WEBVTT - Conflict Of Interest (BA Q&A)

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<v Speaker 1>b a q a, which say the b a q

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<v Speaker 1>a with Mandy, the b a q a with Ti

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<v Speaker 1>b a q a a. I feel like I was

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and someone was like, oh, where was I, and

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<v Speaker 1>they asked me about.

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<v Speaker 2>You the blanking the museum without me becausetory.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe, I feel like maybe. And then she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a hug. I know you don't like hugs,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is for Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, thank you, continue doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I man, it's gonna be me peel myself because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got to repel the floor.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you about the things underwear. You gotta get

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<v Speaker 2>on that. Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, so y'all love to do that. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know how much you hate. That's for me and

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<v Speaker 1>d I'm like, they go, hug Mandy. No, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind kinda yeah anyway, So b a qa So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have questions, we have some answers. Although we are

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<v Speaker 1>not your mama, your daddy, your sister, your doctor, your lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not anything except for two smart, cute, fabulous brown

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<v Speaker 1>girls who can give you a little bit of advice

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<v Speaker 1>from the smallest grain of the smallest piece of salt.

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<v Speaker 1>But ultimately we want you to lean into those people

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<v Speaker 1>that you give money to to get your advice from. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this is for education, not educational, this is for entertainment purposes.

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<v Speaker 1>So lamente that means only if you spoke Spanish like

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<v Speaker 1>me and Mandy. Yeah, so many you want to go first?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's our first? I will go first to got some juicy,

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<v Speaker 2>juicy career questions, which are my favorite. All Right, the

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<v Speaker 2>first question I almost had to do a double take

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, is this the Mandy money Maker who

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<v Speaker 2>I was just talking to, who went through something very similar?

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to use an expression y'all may be

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<v Speaker 2>familiar with. It's called the PIT, which is a performance

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<v Speaker 2>improvement plan. So let's take our first question from someone

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<v Speaker 2>who wants to be called a worried entry level professional. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>she says, first and foremost, I love your podcast. You

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<v Speaker 2>guys have taught me so much about all things career

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<v Speaker 2>and finance. I was recently let go for my job

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<v Speaker 2>due to failing to meet the requirements of a performance

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<v Speaker 2>improvement or PIT plan. I was put on it for

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<v Speaker 2>my last month of employment. I was working there for

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<v Speaker 2>about a year, and the whole time I felt as

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<v Speaker 2>though I wasn't properly onboarded to the projects I was on.

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<v Speaker 2>I always ask questions when I was confused, but overall

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<v Speaker 2>it was a very fast paced environment and I was

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<v Speaker 2>totally new to the industry. Because of this, I just

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<v Speaker 2>felt like a fish out of water every day for

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<v Speaker 2>about a year. But I always showed up to work

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<v Speaker 2>with a great attitude and I thought I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>a great job. Towards the end of my time and

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<v Speaker 2>my position, my manager revealed to me that I was

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<v Speaker 2>not performing to the standards that someone in my position

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<v Speaker 2>should have. In place me on the PIP for thirty days.

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<v Speaker 2>When she told me this, I immediately took accountability and

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<v Speaker 2>told her I would do better. Long story shirt short.

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<v Speaker 2>My manager told me I did not improve after thirty

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<v Speaker 2>days to their expectations, so I was being let go

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<v Speaker 2>from my position. The moment that I was placed on

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<v Speaker 2>the PIP, I started looking for new roles. But now

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<v Speaker 2>it's been almost three months and I'm starting to get worried.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's my question. I want to know. How should

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<v Speaker 2>I answer the question, why did you leave your last position?

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<v Speaker 2>With all the layoffs happening. I've just been telling recruiters

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<v Speaker 2>that I was laid off. But is this okay? Is

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<v Speaker 2>my future employer going to know that I was placed

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<v Speaker 2>on a PIP. I just don't want to tell future

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<v Speaker 2>employers that I was on a PIP because I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like I will never get hired again and I'm only

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<v Speaker 2>at the beginning of my career. Thank you, and I

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate all of your help. Oh, I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>give you a bang hug.

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<v Speaker 1>So first of all, because this is new to me,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to ask questions as like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like a round, you know, so, like I understand it,

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<v Speaker 1>PIP means performance improvement plans, so maybe like what does

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<v Speaker 1>that really mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Like what is that?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>I have actually given performance improvement plans a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>times in my career as a manager. So the thing is,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no standardization of pips. It's pretty much up to

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<v Speaker 2>the company and even the manager themselves to come up with,

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<v Speaker 2>like what should we say this person has to do

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<v Speaker 2>to basically save their job. But if you're at the

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<v Speaker 2>level of a PIP, it means that you have been

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<v Speaker 2>consistently not meeting expectations. Ideally, it's not going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise to you that you're on a PIP because

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<v Speaker 2>you've been having regular one on ones and maybe even

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<v Speaker 2>quarterly you know, MANI performance reviews with your manager, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know that you're not up to scratch. When a

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<v Speaker 2>PIP happens, at least in my experience, this is when

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<v Speaker 2>you get HR involved and you put out a document

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to sign it as the employee and

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<v Speaker 2>your manager will sign it in probably the HR REP

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<v Speaker 2>and a PIP is going to say, so it can

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<v Speaker 2>be like thirty days, forty five days, ninety days, it's

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<v Speaker 2>up to whatever, but thirty days is you know, fine standard.

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<v Speaker 2>So it'll say typically like here's what here's exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>you've been doing that has not met our expectations, and

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<v Speaker 2>here's what you need to do. We need to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to see this much X y Z over the

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<v Speaker 2>next thirty days, and ideally it's very measurable. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>we need you to show up on time every morning

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<v Speaker 2>for the next thirty days. You'd be and you be

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<v Speaker 2>at your desk by nine thirty am. We need you

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<v Speaker 2>to meet your sales quota. I'm just using a really

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<v Speaker 2>easy example eighty percent of the time or just have

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<v Speaker 2>you know, specific benchmarks for them to hit. And at

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<v Speaker 2>this point I would highly suggest and I like that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the the a worried entry level professional as

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<v Speaker 2>she wants to be called, says, as soon as I

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<v Speaker 2>got a PIP, I started job searching, absolutely, because even

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<v Speaker 2>if you survive the PIP, it's it's it's almost a

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<v Speaker 2>tool to get you to get like get with it

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<v Speaker 2>and like get to step in. When I used a PIP,

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<v Speaker 2>I did want the person to improve, but because I

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<v Speaker 2>had seen, you know, what they were capable of for

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<v Speaker 2>months and years, at some points it really was like

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<v Speaker 2>a formal way of saying, it's time for you to

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<v Speaker 2>probably think about moving on, and I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>I want to give you notice. Like it's almost like

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<v Speaker 2>a You can look at it negatively, like, oh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just them trying to push you out, But for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, let me give you a bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a wake up call so that you have some time

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<v Speaker 2>to get your shit in order and find a job

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<v Speaker 2>that is the right fit for you, because this is

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<v Speaker 2>not working, and you know we're a business. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna I can't keep someone on the team who is

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<v Speaker 2>in performing that's just not something that we can do. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's in a nutshell what a pip is like.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, so you'll be sat down and it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>not fun to have those conversations. Yes, it's not fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Then what do you suggest for her? So to her point,

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<v Speaker 1>she's like, all right, I'm probably not going to have

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<v Speaker 1>this job. What do I tell people so I can

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, but also so I don't brand myself as

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<v Speaker 1>the pit girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would say, do not lead with I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't lie because, like I think it comes across

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<v Speaker 2>in a conversation when you're like, I was laid off.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't even tell someone who was laid off to

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<v Speaker 2>just say I was laid off, because even that is

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<v Speaker 2>going to open the recruiter's mind or the main hiring

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<v Speaker 2>manager's mind to like, uh, why were you laid off?

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<v Speaker 2>Were you not as good as everyone else? Like you

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<v Speaker 2>need to have a better story to tell. I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>talking about how storytelling is one of the most undervalued

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<v Speaker 2>skill sets as an employee as you move throughout your career,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's really how you tell the story of the

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<v Speaker 2>moves that you've made that can make or break someone's

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<v Speaker 2>first impression of you and will they move you on

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<v Speaker 2>to the next round. And so what I mean by

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<v Speaker 2>that is, Okay, you had a performance improvement plan, you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't meet the expectations, you got the boot. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to know that. You don't want to tell them that.

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<v Speaker 2>So what you can say is, you know, I'm new

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<v Speaker 2>to this field. I spent a year with this company

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<v Speaker 2>and I showed up every day with an incredible with

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<v Speaker 2>a great attitude positive. Unfortunately I wasn't. And you want

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<v Speaker 2>to be careful here because you don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>crap about your former manager, because in their mind the recruiter,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to be thinking about, oh, is she going

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<v Speaker 2>to talk crap about me someday. But what you want

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<v Speaker 2>to say is, you know, we sort of came to

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<v Speaker 2>a mutual decision that, given the expectations of the job

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<v Speaker 2>and how different they were to my impression of the

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<v Speaker 2>job when I started, that it was better for me

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<v Speaker 2>to look for a new opportunity. And I'm really excited

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<v Speaker 2>about working here because I can see that you guys

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<v Speaker 2>really invest in your workers, You train them, you give guidance,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that I you know, I'd be going

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<v Speaker 2>into a workplace where I would have that kind of support.

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<v Speaker 2>That's one way to frame it, so that you're sort

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<v Speaker 2>of telling a story of you know, you weren't exactly

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<v Speaker 2>supported in your previous role, but then you're shifting it

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<v Speaker 2>and spinning it around to kind of praise the company

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<v Speaker 2>that you're interviewing for by pointing out the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you like that they have, you know, at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>you know about maybe a training program, or they have

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<v Speaker 2>regular performance reviews or communication, you know, with their managers.

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<v Speaker 2>You could and you can leave it at that. You

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<v Speaker 2>could also just say I had a shift, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a shift in what I wanted from my career,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm ready for a new challenge or a new

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<v Speaker 2>direction in my career, and I think that your company

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<v Speaker 2>and this position is perfect for me, and I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>excited about it, and kind of, you know, you address it,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you just kind of move on without giving

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<v Speaker 2>too much detail. I think omitting the specifics of the

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<v Speaker 2>pit and all that is probably the best case scenario

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<v Speaker 2>because no matter like my heart goes out to you

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of empathy for you for going through

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<v Speaker 2>a pit, but as a hiring manager. If you got

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<v Speaker 2>someone who's telling you they've struggled, and you've got candidates

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<v Speaker 2>who you know, seem like they're going to come in

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<v Speaker 2>and get it right away, Yeah, you're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>go for the person who's kind of told you already

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<v Speaker 2>that they've had some issues in the past. Meaning expectations

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<v Speaker 2>now on your part. Get it together in the sense

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<v Speaker 2>that whatever it is. I know that you know you

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<v Speaker 2>said you didn't get the guidance that you needed. But

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<v Speaker 2>if this is the career path that you want, how

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<v Speaker 2>can you start getting better, getting the help that you

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<v Speaker 2>need and improving. So maybe you could offer to freelance

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<v Speaker 2>or shadow sit down and speak with people who are

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<v Speaker 2>really familiar with the field that you're in. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you can go to a networking event and just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I just had this experience and it didn't work out,

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<v Speaker 2>but I still want to do this. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what kind of work you do. I want to be

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<v Speaker 2>in this field, you know, can you help me figure

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<v Speaker 2>out sort of what went wrong and and so I

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<v Speaker 2>can do better in the next one. You need someone

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<v Speaker 2>to like carry like hold your hand a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>and help you get the skills that you were lacking.

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<v Speaker 2>That led you to not have this job, because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want you to go into your next job and

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<v Speaker 2>I and I hope that you get one soon, but

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want you to go in there having not

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<v Speaker 2>changed anything, you know, from what happened last time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really good advice now, because I mean, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not on the career side, I'll just say maybe

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<v Speaker 1>on the potential hiring side.

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<v Speaker 2>You never given a pip to any of your unicorn

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<v Speaker 2>squads because you don't have no girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's why there's so many of them are

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<v Speaker 1>going now and the amazing ones are here. Hey, girls,

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<v Speaker 1>that's shade. I didn't know I was. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>how to lead as well as I I let a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff slide, and so yes, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>here we are now where you know that's not the

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<v Speaker 1>case now. Honestly, everybody's amazing and not the people were

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<v Speaker 1>really nice. But I did not know how to to

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<v Speaker 1>give constructive criticism, not criticism Cristucks, constructive critique of work.

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<v Speaker 1>So I just let saying things slide and then said

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<v Speaker 1>I just took on that burgeon for myself until I

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<v Speaker 1>wore myself out, which is not good. But I'll just say,

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<v Speaker 1>as somebody who hires people that yes, I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously I'm wanting you to be honest. But to Mandy's point,

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<v Speaker 1>not to the detriment of yourself. You know, you're here

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<v Speaker 1>to sell yourself basically, you know, and if I know that, ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not expecting it. You know how to do everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am expecting that you are willing to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I hear that, like with Mandy, to Mandy's point,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, you know, you know, here's where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I had some challenges, but I'm someone who I

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<v Speaker 1>took this class, I learned this, I did this, And

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<v Speaker 1>to Mandy's point, like one of my one of the

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<v Speaker 1>things I love, like so much for about the people

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<v Speaker 1>on my team is they're constantly taking courses and classes

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<v Speaker 1>and learning and beyond what you know, like what I'm sharing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like Logan, I mean there's always a class

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<v Speaker 1>Logan's taken a Eekeisa was just telling me, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I took a class on that. I'm like, that's why

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<v Speaker 1>they're here and why they continue to excel, because the

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<v Speaker 1>key is even beyond working with me, like the team,

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<v Speaker 1>they when you do that, you get to gather skill

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<v Speaker 1>sets that makes you marketable across the board.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like there's a win for you and making

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<v Speaker 1>yourself better because even if the budgetessa doesn't exist, they

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<v Speaker 1>can go on and be great other places. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that's just a really good advice that made it gave

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<v Speaker 1>you so hope.

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<v Speaker 2>You mean in you can't be in the passenger seat

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to your career. You need to get

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<v Speaker 2>that steering wheel girl and drive it yourself and go

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<v Speaker 2>into jobs. Yes, ready to perform and ready to like listen,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can't expect your manager to teach you every

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<v Speaker 2>single thing. You know, take some ownership, and take some

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<v Speaker 2>ownership proactive yourself and raise in doing your own research.

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<v Speaker 2>And as you're falling behind in a skill like finding

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<v Speaker 2>a way to get caught up without just being telling

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<v Speaker 2>your boss like I don't get.

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<v Speaker 1>At Yeah, that is the worst. It's like, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying this that like doctor Green. My therapist share

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<v Speaker 1>with me this a couple of weeks ago, which I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, it was a great aha moment. She said

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<v Speaker 1>that you are you cannot help when something happens to you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So something bad happens to you. That is not your fault,

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<v Speaker 1>but at some point you have to take responsibility of

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<v Speaker 1>how you choose to live your life. Yeah, so like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so, okay, I have an unresponsive boss, got

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<v Speaker 1>out such a fault, but you have to take responsibility,

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<v Speaker 1>like knowing that I'm not going to get support here,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I need to do? You do have a

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<v Speaker 1>choice there, and so all of us have those choices

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<v Speaker 1>doing that thing? So I want to take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>break so we can answer our next question. But real

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<v Speaker 1>quick before we take a break, I know we probably

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Our second question today is from Sad Sad. She says, Hey, ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Brown ambition and listen every week. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a relatively successful YouTube channel and I got really good

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<v Speaker 1>at audio and video editing.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that for you.

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<v Speaker 1>A content production company hired me to do editing for

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<v Speaker 1>them with an amazing salary. But after I got the job,

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<v Speaker 1>my boss asked me to stop doing my own channel

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<v Speaker 1>because a conflict of interest and my content was pretty controversial.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what you mean is that fair? I never signed

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<v Speaker 1>a non compete, and if he told me this from

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning, I'm not sure I would have taken it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love my new job, but I feel sad about

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<v Speaker 1>I feel sad without my own YouTube that I work

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<v Speaker 1>so hard on. Please give me some advice. Ooh, you

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<v Speaker 1>are between a rock and a hard place. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>is it fair? Let's answer that question absolutely not, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like they well, here's the thing. Is it fair for

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<v Speaker 1>them to spring this on you after already giving you

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<v Speaker 1>that job? No, because they knew who he works? Is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like that's yes? You know, so that they

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<v Speaker 1>probably reached out to you because of your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>your editing skills and like what they saw there which

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<v Speaker 1>asking you to shift like beforehand, it's one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>way you can make an educated decision based upon this

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<v Speaker 1>is what's being offered to me. But asking you after

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<v Speaker 1>having you locked in that is quite unfair and unprofessional

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<v Speaker 1>of them. And so I here's the thing you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to decide. I don't know what your money's looking

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<v Speaker 1>like and how like by successful what do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>financially successful your YouTube channel? And kind of like what's

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<v Speaker 1>your desired outcome in the long run, like what you're

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<v Speaker 1>wanting Like are you wanting to work for yourself? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you wanting to to you know, eventually do maybe freelance

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to video conduct production? You know, and

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<v Speaker 1>if that is the case, you might decide I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to stay with them for a specific amount of time

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<v Speaker 1>until I can save up another money so I can

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<v Speaker 1>strike back out on my own. I don't want you

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<v Speaker 1>to not have your own creative outlet. And just because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't post them live doesn't mean you still can't create.

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<v Speaker 1>And so consider if it was me, honestly, I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would continue to create. Maybe I would not make those

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<v Speaker 1>things live because I want to just keep my skill

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<v Speaker 1>set home, and I'd be hatching a plan to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>That's probably what I would do. It's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's up to you, obviously, but I'd be like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna stay here for six months or a year

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is until I can save up this

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<v Speaker 1>amount of money. I'm gonna live below my means, save

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<v Speaker 1>up a certain amount of money so I can strike

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<v Speaker 1>out on my own, and maybe I can be my

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<v Speaker 1>own video production company for other people. Because now I

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<v Speaker 1>know how to do this, I'm going to let them pay.

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<v Speaker 2>Me to learn.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this business that they're in, because I we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Life is sad enough, you know, And if you have

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<v Speaker 1>this amazing outlet to lean into, I hate for you

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<v Speaker 1>to see that to I would hate for that to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the same time, we're adults. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>pay bills and we have to you know, main like

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<v Speaker 1>the financial parts of our lives. So I wouldn't just

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<v Speaker 1>jump out the window when it came to this, I

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<v Speaker 1>would be planning of how do I have both? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>like how do I have some financial security, but how

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<v Speaker 1>do I be able to live it and do the

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<v Speaker 1>thing I want to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I have direct And that's the reason I kind

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<v Speaker 2>of got a heavy, like a heavy sigh with this

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<v Speaker 2>question because it brought up for me a feeling that

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<v Speaker 2>I have when employed. You know what I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 2>that I have been in the shoes of someone who

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<v Speaker 2>was hired because they have this great platform and you

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<v Speaker 2>know in social media and all that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and the person who hires you thinks it's great. But

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<v Speaker 2>then you get into the company and there's other opinions.

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<v Speaker 2>There's people who didn't you know know, maybe they're like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>someone's so and so hired a new video person. That's great,

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<v Speaker 2>but then they find out about maybe your YouTube channel

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<v Speaker 2>and then it offends them or something that you said

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<v Speaker 2>runs a rub someone the wrong way. And they are

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<v Speaker 2>a senior executive and it gets up the chain and

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, it wasn't a problem when you

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<v Speaker 2>were hired because your hurry manager had no problem with it.

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<v Speaker 2>But the huge mistake that they made was not getting

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<v Speaker 2>the proper you know, approvals and having other people at

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<v Speaker 2>the company way in are we okay with this? Et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm really sorry that that happened to you. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you're going to try to do any

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<v Speaker 2>full time work, you have to be aware that of

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<v Speaker 2>that and be like, listen, I'm comfortable, but I will

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<v Speaker 2>not be signing a non compete. I need assurance that

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<v Speaker 2>my show content is fine. That's if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>stay nine to five. And I get why you would.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's like Tiffany said, the you know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>learning the industry, You're getna get paid a reliable income. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>it's nice over there in W two land. I miss

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<v Speaker 2>it sometimes, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have this problem, especially if you continue. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>if your side hustle, your business overlaps with what you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing nine to five. Conflict of interest is like always

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<v Speaker 2>potentially going to be an issue that you're gonna run into.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I would say is right now, is is

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<v Speaker 2>there an option other than like what I like what

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<v Speaker 2>TIFs are actually about sticking it out, maybe pausing the

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<v Speaker 2>YouTube but still continuing to create the content. But then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, looking for a way out saving up coins

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<v Speaker 2>that you can branch out getting some clients of your

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<v Speaker 2>own contract on a contract basis, and you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>this company could potentially be your first contract client as

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<v Speaker 2>a instead of working full time, because the key to

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<v Speaker 2>you working with them but not being a full time

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<v Speaker 2>employee could just be the fact that you are a freelancer,

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<v Speaker 2>you're not full time. So you could propose, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>down the line, or maybe even now, if you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you're comfortable with it, propose a solution where you're like, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to be stopping my YouTube channel if

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<v Speaker 2>that's if that means that you know it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be an issue for me being a full time employee,

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<v Speaker 2>can we talk about, you know, moving me to a

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<v Speaker 2>contract basis and then you can come up with a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a contract fee, a sorry, a contract salary

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<v Speaker 2>instead of you know, like whatever you're making. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's like pros and cons to that. But if you

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<v Speaker 2>have your own IP, you want to protect that as

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<v Speaker 2>much as you can and just be aware of it

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<v Speaker 2>as you move through these corporate streets that they can

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<v Speaker 2>and they will shut it down if there's any risk

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<v Speaker 2>that it's going to make them look bad. Because you

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<v Speaker 2>join their company, you represent them, and that's what they're

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<v Speaker 2>thinking when they put out these non competes and such

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<v Speaker 2>conflict of interest I mean, sorry, conflict of interest clauses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and now you know you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, like there are worse positions to be

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like sometimes you just got to like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a bit your time, Like, Okay, that was cute, you

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<v Speaker 1>caught that. Let me just get myself together so I

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<v Speaker 1>can go back to what I love to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>I get to learn and get to make some money.

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<v Speaker 1>I get to stack a little something. Yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you might decide. I mean, it's really up to you.

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<v Speaker 1>But what I I'm never gonna encourage anyone to give

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially if you're making money off of it. Keep

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<v Speaker 2>going man for woman.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, sad YouTuber, hopefully you're a little less sad. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you're just grumpy, you know, maybe a little forlorn, you know,

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