WEBVTT - Tending Your Metaphorical Garden

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>me your Girl Danielle Moody not So live from the

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<v Speaker 1>Podstream Studios in Times Square. Folks, you know it. I

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<v Speaker 1>am out on vacation this week and I am taking

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<v Speaker 1>some much needed respite from the news, but I can't

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<v Speaker 1>leave all of you hanging. So I'm excited to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>today's show, which is going to be my conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>the fantastic and fabulous Christopher Griffin aka Plant Queen on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are not following Plant Queen with a K

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<v Speaker 1>W E N, I encourage you to do so. Their

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<v Speaker 1>posts are just magnificent and beautiful. Even if you are

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<v Speaker 1>not a plant parent like me, you will want to

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<v Speaker 1>take note of their fashion and their love of plants,

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<v Speaker 1>how to care for them, how to grow your indoor garden,

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<v Speaker 1>your outdoor jungle. Christopher and I will get into a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation today about what plants can teach us, the energy

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<v Speaker 1>that they provide, how we become more connected to ourselves

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<v Speaker 1>and our spirit, the gratitude that comes out of watching

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<v Speaker 1>things grow. And I hope that all of you will

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy my conversation with the Plant Queen Christopher Griffin that

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<v Speaker 1>you should follow at Plant Queen, plant kwee M on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>They are fantastic and I hope that you enjoy the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave me comments in the comment section, Folks, I am

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<v Speaker 1>so very excited to welcome to woke f for the

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<v Speaker 1>very first time, hopefully not the last time. In my head,

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<v Speaker 1>I plant bestie Christopher Griffin on Instagram known as plant

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<v Speaker 1>Queen k w e e N with an immense three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty three thousand followers. Can you just talk

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<v Speaker 1>to me first? I don't even know where to start,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to start with your plant journey. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the photos that you post are just absolutely spectacular. But

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<v Speaker 1>how did you get into gardening? How did you get

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<v Speaker 1>into get in touch with with plants and begin your journey? No,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, M. Well, first I would just say thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for inviting me to your platform, your show, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, and so yeah, you know, I really started

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<v Speaker 1>my plant parent journey when I was a little baby

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<v Speaker 1>queen growing up in West Philadelphia and my grandmother grew

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<v Speaker 1>up in Clayton, Georgia, and her mother had a farm,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you know, from the beginning of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>her childhood, my grandmother, uh was taught that nature was

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<v Speaker 1>something to be respected. UM, that was a part of

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<v Speaker 1>our you know, family's legacy, that it was healing. And

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<v Speaker 1>so she brought that with her when she came to

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<v Speaker 1>Philly to raise my mother and my uncle. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when my um, when my mother had me, I think

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<v Speaker 1>my grandmother knew that the magic that I had, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't realize at the time, right. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>as UM, black queer, non binary folks, the world tries

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<v Speaker 1>to m captain shadow over our power and our magic UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think my grandmother knew that I had

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<v Speaker 1>something special. And she welcomed me into her world of

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<v Speaker 1>gardening so willingly, so selfishly, and so we would go too.

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<v Speaker 1>We would have like these little and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>a sixth year old, a five year old hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with my grandmother, and it felt like we were just

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<v Speaker 1>like absolute besties. And she took me to some of

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<v Speaker 1>her favorite nurseries in Philadelphia, and she would let me take,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pick out some of the plans. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was such a light and joy that radiated from her

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<v Speaker 1>when she was in that space that I feel, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>really blessed that I was able to witness that and

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<v Speaker 1>that she shared those moments with me. And so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I really started with my grandmother. And my mother obviously

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<v Speaker 1>was also a big gardener as well. So um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my plant parent journey really stems from the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>powerful black women that I had in my life. And

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<v Speaker 1>so moved into an apartment about six years ago in

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<v Speaker 1>New York. It was my second apartment in Brooklyn, and

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<v Speaker 1>it had a skylight, it had south facing windows, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Darlin, this is I gotta use this

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<v Speaker 1>Oh like, I gotta use this face and so um,

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a little hardware store and I bought

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<v Speaker 1>I bought my first plant. I still have that queen

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<v Speaker 1>from Marble Queen Posthos. She's on the other side of

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<v Speaker 1>this wall and she's about nine feet long. Now wow,

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, it started this journey that I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>that I was going to go on, a journey of

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<v Speaker 1>exploring myself in ways that I can better care for myself,

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<v Speaker 1>A journey of exploring what kind of nurturer I am,

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<v Speaker 1>A journey of you know, really of tending not only

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<v Speaker 1>to my indoor garden, but the metaphorical garden that is

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<v Speaker 1>my you know, heart, mind, body, and soul. U. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now I have about two hundred and twenty three twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four plants and my little Brooklyn apartment and if less

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<v Speaker 1>you's ever Oh my god. Okay, So first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>you have just made me. I'm gonna take that sound

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<v Speaker 1>by it and send it to all my friends that

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<v Speaker 1>are telling me to stop buying plants, right because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that I think they're haters. They're like Danielle, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know where you're going to find room because my

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<v Speaker 1>entire coffee table and part of my living room is

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<v Speaker 1>an indoor jungle. Um, I I love it so much. UM,

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<v Speaker 1>talk to me about the ways in which you because

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds to me and I feel similarly in that

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<v Speaker 1>Karen for Plants has really helped me get in better

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<v Speaker 1>touch with my self care and you know it and

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<v Speaker 1>honestly really has been a part of my alignment and

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<v Speaker 1>understanding of like energy and how energy shifts space, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I see that with my plants on a

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<v Speaker 1>regular basis. Um, how has tending to as you said,

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<v Speaker 1>your actual garden and your metaphorical garden? How has that,

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<v Speaker 1>um come about? Like? How do you how do you

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<v Speaker 1>explain that journey. Yeah, you know, it was a particular

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<v Speaker 1>moment that I'm thinking of. And I'm a storyteller, so

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<v Speaker 1>if I if I thought ranton, then yeah, we can

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<v Speaker 1>pull me back. No. I love it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why, that's why you're here. You tell those you

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<v Speaker 1>tell those stories on the Instagram and I'm sitting there

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<v Speaker 1>just in rapture, so please go. Oh my goodness. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah'm thinking about this one particular moment where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I had accumulated a good amount of plants and this

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, that deck an apartment with and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. And you know, praise be to my my

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<v Speaker 1>roommates at the time because they put up with me

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<v Speaker 1>because my plans took over that space. We've I had

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<v Speaker 1>plants all over this space. Um, and my roommates for

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<v Speaker 1>patient with me, so God bless them. Um. But there

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<v Speaker 1>was a particular moment where I had accumulated enough plants

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<v Speaker 1>where I needed to start, Um, I needed a routine

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<v Speaker 1>to water them. Right, It's like, Okay, I have enough

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<v Speaker 1>of them. I have to build a routines. So I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, Sundays is going to be my day.

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<v Speaker 1>Sunday is going to be the day, I'm gonna, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>take a break from everything and really just be present

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<v Speaker 1>right now as a busybody, as an extrovert. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm quick to you know, oh y'all want to hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta you know, social gathering. I wouldn't and b um,

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<v Speaker 1>but I realized that, you know, extra virgin and intra

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<v Speaker 1>virgin is on a spectrum, right Um. And just because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an extrovert doesn't necessarily mean that I don't appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>shape and need my solitude. Right. So it sundays with

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<v Speaker 1>like my solitude moment. And so as I'm watering my plant,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I was like, oh, I say, this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is the work. Okay, you don't have a small amount.

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<v Speaker 1>It takes you through brunch like it. It's what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about. I'm like, you're starting at twelve o'clock, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>free mimosas, and by by four o'clock you're still out

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<v Speaker 1>there boring you better know my life? Who that is hilarious. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, So there was a moment I was like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>this is work. And then as I'm you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, giving my plants water, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like my I was like, I'm a little thirsty,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, why haven't I drinking water yet?

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I haven't been outside yet, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about the sunlight and where their place. And there

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<v Speaker 1>was a moment that switched in my head and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh, my goodness, like the same. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes it be a simple things, right, just things will

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<v Speaker 1>be right in front of our faces and it takes

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<v Speaker 1>its time to realize them, right, um, And so the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wow, you know, I'm always worried about

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of water and that my plants are hydrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to do that for a body too, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, I'm gonna I fertilize my plans

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<v Speaker 1>for a schedule and I'm very intentional about that. And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, well, I do for the nutrients that

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<v Speaker 1>my body needs to So I think that moment, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that day, my mother actually called me and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, I'm just having had some music on,

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<v Speaker 1>I had my memosa and I was having my moment,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, my mom called me and we had

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<v Speaker 1>like a little moment and she was showing me some

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<v Speaker 1>of her plants. I was showing her some of my

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<v Speaker 1>plants and you know, you remind me of your grandmother.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, the ootional moment and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're growing your garden, and so it was like, only

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<v Speaker 1>was that growing a green girl that I love in

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<v Speaker 1>a door, um, but I think she also meant like,

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<v Speaker 1>you're taking care of yourself and that's that's beautiful. So

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<v Speaker 1>so that was that was that was a moment um

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<v Speaker 1>and then yeah, it kind of just took off from

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<v Speaker 1>there where I was like, you know what, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to be protective of my energy, have to be protective

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<v Speaker 1>of um. You know how I navigate this world in

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<v Speaker 1>a way that um just feels good for me, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's so it's so important. I think it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that the older I get, the more that

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<v Speaker 1>my my both of my grandparents have passed away. But

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<v Speaker 1>the older I get, the more I realized that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>becoming like them. Right how people say you become your parents,

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<v Speaker 1>you become and God willing, you had good people around

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<v Speaker 1>you to emulate. But you know the care that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my grandfather took with his outdoor garden, with the with

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<v Speaker 1>the food garden, the care that my grandmother took with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the indoor garden. I'm, you know, a child

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<v Speaker 1>of immigrants. My family came to the United States from Jamaica,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, to create that essence of like tropics

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<v Speaker 1>and you know and greenery. Um, they did so by

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in so much beauty into the home, but then

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<v Speaker 1>also really teaching us to slow down as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the things that came up for you, Christopher,

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<v Speaker 1>because for a lot of folks, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>became plant parents during the pandemic, you know, during twenty twenty. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I did. It was when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're inside and you're like, I need to create the

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<v Speaker 1>beauty inside. Um that I used to go after outside.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for you, you know what came up for

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<v Speaker 1>you during during the during the pandemic. And I'm certain

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<v Speaker 1>your phone was probably ringing off the hook, people texting

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<v Speaker 1>me off the hook talking about child come over here

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<v Speaker 1>and help me because I needed to do something. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>about to lose my mind. No, um. Yeah, So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the pandemic was a very interesting time. I so there

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<v Speaker 1>was definitely more plants. I came into my space and

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<v Speaker 1>actually I had moved into this sphase in January, and

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<v Speaker 1>so there was still a lot for me to do

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<v Speaker 1>in this space and it kind of just became like

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<v Speaker 1>a little project. I was like, I need something to

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<v Speaker 1>think my mind into, um, and it became decorating and

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<v Speaker 1>greening up and making this space feel like home. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I kind of used my Instagram to like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of document that journey. And so yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the pandem MAC for me, honestly, just

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<v Speaker 1>decorating my space and making myself feel you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>was I think it was me doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>reflection and giving myself the time to just sit still

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<v Speaker 1>and learn how to enjoy my own company. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that was a big you know, and I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>been you know, parts of my life where I've been

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<v Speaker 1>you know, allowed myself to explore that, um, but it

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<v Speaker 1>had been a while since I've explored that with myself

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, this current time, in this current space

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<v Speaker 1>and where I was in my life at that particular time.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, my phone was blowing up, both you know,

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<v Speaker 1>personal friends and loved ones being like, girl, like I

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<v Speaker 1>need to make this space better for me. How can

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<v Speaker 1>I do that? And I was like, well, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>multitude of different ways, right. Um, you know, plants is

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<v Speaker 1>just one of the avenues that um, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can you know go down in terms of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>making a space feel like yours. Um. But I did

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of meditation. I started working out at home

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to craft that for myself. UM. I bought

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<v Speaker 1>a bike and started biking. UM. Started writing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>more um perst for myself. UM. And I'm a plantner,

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<v Speaker 1>so did a lot of like plant research. Started buying

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of plant books. UM, started doing some reading. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, but I think the core of the pandemic

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of what you said in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>just learning to slow down and just reanalyzing, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the things that were you know in my life, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>dreams that I had, you know, put aside, and being

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<v Speaker 1>like let me dust those all and like, let's revisit

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<v Speaker 1>some of those dreams to see if those are ones

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to embark one now. Analyzing my own fears

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<v Speaker 1>and anxieties and you know, just really coming to peace

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<v Speaker 1>with where I was and enjoying and appreciating the journey. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a quote that I read that we

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<v Speaker 1>need to appreciate, we need to appreciate how temporary things are. Yea,

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<v Speaker 1>So it was I was trying to like really just

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<v Speaker 1>exist in the moment and honestly just let my my

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<v Speaker 1>being guide me through what I needed. That is it

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