1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Welcome Ember, we went to another edition of Orlando Magic 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,960 Speaker 1: Pod Squad. The Squad is back together again and of 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 1: course Pod Squad has brought to you by the Flida 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Department of Transportation. Reminds you that fans don't let fans 5 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: drive drunk. If you've been drinking, don't get behind the wheel. Instead, 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,120 Speaker 1: find a sober driver or catch a ride service. Remember, 7 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: drive sober or get pulled over. Have a great night 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: in drive Sea. On this edition of Magic Pod Squad, 9 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: we catch up with one of our absolute favorites, former 10 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: Magic player Ryan Anderson. Recently in town. He was part 11 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: of a panel to introduce our retro uniforms, our Jersey launch, 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: our Court launch, and he hosted a panel with Tito Turkulu, 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: Rishard Lewis and others. But we had a cheaance to 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: reminisce about his time here in city beautiful and it 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: was a great conversation, this organization, this city, his time 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: with the Orlando Magic by far the best stop on 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: his NBA career, and he gets into all of that 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: and why he loved Orlando so much, why so hard 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: when he got traded to the New Orleans Pelicans, And 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: we talked about life off the court as well, lots 21 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 1: to get into a fun episode of Magic. Pod Squad 22 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: with Ryan Anderson comes your way. 23 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: Now does his fawns long enough to Orlando Magic. 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: This is Cole. 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: Anthony, This is Jennon Suggs, This is PAULA Man Carroll 26 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 2: the Orlando Magic and you're listening to the Pod Squad. 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to another edition of Orlando Magic Pod Squad. 28 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: Dante Marcatelli, George Galate, he played twelve NBA seasons three 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: right here in city beautiful and my notes. George said 30 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: that he's he's retired. That he is. He was not 31 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: in there, retired, fully retired. Ryan Anderson, Yeah, little joining us. 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: You didn't play last year at all. No, no, no. 33 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: A lot of people look confused. You know, they thought 34 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 2: they saw me out there. 35 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: I get I did. 36 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: I countless of times on the streets any city I 37 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: go to, they think I played in their city. 38 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: I just I have a face. I think I have 39 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: a face. You know, it's weird. 40 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 3: I texted him like twice last year, good game. I 41 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 3: just texted him a good game. 42 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Ry. 43 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: I think I just thumbs up that you know, yes, yeah, 44 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 2: but we're just time goal twelve NBA seed. 45 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: Come on, think about touring. 46 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: So we're touring the facility. 47 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: Here we allowed to have been held out. We'll get 48 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: into it. What a okay, yeah, we'll get into it later. 49 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 2: But what an incredible facility. What a They had to 50 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 2: wait Me and Richard are touring around. They had to 51 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 2: wait till we left to build something like this. 52 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: Of course, you know, guys brought the money in to 53 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: allow it, you know, what to happen. 54 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 2: I was. I was in a hard hat at the 55 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 2: Ways Center that was getting built and that I still 56 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: that's still my favorite practice facility is still my favorite 57 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: way room training area. I mean, my fondest memories in 58 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 2: the NBA were here. You guys know that, no secret, 59 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean, but this place is another level 60 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: incredible spot. 61 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: But I don't even know. 62 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: Why I got into that. Why didn't we get into that? 63 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Because you can't believe George and I, Oh, oh what 64 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry? What I yeah? Yeah? 65 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: No, what I was going to say is what I 66 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 2: was going to say is I came here. It was 67 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: my second year in the NBA fifteen years ago. 68 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Man, amazing, think about that. 69 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: You talked, you said, time for correct to me that's 70 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 3: like wow, that really it really does put things in perspective. 71 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: We we we sat with Tracy McGrady a while a 72 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, and it was the same thing 73 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 3: where we're looking back. 74 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: He's still a name dropper as me. Oh Ti Mercury. 75 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 3: Anyway, when I golf with Penny Hart away then we 76 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: said no, but we we were talking about things he 77 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 3: had accomplished. And then you look back at the lines 78 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 3: and it's like, wait, that was two thousand and two. Yeah, 79 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 3: and that was twenty two years ago. And Dante and 80 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: I still have the same positions that we had, and 81 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: you would think we would have a little more, you know, 82 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: ambition in life just said to do something else. 83 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 2: You guys just have you gotta just amp up the 84 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: work ethic email. I just see I see you guys. 85 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 2: You know, I wearing the same clothes you wore fifteen. 86 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: Years able to save and I got traded. 87 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: I had toolo, Right, that's your sad Polo. 88 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: That day was a sad day for us. Right. I 89 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: have a doubt as the worst traded in the history 90 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: that I will have the record on all the record, 91 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: and that's no knock on Gustavo I own. 92 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 2: I think he was a grill into that whole time frame, 93 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: and really will I wish for the for the if 94 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: there's a huge Orlando Magic fan out there that's that's 95 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: listening to this and cares at all about that time frame. 96 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:32,239 Speaker 2: In my world, I could talk for fifteen hours about 97 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: that time frame because I thought for sure I was 98 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: going to resign here. You know, I had my best season. Yeah, 99 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: course in my career. At that point, we were successful. 100 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: We still had our roots. Obviously there was some turmoil 101 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: within the team and stuff, but I had a house 102 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 2: I was about to buy out. Ere my whole life 103 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: would have just it's so crazy. One little trade. I 104 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: didn't even get offered a deal that was I was 105 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 2: just as sign and trade in New Orleans. Just see 106 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: you later, you easy, Yeah, have a good time. And uh, 107 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: well what are you when you think bad? 108 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: I want to get into we'll get into what you're 109 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: doing now and all that stuff. But when you what 110 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: did you know about Orlando when you came here? Right? 111 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: Man? 112 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: You come here the team had just gone to the finals, 113 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: and now bag yeah, you're you're coming down here to 114 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: this team too. 115 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: I was on a golf course. I get a call 116 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 2: that I'm I am getting traded, and it's a shocker, 117 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 2: It's a gut punch. It's a crazy experience when you 118 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 2: because no team is just going to bring you on, 119 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 2: especially when they have some kind of scope of a 120 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 2: plan for you and say, you know, you might just 121 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 2: be here for one year or something. You know, and 122 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 2: back then deals if you if you had a four 123 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: year deal, most likely you were going to live out 124 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: your deal. It's not like nowadays, like instant gratification. One 125 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: guy's in, one guys out. 126 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: But I've been in New Jersey. Party wasn't like I'm 127 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: in yeah, you know what. 128 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: No, I've lived in so many different cities and I 129 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: just learned to love them. I learned I really love Yeah. 130 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 2: Jersey had its things, but I found things that I 131 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 2: loved about. But then I get this trade and I'm 132 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: kind of initial response, it's this panic mode and it's crazy. 133 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: Like next call Vince Carter on my phone. And I 134 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: was in the trade with Vince right right, And I 135 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: remember I'm talking to him kind of in this like 136 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 2: I have no idea what a trade like. He was 137 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: always so thoughtful to me in that way. 138 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why he kind. 139 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: Of always had this big brother Vince' mentality with me. 140 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: Vince Carter, Yeah, the best guy, the best veteran I 141 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: ever experienced. But he told me this is going to 142 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 2: be a great thing for us, This is going to 143 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: be a great thing for you, and. 144 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 1: This is great. 145 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: This is you know, a veteran, I think ten eleven 146 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: years in the league at that point, telling you that 147 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 2: definitely gave you some comfort. But to think, you know, 148 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: then the next process of thought goes to, Wow, these 149 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: guys just went to the finals, and I'm going on, 150 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 2: I'm going to join this team and there's gonna be 151 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: some high expectations. So man, I very quickly I fell 152 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 2: in love with the idea of coming to Orlando. And 153 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: then obviously, as you know, I just fell in love 154 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 2: with every aspect of living here and enjoyed every every 155 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: minute of it. 156 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 3: So what's that conversation like when you first come here 157 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 3: with with say Otis Smith, who traded for you and 158 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: for Vince, and obviously you know at the time Vince 159 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 3: was the probably the main part of that trade. But 160 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: what's that conversation between you and Otis and the rest 161 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 3: and and Stan probably on what your role is going 162 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: to be and how you're going to fit in because that, 163 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 3: you know, as you stayed here longer, your role obviously 164 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: got bigger and you turned into a fantastic player for us. 165 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 166 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: I mean my process here developed my whole career, and 167 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 2: it was necessary for me. I think, you know, it's funny. 168 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 2: I talked to March and Gore, Todd and JJ Reddick 169 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: when I first came in, and in the two previous years, 170 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 2: those guys were kind of the for a lack of 171 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 2: better term, like the whipping boys, you know, kind of. 172 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: No doubt about that, right, that guys. It brought to stage. Yeah, yeah, 173 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: But and I was that guy. 174 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 2: I came in and I took it. It was tough 175 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: for me. I never experienced a coach like Stan. There's 176 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: a specific moment where I'm standing maybe two inches off 177 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: the free throw line corner, and Rashard's guarding me. Who 178 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: you know, a veteran guy could do no wrong. 179 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: I'm the young guy. 180 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: I am two inches from He said, stand on the 181 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: free throw line corner, and I go two inches from it, 182 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: stand on the free throw line corner. I move over 183 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: like I am standing on the free throw line corner. 184 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 2: My foot wasn't enough on the his attention to detail 185 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 2: for me, his moments just that where it was like, 186 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: there's nothing I'm doing that's good enough. I thought he 187 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 2: hated me. I thought I was holding the team back. 188 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: What it was is he wanted to push me to 189 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 2: my limit to build me up. And eventually, when I remember, 190 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 2: I got my first pat on the We probably may 191 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: have talked about this story because this is like my 192 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: favorite coach moment, coaching moment, but I got a pat 193 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: on the butt from Stan coming out of a game 194 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: that first year. I was there and I'm like, wow, 195 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: I actually did something right, you know, instead of a 196 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: coach just praising you all along the course. But I 197 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: mean you earned it. You felt you or I felt 198 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: I earned it. And so the process for me come 199 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 2: into this team, it developed my character. It developed me 200 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,200 Speaker 2: as a player without question, just being around so many 201 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: great veterans and and opportunities just came. And my second year, 202 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 2: actually I was told if I show up every every day, 203 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: if I come in the summer, you know, put my 204 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 2: work in, I'm gonna have a chance to start, you 205 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 2: know that for my second season. And I did all that. 206 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 2: I worked my tail off and they saw it, and 207 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, Brandon Bass was here at 208 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 2: the time, right, And they played Brandon in front of 209 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 2: me for the first half of the season, and I'm like, what, 210 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: I didn't even play. But that's another moment. It's like 211 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: testing me to see where I'm at. That there was 212 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 2: a plan for me here. They ended up making all 213 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: these trades mid season to give me the opportunity, right, 214 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: and from there the rest is history. And man, but 215 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 2: I think that's why it's so valuable for teams to 216 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 2: kind of you can't expect success from guys for one year. 217 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 2: It takes time to build, absolutely, you know. And I 218 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 2: had that here, but I only wish it could have 219 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: lasted longer. 220 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you, Well you did those 221 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: three years. But that that nine to ten team we 222 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: talk about, you know, obviously the O nine team went 223 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: to the finals. That team was as good, if not better. 224 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: I say, it's better, right I I you know, I 225 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: die on that ledge, right, He's gonna say differently, but 226 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 1: I think that's right, that's true. 227 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 3: You know, obviously thinks the nine team was better. I 228 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: to this day think that the twenty ten team was better. 229 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: As you sweep through Atlanta and Charlotte in the first round, 230 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: right going into Boston with home court advantage. Are you 231 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: not thinking, here we go again. 232 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 3: Are these wounds healed yet? Because well not for me. 233 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 3: I like I feel like I'm having a little flashback here. 234 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't still that phenomenal year. But you're right, 235 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: it does feel recent. 236 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it definitely is ingrained in my mind, 237 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: especially sweeping those first two rounds, and the talent we 238 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: had was it was incredible. The hype we had that 239 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 2: season and then just maybe even overachieving that hype. I mean, 240 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 2: without question, everybody thought we're gonna go back to the finals. 241 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 2: But Boston was so good and they had the super 242 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 2: team and they had their their guys. 243 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 5: You know that they weren't as good as us I 244 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 5: saw on paper, maybe not, but they just had weapons 245 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 5: that were so compelled against and and yeah, I mean 246 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 5: that was a very odd experience to sweep round one 247 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 5: and two and then get swept because we got. 248 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 3: Was four two, but four two, but we went down 249 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 3: three three. It just felt like a sweet because of 250 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 3: the way we got kicked. 251 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: That's that's how good mind me. It's so burned ingrained 252 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 2: in mind. 253 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: See it's saying it hurts you so much it feels 254 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: like we got swept. 255 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: Oh it it actually does because it I think just 256 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 2: the of the expectation of just making it straight back 257 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: to the finals and winning again. We man, that team 258 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 2: was such a tight knit unit, and that was my 259 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:15,119 Speaker 2: favorite team I've ever played on. Absolutely the most talented, 260 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 2: most best coached, most on the same page group. And 261 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: I mean you look at that roster. We had guys 262 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 2: that you know, it's funny you when we're here. You 263 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: know my experience with guys like Gore, Todd or JJ 264 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 2: or or you know, all these guys were kind of 265 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: even myself first coming out, we were sort of like 266 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: lower guys on the bench. These guys became stars on 267 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: other teams point they so we had, of course Orlando 268 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: help build up these guys talent and and they were 269 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 2: pushed to get the best most out of them. I 270 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: think being here helped them in their career. But they 271 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 2: became great player, They became starters and great players on 272 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: other teams. So, yeah, our roster was insane that season. 273 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: What do you remember about the city that year when 274 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 3: the when we were making those runs, just the just 275 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 3: the vibe around town and and everything about Orlando at 276 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 3: that point. 277 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 2: I'm so biased to those years, and it's it's odd 278 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:15,319 Speaker 2: coming back here ever so often, you know, obviously getting 279 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: traded and and you know, coming back to the city 280 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,359 Speaker 2: and downtown changed a lot. There's so much new construction 281 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: here and the city itself has developed a ton. But 282 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: while I was here, I just feel like it was 283 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 2: it was so such a special time and the city, 284 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 2: the city's always embraced the team and loved the team. 285 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: But it's but I've never experienced anything like that, the 286 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 2: devotion and the fan love from those years. And if 287 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 2: anybody ever does come up to me, which is like 288 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,240 Speaker 2: fairly rare, but if anybody comes up to me about 289 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 2: basketball type things, it's generally an Orlando Magic fan and 290 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: I loved I loved you in Orlando or something, and 291 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 2: I it's like we had such a tight knit fan 292 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: base and the city was so backing of the team, 293 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: blue and black and white everything. Yeah, you go downtown 294 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 2: after games and awesome, everybody's happy and alive. And it's funny. 295 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: It's like my four Rivers barbecue. It was a construct. 296 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 2: It was like just a hole in the wall. You guys, 297 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 2: remember construction workers came to just pick up barbecue from 298 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: this hole in the wall. I drive by it every 299 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 2: day to go home because I lived in winter Park, 300 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: and like you come back and now there's four rivers everywhere. 301 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: It's like but back in the day, back in the day, 302 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: but all these cool that It just to me it 303 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 2: felt like I was here through So. I know, I'm 304 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: involving four rivers in with the Orlando matches, but I 305 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: freaking love that ar Fey restaurant. Yes it's great, No, 306 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 2: but just so many great things we're here. I loved 307 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: the season ticket holder events, we'd go to Epcot or something, 308 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: or we'd just living here was so much fun to me. 309 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: I love a piece of my heart is in winter 310 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: Park for the rest of my life. I love that city. 311 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 2: I love Winter Park av I love the restaurants there. Anyway. 312 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: You know, I know we've joked I joked about not 313 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: really joked about it, but I mean that was then 314 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: you fast forward to twenty twelve. I mean you've kind 315 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: of alluded to it already. Is that what made it 316 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: so hard? You now you have a connection, and that's 317 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: that's the tough thing about this business. In general, I 318 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: would think right for anybody, there's attachment to a fan base, 319 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: to a town. You have friends here, you have a routine, 320 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: and you want to see it through, and we wanted you. 321 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 1: There was no logical explanation for not bringing it back. 322 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: I don't have. But a brand new man came in. 323 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: I don't know. 324 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: They had a different plan. 325 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 2: They wanted to build it a younger uh, you know, 326 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 2: a younger twenties. I know, I know that's what That's 327 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 2: what they told me, man, that's all they told me. 328 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: Oh we want to start, we don't. 329 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: And also there was a lot of question there were 330 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 2: tons of questions whether or not I'd be able to 331 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: perform at the same or better. 332 00:15:54,720 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 6: Level without Dwighthight interesting and so in a lot of way, 333 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 6: twenty points a game in New Orleans, yeah, and in 334 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 6: a lot of ways, I was like a chip on 335 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 6: my shoulder. 336 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: Though It's like anyway, defensively, without question, Dwight was the 337 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 2: greatest person to have your back. Ever, sure you know 338 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 2: I'd be guarding these guys, Tim Duncan's, Kevin Garnett's, I'm 339 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 2: not afraid to gard him because I know my boys 340 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: got my back there. That was the greatest. 341 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: You were fearless defender. 342 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: When Dwight was, Yeah, I would fearless one of them 343 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 2: just in the running for a time and now all 344 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: always all defensive, always so, but but like that was 345 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: the Dwight that was MVP. One of the best players 346 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 2: in NBA, Dwight, and it was incredible night in the 347 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 2: night out to see that guy be on the same 348 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: court with that guy just every rebound, every block shot, 349 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 2: just an absolute one of the first guys I was 350 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: ever I'm gonna give this guy forty and twenty tonight, 351 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: and they'd give him forty five and twenty five. 352 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: You know, It's like he would say that, he would 353 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: tell you everybody gay that. 354 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: In the locker room sometimes there'd be like, I remember 355 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 2: DeAndre Jordan. Everybody kind of had a comparison between DeAndre 356 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: and Dwight, and DeAndre is younger, coming up, kind of 357 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 2: finding his way in the league. And I don't want 358 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: to make this story up to us, but from what 359 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: I remember, DeAndre was, you know, getting in a getting 360 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: kind of a Guinness swagger a little bit, having some success, 361 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 2: and Dwight was like, I am I'm not gonna let 362 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 2: this kid, you know. 363 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 1: Have his moment. You know, I'm going to show him 364 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: not tonight. It's not gonna be it. 365 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: And that was like fifty and thirty, you know or whatever. 366 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: It's like she's but he could do that, He could 367 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 2: do that. That was never a world I could ever do. 368 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 2: I could never Those are the special but most case, 369 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 2: so few guys have been around that could do that. 370 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,639 Speaker 2: But but yeah, I mean all defense for me, so 371 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: the fact that so the fact that Dwight's not wasn't 372 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 2: named on the All the anniversary. He's a robbery. Man, 373 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,359 Speaker 2: It's a robbery. And from my explanation, and the great 374 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 2: thing about being out of the game now is I 375 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 2: can talk a little bit more than not political about 376 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 2: this kind of stuff. But it's a complete robbery. And 377 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 2: I think it's just based off of just things that 378 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:15,719 Speaker 2: may have happened in public appearance or or in the media, 379 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: you know, later in later parts of his career. Because 380 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 2: the Dwight we all love and remember, and the career 381 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: that he's continued to have and now obviously winning a 382 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 2: championship and having what else does the guy have to 383 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 2: prove he's without question, one of the top centers ever 384 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 2: played the game, and there's guys that were on there 385 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: that that I don't think Dwight should have been passed 386 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: you know, have should have passed up Dwight. You know, but. 387 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: Who makes well that's over here, so he still aside. 388 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: I just can't stand that side. You've got to clear 389 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: this up for us. Ever since you left, George has 390 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: taken and he's not afraid to. He takes credits for 391 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: he takes medication. 392 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 2: He takes medication, depression, medica. 393 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I still can't get over it. 394 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I I cry myself the slid of surgery 395 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: thirty years ago, I still think. But anyway, but anyway, 396 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: credit for your Most Improved Player Award in twenty twelve. 397 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: For the politicking that he did. Yeah, I think you 398 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: had something to do with it, with the year that 399 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: you had, which he did, which he did, I Georgia credit. 400 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: But listen, I still say that that is one of 401 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 3: the PR departments that's easily top two accomplishments. Not that 402 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 3: we accomplished it, But what I'm saying is is that saying. 403 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 2: I accomplished what I did, and that's. 404 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 3: But listen, like, by what would you do you want? 405 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: I could just give it will you send it to me? 406 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 3: I still live at the same house. Okay, so, but 407 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 3: would you ever thought that I thought you had a 408 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: shot when we were, when we were doing what you know, 409 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 3: sending out some emails and whatever else, I thought you 410 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 3: had a shot. But to win it, by the it 411 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 3: was not close. The voting was not close that year. 412 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: If you remember to me, I was. I don't know 413 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: if I paid much attention to that stuff. You didn't. 414 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: You didn't, which was good. 415 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 2: I feel like I was just so happy to have 416 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: a great role on a great team, and I wanted 417 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 2: to get another contract to continue to play. 418 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: At the time. 419 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if at the time they were doing 420 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: like seven year deals still or five year deal. I 421 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: wanted to. 422 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: Sign whatever it was money. 423 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 2: I just want to be here. Yeah, right, Seriously, that's 424 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: the craziest part about it. I was talking to my 425 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 2: agent and literally the GM at the time. I was 426 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: like this close to just saying, if you're not comfortable paying, 427 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 2: I was going to take a severe pay cut, and 428 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 2: I almost regret not doing that. I would have taken 429 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 2: way less money to stick to stay. 430 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: But now I'm getting sad all over it. 431 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: No, no, no, I regret not making those phone calls 432 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: or having discussions about how much I wanted to stay. 433 00:20:59,320 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 2: You know, but. 434 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: Are you But I mean, look at the jacket you're 435 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: wearing right now, Ryan, are you nor No? No, no, 436 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: But like it, dude. 437 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: Once I left this city, my life changed dramatic, That's true. 438 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: So a lot of my. 439 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 2: Youth and my innocence and just sort of my being 440 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: a young man. 441 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 3: Dissolved after I went away fast. 442 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: I went away quick, and so a lot of change, 443 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: a lot of that, you know, for anybody that knows 444 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: my story. And I'm happy talking about it, and we'll 445 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: talk about the podcast, I'm sure later. I want to. 446 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,479 Speaker 2: You know, suicide, a suicide happened in my life with 447 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,160 Speaker 2: the girl that I was dating in New Orleans, and 448 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 2: and that happened within the first year I was in 449 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: New Orleans, and so she lived here in Orlando my 450 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: last year we were we didn't live together, but we 451 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: lived in the same city and our different apartments, but 452 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 2: we you know, we fell in love with this city together. 453 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 2: You know. 454 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: So when that something like that. 455 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 2: Happens, you your life dramatically changes into like the fight 456 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: or flight mode and you have to go right into. 457 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: Okay, who am I now? And how deal with this? 458 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 2: So life changed a lot heading forward into I'm not 459 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 2: saying that obviously the trade caused all of this stuff, 460 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 2: but it's sure, sure man, My it's that just makes 461 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: my time here even that much more special because it 462 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,959 Speaker 2: was like the roots of all of my innocence and like, 463 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: you know, being a becoming a man happened here. 464 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: But but sorry, that was quite a bit of a segue. 465 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: But go ahead. Do you think about that? Do you 466 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: allow yourself time now to go back and reflect on 467 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 1: that and that that was such a I mean, I 468 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: can't even imagine, right, And we've talked about it about 469 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: it not on air, right obviously, you know, and what 470 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 1: you've been through is just is amazing what you've been 471 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: able to overcome, it really is. 472 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: But you have also opened up to me with things 473 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: as well, and that's what's most important. And talking about 474 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 2: this this stuff that's a very stigma type topic. It's 475 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,440 Speaker 2: not something that it doesn't just come naturally to talk 476 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: about it. You have to just you have to understand 477 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: what the mission is here, you know, and the mission 478 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: is to help people, and you have to move forward 479 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 2: and you have to check on and figure out the 480 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 2: best way you can use your platform or whatever that 481 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 2: platform might be, to help people or just to communicate 482 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 2: whatever it is you're going through mental health stuff. Yeah, obviously, 483 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: every single person I've ever talked to about the suicide 484 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: topic has had some sort of a thought or some 485 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 2: sort of a moment where it's entered their mind. Not 486 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: if they're going to do it or not, but it's life. 487 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:50,880 Speaker 1: Man. 488 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: There's tough things that happen in life, and it's something 489 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: that's it's just sort of pushed aside, like we're all 490 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,719 Speaker 2: supposed to behave like these perfect people on Instagram and 491 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,199 Speaker 2: have these you know, watch these shows on TV that 492 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: are reality shows, but they are not real life. And 493 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: for me, I want to talk about it. I want 494 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: to use my I think my greatest I was talking 495 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: about this this morning with a buddy of mine. My 496 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 2: greatest talent and gift in life is my vulnerability. I 497 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: think that is my one thing that I am proud 498 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: to say that I am comfortable being vulnerable and I 499 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 2: want to talk about this stuff and help people. 500 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: And you are. That's unbelievable. You are know that, but 501 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,880 Speaker 1: to know that, but let everybody know you're so you're 502 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,239 Speaker 1: going to come out with a part where you're going 503 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: to do that. You've got a podcast coming out where 504 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: you Is that what we can expect of these vulnerable conversations? Absolutely? 505 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. The the intention of this. So this started buddy 506 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: of mine, Brady Howe and I. He works with the 507 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 2: Sons and he's very passionate about the mental health topic 508 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 2: and he's trying to within that the organization sort of 509 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: waken up or and even in the NBA he's talking 510 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 2: with a bunch of other teams. I think I think 511 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 2: that it's a greatly looked over aspect in the game 512 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 2: right now. 513 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,360 Speaker 1: I really wouldn't you. I mean, oh yeah for sure, 514 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: because you look at. 515 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 2: This facility you guys have here. It's incredible. I mean 516 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: I toured everything. There's not a place though where you know. 517 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 2: I not like you have to have a therapist office, 518 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: but there needs to be accessibility and these people need 519 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 2: to be a part of the team, a part of 520 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: the staff, introduced like family, like even you guys are 521 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: with the players. This guy can't just be oh, here's 522 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,359 Speaker 2: there's so and so over there mandatory by Adam Silver 523 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: just put in place, let's go. You could talk to 524 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: him when you want. Nobody in the NBA is going 525 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 2: to go and talk to them. Maybe a rare case 526 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 2: here and there. So for me, we've been talking to 527 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 2: By the way, we have a number of episodes uh 528 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: uh fully completed and we're waiting for the right timing 529 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 2: to release. We want to get a little bit more apilate. 530 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: We have plans next month to record a few more, 531 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 2: so this is going to be coming out of the 532 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: next few months. I'm really excited about it because it's 533 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 2: I just want to have real conversations with real people. 534 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: Who are these athletes, not real conversations with athletes or 535 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 2: or not just conversations with athletes. You know what I'm saying, Like, 536 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 2: how many more times do we need to have the 537 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,959 Speaker 2: debate of is Michael Jordan or Lebron James the greatest 538 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: basketball player ever? 539 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: You get crossed that off your list? 540 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 3: Hold on, I come with a lot of notes and 541 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 3: that that actually was on the top of my list. 542 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 1: So that's but there's not a lot of these covers 543 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:28,920 Speaker 1: the being had. 544 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 2: I think it's great, right, So we're going to have 545 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: some guests on that are are you know, it's not 546 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 2: just mental health. We want to talk about how to 547 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: perform at the greatest level. And some of the as 548 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 2: to do with mental health. Some of it is tips. 549 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 2: You know, we have some awesome, awesome people that are 550 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: doing stuff with the UFC and that have breathing techniques 551 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: and you know, just things that you can really take 552 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 2: home as a listener. And I think we'll at the 553 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 2: end of the day. I want to do this to 554 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: help people. So if we can have one listener have 555 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 2: a tip or you know, be be open to being 556 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: more vulnerable to talk about what they're going on, what's 557 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: going on in their life and that's personal. 558 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: When does it When does this debut? When can we 559 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 3: expect the podcast? 560 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 2: I so we tentatively in the next like two months, 561 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 2: we'll have it up, but I will I would love 562 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 2: if you don't mind. 563 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: I'd love to like let you guys know, gosh, absolutely. 564 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,639 Speaker 2: Maybe you can you listeners be awesome to know. 565 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: What's it called we do? We have a title called 566 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: the Session. 567 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 2: So you didn't want to be like therapy session, but 568 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 2: the session kind of like you know. 569 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: So you're cutting your chops as an interviewer, right, you 570 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,959 Speaker 1: get absolute drag information out of people. Absolutely a second 571 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: career learn I mean, are you surprised. I'm surprised. 572 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 4: Men. 573 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: They're in another. 574 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 2: World also, and we've talked about this, yes, three of us. 575 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 2: I would have played here, you know, retire, retired, had 576 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: my the house in winter Park, were me and each 577 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 2: other for lunch. 578 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: You know, if you still drive by that house, I 579 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 1: know we you know never there. 580 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 3: You and I was planning on living in the little 581 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: apartment above the garage. 582 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't know been together. 583 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: Don ded Hagen and Dunkin Donuts we had the I 584 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: don't want to throw them under the bus. 585 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,399 Speaker 1: It was just I don't want to do so you 586 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: got to make up a disguise, make Larry if you 587 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: go to make Larry dunk donuts. 588 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was anyway, we don't want to throw 589 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: him under the butt on. It was the worst experience. 590 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: The smokes love him, though. Why don't you tell so 591 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: you're dunk and Donuts guy. Why don't you let anybody 592 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: know what your goat to drink is? Though? What's my 593 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: go to? Your go to? 594 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 2: Oh? 595 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: Add dunkin Donut. I didn't enjoy it. 596 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: I didn't enjoy it. 597 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: Sweetweet hazel nut. 598 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 2: Large iced coffee with unsweet hazel nut. Yeah, comond milk. 599 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: It's not an almond milk. He's a purest half and half. 600 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and he wants to cut down the calories, like 601 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: what is what are you doing? 602 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: My problem? That's the only Yeah. And the unsweet hazel 603 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: up like I'm gonna get hazel out. I think it's 604 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: going to be sweet. Yeah, But but there was I 605 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: agree coffee. No, not to some extent, to some extent, 606 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: but it was a little sweet as he liked it. 607 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: There was, But we are in agreement. There is no 608 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: better coffee. 609 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: Was that the little bottle in his pocket that he 610 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 3: that he liked better than. 611 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 2: Wait a second, Yeah, I do you guys have Phil's 612 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: coffee here that I don't know anything? That's the best 613 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: Cold River ever had. Okay, but Duncan I think is 614 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 2: far superior coffee as Starbucks. 615 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: Yes, right, I would agree. Yeah, Starbucks is not a 616 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 1: sponsor ours, right, we would love to have Dunk and 617 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: Daughters sponsored. I mean, I love it. 618 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: It's just that one location and we won't even say 619 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: where it is. 620 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: Don't go to that one even, we won't even go 621 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: to that one forty five minutes. But you mentioned the 622 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: West coast. That's where you're at now. I don'tybody know 623 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: where you're at that beach, Mosa Beach doing calib you 624 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: pulled them back home. 625 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 2: You got a ambly love you guys, Marry I'm too 626 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 2: killed when you guys come out. I loved it when 627 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 2: you guys have come over. 628 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: We had so much fun, so much fun. We stay 629 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: one mile from you when we go out there and great, 630 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: thanks Wait a second, great? Was that is that for real? 631 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: Right down the street? No, we're going this time this time? 632 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: Work up? 633 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know you don't want to intrude sometimes 634 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: I don't want intrude. 635 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I don't answer calls. 636 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, can I tell you the amount of 637 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,479 Speaker 3: times I've talked in Houston. 638 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: We're in Houston at the time, though, that's why defense. Yeah, 639 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: that's so if it would be weird if you were like, hey, 640 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: we're right down. 641 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 3: The street, I'm I'm in Houston. 642 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 2: So I was in Houston, so I got I got 643 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: released my last season, My contract got cut up into 644 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 2: three three years when I was in Miami, and so 645 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: I was thinking about standing a tax free state for 646 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: those three years. And we had already had her place there, uh, 647 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 2: you know, raise our two kids there now We're in 648 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: Hermosa Beach with my beautiful wife and our two kids, 649 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: and and I love it out there. 650 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: Grow Honestly, it's gonna say our boys all growns up, 651 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: grows up in fashion. The wife wants another, wants three kids. Yeah, 652 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: we can talk about that. Yeah, I wait on your 653 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: guy on like live. Should we talk about it? We 654 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: can if you want to. 655 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 3: I mean, it depends on how deep you want to 656 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 3: get into the wheeze on this thing. 657 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, well maybe after because we got to share. 658 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,880 Speaker 1: All right, that's true, that's your more quite all right? 659 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: It is it is. 660 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: I have a boy and a girl. I love him 661 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 2: so much. They're incredible. If I could wait a few 662 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: more years to have another one, I think, without questioning 663 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: one another one. But you know what, it's not up 664 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: to me, is it right? 665 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: It is not up to you. Is anything up to us? 666 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 5: No? 667 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 3: No, none of it is. 668 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: I didn't ask Lanta if I could do this podcast. Yeah, 669 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: I had to ask you. I even we wanted that. 670 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: I had to ask Lanta did he even do this? 671 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: That's how it goes to Ryan today. She said, what 672 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,600 Speaker 1: do you find that you've given up now as a 673 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: dad that you didn't think you would be able to. 674 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: But you now, I was always a huge like life. 675 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: I always knew you with. 676 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 2: Club and you were a fuck just clubbing all the day. 677 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: I would go to a bean like Techno, I'd go abuse, 678 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: fly out to the Beza. Yeah, my wife at home, 679 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 2: I'm going to a Beza again and club from from 680 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 2: midnight to news the next day. 681 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: I can't believe they've done burning Man without you there. No, 682 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. 683 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: I know burning Man, Yeah, Coachella all the hard How 684 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 2: the heart? 685 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 3: How does your How does your current podcast host get 686 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 3: you to stay on any topic? 687 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 4: There is there any way that that occurs. It's during sessions. 688 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 4: Let's just say this session is a much more serious 689 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: word fair. But there's room lends itself so fun. There's 690 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 4: gotta be you guys. 691 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: You lose your Yeah, your personality still has to come out. 692 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 2: The club days are over, Okay, you know they're They've 693 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 2: been over for a long time. I was never a 694 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: huge club guy, but I have had my I did 695 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 2: go to a Pisa boys, did you did you? I 696 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: had a good time too. 697 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: Is that where that tattoo is from? 698 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 3: Is that where the tattoos feel full? 699 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: Back? 700 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 701 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 3: The big eagle on your back. 702 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you remember seeing on Facebook that 703 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: he had his retirement party and h yeah yeah, I 704 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: remember three people in the veil room for this. Yeah, 705 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,040 Speaker 1: I remember that. 706 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't in charge of the invite. I mean it's 707 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 2: a surprise party, guy fair. 708 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 3: Wow, that's true surprise party where I saw a lot 709 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 3: of other Magic Stafford's at the surprize party. 710 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: That's cool. It was really just everybody I cared about, right, 711 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 2: like you guys except for you guys come out. 712 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: In thirtieth birthday, but it was in the mill right 713 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:22,959 Speaker 1: have quite made it? 714 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 2: No? 715 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad. It's so great to see. I could 716 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: literally could do this for another day or two, but 717 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: we've been going to be mindful of your time. 718 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 3: Do you think if Ryan, say, Ryan never left with 719 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 3: the three of us, that would be the show, wouldn't 720 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: it be? Yeah? I was gonna that would be It 721 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 3: would be Ryan's show and then the two of us. 722 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 2: I don't want. I wanted to be the three of 723 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 2: us equal partners and I want We've talked about this, 724 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: do you want to buy it? I would have so 725 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 2: much fun with you guys doing whatever, But I don't 726 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 2: know if if people would want. 727 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: To see it. 728 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 3: But does that matter? 729 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: Who want to see it? What do I care if 730 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: they want to see? 731 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: Right? You guys are still around us for all these years, 732 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 2: and you got how many listeners seventy? 733 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, seventy you're gonna have forty after this. Well you 734 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: were still around by not doing that kind of stuff. 735 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: Oh maybe right, But I'm in I would love to 736 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: at any capacity. Now. Maybe there's still a world where. 737 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: It could happen. I think so I moved to Nashville, 738 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 2: we could be a little closer and maybe creep over to. 739 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 3: He bought a town outside of Nashville. You bought a town, 740 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 3: small town? Really, I'm naming it Anderson. Yeah, could you 741 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 3: dante Ville? 742 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,760 Speaker 1: Doing that? It's only Dante's name. This is so it's better. 743 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, do you want but he asked Galante? Yeah, Galanteville. 744 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 2: I don't want it. 745 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,959 Speaker 3: Maybe I'd like dante Ville better, Dante Town. 746 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: I'll take it. I love that build. 747 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 3: You just to building a building. 748 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll build you like a host office, like a 749 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 2: post It's like a family cemetery. 750 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: Cool. I don't name it all right, thanks fantastic. As 751 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: long as you have a little as long as you 752 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: have a little in law apartment for him. That's all 753 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: he wants. 754 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 3: He wants just put a statue out front of a 755 00:34:58,680 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 3: hand that just goes like this, do. 756 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: You watch NBA? Do your kids know that you played 757 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: in the NBA? Like how that I was going to 758 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: ask that touch with that, like how much of your 759 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: NBA life are you still? 760 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I for probably a good year or two 761 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 2: after I was done playing. It was hard for me 762 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 2: to watch because I, you know, all those guys are 763 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 2: my buddies or uh yeah, it just is so fresh 764 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,359 Speaker 2: in my mind and kind of the way my career 765 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 2: ended was each step of the way, nothing really has 766 00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 2: been that necessarily smooth and just the way you'd anticipate 767 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 2: up your career going. So for me signing in Houston, 768 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: just a lot changed very quickly over there within that regime. 769 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 2: And we could dive into that and a whole other time. 770 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: Another good conversation now that I'm retired to have I 771 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 2: want to have that get a real end of that one. 772 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 1: But because there's a guy that you played with that's 773 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: trying to force his way onto his fifth team here, 774 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: Yeah I love to know, right, Yeah, very good player, 775 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: very good player. But anyway, yeah, I had, but you did, 776 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: You've had different stops along the way. Yeah, yeah, So 777 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: for me, it yeah. 778 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: It was I kind of distanced myself a little bit 779 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 2: away from basketball. But I it's been really fun just 780 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 2: getting over my own things. And I mean, this is 781 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: a part of like with talking about this session podcast, 782 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 2: this is a part of my own journey too. I 783 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 2: want to learn and grow and figure out the best 784 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 2: ways for to live my life. So I'm not doing 785 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 2: this podcast like an expert. The only thing I know 786 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 2: is what I've experienced, and I think I can open 787 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 2: up the platform for other people to talk as well. 788 00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 2: But but yeah, the kids, my son is sort of aware, 789 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 2: like what did daddy do? Oh? He played basketball? I mean, 790 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: but he's not super into basketball right now. He's not 791 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 2: really into sports. They just want to watch Frozen all day. 792 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, Frozen still holds up. I'm glad to hear that. 793 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 2: But it was the first time we watched it the 794 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: other day. This is probably the longest lasting because you know, 795 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: you watch movies with kids and it's like you'll give 796 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 2: it a month watching the same thing. Right we're entering 797 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,920 Speaker 2: into two months. Yeah, with the Frozen silk Okay, the music. 798 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 2: I think it's just the song. 799 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,120 Speaker 1: Well, it could be. There's certain things you got to pull, 800 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: like Teletubby's we had to pull the plug on court. 801 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,680 Speaker 1: There's certain shows you just don't allow in the house. 802 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,080 Speaker 3: Well that was Lanta for Dante though, like she said 803 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 3: to him, like you're a forty seven year old man. 804 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't want you watching enough already, like 805 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,880 Speaker 1: enough of the telest The last thing I'm gonna say, George, 806 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: You've been doing this for forty two years. I've been 807 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: doing it for forty one, right, covering this, cover this 808 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: forty two years? No, forty two, I'm fifty. Would you 809 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 1: say he's I don't know? You give those grays I created? 810 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: It was believable when you said, was I believable? Just 811 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: look at George though, you no what's of Grail's creeping 812 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 2: out there? How long have you guys really been doing this? 813 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 3: This was this will be my twenty ninth year, and 814 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 3: this is twenty sixty six for Doc. 815 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 2: Wait, you know when somebody exaggerates like they really, they 816 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 2: exaggerate way more than right. 817 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 1: That actually it's not that far. Good point. All the 818 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,080 Speaker 1: guys that have come through these doors and we've met 819 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: them all, right, we had them all and this is 820 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: a credit to you, Ryan. This is what we'll end with, 821 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: and it is just that I think this game can 822 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 1: change people. 823 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 2: I'm top twenty five, it can change that. 824 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 1: He is the best defensive player we've had to the 825 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: history of just you. Are we going to Yeah, no 826 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,799 Speaker 1: general top life player anyway, No, no, no, no no. 827 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: But as far as people that have obviously you had 828 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 1: a great career here and and there may not be. 829 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: You've got Dennis Scott, You've got Ryan Anderson, and who 830 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: Rashard Lewis. 831 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 3: Are three point shooters, right, I mean he's right up there. 832 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,040 Speaker 3: Ryan on the floor is obsessed one of the best 833 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 3: offensive rebounders we had. 834 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 2: Right. 835 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: But I'm talking people people that this game has not 836 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: changed you, and everything that you've been through that you've 837 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,920 Speaker 1: overcome is a credit to you. And I know we've 838 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: talked about that, but I write, would you not agree? 839 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,279 Speaker 1: It's very rare that this game, this game, this life 840 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: doesn't change people, and he has. 841 00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 3: A He's definitely definitely one of the ones that as 842 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 3: he is who he is and that's why we love him, right, Yeah, 843 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 3: that's what you guys. 844 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 2: Well, I'd say the same thing about you guys. You 845 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 2: guys are real. I connect and I've connected with so 846 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 2: many especially people within this organization, just even just seeing 847 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 2: so many people I haven't seen in years, but it 848 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 2: feels like I saw I've seen it, you know, been 849 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 2: staying in touch with everybody here right for the most part. 850 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 2: But I just appreciate this organization. I appreciate you guys. 851 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: And it's a fun time. 852 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: We close because it's it was a special time, but 853 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 2: we It's good to be connected with real, genuine people. 854 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 2: And I found that here and I always felt that 855 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 2: home here and I still always do. And I'm and 856 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 2: I'll crash at your guys's house some time. Yeah, they 857 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 2: put me up at the Grand Bohemian, and I know 858 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 2: I was a little offended. I didn't like Dante let 859 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 2: me stay. 860 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 3: Well, I heard, I heard you had a sleep over 861 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 3: it and then want me to call. 862 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: I wasn't invited. 863 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 3: I didn't even know what was happening. 864 00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,919 Speaker 2: But he didn't invite me to his house. 865 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: That's true. That's true. And I wasn't home. Clearly could 866 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 1: have to know last night. 867 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 3: Hey, Lowe, you're right, I could have taught Yeah, you 868 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 3: want to you want to spend the night. 869 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 1: No, it's too and he had he made got he 870 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: got up and made waffles and pancakes this morning. I'm sorry, 871 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: of course he does. Of course he did. It's great 872 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: to see him, and I hope you come back more often. 873 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 2: Right, we're gonna have you in town more often. 874 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: I think this would. 875 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 2: I'd great to have you out any I'll sit down 876 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 2: with you guys forever and talk. I loved you anytime. Anytime. 877 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: Well, best of luck with the podcast. We can't wait 878 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 1: to follow it and we'll see you soon. Welcome, Welcome 879 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: back guys, Ryan Anderson. That'll do it for this edition 880 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: of Magic Pod Squad