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Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA F Daily with

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Speaker 1: me your Girl Danielle Moody not So live from the

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Speaker 1: Podstream Studios in Times Square. Folks, you know it. I

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Speaker 1: am out on vacation this week and I am taking

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Speaker 1: some much needed respite from the news, but I can't

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Speaker 1: leave all of you hanging. So I'm excited to introduce

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Speaker 1: today's show, which is going to be my conversation with

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Speaker 1: the fantastic and fabulous Christopher Griffin aka Plant Queen on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: If you are not following Plant Queen with a K

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Speaker 1: W E N, I encourage you to do so. Their

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Speaker 1: posts are just magnificent and beautiful. Even if you are

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Speaker 1: not a plant parent like me, you will want to

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Speaker 1: take note of their fashion and their love of plants,

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Speaker 1: how to care for them, how to grow your indoor garden,

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Speaker 1: your outdoor jungle. Christopher and I will get into a

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Speaker 1: conversation today about what plants can teach us, the energy

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Speaker 1: that they provide, how we become more connected to ourselves

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Speaker 1: and our spirit, the gratitude that comes out of watching

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Speaker 1: things grow. And I hope that all of you will

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Speaker 1: enjoy my conversation with the Plant Queen Christopher Griffin that

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Speaker 1: you should follow at Plant Queen, plant kwee M on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: They are fantastic and I hope that you enjoy the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Leave me comments in the comment section, Folks, I am

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Speaker 1: so very excited to welcome to woke f for the

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Speaker 1: very first time, hopefully not the last time. In my head,

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Speaker 1: I plant bestie Christopher Griffin on Instagram known as plant

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Speaker 1: Queen k w e e N with an immense three

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty three thousand followers. Can you just talk

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Speaker 1: to me first? I don't even know where to start,

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Speaker 1: but I want to start with your plant journey. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the photos that you post are just absolutely spectacular. But

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Speaker 1: how did you get into gardening? How did you get

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Speaker 1: into get in touch with with plants and begin your journey? No,

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Speaker 1: of course, M. Well, first I would just say thank

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Speaker 1: you for inviting me to your platform, your show, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you, and so yeah, you know, I really started

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Speaker 1: queen growing up in West Philadelphia and my grandmother grew

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Speaker 1: her childhood, my grandmother, uh was taught that nature was

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Speaker 1: something to be respected. UM, that was a part of

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Speaker 1: when my um, when my mother had me, I think

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Speaker 1: my grandmother knew that the magic that I had, UM,

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Speaker 1: as UM, black queer, non binary folks, the world tries

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Speaker 1: And so I think my grandmother knew that I had

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Speaker 1: so moved into an apartment about six years ago in

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Speaker 1: I bought my first plant. I still have that queen

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Speaker 1: And yeah, it started this journey that I didn't know

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Speaker 1: A journey of you know, really of tending not only

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Speaker 1: you's ever Oh my god. Okay, So first of all,

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Speaker 1: you have just made me. I'm gonna take that sound

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Speaker 1: think that I think they're haters. They're like Danielle, I

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Speaker 1: don't know where you're going to find room because my

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Speaker 1: an indoor jungle. Um, I I love it so much. UM,

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Speaker 1: it sounds to me and I feel similarly in that

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Speaker 1: Karen for Plants has really helped me get in better

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Speaker 1: honestly really has been a part of my alignment and

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Speaker 1: understanding of like energy and how energy shifts space, right,

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Speaker 1: your actual garden and your metaphorical garden? How has that,

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Speaker 1: um come about? Like? How do you how do you

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Speaker 1: explain that journey. Yeah, you know, it was a particular

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Speaker 1: moment that I'm thinking of. And I'm a storyteller, so

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Speaker 1: pull me back. No. I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 1: That's why, that's why you're here. You tell those you

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Speaker 1: tell those stories on the Instagram and I'm sitting there

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Speaker 1: but yeah'm thinking about this one particular moment where you know,

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Speaker 1: It takes you through brunch like it. It's what I'm

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Speaker 1: thinking about. I'm like, you're starting at twelve o'clock, you know,

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Speaker 1: what are some of the things that came up for you, Christopher,

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Speaker 1: because for a lot of folks, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: And so for you, you know what came up for

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Speaker 1: the pandemic was a very interesting time. I so there

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