1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,159 Speaker 1: It's time for the b a q a a to 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: b a q a, which say the b a q 3 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: a with Mandy, the b a q a with Ti 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: b a q a a. I feel like I was 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: somewhere and someone was like, oh, where was I, and 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: they asked me about. 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: You the blanking the museum without me becausetory. 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: Maybe, I feel like maybe. And then she was like, 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: this is a hug. I know you don't like hugs, 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: but this is for Mandy. 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: I was like, thank you, continue doing that. 12 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: I man, it's gonna be me peel myself because you know, 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: I got to repel the floor. 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: I told you about the things underwear. You gotta get 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: on that. Oh my goodness. 16 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: Like yeah, so y'all love to do that. They're like, oh, 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: I know how much you hate. That's for me and 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 1: d I'm like, they go, hug Mandy. No, I don't 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: mind kinda yeah anyway, So b a qa So if 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: you have questions, we have some answers. Although we are 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: not your mama, your daddy, your sister, your doctor, your lawyer, 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: we're not anything except for two smart, cute, fabulous brown 23 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: girls who can give you a little bit of advice 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: from the smallest grain of the smallest piece of salt. 25 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: But ultimately we want you to lean into those people 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: that you give money to to get your advice from. Okay, 27 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: this is for education, not educational, this is for entertainment purposes. 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: So lamente that means only if you spoke Spanish like 29 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: me and Mandy. Yeah, so many you want to go first? 30 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 2: Who's our first? I will go first to got some juicy, 31 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: juicy career questions, which are my favorite. All Right, the 32 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: first question I almost had to do a double take 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: because I'm like, is this the Mandy money Maker who 34 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 2: I was just talking to, who went through something very similar? 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: But I'm going to use an expression y'all may be 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: familiar with. It's called the PIT, which is a performance 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 2: improvement plan. So let's take our first question from someone 38 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 2: who wants to be called a worried entry level professional. Okay, 39 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 2: she says, first and foremost, I love your podcast. You 40 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: guys have taught me so much about all things career 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: and finance. I was recently let go for my job 42 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: due to failing to meet the requirements of a performance 43 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 2: improvement or PIT plan. I was put on it for 44 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: my last month of employment. I was working there for 45 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: about a year, and the whole time I felt as 46 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 2: though I wasn't properly onboarded to the projects I was on. 47 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: I always ask questions when I was confused, but overall 48 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: it was a very fast paced environment and I was 49 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 2: totally new to the industry. Because of this, I just 50 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: felt like a fish out of water every day for 51 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: about a year. But I always showed up to work 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:50,679 Speaker 2: with a great attitude and I thought I was doing 53 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 2: a great job. Towards the end of my time and 54 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 2: my position, my manager revealed to me that I was 55 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: not performing to the standards that someone in my position 56 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 2: should have. In place me on the PIP for thirty days. 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 2: When she told me this, I immediately took accountability and 58 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: told her I would do better. Long story shirt short. 59 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 2: My manager told me I did not improve after thirty 60 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: days to their expectations, so I was being let go 61 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: from my position. The moment that I was placed on 62 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: the PIP, I started looking for new roles. But now 63 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: it's been almost three months and I'm starting to get worried. 64 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 2: So here's my question. I want to know. How should 65 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: I answer the question, why did you leave your last position? 66 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: With all the layoffs happening. I've just been telling recruiters 67 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: that I was laid off. But is this okay? Is 68 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 2: my future employer going to know that I was placed 69 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: on a PIP. I just don't want to tell future 70 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 2: employers that I was on a PIP because I feel 71 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: like I will never get hired again and I'm only 72 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: at the beginning of my career. Thank you, and I 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: appreciate all of your help. Oh, I just want to 74 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: give you a bang hug. 75 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: So first of all, because this is new to me, 76 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: So I'm going to ask questions as like, you know, 77 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: like a round, you know, so, like I understand it, 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: PIP means performance improvement plans, so maybe like what does 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: that really mean? 80 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: Like what is that? 81 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: So? 82 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: I have actually given performance improvement plans a couple of 83 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: times in my career as a manager. So the thing is, 84 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 2: there's no standardization of pips. It's pretty much up to 85 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 2: the company and even the manager themselves to come up with, 86 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: like what should we say this person has to do 87 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: to basically save their job. But if you're at the 88 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 2: level of a PIP, it means that you have been 89 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 2: consistently not meeting expectations. Ideally, it's not going to be 90 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: a surprise to you that you're on a PIP because 91 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: you've been having regular one on ones and maybe even 92 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: quarterly you know, MANI performance reviews with your manager, so 93 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 2: you know that you're not up to scratch. When a 94 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 2: PIP happens, at least in my experience, this is when 95 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: you get HR involved and you put out a document 96 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 2: and you have to sign it as the employee and 97 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,799 Speaker 2: your manager will sign it in probably the HR REP 98 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: and a PIP is going to say, so it can 99 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 2: be like thirty days, forty five days, ninety days, it's 100 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 2: up to whatever, but thirty days is you know, fine standard. 101 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 2: So it'll say typically like here's what here's exactly what 102 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 2: you've been doing that has not met our expectations, and 103 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: here's what you need to do. We need to be 104 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 2: able to see this much X y Z over the 105 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: next thirty days, and ideally it's very measurable. So it's 106 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 2: we need you to show up on time every morning 107 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: for the next thirty days. You'd be and you be 108 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: at your desk by nine thirty am. We need you 109 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 2: to meet your sales quota. I'm just using a really 110 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 2: easy example eighty percent of the time or just have 111 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 2: you know, specific benchmarks for them to hit. And at 112 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: this point I would highly suggest and I like that, 113 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: you know the the a worried entry level professional as 114 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: she wants to be called, says, as soon as I 115 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 2: got a PIP, I started job searching, absolutely, because even 116 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 2: if you survive the PIP, it's it's it's almost a 117 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: tool to get you to get like get with it 118 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: and like get to step in. When I used a PIP, 119 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: I did want the person to improve, but because I 120 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,240 Speaker 2: had seen, you know, what they were capable of for 121 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: months and years, at some points it really was like 122 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: a formal way of saying, it's time for you to 123 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: probably think about moving on, and I want to be 124 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 2: I want to give you notice. Like it's almost like 125 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 2: a You can look at it negatively, like, oh, it's 126 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: just them trying to push you out, But for me, 127 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,599 Speaker 2: I was like, let me give you a bit of 128 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 2: a wake up call so that you have some time 129 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: to get your shit in order and find a job 130 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: that is the right fit for you, because this is 131 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: not working, and you know we're a business. I'm not 132 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 2: gonna I can't keep someone on the team who is 133 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: in performing that's just not something that we can do. So, yeah, 134 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: that's that's in a nutshell what a pip is like. 135 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 2: And yes, so you'll be sat down and it's it's 136 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 2: not fun to have those conversations. Yes, it's not fun. 137 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: Then what do you suggest for her? So to her point, 138 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: she's like, all right, I'm probably not going to have 139 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: this job. What do I tell people so I can 140 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: be honest, but also so I don't brand myself as 141 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: the pit girl. 142 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say, do not lead with I wouldn't 143 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: I wouldn't lie because, like I think it comes across 144 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 2: in a conversation when you're like, I was laid off. 145 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: I wouldn't even tell someone who was laid off to 146 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: just say I was laid off, because even that is 147 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 2: going to open the recruiter's mind or the main hiring 148 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: manager's mind to like, uh, why were you laid off? 149 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 2: Were you not as good as everyone else? Like you 150 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 2: need to have a better story to tell. I'm always 151 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: talking about how storytelling is one of the most undervalued 152 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: skill sets as an employee as you move throughout your career, 153 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: because it's really how you tell the story of the 154 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: moves that you've made that can make or break someone's 155 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: first impression of you and will they move you on 156 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 2: to the next round. And so what I mean by 157 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 2: that is, Okay, you had a performance improvement plan, you 158 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 2: didn't meet the expectations, you got the boot. They don't 159 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: need to know that. You don't want to tell them that. 160 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: So what you can say is, you know, I'm new 161 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: to this field. I spent a year with this company 162 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 2: and I showed up every day with an incredible with 163 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: a great attitude positive. Unfortunately I wasn't. And you want 164 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: to be careful here because you don't want to talk 165 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: crap about your former manager, because in their mind the recruiter, 166 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: they're going to be thinking about, oh, is she going 167 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: to talk crap about me someday. But what you want 168 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: to say is, you know, we sort of came to 169 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: a mutual decision that, given the expectations of the job 170 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: and how different they were to my impression of the 171 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: job when I started, that it was better for me 172 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 2: to look for a new opportunity. And I'm really excited 173 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 2: about working here because I can see that you guys 174 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: really invest in your workers, You train them, you give guidance, 175 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: and I know that I you know, I'd be going 176 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: into a workplace where I would have that kind of support. 177 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: That's one way to frame it, so that you're sort 178 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: of telling a story of you know, you weren't exactly 179 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: supported in your previous role, but then you're shifting it 180 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 2: and spinning it around to kind of praise the company 181 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: that you're interviewing for by pointing out the fact that 182 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: you like that they have, you know, at this point, 183 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: you know about maybe a training program, or they have 184 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: regular performance reviews or communication, you know, with their managers. 185 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 2: You could and you can leave it at that. You 186 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 2: could also just say I had a shift, and you know, 187 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: I had a shift in what I wanted from my career, 188 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 2: and I'm ready for a new challenge or a new 189 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: direction in my career, and I think that your company 190 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: and this position is perfect for me, and I'm very 191 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 2: excited about it, and kind of, you know, you address it, 192 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 2: but then you just kind of move on without giving 193 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 2: too much detail. I think omitting the specifics of the 194 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: pit and all that is probably the best case scenario 195 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: because no matter like my heart goes out to you 196 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: have a lot of empathy for you for going through 197 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,319 Speaker 2: a pit, but as a hiring manager. If you got 198 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 2: someone who's telling you they've struggled, and you've got candidates 199 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: who you know, seem like they're going to come in 200 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: and get it right away, Yeah, you're not going to 201 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 2: go for the person who's kind of told you already 202 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: that they've had some issues in the past. Meaning expectations 203 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: now on your part. Get it together in the sense 204 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: that whatever it is. I know that you know you 205 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: said you didn't get the guidance that you needed. But 206 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: if this is the career path that you want, how 207 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 2: can you start getting better, getting the help that you 208 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: need and improving. So maybe you could offer to freelance 209 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: or shadow sit down and speak with people who are 210 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: really familiar with the field that you're in. You know, 211 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 2: you can go to a networking event and just say, hey, 212 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:54,079 Speaker 2: I just had this experience and it didn't work out, 213 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: but I still want to do this. I don't know 214 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 2: what kind of work you do. I want to be 215 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 2: in this field, you know, can you help me figure 216 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 2: out sort of what went wrong and and so I 217 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: can do better in the next one. You need someone 218 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: to like carry like hold your hand a little bit 219 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 2: and help you get the skills that you were lacking. 220 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: That led you to not have this job, because I 221 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: don't want you to go into your next job and 222 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 2: I and I hope that you get one soon, but 223 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: I don't want you to go in there having not 224 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 2: changed anything, you know, from what happened last time. 225 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: That's really good advice now, because I mean, because you know, 226 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: I'm not on the career side, I'll just say maybe 227 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: on the potential hiring side. 228 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 2: You never given a pip to any of your unicorn 229 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 2: squads because you don't have no girl. 230 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why there's so many of them are 231 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: going now and the amazing ones are here. Hey, girls, 232 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: that's shade. I didn't know I was. I didn't know 233 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: how to lead as well as I I let a 234 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: lot of stuff slide, and so yes, you know, so 235 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: here we are now where you know that's not the 236 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: case now. Honestly, everybody's amazing and not the people were 237 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: really nice. But I did not know how to to 238 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: give constructive criticism, not criticism Cristucks, constructive critique of work. 239 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: So I just let saying things slide and then said 240 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: I just took on that burgeon for myself until I 241 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: wore myself out, which is not good. But I'll just say, 242 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: as somebody who hires people that yes, I you know, 243 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: obviously I'm wanting you to be honest. But to Mandy's point, 244 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: not to the detriment of yourself. You know, you're here 245 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: to sell yourself basically, you know, and if I know that, ultimately, 246 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: I'm not expecting it. You know how to do everything, 247 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: but I am expecting that you are willing to learn. 248 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: So if I hear that, like with Mandy, to Mandy's point, 249 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, you know, here's where you know, 250 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: maybe I had some challenges, but I'm someone who I 251 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 1: took this class, I learned this, I did this, And 252 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: to Mandy's point, like one of my one of the 253 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: things I love, like so much for about the people 254 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: on my team is they're constantly taking courses and classes 255 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: and learning and beyond what you know, like what I'm sharing, 256 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: you know, like Logan, I mean there's always a class 257 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: Logan's taken a Eekeisa was just telling me, oh, yeah, 258 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: I took a class on that. I'm like, that's why 259 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: they're here and why they continue to excel, because the 260 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: key is even beyond working with me, like the team, 261 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: they when you do that, you get to gather skill 262 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: sets that makes you marketable across the board. 263 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. 264 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: So it's like there's a win for you and making 265 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,200 Speaker 1: yourself better because even if the budgetessa doesn't exist, they 266 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: can go on and be great other places. And so 267 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: that's just a really good advice that made it gave 268 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: you so hope. 269 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 2: You mean in you can't be in the passenger seat 270 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: when it comes to your career. You need to get 271 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: that steering wheel girl and drive it yourself and go 272 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: into jobs. Yes, ready to perform and ready to like listen, 273 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: but you can't expect your manager to teach you every 274 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 2: single thing. You know, take some ownership, and take some 275 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: ownership proactive yourself and raise in doing your own research. 276 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: And as you're falling behind in a skill like finding 277 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: a way to get caught up without just being telling 278 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: your boss like I don't get. 279 00:14:08,440 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 1: At Yeah, that is the worst. It's like, yeah, and 280 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: I'm saying this that like doctor Green. My therapist share 281 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 1: with me this a couple of weeks ago, which I 282 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: was like, it was a great aha moment. She said 283 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: that you are you cannot help when something happens to you, right, 284 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: So something bad happens to you. That is not your fault, 285 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: but at some point you have to take responsibility of 286 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: how you choose to live your life. Yeah, so like 287 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: you know, so, okay, I have an unresponsive boss, got 288 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: out such a fault, but you have to take responsibility, 289 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 1: like knowing that I'm not going to get support here, 290 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: what do I need to do? You do have a 291 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: choice there, and so all of us have those choices 292 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: that within this framework. If I can't do all the things, 293 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: but I can't do this thing, are you at least 294 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: doing that thing? So I want to take a quick 295 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: break so we can answer our next question. But real 296 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: quick before we take a break, I know we probably 297 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: have maybe like a I don't know, maybe a few 298 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: copies left, a few hundred copies left. We'll see. But 299 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: if you go to Maid Whole Workbook dot com, y'all know, 300 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: I have a new workbook, the workbook version of Get 301 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Good with Money. It is signed and it comes to 302 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: the green bracelet. I signed about five thousand of them 303 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: last time I checked. You know, over half of them 304 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: where had already been sold. Hopefully there's still some left. 305 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 1: While you're listening to this, if you like a copy 306 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: of Maid Whole, because you're like, you know what. I 307 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: want to reach financial wholeness and ten easy steps. I 308 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: want to work along in a workbook with Tiffany guiding 309 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: me step by step of what to do when it 310 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: comes to budgeting, savings, debt, credit earning, investing, insurance, net worth, 311 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: your financial team, and estate planning. If you want all that, 312 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: Maid Whole workbook dot com, get your signed copy, get 313 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: your bracelet, get started. Okay, we'll be back and black 314 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: and brown and we're back. 315 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 2: Okay. 316 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: Our second question today is from Sad Sad. She says, Hey, ladies, 317 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: I love Brown ambition and listen every week. I had 318 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: a relatively successful YouTube channel and I got really good 319 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 1: at audio and video editing. 320 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 2: Love that for you. 321 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: A content production company hired me to do editing for 322 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: them with an amazing salary. But after I got the job, 323 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: my boss asked me to stop doing my own channel 324 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: because a conflict of interest and my content was pretty controversial. 325 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: Oh what you mean is that fair? I never signed 326 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: a non compete, and if he told me this from 327 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: the beginning, I'm not sure I would have taken it. 328 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: I love my new job, but I feel sad about 329 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: I feel sad without my own YouTube that I work 330 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: so hard on. Please give me some advice. Ooh, you 331 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: are between a rock and a hard place. First of all, 332 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: is it fair? Let's answer that question absolutely not, you know, 333 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: like they well, here's the thing. Is it fair for 334 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: them to spring this on you after already giving you 335 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: that job? No, because they knew who he works? Is 336 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 1: you know, like that's yes? You know, so that they 337 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: probably reached out to you because of your you know, 338 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: your editing skills and like what they saw there which 339 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: asking you to shift like beforehand, it's one thing that 340 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: way you can make an educated decision based upon this 341 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: is what's being offered to me. But asking you after 342 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: having you locked in that is quite unfair and unprofessional 343 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: of them. And so I here's the thing you're gonna 344 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 1: have to decide. I don't know what your money's looking 345 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: like and how like by successful what do you mean 346 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: financially successful your YouTube channel? And kind of like what's 347 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: your desired outcome in the long run, like what you're 348 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: wanting Like are you wanting to work for yourself? Are 349 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: you wanting to to you know, eventually do maybe freelance 350 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: when it comes to video conduct production? You know, and 351 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: if that is the case, you might decide I'm going 352 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 1: to stay with them for a specific amount of time 353 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,919 Speaker 1: until I can save up another money so I can 354 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: strike back out on my own. I don't want you 355 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: to not have your own creative outlet. And just because 356 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: you don't post them live doesn't mean you still can't create. 357 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: And so consider if it was me, honestly, I probably 358 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 1: would continue to create. Maybe I would not make those 359 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 1: things live because I want to just keep my skill 360 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: set home, and I'd be hatching a plan to leave. 361 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: That's probably what I would do. It's like, you know, 362 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: it's up to you, obviously, but I'd be like, Okay, 363 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay here for six months or a year 364 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,359 Speaker 1: or whatever it is until I can save up this 365 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: amount of money. I'm gonna live below my means, save 366 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: up a certain amount of money so I can strike 367 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: out on my own, and maybe I can be my 368 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: own video production company for other people. Because now I 369 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: know how to do this, I'm going to let them pay. 370 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: Me to learn. 371 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: You know, this business that they're in, because I we are. 372 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: Life is sad enough, you know, And if you have 373 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: this amazing outlet to lean into, I hate for you 374 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: to see that to I would hate for that to go. 375 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: But at the same time, we're adults. We have to 376 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: pay bills and we have to you know, main like 377 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: the financial parts of our lives. So I wouldn't just 378 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: jump out the window when it came to this, I 379 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: would be planning of how do I have both? You know, 380 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: like how do I have some financial security, but how 381 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: do I be able to live it and do the 382 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: thing I want to do? 383 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: Yeah? I have direct And that's the reason I kind 384 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: of got a heavy, like a heavy sigh with this 385 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: question because it brought up for me a feeling that 386 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 2: I have when employed. You know what I'm talking about 387 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 2: that I have been in the shoes of someone who 388 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: was hired because they have this great platform and you 389 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: know in social media and all that kind of stuff, 390 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: and the person who hires you thinks it's great. But 391 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 2: then you get into the company and there's other opinions. 392 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: There's people who didn't you know know, maybe they're like, oh, yeah, 393 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: someone's so and so hired a new video person. That's great, 394 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 2: but then they find out about maybe your YouTube channel 395 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 2: and then it offends them or something that you said 396 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: runs a rub someone the wrong way. And they are 397 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: a senior executive and it gets up the chain and 398 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, it wasn't a problem when you 399 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: were hired because your hurry manager had no problem with it. 400 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: But the huge mistake that they made was not getting 401 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 2: the proper you know, approvals and having other people at 402 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 2: the company way in are we okay with this? Et cetera. 403 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 2: So I'm really sorry that that happened to you. But 404 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: I think if you're going to try to do any 405 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 2: full time work, you have to be aware that of 406 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 2: that and be like, listen, I'm comfortable, but I will 407 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: not be signing a non compete. I need assurance that 408 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: my show content is fine. That's if you want to 409 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: stay nine to five. And I get why you would. 410 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like Tiffany said, the you know, you're 411 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 2: learning the industry, You're getna get paid a reliable income. Hey, 412 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 2: it's nice over there in W two land. I miss 413 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: it sometimes, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, you're 414 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 2: gonna have this problem, especially if you continue. If you're 415 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: if your side hustle, your business overlaps with what you're 416 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: doing nine to five. Conflict of interest is like always 417 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: potentially going to be an issue that you're gonna run into. 418 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: So what I would say is right now, is is 419 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: there an option other than like what I like what 420 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 2: TIFs are actually about sticking it out, maybe pausing the 421 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: YouTube but still continuing to create the content. But then 422 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: you know, looking for a way out saving up coins 423 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,159 Speaker 2: that you can branch out getting some clients of your 424 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 2: own contract on a contract basis, and you know what, 425 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: this company could potentially be your first contract client as 426 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: a instead of working full time, because the key to 427 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 2: you working with them but not being a full time 428 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 2: employee could just be the fact that you are a freelancer, 429 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: you're not full time. So you could propose, you know, 430 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: down the line, or maybe even now, if you feel 431 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: like you're comfortable with it, propose a solution where you're like, listen, 432 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 2: I'm not going to be stopping my YouTube channel if 433 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 2: that's if that means that you know it's going to 434 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: be an issue for me being a full time employee, 435 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 2: can we talk about, you know, moving me to a 436 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 2: contract basis and then you can come up with a 437 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 2: you know, a contract fee, a sorry, a contract salary 438 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: instead of you know, like whatever you're making. And yeah, 439 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: there's like pros and cons to that. But if you 440 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 2: have your own IP, you want to protect that as 441 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 2: much as you can and just be aware of it 442 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 2: as you move through these corporate streets that they can 443 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: and they will shut it down if there's any risk 444 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 2: that it's going to make them look bad. Because you 445 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: join their company, you represent them, and that's what they're 446 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 2: thinking when they put out these non competes and such 447 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 2: conflict of interest I mean, sorry, conflict of interest clauses. 448 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and now you know you know what I mean, 449 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: Like you know, like there are worse positions to be 450 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: and it's like sometimes you just got to like, you know, 451 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: a bit your time, Like, Okay, that was cute, you 452 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: caught that. Let me just get myself together so I 453 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: can go back to what I love to do. But 454 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: I get to learn and get to make some money. 455 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 1: I get to stack a little something. Yeah, and then 456 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: you might decide. I mean, it's really up to you. 457 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: But what I I'm never gonna encourage anyone to give 458 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 1: up a thing that they love if they don't have to. 459 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially if you're making money off of it. Keep 460 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: going man for woman. 461 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: Well, sad YouTuber, hopefully you're a little less sad. Maybe 462 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: you're just grumpy, you know, maybe a little forlorn, you know, 463 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: hopefully happier and joyfuler who want to be joyful. 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Love 474 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: when you tag all three of us the pod cast 475 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: as well as the three of us. I'm like, oh, 476 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: look at me, I'm tagged Twitter X. This is the 477 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: tweater wether. It's Twitter X. Until next week, we will 478 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: see you, bye y'all