 02:23:32,680 Speaker 3: I might be able to do it. 2768 02:23:32,959 --> 02:23:33,680 Speaker 4: What the freak? 2769 02:23:35,560 --> 02:23:39,360 Speaker 3: But guys, yes, and we're gonna, We're gonna, we're gonna 2770 02:23:39,400 --> 02:23:41,360 Speaker 3: hit another story. Oh should we let's Sophia, let's go 2771 02:23:41,360 --> 02:23:43,760 Speaker 3: ahead and add another Oh wait, I was gonna add 2772 02:23:43,760 --> 02:23:44,680 Speaker 3: another ten minutes, but. 2773 02:23:46,320 --> 02:23:50,640 Speaker 2: I won't. We are going to ready for another story. 2774 02:23:50,840 --> 02:23:52,840 Speaker 3: You know we're ready for another story. I'm gonna see 2775 02:23:52,840 --> 02:23:57,000 Speaker 3: you real quick. If if I cannot assist Riley in 2776 02:23:57,480 --> 02:24:01,480 Speaker 3: giving me people what they want, I have a bunch 2777 02:24:01,560 --> 02:24:11,320 Speaker 3: of you need to just flick through here swap all right, Sophia, 2778 02:24:11,320 --> 02:24:12,199 Speaker 3: where I'm what am I reading? 2779 02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:13,440 Speaker 5: Tell me. 2780 02:24:16,920 --> 02:24:23,400 Speaker 1: Six six fifty seven s one six one. 2781 02:24:24,720 --> 02:24:29,800 Speaker 4: That's the wrong one either, it still has the two options. Uh, 2782 02:24:29,879 --> 02:24:30,400 Speaker 4: switch through. 2783 02:24:30,959 --> 02:24:33,560 Speaker 3: I have my like John fry one and then maybe okay, 2784 02:24:33,640 --> 02:24:36,960 Speaker 3: storytime because I think I was able to see it 2785 02:24:37,080 --> 02:24:40,640 Speaker 3: before on Okay the Okay storytime account. Do we know 2786 02:24:40,680 --> 02:24:43,320 Speaker 3: if it's an S one or S two, Sophia, it's 2787 02:24:43,480 --> 02:24:47,440 Speaker 3: S one. Let's freaking go all right, s I am ready. 2788 02:24:49,720 --> 02:24:52,800 Speaker 3: My boyfriend offered to take me to Europe, but now 2789 02:24:52,920 --> 02:24:56,959 Speaker 3: he wants me to pay him back. Well, hey, Sophia, 2790 02:24:58,280 --> 02:25:00,520 Speaker 3: happy birthday. Here's this new car. 2791 02:25:00,680 --> 02:25:01,800 Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you so much. 2792 02:25:01,920 --> 02:25:05,320 Speaker 3: I'll take it, Sofia. That will be thirty thousand dollars 2793 02:25:05,400 --> 02:25:12,520 Speaker 3: plus ten percent interest here right now. Yep, guys, this 2794 02:25:12,640 --> 02:25:14,720 Speaker 3: is the answer. What are the deal breakers in a relationship? 2795 02:25:14,720 --> 02:25:16,600 Speaker 3: And it comes from the Garden of Thorns, who says, 2796 02:25:16,760 --> 02:25:19,120 Speaker 3: I don't even know how our way to start this, 2797 02:25:19,280 --> 02:25:22,120 Speaker 3: but here it goes. My boyfriend twenty four male and 2798 02:25:22,240 --> 02:25:25,200 Speaker 3: I twenty five female, have been together for years. We 2799 02:25:25,320 --> 02:25:28,520 Speaker 3: both live separately, and he recently moved out on his own. However, 2800 02:25:28,680 --> 02:25:31,480 Speaker 3: his family is now staying with him on and off. Wow. 2801 02:25:31,959 --> 02:25:33,720 Speaker 3: We've always had a good relationship when it came to 2802 02:25:33,800 --> 02:25:36,160 Speaker 3: respecting each other's boundaries and having a solid foundation in 2803 02:25:36,280 --> 02:25:39,000 Speaker 3: terms of trust. For the most part, our outings would 2804 02:25:39,040 --> 02:25:42,440 Speaker 3: go something like this. He would usually insisted on picking 2805 02:25:42,520 --> 02:25:44,600 Speaker 3: up the bill whenever we did dinner dates. I don't 2806 02:25:44,600 --> 02:25:48,000 Speaker 3: know anybody like that. I would buy the tickets on 2807 02:25:48,120 --> 02:25:50,320 Speaker 3: movie dates, and if he bought them, I would buy 2808 02:25:50,400 --> 02:25:53,560 Speaker 3: the food. That was until two years ago when I 2809 02:25:53,720 --> 02:25:57,120 Speaker 3: stopped working as I was diagnosed with a chronic autoimmune 2810 02:25:57,120 --> 02:26:00,000 Speaker 3: illness and then went through a very severe depression because 2811 02:26:00,200 --> 02:26:04,600 Speaker 3: of it. A year into me not working, he began 2812 02:26:04,720 --> 02:26:08,039 Speaker 3: to voice his frustration at quote unquote financially supporting our 2813 02:26:08,120 --> 02:26:11,440 Speaker 3: relationship by paying for dates. We definitely didn't go out 2814 02:26:11,480 --> 02:26:13,160 Speaker 3: on as many as we used to at this point. 2815 02:26:13,600 --> 02:26:16,800 Speaker 3: Fast forward to last September, I finally began to feel 2816 02:26:16,879 --> 02:26:20,200 Speaker 3: like myself again and decided to continue my undergrad which 2817 02:26:20,240 --> 02:26:23,240 Speaker 3: I had stopped to work full time to support my 2818 02:26:23,320 --> 02:26:27,280 Speaker 3: single mom prior to an illness, and was receiving my 2819 02:26:27,480 --> 02:26:31,600 Speaker 3: countries and was receiving my country's student loans. My boyfriend's 2820 02:26:31,680 --> 02:26:34,240 Speaker 3: family got a condo in Europe a few years back. 2821 02:26:34,640 --> 02:26:37,240 Speaker 3: He works full time, so his parents and siblings would 2822 02:26:37,240 --> 02:26:39,520 Speaker 3: go for the summer and I would temporarily stay with 2823 02:26:39,600 --> 02:26:42,080 Speaker 3: him at their family home to help out with the 2824 02:26:42,120 --> 02:26:45,480 Speaker 3: household stuff and watching the dog. One year he ended 2825 02:26:45,520 --> 02:26:47,960 Speaker 3: up going. One year he ended up going up for 2826 02:26:48,080 --> 02:26:51,000 Speaker 3: the holidays, and I stayed back with his dog. Well, 2827 02:26:51,080 --> 02:26:54,000 Speaker 3: fast forward now to this past holiday season, they were 2828 02:26:54,040 --> 02:26:56,760 Speaker 3: planning on going. They were planning on going, and my 2829 02:26:56,840 --> 02:26:59,600 Speaker 3: boyfriend asked me if I would come, But I told 2830 02:26:59,680 --> 02:27:02,520 Speaker 3: him this is completely outside of the realm of possibility 2831 02:27:02,560 --> 02:27:06,720 Speaker 3: for me given my financial situation. They're going on vacation. Ope, 2832 02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:09,560 Speaker 3: he has not been able to work. It's out of 2833 02:27:09,600 --> 02:27:11,879 Speaker 3: the budget. Yeah, it's out of the budget, Sophia. 2834 02:27:11,840 --> 02:27:12,760 Speaker 2: It's out of the budget. 2835 02:27:13,280 --> 02:27:16,120 Speaker 3: Over the following weeks, he proceeded to insist that he 2836 02:27:16,240 --> 02:27:19,720 Speaker 3: really wanted me there, that was important for him, That 2837 02:27:19,840 --> 02:27:24,039 Speaker 3: was important for him for that was important to him 2838 02:27:24,160 --> 02:27:26,720 Speaker 3: for us to enjoy this together, and offered to pay 2839 02:27:26,760 --> 02:27:29,720 Speaker 3: for the trip. I declined once again, as it didn't 2840 02:27:29,720 --> 02:27:33,039 Speaker 3: feel right to accept something like this, but he continued 2841 02:27:33,120 --> 02:27:35,720 Speaker 3: insisting and assured me that he would take care of everything. 2842 02:27:35,879 --> 02:27:38,360 Speaker 3: All I needed to do was I was bringing some 2843 02:27:38,440 --> 02:27:41,280 Speaker 3: spending money for myself. I still felt bad, so I 2844 02:27:41,400 --> 02:27:44,039 Speaker 3: looked into my student loans and saw that I still 2845 02:27:44,120 --> 02:27:50,440 Speaker 3: had some funds left released. He did some calculations and 2846 02:27:50,959 --> 02:27:53,800 Speaker 3: figured I'd receive five hundred dollars in my account. So 2847 02:27:54,680 --> 02:27:57,200 Speaker 3: and we agreed that I would use this money to 2848 02:27:57,320 --> 02:27:59,240 Speaker 3: pay him back in a way, even if it's just 2849 02:27:59,320 --> 02:28:01,960 Speaker 3: a small part. At this point, flights were going for 2850 02:28:01,959 --> 02:28:05,119 Speaker 3: around thirteen hundred dollars, but asked him not to purchase 2851 02:28:05,240 --> 02:28:08,520 Speaker 3: anything in the event of a price spike before talking 2852 02:28:08,600 --> 02:28:11,520 Speaker 3: to me. Let's let's take a real quick pause here, Sophia. Yeah, 2853 02:28:14,440 --> 02:28:16,480 Speaker 3: I see an ICU in the chat. I see a 2854 02:28:16,680 --> 02:28:17,200 Speaker 3: big old. 2855 02:28:17,360 --> 02:28:17,760 Speaker 4: I see you. 2856 02:28:17,959 --> 02:28:19,480 Speaker 3: What's your big old? I see your scenes if you. 2857 02:28:20,760 --> 02:28:23,600 Speaker 2: I am seeing that he is not going to talk 2858 02:28:23,680 --> 02:28:24,320 Speaker 2: to her before. 2859 02:28:25,840 --> 02:28:28,480 Speaker 3: Oh that's a great icee you. Yeah. I am seeing 2860 02:28:28,680 --> 02:28:31,480 Speaker 3: that he did this once, and I predict it's going 2861 02:28:31,520 --> 02:28:34,480 Speaker 3: to become a pattern where he's basically like, hey, like, oh, 2862 02:28:34,600 --> 02:28:36,120 Speaker 3: let me pay, like let me do this, d da 2863 02:28:36,200 --> 02:28:38,600 Speaker 3: da da, And he's like, I'm so tired of financially 2864 02:28:38,600 --> 02:28:40,680 Speaker 3: supporting you, like oh my gosh, like it's such a 2865 02:28:40,720 --> 02:28:43,840 Speaker 3: financial burden. And it's like, sir, you were the one 2866 02:28:43,920 --> 02:28:48,520 Speaker 3: that is offering, offering to do it, and then turning 2867 02:28:48,600 --> 02:28:51,039 Speaker 3: around and it's like, yeah, I. 2868 02:28:51,080 --> 02:28:54,600 Speaker 2: Think, I think if you offer, then you don't have 2869 02:28:55,160 --> 02:28:56,920 Speaker 2: any claim over that money. 2870 02:28:57,640 --> 02:29:02,440 Speaker 3: Exactly exactly like you The con the implicit contract in 2871 02:29:02,560 --> 02:29:06,680 Speaker 3: offering something is knowing that it is offering something, not 2872 02:29:06,800 --> 02:29:11,840 Speaker 3: alone you're giving, not giving a loan, yeah, or something 2873 02:29:12,160 --> 02:29:12,360 Speaker 3: like that. 2874 02:29:12,840 --> 02:29:15,000 Speaker 2: No, I think I think in the earlier part of 2875 02:29:15,040 --> 02:29:17,040 Speaker 2: the story where he was like, I'm paying a lot 2876 02:29:17,200 --> 02:29:20,720 Speaker 2: for food and dates and stuff and express that concern, 2877 02:29:20,840 --> 02:29:23,080 Speaker 2: I think that is a different thing that's valid. But 2878 02:29:23,200 --> 02:29:25,959 Speaker 2: this is where he's like, this is in Yeah, he's 2879 02:29:26,080 --> 02:29:27,879 Speaker 2: just offering and that's just a gift. 2880 02:29:27,680 --> 02:29:30,360 Speaker 3: At that point. Look, that's what I'm iceeing. Guys put 2881 02:29:30,440 --> 02:29:31,960 Speaker 3: an icy in the chat. If you see that too, 2882 02:29:32,160 --> 02:29:34,680 Speaker 3: or maybe you don't and you think I'm a raging lunatant, 2883 02:29:35,600 --> 02:29:39,080 Speaker 3: that's also valid. But let's find out. I spent the 2884 02:29:39,120 --> 02:29:42,760 Speaker 3: following three weeks reminding him that prices would spike soon. However, 2885 02:29:42,879 --> 02:29:45,600 Speaker 3: he ended up waiting until the last minute, and he 2886 02:29:45,760 --> 02:29:50,400 Speaker 3: bought a twenty seven hundred dollars flightah and didn't let 2887 02:29:50,480 --> 02:29:55,320 Speaker 3: me know until after the fact. Two days before our flight, 2888 02:29:55,480 --> 02:29:58,640 Speaker 3: I asked I was asked to be a bridesmaid. My 2889 02:29:58,760 --> 02:30:00,720 Speaker 3: boyfriend was with me in all the ride home, he 2890 02:30:00,840 --> 02:30:04,400 Speaker 3: expressed that sense I'd have to eventually pay for my 2891 02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:08,320 Speaker 3: own flight. Uh for the bat for the bachelor trip. 2892 02:30:08,480 --> 02:30:12,320 Speaker 3: Bachelor trip he thought it was only fair that I 2893 02:30:12,520 --> 02:30:14,480 Speaker 3: pay him back one thousand. 2894 02:30:14,200 --> 02:30:17,920 Speaker 2: Dollars and OPI has already said that she only has 2895 02:30:17,959 --> 02:30:19,440 Speaker 2: about five hundred dollars, right. 2896 02:30:19,600 --> 02:30:22,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was the one that like, did this crazy, 2897 02:30:23,040 --> 02:30:26,200 Speaker 3: which is already crazy, Like, yeah, looking at your student 2898 02:30:26,400 --> 02:30:31,840 Speaker 3: loans too, Yeah, to do this is insanity, ridiculous. 2899 02:30:32,879 --> 02:30:34,680 Speaker 2: I was at I was asked to be a bribesman. 2900 02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:35,760 Speaker 2: I always say this. 2901 02:30:37,240 --> 02:30:39,680 Speaker 3: He was adamant that if I went on a trip, 2902 02:30:39,800 --> 02:30:41,360 Speaker 3: that I should pay him back more. And at this 2903 02:30:41,480 --> 02:30:44,920 Speaker 3: point I couldn't really cancel. I fell back into a corner, 2904 02:30:45,040 --> 02:30:48,520 Speaker 3: so I said, Okay. Once we got back, I learned 2905 02:30:48,560 --> 02:30:51,280 Speaker 3: that my student loan had actually gone straight towards my 2906 02:30:51,400 --> 02:30:55,400 Speaker 3: tuition and no funds were released into my account. Our 2907 02:30:55,480 --> 02:30:56,720 Speaker 3: relationship has been rockies. 2908 02:30:57,400 --> 02:30:58,920 Speaker 2: I mean even just the fact that it was a 2909 02:30:58,959 --> 02:31:01,480 Speaker 2: student loan, that she was taking out money from his. 2910 02:31:02,800 --> 02:31:04,680 Speaker 3: It shouldn't have been done in the first place. Yeah, 2911 02:31:04,760 --> 02:31:08,560 Speaker 3: I used my student loans to buy cars from an 2912 02:31:08,560 --> 02:31:11,800 Speaker 3: auction to try and flip with student loans. Was that 2913 02:31:11,840 --> 02:31:14,920 Speaker 3: a smart idea? No? But if it made money, it 2914 02:31:14,920 --> 02:31:16,680 Speaker 3: would have been a smart idea. It would have been great. 2915 02:31:17,080 --> 02:31:18,880 Speaker 3: I lost all the money, but you know it was 2916 02:31:19,800 --> 02:31:22,080 Speaker 3: it would have been fair. Do you really really lose everything? 2917 02:31:23,720 --> 02:31:25,920 Speaker 3: I didn't lose everything. Now, how much do you use 2918 02:31:28,920 --> 02:31:33,120 Speaker 3: like percentage wise? I probably went from like five or 2919 02:31:33,240 --> 02:31:37,519 Speaker 3: seven grand to like two grand. I think that's significant 2920 02:31:37,560 --> 02:31:40,720 Speaker 3: something like that. That's a nineteen year old. That's eighteen 2921 02:31:41,280 --> 02:31:45,360 Speaker 3: significant as an eighteen year old dang ros learning lessons. 2922 02:31:45,800 --> 02:31:47,920 Speaker 3: And you know, my parents encouraged it really and it 2923 02:31:48,000 --> 02:31:51,080 Speaker 3: actually turned out to be the most w parenting unexpected 2924 02:31:51,120 --> 02:31:54,440 Speaker 3: parenting move ever. Why because it taught me like to 2925 02:31:54,600 --> 02:31:57,720 Speaker 3: not blow. I'm not even joking, like that is one 2926 02:31:57,760 --> 02:32:02,480 Speaker 3: of the most informative experience of my like early adult. 2927 02:32:02,160 --> 02:32:04,920 Speaker 1: Tth Yeah, I mean I think, like, I think it 2928 02:32:05,200 --> 02:32:08,879 Speaker 1: is important. It's important to learn what losing money feels 2929 02:32:08,959 --> 02:32:10,039 Speaker 1: like before you big money. 2930 02:32:10,160 --> 02:32:13,120 Speaker 3: They they let me fail in specific guide rails that 2931 02:32:13,320 --> 02:32:16,280 Speaker 3: like made me learn and grow like exponent. 2932 02:32:16,440 --> 02:32:18,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they knew you were gonna like you're gonna 2933 02:32:18,320 --> 02:32:20,400 Speaker 1: like be you were gonna be okay, that's right. 2934 02:32:20,680 --> 02:32:23,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, But I digress from my parents' great parenting. I 2935 02:32:24,040 --> 02:32:27,080 Speaker 3: fell back into a depression not me, ok as my 2936 02:32:27,200 --> 02:32:30,360 Speaker 3: university went on strike and my symptoms came back. I 2937 02:32:30,480 --> 02:32:31,960 Speaker 3: tried to find a job that would work for me 2938 02:32:32,000 --> 02:32:34,520 Speaker 3: in my situation, but I had no luck. I recently 2939 02:32:34,879 --> 02:32:36,879 Speaker 3: recovered from my flare up and one of my old 2940 02:32:36,920 --> 02:32:40,080 Speaker 3: bosses graciously hired me back as a server, giving me 2941 02:32:40,200 --> 02:32:43,240 Speaker 3: one shift per week for now until more shifts open up. 2942 02:32:43,920 --> 02:32:46,600 Speaker 3: I should also mention that my boyfriend's dog sadly passed 2943 02:32:46,600 --> 02:32:49,240 Speaker 3: away a month ago. My boyfriend's family went away for 2944 02:32:49,320 --> 02:32:52,400 Speaker 3: Europe again, and my friends flew out for the bachelorette 2945 02:32:52,400 --> 02:32:55,200 Speaker 3: trip that I unfortunately could not go on. While on 2946 02:32:55,280 --> 02:32:57,840 Speaker 3: the phone with my boyfriend, I jokingly asked him when 2947 02:32:57,879 --> 02:33:00,240 Speaker 3: he'd asked me to come stay with him now that 2948 02:33:00,320 --> 02:33:03,120 Speaker 3: he's got the place to himself. He coldly responded, I 2949 02:33:03,200 --> 02:33:05,480 Speaker 3: don't need you to stay with me. The dog's gone. 2950 02:33:05,800 --> 02:33:09,200 Speaker 3: Why would I feed two people? Why would I feed 2951 02:33:09,280 --> 02:33:12,480 Speaker 3: two people? Would I could just feed my self when 2952 02:33:12,480 --> 02:33:19,840 Speaker 3: I could? Yeah, that's fine for what for the gifted membership? 2953 02:33:20,000 --> 02:33:26,879 Speaker 3: Oh that's so horrible, dude, this I was a bit 2954 02:33:26,959 --> 02:33:29,920 Speaker 3: taken aback. We had an argument about this, but he 2955 02:33:30,000 --> 02:33:33,480 Speaker 3: didn't really understand why it was hurtful. A day later, 2956 02:33:33,600 --> 02:33:35,959 Speaker 3: I told him I was scheduled for my first shift back, 2957 02:33:36,000 --> 02:33:38,400 Speaker 3: and he responded saying that we should go on a 2958 02:33:38,520 --> 02:33:42,959 Speaker 3: repayment plan, and that he was again thinking twenty percent 2959 02:33:43,160 --> 02:33:46,560 Speaker 3: of each weekly pay I receive. Now this is a 2960 02:33:46,640 --> 02:33:49,560 Speaker 3: great place to stop and inform Sam, who is completely 2961 02:33:50,160 --> 02:33:53,640 Speaker 3: coming in blind here, so quick deal the rview deal 2962 02:33:53,680 --> 02:33:57,840 Speaker 3: The R view. So basically OP and boyfriend in a relationship. 2963 02:33:58,760 --> 02:34:00,400 Speaker 3: In the beginning, he would like, you know, offer to 2964 02:34:00,400 --> 02:34:01,960 Speaker 3: pay all the time for like dinners and stuff. He 2965 02:34:02,040 --> 02:34:04,480 Speaker 3: was kind of paying for the majority of stuff. She 2966 02:34:04,640 --> 02:34:10,280 Speaker 3: had a autoimmune issues, couldn't work anymore. And then later 2967 02:34:10,879 --> 02:34:12,920 Speaker 3: Op he was like, I feel like I'm like financially 2968 02:34:13,200 --> 02:34:15,600 Speaker 3: for supporting you, et cetera, et cetera. From what we know, 2969 02:34:15,720 --> 02:34:17,959 Speaker 3: he kind of considued he continued to be the one 2970 02:34:18,040 --> 02:34:20,160 Speaker 3: like offering kind of like no, no, no, I'm paying. No, no, no, 2971 02:34:20,320 --> 02:34:23,039 Speaker 3: I'm paying right, So kind of like, oh gosh, I'm 2972 02:34:23,120 --> 02:34:25,640 Speaker 3: like doing so much to financially support you. Meanwhile, he's 2973 02:34:25,680 --> 02:34:27,560 Speaker 3: like no, no, no, I'm paying, no, no, no, I'm paying. 2974 02:34:29,360 --> 02:34:34,440 Speaker 3: So then the relationship was not looking so great. The 2975 02:34:35,280 --> 02:34:37,640 Speaker 3: boyfriend's family was doing this vacation. He's like, really want 2976 02:34:37,680 --> 02:34:40,560 Speaker 3: you here, Like I can't afford it. Hey, I'll pay 2977 02:34:40,640 --> 02:34:42,760 Speaker 3: for the vacation, don't worry about it. She's like, as 2978 02:34:42,800 --> 02:34:45,000 Speaker 3: long as you don't like do it against me, or 2979 02:34:45,240 --> 02:34:46,879 Speaker 3: hold it against me, or or get a flight that's 2980 02:34:46,920 --> 02:34:50,400 Speaker 3: too expensive. And they looked into her student loans to 2981 02:34:50,480 --> 02:34:53,360 Speaker 3: see if she can get some money to help, you know, 2982 02:34:54,040 --> 02:34:56,119 Speaker 3: over it, right, Like a five hundred from the student loans. 2983 02:34:56,760 --> 02:34:58,960 Speaker 3: The plane tickets went from thirteen hundred to twenty seven 2984 02:34:59,040 --> 02:35:02,520 Speaker 3: hundred dollars. And he looked it without telling her explicitly 2985 02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:05,440 Speaker 3: what she told him, not when they were like. 2986 02:35:05,600 --> 02:35:08,520 Speaker 1: Coming to her and was he going to like he 2987 02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:09,760 Speaker 1: was expecting her to pay for that. 2988 02:35:11,400 --> 02:35:13,960 Speaker 3: Now he's getting a job. Now he's saying how he 2989 02:35:14,040 --> 02:35:16,640 Speaker 3: wants her to pay her back. Wow, that's what he's 2990 02:35:16,640 --> 02:35:19,200 Speaker 3: getting to know. Again, I was so messed up. Yeah, 2991 02:35:19,240 --> 02:35:21,720 Speaker 3: so I'll read this last lineback. A day later, I 2992 02:35:21,760 --> 02:35:23,280 Speaker 3: told him I was scheduled for my first shift back, 2993 02:35:23,280 --> 02:35:25,400 Speaker 3: and he responded saying that we should go over a 2994 02:35:25,520 --> 02:35:29,080 Speaker 3: repayment plan. And he was thinking that twenty percent of 2995 02:35:29,640 --> 02:35:32,720 Speaker 3: each of my weekly pay I receive goes to him, 2996 02:35:34,000 --> 02:35:36,600 Speaker 3: so twenty percent God goes straight to him. When he 2997 02:35:36,840 --> 02:35:40,480 Speaker 3: offered to basically he said he was going to pay 2998 02:35:40,560 --> 02:35:43,520 Speaker 3: it completely. Yes, again, I was a bit taken aback 2999 02:35:43,600 --> 02:35:45,720 Speaker 3: since I hadn't even worked my first shift yet and 3000 02:35:45,760 --> 02:35:48,160 Speaker 3: I was planning on using my first pay to buy 3001 02:35:48,440 --> 02:35:51,080 Speaker 3: my medication as I had been off of them for 3002 02:35:51,200 --> 02:35:54,200 Speaker 3: a month. I asked him how much he expected back 3003 02:35:54,320 --> 02:35:57,720 Speaker 3: since I skipped the bachelorette trip and he and he 3004 02:35:57,760 --> 02:36:00,800 Speaker 3: said we agreed on one thousand dollars and he wasn't 3005 02:36:00,840 --> 02:36:04,320 Speaker 3: going to have this discussion again, so I said, okay. 3006 02:36:04,920 --> 02:36:06,720 Speaker 3: It's been two weeks since my first shift, and so 3007 02:36:06,800 --> 02:36:09,560 Speaker 3: he's collected twenty percent for me twice. The last time 3008 02:36:09,600 --> 02:36:12,000 Speaker 3: he collected, he had asked me to make him dinner. 3009 02:36:12,440 --> 02:36:14,959 Speaker 3: He was complaining that he was hungry, and I said okay, 3010 02:36:15,240 --> 02:36:17,560 Speaker 3: So he came over with the ingredients and I made 3011 02:36:17,560 --> 02:36:20,360 Speaker 3: the meal, despite already having made a different meal earlier 3012 02:36:20,400 --> 02:36:23,720 Speaker 3: for my family. That same night, we were intimate. Immediately 3013 02:36:23,760 --> 02:36:26,600 Speaker 3: after we finished is when he decided to ask me 3014 02:36:27,000 --> 02:36:36,440 Speaker 3: for the cash. Bro timing. This guy, Hi sucks. This 3015 02:36:36,600 --> 02:36:39,720 Speaker 3: guy sucks. I don't know if I'm being crazy here, 3016 02:36:39,800 --> 02:36:41,840 Speaker 3: but it just felt so degrading. And he texted me 3017 02:36:41,920 --> 02:36:43,520 Speaker 3: when he got home that night saying, I know it 3018 02:36:43,600 --> 02:36:46,440 Speaker 3: sucks having to pay me back, but it'll be good 3019 02:36:46,480 --> 02:36:49,280 Speaker 3: for your word, as in, it'll teach me how to 3020 02:36:49,360 --> 02:36:51,840 Speaker 3: keep my word. We ended up having a fight about it, 3021 02:36:51,879 --> 02:36:54,360 Speaker 3: where he basically threw in my face the fact that 3022 02:36:54,440 --> 02:36:56,959 Speaker 3: if he were in my shoes, he would either never 3023 02:36:57,240 --> 02:36:59,320 Speaker 3: let someone pay for him to go on a trip 3024 02:36:59,720 --> 02:37:01,680 Speaker 3: or he would offer to pay them back. And fall, Bro, 3025 02:37:01,840 --> 02:37:05,240 Speaker 3: you like you insisted you pushed her so hard to 3026 02:37:05,320 --> 02:37:07,920 Speaker 3: do this. I guess that's what I guess that's what 3027 02:37:08,040 --> 02:37:10,600 Speaker 3: he's been expecting of me, especially with the comments he's 3028 02:37:10,640 --> 02:37:13,120 Speaker 3: made towards me lately. It seems like he resents me 3029 02:37:13,240 --> 02:37:15,720 Speaker 3: a lot. I've tried to be patient and agreeable, but 3030 02:37:15,800 --> 02:37:17,760 Speaker 3: it seems like I can't even really say how I 3031 02:37:17,840 --> 02:37:20,440 Speaker 3: feel since money is involved. I spoke to my sister 3032 02:37:20,480 --> 02:37:22,720 Speaker 3: about this recently, and she was shocked to hear all 3033 02:37:22,800 --> 02:37:25,000 Speaker 3: of this and pointed out how alarming it was. And 3034 02:37:25,160 --> 02:37:27,440 Speaker 3: now I don't know what to think or how to feel. 3035 02:37:28,120 --> 02:37:30,800 Speaker 3: Quick atag to close this out. Okay, guys, yes, I 3036 02:37:30,879 --> 02:37:32,760 Speaker 3: see all of you are pointing out my first comment 3037 02:37:32,800 --> 02:37:34,800 Speaker 3: in this s read where I said I don't want 3038 02:37:34,840 --> 02:37:37,560 Speaker 3: to break up. Please allow me to clarify. I replied 3039 02:37:37,600 --> 02:37:39,840 Speaker 3: to the first comment on this post, and since I 3040 02:37:39,959 --> 02:37:42,320 Speaker 3: was nervous from Uh, I was still nervous from posting. 3041 02:37:42,520 --> 02:37:44,360 Speaker 3: I got a little scared that maybe I gave off 3042 02:37:44,360 --> 02:37:46,480 Speaker 3: the impression that I want to leave him to avoid 3043 02:37:46,560 --> 02:37:49,840 Speaker 3: paying him back. To be clear, I do realize now 3044 02:37:50,040 --> 02:37:52,920 Speaker 3: that would be perfectly fine to do at this point. Again, 3045 02:37:53,120 --> 02:37:55,800 Speaker 3: I am not against ending the relationship. I really don't 3046 02:37:55,840 --> 02:37:57,800 Speaker 3: know what else to say. 3047 02:37:59,440 --> 02:38:04,360 Speaker 1: And end it, and to end it just that is 3048 02:38:04,440 --> 02:38:05,800 Speaker 1: a terrible relationship. 3049 02:38:06,280 --> 02:38:10,000 Speaker 3: End it. He is awful. He's so manipulative. It is 3050 02:38:10,280 --> 02:38:13,039 Speaker 3: super clear to answer the question, what are deal breakers 3051 02:38:13,080 --> 02:38:16,680 Speaker 3: in a relationship when they basically coerce you into, like 3052 02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:20,520 Speaker 3: push you into doing something and then punish you for that. Yeah, 3053 02:38:20,560 --> 02:38:22,680 Speaker 3: he literally was like, let me pay, let me pay. 3054 02:38:22,840 --> 02:38:25,040 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, why are you such a financial burden? 3055 02:38:26,160 --> 02:38:29,560 Speaker 3: He kept pushing her into into situations where he would 3056 02:38:29,560 --> 02:38:31,560 Speaker 3: be the one paying, kept punishing her for it. 3057 02:38:32,480 --> 02:38:34,720 Speaker 1: It just just it's kind of like the idea, if 3058 02:38:34,760 --> 02:38:36,880 Speaker 1: you give someone a gift, you can't ask for it back, 3059 02:38:37,240 --> 02:38:40,720 Speaker 1: and that's eli And uh, yeah, I think I think 3060 02:38:40,800 --> 02:38:43,400 Speaker 1: this is is is terrible. 3061 02:38:43,520 --> 02:38:47,720 Speaker 3: She needs to leave immediately. But you know who so 3062 02:38:47,920 --> 02:38:52,600 Speaker 3: beautifully gave our amazing community a gift? Whoop him share 3063 02:38:52,600 --> 02:38:55,960 Speaker 3: a Yuki with twenty more gifted memberships. You you you 3064 02:38:56,400 --> 02:38:58,760 Speaker 3: share a yu Ya Yuki back in the chat again. 3065 02:38:58,920 --> 02:39:01,680 Speaker 3: Thanks fifty vel for the twenty bucks super chat. Thanks 3066 02:39:02,080 --> 02:39:04,400 Speaker 3: Sabine Williams for the five oh one. I don't trust 3067 02:39:04,440 --> 02:39:07,440 Speaker 3: doctor Phil. Neither do we MLK celebrating formans of membership. 3068 02:39:07,480 --> 02:39:11,160 Speaker 3: Lets go kimberly fine. Okay, okay, feet wait was it? 3069 02:39:11,400 --> 02:39:11,520 Speaker 4: Uh? 3070 02:39:12,000 --> 02:39:15,480 Speaker 3: Okay? Fiends need more chaos for our ear holes. Let's go, guys. 3071 02:39:15,560 --> 02:39:19,360 Speaker 3: We figured out the gifting the ten memberships, so we 3072 02:39:19,560 --> 02:39:23,440 Speaker 3: did it. Congrats to everyone who got those and the 3073 02:39:23,560 --> 02:39:25,560 Speaker 3: tom Let thanks to five to five buck tip. I 3074 02:39:25,640 --> 02:39:29,000 Speaker 3: have a chronic illness that has had that has me 3075 02:39:29,200 --> 02:39:31,800 Speaker 3: unable to work. I live on a fixed income via 3076 02:39:31,879 --> 02:39:35,200 Speaker 3: Social Security disability. Anyone who's close to me, friends and 3077 02:39:35,280 --> 02:39:38,200 Speaker 3: partners understand I have limited resources. OPI needs to run. 3078 02:39:38,680 --> 02:39:39,680 Speaker 3: This man doesn't love her. 3079 02:39:40,000 --> 02:39:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed and shout out tom Let for gifting on 3080 02:39:43,840 --> 02:39:46,280 Speaker 1: the tiplink the tip point love this, Yes, we love 3081 02:39:46,320 --> 02:39:48,240 Speaker 1: the tip, We love to see you, but yeah, I 3082 02:39:48,320 --> 02:39:52,200 Speaker 1: feel like this. The boyfriend does not understand what this 3083 02:39:52,520 --> 02:39:57,480 Speaker 1: person needs and is actively doing things that endanger per Basically, yes, 3084 02:39:59,080 --> 02:40:02,920 Speaker 1: but that I think is where this stream ends. That's 3085 02:40:02,959 --> 02:40:03,520 Speaker 1: all she wrote. 3086 02:40:03,600 --> 02:40:04,560 Speaker 3: That's all she wrote. 3087 02:40:05,800 --> 02:40:08,720 Speaker 1: So if you love us, make sure to subscribe. 3088 02:40:08,800 --> 02:40:11,199 Speaker 3: We love you and see a world