Speaker 1: Welcome to Insider's Guide to the Other Side, a production
Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. Hi, y'all, I'm Julie.
Speaker 2: Hi there, I'm Brenda. Welcome to Insider's Guide to the
Speaker 2: Other Side.
Speaker 1: Now, y'all need to know that we are obsessed with
Speaker 1: everything on the other side.
Speaker 2: Yes, we are, because once you learn to navigate the energetic,
Speaker 2: or to some the invisible world, life is going to
Speaker 2: be more fun and much more serene.
Speaker 1: Uh heck, yes it can, because let's be honest, for
Speaker 1: in Earth school is hard.
Speaker 2: In fact, you taught me that let's crush Earth School together.
Speaker 1: Well, hello, my witchy, oh pooh, my hair looks like shit.
Speaker 1: How about you.
Speaker 2: Nice? This is why we don't do audio or video.
Speaker 2: This is right, so we don't have to worry about it.
Speaker 1: It's not It is the worst ever.
Speaker 2: It's just blending into your background, that's all.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. No, it doesn't we're to god, No, wait,
Speaker 1: we're I literally look like the greasert that stands in
Speaker 1: front of the liquor store. And I don't know how
Speaker 1: it happened, but it did, and only Brenda can enjoy
Speaker 1: it today. Okay, so now we can get on with
Speaker 1: our show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's so funny. Excellent, excellent. Okay, so today we're
Speaker 2: talking about nature. One of the biggest forces, one of
Speaker 2: the biggest spirit we have on the planet, right, is
Speaker 2: this incredible force of nature. So I'm so excited you
Speaker 2: brought up this, uh, you know, idea to share because
Speaker 2: you recently had a very powerful experience with nature.
Speaker 1: Right, I totally did. And you know what. I what
Speaker 1: was so I think moving about it for me and
Speaker 1: for Suzanne was sometimes we forget and stop to stop
Speaker 1: and smell the roses. Right. We've all heard that at age,
Speaker 1: which is stop and smell the roses. And it's not
Speaker 1: all stopping by your house and sniff and you because
Speaker 1: I know you're rose, but it's in general that to
Speaker 1: do that. And so we had this incredible experience that
Speaker 1: just wanted to share it with everyone because we hope
Speaker 1: Brendan and I hope that this is something you know
Speaker 1: that we have these episodes sometimes that are more reminders
Speaker 1: of about being here, being a spirit in a human body,
Speaker 1: and this is one of them. So we went to
Speaker 1: Los crusis our new backyard, meaning New Mexico, one of
Speaker 1: the most unpopulated states by the way, it's amazing. If
Speaker 1: you don't like humans, move here. Uh, And we went
Speaker 1: down to Los Crusis too, is a Pecan festival, because like,
Speaker 1: couldn't we couldn't be any more boring than that. But
Speaker 1: on the way home home, we stopped at White Sands
Speaker 1: National Park. And if anybody is unfamiliar, White Sands is
Speaker 1: in an area called the Permian Basin. You've probably maybe
Speaker 1: heard of the Permian Basin because that's where a lot
Speaker 1: of oil is being drilled right now, we don't have
Speaker 1: to celebrate it. It's just a fact and it'll eventually
Speaker 1: run out, so no generational never even mention it again.
Speaker 1: And a part of this that the Permian Basin was
Speaker 1: once a shallow sea, and so White Sands National Park
Speaker 1: is the bottom of that shallow sea that is covered
Speaker 1: in white gypsum sand. And it feels different than if
Speaker 1: you go to a regular beach, like if you go
Speaker 1: beach of California, Mexico, Florida, wherever, it doesn't feel this way.
Speaker 1: It's and gypsum is actually you know, in the kind
Speaker 1: of in the crystal Kingdom. When that's probably why I
Speaker 1: liked it so much, right yeah, right, of course, right
Speaker 1: is crystal so there we go. So it was interesting
Speaker 1: because it takes up I think about two hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five square miles of this kind of desolate area
Speaker 1: which is in New Mexico. It's huge. It is just
Speaker 1: a bit south of Alamagordo. There's a naval base there.
Speaker 1: Just f y eyed everybody. And you start driving in
Speaker 1: and you see these like dunes. Actually, as you're driving
Speaker 1: toward it, you see, because there's a bit of wind,
Speaker 1: you see this like kind of white cloud that's around it.
Speaker 1: And Suzanne said, it's windy, there's white sands right there,
Speaker 1: because there's this like cloud of sand, this kind of
Speaker 1: misty cloud of sand over it. So it was really like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's exciting. Like I'm already excited. We're not even there, right.
Speaker 1: So so you start driving in and the first thing
Speaker 1: I do is ask Suzanne. I'm like, give me some history.
Speaker 1: Like I get all excited and it's like I need
Speaker 1: to know everything about this place. So drive and you
Speaker 1: see all these sand dunes, but they have they have
Speaker 1: vegetation that's growing on them, and how you get that's
Speaker 1: the beginning of it. And then as you get drive in,
Speaker 1: I'm not joking you, it is all white, and it
Speaker 1: looks like you're in a snowstorm, like there is there's
Speaker 1: no vegetation. It is all white, and it is like
Speaker 1: you're on another planet. And so naturally Suki comes into
Speaker 1: play because she's with me all the time. And so
Speaker 1: we find this area in ps There is a leash
Speaker 1: law there, or a leash recommendation. I'm not sure how
Speaker 1: lawful it is. We did not follow it. So we
Speaker 1: found this place where there were not other humans, and
Speaker 1: right Rote and like Rebel, who is white, practically got
Speaker 1: lost in it. We kept saying, where's Rebel, where's Rebel?
Speaker 1: She was like a ghost in the white sands of
Speaker 1: it all. And and Souki black on white. She is
Speaker 1: off leash. And if anybody checks out my instagram, you'll
Speaker 1: see photos of her from this, from this magical moment,
Speaker 1: and she is running up and down these.
Speaker 2: She she looks like she's laughing the entire time, and
Speaker 2: she was.
Speaker 1: It was in like her joy brought me joy, that
Speaker 1: brought Suzanne joy, and I have a feeling Rebel was
Speaker 1: on the joy kind of staircase as well. And it
Speaker 1: was just that moment and when we're in there, in
Speaker 1: this other world, we're like, man, the earth is incredible,
Speaker 1: like wild incredible. And then and then there's always in
Speaker 1: and then and then what happened was really interesting. It's
Speaker 1: kind of funny how we got there is we had
Speaker 1: to go to Albuquerque, so we had to take a
Speaker 1: different way home, and the reason why we had to
Speaker 1: pick up our Costco cards just FYI just add a
Speaker 1: little color to the whole story. So what happened is
Speaker 1: that we had to take this other highway to go
Speaker 1: back to the to the Interstate twenty five. And on
Speaker 1: this way, I see these signs called a Valley of
Speaker 1: the Fires, and I'm like, what the hell is Valley
Speaker 1: of the Fires. Had no clue, So we're keep driving
Speaker 1: and Susanne's like, look at all it's kind of dark,
Speaker 1: like maybe it's a place there's been a forest fire.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, why would they have a sign? Like,
Speaker 1: So we go through this whole debate of like of ignorance.
Speaker 1: It's like the circle of stupidity happening. And so we
Speaker 1: get to it and we're like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is a lava field. There's this lava field out in
Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere called the Valley of Fire. And
Speaker 1: of course, like once we had internet because it was
Speaker 1: the SOS zone because there was literally the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 1: And so when Suzanne looks it up because of course
Speaker 1: I'm driving, so it's illegal to do that. That law followed,
Speaker 1: just on the leash law, and so we are so
Speaker 1: we are. So Suzanne's reading all this to me, and
Speaker 1: she goes, this is insane. It's considered like one of
Speaker 1: the youngest lava flows in the United States. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if they wrote that before after Mount Saint Helens.
Speaker 1: And I also don't know if there was lava through
Speaker 1: Mount Saint Helens when that went in. Was it late eighties,
Speaker 1: But there's all this beautiful lava flow, Like if you
Speaker 1: go to Hawaii and you see the dark lava that's
Speaker 1: the young lava. And you see like little faded brown
Speaker 1: that's the old lava. This was black lava rock. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, where did it come from? There's no mountains here.
Speaker 1: And then she answered, there was this small mound that
Speaker 1: blew like a volcano, like a mound, not a mountain,
Speaker 1: a mound because there were no like in the in
Speaker 1: the area there. It's in a valley. There was no
Speaker 1: place because the first time it must be a fisher. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm getting off crack a lot because it was so
Speaker 1: exciting and fascinating, interesting, and we got confused, but it
Speaker 1: was we were in a whole nother world and we
Speaker 1: forgot like all the day to day problems. We stopped
Speaker 1: and smelled the roses and and completely and utter enjoyed
Speaker 1: every single moment of what would normally be like a
Speaker 1: rotten drive home.
Speaker 2: You know, I love that you kind of you had
Speaker 2: the water right with the shallow lake their sea bed right,
Speaker 2: and you had the fire from the lava.
Speaker 1: You we discoverment, we.
Speaker 2: Have the elements, right. It's just so interesting. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: to be, first of all, to be fascinated by your
Speaker 2: own backyard, relatively speaking, is such a wonderful experience. To
Speaker 2: reconnect with the magic that's always available, right, just the
Speaker 2: fact that we're on this amazing planet and we can
Speaker 2: find things and discover things and just celebrate them like
Speaker 2: we may not all experience them. To the ecstasy that
Speaker 2: Sookie had.
Speaker 1: I think it was the greatest ever life, right, I know, right.
Speaker 2: It's so so happy, so happy, but just realizing the
Speaker 2: magic and and taking a moment to take it in
Speaker 2: and be present with it is like it resets our
Speaker 2: nervous system, it inspires us. It's it's truly. I think
Speaker 2: what the word all was, you know, is the perfect
Speaker 2: use for like.
Speaker 1: It was invented that that was invented for that day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
Speaker 1: So let's take a quick break because we're going to
Speaker 1: keep talking about the forces of nature and we'll be
Speaker 1: right back. Okay, y'all, we're back. And since I took
Speaker 1: up the entire first section, I'm just talking about my
Speaker 1: bliss on the planet that I'm going to hand it
Speaker 1: over to my WICHI boo poo.
Speaker 2: No, thank you, thank you. Well, I just I mean,
Speaker 2: I get excited about this when I think about, like,
Speaker 2: as I said, the planet, there's so many inspiring places
Speaker 2: and experiences to have that we get to travel to
Speaker 2: and explore. And also when we think about our you know,
Speaker 2: personal experiences like when we were growing up, we had
Speaker 2: trees that we climbed. We had lilac bushes that you know,
Speaker 2: I personally had a relationship with in peeny bushes. You know,
Speaker 2: this one was this and you know, like across the backyard,
Speaker 2: like you have personal relationships with for instance, one of
Speaker 2: my I like, you know, I have in my work.
Speaker 2: I sometimes have to do openers or icebreakers or things
Speaker 2: like that, and I like asking people tell me about
Speaker 2: your personal relationship or what's your favorite tree or what
Speaker 2: how did you have a personal experience of a tree?
Speaker 2: And oftentimes people will talk about climbing trees right, or
Speaker 2: how trees right, like oh, I used to hide here,
Speaker 2: or you know the way that the trunk split. I
Speaker 2: could sit in there and read, or you know, like
Speaker 2: they would have personal experiences. And even when we talked about,
Speaker 2: you know, discussing this topic, I had to run and
Speaker 2: get my picture of my tree.
Speaker 1: Right story, she actually got a photograph of her tree.
Speaker 2: It's framed until it's on my desk.
Speaker 1: You know, did you did you climb that tree or
Speaker 1: just sit underneath it? No?
Speaker 2: I never climbed this tree because it's so tall and
Speaker 2: it's so magnificent. But we would would, you know, go
Speaker 2: way out in the past the cornfields into the woods
Speaker 2: and beyond and then that that's where that tree was.
Speaker 2: And so when we were far away from home, we
Speaker 2: would we would go into that tree and my brother
Speaker 2: and I would do this, and so it's just this
Speaker 2: magical tree. We could lean up again sort of stare
Speaker 2: up at and it was this giant, giant maple tree
Speaker 2: that was amazing.
Speaker 1: It's it's me if I've ever craw climbed a.
Speaker 2: Tree, I'm sure you climb to tree.
Speaker 1: Not a single one, and I'll tell you exactly why.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was that kid with short legs. I could
Speaker 1: never like get yeah, shorty legs, long trunk, and so
Speaker 1: never climb them. But still had fate. Well, our trees
Speaker 1: at home when I grew up, where willow were weeping willows.
Speaker 1: But the tree that is in my heart and my
Speaker 1: soul is that I know. I've talked about the olive
Speaker 1: tree that we had in Sherman Oaks that during the
Speaker 1: one of the mini droughts that we had when we
Speaker 1: lived there, I would go capture gray water from the
Speaker 1: shower so you know, to heat up the water instead
Speaker 1: of going down the drain. I captured one of those
Speaker 1: big five gallon buckets. And my goal was to keep
Speaker 1: olliver alive during the droughts. And the droughts were years long.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a week, they were years.
Speaker 2: Yeah really yeah, But.
Speaker 1: It's it's a comment to keep things alive. And so
Speaker 1: when I went back to La I don't know a
Speaker 1: month ago, whenever it was, I had so many people
Speaker 1: I wanted to see, but I made a trip out
Speaker 1: there because I wanted to go see all over and
Speaker 1: he's thriving and he looks amazing and it just brought
Speaker 1: me joy. Right, that's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's actually amazing. And again to have these
Speaker 2: like one of my favorite trees climb was on my grandparents' property, right,
Speaker 2: so that was when my father. That was a maple
Speaker 2: tree too, but it had a it it just had
Speaker 2: a different configuration where the trunk split lower so my
Speaker 2: brother could boost me up and then I could climb.
Speaker 1: Would boost yes with him.
Speaker 2: Well, I would also say that getting down was a
Speaker 2: little dicey, but I took my chances. Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 2: And so like just to have these experience and people
Speaker 2: have their experiences like oh there was a tree once
Speaker 2: and or there was a tree where I saw faces
Speaker 2: or you know, trees would talk to me and you
Speaker 2: know people, you know, in even professional settings, people will
Speaker 2: tell these stories. Or I would sleep under this tree
Speaker 2: or you know, or I would play music under this tree.
Speaker 2: Like people have these different stories, which is kind of
Speaker 2: fun to listen to. And no one asks them about it,
Speaker 2: you know, and that's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's everybody can participate. And the other
Speaker 1: one is like bodies of water or streams or lakes
Speaker 1: or things, especially as from the middle of the country
Speaker 1: we didn't have oceans, and but but they all like
Speaker 1: I have stories about those too. We used to catch
Speaker 1: tadpoles and lot them, like you know, it's it's the
Speaker 1: it's nature, right, and like as a kid, you have
Speaker 1: that wonder right, it's like, oh my god, look at
Speaker 1: that magnificry. Oh my god, look at that that you know,
Speaker 1: that mountain or that or that streams, like that's awesome.
Speaker 2: And people they will also take that personal experience of
Speaker 2: you know, whether it's a flower or an animal as species.
Speaker 2: Like also you know, in that nature realm, whether like
Speaker 2: I would run into turtles even though we weren't we
Speaker 2: didn't live near water. Actually yeah, like I would run
Speaker 2: into turtles. So it's like one of my early totems.
Speaker 2: You know, if we were out walking when it was
Speaker 2: dark and I'd be, oh my god, don't step on
Speaker 2: the turtle, and they're like, what are you talking about,
Speaker 2: And of course we had flashlights because it was dark dark,
Speaker 2: like we didn't we didn't have we didn't have street lights, right,
Speaker 2: you know, we we were not in the city at all.
Speaker 2: And they're like, how did you see that. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, you know, but I didn't say be
Speaker 2: as it told me. Don't step on me, girl.
Speaker 1: What hair?
Speaker 2: Don't step on me? You know. So you know, so
Speaker 2: people will have their their little signatures. Oh that's my
Speaker 2: or it's you know, or it's a deer, or it's
Speaker 2: something like you talked about. Suzanne has hummingbirds.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. She sees every hummingbird in like a
Speaker 1: mile radius. It's the craziest thing. Even funny thing is
Speaker 1: when we were leaving White Sands, of course I had
Speaker 1: to stop at the gift shop and buy some cop
Speaker 1: and buy some mugs. And when we pulled up, she goes, oh,
Speaker 1: look at that hummingbird. I go, what? And it was
Speaker 1: on like a branch and it had the same colors
Speaker 1: of the branch. I go, it's trying to disguise itself.
Speaker 1: How the hell did you see that? I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: her thing. She loves it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And they're so tiny when they're still, they're
Speaker 2: so tiny.
Speaker 1: I don't know how she did it, but like it's
Speaker 1: her thing, you know, an that's a funny thing that's happening.
Speaker 1: And I think it's a little bit about like this
Speaker 1: kind of for us. I think we're going through a phase.
Speaker 1: If you guys hear that it's sicky scratching just FYI
Speaker 1: she itchy today that that at our new house, we're
Speaker 1: going to have a go and I and Susanna and
Speaker 1: I both talk about when we're growing up in the
Speaker 1: gardens that we had that we ate from, Like my
Speaker 1: mom had a garden next to the side of the
Speaker 1: house and she grew tomatoes and cantalopes and whatever the
Speaker 1: hell else and it cucumbers. Of course, lots of jokes
Speaker 1: in my house because we're completely inappropriate, and it's true.
Speaker 1: Is this true? It's just true. I can't lie.
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 1: And so we are talking about how we want to
Speaker 1: bring that back into our life and how we want
Speaker 1: actually grow some of our own food. I want to
Speaker 1: grow ginger root and turmeric so I can juice it
Speaker 1: and you know, pull stuff off of a you know,
Speaker 1: of a or dig it up or pull it off
Speaker 1: of a plant and go in and eat it, you know,
Speaker 1: make it.
Speaker 2: I would I also say, you know sometimes like in
Speaker 2: our we grew a lot of vegetables as well, and
Speaker 2: you know, out in the country, and the one thing
Speaker 2: we could do was plant strawberries because my mom's like, no,
Speaker 2: I had to pick strawberries when I was a kid.
Speaker 2: I've never never having strawberries.
Speaker 1: We had strawberries. My mother loved it. We've only had
Speaker 1: plant of what my mom liked because it was we
Speaker 1: had BlackBerry bushes where I had like cuts and I
Speaker 1: probably still have scars on my hands from that stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it is. It's like it's those things you
Speaker 1: remember and those are not one of them are a
Speaker 1: bad memory.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well the strawberries were.
Speaker 1: Your Yeah, we would.
Speaker 2: We would tease her about it, right, So it was
Speaker 2: it was a playful joking, but we didn't trust trust me.
Speaker 2: We did not have strawberries. But yeah, larious again. So
Speaker 2: we just invite you to think about, like, what are
Speaker 2: your nature anchors guides? How do you interact in and
Speaker 2: you know, receive messages or blessings or guidance like, hey,
Speaker 2: I'm on the right path here, whatever it is you're
Speaker 2: thinking about, whatever it is you're contemplating, how do you
Speaker 2: get these messages from the greater spirit of our planet.
Speaker 1: So and how our animals respond because we had coreel on.
Speaker 1: She talked about doing floral blends to help animals be
Speaker 1: more comfortable and to be more like connected to themselves
Speaker 1: because they're so connected to the earth.
Speaker 2: Exactly. Yes, yes, yes, yes, she works with the word's remedies,
Speaker 2: soat she does. All right, So we're gonna be right back.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break, yes, right time, and
Speaker 2: welcome back. So thank you.
Speaker 1: I haven't done that in a while.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you for thanking me. So in this
Speaker 2: last section, I want to talk about, you know, how
Speaker 2: we can engage, right, how do we initiate, how do
Speaker 2: we engage, how do we approach these nature spirits? How
Speaker 2: can be respectful? How can we leverage their magic, their
Speaker 2: gifts idents? And just take a look at that, because
Speaker 2: that's something that's our world's moves so fast, there's so
Speaker 2: much on our plate every day. Sometimes this is not
Speaker 2: something that we slow down enough to do. So that's
Speaker 2: what I want to talk.
Speaker 1: So I have a confession. So can I just start
Speaker 1: with my confession and my big lesson? And I think
Speaker 1: it will help kind of like really put a cherry
Speaker 1: on top of this conversation. And it's weird because I
Speaker 1: normally don't have shame about things, but I actually do
Speaker 1: about this story because it's so not who I am
Speaker 1: today and I don't even recognize who that was. And
Speaker 1: you were there, and you were there, because it really isn't.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to say it because I think it's
Speaker 1: important for people, especially parents, because I think in some
Speaker 1: ways I was a child when I did this, but
Speaker 1: even though I was forty three. So, Brenda, do you
Speaker 1: remember when you were in You and I were on
Speaker 1: the Universal Studio a lot and we were meeting your
Speaker 1: friend Kate Flannery there and there was a tree that
Speaker 1: we walked by and somebody had carved like initials or
Speaker 1: carved something on that and I reached down to go
Speaker 1: grab like a rock to go carve something. You said,
Speaker 1: don't you dare you grab my hand? Not do that?
Speaker 1: And you said, no, we don't do that. We do
Speaker 1: not treat or trees. They feel that we don't do that.
Speaker 1: And I will tell you as shameful as I am
Speaker 1: in that moment, because I am so a completely different
Speaker 1: person than I was then, that absolutely that moment changed
Speaker 1: how I looked at the world of nature, how looked
Speaker 1: at our world, and how I behave in that world
Speaker 1: now than I did then. And I'm grateful for the
Speaker 1: lesson because it completely changed me. So thank you and
Speaker 1: shame on me.
Speaker 2: And do you know that I would I didn't mean
Speaker 2: that in any sort of shaming way.
Speaker 1: Oh, no, it was me. It wasn't you with me.
Speaker 1: It's like we're breaking up. No, it's not you with me.
Speaker 1: It's not you with me. I swear to God, it's
Speaker 1: me has only thing. You absolutely did the right thing.
Speaker 1: And and also in a lot of cases I have
Speaker 1: to learn that way, and I also understand that. But
Speaker 1: but but the point is is that how we interact
Speaker 1: right is so crucial. How we how we can honor.
Speaker 1: And I wasn't honoring and I'm telling you, And it
Speaker 1: was after that, honestly. It was after that is when
Speaker 1: a big drought and that's when I started, uh taking
Speaker 1: care of Oliver.
Speaker 2: M oh. I love that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: Well. I mean literally, you're you're tattooing the tree, right,
Speaker 2: so you're cutting into their skin, I know, right, and
Speaker 2: it's there their barrier and it can induce disease and
Speaker 2: damage them and you know, not granted they have big,
Speaker 2: big spirits and and but you know, you just want
Speaker 2: to be really I wanted to be I always want
Speaker 2: to be respectful, which is.
Speaker 1: Why I wanted to start this conversation. This part of
Speaker 1: it like this is like, Okay, here's what not to
Speaker 1: do that I did. So let's go on to you know,
Speaker 1: the positive side of of of how we can be respectful.
Speaker 2: So you know, just the smallest ray system. My teachers
Speaker 2: in this area have been Siana and Jahanarah, who are
Speaker 2: my Santa's my yoga teacher. Johannarah is my Sufi teacher,
Speaker 2: and they studied together. Sianna was Johannah's uh student and
Speaker 2: studying herbs and so they're herbalists. So how they watching
Speaker 2: them move through the world of how they you know, well,
Speaker 2: will like pick an herb and smell it and crush
Speaker 2: it in their hands and rub it over their bodies
Speaker 2: and think the planet and think the plant and you know,
Speaker 2: think like all the elements coming together to create this.
Speaker 2: Like they moved through the world with such intention in
Speaker 2: this domain, it's it's extraordinary. And so you know, talking
Speaker 2: to plants, talking to animals, talking to animal spirits, like
Speaker 2: we have a family in the backyard of three deer
Speaker 2: that I literally lily isn't here today, So I just
Speaker 2: did it the back door while I was on a
Speaker 2: call and just waved to them.
Speaker 1: You know, that's amazing.
Speaker 2: And the thing is like one was looking at me
Speaker 2: and I started waving and just did blasting them with
Speaker 2: my heart, and the other two turned and looked even
Speaker 2: though I'm behind glass, like I'm behind a glass door,
Speaker 2: and so it was just interesting because I was just
Speaker 2: blasting them and you know, being entertained by their presence
Speaker 2: and you know, just anyhow so but they engage with you,
Speaker 2: just like when you you pass your hand over like
Speaker 2: a bunch of dill, like something that's very delicate, like you, oh,
Speaker 2: bless you, and I can smell you, and that brings
Speaker 2: so many good memories to me. And like you are
Speaker 2: exchanging energy with this plant and and just like you are,
Speaker 2: I am with the deer in the backyard. So you know,
Speaker 2: there's just small and big ways that are honoring them
Speaker 2: and uplifting your heart. And it's a lovely way to
Speaker 2: move and dance in the world.
Speaker 1: It is, as you would say, it's enchanting. You love
Speaker 1: to use the word chanting. It's one of my favorite
Speaker 1: words because of you. I use it all the time
Speaker 1: in my head. Either couldn't you be more enchanting who
Speaker 1: I'm looking at? Oh my god? Or this is enchanting?
Speaker 1: And you know I one of the things that I
Speaker 1: struggled with was because I'm so sensitive, is when there
Speaker 1: were dead wild animals or any animal inside of a road,
Speaker 1: right like every state has to deal with that, and
Speaker 1: I would be just mortified and all of that. And
Speaker 1: so you taught me to give them a blessing and
Speaker 1: thank them for being here. And so I walk around
Speaker 1: the planet these days thanking a lot of things for
Speaker 1: being here. Like we're having an early spring in New
Speaker 1: Mech and Santa Fe. We normally, you know, everybody, everybody
Speaker 1: but Tahoe had a very mild winter, and we already
Speaker 1: have blooms coming, like we already can see them. And
Speaker 1: I'll walk by them and I'll like kind of tuch
Speaker 1: like gently be like, thank you, you're amazing. You tell
Speaker 1: me that spring is here, you know, and you're going
Speaker 1: to be gorgeous. And it's like, and if anybody's watching me, anybody,
Speaker 1: what was a weirdo doing? Or they'd be like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I do that too, but it's just the it's just
Speaker 1: the like I'm glad that it's all here, even the
Speaker 1: stuff that scares me, like snakes, I avoid them, but
Speaker 1: you know what, glad you're here, you know, And I
Speaker 1: just think that it is it is grounding, and it
Speaker 1: makes me a better human. It makes me empathetic, It
Speaker 1: makes me very like in weird ways and how to
Speaker 1: say this right, so you'll correct me, but kind of
Speaker 1: put me in my place a bit, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, I think, yeah, they give us perspective, like we
Speaker 2: are so into instant gratification and so not patient, barely
Speaker 2: present in so much of our engagement. And the thing
Speaker 2: is when you see a you know, a bud and
Speaker 2: you're saying, I can't wait to check on you again
Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks, right, or a month or
Speaker 2: whatever it is, depending on what the plant is, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, thanks so much for coming. You're giving me hope,
Speaker 2: and like I can feel the earth warming and it's
Speaker 2: you know, I'm looking forward to this and you can't
Speaker 2: rush it, right, It's maybe it's so well, it's that perspective.
Speaker 2: There's there's a there's a there's an intelligence. There's a
Speaker 2: natural order, there's a natural rhythm, and we get so
Speaker 2: far away from it in all of our tech and
Speaker 2: all of our rushing and you know, electricity and things
Speaker 2: like that mask the natural rhythm.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. I was, of course, this synchronicity had
Speaker 1: to happen. I was actually on a phone call a
Speaker 1: work hall right before this, talking to this lovely young
Speaker 1: woman who's so like brilliant, like her brain is magnificent.
Speaker 1: And I said to her, I go, you know, just
Speaker 1: so you know, human nature actually doesn't change because of technology.
Speaker 1: I said, We're still there, the patterns are still there.
Speaker 1: We've always had distractions. We've always had we have been
Speaker 1: forced to remember in modern society things. So isn't that
Speaker 1: funny had that conversation about electronics and tech and all
Speaker 1: in social and all those things that are distractions. Like
Speaker 1: I choose taking my dog for a walk. That's my distraction,
Speaker 1: and it's even not even a distraction, it's a connection. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and yes, go ahead, Yeah, sorry.
Speaker 2: I was just And it is interesting because I think
Speaker 2: when we engage in nature, it brings us back to
Speaker 2: our own nature, right, whether you're tending to a garden
Speaker 2: or to an animal or to a child like. It
Speaker 2: brings us back to our own nature, and that's why
Speaker 2: it feels so good. It's it is grounding, its recentering,
Speaker 2: and yeah, it brings us back to our heart.
Speaker 1: Which is where we need to go because there's hard
Speaker 1: as shit, because it is, I mean it is. And
Speaker 1: I think that's why this was like this is a
Speaker 1: little bit of an ASMR I think episode for us.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's all kind of chill out. Let's go
Speaker 1: back to where we came from and those you know
Speaker 1: have try as you can't have more of those moments,
Speaker 1: you know, talk to people about your favorite tree and
Speaker 1: ask them what theirs is, you know, instead of what
Speaker 1: you're face, you know, and again not no judgment here,
Speaker 1: but instead of asking what's your favorite social media you know,
Speaker 1: which mine is none. But it's a different conversation you
Speaker 1: could have, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, bring bring yourself back to you know,
Speaker 2: what you enjoyed as a child like and see if
Speaker 2: you can how you can re engage at that level
Speaker 2: as an adult. That can be a fun way and
Speaker 2: a worthy exploration. As you know, the earth in North America,
Speaker 2: the earth is coming back alive, right with all these
Speaker 2: buds and all the greenery. It's it's you know, right
Speaker 2: in front of you. And how will you claim your
Speaker 2: own renewal by their inspiration.
Speaker 1: And be inspired? And it is a gift every day
Speaker 1: to be on this planet, even though some days it
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it exactly.
Speaker 2: So that's when we wanted to share with you today.
Speaker 2: We hope it was helpful. It was fun for.
Speaker 1: Us to totally I know.
Speaker 2: Thanks thanks for listening everybody, and remember our school.
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