1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to How the Money. I'm Joel and I and 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Matt and today we're talking about the crypto crash, tapping 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: your home's equity, and vaccination lotteries. That's right, Joel. We're 4 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: gonna cover those stories as well as several others that 5 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: we came across this week. We're gonna talk about how 6 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: these stories impact our money. And first, by the way, 7 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: are you surviving the the gasoline shortage? Have you guys 8 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: been able to drive around town the gas apocalypse? Basically? Yeah, no, 9 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: it's it was weird driving around this week, and I 10 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: kept my eye on the stats to see kind of, 11 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: you know, what the gas supplies were doing around the country, 12 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: but in Atlanta too, and um, it turns out more 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: and more gas stations are getting gas here, but you know, 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: there's still still a bunch that don't have any. So 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,639 Speaker 1: you didn't have to fill up. Homer, that's your that's 16 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: the name of your vans, right, Homer, Mine is how 17 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, ours basically sat in the driveway all weeks. Yeah, same, 18 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 1: Like we don't drive very much. So really I've literally 19 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: filled up Sunday morning before things really hit the fan. 20 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: And um, and so yeah, we were were good. We're 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: sitting party. I think we're still sitting at three quarters 22 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: of a tank, so okay, might not need any for 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: I don't know, two or three weeks now. Yeah, we're 24 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: similar to y'all, dude. We are incredibly fortunate. I mean, 25 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: you live right down the street from us. Our kids 26 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: go to school locally here as well, and you know, 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: we pick our kids up on the bike as well, 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: and so we're fortunate that we hardly ever drive. And 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: I was actually looking back the past couple of years 30 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: and on the average, we filip a van less than 31 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 1: once a month. Uh, if we're not going out of town. Obviously, 32 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: if you go to town, you know you're filling it 33 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: up a couple of times, depending on where you're driving. 34 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: But but man, I really do love the fact that 35 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: we are not driving around in our vehicles, spending money 36 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: on gasoline, spending time in the car, and that so 37 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: much of our lives we are able to, you know, 38 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: accomplish by means of bicycle, but you know, cargo bikes 39 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: in particular. Yeah for sure. Yeah, I um me too, 40 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: Like I miss having an electric vehicle right now, Like 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: when something like this happens, when gas prices are insane 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: or their gas is hard to find. But also too, 43 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: it's like, well, we don't really drive all that frequently, 44 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: so it doesn't impact us like it does other people 45 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: who are commuting a whole lot of the time. And Matt, 46 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: you mentioned cargo bikes, and I just wrote an article 47 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: new article up on how the Money dot Com about 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: rad Wagons, which is the bike that I own, and 49 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: why I think they are so superb so wonderful. So yeah, 50 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: if anybody out there is like, wait a second, I 51 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: want I need one of those in my life. I 52 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: don't want to be beholding to gas shortages and I 53 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: want to save money and live awesomer what you do, 54 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: what you do with a radwagon or really just any 55 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: I think some of those electric bikes are just good 56 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: choices for a lot of folks. Go check that article out. 57 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: Will also put it in the show notes for today's episode. 58 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: That's right, But Matt, let's move on Friday Flight. It's 59 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: a quick sampling of stories we found interesting this week. 60 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: And you know we talked about inflation on Wednesday's episode. Well, 61 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: the n f i B, which is a small business 62 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: association hold its members, just saw this stat after that 63 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: episode got released, and they found that close to thirty 64 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: five of small businesses plan on raising prices in the 65 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: near future. So that's nearly double the number of small 66 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: businesses that typically are looking to raise their prices. And 67 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: so this might be another omen that things are going 68 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: to be noticeably more expensive in the coming months. And 69 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: I think some of what we talked about actually on 70 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 1: that episode, we are starting to notice some of those 71 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: some of those price upward price pressures right now. Um, 72 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: the question is how long do they stick around? But yeah, 73 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: technically this is inflation, but is it all bad news? 74 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: Like if you want to know more, UM, check out 75 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: Wednesday's episode where we kind of dove in deep on 76 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: that sem nerity topic and trying to make it a 77 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: little approachable to trying to make it a little less 78 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: nerdy for all of our listeners out there. Do let's 79 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: talk about the vaccine. But first, if if you were 80 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: to boil down behavioral economics into one word, we'd probably 81 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: say incentives, right that they essentially make the world go around. 82 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: Uh So, for instance, like would you leave your job, well, 83 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: probably you know, if the incentives from another employer, if 84 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: they were good enough, would you get vaccinated if you 85 00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: live in Ohio, well, winning one million dollars might make 86 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: that more likely. That might help get me off the couch. Seriously. 87 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: The governor of Ohio, Mike DeWine, he announced that there 88 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: will be five weekly one million dollar drawings for folks 89 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: who have received at least one of their shots, which 90 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: is really cool. It's definitely better than the free donut 91 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: that Krispy Kreme is offering. Even though we still love 92 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: Krispy Kreame and even though I still have not yet 93 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: been able to take advantage of that promotion because shacks 94 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: Krispykreme burned down. You know, man, that the we have 95 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: to run out of gas on our way to get 96 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: a Krispy Creme donut, it wouldn't be worth it. Yeah, seriously, 97 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: So if you live in Ohio, make sure you get 98 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 1: that first shot. If you haven't already by next Wednesday, 99 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: that's when that first drawing is going to be. Yeah. 100 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: I love this idea to Matt, like trying to incentivize 101 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: people because this is good for all of us. Like, 102 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: the more people to get vaccinated in this country, the 103 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: better off we're all going to be healthwise, and the 104 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: more quickly we can resume completely normal life hopefully. So yeah, 105 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: I'm already kind of excited about some of the ways 106 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: that our lives are starting to feel a little more 107 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,799 Speaker 1: like they used tom But speaking of lotteries, Matt, reading 108 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: about that this week made me think of savings lotteries, 109 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: and you mentioned incentives. That reminds me of something that 110 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: Michigan has been doing for a whole lot of years. 111 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: They've kind of been in like the pioneer um when 112 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: it comes to prize linked savings accounts UM and so 113 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: basically in Michigan, in an effort to get folks to 114 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: save more money, they began offering bigger prizes for each 115 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: twenty five dollars that you were able to save, so 116 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: you could win maybe like a thousand dollars or five 117 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: thousand dollars through some sort of lottery and you essentially 118 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: got more lottery tickets the more money you put in 119 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: your savings account. So it's just this incentive to push 120 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 1: you towards saving more of your money. More money in 121 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: the bank means you have a higher likelihood of weathering 122 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: any sort of small financial stom that might come your way, right, 123 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: So it's good good for you, and you know if 124 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: you win one of those prizes, it's even better for 125 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: really good Yeah, and so Michigan kind of started this 126 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: thing out, but then, uh, something we've talked about. Maybe 127 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: he wants on the show, but it's been a while. 128 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 1: YadA started doing something similar in recent years on like 129 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: a bigger scale. And this is an online bank that 130 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: you can check out. They pay you point to percent 131 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: on your money. So it's not tops in the market 132 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: because you can still get half a percent at a 133 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: few of the online banks, but it's not awful. But 134 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: the cool thing about YadA is that on top of 135 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: that saving story that they're paying you, you also get 136 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: tickets that are going to enter you in to win 137 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: potentially bigger prizes based on how much you're saving um 138 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: and we so we love to see good incentives like this, 139 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: like what YadA is doing, what Ohio is doing, because yeah, 140 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: when you, like you said, mat when you boil down economics, 141 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: it's all about incentives. Like how we incentivize people, they're 142 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: going to react accordingly. And so yeah, if you're banking 143 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: somewhere like YadA, you're in all likelihood going to be 144 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: so excited about the fact that you could win a 145 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: huge amount of money by getting some of these essentially 146 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: lottery tickets for saving more money. Those are the good 147 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: kind of incentives that we're we're all about. Yeah, let's 148 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 1: talk about taxes. Uh. You know, we talked about a 149 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: new monthly child tax credit months ago after the American 150 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: Rescue Plan was passed. Payments they haven't started yet, but 151 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: it was announced on Monday that those payments will begin 152 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 1: on July. Most families that qualify have direct deposits set 153 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: up with the I r S already h and they're 154 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: going to receive their funds there automatically. So yeah, I 155 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: look out for that this summer. Uh. Basically, families are 156 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: going to be receiving three hundred dollars a month for 157 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: kids under the age of six, and then two hundred 158 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: and fifty dollars for kids ages six to eighteen, and 159 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: those increased payment amounts will be phased out for families 160 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: that earn over a hundred and fifty thousand dollars, as 161 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: well as for individuals that earned seventy five dollars or more. 162 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: If you're not sure how much you should be getting, 163 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: the Washington Post actually has this little sweet little calculator 164 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: that will link to where you can enter in your information. 165 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: They don't store it, and it will let you know 166 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 1: about how much money you should be receiving. Super easy 167 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: to find that out. Matt, I just adopted eighteen children 168 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 1: in order to take advantage of this incentives. It's all 169 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: about incentives, right, centives in tax fraud. So I didn't 170 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: actually do that. But um, yeah, let's talk about credit 171 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: scores for a second, Mat, you and I we've we've 172 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: talked about the the imperfections in the credit scoring industry before. 173 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: Um not necessarily huge fans of the big three credit bureaus, 174 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: they don't do a great job. But yeah, we've also 175 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: talked about the fact that fifty three million adults in 176 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: the United States don't even have a credit score, which, um, yeah, crazy, 177 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: It is crazy. And there's ways in which our listeners 178 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: and we talk about how you should approach your credit 179 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: score and how it's really important. But at the same time, 180 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people left out in the cold 181 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to credit scores. And too, we've mentioned 182 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: that some fintech companies have been successful attracting good customers 183 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: who don't have credit scores and instead of checking their 184 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: credit score to give them credit, they find other ways 185 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: to verify that this person is going to be a 186 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 1: good borrower. Yeah, I mean that's the catch twenty two 187 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: with credit scores and credit cards, right, Like, you have 188 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: to have a credit score in order to get a 189 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: credit card, but you typically can't build up your credit 190 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: score unless you have some form of credit, like a 191 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: credit card. That's one of those tough cycles to kind 192 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: of break into little chicken and eggs sort of things. Yeah, well, 193 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: unfortunately that might no longer be the case. You know. 194 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal actually just reported that some of 195 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: the largest banks JP, Morgan Chase well as Fargo, are 196 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: going to start factoring in other information like how much 197 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: money you have in your savings account and whether or 198 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: not you ever overdraft your account, which is definitely not good. 199 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: Don't overdraft your account. The fees are bad, and then 200 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: it's going to affect affect your ability then too in 201 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: the future get a credit card potentially um and so, Yeah, 202 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: instead of relying solely on that three digit credit score, 203 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: they're going to be using some of these other methods, 204 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: kind of like some of these newer fintech companies have 205 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: been doing. And so they let's say you applied for 206 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: a Chase credit card in the future, but you have 207 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: a savings account with Wells Fargo. Please don't actually have 208 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: a savings account with Falls Fargo, because it's not what 209 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: we would recommend. They're awful. But yeah, let's say that. Yeah, 210 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: the banks will essentially chat with one another behind the scenes, 211 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: and they'll provide each other the relevant information that's needed 212 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: so that a credit check can be avoided altogether. Yeah, 213 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,719 Speaker 1: and that's good news, right. The credit bureaus aren't all 214 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: that trustworthy in our opinion, Like you mentioned all, there 215 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: are mistakes and a whole lot of credit files from 216 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: the latest CFPB numbers one in five mistakes on it that, Um, 217 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: you know, that's not good, Like it's pretty pathetic. Yeah, 218 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: but you know, here's the thing, though, that doesn't mean 219 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 1: that you should stop paying attention to your credit score. 220 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: They're will likely be some major changes to the credit 221 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: scoring model in the coming years, but knowing your credit 222 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 1: score and making sure that it's in the solid to 223 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: excellent range that will still have a positive impact on 224 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: your life for years to come. But at least for now, 225 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: you know, this is a good step in the right 226 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: direction for many folks who otherwise have had a hard 227 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: time getting access to the financial products uh and resources 228 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 1: that they need. By the way, we mentioned some of 229 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: those errors on your credit reports. You can still get 230 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: free weekly reports at annual credit report dot com all 231 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 1: the way until April two. There you go. All right, 232 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: we got more to get to, including we're gonna talk 233 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: about the crypto crash that happened this week, Bitcoin ethereum, 234 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: just a lot of news in the crypto space, what 235 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: Matt and I think about it. We'll get to that 236 00:10:51,960 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: and more right after this break. Al Right, we are 237 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: back in jail. Before we get to the crypto crash 238 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: or the bitcoin blip as we were calling it the 239 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: other days, we have our ludicrous headline of the week. 240 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: You know that was weak, That's what that was. Tag 241 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: onto it a little bit there. Uh So every week 242 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: we we find a headline that is just either completely ridiculous, 243 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: something ludicrous that we disagree with, or just something that's 244 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: just really far out there. That's an interesting idea on 245 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: something that pertains to our money. And this one comes 246 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: to us via CNBC UH and it goes something like 247 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: home equity hits a record high. Here's how to tap 248 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: your house for cash. By the way, I gotta say 249 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: I love CNBC's website, but they they're probably the worst 250 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: defender when it comes to the ludicrous headlines. They do 251 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: a good job presenting a lot of information, but then 252 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: sometimes the headlines can be just a little crazy, feel 253 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: like they're trying I mean, they're positioning it in a 254 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 1: way that might lead people to make bad decisions, Like 255 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: if you only read the headline, you do something dumb, exactly. 256 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: And so, just because your house has gone up in value, 257 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that you should grab that money and 258 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: start spending it. Right, just because you can doesn't mean 259 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: you should. And so if you are a homeowner in 260 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: your home's value has gone up substantially over the last 261 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: couple of years or maybe even longer, how should you 262 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: be thinking about that accumulated wealth? Us personally, we're we're 263 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: fans of actually not thinking about it for the most part, 264 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: pretending it doesn't exist. Yeah, we try to try to 265 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: forget that it exists. We let it sit there, dormant. 266 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: And you know, the only time we're we're fans of 267 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: using the equity you've built up is when you're tapping 268 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: it to invest. Uh, specifically, like in real estate or 269 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, maybe when you need to mix some improvements 270 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: on your home because that's value that you're tapping out 271 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: of your house, but that you're also able to increase 272 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: your house by a similar amount. By the way, you 273 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: might want to hold off doing that because lumber prices 274 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: are still really high. But that's one of the only 275 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 1: instances where we, you know, might say that it's okay 276 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: to tap that equity in your home. The rest of 277 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: them are pretty much a no go in our book. Yeah, vacations, 278 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: no way, don't use your home equity for that. Matt. 279 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: There was an article actually an NPR this week about 280 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: this guy because lumber prices are so insane, he made 281 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: his own all mill. He's like nice, Yeah, so he's 282 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: I know, it's impressive. He's he's gets like free trees 283 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: from some company I guess where he lives who they're 284 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: cutting him down and so and then he's able to, yeah, 285 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: with his homemade sawmill, make lumber for the stuff he's 286 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: trying to build. Yeah, that was a very hardcore, But 287 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: I'm definitely not going to that extent to save money 288 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: on on wood. But yeah, I agree with you, your 289 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: homes value should not be used as an a t M. Right. 290 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 1: I think one other reason to potentially take some equity 291 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: out of your house might be to pay off higher 292 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 1: interest rate debts. But you've also got to know the 293 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: downsides before doing that. A lot of people just like 294 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: do that and then and they think that there's no 295 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,959 Speaker 1: problem with taking out money from your home to pay 296 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: off credit card debt. But what happens in that case 297 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: is that you're paying off unsecured debt and turning it 298 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: into debt against your home secured debt. And in the 299 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 1: event that you're not able to pay your credit card bill, 300 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: that's not very good. That stinks. But not being able 301 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: to pay your mortgage after a cash out REFI that 302 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: means you could lose your house and that's a big deal. 303 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, tapping your home equity has gotten more difficult 304 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: to as some of the larger banks have stopped offering 305 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 1: home equity lines of credit and other lenders have raised 306 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: credit score requirements for refis. So yeah, just know that 307 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna see headlines telling you, hey, your house is 308 00:14:16,160 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 1: worth way more than it's ever been worth before. What 309 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: are you gonna do with that home equity? And we 310 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: would say in most cases like leave it be just 311 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: let us sit there right. You don't want to touch 312 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: that equity. And that being said, you might be a 313 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: good candidate for a refinance if you have a higher 314 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: interest rate. It's still a great time these days to refinance. 315 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: And so we talked about that back in episode one 316 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: seven to refi or not to refi? In that episode 317 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 1: we talked through all the different reasons that you might 318 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: want to consider things to think about the way to 319 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: go about refinancing your home, and now it is a 320 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: great time to do that. We took that hamlet approach 321 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: with the title of that episode two. It's true, um, Jill. 322 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: And actually, since we're talking about housing, Americans say that 323 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: housing that it's a better long term investment than stocks. 324 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: This is according to a a new Gallop poll. Uh. 325 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: And so let's dissect this is uh. It seems that 326 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: recency bias seems to be why real estate is the 327 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: answer being given this year. Housing prices have obviously been 328 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: on a tear. But the number one answer like a 329 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: while ago, back in two thousand eleven and two thousand twelve, 330 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: to this question like what's what is the best long 331 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: term investment? The answer was gold in two thousand eight 332 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: and two thousand nine, it was savings that count. So basically, 333 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: what people think is the best long term investment is 334 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: tied directly to what's happening right now, but the current 335 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: state of things has essentially no impact on what will 336 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: make you the most money over the decades. I'm gonna 337 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: coin a new term. I'm gonna call this the investing 338 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: object permanence. Folks are completely forgetting about something as soon 339 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: as it's not directly in front of them. It's ridiculous. Yeah, 340 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's totally recency bias is exactly what it is. 341 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: It's like seeing the latest thing happening, and it's it's 342 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: like when we when when you watch a great sports 343 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 1: player and you forgot how good from the older ones 344 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: were people like, oh, he's the greatest of all time, 345 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: And maybe he or she is, but I don't know, man, 346 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: think there's some great player US thirt or four years ago. 347 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: We just automatically assume that what's happening right now is 348 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: the most relevant, but it's that's not always the case. 349 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: So what actually is the best long term investment? That's 350 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: a good question. Stocks, on average garner higher returns than 351 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: real estate, over the long haul, your property is historically 352 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: likely going to appreciate at a rate close to four 353 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: and a half percent on an annual basis, whereas owning 354 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: the total stock market has historically returned ten percent. That's 355 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: the number before inflation. And that's a big gap. Right. Uh, 356 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: those recent gains in your home, they're not going to 357 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: be the norm in the long term, over like a 358 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: thirty year period. But in another way, the folks who 359 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: gave the real estate answer on this survey, Matt, they're 360 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: actually going onto something. The real estate can I think 361 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 1: be a better investment than stocks and so, but that 362 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: all boils down to only if you know what you're doing. 363 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: It's it's harder to find a deal in the stock 364 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: market than it is to find a deal in your 365 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: local real estate market. Finding a property that's undervalued or 366 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: that you can force aitiation into can steeply change returns, 367 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: chu can Garner. So, when we're talking about just like 368 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: literally the historic rise in home prices first the historic 369 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: rise in the stock market, that assumes that everything is equal, 370 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: but you can find so many more inconsistencies in housing 371 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: prices than you can in stock prices. Um at least 372 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: from what I've experienced, and I've seen so many real 373 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: estate investors do this. Well, that's the thing about like 374 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: buying ugly houses and putting some sweat equity into them, 375 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: and how you can make really really good returns when 376 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: you know how to do that. But when we're talking 377 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: about investing in the market or buying a single family 378 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: home for you to live in, the market's gonna win, 379 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: at least in the long term. Alright, dude, let's talk 380 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 1: about crypto. Let's talk about that bitcoin blip. The cryptocurrency 381 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: space continues to show that volatility is still a major issue. 382 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: Bitcoin prices plunged on Tuesday and Wednesday morning before finally 383 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: recovering some of their losses. And you know, we've talked 384 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: before on the show, how I have some money invested 385 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 1: in bitcoin in ethereum as well, but small amounts, small, 386 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 1: very small amouns. Yeah, but am I worried? No, I 387 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: just some crypto earlier in the year, And you know, 388 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit down and see how things 389 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: are looking until at least twelve months after those purchases 390 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: were made. Personally, I don't care how the roller coaster 391 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: like volatility is impacting my balance in the day to 392 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: day because I'm not in it to make a quick 393 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: buck in the short term. I'm not in it for 394 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: the days, in the weeks. I'm in it for like 395 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 1: the years and in the decades potentially, right. Uh. And 396 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, it also doesn't really matter because, like you said, 397 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: I don't have much money invested in crypto at all. 398 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: If you're stressing out and you're worried, well, that's actually 399 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: probably a sign that you have too much writing on crypto, 400 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,680 Speaker 1: and that's not what we would recommend. Yeah, and so yeah, 401 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 1: that what caused you know, the crypto crash or the 402 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: bitcoin blip is kind of like people have different takes 403 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: on that, a lot of potential reasons. Yeah, And and 404 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: Elon Musk being one of those potential reasons. He's like always, 405 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: it's always it's amazing to me how one of the 406 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: world's regis dude can be like the biggest Twitter troll 407 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: of all time at the same time. But it's it's 408 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: it's like, get a life, dude, Yeah, what are you doing? Man? 409 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I think what you said, Matt is 410 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: not having too much writing on it. That's such an 411 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: important factor in this conversation because really you're if you 412 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: if you do want to invest in crypto, if you 413 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: do believe it's the future, if you do believe that 414 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to make outsized returns on cryptocurrency 415 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 1: over the coming decades, that's okay. But we would suggest 416 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: investing at most five percent of your overall portfolio into 417 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: that space because of the volatility and because there's a 418 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: whole lot of speculation going on. And I think, yeah, 419 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,399 Speaker 1: if you were freaking out earlier this week, that is 420 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: a sign that you probably have too much invested in 421 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: that space. Um. And on that note, Matt that the 422 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 1: FTC came out this week and said that cryptocurrency scams 423 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: are continuing to become a problem. They actually rose over 424 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,439 Speaker 1: a thousand percent based on last year's numbers, and they 425 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: cost Americans eighty million dollars. So yeah, with this like 426 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: massive spotlight on crypto the scam artist, obviously they're they're 427 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 1: flocking to fleece folks where they are, and yeah, they're 428 00:19:56,680 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: they're offering promising returns that are too good to be true. 429 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: And then in an interesting trend too, it seems like 430 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: scams often target older folks in our society, but crypto 431 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: scams are particularly ensnaring people in their twenties, thirties, and forties. 432 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: They're they're five times more likely than older folks to 433 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 1: have lost money due to investment in cryptocurrency scams. And 434 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: so yeah, you might think you're young and tech savvy, 435 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: but especially in this new budding space, you're you're more 436 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: susceptible than you realize to some of these scams. So yeah, 437 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: people who are into crypto, just be aware. Make sure 438 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: you're doing your due diligence before you click on a 439 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: link or before you decide to invest in That's right. Uh, 440 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: And one last Storagel. According to the Wall Street Journal, 441 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: ninety new airlines are launching in ninety like like Zo's. 442 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: I would not have predicted that, especially a year ago 443 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: we saw all the news and I saw like Buffett 444 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: selling all his airlines stock. I would not have predicted 445 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: ninety airlines crazy this year. Yeah. Many of these new 446 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: airlines though, I mean, they're able to trim their startup costs, 447 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: Like that's a big reason why they're starting uh these days, Uh, 448 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, because of the pandemic and as we've been saying, 449 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: turbulent economic times like that that can be great for 450 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: starting a business, and after a year of very little travel, 451 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: there's a huge belief that travel is is actually is 452 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: coming back in a big way. And it's not just 453 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,199 Speaker 1: a belief anymore, because travelers actually are booking flights and 454 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: record numbers according to numbers from the t s A 455 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: the EU. Just this week they opened up their travel 456 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: restrictions and folks who are vaccinated can now fly. Uh so, yeah, 457 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: we're actually looking forward to seeing some of these changes 458 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: over the coming months. Yeah, but let's say you are 459 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: booking on an airline you've never flown before, because there's 460 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: a lot of new ones out there. Well, we're all 461 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: about seeing some of these new discount airlines launching. Some 462 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: of them are are big discounters, but be sure to 463 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: look closely at the fees that they charge before booking. 464 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 1: The initial fair Matt often looks just incredibly low, I think. 465 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: I mean, I remember when Spirit Air launched, people like 466 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,480 Speaker 1: you can get on an airplane for seven dollars or 467 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: nine dollars or whatever. It was like the easy Jet 468 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: for the US, that's right, But then a lot of 469 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: people found out it was too good to be true, 470 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: that like there was no leg room, and then there 471 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: was all these additional fees, and sometimes they ended up 472 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 1: paying just as much as they would have to fly 473 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: on a nicer, nicer airline. Makes me think, would would 474 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: you would you fly somewhere if you had to stay 475 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: in the whole time, like if they're totally would really 476 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: basically like taking a subway like but imagine on an airplane, 477 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: especially if it was like a shorter flight, like if 478 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: I was just flying an hour and a half two hours, 479 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't want to do like a cross country 480 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 1: trip like a four and a half five hour flying 481 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: on it. But yeah, shorter flights like I could handle 482 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: an hour two, I'd be up four, especially if it 483 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: meant big money savings. But yeah, yeah, I feel like 484 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: it was some of these discount airlines, Like the initial 485 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: fair looks low, but then the junk fees add up 486 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: in a big way bait and switch. Yeah, and you're 487 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: like a prap. But there are ways to avoid them too, 488 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: so yeah, just just make sure you you know what 489 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: they are, so then you can either choose to go 490 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: in a different direction or you can uh do your 491 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: best to avoid them. So like instead of um, bringing 492 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: a bag, checking a bag or even putting one in 493 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: the overhead been which a lot of airlines charge hoard 494 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: now to just take a backpack if you can instead, 495 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: and you can avoid some of those those fees. Also, 496 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 1: to don't pay to choose a seat. That's that's one 497 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: of those things that costs extra money too, And I'm like, 498 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: just place me anyone random here if it was like 499 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: it there, that's all I care about. Yeah. Yeah, Also 500 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: consider bringing your own snacks because yeah, airlines are now 501 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: charging for snacks most of the time, whether it's a 502 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: beverage or some chips. So doing all of those things 503 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: are gonna help you capitalize on some of the super 504 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: cheap fairs you're likely to see out there, while at 505 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: the same time avoiding some of those fees as are 506 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: gonna try to get you with. That's right, And we 507 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 1: are actually going to talk about travel some more on 508 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: Monday with our guest Nomadic Matt, who is a cheap 509 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: travel expert. So come back and check that one out 510 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: after the weekend. But yeah, Joel, that's gonna be it 511 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: for this episode. Be sure to head over to the 512 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: website where you can find our show notes, and that's 513 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: where we will have links to all of the stories 514 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: that we mentioned today, including that Radwagon article. Basically, I'm 515 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 1: trying to convert everyone to getting an electric cargo bike, 516 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 1: so that is, how do you get around town without 517 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: having to drive everywhere? Man? That's true, all right? So 518 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: I have a great weekend and Matt until next time. 519 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: Best friends out, Best Friends Out,