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Speaker 1: Looks like it's going to be another score of a day.

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Speaker 1: The sun is still high in the sky. That means

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Speaker 2: Good morning, sweet world. Then welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 2: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, June fifth, twenty

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Speaker 2: Is, and here we are in our green shirts. Happy

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Speaker 2: Saint Patrick's Day to everyone. Wow with that cold open

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows that no Tassie. Of course here in the factory.

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Speaker 2: He's headed back from Denver. Or wait, maybe he's already back.

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Speaker 2: This guy took the Red Eye I think last night.

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Speaker 2: Did he do we know that he flew back or

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Speaker 3: Started on the top of the mountain and just cruised

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Speaker 2: Possible anyway, tasks will be back here tomorrow with me.

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Speaker 2: T K heads out to Miami later today to cover

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Speaker 2: All right? We got a bunch of NBA news later

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Speaker 2: in this show. Frank Vogel is going to be the

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Speaker 2: Sun's head coach, but the Miami Heat have tied the

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals at one game apiece with a thrilling one

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Speaker 2: to eleven one O eight victory in Game two against

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Speaker 2: the Nuggets last night, Denver led for most of the game,

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Speaker 2: They were in control after three quarters, and then the

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Speaker 2: Heat win that fourth quarter thirty six to twenty five,

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Speaker 2: complete the comeback tie the series. Game three goes Wednesday night.

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Speaker 2: You'll be there in attendance, but amia there it is

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Speaker 2: one ding. What do you think of this Heat victory?

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Speaker 2: Always your big takeaway from this.

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Speaker 3: One, Well, somebody called the other lawyer because we got

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Speaker 3: all sales. A series keats. You talk about a game

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Speaker 3: of runs, this was kind of the ultimate game of runs.

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Speaker 3: Heat came out of the gates blazing hot, hitting a

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Speaker 3: whole bunch of threes. Max Struce figured out how to

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Speaker 3: flip his wrist once again. Oh for ten from the

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Speaker 3: field over nine from three in game one, not the

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Speaker 3: case in Game two. He caught fire, made four threes

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Speaker 3: on the night, fourteen points, got off to a huge lead.

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Speaker 3: Then the Nuggets hit back right away into the second quarter.

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Speaker 3: The compost crew really flipped the game on their heads.

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Speaker 3: I thought, uh, they were up fifty to thirty five

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Speaker 3: I think at one point, and kind of felt like

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Speaker 3: the Tide had turned completely in Denver's favor, like they

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Speaker 3: withstand the run from Miami to start the game, didn't

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Speaker 3: was looking good for Denver. But then in the third quarter,

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Speaker 3: great start for Miami again. Then Yokic catches fire. Then

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Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter, just nobody could miss. That was incredible.

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Speaker 3: Duncan Robinson checks in eight straight points, finishes with ten

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Speaker 3: and a miss from Jamal Murray. This was an awesome game,

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Speaker 3: really fun to watch. It never felt like either team

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Speaker 2: Oh, there was a lot of people on playback calling

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Speaker 2: this game when they went up fifteen. Definitely compost crew

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Speaker 2: there was a lot of people saying game over series

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Speaker 3: Surprise and surprise.

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Speaker 2: That's what Miami wants to hear, because whenever you think

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Speaker 2: they got right back into Man.

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Speaker 3: There was so much stuff that happened in this game,

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Speaker 3: right at the beginning. Kevin Love, he's back, baby, didn't

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Speaker 3: guy who's at the end of his career, a buyout

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Speaker 3: guy got benched again. The Celtics, like Kevin Love, has

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Speaker 3: not been great as the Browns have gone on in

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Speaker 3: guarding Aaron Gordon, and for some reason, the Nuggets just

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Speaker 3: didn't attack Kevin Love. Yep. I think Aaron Gordon could

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Speaker 3: which I thought was huge. Taking Jamal Murray out of

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Speaker 3: this one. Jamal finished with I think eighteen points. Tennis

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Speaker 3: sists hit some big threes late exactly. Yeah, he hit

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Speaker 3: They were daring him to take the shots. That little

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: They were never able to look like the Nuggets we

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Speaker 3: three rounds of the playoffs. Great stuff by Spoe and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a long time since they'd even just

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Speaker 2: so just Love being out there. Obviously helped out defensively.

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Speaker 2: I thought he played a great defensive game for Kevin

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Speaker 2: He shot two and nine, so you're like, Okay, he

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Speaker 2: didn't do a whole lot there, but a couple threes,

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Speaker 2: obviously was contributing. Maybe it passes, maybe a couple he passes.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he was Spoe was decision. Was helped out a

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Speaker 2: little bit by Caleb Martin being sick. Yeah as well.

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Speaker 2: Spoe was already thinking about it. Oh, we need more

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Speaker 2: it now. It's like my decision is made for me.

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Speaker 2: It worked. And then, like you said, we talked about

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Speaker 2: and we'll get into the whole, like make Yo Kitcha score,

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Speaker 2: what he wants to do. But it was the Jimmy

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Speaker 2: said it along Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Junior to

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Speaker 2: Jokic scoring forty to fifty and you can beat this

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Speaker 2: fifteen shots for Jamal Murray. That's not a ton of attempts.

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Speaker 2: All things considered three for eight from three. Like you said,

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Speaker 3: You'll live with that. The size was definitely bothering Jamal Murray.

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Speaker 3: I think the physicality that Butler brings as well, and

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Speaker 3: then the fact that every time they would run a

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Speaker 3: Heat decided we're taking away Jamal Murray first and foremost.

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Speaker 3: And I think it was a great call by Spoff.

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Speaker 2: For the forty fourth time this season the Heat won

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Speaker 2: live and die for these situations. They love it. I

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Speaker 2: do think like overall, the Nuggets played a very undisciplined game, yes,

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Speaker 2: and still had a chance to tie it with their

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Speaker 3: You said forty five wins. I thought it was forty four,

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Speaker 3: but forty four. They have like fifty seven wins total

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Speaker 2: It's nice. I think they may have set the all

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Speaker 2: victories by five or less. But yeah, the Nuggets undisciplined

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Speaker 2: number of ways I thought overly aggressive on closeouts. They

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Speaker 2: may want to practice that. They may want to go

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Speaker 2: back to fundamentals how to close out on a three

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Speaker 2: do not well, yeah, you don't foul Contavis Caldwell Pope twice, yep,

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Speaker 2: doing that. But you also and Jamal Murray does this

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Speaker 2: a lot, just screams out there and jumps in the

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So you can just take a dribble to the side

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Speaker 2: or obviously then you're playing five on four because the

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Speaker 2: of taught in high school a little bit better. So

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Speaker 2: there was that they were getting picked apart, especially with

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Speaker 2: Lowry and Bam in the pick and roll in that

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter. There was the one where Bam hit a jumper.

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Speaker 2: There was another where when Bam kicked it out to

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Speaker 2: there was the do that Bams were down where Michael

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Duncan Robinson did take over that fourth quarter. Hit

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Speaker 2: And that was sometimes when you know Yokic wasn't out

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Speaker 3: That's pretty impressive efficient wise, but still any game this season.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the Bam Lowry pick and roll. Bam is

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and he was even stepping up after the game

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Speaker 3: Hey gotch Ramona Shelbury, ESPN.

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Speaker 5: This is probably oversimplifying things, but sometimes when teams play

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Speaker 3: You only had four assistant.

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Speaker 5: To focus on what we do. You know, we try

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Speaker 3: the MVP get open to shoot shots. That's not what

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00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 3: they're doing, but they are playing in a way that

433
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,400
Speaker 3: takes other things away from Denver, which leaves more scoring

434
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,440
Speaker 3: opportunities for Jokic. So it's kind of like hand in hand,

435
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,880
Speaker 3: I do think. But clearly Yokic scored forty one points,

436
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 3: he scored a lot last night, and they lost, and

437
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,440
Speaker 3: that they usually.

438
00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,639
Speaker 2: Lose exactly right, So how could that not be the

439
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 2: better game plan? Now you can say, like Spoe saying,

440
00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,600
Speaker 2: it's not our game plan because you can't game plan

441
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 2: against a two time MVP like he's gonna do what

442
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,479
Speaker 2: he wants. But you pointed it out, well, you can

443
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,120
Speaker 2: try and take away the other guys, thus leaving him

444
00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:17,479
Speaker 2: more open, thus making him consider shooting more. And it

445
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 2: feels like and it's small sample size, I get it.

446
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,240
Speaker 2: It's proven to be your best chance to beat this team.

447
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,200
Speaker 2: They're now zero to three when he scores forty or

448
00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 2: more points in the playoffs, there's that one against the Walls,

449
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,960
Speaker 2: where he had forty three. They storm back, they lose

450
00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,359
Speaker 2: in overtime. He has fifty three points on twenty for

451
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: thirty shooting. That's the other thing. Forget the scoring, keep

452
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,640
Speaker 2: your eye on the shot attempts. That's the real thing

453
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:40,600
Speaker 2: to me. But that was a loss to the Suns,

454
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,560
Speaker 2: and then this one forty one in defeat with only

455
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 2: the four assists. They were three and seven in the

456
00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,919
Speaker 2: regular season when Yolkic had six or fewer assists. So

457
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:53,159
Speaker 2: that's key as well. Now you said it trade the

458
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:55,520
Speaker 2: low number of cysts, It turns out you need guys

459
00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,520
Speaker 2: to hit shots to get the cysts. So it's not

460
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 2: like he suddenly like stops passing the ball. It's the

461
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,760
Speaker 2: guys were struggling. But maybe that is the other defenders

462
00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 2: staying a little closer to those guys, you know, obviously

463
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: trying to take them away and blitz Jamal Murray like

464
00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 2: we talked about off the top. So yeah, I don't

465
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 2: get like people were sort of dunking on Ramona Shelbourne

466
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: for sposed response to her, even though by the way,

467
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 2: this had come up a couple other times when they

468
00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: were talking to the Nuggets coaching staff and players, this

469
00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 2: idea of like Yokic as a scorer versus Yokic passer.

470
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 2: But you know, because people hear the untrained eye, they

471
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,440
Speaker 2: think it's like code for casual. You know, you don't

472
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 2: know shit, and nobody knows as much as Spoe. Nobody's

473
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 2: saying that. But I also think he's sandbagging everybody because

474
00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:40,200
Speaker 2: he wants to continue to like build up Yokic, like

475
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: there's you know, no bulletin board material. And I think

476
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 2: he knows that this is our best chance to win.

477
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: Make this guy shoot twenty five to thirty times. It

478
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,840
Speaker 2: just takes the team out of rhythm a little bit more.

479
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: That's not how they play right, right, So anyway, I

480
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 2: thought it was a great question. I'm glad she asked it.

481
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 2: I love SPO's response. It's old.

482
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 3: He never gives away anything in a press conference. He's

483
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: like when you ask him about possible adjustments for the

484
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 3: next game, he's like, it all comes down to heart, Yeah,

485
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: which you gotta play harder, You're gonna change some things up.

486
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 3: We saw it, buddy. He wouldn't even say that. Kevin

487
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,639
Speaker 3: Love was starting no yes, no in the press pregamers

488
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 3: and hell Tyler Hero could be back for Game three.

489
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,239
Speaker 2: Tass was there in Denver. He jumped on playback at

490
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: halftime last night. He's like I thought he was playing

491
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 2: in games one and two the way he looked. You know,

492
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,439
Speaker 2: you see him in warm ups and stuff like that,

493
00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: and he appears healthy there with the hand, So maybe

494
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 2: we see him in game three. That's a whole debating

495
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 2: of itself. Now, you do you bring him back? Do

496
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 2: you do you mess with what's working here? It feels

497
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 2: like you could use some obviously shooting, especially from the

498
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: mid range area.

499
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 3: The bench was bad. I mean, the bench was probably

500
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 3: not great for the heat. Everybody was a minus. The

501
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 3: Duncan Robinson obviously turned it on in the fourth quarter

502
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 3: and really flipped the game. Duncan Robinson basically playing like

503
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 3: Tyler Hero, hitting threes, putting the ball on the floor,

504
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,160
Speaker 3: scoring at the hoop, assisting even I think you would

505
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 3: rather just have more players who can play, so you

506
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: don't have to start Tyler Hero and play him forty minutes.

507
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 3: So you can start him and give him like a

508
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: five minute run in the first half of Game three.

509
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,360
Speaker 3: See how it goes. See if he earns another five

510
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 3: minutes in the second half and go from there.

511
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 2: I think that's right, and I think that's what's gonna happen. Actually,

512
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm if I'm a guessing man for Game three on

513
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,959
Speaker 2: Wednesday Night in mar saying that's the last bucket hat

514
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: we've seen. Yeah, might just be buckets from here on out.

515
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 3: For trading bucket hats for buckets.

516
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 2: Think Mark Jackson will say that on the call. He

517
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 2: could say that. He could say if he catches fire

518
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 2: plays trading buckets, actually trading in a bucket hat for buckets. Yeah,

519
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: I could definitely see what I'm saying that. What else

520
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: you got from this game or this series?

521
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:39,640
Speaker 5: Uh?

522
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: There was a lot of talk about should the Nuggets

523
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 3: have taken a timeout on their last play. They're down

524
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 3: by three, they get the rebound with eleven yeah, seconds

525
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,640
Speaker 3: left or something like that. Lots of time, Yeah, lots

526
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 3: of time. They get the ball up. Not much as happening.

527
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 3: Murray kind of backs up a little bit. Maybe that's

528
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: when you take a time out. But for me, I

529
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 3: don't think you're gear and teed to get a better shot.

530
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 2: They ran pick and roll with k.

531
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 3: You're gonna get it those two guys. You're gonna try

532
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: and get a three. He just made two of them

533
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 3: in the last three minutes twenty six feet Like it's far,

534
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: but it's twenty twenty three. Man, people make shots from

535
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 3: that far.

536
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: He didn't miss it by mall all the time.

537
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: And also, if you call a time out, you're giving

538
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 3: Spoe and the heat a chance to completely set up

539
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: and don't think, hey, should we foul here? Should we

540
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,959
Speaker 3: talk it through and figure out what we're gonna do.

541
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 3: So I think I was fine with the way that

542
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: went down. They got a good look.

543
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 2: They got a good look. I mean, if anything, Jamal

544
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: sort of bobbled the ball Jimmy, like I couldn't tell

545
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: did Jimmy actually make contact with the ball or was

546
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: that just a sloppy handle there from Jamal? But it's

547
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 2: sort of like he still got to his spot. You know,

548
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 2: maybe it was a little deeper than he would have liked,

549
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: but yeah, still got a shot off. Jimmy couldn't play

550
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: it too too tight because he didn't want to foul,

551
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: which we had seen a couple of times in this

552
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: game on the three point shot. But yeah, I had

553
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,800
Speaker 2: no real issue with it, mainly because they got what

554
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 2: I think they would have exactly wanted after a time out.

555
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 2: They're too many. They're two superstars, you know, running the play.

556
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 2: I guess you could argue like you'd like to see

557
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: Yoki touch it really sure, okay, okay, but you're gonna

558
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 2: need a three anyway, and Jamal Murray is gonna be

559
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: a guy you're trusting. After he banged home two like

560
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: big ones. How about that rebound that Yo Kic grabbed

561
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: the offensive board and then they get right Jamal perfect

562
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 2: in the shooting spot and he banged that one home.

563
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 2: That was huge. So yeah, no real issues with it.

564
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was the same. What else Jimmy Butler. We

565
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 3: haven't really talked much about Jimmy Butler. Twenty one points

566
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,920
Speaker 3: seven of nineteen shooting doesn't seem to have great touch

567
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 3: right now, but he got to the line five times,

568
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 3: which was good, and nine assists I thought was huge. Yeah,

569
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 3: he was playing driving kick game. It seemed more so

570
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 3: to me than necessarily trying to score. Maybe in the

571
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 3: fourth quarter he realized I got to make some plays

572
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: here get to the actual rim. He had eight in

573
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,119
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. But I think it's pretty impressive for

574
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 3: the Heat to win a game on the road with

575
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 3: Jimmy having an average game, like a a B kind

576
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 3: of game.

577
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: Really yeah, I agree with that. I think they're hoping,

578
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,719
Speaker 2: especially now with love back in starting to line up.

579
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 2: Like you said, putting Jimmy on Jamal Murray, it's like, hey, man,

580
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: put all your focus and your energy for like three

581
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: quarters at least into stopping him trying to contain Kitchener's

582
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 2: finest and then bring us home at the end.

583
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 3: Put your head down.

584
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: And that's what he did, is he hit that corner

585
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 2: three was huge. Oh yeah, that was big. It was

586
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 2: like five or six minutes to go in the game.

587
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 2: And then he definitely hit a jumper. There was the

588
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 2: and one that I talked about out of the BAM

589
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 2: and lowry pick and roll action and then he hit

590
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: a jumper where Yokic had you know, dropped back and

591
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 2: he stepped into it. He wasn't like fading at all.

592
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,120
Speaker 2: You did that classic Jubi thing where he was popped

593
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 2: straight up and he banged that one home. So he

594
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: came through in the end. But you're right, not an

595
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 2: elite game, like does he have another forty point game

596
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: in him?

597
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: Though?

598
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: I you know, you see him hobbled.

599
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 3: Just fatigue in the first round, that's for sure.

600
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, but you got contributions from everybody else.

601
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 3: Four threes from Vincent, four from Strue, two from Love,

602
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 3: two from Lowry, Caleb Martin hit a huge one one

603
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 3: he looking like the Celtics Caleb Martin for that one

604
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 3: play only, and then Duncan Robinson obviously was huge with

605
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 3: two on the road. That's big time.

606
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. The Heat shot seventeen for thirty five, basically forty

607
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 2: nine percent from deep. It's gonna really help your chances

608
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 2: to win one of these games. That's a big reason why.

609
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to put words in your mouth,

610
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: but like I didn't think this was gonna be a

611
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 2: sweep because of the way that Heat had been shooting

612
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: the three point or all postseason. It's like, that's in

613
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: theory gonna be a game or two if not more

614
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: of your Heat fan and believe you got a chance now.

615
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was nice to see Strews after that

616
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: brutal Game one, got rid of that in a hurry

617
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: because he banged home whatever it was like his first

618
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: three or four there in the first quarter of Game two,

619
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: and that was that was big. What else, what do

620
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: you think about the anthem, did you catch the saxophone animal?

621
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,679
Speaker 3: I didn't hear the anthm oh.

622
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: Per Sacks, Pure Sacks, Pure Sacks was all right.

623
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 3: There was just one man on the saxophone.

624
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,919
Speaker 2: One man, just one man in sunglasses on a sax sunglasses.

625
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: I think he was okay, correct me if I'm wrong, Blues.

626
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: I guess, uh no, Ken Jung, no win.

627
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 3: They did have more Nuggets legends there though. Saw Alex

628
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,479
Speaker 3: English was in the crowd. That was the most notable name.

629
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 3: I think, so yeah, yeah, Lafondo Ellis, But uh no,

630
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,640
Speaker 3: Denver Ken Ken Nuggets had done for too bad man.

631
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 3: That was your chance, had a chance to be the

632
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 3: Denver Nuggets celebrity fan.

633
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: So if the story was true that Ken Jung paid

634
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 2: for his own ticket to sit court sight in Game one,

635
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: you think the Nuggets maybe should have poonied up and said,

636
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 2: come on back, man, come on, Ken, we got this

637
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: one's on us. I think, so, yeah, yeah, I agree

638
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: with you. I don't want to mess with the vibes.

639
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: What did you think about the well, A lot of

640
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: people think the missed call on the goaltend there pretty

641
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 2: late in this game, where I guess it was Jamal

642
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 2: with the floater and float dam went up and got

643
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 2: credit for the block, and you're right, replay showed that

644
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: that was probably coming down.

645
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: I thought that was a goaltend. Yeah, I definitely thought

646
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler stepp out of bounds on a three pointer.

647
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: I think the Nuggets probably have a beef with the officiating,

648
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: if I'm being quite honest. There was that sequence I

649
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 3: think in the third quarter where there was like three

650
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 3: back to back to back plays where they were all

651
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 3: out of bound and they were all off Jokic and

652
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: every single one he came up like, well this is

653
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 3: going on? Yeah, yeah, maybe one of them should have

654
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: been Nuggets ball. But I think they got him mostly right.

655
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 3: But man, you could tell the officiating I thought was

656
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: a little bit and the Nuggets had more so than

657
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: it has been at any point in the playoffs so far,

658
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 3: and I actually kind of think they did a bad job,

659
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 3: but I do. I don't know.

660
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: It was a stretch of this game where both teams

661
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: were whinding totally, so that's when you know the officiating's

662
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: not all that great. It was maybe it was the

663
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 2: third quarter. It was at some point like both teams

664
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 2: it felt like every play were complaining about the call

665
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: about who it was out on or whether it was

666
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: a foul or not, and it was coming from all directions.

667
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was not a great game for who

668
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: was it, Zarba Kirkland and it gu three? I don't know.

669
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: It might have been a guth three. Yeah, not the

670
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 2: greatest work. But that was very choppy second half. I

671
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: thought that that goaltending or missed goaltending. I mean it

672
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: ended up being pretty big when you get to the

673
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: final score. That's two points right there that should have

674
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 2: counted for Denver. But yeah, they missed that one though apparently.

675
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: I guess Var coming oh var baby for things like

676
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 2: this threes and twos, like all this tracking, all this camera, Yeah,

677
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: I know, how will it do? I don't know, like

678
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: apex type thing coming down?

679
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 3: Well, I thought that Murray would just get the call

680
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: because he shot it so high.

681
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that was a lot of float on that floater.

682
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 3: Yep, kudos to BAM for actually being able to have

683
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 3: the hops to get out to block it. But when

684
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: you see a shot shot that high, you gotta assume

685
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: it's coming down because nobody has a forty million foot

686
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 3: vertical no.

687
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 2: And then like generally they'll call it a goaltend. They

688
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 2: know the opposite. They sort of almost cover their asses

689
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: in a bit of the way, like they say, oh,

690
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: that's goalten. Probably even it's like very difficult to call

691
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 2: in real time. But yeah, they didn't. Then they left

692
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: game continue there. My only other note had a good

693
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: old laugh with Kevin Love hugging Gabe Vincent. Sorry, man,

694
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 2: a full on, just great hug after he missed him

695
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: in the corner. Didn't even look to my left. You

696
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: were wide open, Gabe. You've been awesome, gave Vincent.

697
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: He's balling.

698
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: He's playing so incredibly well during this entire postseason. Uh,

699
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: and you know, at times we like pointed out, but

700
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 2: for the most part, thing it goes over loook because

701
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: he's just been so consistent.

702
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, he led the heat and scoring. I just now

703
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: came up. Yeah he's three points.

704
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: And any way, I Love missed him. He could have

705
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 2: had another three there. He probably would have banged that

706
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: one home the way he's shooting.

707
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't. Mark wasn't Mark Jackson, like, I don't

708
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 3: know if should be hugging just from missing a guy

709
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 3: in the court.

710
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: He thought that was much well.

711
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: Michael Porter Junior has got a lot of hugs to give.

712
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: He always won to Jamal Murray. Certainly Jamal Murray was

713
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: wide open in the right quarner. Yeah, on one of

714
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: these Michael Porter Junior attempts. So I don't know. You know,

715
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 3: there's once that study of the team that high fives

716
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 3: the most is the most connected and the best team.

717
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: That's why Steve Nash won two MP because he was

718
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 3: the best high fiber in the league. I wonder if

719
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 3: there's similar effects for hugging. You know, that's next. The

720
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: team the hugs the most wins the most.

721
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: That was a nice hug. Any other random notes from man?

722
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, I think we nailed.

723
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: Okay, here's my final question and we have a couple

724
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: of days to talk about this more. Like I said,

725
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: you're headed to Miami. He task be backs well his thoughts,

726
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 2: But like, has your opinion about this series changed at all?

727
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: I assume it hasn't because you had nuggets and six

728
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: just like me, and if that was your prediction, the

729
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 2: heat beating the Nuggets in Denver is probably part of

730
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: that equation. But yeah, what do you think is are

731
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: the heat and control? Are he gonna win this again?

732
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 2: What does TK think or are you not overreacting?

733
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 3: I'm not overreacting. I'm still sticking with the Nuggets. I

734
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 3: still have Nuggets and six certainly still in place, so

735
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 3: why change it. But you know, it's kind of funny

736
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 3: when you look at this. Either team could be like,

737
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: we should be up to zero in the season. Yes, right,

738
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: Like Miami could have won Game one. It was definitely

739
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 3: a furious comeback in the fourth quarter to make it

740
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 3: look respectable. But if they get better shooting in the

741
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: first half, if they get better performances from Struce, Robinson

742
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 3: and Vincent like they did in Game two, they could

743
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 3: have easily stolen Game one, and then clearly Game two

744
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 3: was there for winning for Denver as well. So I

745
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: think both teams are probably just like, this is what

746
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 3: we expected. Miami ain't gonna fall over, you know. Yeah,

747
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 3: for as few answers as they have for Yokic, which

748
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: it's true, nobody has a real land for him, they're

749
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: going to figure out everything else and go from there.

750
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 3: So coming back to too, I can see that being

751
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 3: pretty realistic.

752
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very exciting. I'm glad we have a one

753
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: to one series that makes it always a little more entertaining,

754
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 2: because you know, if the Denver Nuggets had pulled that off.

755
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 2: Let's say Murray hits that three, they go into overtime,

756
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 2: they win it, I'd be telling you Heaton the mood, Yeah,

757
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: the mood. I think there'd be a lot more people,

758
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: even say the Nuggets in four. But now it's very

759
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: very interesting here. So Game three Wednesday night, we'll be

760
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,239
Speaker 2: back on playback. That's eight thirty pm Eastern start, and

761
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: we'll be looking for Trey Kirby in attendance. You'll have

762
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: to hopefully get on. Hopefully the WiFi is good in

763
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: the Heat arena. You can jump on playback during halftime,

764
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: give us a report.

765
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 3: Certainly, I don't know what Cassea is, yeah, SA Center.

766
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 3: But if it's Wi Fi, I hope it's good. Okay, good.

767
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: If it's Wi Fi, their WiFi should be good.

768
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: We'll find out. All right, Let's take our first break,

769
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: and when we come back, a whole bunch of NBA news.

770
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere, all right, talked about Game two the

771
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: NBA Finals. Let's talk about some other NBA news. The

772
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 2: Phoenix are finalizing a five year, about thirty one million

773
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: dollar deal with Frank Vogel to hire him as their

774
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 2: new head coach. Vogel emerged from a finalist group that

775
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: included former seventy six Ers coach Doc Rivers, new seventy

776
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 2: six Ers coach Nick Nurse, King's assistant Jordi Fernandez, and

777
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: Sons assistant Kevin Young. Bill Simmons, you lied to me.

778
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 2: You said it was going to be Kevin, but he

779
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 2: is now the top paid assistant with the Suns. But

780
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: Vogel is the head coach. He's got that twenty twenty

781
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: NBA championship with the Lakers and does have a pretty

782
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: good history of constructing really good defenses. Yes, which maybe

783
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 2: what the Sons are going to be focusing on here,

784
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 2: along with their offensive firepower in Booker and KD. What

785
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 2: do you think?

786
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,839
Speaker 3: I feel like it has been so long since Frank

787
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 3: Vogel has been a coach, and he actually coached last season,

788
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 3: like his last season was the twenty twenty two season. Skates, Holy,

789
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 3: that's unbelievable to me. Actually, it felt like he'd been

790
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: out of the game for five years. I think they

791
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 3: bring it back very Vogel. Yeah, does no, He's a

792
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: pretty recent coach. He wanted a title in twenty twenty.

793
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: Like you said, yeah, I think Vogel is a good coach. Maybe,

794
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: like not the most inspiring name if you're looking at

795
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 3: the variety of names that were available at the start

796
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 3: of coaching carousel season. But like you said, he's a

797
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 3: great defensive coach. He's gotten some pretty solid performances out

798
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 3: of centers, which I think is big. Roy Haybert became

799
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 3: a star in the NBA under Frank Vogel for that

800
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: brief period of time. The championship team that LA had

801
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: in the twenty twenty season based a lot around huge

802
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 3: big guys Anthony Davis obviously, but Dwight Howard was there,

803
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 3: JaVale McGee was there, and they were a great defensive team. Yeah,

804
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: so you gotta think maybe this is a positive impact

805
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: for DeAndre Ayton. At the very least, there's no beef

806
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 3: now between DeAndre Ayton and his head coach. Starting fresh

807
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 3: YEP with Frank Vogel. Let's see what he does, because

808
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: I think he's a pretty good coach. I think his

809
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 3: teams have been pretty solid all things considered. I don't

810
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 3: really got any other Frank talk.

811
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Vogel's specialty is no doubt defense.

812
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 3: Yep.

813
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 2: During his ten seasons as a head coach, his defenses

814
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: have ranked in the top ten seven times, including three

815
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: seasons at number one. That twice happened with Indiana and

816
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: then once with LA And he definitely has experience because

817
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 2: of the teams he coached of building around superstar wings,

818
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: which is really what the Suns have in you know,

819
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: Katie and Booker. He did it with Paul George, did

820
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: it with Lebron, Sure, so he should be comfortable with

821
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: those type of superstars at those positions. And yeah, we'll

822
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 2: go from there. And like I said, Kevin Young is

823
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: staying with this team too. He's reportedly going to be

824
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: getting more than two million dollars annually. Not bad sure

825
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: for an assistant coach. And again, you know Simmons and

826
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 2: a lot of people thought he was going to take over.

827
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: But I think that's a part of the equation here

828
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: is that the Sun's players, their superstars especially, really respect

829
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: Kevin Young and don't want to see him go anywhere.

830
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: So now they got they got in theory, if you

831
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 2: look at it this way, Vogels the defensive coach, head coach,

832
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 2: and then Kevin Young, excuse me, can continue to sort

833
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 2: of focus on the offensive things, which is apparently his specialty.

834
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, Frank back in our lives. So Frank, he

835
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,359
Speaker 2: was imparely gone all that long. I'm with you, felt longer.

836
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,399
Speaker 3: It felt longer for sure. He sat out one season

837
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: and now he's back coaching a team that could be

838
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 3: in the finals next year. We shall see. I'm not

839
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 3: surprised though, that they chose a vet over a young

840
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: guy like Kevin Young, especially as a non player. Like

841
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 3: I'm thinking back in history finals contenders who bring in

842
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 3: a first time coach like the Cavs did it with Tylu.

843
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 3: He was a guy that was right there on their bench.

844
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 3: A former player though, so maybe he gets a little

845
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 3: bit more cred for that. But made sense to me

846
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 3: that it was vogel Over and not established guy yet.

847
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,560
Speaker 2: Fair enough, all right, Team USA is roster for the

848
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: upcoming Feeble World Cup starting to take shape. According to

849
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: the Athletic Our guys. There we've got Wolves all star

850
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards, Pacers all star Tyrese Haliburton, Lakers shooting guard

851
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: Austin Reeves, net small forward mckill Bridges, and Bucks forward

852
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 2: Bobby Portis having committed to play for Team US. This

853
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: summer training camp starts August third, and I think this

854
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 2: whole thing gets underway in late August. We'll hopefully be

855
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: doing some coverage here at No Dunks, maybe some playbacks

856
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: as well. Though they were telling me last night these

857
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 2: games are gonna be stupid early.

858
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 3: They're in the Philippines. Yeah, what's the time difference?

859
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 2: I mean drastic, Like, I think we're gonna be like,

860
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: it's gonna be very early breakfast ball if we're doing playbacks.

861
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: All right, so it's a twelve hour difference.

862
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, There you go anyway, breakfast Ball, Edwards, Halliburton, Reeves, Bridges,

863
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: Bobby Thoughts gold medal. Really, I think Canadon is gonna

864
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 2: beat them.

865
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: When his teammate USA ever come up short in the

866
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 3: feeble world. Yeah, twenty nineteen. Yeah, when they finished seventh seventh,

867
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 3: Greg Popovich started the tank job to get Victor Webbin.

868
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 3: Yamam just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying they

869
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 3: lost to France ran to play for Miles Turner. Interesting,

870
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 3: but no, this is cool. I saw I separated the

871
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 3: six players that were announced into surprising and not surprising,

872
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: my unsurprising players, Edwards, Halliburton, Bridges, Brunson their ascendant.

873
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 2: Stars, right, I didn't even say Brunson.

874
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jayalen Brunson also in the mix. But Reeves and

875
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: Portis were a little bit of a surprise to me.

876
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: Reeves obviously has certainly increased his stock around the league,

877
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: especially after the way he played in the playoffs this year.

878
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 3: And then Bobby Portus. I was pretty surprised to get

879
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 3: the call, just because he's a sixth man, you know,

880
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 3: and he's pretty far along into his career. He's a

881
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 3: veteran at this point. Is he over thirty He could be.

882
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 2: It might be close.

883
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: He's got to be close. But yeah, I was surprised

884
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 3: to see that he was a guy. But one thing

885
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: that Team USA always needs is bigs who can stretch

886
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,919
Speaker 3: the floor, and Bobby can definitely do that. He's also

887
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 3: a tough guy, which I think certainly helps. So yeah,

888
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: let's see what they do six in the morning. See

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Speaker 3: on playback.

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00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 2: Bobby Porter's twenty eight Okay, okay, twenty eight and one

891
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen days. Yeah, so not even like all

892
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 2: that close to twenty nine. This is the first World

893
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: Cup Olympic cycle for Grant Hill and Steve kurt in

894
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: their respective positions, Hill taking over for Jerry Colangelo as

895
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 2: the man director. Kerr was an assistant under Pop on

896
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Speaker 2: the past two American teams, but he's the head coach now.

897
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 2: Americans are great when it comes to the Olympics. Yes,

898
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 2: I guess they're the four time defending Olympic gold medalists.

899
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, last couple World Cups have not been great,

900
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Speaker 2: especially that twenty nineteen where they finished seventh. Ye lost

901
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 2: a couple times there and I was that in China,

902
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 2: So yeah, they want to bounce back here. But yeah,

903
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: there's some good names here and I'm with you. The

904
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 2: surprises to me are the Bobby Ann Reeves but I

905
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 2: didn't even see that Jalen Brunton news. Also, like is

906
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 2: Dame playing, Is Kevin Durant playing? Is Tatum playing? Like

907
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 2: the superstars? Like the next level up from a lot

908
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: of these guys. I mean some of these guys are

909
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: all stars, but they're young. But you want to get

910
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: them in the system too and get them the experience

911
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: in the international game. So that makes sense. So yeah,

912
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: good stuff there from Team USA. Nick's All star Julius

913
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Speaker 2: Randall making some news this weekend. He underwent Arthur scoptic

914
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: surgery on his left ankle and he is expected to

915
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: be ready for Knick's training camp in the fall. This

916
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: was the team announcing this. You might recall that he

917
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: played through two pretty significant ankle springs in the in

918
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Speaker 2: the final stages I guess of the next season. But

919
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: in the end they decide let's get that surgery, let's

920
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 2: get it early, and he could, in theory or hopefully

921
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Speaker 2: be back for a training camp.

922
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I guess he was really really hurt, and it

923
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,799
Speaker 3: kind of showed because during the regular season, Julius Randall

924
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 3: played the first seventy seven games, had that first ankle

925
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: sprain that took him out of the last five of

926
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: the regular season, then another in the playoffs, and he

927
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,439
Speaker 3: just was not the same player during the regular season

928
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 3: twenty five points per game forty six percent shooting, in

929
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 3: the playoffs sixteen points per game, thirty seven percent shooting.

930
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Speaker 3: So now when you look back at the Heat beating

931
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: the Knicks, it doesn't feel like an upset at all,

932
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 3: and they were having their second most important player playing

933
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: through a pretty significant injury. I guess. The good news

934
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: is that he should be ready for camp next year

935
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 3: and then hopefully he's able to have no setbacks or

936
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Speaker 3: anything like that or any subsequent ankle injuries.

937
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty crazy when you look at his stats.

938
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: That guy averaged twenty five to ten and four.

939
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Speaker 3: He was awesome in the regular seas really All NBA, right,

940
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 3: really good numbers.

941
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, third team. Yeah, he's a two time All NBA

942
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 2: player now and obviously a two time All Star, and

943
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 2: he won Most Improved a couple of years ago. But yeah,

944
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 2: and he played a lot up until that injury and

945
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: obviously had an effect on him, and Brunson was like,

946
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 2: you know, really banged up to in that in that

947
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: run against the Heat. But it's a good point we

948
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 2: look back now and doesn't feel like an upset at all.

949
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: I mean, he beat the Bucks, he beat the Celtic. Yeah,

950
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 2: he might win the freaking title, so of course they

951
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 2: would beat the Knicks, but I took New York and

952
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: they were favorites in that series. Yeah, so yeah, that

953
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: was that was sort of disappointing how their season ended,

954
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: but makes a little more sense with your your stars

955
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: there being so banged up and yeah, obviously getting surgery

956
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: right away. Really, yeah, shows you he's paying playing through

957
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 2: quite a bit of pain.

958
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 3: Probably absolutely. Randall plays a lot though seventy one games

959
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: in the twenty one season, seventy two and twenty two season,

960
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: and then the first seventy seven this year before setting

961
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 3: out right at the end. So I wonder if maybe

962
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,959
Speaker 3: he'll be on a little bit of a management plan

963
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 3: coming off asy with Tibbs as the head coach. He

964
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: doesn't like the managing.

965
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 2: Following the trend of current and former NBA players, Hawks

966
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 2: All Star guard Trey Young has joined the new media

967
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: by starting his own podcast. The premiere episode feature Trey

968
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 2: reflecting on the Hawk's season, his thoughts on the NBA Finals,

969
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 2: his friendship with Michael Porter Junior. I think this idea

970
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,399
Speaker 2: that he's gonna shoot more three pointers, or at least

971
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: better three pointers in the upcoming season with Quinn Snyder

972
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: as the head coach for the full time. But here

973
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: he is. We got another guy joining the podcast game,

974
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 2: another another really good player. We've got quite the all

975
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 2: NBA podcast team, Trey Young, CJ McCollum. That's our backcourt, okay, solid,

976
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: Paul George at the wing. I think we can put

977
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant there got to and Draymond Green small ball fives.

978
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 2: That's like, it's a good team. It's a good You

979
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: got Duncan Robinson coming off the bench. I guess you

980
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 2: got Pat Bev for some defensive possessions coming off the bench.

981
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 3: Yes, THEO Pinson and he's there for support.

982
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

983
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: JJ Reddick is the coach.

984
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 2: Sure, yes, it's a team.

985
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 3: That's a team right there, So Swider, he's there with

986
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: THEO Pinson.

987
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 2: As a podcast always forget about that. Have you listened

988
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: to Trey Young's podcast yet?

989
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:17,399
Speaker 4: No?

990
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: So many clips? Maybe I won't.

991
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 3: I won't listen to the podcast, but I will see

992
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 3: the clips like you all this exactly every NBA player podcast.

993
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 3: I rarely listened to the actual podcast, but I love

994
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: the clips. Yeah yeah, Paul George in particular, I feel

995
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,400
Speaker 3: like he's getting the best clips of anybody.

996
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 2: I agree.

997
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 3: Right now, everybody's coming on and being so honest with them.

998
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: The DeRozan one. I might have accidentally listened to the

999
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 3: whole podcast. I've watched some many of those clips, and

1000
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: I assume it'll be the same for Trey Young getting

1001
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: guys he knows to be honest with him, so that

1002
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: would be cool. And also, if I'm being honest, I

1003
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: learned something from Trey Young being on a podcast with

1004
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 3: JJ Reddick once when he was talking about hand strengtheners

1005
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 3: were part of the reason he was able to shoot

1006
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: from So, oh yeah, I ordered hand strengtheners.

1007
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 2: Are you still doing those?

1008
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1009
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 2: Just while you're watching the game, just.

1010
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Literally, every time we're on playback, I'm just like.

1011
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 2: This, Oh wow, Jesus, all right, you can learn some

1012
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: things from these. By the way, he's chopping it up

1013
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 2: with his childhood friend Winston. That's who Trey's talking to.

1014
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: Winston.

1015
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, guy, he's known for a long time. He's

1016
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,439
Speaker 2: sort of the the co host. You know a lot

1017
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 2: of these I can't speak for all of them, but

1018
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: a lot of them have a buddy. A buddy, yeah,

1019
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:25,439
Speaker 2: a friend. I guess Draymond really doesn't, does he. He just.

1020
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 3: Nobody else?

1021
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 2: No, No, he has guests on too. I know there's

1022
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: a clip going around with Steve Kerr. I think they

1023
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 2: talked after Game two and the adjustments that Spoe made

1024
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 2: with the Kevin Love starting and all that and the

1025
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 2: trickle down effect. So yeah, congrats to Trey Young. Uh,

1026
00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 2: now you got to stay consistent, my man. All right,

1027
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: that's right. Don't do this bullshit where you say you

1028
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: got a podcast, and you do a podcast and you

1029
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: do maybe another one next week and then we don't

1030
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 2: hear from you for months. Lock in your schedule and

1031
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: stay committed. All right. We can give you some advice, okay,

1032
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: on how to grow a podcast, but good luck. And

1033
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: if you ever want to come on, yeah, come here,

1034
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 2: yeah we can. Hey, we can rent out this space.

1035
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: They were just sitting in like I don't know, maybe

1036
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: a house or a hotel room, just sitting in chairs.

1037
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: That seems to be the classic go to sitting chairs podcast.

1038
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 2: Look chairs, sitting in chairs.

1039
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, come on over, Trey, double trace.

1040
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 4: Two trays, two trays, one neon sign.

1041
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: We can work on that. We'll photoshop that photoshop, I mean, brainstart.

1042
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,200
Speaker 2: We'll start photoshopping it too. All right, that's the NBA News.

1043
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 2: We've got to take one more break, and when we

1044
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: come back, we've got a must see tweet of the night.

1045
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: All right, still here in the Classic Factory. If you're

1046
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: joining us live on YouTube, hit that like button make

1047
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: sure you subscribe. Got some more coaching news that just

1048
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: came across the wire. Former Houston Rockets coach Steven Silas

1049
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,879
Speaker 2: has agreed to join the Detroit Pistons and new coach

1050
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 2: Monty Williams as the top assistant coach. So Silas was

1051
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: a hot name there. Everybody wanted him on the staff.

1052
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: I think the MAVs wanted them, the Warriors, the Hornets.

1053
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: But he elects to go with money Williams to Detroit.

1054
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: So putting together a nice little coaching staff there in Detroit.

1055
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 3: Sure, two guys with a former coaching experience. Dwayne Casey

1056
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 3: is now a front office guy, right, so they got

1057
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 3: a solid little brain trust going on in Detroit, and

1058
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 3: very expensive one as well. That's true. They just signed

1059
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 3: Monty to the biggest coaching deal of all time. Right, yep,

1060
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 3: Dwayne is now up. There's hiring big time assistant coaches

1061
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 3: who formerly were NBA coaches. They're paying for it. They're

1062
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 3: paying to get a brain trust. But maybe it will work.

1063
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: Gotta get an identity though, That's exactly right. All right,

1064
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: Let's get to tweet of the night.

1065
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:43,959
Speaker 1: Tweet of the Knight.

1066
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 3: Wow, Okay tweeted the night.

1067
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: If you are a podcast listener, I highly encourage you

1068
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 2: to look this up or swing over to our YouTube

1069
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: page and at least come see this video because it

1070
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: comes from the Score and it's by way of Instagram

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Speaker 2: showing Lamello Ball's new watch, Trey, how would you describe

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Speaker 2: this for the podcast listeners?

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Speaker 3: This is an ugly watch, an expensive ugly watch. I

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00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: saw that the number one comparison for this custom one

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00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: of one watch is Bowser's Shell. Yes, that does very

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00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 3: much look like Bowser's Shell.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I showed this to Nora. She agreed with you.

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Speaker 2: She said that is ugly, and she said it sort

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00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 2: of looks like they found it on the bottom of

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00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 2: the sea. There's like barnacles all over it, just you know,

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00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 2: diamond encrusted barnacles. But I see where she's going with that.

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00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 3: It's definitely a barnacle vibe. Yeah, which isn't something you're

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00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 3: usually looking for from a watch. But I guess this

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00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 3: is the watch you get when you've already got a

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00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: lot of other luxury watches. Get me your first, your

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00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: first luxury watch. Huh. You know, No, my guess is

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00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 3: he's got other watch. He's like, well, what am I

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00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:03,760
Speaker 3: gonna do? Now? You know I've already got a gold

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Speaker 3: diamondy one. What about a gold diamondy barnacle. One.

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Speaker 2: It's gotty, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: It's gotti.

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00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that was another popular Twitter response, like

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00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 2: like Liberaci's saying, oh that's a little too much. Gdd

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00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: Any thoughts on on Lamello's new time piece.

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Speaker 4: There, Yeah, it's hideous.

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Speaker 3: It is, it really is.

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00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 4: I do love the Liberaci saying it might be a

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00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 4: bit much.

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00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 3: The reviews are coming in from the stream team. Okay,

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00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 3: a horny watch looks like fungus. This looks like diamond

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00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: barnacles attached to a cassio.

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00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 4: Go.

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00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 3: Money can't buy you class. That's what the Countess Luanne said.

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00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 3: But you know what, he's only twenty one years old. Yeah,

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00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,279
Speaker 3: he wouldn't get the same watch if he was thirty

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00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 3: one years old.

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00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: Right, So how much does that watch costs? We don't know.

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00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 3: I couldn't find out. I was I was trying to

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00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 3: go deep. But the watch community is convinced that if

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00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 3: he ever wants to sell this watch, it won't sell

1112
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,479
Speaker 3: for as much. Put into it a plane, Jane Roly,

1113
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 3: It's gonna appreciate and value of it.

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00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's what you said. Like where a comment

1115
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: said like he's done this to what appears to be

1116
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 2: a Cassio. The sad part is that is probably an

1117
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 2: extremely expensive like Cardier watch. Yeah, like an insanely beautiful

1118
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: expensive watch, and then he's just put all this crap

1119
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 2: on it.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, so you think it's a custom job where

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00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 4: he was just like, here's my Rolex, I want you

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00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 4: to do this, and he described.

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Speaker 2: This, Okay, make it.

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00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: Make it bowser like yeah, bows are like bowser.

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00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: Like, uh yeah, I guess well I would hope. I

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00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 2: would almost hope that it's lamellow Ball having this vision

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00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: of what he thinks this watch would look like, yeah,

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00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: presenting it to the jeweler and then making it because

1129
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 2: if it's the opposite and it's like the jeweler just

1130
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 2: like I got an.

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00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 3: Idea for a beautiful I got one for you, my god.

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00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 2: I mean, and I hope it's not that. So yeah,

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00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: I think it's lameello. Yeah, like right, he's got the

1134
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 2: crazy like Neon whatever they are. He's a flashy guy,

1135
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: regardless of what is that a Lamborghini?

1136
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 4: I think I think okay, yeah, yeah, his highlighter.

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00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: The one where he was ripping through red lights as

1138
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: he stopped doing that that. No, No, the light is

1139
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 2: on his wrist like that would get caught on so

1140
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 2: much right, Like it's got like he's sticking out of it. Yeah, burr,

1141
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: you can't wear like you can't wear long sleeves with

1142
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: this or like, so I mean you gotta be in

1143
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 2: a T shirt or a tank top. Let's catch it

1144
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: on your fabric? Another look at all? Right? Thanks to

1145
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 2: the score.

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00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 3: I will say though, Super Mario Brothers, huge movie this summer.

1147
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: Loved it.

1148
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 3: Little Mermaid, huge movie this summer.

1149
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 2: Got to see.

1150
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 3: Oh, it's like jamming the two together. Maybe it's the

1151
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: perfect watch for summer twenty three. Interesting, Barnacle.

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00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,280
Speaker 2: Is there a big red button on that watch somewhere

1153
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 2: for Oppenheimer? Yes? What else? Ken, Well, we have Barbie

1154
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 2: movie coming out. We have flash It's flashy obviously Fast

1155
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 2: ten will be doing a film session for that somewhat soon.

1156
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: Any other movies. I feel like there was another one

1157
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 2: they showed that. Oh there's this Grand Tarisma movie. It

1158
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 2: looks like shit.

1159
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm in the boban and commercial is not look.

1160
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 2: Good to me?

1161
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 4: The Grand Tourisma. No, it's it's a video game player

1162
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 4: who played Grand Turismo and they bring him in as

1163
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: a driver, and apparently it's based on a true story.

1164
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 3: What like some video gamer was so sweet at playing

1165
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 3: Grand Charisma. They're like, let's see if you can drive

1166
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:39,359
Speaker 3: a real it's such a realistic game.

1167
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we talked about this on Is this good?

1168
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 4: Because Max was telling Max told us or not, Vince

1169
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,320
Speaker 4: was telling us, you know, that was the plot. And

1170
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 4: I'm like, I've heard of video game players who are

1171
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 4: really really good at Grand Tourisma and they know the

1172
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 4: tracks actually better than some of the drivers because they

1173
00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 4: play so much.

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00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 3: Wow, So I.

1175
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 2: Don't know, actually take that well, I I assume then

1176
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 2: he was one of these players that has the whole setup.

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00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:06,359
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1178
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, like, uh, I remember I was once at a

1179
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: party where a greating Gordian and his buddies Ye did

1180
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 2: thet yeah yeah, driving actually like video games, driving and

1181
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 2: rotating in and out. Yeah, And I was there watching

1182
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 2: for a little bit and it was entertaining as hell.

1183
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 4: They took it very seriously. I heard, Well, yeah they were.

1184
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if they were trying to set a

1185
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: record or something. I forget what it was. I think

1186
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,280
Speaker 2: they were trying to beat like their previous score time

1187
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 2: or whatever. I remember I was there doing rough weather.

1188
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 2: It was raining a lot of stress on the driver.

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00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, amazing, Jan Martin Borough, So this is I guess.

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00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, I like just my quick Wikipedia

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00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: while we're chatting here, looks like a thing.

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00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 4: Cool.

1193
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: Well maybe now we have to watch.

1194
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 4: Its sounds like no breaks.

1195
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, session, Okay, okay, it's packed. Me into it all right, guys,

1196
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 2: that's tweeting the night. That's hopefully another classic edition of

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00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 2: the No Dunks podcast. You tell us by leaving us

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00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 2: I know he's gonna be back here in person. I'll

1201
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: tell him to his face. But tasking Jerome just killing

1202
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: the coverage so good in Denver with all of the shorts,

1203
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 2: all of the picks, all the fun stuff that they

1204
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Speaker 2: had across a lot of our social media channels. So

1205
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: now it's your turn. Pressures a lot. I like how

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Speaker 2: the bar's been set great And here's christ TK with

1207
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 2: Jerome in Miami for Games three and four. So have

1208
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Speaker 2: a blast, man. Yeah, you're taking this.

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00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 3: Speedle absolutely packed it last night. That was the first

1210
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 3: thing I got out for packing. I was like, cannot

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00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 3: forget this, good man, good man.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, make sure you subscribe to us across all

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Speaker 2: and Jerome in Miami. Have a safe flight. We will

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Speaker 2: see you guys tomorrow. Till then, Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 3: You heard it here first, A great time turn up.

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Speaker 3: for managing networks, systems and IT infrastructure. So I will

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Speaker 3: see you at halftime of game three. Benveno.

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Speaker 2: Okay, WiFi is gonna be real strong. Race the day, people,