WEBVTT - Coulter Slams Biden’s Border as America’s #1 Problem

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<v Speaker 1>first guest, and Coulter. She has written thirteen New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times bestsellers, including a number of number one bestsellers. You

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<v Speaker 1>know her from well all of her appearances on TV,

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<v Speaker 1>from her fierce Twitter game, and of course because she

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<v Speaker 1>is the one and only end Coulter. Miss Coulter, thank

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<v Speaker 1>here tonight with you, Buck, here we go fantastic yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so and tell me some things here first and foremost,

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<v Speaker 1>what is top of mind for you in the country

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<v Speaker 1>right now if you could fix let's start with that

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<v Speaker 1>and fix one thing for me in America. What would

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<v Speaker 1>it be. We need a big, beautiful wall. I was

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<v Speaker 1>promised a big beautiful wall. But I mean, seriously, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason. That's what carried this buffoon, Donald Trump to

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<v Speaker 1>president in two thousand sixteen. Whether or not the talking

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<v Speaker 1>heads appreciated or the New York Times appreciated, Americans voted

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<v Speaker 1>for the big beautiful wall. And we're seeing under Biden

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<v Speaker 1>the problem with him not having built that wall. Estimates

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<v Speaker 1>are I mean, they've caught and released more than two

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<v Speaker 1>million illegals. The estimates go up to five million only

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<v Speaker 1>since Biden has been president. And I mean, there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of reasons not to like that with it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be suppressing, hurting the least among us those

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<v Speaker 1>low wage workers who actually, surprisingly I will admit, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pretty well under Trump. Why because you know, with these

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<v Speaker 1>temporary measures and a lot of it was just his rhetoric.

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<v Speaker 1>He scared off illegals from trying to come based on

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<v Speaker 1>the campaign, and then after you know, he was in

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<v Speaker 1>office for about a year they realized he's not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 1>We let's go back. But for the there's cultural reasons

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<v Speaker 1>to care about this. We are the greatest country in

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<v Speaker 1>the world and we do have So can I ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this in because you've been you were the original

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<v Speaker 1>on the argument here for well, first I mean first

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<v Speaker 1>secure border that involved a wall, and in fact, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>I believe early on was even telling people that he

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<v Speaker 1>read Audios America, your book, and that this is where

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<v Speaker 1>the idea for this largely largely came from. So I've

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<v Speaker 1>been down to the border a bunch of times, no question,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love this argument with libs. I've had it

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<v Speaker 1>with them and they always get very, very frustrated. A

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<v Speaker 1>wall helps And if you talk to border patrol, they'll

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<v Speaker 1>say it absolutely is helpful because even in areas where

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<v Speaker 1>the wall doesn't exist, there's fewer sorry, they can have

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<v Speaker 1>fewer resources where they have no you know, where they

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<v Speaker 1>have a wall versus where they have no wall, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so they can kind of focus in on the high

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<v Speaker 1>traffic areas of drugs. A high traffic problem though we

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<v Speaker 1>got even if we had a wall, they are surrendering.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what's going. So I want to know how

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<v Speaker 1>we deal with that issue because people are showing up.

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<v Speaker 1>The wall stops the drug traffickers, the single male migrants.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say stops, you know, makes it harder for them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and makes border patrol's job easier. But you have family

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<v Speaker 1>units that show up to the border wall or anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>and essentially walk in and they say, hey, here, I

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<v Speaker 1>am right. So and even in a wall situation, they

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<v Speaker 1>go to a port of entry, they go to areas

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, the wall isn't that big, they go

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<v Speaker 1>over it, and now they say, I want asylum in

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<v Speaker 1>your country. So what do we do about that? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we invent a time machine. We go back and make

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<v Speaker 1>up keeper's promises to things about what you just said. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>of course they're they're going to be some entry points,

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<v Speaker 1>but we want a big wall across the entire border,

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<v Speaker 1>not the thirty three miles that Trump built. I do

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<v Speaker 1>not think that if he had kept his promise, Biden

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<v Speaker 1>would have come in, and a Biden wouldn't have come in.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump would have won reelection if he had kept his promises.

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<v Speaker 1>But moreover, even if even if a Democrat didn't come in,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not going to rip down a wall. It took

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the Great Chinese Wall or the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Wall of China. That's why we want a wall, because

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<v Speaker 1>different administrations are going to have different policies and as

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<v Speaker 1>long as the border is open, and it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of well, does the president want to protect American

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<v Speaker 1>jobs or doesn't he want to protect American jobs? And

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<v Speaker 1>part of what the Democrats just hauling the millions upon

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<v Speaker 1>millions of illegals. In part of it is just a

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<v Speaker 1>response to Trump. We were always worried about that that

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<v Speaker 1>he can, on one hand, even back down, but he

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<v Speaker 1>was so borish about making the points from Adios America

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't need exactly make them in a Marquis

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<v Speaker 1>to Queensberry's way, but he took it to another level,

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<v Speaker 1>that whole Mexican rapist thing. Oh it's in my book,

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<v Speaker 1>but I would have phrased it slightly differently as I did.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reaction to Trump was was so the concern

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<v Speaker 1>was he could end up making it worse and destroying

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<v Speaker 1>these issues that a lot of people like but lots

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<v Speaker 1>of others have been working on for years and caring

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<v Speaker 1>about in the American people here about and I think

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen that with the whole Democratic Party. If Trump

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<v Speaker 1>was for it, we are against what Biden is doing

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<v Speaker 1>at the border. Obomb would never have done. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a This is an open border, I mean, right, if

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<v Speaker 1>we're being honest about it, they're doing everything they can

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure as many people as possible can stay

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, and there's no interior enforcement. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it has been funny. I'm sure you've seen the clips.

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<v Speaker 1>These are real lips. We're not. This is not a

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<v Speaker 1>joke in the sense that we're making this up. There

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<v Speaker 1>are migrants who show up and they say I'm here

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<v Speaker 1>because of Joe Biden. Right, they mean they're showing up

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<v Speaker 1>and they're straight up saying, oh no, the cartels have

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<v Speaker 1>told me this is a great time to get here

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<v Speaker 1>because of Joe Biden. Yes, and two other things. I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to mentionure in addition to changing the culture

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<v Speaker 1>and really being very harmful to low wage workers, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>we should care about low wage workers. The other reason

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats I am a reaction Trump. The other reason

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats want this is manifestly because they want Third

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<v Speaker 1>worlders to become US citizens and start voting. And what

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<v Speaker 1>effects will that have? Oh, Republicans keep telling me that Hispanics,

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<v Speaker 1>they're natural Republicans, natural Republicans. Well, oh my gosh, what

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<v Speaker 1>happened to California. I had a young kid. I'm starting

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<v Speaker 1>to a young kid this weekend. He was saying, I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't understand why Californians vote for Gavin Newsom, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's plurality Hispanic now and Hispanics may not like the

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<v Speaker 1>trans stuff if you pass film, they may not like

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<v Speaker 1>the abortion stuff, but they want welfare, they want the

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<v Speaker 1>government aid, and they know they're going to get that

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<v Speaker 1>from the Democrats. So the state that once gave us

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<v Speaker 1>Richard Nixon and Ronald Reagan, you couldn't get elected dog

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<v Speaker 1>catcher in California right now. And I mean, it's completely

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<v Speaker 1>insane the things that Gavin Newsom is doing in California.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of hope that the Democrats do move Biden aside.

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<v Speaker 1>Well be careful what you wish for, yea, But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the rest of the country is ready for

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin Newsom. Did you see Eric Adams? I always want

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<v Speaker 1>someone to explain this to me. Eric Adams is the

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<v Speaker 1>mayor of New York City, and I would I would

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<v Speaker 1>add not a good one just in case anyone's wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>we were supposed to be, Oh, he's going to clean

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<v Speaker 1>up all the streets and the problems that. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually not correct. But anyway, and it's really I

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<v Speaker 1>think because a lot of entrenched interests from the Democrat

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<v Speaker 1>machine in the City of New York are just no longer.

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<v Speaker 1>If people knew what's really going on in the District

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney's office and the woke loo to ticks who are

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<v Speaker 1>the rank and file in places like that, now, they

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<v Speaker 1>would they would flee for places where you could go,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, off grid and uh and you know, may

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<v Speaker 1>be sure that they had access to their own fresh

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<v Speaker 1>drinking water. But he went to the southern border, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's fascinating because he's there and migrants that

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<v Speaker 1>he met with said, oh, we hear you take great

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<v Speaker 1>care of us in New York, so we want to

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<v Speaker 1>go to New York. So you're an al Paso, you're

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<v Speaker 1>an illegal migrant. You're saying, well, I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to New York City. Meanwhile, New York City's mayor is

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<v Speaker 1>also telling everybody, we can't afford the illegal migrants anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>The city of Viewer can't afford them now. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think this is so interesting because I thought we weren't

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<v Speaker 1>allowed to say that they were a drain on public resources. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when when did we just stop to when did we

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<v Speaker 1>skip to all of a sudden legal migrants are really expensive? Right? No?

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean it does. I think it ought to

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<v Speaker 1>remind people what a total hero and genius the governor

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida is, Ron de Santos. That Martha's vineyard stunt

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<v Speaker 1>was the most brilliant political stunt. That's what real media

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<v Speaker 1>calls it, stunt, the most brilliant political stunt of my lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you have the very very very progressive gay governor

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<v Speaker 1>of Colorado doing the exact same thing. He's sending his

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<v Speaker 1>illegals to New York. And suddenly these liberal states that

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<v Speaker 1>in this home we believe, suddenly they get they get

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<v Speaker 1>a look at what it's like having the Third World

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<v Speaker 1>dumped in their towns and cities and schools and hospitals,

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<v Speaker 1>and not so himp to it. Now, one other thing

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention before the moment passes. Obviously, I

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<v Speaker 1>love our border security guards. They're the last people you

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<v Speaker 1>want to check with on what's needed at the border.

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<v Speaker 1>This used to drive me crazy when Trump would do it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to them, and you see, it's very important.

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<v Speaker 1>They want a wall they can see through. No, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't check with the people whose job will be made

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<v Speaker 1>obsolete by a big, beautiful wall. No, no no, no, we

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<v Speaker 1>can have breaks in it here. It don't just be

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<v Speaker 1>easier for us here. And look, I love them, but

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is like this. You don't want something that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to replace your job. You don't want. I mean you've

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<v Speaker 1>probably seen but and I mean even so, I've still

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<v Speaker 1>even even the double fence for example, people people do

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<v Speaker 1>so so the border patrol guys, when when I've spoken

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<v Speaker 1>them about, I've seen illegals crossing. I've seen the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing happen in real time. It's not hard because it's

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<v Speaker 1>happening constantly, thousands and thousands of people a day, and

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<v Speaker 1>because of the fence, they're slowed down. But there's always

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be ways to get through. I mean, so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying you're gonna need you need border patrol even with

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<v Speaker 1>the wall. Right, Like if you have a if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a moat and a high wall at your castle,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll still need knights to defend the castle. Otherwise, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no such thing as a wall that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>do the job entirely for it saying they will be

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<v Speaker 1>completely gone. But that's not that they are not experts

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<v Speaker 1>on how to keep people out of your country. You

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<v Speaker 1>know who are experts. Israel is an expert. Check with

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<v Speaker 1>them on their wall. The first year they put it

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<v Speaker 1>up illegal in ration one down by I believe ninety percent.

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<v Speaker 1>It may be more than ninety percent. That wasn't good

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<v Speaker 1>enough for Israel. So their wall goes deep, deep, deep

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<v Speaker 1>into the ground. Yes, they still have security guards and

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, they have detention cells. I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>have military. It's a military I've been to that border wall.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a militarized border full on. Yep. Well maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>should have them running our border checks. Put the Saudiast,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, are building a big fence too along

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<v Speaker 1>quite militarized, I'm sure, along with the YEMENI So not

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<v Speaker 1>the first time or the last time these sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>things have been happening. There's a big one that I

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<v Speaker 1>know of in China. There's a pretty famous one in

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<v Speaker 1>the northern England as well. So you know, walls, walls

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<v Speaker 1>you know how, there's this big thing about the speaker

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<v Speaker 1>of the house. I want to ask you something, you

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<v Speaker 1>know how these things there was all this bruha. However,

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<v Speaker 1>who the Speaker of the House is going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a part of me that was amazed at what

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<v Speaker 1>seemed like people caring so much about this. And I

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<v Speaker 1>to tell people things like, hey, there are things to

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<v Speaker 1>be fired up about, Like I think people should be

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<v Speaker 1>much more fired up about. How, you know, fentonyl not

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to the border thing, but fentyl is

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<v Speaker 1>a drug scourge that is far worse than anything we've

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen. In this country, and yet it's like not

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<v Speaker 1>something that's focused on the news. Meanwhile, the news focused

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<v Speaker 1>on the Speaker of the House issue with McCart Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you make of all that? Did you? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you care? Does it matter? Will it matter? My advice

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<v Speaker 1>is cut the cord, don't watch cable. I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>the only ones care. I generally have MSNBC on in

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<v Speaker 1>the background just so I can monitor the enemy. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's been pretty much January sixth. Oh there's and there

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<v Speaker 1>was UK Crane for a while, and there's been one

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<v Speaker 1>exciting new story that representative of Santos as at George

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<v Speaker 1>Santos know their cover and that like January sixth and

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<v Speaker 1>for the speaker vote. But then you would, you'd you'd

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<v Speaker 1>go out on the street and talk to normal people,

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<v Speaker 1>and no one, absolutely no one cared. Now as a

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<v Speaker 1>political you know, nut as we are, and probably a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of your listeners and my readers are.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think it was a great thing. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they got a lot of good concessions out of McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're a lot of great Republicans. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a few things that were stupid about it, but by

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<v Speaker 1>and large, I mean, we ended up avoiding having Dan

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<v Speaker 1>Crenshaw as head of Homeland Committee in the House. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing right there, And it's sort of it's

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<v Speaker 1>always good to scare Republican politicians, especially Republican politicians who

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<v Speaker 1>have been there for a while, the ones who would

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<v Speaker 1>like to go establishment. Listen to the donors. Give them

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<v Speaker 1>a good scare every once in a while. Yeah, brush

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<v Speaker 1>back pitch. I think I've learned a lot of sports

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<v Speaker 1>from Clay by the way we talk about these things now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm sort of like, yeah, that's a that's

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even think of anything off the top of

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<v Speaker 1>my head now, but that's a sports thing that people

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<v Speaker 1>get excited about. But a brush back pitch, that's one

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<v Speaker 1>that I know now, which I think is important for

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<v Speaker 1>some Republicans, especially of the more establishment variety. What happened

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<v Speaker 1>in your mind in the midterm election? What was the issue?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I've started to see now finally I think people

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<v Speaker 1>recognizing that there were some big problems. I know it

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<v Speaker 1>was a few months ago, but I think I got

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of your analysis. I wanted to hear a

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<v Speaker 1>little more of what you think went down. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>think too many people in the Republican Party, conservative media donors.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, as I've been trying to advise them, they've

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<v Speaker 1>just been too afraid of Trump, and they were too

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<v Speaker 1>what did to Trump? We have to run a candidate

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<v Speaker 1>who was sucking up to Trump. We have to earn well.

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<v Speaker 1>He's saying, you have to make the number one issue

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<v Speaker 1>of the twenty twenty election, and he's a paper tiger.

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<v Speaker 1>They shouldn't have done that. Republicans who were not wedded

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<v Speaker 1>and beholden to Trump, I think did reasonably well. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean Blake Masters when I saw his debate with Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly that was in Arizona, the astronaut incumbent Democrat running

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<v Speaker 1>against this Blake Masters backed heavily by Silicon Valley's Peter Teel.

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<v Speaker 1>When I saw that debate, I thought, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>Blake Masters is the smartest guy, perhaps who has ever

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<v Speaker 1>run for the United States Center. He was so good,

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<v Speaker 1>so good. And then two days before the election, it's

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<v Speaker 1>all over the Internet and Fox News Blake getting a

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<v Speaker 1>call from Donald's Trump and acting like he's a teenage

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<v Speaker 1>girl talking to Justin Bieber. He's calling me, He's calling me,

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<v Speaker 1>and what is Trump haranguing him about you're not making

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty then number one election when Trump showed up

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio and I love JD. Vanton he showed up

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<v Speaker 1>in Ohio, I don't know. The day before the election

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<v Speaker 1>held people working for Jdvans saying if I lived in Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been voting against Jdvans just because of this speech.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just get away from him. He won the

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<v Speaker 1>nomination run on your own two feet, and so obviously

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm not alone in that analysis the Trump Act

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<v Speaker 1>candidates and the ones that ended up winning nominations because

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<v Speaker 1>people were afraid, oh, but what if we don't get

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump voters? What if we don't get the Trump voters?

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<v Speaker 1>And the other issue. So Trump was a total disaster

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<v Speaker 1>for the mid terms, and I think luckily people have

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<v Speaker 1>seen that now, so it won't we hopefully won't have

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing happened in presidential Asia and the other one.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I've been pro life pretty much my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>I've written articles on it in the Human Life Review

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<v Speaker 1>back when I was practicing law. I've had debates on

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<v Speaker 1>it at Ivy League campuses. I am pro life. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was stupid for some of these states. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the most one of the most important things is

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<v Speaker 1>getting rid of the monstrosity of Roe v. Wade and

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that this really terrible thing, an abortion, is

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<v Speaker 1>a constitutional right, that that's what our framers we're thinking of. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so yea, we won pop Champagne. It goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>the states, and I think most of the states again

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<v Speaker 1>I will credit run to Santas and Florida and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of states did this. Republicans just jumped in and

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<v Speaker 1>said abortions for the first would vary twelve weeks, seven weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen weeks, sixteen weeks, and that's it, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>And that seems after looking at the internal election, that

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be the consensus position. And I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's hypocritical for pro lifers or Republicans to take that position.

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<v Speaker 1>You can say I would never have an abortion. I

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<v Speaker 1>would counsel anyone in my family or anyone anyone I

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<v Speaker 1>could talk to don't have an abortion. But you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about a law that probably would would. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to say this is a human life and this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't a crime. There's got to be a penalty, there's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be a fine. There could be, as one

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<v Speaker 1>of Trump's candidates was suggesting a murder charge for the woman.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's got to be something. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>people who are even pro life are saying, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want the law to say that though I wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>an abortion, and I do think this is a human life,

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<v Speaker 1>and Republicans have got to stop doing I mean some

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<v Speaker 1>of these states and some of the bills, No, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a life from the moment of conception, and will prosecute

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<v Speaker 1>the woman for for murder? I mean it becomes sometimes Republicans.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw this a lot with the Tea Party, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think we saw it too much of it in

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<v Speaker 1>the midterms. And that is this idea, I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>Todd Aiken thing of you know, watch this, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make the basket from over my shoulder. No,

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<v Speaker 1>don't show off to the zealots. We're trying to save

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<v Speaker 1>a country here. Who could save the country. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>we were just talking a second ago about obviously Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>which just so you know, whenever you do, you get

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<v Speaker 1>I get all the emails that are agree. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not Ann's keeper, Like I don't know what to

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<v Speaker 1>tell peof I'm not in charge of the culture flame

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<v Speaker 1>when it starts. You know, it's amazing to be because

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<v Speaker 1>I just I want your viewers to know Buck Sexton

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<v Speaker 1>is my keeper. If you have complaints, email Buck. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they do, They're like, how dare you have that? Wo?

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm like, first of all, like, if we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about people's credentials, uh, and you know and and

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<v Speaker 1>I know each other personally, people's credentials and conservative movement,

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<v Speaker 1>there has to be a level at which one's conservatism

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<v Speaker 1>is not a thing that we're going to really sort

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<v Speaker 1>of question anymore based on a political candidate or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>I would think that we could get there at some

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<v Speaker 1>point because people are like, she's become a she's become

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<v Speaker 1>a liberal, and I'm like, no, no, she's definitely definitely

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't become a liberal. I get those angry emails, but

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<v Speaker 1>who can Okay, So if it's I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you what if it is Trump, because I know

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<v Speaker 1>you think and and I have a bet for full disclosure,

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<v Speaker 1>you think that there's just no way, like, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way it's gonna be Trump this go round. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a. I mean, I think it's a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>fifty shot that that's gonna be Trump this time round.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be Trump or De Santists. That's

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<v Speaker 1>my that's my guess. And so I might be in

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<v Speaker 1>this position where I'm like, better Trump than the Commies. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>we could all agree on that, sou because then we

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<v Speaker 1>to lose in the Commies will have eight years to

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<v Speaker 1>destroy our country instead of for well, I mean, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna win one way or the other. I figure, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's unfortunate, but I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>there's a Democrat beat De Santist. I don't think there

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<v Speaker 1>is a Democrat who could not beat Trump. I do

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<v Speaker 1>think that Democrats desperately want to run against Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>To that end, I have to ask you m the

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<v Speaker 1>theory that's out there right now about the classified documents thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is another area, by the way, because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in the CIA, we were just the

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<v Speaker 1>classified documents stuff. It's so, I mean, just everything is classified.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the sandwich that I had, uh you know, three

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<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, is classified. Everything is classified. Everything is going

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<v Speaker 1>to help China defeat us in the nuclear war. That's coming.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really it gets a little bit crazy that all

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<v Speaker 1>said this theory that they're trying to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>Biden with this. I think that the simple answer is

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<v Speaker 1>usually I'm an Okham's razor guy. I think the simple

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<v Speaker 1>answer is usually the better answer. I think Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>is a reckless dumbass, and that is the situation with

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<v Speaker 1>the documents. I don't think there's some grand conspiracy. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think there's a conspiracy? I don't know. No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is probably because there are so many

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<v Speaker 1>actual conspiracies against right wingers. I do think Republicans and

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<v Speaker 1>even friends of mine can be a little too conspiracy minded.

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<v Speaker 1>They may end up shiving Biden. It could happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna know what happens. It's not gonna be this

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<v Speaker 1>bank shot with the class of odgers. No. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the only reason they're acting like this, Oh, we're taking

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<v Speaker 1>this very seriously is because they've just done it to Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>And I totally agree with you. I didn't think it

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<v Speaker 1>was a big deal with Trump. Of the three cases,

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clint hoarding classified documents and having her private emails,

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<v Speaker 1>Biden ending up with these classified doctors no, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's in them. And the Trump one, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the only one that was probably pretty serious was the

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary variousness. I think she was hiding what she was

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<v Speaker 1>doing from Obama. But those are those are documents that

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<v Speaker 1>belonged to the American people. And to be destroying her

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<v Speaker 1>email server, no, that is all nefarious. Yeah, she was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to evade FOYA basically because a State Department personnel

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<v Speaker 1>have unclassified email and you can send, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>send somebody you know at State dot gov or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and all it takes is one one of the multi

0:23:54.417 --> 0:23:59.177
<v Speaker 1>million dollar like Saudi or Chinese or you name it

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<v Speaker 1>donors to the Clinton Global Initiative to be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote you a big check, I demand a meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>Like all it takes is one of those or somebody

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<v Speaker 1>to say the wrong thing, and all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>that because they were running a huge influence peddling scam.

0:24:11.897 --> 0:24:13.497
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I remember I was at CNN in

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<v Speaker 1>the days when that was all being talked about, and

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<v Speaker 1>for one, they were I mean actually mocking the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that there was anything classified in her emails when I

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<v Speaker 1>would talk about that, which was pretty funny. And then

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<v Speaker 1>also mocking the idea that the Clintons had what was

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<v Speaker 1>it they had raised? I can't even remember the number

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, but I mean they made a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars basically giving speeches and ghostwriting books. Nobody in

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<v Speaker 1>you know this business very well, nobody makes one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars in a matter of whatever it was, you know,

0:24:41.417 --> 0:24:45.657
<v Speaker 1>ten years by giving speak giving speeches, and getting a

0:24:45.657 --> 0:24:47.777
<v Speaker 1>couple of books ghosts written. That doesn't one hundred million.

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<v Speaker 1>And now that she's not president, I think the donations

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<v Speaker 1>have really gone to kind of a trickle. They shut

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<v Speaker 1>down the Clinton Global Initiative in twenty seventeen and like

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<v Speaker 1>six months, and they didn't even really wait very long

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<v Speaker 1>on it. They kind of went for it right right away.

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<v Speaker 1>So if it is not can I ask you this one.

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<v Speaker 1>If it's if it's not Biden, who's the scariest candidate

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<v Speaker 1>that Republicans could face in terms of obviously being able

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<v Speaker 1>to win. That's a good question. I do think the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats are in trouble, which is why I really hope

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<v Speaker 1>it's to Sciantis because the country is barely hanging on

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<v Speaker 1>by its fingernails right now, and to Santis is certainly

0:25:29.337 --> 0:25:33.577
<v Speaker 1>at this point, unquestionably our strongest candidate. I think the

0:25:33.657 --> 0:25:36.817
<v Speaker 1>Democrats are really other than I mean, this is why

0:25:36.817 --> 0:25:39.897
<v Speaker 1>they're bringing in all these third worlders to vote for

0:25:39.977 --> 0:25:43.297
<v Speaker 1>them in the years to come. Doesn't matter in California,

0:25:43.337 --> 0:25:46.937
<v Speaker 1>they'll elect a nut like Gavin Newsom. Get ready for that. America.

0:25:47.017 --> 0:25:51.097
<v Speaker 1>But if there are still enough sane people or you know,

0:25:51.217 --> 0:25:55.577
<v Speaker 1>slash actual Americans voting in this country, I think the

0:25:55.617 --> 0:25:58.097
<v Speaker 1>Democrats are in trouble because once they get rid of

0:25:58.497 --> 0:26:03.017
<v Speaker 1>you know, their senile dementia patients, you're getting down pretty

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<v Speaker 1>quickly to the woke progressive Ilhan Omars, who is a

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<v Speaker 1>respectable Democrat or that could win a primary? There are

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<v Speaker 1>a few, but they couldn't possibly win a Democratic primary?

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<v Speaker 1>What about Yuncan, Nicky Haley, Christy Nome? Trying to think

0:26:21.217 --> 0:26:24.297
<v Speaker 1>who else has already been talked about, as I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who else thinks that they'd be running on the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican side. Are any of them in your mind serious

0:26:29.857 --> 0:26:34.777
<v Speaker 1>serious possibilities? No, you forgot the warmonger under Trump Pompeio.

0:26:35.697 --> 0:26:37.817
<v Speaker 1>I thought you're talking about the guy with the mustache Bolton,

0:26:37.857 --> 0:26:40.937
<v Speaker 1>because he's apparently running That would be fantastic. I do

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<v Speaker 1>hope they all run, because the danger would be as

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<v Speaker 1>if you had except I really think De Santis is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of standing on his own without much competition. But

0:26:48.777 --> 0:26:52.777
<v Speaker 1>I would like all of the warmongery will do nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about immigration, utterly useless Rhino Republicans. I'd love for a

0:26:56.537 --> 0:26:58.097
<v Speaker 1>lot of them to run. I'd love for a lot

0:26:58.137 --> 0:27:02.017
<v Speaker 1>of them to get stumps down on the one Republican,

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<v Speaker 1>my second favorite Republican in the country and the one

0:27:04.697 --> 0:27:07.897
<v Speaker 1>I would like De Santis to picus. His vice president

0:27:08.017 --> 0:27:10.617
<v Speaker 1>is Glenn Yuncan of Virginia. I think he's alrey good

0:27:11.177 --> 0:27:13.697
<v Speaker 1>observing him, Yeah, he's been very good so far too.

0:27:13.737 --> 0:27:15.497
<v Speaker 1>Is there anyone else on the GOP side, even in

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<v Speaker 1>Congress that you you find yourself more often than not

0:27:19.897 --> 0:27:24.217
<v Speaker 1>pleased with and giving giving all due kudos too for

0:27:24.257 --> 0:27:28.217
<v Speaker 1>their work. Is there anyone else who sticks out as yes? Yes? Well,

0:27:28.497 --> 0:27:32.857
<v Speaker 1>and one more governor I'll mention Greg Genfors of Montana's

0:27:33.017 --> 0:27:36.297
<v Speaker 1>he's been on fire. Kudos to him. That there's another

0:27:36.337 --> 0:27:39.737
<v Speaker 1>governor I forget her name. There's some great senators. Holly

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<v Speaker 1>is one of is one of my favorites, and I

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<v Speaker 1>and I kind of had a prejudice against him because

0:27:45.537 --> 0:27:48.017
<v Speaker 1>of that, I shouldn't even mention it. I love him,

0:27:48.177 --> 0:27:52.377
<v Speaker 1>but that's silly. Raised for salute to the January six protesters.

0:27:52.417 --> 0:27:55.457
<v Speaker 1>I thought he looked really really he looked like David Hogg,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was sort of against him for about

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<v Speaker 1>a week. But oh my gosh, he's good. And what

0:28:01.857 --> 0:28:04.537
<v Speaker 1>his objection waters was good. You know. One of the

0:28:04.617 --> 0:28:06.937
<v Speaker 1>things that came up. One of the things I love

0:28:06.937 --> 0:28:09.057
<v Speaker 1>about him. Whatever you're saying, Oh, why does in Congress

0:28:09.097 --> 0:28:11.777
<v Speaker 1>do this? Why don't the Center do this? You look

0:28:11.777 --> 0:28:14.617
<v Speaker 1>into it. Oh, yeah, somebody's introduced a bill to do that.

0:28:15.057 --> 0:28:19.897
<v Speaker 1>It's Josh Holly. Look, it's Josh Holly again. So there

0:28:20.017 --> 0:28:23.097
<v Speaker 1>was some news I guess this week. Ron de Santis

0:28:23.097 --> 0:28:26.177
<v Speaker 1>has stopped a bunch of illegal aliens landing on the

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<v Speaker 1>shore of Florida, and some immigration hawks have said, yeah,

0:28:31.697 --> 0:28:34.817
<v Speaker 1>he stopped them, but he's not deporting them. Well, governors

0:28:34.937 --> 0:28:38.217
<v Speaker 1>can't deport illegals. All they can do is make it

0:28:38.417 --> 0:28:42.297
<v Speaker 1>really uncomfortable for them. All they can do is detain them.

0:28:42.537 --> 0:28:44.297
<v Speaker 1>All they can do is hold the for ice. They

0:28:44.377 --> 0:28:48.137
<v Speaker 1>can't deport illegals. Guess who was introduced to bill that

0:28:48.177 --> 0:28:53.137
<v Speaker 1>would allow governors to deport illegals. Josh Holly. Interesting. I

0:28:53.137 --> 0:28:56.657
<v Speaker 1>would just add to your point about the Florida illegals

0:28:56.737 --> 0:29:01.497
<v Speaker 1>arriving situation. The Biden White House initially put out some

0:29:01.577 --> 0:29:03.617
<v Speaker 1>statement or I think it was directly from the Biden

0:29:03.617 --> 0:29:07.017
<v Speaker 1>wet House like Kree Jean Pierre, that was criticizing this,

0:29:07.057 --> 0:29:10.297
<v Speaker 1>that it was like showboating that DeSantis was doing until

0:29:10.337 --> 0:29:12.897
<v Speaker 1>they found out that there was actually a request from

0:29:13.017 --> 0:29:15.577
<v Speaker 1>Ice for the National Guard to help, So they were,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, sorry for the Florida National Guard to a sis.

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<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't like he was going above and beyond

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<v Speaker 1>his mandate. He was actually responding to request for assistance.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Montana, though, I have to ask you because

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to get beyond just the

0:29:29.897 --> 0:29:33.217
<v Speaker 1>usual usual red meat of politics with miss Coulter. While

0:29:33.217 --> 0:29:36.297
<v Speaker 1>we've got her here. Do you watch Yellowstone? And what

0:29:36.337 --> 0:29:37.977
<v Speaker 1>do you think if you do? Are you a watcher?

0:29:38.457 --> 0:29:42.337
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm sort of horrified to admit that I have.

0:29:42.657 --> 0:29:44.737
<v Speaker 1>I've not seen it yet, but that is the show

0:29:44.777 --> 0:29:47.257
<v Speaker 1>that all my friends keep telling me, you gotta watch,

0:29:47.297 --> 0:29:49.217
<v Speaker 1>you gotta watch, you gotta watch. But I think I

0:29:49.257 --> 0:29:51.177
<v Speaker 1>need to start at the beginning, right, I think you

0:29:51.257 --> 0:29:54.537
<v Speaker 1>have to get past the fact that you know, Bozeman

0:29:54.697 --> 0:29:58.017
<v Speaker 1>is apparently like Baghdad. There's just m fors and guys,

0:29:58.097 --> 0:30:00.377
<v Speaker 1>you know, banging it out on the street corners firing

0:30:00.457 --> 0:30:02.097
<v Speaker 1>each other all the time. There's a little bit of

0:30:02.377 --> 0:30:05.217
<v Speaker 1>a little bit of Hollywood license taken with these ranchers.

0:30:05.577 --> 0:30:07.857
<v Speaker 1>But but it is super entertaining. I mean it's a

0:30:08.137 --> 0:30:10.817
<v Speaker 1>it's a huge show, like seventeen mill people. I think

0:30:10.857 --> 0:30:13.937
<v Speaker 1>will last watch the fifth season premiere? What do What

0:30:14.057 --> 0:30:16.897
<v Speaker 1>are you? Is there anything you're watching these days? With Carrie?

0:30:17.017 --> 0:30:20.417
<v Speaker 1>I end up watching um when when it's time, when

0:30:20.417 --> 0:30:22.897
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to, like, have you know, quiet time?

0:30:22.937 --> 0:30:26.137
<v Speaker 1>If we put on the Crown, She's asleep in five minutes.

0:30:26.257 --> 0:30:28.577
<v Speaker 1>But everyone else seems to love that show. I think

0:30:28.617 --> 0:30:31.137
<v Speaker 1>I'd probably be asleep, which is why I haven't started

0:30:31.177 --> 0:30:33.457
<v Speaker 1>to watch it. What do you watch? Are you really

0:30:33.497 --> 0:30:35.977
<v Speaker 1>just watching it? And if you're watching MSNBC, you have

0:30:36.057 --> 0:30:40.217
<v Speaker 1>to give us is anything on MSNBC worth watching other

0:30:40.257 --> 0:30:44.297
<v Speaker 1>than enjoy read? Who does have an honestly an amazing

0:30:44.297 --> 0:30:47.937
<v Speaker 1>ability And I say that and it inspires amazement that

0:30:48.017 --> 0:30:52.097
<v Speaker 1>she can turn anything like our conversation about do you

0:30:52.137 --> 0:30:55.977
<v Speaker 1>watch Yellowstone End can actually turn into some kind of

0:30:56.497 --> 0:31:00.097
<v Speaker 1>monologue on race and racism in America today. I don't

0:31:00.097 --> 0:31:02.137
<v Speaker 1>know how, but she could do it. Oh no, that

0:31:02.217 --> 0:31:06.097
<v Speaker 1>is totally proof of your and my white supremacy. Oh yeah,

0:31:06.857 --> 0:31:09.777
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, I haven't. I can't even I can't

0:31:09.777 --> 0:31:12.897
<v Speaker 1>watch MSNBC anymore. I could get a show from two

0:31:12.977 --> 0:31:17.777
<v Speaker 1>years ago, show it to you, and one from last night,

0:31:17.897 --> 0:31:20.937
<v Speaker 1>and you tell me has two years passed? In the

0:31:20.977 --> 0:31:24.417
<v Speaker 1>interim between these two shows, they all say the exact

0:31:24.417 --> 0:31:27.577
<v Speaker 1>same thing, And I mean, well, there are exciting moments

0:31:27.617 --> 0:31:29.737
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know if you knew this book, but

0:31:30.177 --> 0:31:33.457
<v Speaker 1>do you know how close we came to losing our democracy?

0:31:34.097 --> 0:31:37.857
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing there was an insurrection of unarmed people who

0:31:37.937 --> 0:31:42.897
<v Speaker 1>didn't actually engage with any kind of military force or precision.

0:31:43.137 --> 0:31:45.937
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of weird because I've actually been exposed to

0:31:46.257 --> 0:31:49.537
<v Speaker 1>what a country looks like when people do try to

0:31:49.577 --> 0:31:53.457
<v Speaker 1>overthrow the government, or when there is an active civil

0:31:53.497 --> 0:31:57.297
<v Speaker 1>war of some kind going on, sectarian warfare, and it's

0:31:57.617 --> 0:32:00.857
<v Speaker 1>very different from QAnon Shaman and a bunch of other

0:32:01.337 --> 0:32:06.337
<v Speaker 1>largely middle aged folks walking around calmly and taking photos

0:32:06.737 --> 0:32:08.897
<v Speaker 1>now martially that it is okay. I've condemned it from

0:32:08.897 --> 0:32:11.137
<v Speaker 1>the beginning. I condemned it for many reasons. One of

0:32:11.137 --> 0:32:14.137
<v Speaker 1>them was I was like, this is very stupid because

0:32:14.137 --> 0:32:18.257
<v Speaker 1>it is handing the Democrats their favorite thing in the world,

0:32:18.297 --> 0:32:20.057
<v Speaker 1>which is something that they can get the left wing

0:32:20.057 --> 0:32:22.457
<v Speaker 1>base all hysterical about for the next twenty years, and

0:32:22.457 --> 0:32:25.057
<v Speaker 1>this is but an They've said it's worse than Pearl Harvard.

0:32:25.097 --> 0:32:27.417
<v Speaker 1>They've said there are prominent Democrats who have said it

0:32:27.457 --> 0:32:30.897
<v Speaker 1>is worse than than nine to eleven. And I wonder

0:32:30.897 --> 0:32:33.937
<v Speaker 1>if we've if we've just reached it not even fun anymore.

0:32:34.137 --> 0:32:36.697
<v Speaker 1>It's not fun. Well, you know, I think there's this

0:32:36.777 --> 0:32:39.177
<v Speaker 1>concept of terminal velocity, right when you jump out of

0:32:39.177 --> 0:32:41.297
<v Speaker 1>a plane or something and you hit like the absolute

0:32:41.377 --> 0:32:44.217
<v Speaker 1>max speed and then that's just that's just the speed

0:32:44.257 --> 0:32:45.497
<v Speaker 1>you're going the rest of the way. I think that's

0:32:45.537 --> 0:32:47.177
<v Speaker 1>what terminal velocity is. I might it was like a

0:32:47.217 --> 0:32:50.617
<v Speaker 1>bad Charlie Sheen movie or one of those guys. Have

0:32:50.737 --> 0:32:54.137
<v Speaker 1>we hit like terminal stupidity over at MSNBC, Like it

0:32:54.217 --> 0:32:58.657
<v Speaker 1>can't get any dumber or any crazier. Mostly for me,

0:32:58.817 --> 0:33:02.817
<v Speaker 1>I mean dumb and crazy I love that. No, it's

0:33:02.977 --> 0:33:06.577
<v Speaker 1>it's the painful repetition. I can't there's a lot. I

0:33:06.697 --> 0:33:09.377
<v Speaker 1>can't listen to the same thing all the time. So

0:33:09.537 --> 0:33:11.697
<v Speaker 1>even I have not really been why what happened? Because

0:33:11.737 --> 0:33:14.577
<v Speaker 1>you used to get to go on and you and

0:33:14.777 --> 0:33:17.817
<v Speaker 1>and others and you know me too, back back when

0:33:17.857 --> 0:33:21.177
<v Speaker 1>this was a thing to debate people on the other side.

0:33:21.217 --> 0:33:23.417
<v Speaker 1>Have you noticed when did this happen? Where all of

0:33:23.457 --> 0:33:26.777
<v Speaker 1>a sudden, no one Now there's no looney left wingers

0:33:26.817 --> 0:33:29.417
<v Speaker 1>who will go on and have a real like throw

0:33:29.417 --> 0:33:31.137
<v Speaker 1>it out. I mean, I I'm trying to think who

0:33:31.137 --> 0:33:33.257
<v Speaker 1>were some of the like didn't you and did you?

0:33:33.257 --> 0:33:35.177
<v Speaker 1>And al Sharpe that ever debate I know you and

0:33:35.297 --> 0:33:41.337
<v Speaker 1>probably hime right completely changed. This was the introduction I

0:33:41.377 --> 0:33:44.577
<v Speaker 1>wrote to my sub stack. I mean, all of cable news.

0:33:44.617 --> 0:33:48.137
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. You can't just hold MSNBC as as the

0:33:48.217 --> 0:33:51.897
<v Speaker 1>only offender here. It has become more just saying the

0:33:52.017 --> 0:33:55.897
<v Speaker 1>things they think the audience wants to hear, and they

0:33:55.937 --> 0:34:00.097
<v Speaker 1>apparently think that their audiences don't want to hear intelligent

0:34:00.177 --> 0:34:05.017
<v Speaker 1>commentary or facts or history or no, they want to

0:34:05.057 --> 0:34:08.657
<v Speaker 1>be ginned up, be angry at everything. The other side

0:34:08.777 --> 0:34:11.817
<v Speaker 1>is doing and with no one there to contradict them.

0:34:11.857 --> 0:34:16.897
<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is why the American system values debate

0:34:17.217 --> 0:34:20.577
<v Speaker 1>and free speech, the idea that John Stuart mill idea

0:34:20.657 --> 0:34:23.217
<v Speaker 1>that the truth will rise in a battle for ideas,

0:34:23.497 --> 0:34:27.497
<v Speaker 1>we won't sense her particular viewpoints. Well, cable news has

0:34:27.537 --> 0:34:31.297
<v Speaker 1>just been an absolute devolution. You have learned more by

0:34:31.377 --> 0:34:34.177
<v Speaker 1>talking to the hot dog. I'm seriously, I'm not being

0:34:34.217 --> 0:34:36.697
<v Speaker 1>sarcastic to a guy selling hot dogs on the street.

0:34:36.857 --> 0:34:41.497
<v Speaker 1>And why is it just considered okay that there are politicians.

0:34:41.657 --> 0:34:44.297
<v Speaker 1>I mean Nancy Pelosi, for example, would just would never

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<v Speaker 1>go on Fox News or any channel other than effectively

0:34:48.777 --> 0:34:52.057
<v Speaker 1>regime media for her. I feel like that's something of

0:34:52.097 --> 0:34:54.537
<v Speaker 1>an indictment, like how hard should it be for her

0:34:54.697 --> 0:34:57.857
<v Speaker 1>to be able to go on? Sure, she'll get heat.

0:34:58.097 --> 0:35:01.617
<v Speaker 1>I remember being told by somebody who was I forget

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<v Speaker 1>which Fox show it was, and this is back in

0:35:03.857 --> 0:35:07.217
<v Speaker 1>the day, but one of these, one of these really

0:35:07.297 --> 0:35:10.097
<v Speaker 1>kind of radical I think it was Gosh camera the

0:35:10.097 --> 0:35:12.297
<v Speaker 1>guy's name. What are these sort of more radical Islamists

0:35:12.337 --> 0:35:14.697
<v Speaker 1>from the UK would go on? It might have been

0:35:14.697 --> 0:35:16.417
<v Speaker 1>it might have been Handy and Combs back in the

0:35:16.457 --> 0:35:18.697
<v Speaker 1>Hannity and Combs days, which you know well, and he

0:35:18.697 --> 0:35:20.657
<v Speaker 1>would say self, you know, it's like women should be

0:35:20.697 --> 0:35:22.617
<v Speaker 1>The guy had a very sort of thick British accent,

0:35:22.737 --> 0:35:26.017
<v Speaker 1>you know, women should be you know, treated like you know,

0:35:26.417 --> 0:35:28.577
<v Speaker 1>servants or slaves or whatever. And I mean a very

0:35:28.697 --> 0:35:31.657
<v Speaker 1>inflammatory stuff. And of course Sean's there and he's just like,

0:35:31.777 --> 0:35:33.897
<v Speaker 1>you know, look at this lunatic. This guy should be

0:35:33.897 --> 0:35:35.777
<v Speaker 1>on a terrorist watch list. The whole thing. I remember

0:35:35.777 --> 0:35:37.497
<v Speaker 1>when I asked somebody said, why does this guy go

0:35:37.537 --> 0:35:39.217
<v Speaker 1>on the show, and they said, no, you didn't understand.

0:35:39.777 --> 0:35:44.217
<v Speaker 1>He goes on because his supporters love it, even if

0:35:44.217 --> 0:35:46.697
<v Speaker 1>he should have called all these things that you know,

0:35:46.777 --> 0:35:49.697
<v Speaker 1>he wants somebody who's going he wants to go to battle.

0:35:49.737 --> 0:35:51.897
<v Speaker 1>They want to see him battle, right. I mean, that's

0:35:51.937 --> 0:35:53.937
<v Speaker 1>just a kind of an extreme example of it. I

0:35:53.977 --> 0:35:57.097
<v Speaker 1>feel like nobody wants to battle anymore. Everyone just retreats

0:35:57.137 --> 0:36:00.977
<v Speaker 1>to the amen corner because it's it's easy, it's lazy.

0:36:01.137 --> 0:36:04.857
<v Speaker 1>I think pretty much all cable news house on across

0:36:04.897 --> 0:36:07.817
<v Speaker 1>the board could do their TV shows in their sleep,

0:36:08.017 --> 0:36:11.137
<v Speaker 1>saying the same things over and over. Biden bad, I

0:36:11.177 --> 0:36:12.857
<v Speaker 1>mean you could. I think you could do it with

0:36:12.897 --> 0:36:16.457
<v Speaker 1>either network, switch the facts, don't tell them who did

0:36:16.537 --> 0:36:19.377
<v Speaker 1>one thing, you know, switch Biden to Trump, or Trump

0:36:19.417 --> 0:36:21.297
<v Speaker 1>to Biden, or to say and just to Biden. And

0:36:21.777 --> 0:36:24.577
<v Speaker 1>if they think it Biden did it, oh that's very very,

0:36:24.697 --> 0:36:28.337
<v Speaker 1>very bad. And they won't as you I have, well,

0:36:28.417 --> 0:36:31.057
<v Speaker 1>for example, as you and I just did saying the

0:36:31.097 --> 0:36:34.417
<v Speaker 1>whole classified document thing is kind of bs Oh, I

0:36:34.457 --> 0:36:39.537
<v Speaker 1>mean absolutely, it's It's one of these though. I think

0:36:39.537 --> 0:36:43.097
<v Speaker 1>the problem is there's a almost like an arms race

0:36:43.737 --> 0:36:46.497
<v Speaker 1>among people in the media now in particular, to do

0:36:46.657 --> 0:36:50.857
<v Speaker 1>just whatever they think gets the clicks and works, and

0:36:50.937 --> 0:36:53.657
<v Speaker 1>so there's no no one's attached anymore because it's like, well,

0:36:53.697 --> 0:36:56.297
<v Speaker 1>if I don't do it, then somebody else is going

0:36:56.337 --> 0:36:58.257
<v Speaker 1>to do it, and then I just I just lose.

0:36:58.297 --> 0:37:00.737
<v Speaker 1>And I think that's very real, by the way, And

0:37:00.817 --> 0:37:02.857
<v Speaker 1>I think that as there's less and less debate and

0:37:02.897 --> 0:37:05.857
<v Speaker 1>people aren't exposed, I mean, I will say and I

0:37:06.337 --> 0:37:09.657
<v Speaker 1>never attack people on the right publicly. See it's a

0:37:09.737 --> 0:37:13.577
<v Speaker 1>polite this thing. Ed. Even when I don't attack people

0:37:13.617 --> 0:37:15.897
<v Speaker 1>on the right publicly, you know, just because I don't

0:37:15.937 --> 0:37:17.617
<v Speaker 1>like them or I don't like something they've said. I'll

0:37:17.657 --> 0:37:19.537
<v Speaker 1>disagree with them on things, but I'm not going to say,

0:37:19.537 --> 0:37:22.417
<v Speaker 1>you know, that guy is a jackass. We've got plenty

0:37:22.417 --> 0:37:24.417
<v Speaker 1>of jackasses on the right, some of whom have very

0:37:24.417 --> 0:37:28.497
<v Speaker 1>substantial audiences. I mean, people who are not neither learned,

0:37:28.537 --> 0:37:31.257
<v Speaker 1>nor interesting nor particularly good people. When it all comes

0:37:31.297 --> 0:37:33.417
<v Speaker 1>down to it, there are far more on the left.

0:37:33.497 --> 0:37:36.497
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I may think that a vast majority I

0:37:36.497 --> 0:37:38.297
<v Speaker 1>would put in that category in the media I'm talking

0:37:38.337 --> 0:37:41.377
<v Speaker 1>about now. But on the right, I think that something

0:37:41.457 --> 0:37:44.217
<v Speaker 1>is something has kind of shifted and happened where you

0:37:44.257 --> 0:37:46.057
<v Speaker 1>don't have to be very knowledgeable, you don't have to

0:37:46.097 --> 0:37:48.257
<v Speaker 1>be a very honest person, You certainly don't have to

0:37:48.257 --> 0:37:51.817
<v Speaker 1>be a very ethical person, and yet you can do

0:37:51.977 --> 0:37:54.617
<v Speaker 1>very very well. Is that a change? Am I just

0:37:54.737 --> 0:37:56.737
<v Speaker 1>not even thinking that that's a change? Maybe I am.

0:37:56.777 --> 0:37:59.897
<v Speaker 1>I mean I haven't been No, it's absolutely a change.

0:37:59.977 --> 0:38:03.297
<v Speaker 1>It used to be. I think TV was fun back then,

0:38:03.337 --> 0:38:06.137
<v Speaker 1>and I think it was. I mean, you mentioned Hannity

0:38:06.177 --> 0:38:09.137
<v Speaker 1>and Comes. I remember in the early days of Hannity

0:38:09.137 --> 0:38:11.537
<v Speaker 1>and Comes. I mean, obviously I'm a political not I'm

0:38:11.537 --> 0:38:13.977
<v Speaker 1>really paying attention to what's going on in the world.

0:38:14.137 --> 0:38:15.857
<v Speaker 1>But maybe I was writing a book, maybe there was

0:38:15.857 --> 0:38:18.177
<v Speaker 1>an issue I hadn't followed if I wanted to hear

0:38:18.257 --> 0:38:21.937
<v Speaker 1>both sides of what the argument was, I'd turn on

0:38:21.977 --> 0:38:25.217
<v Speaker 1>Hannity and Combs. It was and I'm sure, And I

0:38:25.257 --> 0:38:28.657
<v Speaker 1>don't mean, though I probably would if I thought about it.

0:38:28.737 --> 0:38:32.177
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean specifically to dis CNN and MSNBC from

0:38:32.217 --> 0:38:35.257
<v Speaker 1>the old days. They probably had similar shows on. There

0:38:35.297 --> 0:38:38.777
<v Speaker 1>was a lot well, crossfire. I debate is good. That's

0:38:38.777 --> 0:38:42.057
<v Speaker 1>how you know if it's if it's all just people

0:38:42.617 --> 0:38:45.017
<v Speaker 1>you know, saying the same thing, and oh, you're so smart.

0:38:45.057 --> 0:38:47.737
<v Speaker 1>You make me smarter every time you come on my program,

0:38:47.737 --> 0:38:51.057
<v Speaker 1>and oh that's amazing, and there's there's no one to say,

0:38:51.137 --> 0:38:54.257
<v Speaker 1>but wait, that fact that was just mentioned isn't actually

0:38:54.297 --> 0:38:58.137
<v Speaker 1>a fact. At CNN, for example, people would say I

0:38:58.257 --> 0:39:00.017
<v Speaker 1>had this concept of I'm going to go into the

0:39:00.057 --> 0:39:02.417
<v Speaker 1>Lions dead right, and I knew by the way that

0:39:02.457 --> 0:39:07.497
<v Speaker 1>place was always hostile to me all the way on down.

0:39:07.537 --> 0:39:10.897
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I had some friend who are producers over

0:39:10.937 --> 0:39:13.377
<v Speaker 1>there and people that were decent, but overall, just the

0:39:13.577 --> 0:39:16.577
<v Speaker 1>it was institutionally hostile to conservatives. This is now twenty fourteen,

0:39:16.697 --> 0:39:20.737
<v Speaker 1>twenty fifteen, in that time period, but I remember I'd

0:39:20.737 --> 0:39:22.737
<v Speaker 1>go over there and my thinking was, well, I don't

0:39:22.777 --> 0:39:24.497
<v Speaker 1>want to let them get away with this nonsense and like,

0:39:24.497 --> 0:39:26.017
<v Speaker 1>we've got to bring the fight to the enemy. But

0:39:26.057 --> 0:39:28.457
<v Speaker 1>what you figure out when you're there is the whole

0:39:28.457 --> 0:39:31.257
<v Speaker 1>thing is completely rigged. They have the host who is

0:39:31.337 --> 0:39:36.297
<v Speaker 1>some screaming lib and they've got a you know, one

0:39:36.457 --> 0:39:38.817
<v Speaker 1>expert or something who they're going to go to first,

0:39:38.817 --> 0:39:40.817
<v Speaker 1>and then they've got a political pundit who's a Democrat.

0:39:40.857 --> 0:39:43.737
<v Speaker 1>By the way, the expert and the Democrat pundit totally

0:39:43.777 --> 0:39:46.257
<v Speaker 1>agree on everything and are like high fiving each other.

0:39:46.537 --> 0:39:49.577
<v Speaker 1>And you're gonna go last, and you're the conservative and

0:39:49.657 --> 0:39:53.137
<v Speaker 1>it's someone else's show, so you're just there to just

0:39:53.257 --> 0:39:55.857
<v Speaker 1>get punched right in the nose. That's it. You're not there.

0:39:55.897 --> 0:39:58.057
<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna let you speak, they're gonna talk over you.

0:39:58.137 --> 0:40:00.137
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've had them just basically cut off to

0:40:00.177 --> 0:40:02.137
<v Speaker 1>commercial in the middle of me talking like they don't care.

0:40:02.457 --> 0:40:04.857
<v Speaker 1>So that's why that was part of the descent, and

0:40:04.937 --> 0:40:07.057
<v Speaker 1>now they don't even you know, it's kind of a

0:40:07.097 --> 0:40:09.817
<v Speaker 1>sad thing actually when I see conservatives now at CNN

0:40:10.377 --> 0:40:13.217
<v Speaker 1>who are doing the dance of I'm a I'm a

0:40:13.257 --> 0:40:15.737
<v Speaker 1>conservative or I'm a Republican, but all I do is

0:40:15.777 --> 0:40:19.617
<v Speaker 1>trash the right all the time on TV. I think

0:40:19.657 --> 0:40:21.337
<v Speaker 1>that's a sad thing. Like I think it's like they're

0:40:21.377 --> 0:40:25.857
<v Speaker 1>making hostage videos over there. Oh no, they're being paid

0:40:25.897 --> 0:40:29.697
<v Speaker 1>well for those to be the I'm a Republican speech.

0:40:31.777 --> 0:40:35.457
<v Speaker 1>I just don't think cable news has that much influence anymore.

0:40:35.497 --> 0:40:39.217
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's it's very a circular cocoon, the

0:40:39.217 --> 0:40:41.217
<v Speaker 1>way we used to make fun of, you know, the

0:40:41.297 --> 0:40:43.497
<v Speaker 1>New York Times. I think we're getting the same thing.

0:40:43.977 --> 0:40:45.857
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're a country of three hundred and twenty

0:40:45.857 --> 0:40:49.297
<v Speaker 1>five million people and on a huge night, you know,

0:40:49.377 --> 0:40:52.497
<v Speaker 1>primetime cable, what they're getting a few million and it's

0:40:52.537 --> 0:40:56.057
<v Speaker 1>mostly an average age. Is what about seventy so old

0:40:56.097 --> 0:40:58.697
<v Speaker 1>people in their nursing homes can't figure out how the

0:40:58.737 --> 0:41:02.137
<v Speaker 1>remote works. But most people are online. And you know,

0:41:02.177 --> 0:41:04.657
<v Speaker 1>I just interviewed on subsack John Tierney from The New

0:41:04.737 --> 0:41:09.337
<v Speaker 1>York Times. Magnificent writer, magnificent outside the box writer. But

0:41:09.377 --> 0:41:11.417
<v Speaker 1>one of the books he wrote, which wasn't the main purpose,

0:41:11.457 --> 0:41:13.257
<v Speaker 1>but I talked to him at the end, is what's

0:41:13.297 --> 0:41:16.577
<v Speaker 1>called The Power of Bad. Very interesting book about how

0:41:16.857 --> 0:41:19.617
<v Speaker 1>when bad things that people remember criticism more than they

0:41:19.657 --> 0:41:22.937
<v Speaker 1>remember praise. A bad first interview was going to hurt

0:41:22.937 --> 0:41:27.377
<v Speaker 1>you more than a fantastic first impression, that sort of thing,

0:41:27.377 --> 0:41:29.577
<v Speaker 1>and how you can use it to your benefit. But

0:41:29.697 --> 0:41:32.337
<v Speaker 1>one of the things he mentions in the book that

0:41:33.377 --> 0:41:36.697
<v Speaker 1>I thought was kind of the headline item was that, yes,

0:41:36.897 --> 0:41:41.977
<v Speaker 1>the legacy media very very very negative. For example, their

0:41:42.017 --> 0:41:45.497
<v Speaker 1>COVID coverage. By the way, John Tierney was fantastic on COVID.

0:41:45.577 --> 0:41:48.897
<v Speaker 1>Go back and read his articles in City Journal. He's

0:41:48.897 --> 0:41:52.177
<v Speaker 1>everyone should be reading him, and he get was pointing

0:41:52.177 --> 0:41:55.297
<v Speaker 1>out all along, you're being hysterics. This is the flu.

0:41:55.417 --> 0:41:57.977
<v Speaker 1>This isn't that bad unless you're you're an old person

0:41:58.057 --> 0:42:00.577
<v Speaker 1>or you He was right, he was right, he was right.

0:42:01.097 --> 0:42:05.257
<v Speaker 1>But every night, how many did from COVID. They were

0:42:05.537 --> 0:42:08.577
<v Speaker 1>predicting two million in the next two weeks. Now, what

0:42:08.617 --> 0:42:10.577
<v Speaker 1>he said was, I'm sorry to taking a long time

0:42:10.617 --> 0:42:14.857
<v Speaker 1>to go to the main point. Social media, Twitter, Facebook,

0:42:14.937 --> 0:42:20.657
<v Speaker 1>people online, that is positive news. That is where positivity

0:42:20.737 --> 0:42:24.297
<v Speaker 1>gets rewarded. It's the old media, the legacy media, the

0:42:24.337 --> 0:42:27.417
<v Speaker 1>cable news, where it's just constantly bad news, bad news,

0:42:27.417 --> 0:42:29.257
<v Speaker 1>bad news. All right, Now, hold on a second, I've

0:42:29.257 --> 0:42:31.657
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0:42:31.657 --> 0:42:35.577
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0:42:35.617 --> 0:42:37.337
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0:42:37.377 --> 0:42:39.377
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0:42:39.377 --> 0:42:41.977
<v Speaker 1>just learning the details now with news of some two

0:42:42.057 --> 0:42:44.977
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0:42:44.977 --> 0:42:47.617
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0:42:47.697 --> 0:42:49.777
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<v Speaker 1>You want this protection, trust me. I always thought Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Crichton was a really really smart guy, very interesting guy,

0:43:48.657 --> 0:43:52.817
<v Speaker 1>obviously one of the more successful fiction writers of his generation.

0:43:53.177 --> 0:43:54.617
<v Speaker 1>And I remember, I think it was in a Charlie

0:43:54.657 --> 0:43:56.977
<v Speaker 1>Rose interview he said this, and this really stuck, stuck,

0:43:57.377 --> 0:44:00.537
<v Speaker 1>stuck in my mind, that it's not even so much.

0:44:00.577 --> 0:44:02.897
<v Speaker 1>And this was maybe circle let's say two thousand he

0:44:02.977 --> 0:44:04.857
<v Speaker 1>said this. Bec said, it's not even that. If you

0:44:04.897 --> 0:44:07.577
<v Speaker 1>want to get attention, you have to be a catastrophist

0:44:07.577 --> 0:44:10.457
<v Speaker 1>when you're talking about anything of substance, like you want

0:44:10.497 --> 0:44:12.297
<v Speaker 1>people to pay attention, you have to say, oh my god,

0:44:12.617 --> 0:44:15.697
<v Speaker 1>everything's falling apart, everything is terrible. He said that actually

0:44:15.777 --> 0:44:17.937
<v Speaker 1>the mindset had shifted so that people were mad at you.

0:44:17.977 --> 0:44:19.977
<v Speaker 1>If you don't take that opinion it's like, what do

0:44:20.017 --> 0:44:22.137
<v Speaker 1>you mean, how can you not? And you certainly see

0:44:22.177 --> 0:44:25.657
<v Speaker 1>this with like the climate change people, and you see

0:44:25.657 --> 0:44:27.137
<v Speaker 1>this with all just a way a lot of people

0:44:27.217 --> 0:44:29.377
<v Speaker 1>try to get attention when when they're talking about the country.

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<v Speaker 1>So I agree that there is negativity to that end,

0:44:32.577 --> 0:44:35.897
<v Speaker 1>or too much negativity. What makes a culture feel positive

0:44:35.937 --> 0:44:38.857
<v Speaker 1>about how things are going. I know you're out at

0:44:38.897 --> 0:44:41.417
<v Speaker 1>the colleges talking to college kids all the time, and

0:44:41.537 --> 0:44:44.417
<v Speaker 1>college conservatives are the best because they've got that like

0:44:44.497 --> 0:44:48.777
<v Speaker 1>they've just discovered this reality that that they know about

0:44:48.897 --> 0:44:51.217
<v Speaker 1>and they're in the fight and they're realizing that, like

0:44:51.257 --> 0:44:53.777
<v Speaker 1>they're they're red pilled at this young age. And but

0:44:54.377 --> 0:44:56.457
<v Speaker 1>you know what gives you a sense that it's all

0:44:56.497 --> 0:44:59.617
<v Speaker 1>gonna move in the right direction somehow, some way. Well,

0:44:59.657 --> 0:45:03.497
<v Speaker 1>it is true that conservatives in a liberal environment are

0:45:03.577 --> 0:45:07.417
<v Speaker 1>generally a lot of fun. They're not just rolling into

0:45:07.457 --> 0:45:10.377
<v Speaker 1>being conservatives. Conservatives in New York City, conservat was in

0:45:10.457 --> 0:45:14.017
<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, and conservatives on college campus as there are

0:45:14.057 --> 0:45:16.777
<v Speaker 1>a lot of fun and they're not going to back down.

0:45:16.937 --> 0:45:19.217
<v Speaker 1>They don't with a r under criticism where they'd never

0:45:19.297 --> 0:45:21.617
<v Speaker 1>be conservatives to begin with. Now, I don't think you

0:45:21.817 --> 0:45:24.657
<v Speaker 1>ought to have to be, you know, brave and strong

0:45:24.737 --> 0:45:28.297
<v Speaker 1>and courageous to speak the truth in places like college campuses.

0:45:28.377 --> 0:45:30.737
<v Speaker 1>But but you kind of do when they are I

0:45:30.737 --> 0:45:34.617
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Oddly, I am quite optimistic. It's it's probably

0:45:35.977 --> 0:45:39.057
<v Speaker 1>and you know, man, I hope these aren't famous last

0:45:39.097 --> 0:45:44.737
<v Speaker 1>words because politicians have broken my heart so many times.

0:45:45.097 --> 0:45:48.897
<v Speaker 1>But I'm I'm pretty optimistic about about Rhonda Santis. I mean,

0:45:48.897 --> 0:45:52.297
<v Speaker 1>people are living in freedom in Florida. In one of

0:45:52.337 --> 0:45:54.777
<v Speaker 1>his speeches, it may have been the inaugural speech. I

0:45:54.777 --> 0:45:56.897
<v Speaker 1>think you were there, but I've heard this. People have

0:45:56.977 --> 0:46:00.977
<v Speaker 1>said this to me in Florida, and to Santa's repeated

0:46:01.257 --> 0:46:06.177
<v Speaker 1>Europeans who left Europe, left Australia came to Florida. They

0:46:06.217 --> 0:46:09.097
<v Speaker 1>said they felt like they were leaving East Germany and

0:46:09.257 --> 0:46:13.497
<v Speaker 1>going to West Germany under communism. And and I gotta

0:46:13.577 --> 0:46:16.537
<v Speaker 1>tell you it's it is like that when I tweeted

0:46:16.577 --> 0:46:18.937
<v Speaker 1>that and it went viral, and when I left New

0:46:19.017 --> 0:46:24.457
<v Speaker 1>York during the lockdowns to go to Miami, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was it. I mean, people also think that that's that

0:46:27.177 --> 0:46:31.537
<v Speaker 1>was so this ows wild exaggeration. They deployed National Guard

0:46:31.617 --> 0:46:36.337
<v Speaker 1>soldiers to stand around in the airports to collect personal

0:46:36.377 --> 0:46:40.057
<v Speaker 1>information on people about an aerosolized virus. They're standing there,

0:46:40.097 --> 0:46:42.417
<v Speaker 1>you know, with their m force with no magazine in them,

0:46:42.417 --> 0:46:45.177
<v Speaker 1>just supposed to look like just to scare the virus.

0:46:45.217 --> 0:46:51.017
<v Speaker 1>And the whole thing was idiotic beyond words. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually somebody who I refused to let this stuff go.

0:46:54.977 --> 0:46:57.697
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I maybe that's gonna be, you know,

0:46:57.697 --> 0:47:01.097
<v Speaker 1>to my detriment, But I think it's okay what happened

0:47:01.097 --> 0:47:04.537
<v Speaker 1>at all. And I feel like rain back to Rhonda

0:47:04.577 --> 0:47:07.137
<v Speaker 1>Santis point, I have never felt like I owed a

0:47:07.177 --> 0:47:11.177
<v Speaker 1>politician a debt of gratitude before. It is hard to

0:47:11.217 --> 0:47:15.017
<v Speaker 1>explain how gratifying it was as a New Yorker, in particular,

0:47:15.017 --> 0:47:17.217
<v Speaker 1>to be able to leave in the midst of that

0:47:17.337 --> 0:47:20.137
<v Speaker 1>hellish lunacy and just go to a place where people

0:47:20.177 --> 0:47:21.977
<v Speaker 1>were just it was just like being in America again,

0:47:22.097 --> 0:47:25.497
<v Speaker 1>or what you thought was America. And yes, I think

0:47:25.537 --> 0:47:28.137
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of important than saying you I think you

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<v Speaker 1>should keep talking about this. I think it's important because

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<v Speaker 1>even though I feel optimistic, I'm not saying I'm putting

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<v Speaker 1>all of my hopes in him. There are other people.

0:47:35.457 --> 0:47:37.857
<v Speaker 1>There are people like you. Buck and I mean, I

0:47:37.857 --> 0:47:39.777
<v Speaker 1>guess I just throw it a quick figure, real quick end.

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<v Speaker 1>Will you tell everybody, just for the record that I

0:47:42.537 --> 0:47:47.857
<v Speaker 1>was so anti max masks so early that you were like, really, no,

0:47:48.057 --> 0:47:50.897
<v Speaker 1>I know you were right though. I learned something interesting

0:47:50.977 --> 0:47:52.817
<v Speaker 1>during masking. I don't know if you remember. I used

0:47:52.857 --> 0:47:56.137
<v Speaker 1>to say, no, I was from masks long before. If

0:47:56.137 --> 0:47:57.657
<v Speaker 1>I fly a lot, and I used to get a

0:47:57.697 --> 0:47:59.337
<v Speaker 1>lot of colds and i'd put a mask on, I

0:47:59.377 --> 0:48:02.417
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a dork like walking onto the plane with my mask,

0:48:02.497 --> 0:48:04.297
<v Speaker 1>but once I was seated, I would be a dork.

0:48:04.577 --> 0:48:06.297
<v Speaker 1>I'd pull it down to talk to the stewards, I'd

0:48:06.297 --> 0:48:07.817
<v Speaker 1>pull it down to go to the bathroom. And it

0:48:07.897 --> 0:48:10.337
<v Speaker 1>was only when in the wintertime when i'd hear, you know,

0:48:10.417 --> 0:48:14.177
<v Speaker 1>tuberculosis boys sitting behind me. But anyway, now I've learned

0:48:14.177 --> 0:48:17.657
<v Speaker 1>that the virus can go right through, and I assume

0:48:17.857 --> 0:48:20.737
<v Speaker 1>flew viruses too. But the reason I think it cut

0:48:20.737 --> 0:48:22.937
<v Speaker 1>down on my colds, and it definitely cut down on

0:48:23.017 --> 0:48:25.257
<v Speaker 1>my colds from doing a lot of flying, is that

0:48:25.257 --> 0:48:28.297
<v Speaker 1>when you're sitting on an airplane reading, at least, I

0:48:28.297 --> 0:48:31.617
<v Speaker 1>am constantly touching my face, constantly touching my face, so

0:48:31.657 --> 0:48:32.857
<v Speaker 1>as long as I had the mask on, it was

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<v Speaker 1>protecting me. But the reason I think you should continue

0:48:35.697 --> 0:48:39.057
<v Speaker 1>with the COVID stuff and I think we all owe

0:48:39.657 --> 0:48:43.177
<v Speaker 1>Ron de Santis and other sane. By the way, Glen

0:48:43.217 --> 0:48:47.257
<v Speaker 1>Youngan the one I mentioned Governor Virginia first day in office,

0:48:47.497 --> 0:48:50.777
<v Speaker 1>he ended all the mask mandates in school, it was beautiful.

0:48:50.817 --> 0:48:54.257
<v Speaker 1>I remember that it was beautiful. But I think, though

0:48:54.257 --> 0:48:57.297
<v Speaker 1>I have an optimistic personality, generally, when you look back

0:48:57.337 --> 0:49:01.257
<v Speaker 1>at history, things that have been very harmful to a society,

0:49:01.337 --> 0:49:06.617
<v Speaker 1>to a country. One is losing faith, feeling like the

0:49:06.657 --> 0:49:10.217
<v Speaker 1>country was dishonest and people couldn't be trusted. I mean,

0:49:10.217 --> 0:49:12.897
<v Speaker 1>there was the betting on that baseball game you always

0:49:12.937 --> 0:49:14.697
<v Speaker 1>hear about. Sorry, you'll have to check with Clay on

0:49:14.777 --> 0:49:18.817
<v Speaker 1>exactly what it was the team, okay. And then the

0:49:18.817 --> 0:49:21.737
<v Speaker 1>other one was there was a game show What's My

0:49:21.817 --> 0:49:23.777
<v Speaker 1>Line or something like that, and they found out that

0:49:23.817 --> 0:49:27.417
<v Speaker 1>they were shink quiz show. Yeah, it's like a game quisha.

0:49:27.977 --> 0:49:29.497
<v Speaker 1>Oh sorry, is there a movie about that? I haven't

0:49:29.497 --> 0:49:32.897
<v Speaker 1>seen them. Yes, I think it's called Quo. I'm saying, yeah, Okay.

0:49:32.897 --> 0:49:35.137
<v Speaker 1>So now we have just lived through a couple of

0:49:35.217 --> 0:49:41.657
<v Speaker 1>years where we find out Intelligence community. Intelligence officers are

0:49:41.937 --> 0:49:46.737
<v Speaker 1>big fat, stinking liars. We find out that the brass

0:49:46.777 --> 0:49:51.217
<v Speaker 1>at the FBI, big fat, stinking liars. We find out

0:49:51.217 --> 0:49:54.977
<v Speaker 1>that public health authorities big fat stinking liars. And Twitter,

0:49:55.577 --> 0:49:58.377
<v Speaker 1>where we're supposed to be able to engage in free speech,

0:49:58.777 --> 0:50:01.417
<v Speaker 1>was suppressing the free speech. I mean, it's hard to

0:50:01.457 --> 0:50:05.057
<v Speaker 1>imagine a society where there were this many attacks. The

0:50:05.137 --> 0:50:08.937
<v Speaker 1>Russian collusion thing. New York Times won the Pulitzer Prize

0:50:08.977 --> 0:50:12.697
<v Speaker 1>for that, and the whole was bs the whole thing,

0:50:13.137 --> 0:50:16.017
<v Speaker 1>So you would think that bad things would be coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of this. And I don't know. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess that's why I looked to Ronda Santis. I hope

0:50:22.057 --> 0:50:25.017
<v Speaker 1>he can turn this around. But boy, Ron de Santis

0:50:25.097 --> 0:50:27.617
<v Speaker 1>is going to have a lot on his plate. Do

0:50:27.657 --> 0:50:29.777
<v Speaker 1>you have any thoughts or opinions? And I didn't check

0:50:29.777 --> 0:50:31.937
<v Speaker 1>with that on the stuff before. And I like culter

0:50:32.097 --> 0:50:35.697
<v Speaker 1>on the fly, you know, because you never know. Sometimes

0:50:35.737 --> 0:50:37.497
<v Speaker 1>you just got to duck, you know what's gonna come

0:50:37.537 --> 0:50:40.897
<v Speaker 1>back at you. But Andrew Tate, are you familiar with

0:50:40.897 --> 0:50:42.937
<v Speaker 1>this guy any of his stuff? He's gotten a lot

0:50:42.937 --> 0:50:45.257
<v Speaker 1>of attention recently. He's in a prison in Romania. Now

0:50:45.297 --> 0:50:47.937
<v Speaker 1>do you know about this guy? Well, I've seen the name,

0:50:48.217 --> 0:50:50.857
<v Speaker 1>and because he was banned from Twitter. So this is

0:50:50.857 --> 0:50:53.057
<v Speaker 1>the bad thing about banning people and then letting them

0:50:53.097 --> 0:50:55.537
<v Speaker 1>back on. Because he was banned and let back on,

0:50:55.697 --> 0:51:00.057
<v Speaker 1>I just assumed, Oh, he's probably funny. He's probably like

0:51:00.177 --> 0:51:04.897
<v Speaker 1>Gavin McGinnis. Now i've seen more about him, and you know,

0:51:04.977 --> 0:51:08.577
<v Speaker 1>to quote my favorite movie, Doctor Strangelove, he's a deviated prever.

0:51:09.537 --> 0:51:11.617
<v Speaker 1>I actually, should I see that movie? I haven't seen

0:51:11.657 --> 0:51:16.017
<v Speaker 1>that one, Doctor Strangelove. Oh my gosh, I haven't seen it.

0:51:16.177 --> 0:51:17.737
<v Speaker 1>How to check it out? I was just wondering if

0:51:17.777 --> 0:51:20.697
<v Speaker 1>you had a By the way, Clay also recently cited

0:51:20.737 --> 0:51:24.617
<v Speaker 1>now the because we're really bringing this one back, the

0:51:24.737 --> 0:51:27.737
<v Speaker 1>cult theorem, which I remember from I believe. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if it was one of your books or a column,

0:51:29.257 --> 0:51:31.097
<v Speaker 1>but I do remember as the culture theorem that the

0:51:31.217 --> 0:51:34.617
<v Speaker 1>oh no, it must have been mugged liberal demagoguery from

0:51:35.177 --> 0:51:41.377
<v Speaker 1>what was the thank you where the white White Guilt

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<v Speaker 1>Bank shut down after OJ Because I'm wondering if we're

0:51:46.417 --> 0:51:48.497
<v Speaker 1>a headache a little bit more in that direction now,

0:51:48.617 --> 0:51:52.257
<v Speaker 1>And also the end of affirmative action in college admissions

0:51:52.257 --> 0:51:55.177
<v Speaker 1>has been That's been kind of a fascinating argument recently

0:51:55.217 --> 0:51:58.097
<v Speaker 1>to see that playing out where people are just saying, yeah,

0:51:58.137 --> 0:52:02.017
<v Speaker 1>it's good for society if Harvard pretends that Asians as

0:52:02.057 --> 0:52:06.777
<v Speaker 1>a matter of policy, have lacking personalities so they can

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<v Speaker 1>keep them out of Ivy League schools. People are really

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<v Speaker 1>always remember I just cited this in my affirmative action

0:52:16.177 --> 0:52:19.897
<v Speaker 1>article on sub sat. Bill Gates Foundation gave a lot

0:52:19.937 --> 0:52:22.857
<v Speaker 1>of money to researchers at Georgetown a couple of years

0:52:22.857 --> 0:52:26.377
<v Speaker 1>ago to determine who was discriminated against the most in

0:52:26.457 --> 0:52:30.057
<v Speaker 1>college admissions. So researchers spent some time, They got the

0:52:30.177 --> 0:52:34.537
<v Speaker 1>colleges to give them the SATs and the admission rate

0:52:34.577 --> 0:52:37.137
<v Speaker 1>and the race. And this was at the top two

0:52:37.257 --> 0:52:41.377
<v Speaker 1>hundred most selective colleges, So top one hundred or two hundred,

0:52:41.377 --> 0:52:45.897
<v Speaker 1>that's a lot of colleges and guests. Which group their

0:52:45.977 --> 0:52:49.577
<v Speaker 1>numbers would go up most dramatically if there were no

0:52:49.857 --> 0:52:52.217
<v Speaker 1>affirmative action, if you weren't allowed to look at race.

0:52:52.617 --> 0:52:58.417
<v Speaker 1>I had thought it was Asians, but nope, light men.

0:52:59.257 --> 0:53:04.337
<v Speaker 1>Really yes, I remember people poking and asking me all

0:53:04.417 --> 0:53:06.537
<v Speaker 1>kinds of questions when I got to Ambers, which is

0:53:06.537 --> 0:53:09.017
<v Speaker 1>a you know, one of these liberal arts colleges. But

0:53:09.217 --> 0:53:12.017
<v Speaker 1>it's one of those plays is that thinks it's saving

0:53:12.057 --> 0:53:16.377
<v Speaker 1>the world by getting very social justice focused. They couldn't

0:53:16.417 --> 0:53:19.337
<v Speaker 1>believe I was a white kid with I was not

0:53:19.377 --> 0:53:23.017
<v Speaker 1>a recruited athlete, not the son of or you know,

0:53:23.057 --> 0:53:26.897
<v Speaker 1>not not a child of alumni a legacy, and had

0:53:26.937 --> 0:53:31.137
<v Speaker 1>no like financial connection to the college that was That

0:53:31.217 --> 0:53:34.177
<v Speaker 1>was a rarity for I mean because basically a lot

0:53:34.217 --> 0:53:36.337
<v Speaker 1>of the white kids are legacies, are recruited athletes at

0:53:36.337 --> 0:53:38.097
<v Speaker 1>those schools now, and if you don't fit into one

0:53:38.137 --> 0:53:43.217
<v Speaker 1>of those categories, very tough, right, But even the legacies

0:53:43.297 --> 0:53:48.257
<v Speaker 1>in defense of legacies, what we've learned about IQ it

0:53:48.457 --> 0:53:51.777
<v Speaker 1>is at least in part genetic, there is a reversion

0:53:51.817 --> 0:53:53.897
<v Speaker 1>to the means. So if you have really smart parents,

0:53:53.977 --> 0:53:55.697
<v Speaker 1>the odds are the kids won't be as smart as

0:53:55.697 --> 0:53:58.097
<v Speaker 1>the parents. If you have really dumb parents, the odds

0:53:58.097 --> 0:53:59.937
<v Speaker 1>are the kids won't be as dumb as the parents. Yet.

0:54:00.017 --> 0:54:03.697
<v Speaker 1>And still, if you have a group of two hundred

0:54:03.737 --> 0:54:05.977
<v Speaker 1>kids in one room, two hundred kids in the other room,

0:54:06.057 --> 0:54:08.857
<v Speaker 1>and you have low IQ parents in the first room

0:54:08.857 --> 0:54:12.977
<v Speaker 1>and high the odds are the out of the two

0:54:13.057 --> 0:54:15.937
<v Speaker 1>hundred kids with the high IQ parents they'll have the

0:54:16.017 --> 0:54:18.257
<v Speaker 1>kids will have higher IQs. I was just named this

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<v Speaker 1>today reading some New York Times article about it's just

0:54:21.337 --> 0:54:24.737
<v Speaker 1>like throws in this BS line about well they have

0:54:24.937 --> 0:54:31.457
<v Speaker 1>generational wealth. No, it's not generational wealth, it's generational IQ.

0:54:32.377 --> 0:54:35.697
<v Speaker 1>Another one where Anne is saying stuff that I'm sure

0:54:35.777 --> 0:54:38.577
<v Speaker 1>some people are going to start to get all googly,

0:54:38.897 --> 0:54:42.137
<v Speaker 1>They're going to start googling it, being like, wait a second, look,

0:54:42.177 --> 0:54:45.777
<v Speaker 1>I think it was the be all end all. Obviously

0:54:45.817 --> 0:54:49.937
<v Speaker 1>they're more important qualities than in life. But to pretend

0:54:50.617 --> 0:54:53.897
<v Speaker 1>that I'm just saying the children of legacies, if the

0:54:53.977 --> 0:54:57.257
<v Speaker 1>legacy has got in on the basis of the basis

0:54:57.297 --> 0:54:59.977
<v Speaker 1>of their of their SAT scores, the odds or the

0:55:00.017 --> 0:55:02.497
<v Speaker 1>kids are gonna have decent SAT scores. It is just

0:55:02.537 --> 0:55:06.417
<v Speaker 1>anything that involves IQ people there's like this immediately if

0:55:06.417 --> 0:55:08.657
<v Speaker 1>you even talk about it, everyone starts to freak out.

0:55:08.817 --> 0:55:10.817
<v Speaker 1>I think that's been a trained response for a lot

0:55:10.857 --> 0:55:12.577
<v Speaker 1>of people for a long time. As I understand it,

0:55:12.657 --> 0:55:16.577
<v Speaker 1>IQ is really more it's it's a general range of capacity.

0:55:16.617 --> 0:55:18.537
<v Speaker 1>And so even within that, because I've met lots of

0:55:18.737 --> 0:55:21.777
<v Speaker 1>I have met people in my life who have walked

0:55:21.777 --> 0:55:25.377
<v Speaker 1>around saying you know, I'm one forty five IQ or something,

0:55:25.377 --> 0:55:27.257
<v Speaker 1>and you're like, yeah, you're kind of a loser. So

0:55:27.297 --> 0:55:30.657
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't you know, it can be really helpful, but

0:55:32.777 --> 0:55:35.817
<v Speaker 1>you know, it doesn't mean that that's the only thing,

0:55:35.937 --> 0:55:37.817
<v Speaker 1>as you said, as you rightly understand. So and if

0:55:37.857 --> 0:55:40.497
<v Speaker 1>I gave you one last, one last moment talked to

0:55:40.537 --> 0:55:42.537
<v Speaker 1>all the folks, obviously they should go check out your

0:55:42.537 --> 0:55:46.937
<v Speaker 1>sub stack, which is phenomenal. I am a sub I'm

0:55:46.937 --> 0:55:50.657
<v Speaker 1>a subscriber, full disclosure, and we're gonna get and some

0:55:50.737 --> 0:55:56.057
<v Speaker 1>Geeza dreamsheets and anything else we're gonna tell everybody, Um, okay,

0:55:56.297 --> 0:56:01.737
<v Speaker 1>sub stack columns. Do you want to make any wild

0:56:01.737 --> 0:56:03.977
<v Speaker 1>predictions that we'll bring you back on to see if

0:56:03.977 --> 0:56:08.777
<v Speaker 1>you're right? Well? Is it? DeSantis Biden twenty twenty four.

0:56:09.617 --> 0:56:11.977
<v Speaker 1>I I tend to think, I mean, you and I

0:56:12.017 --> 0:56:15.057
<v Speaker 1>have talked about this. I think we agree. I think

0:56:15.097 --> 0:56:18.177
<v Speaker 1>there's a good chance Democrats do the Weekend of Bernie

0:56:18.257 --> 0:56:21.817
<v Speaker 1>thing with Biden just because once he's gone. Look, who

0:56:21.897 --> 0:56:24.217
<v Speaker 1>do they have that little bootage? He's doing a bang

0:56:24.297 --> 0:56:29.457
<v Speaker 1>up job here. He's the most famous or maybe infamous

0:56:29.457 --> 0:56:31.857
<v Speaker 1>transportation secretary of all. Like I can't even name a

0:56:31.857 --> 0:56:36.377
<v Speaker 1>Transportation secretary. Before this guy, Oh, I can't Norman Manette.

0:56:36.417 --> 0:56:40.857
<v Speaker 1>I hated him more, but week after week, just total disaster.

0:56:41.137 --> 0:56:44.697
<v Speaker 1>I heard of his lodge. And every time something like

0:56:44.737 --> 0:56:47.417
<v Speaker 1>this happens, you just think back to that picture of

0:56:47.537 --> 0:56:51.977
<v Speaker 1>him and his husband in the hospital, rocking the baby

0:56:52.097 --> 0:56:54.377
<v Speaker 1>as if they're nursing him. Never to go check out

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<v Speaker 1>ends sub stack and we'll have you back. And next

0:56:57.497 --> 0:56:59.817
<v Speaker 1>time I want to, I need to get deeper into

0:57:00.457 --> 0:57:02.937
<v Speaker 1>you know what you what you like to read for fun,

0:57:03.177 --> 0:57:05.417
<v Speaker 1>which I know you're a grateful dead person, which I

0:57:05.457 --> 0:57:06.937
<v Speaker 1>do want to make fun of you for this because

0:57:07.057 --> 0:57:09.257
<v Speaker 1>an I can't do it. I can't do it. I

0:57:09.297 --> 0:57:13.937
<v Speaker 1>don't understand. But then again, I'm grumpy. I listen to anything.

0:57:14.257 --> 0:57:19.257
<v Speaker 1>The only music I don't like is jazz. Wow. Okay,

0:57:19.297 --> 0:57:21.977
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing classier than boring jazz, I believe, they said

0:57:21.977 --> 0:57:25.697
<v Speaker 1>once on the office. So there's that, and Coulter with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much and great to see you. Thanks for

0:57:27.497 --> 0:57:30.257
<v Speaker 1>making the time. Thank you great to talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>about Sexton