1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants hut. 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: Let's go, Let's go Giants. Get the Giants bubbling, give 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 2: me some job. Part of the Giants Podcast Network. Let's role. 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 2: Hi everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Giants 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 2: Little Podcast, brought to you by Citizens, the official bank 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 2: of the New York Football Giants. I am John Schmelk. Hello, 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:19,279 Speaker 2: Voice of the Giants, Bob Pop. 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: How are you, John? I'm doing great. Good to be here. 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be with you. 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: What golf tournament did you join us from last weekend? 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: I was off last weekend because of the Senior PGA Championship. 12 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: We've got the Principal Charity Classic in Des Moines, Iowa 13 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: this week, but I was up for the Giants Foundation 14 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: Golf Outing thirty third edition and OTAs so uh it's 15 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: exciting to watch offense goal against defense. 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: Finally, yes, when make sure you say a load to 17 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: my mice family on Des Moines when you covered the tournament, 18 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 2: all right, you mentioned as Solong, we kind of start 19 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 2: here and then we'll work our way backwards, you know, 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 2: through the off season a little bit. OTA's Day. It 21 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,120 Speaker 2: was fun. It was the second OTA technically, but they 22 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: didn't do anything of yesterday, so it was really the 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,479 Speaker 2: first time he saw offense going against defense. And it's 24 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: just fun seeing the guys out there. So many new 25 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: players on the roster this team this year, Bob, and 26 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 2: a lot of new numbers with the guys that were 27 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: already on the roster too, so you just got to 28 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 2: figure out w everybody kind of fits in a little bit. 29 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean the changing of the number thing. 30 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand h New been changing his number 31 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: because Pinnock War twenty seven. The Slaton one has me 32 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: completely thrown. Yeah, I don't need to see Darius Slayton 33 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: as eighteen. I liked him as eighty six. But yeah, 34 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: you know, getting a chance to watch them kind of 35 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: go through this offense and see some of the new 36 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: pieces on defense. I'm really impressed with the d line 37 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: and just the quality of player that they've added to 38 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: this roster and via free agency and with the draft 39 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: and the size and everything else. I mean, I think 40 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: they put together a very impressive. 41 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: Group, and it's a big group on the defensive line. 42 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw the offensive line into that conversation too, Bob, 43 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: because you have so many guys that have played football 44 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 2: at a you know, pretty high level in both of 45 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 2: those spots. So there's gonna be serious competition not just 46 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 2: for playing time, but for roster spots. When you look 47 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 2: at both of those two groups. By the way, that's 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: what you want at those two spots. That's what the 49 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 2: Eagles have every year. That's what the Cowboys have every year. 50 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: That's what the you know, the Lions have every year. 51 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: That's what you want from those two spots. 52 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, just look at Robertson Harris, like the 53 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: size of that guy, monster, right, and then you know, 54 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: you look at the other additions that they have, and 55 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: then you know, Chapman is a holdover undrafted free agent. 56 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: You know, will there be you know room at the 57 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: end for Nacho at this point in time. I mean, 58 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a legitimate competition. And I thought that 59 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: was one of the things that really hurt them last 60 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: year was they didn't really have that depth on the 61 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 1: d line and they didn't have somebody to pair up 62 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: with Dexter because if you remember the year before, A'shawn 63 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Robinson played really well, and I thought last year they 64 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: were constantly searching and when Dexter needed to blow it. 65 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,239 Speaker 1: Really there was a noticeable drop off. I think they've 66 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: protected themselves against that, and I think that group is 67 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: going to be a force as far as this defense 68 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: is concerned, which helps the edge rushers and everything else. 69 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Ledbetter another veteran. They brought it from Jacksonville. 70 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: He'll fit in there too. You mentioned Darius Alexander, Zo Golston, 71 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: Cholston who can play inside on out, and you have 72 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 2: Jordan Riley two's back in his third year. A lot 73 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: of guys that can go into that mix on the 74 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: defensive front end. 75 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 1: I mean Golston's not Chris Canty, but Chris Canty could 76 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: play inside. Chris Canty in a three to four could 77 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: play that end position. And I think Golston brings a 78 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: lot of versatility for this team. 79 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he does. And you just look at him standing 80 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: with the other edge players, Bob like he's big, Like 81 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: he is a legit. You know, came on. Tippetau and 82 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: Brian Birds are not small guys, but they look smaller 83 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: next to Golston. Just his his arm length, his frame, 84 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 2: and his even his weight to us to an extent, 85 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: just a bigger. 86 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: Dude, bigger guy, uh, long armed I just it looks 87 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: completely different from last year when the Giants, not even 88 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: when the season ended because there's injuries, but just I 89 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: think back to their training camp roster as far as 90 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: what they had up front, and it's noticeably different, which 91 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: is a good thing because now you have Abdul Carter, 92 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: and you have Burns and Thibodeaux, and you have McFadden 93 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: and o'cara kay and I think that front seven becomes 94 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: a super strength. And I liked what I saw out 95 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: of the secondary today too. Deontay Banks had a really 96 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: nice pass breakup pauls in Adibut. Just watching him do 97 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: drills and stuff like that, the fluidity that he has, 98 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: I think this defense really could be good. 99 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, all five of those quote unquote starting defensive backs 100 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 2: were out there together working and it is important, Bob, 101 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: and you could tell this was a focus of the 102 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 2: off season for the Giants. They knew they had young, 103 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 2: talented players in that secondary, but I feel like they 104 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: wanted to add some stability and some veteran presence and 105 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 2: smarts and leadership so you can do everything Shambowen wants 106 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: to do with his disguising coverages, moving guys pre im 107 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 2: post snap, and I think it's hard to do that 108 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 2: with a bunch of younger guys. But you bring in 109 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 2: two smart veterans that have done it in in a 110 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 2: Debo and a Holland, and I think you hope that 111 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: makes the younger guys better and it allows that defense 112 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: to work the way it's designed. 113 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: And then you think of Drew Phillips, who had a 114 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: very nice rookie season. Now it's year two under this head, 115 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: under this defensive coordinator, so it's just it's another year. 116 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: He looked very comfortable out there today and you start 117 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: to see who's gonna lead and who's not. So there 118 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: were a lot of things that I saw today because 119 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: let's face it, the defense had the upper hand over 120 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,679 Speaker 1: the offense in what we were able to see today 121 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: for the most part. But listen, I think there's a lot. 122 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: I think see a lot of encouraging factors. Not the 123 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: flag off. I think we can leave it off. Yeah, 124 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: That's how I'll put on my coffee. 125 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: From right there, there we go. 126 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: Got to give Hacken, Sacmurty and health there plug. 127 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 2: Keep getting better on the Packing Sacroberty Hell podcast studio. 128 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: By the way, keep getting better. Thank you, Bob. And 129 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: Banks had a nice break up early in practice today. 130 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: And look, a big part of this team's success this 131 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: year is whether or not Deandi Banks can figure it out. 132 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 2: And the thing about Banks, and we've talked about this, 133 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: but he doesn't really get run passed right Like he's 134 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: like guys that are going against him don't get two 135 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: yards of separation or wide open deep. He just has 136 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: to figure out how to get his head around and 137 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 2: finish some of these plays where he's in good position. 138 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what they're doing right now. They're working 139 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: on things they're put there. You know, a lot of 140 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: the drills that they were working on. You know, the 141 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: coaches are just challenging them. And you know, nothing's going 142 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: to be perfect. You know, we're at the end of 143 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: May right now. But I think if this team can 144 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: stay relatively healthy defensively, all these pieces could come into 145 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: play because you you know, even like a guy like 146 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Cordell Flott, who I've always been I've always liked Cordel Flott. 147 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: The problem with Flatt is if he stacks a good 148 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: game and stacks another good game and stacks another good game. Unfortunately, 149 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: his career arc has been when it's time to stack 150 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: that fourth game he gets hurt, yep, you know, and 151 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: his availability is going to be something that's important for 152 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: this team as well. 153 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 2: How to get in here? If you're lined up here, 154 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: you gotta go over the middle with at the score great. 155 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: How do we make that happen? 156 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: I don't know, but Citizen does. 157 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: It makes sense of your money with Citizens official Bank 158 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: of Eli Manning. Hey. 159 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 2: Last thing on the defense, I think the other thing 160 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: that's important here Bob is we need to see the 161 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 2: Bobby Ocake from two years ago. And he talked about 162 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 2: that today when he spoke to the media after practice. 163 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 2: Where last year did not meet his expectations. He expects, 164 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 2: you know, to fill up the box score like he 165 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: did in his rookie year here in his first year 166 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 2: here not rookie, compared to what he did last year 167 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: when he was kind of in Bowen's system for the 168 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 2: first time. And he does think being in that system 169 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 2: for a second year should help him and make Fadden. 170 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: You know, let's be honest, being better against the run, 171 00:07:57,040 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 2: which has been the big problem. 172 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Bobby Okake is one of those guys 173 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: where I would just defer to the back of his 174 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: bubblegum card. It's a thing that as kids we used 175 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: to talk about as far as our baseball cards were concerned. 176 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: You know, you build up a long enough resume. I 177 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: believe in Bobby Okarake and what he's done over the 178 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: course of his career. Now I will say this too, John, 179 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: last year was an adjustment period, right with a with 180 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: a new new coach, a new scheme, and an inferior roster, 181 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: and you know, an inferior roster defensively than what they 182 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: had the year before, and it kind of all works together. 183 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: And I think as this roster's strengthened, I think you'll 184 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: see the best out of Bobbyokaake. 185 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: All right, haven't you mentioned them in passing the pass 186 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 2: rusher group. When you kind of think about how they 187 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: might use all these guys and hand them together, how 188 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 2: do you see that working out? And he saw some 189 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: of the stuff Toda. Even when they know Kake on 190 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 2: the edge on a couple of plays, it burns off ball. 191 00:08:58,360 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: Feels like Bone's going to really try to move these 192 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: around a little bit. 193 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a lot of it will be dictated 194 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: by situation. It'll be down in distance and game situation 195 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 1: and everything else, But I think that Shane Bowen is 196 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot more versatility, you know, with the 197 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: with the talent that's been collected here. 198 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you all right, offensively, I mentioned 199 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: the offensive line first and foremost. Obviously, in otias are 200 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,839 Speaker 2: not supposed to report exactly where guys are lined up, 201 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: but I think we can say this. They're moving some 202 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 2: of the guys around the line, especially some of the 203 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: younger guys, whether it's rookies like a Marcus bo, young 204 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: veterans at josh A Zudu, Evan Niels at guard. Brian 205 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 2: Dable talked about that as well. So it'll be curious 206 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: to see, if you know, if some of these young 207 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: guys can push some of the veterans in front of 208 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 2: them for playing time as the spring and then, of 209 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 2: course you're not gonna know anything with the lines until 210 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 2: the summer and the pads go on. This is just 211 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 2: kind of getting them into the mix a little bit. 212 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: But I think it's exciting to see some of these 213 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 2: guys try to fit in in spots that maybe fit 214 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 2: their skill sets. Yeah. 215 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you and I were watching practice 216 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: or watching the workout today and I was obsessed with 217 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: josh A z Do. And before you shame me fans 218 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: out there, I mean the reason why I was because 219 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: this guy has played tackle in the NFL and not 220 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: very well, and it's not his natural position. His position 221 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: was guard. When he was drafted, it was to play guard, 222 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: and because of the circumstances, you know, they tried to 223 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: cross training him and stuff. But I kind of zeroed 224 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: in on him today and I was laughing because you 225 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: were laughing, I said, John pack Herwin wrote this book called, uh, 226 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: you know, don't don't watch the ball, and I'm like, 227 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: on these reps, let's not watch the ball, Let's just 228 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: watch is z you do? And I really liked what 229 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,959 Speaker 1: I saw of josh as you do today. It was aggressive, 230 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: did not give up a lot of ground, finished some 231 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: things off. So so we can't exactly say where he 232 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: was playing. 233 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: We could say he was playing inside and outside. How 234 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:05,440 Speaker 2: about that. 235 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, well he did play some inside and outside. But 236 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: watching him, especially in certain spots, I like what I saw. 237 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 1: I mean again, there's no pads. I mean, this is 238 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: this is ota, this is phase three whatever they call it, 239 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: Fase three, that's correct. But I was I zeroed in 240 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: on josh A Zudo and I was pleasantly surprised. 241 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he did a nice job. I agree 242 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,839 Speaker 2: with you. Marcus bow was in multiple spots too. 243 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: Correct. 244 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 2: They said this offseason they'd be trained to tackle, so 245 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 2: you could figure that out. But just moves well. And 246 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: you know, Jay Cubas got an opportunity too because John 247 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 2: Runyon Junior coming off that shoulder right shoulder, should shoulder injury. Yeah, 248 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 2: I think was shoulder. Whatever it was, he wasn't you know, 249 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: he's He's one of the group of the guys with 250 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: Andrew Thomas and Malik Nahbors. Is another one that Brian 251 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: Dable talked about before practice that are not doing everything yet. 252 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 2: They're gonna be patient and careful with those guys. So 253 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: guy like Cubas. So you know, you go back to 254 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 2: the production meetings for the preseason games that we have 255 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,920 Speaker 2: last year, which you know, Brian Daeboldouse opened the curtel 256 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: a little bit on those compared to what you get 257 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 2: at the press conferences a little bit in the interviews. 258 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: They like Jakubas and I think he's gonna get every 259 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 2: opportunity here to earn a prominent role on. 260 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: This team exactly. Because he comes at a good price, right, 261 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: which is inexpensive, and he's a guy that you could develop. 262 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: And yeah, they were moving guys around, and I thought 263 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: for the most part, guys did a pretty good job. 264 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you take a look at you know, 265 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: Stinny got chances in there, and they were working people around, 266 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: and again that's what this time of year is for. 267 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: But he loved Kubas last year, just like he liked 268 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: Chapman last year and had that work out for chap. 269 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely Giants to the podcast brought to you by Citizens 270 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: Official Bank of the Giants and game these celebrations to 271 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 2: your everyday financial needs. Big new fans and get the 272 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 2: most out of every moment with Citizens. Learn more at 273 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: Citizens bank dot com slash Giants. We got out of 274 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: Jalen Hyatt Today, Bob caught a couple of touchdowns, a 275 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: couple plays in the back of the end zone. It 276 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 2: was only red zone today. Much like at the start 277 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 2: at Camp Folks, they try not to have these guys 278 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: do full field routes and stuff early in the OTAs 279 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: to try to avoid hamstrings, calfs, squads and all that 280 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 2: sort of stuff. But Hyatt caught a couple passes. Bob, 281 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 2: it looks like he has gotten a little bit thicker 282 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: with his offseason training. 283 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, at least, you know from OTAs, he 284 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: looks a little bit stronger. I thought there was I 285 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: can't remember if it was. I think it was Russell 286 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: Wilson that threw a great kind of anticipation fade to 287 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: Darius Slayton, who did a great job getting his feet 288 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: in bounds. 289 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: That was Russell Wilson. Yep. 290 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, look, it started off a little 291 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: bit sluggish, but again, these are OTAs from an offensive standpoint, 292 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: and the reps are very limited. You know, Russell Wilson's 293 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 1: getting his reps. Jameis Winston got his reps. I'm sure 294 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: people will write about the pick six that Jameis Winston 295 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: threw to Dan Belton. 296 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 2: Who, by the way he hit the receiver like writ 297 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: in the chest on the plot should have been caught. 298 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: The ball should have been caught turned into a pick six. So, uh, 299 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: in case you read some misinformation, that's exactly what happened. 300 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 2: And those a Mike McFadden pick that could have went 301 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 2: for a touchdown. Lating practices. 302 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, I mean yeah, and then you know, Jackson 303 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: Dark got some of his reps, and you know, he 304 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: looked like a rookie quarterback learning an offense. Right. He 305 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: did some nice things, and then sometimes it looked like 306 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: all hell was breaking loose. We were laughing because with 307 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: four quarterbacks, there's only x amount of reps. So Tommy 308 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: DeVito gets one snap, yeah, pretty much, throws a touchdown pass. 309 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: Next period comes around, Tommy Devido gets one snap, throws 310 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: a touchdown pass. Next set of reps comes around. Tom 311 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: Ravida gets one snap, touchdown pass. 312 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,920 Speaker 2: All the bly the undrafted freegent wide receiver. 313 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: And then his fourth rep. Again he's only getting one rep. 314 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: He throws what should have been a touchdown pass it 315 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: and they hit the guy right in the chest, Baker, 316 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: and he drops it. And then Tommy came over and 317 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: like patted him up and pumped him up a little 318 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: bit and like, hey, don't worry about it. Whatever. 319 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: It's funny. Bobby was talking after the game, Okaya k 320 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: after the game, after the practice, and he was kind 321 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: of asked about the quarterbacks and he goes, there's a 322 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: lot of strong personalities in that quarterback room, but a 323 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: lot of different personalities, and all three guys that talked 324 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 2: after practice. It was Holland Van Roten and o'kaara ke. 325 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: They all spoke to the veteran presence of Russell Wilson, 326 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: Bob and how he's interacting with everybody in the locker room. 327 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 2: There's leadership there, there's a comfort level, there's experience, and 328 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 2: I think they all seem to be pretty impressed just 329 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: by the vibe that Russell Wilson does bringing to the 330 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 2: team in the locker room as a leader. Yeah. 331 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not a fabrication. The guy's a ten 332 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: time pro bowler, like a SUPERLD champion and a Super 333 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: Bowl champion, and did go to back to back Super Bowls. 334 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: I know it was a long time ago, and I 335 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: know it was you know, eleven twelve years ago, but 336 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: you know, he's been a really good player who's won 337 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 1: a lot of games. Just take a look at his 338 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: win loss record, and it's a little bit different because 339 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, in previous years, you know, Daniel Jones, even 340 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: after the twenty two season, you know, there was still 341 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 1: this sort of like, Okay, let's see you validate it. 342 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: Let's see you validated. Russell Wilson doesn't have anything to 343 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: validate as far as far as his career resume is concerned, 344 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: his resume is what it is. He's going to go 345 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: with the Hall of Fame someday, So he carries himself 346 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: very differently, and I think that was very much needed 347 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: as far as this team was concerned. 348 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: If you want to know how to manage two minutes 349 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: of crunch time football, I'm your man. 350 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: But if you're wondering about a long term financial plan, 351 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: you should talk to citizens. 352 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 2: Hey, I can also talk long care I'd like to 353 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: learn about amuli routine. Yes, I knew it could help 354 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: make sense of your money with citizens. And it's funny. 355 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 2: A lot of the practice stuff is the eye test, right, 356 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 2: and just seeing Jameis Winston's stature, you could see why 357 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: he was picked with the first overall pick. Right, He's 358 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: just so big and tall, Like he stands in that 359 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: back group, he literally stands out. He's got three or 360 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 2: four inches that feel like on everyone else in that group. 361 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, which is why you know he 362 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 1: could see over everybody a lot better. And listen, the 363 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: guy threw for over what five thousand yards and had 364 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: thirty eight touchdown passes. You know, his last year in 365 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,719 Speaker 1: Tampa that we all know what the other number was. 366 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: Ignore the other column. 367 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: It's okay, Well, Bruce arians didn't ignore it. But that's 368 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: why he's at this point in his career. That's why 369 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 1: he signed to be a backup with the New York Giants. 370 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: But you know, his his physical gifts are off the charts, 371 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: and again it's a it's a quality person to have 372 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: as far as your room is concerned. 373 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 2: It's an interesting tight end group, Bob. I'm not gonna 374 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 2: say it's a great tight end group. He is. These 375 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 2: guys haven't proven it yet, right, but it's an interesting 376 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: tight end group. You got Theo Johnson in the second 377 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 2: year man hurts his back as the blocker Bellingers heading 378 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 2: towards the end of his three contract. You know, Dulsich 379 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: with the flowing walks coming in is the receiving tight end. 380 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 2: Then you draft. It's just kind of like a fun 381 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 2: group with a bunch of guys that can all have 382 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 2: a little bit of a different skill set. 383 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think it's gonna be interesting because they're 384 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to make some decisions. So what you know, 385 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: does Fidoni developed to the point where then somebody else 386 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: becomes expendable because you're not talking about big money tied 387 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: into anybody here, right. THEO Johnson gave you a lot 388 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: of spark last year, a lot of things that you 389 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: could be excited about as far as his development would 390 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: be concerned. But like, I think this is a big 391 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: year for THEO Johnson to take that next step where 392 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: the production starts to match the potential and upside you 393 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: see as in the player right, which is why he 394 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: was drafted where he was drafted. And then you know 395 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: the role that Bellinger has again, not a ton of 396 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: money tied up into that group, and I think you 397 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: know which guys also are going to contribute on special 398 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: teams on the back end of that group will go 399 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: a long way and determine who makes the fifty three. 400 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I think it'll be fun to see overall 401 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: about this offseason. What do you think of just the 402 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 2: Giants overall strategy? How would you characterize how Joe Shane 403 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 2: has gone about his business trying to build this roster up? 404 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: Well, I mean listen, after the draft, free agency, you 405 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: know we've seen all the grades, the people that put 406 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: grades out for all this stuff, and we won't find 407 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: out until they play games for real. What kind of 408 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: players that they have. But I think the sense I 409 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: get from a lot of giant fans and even the 410 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,239 Speaker 1: sense you get when you're in the building here is 411 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: this draft created and some of the free agent moves 412 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: they've made this year have created a jolt, a boost. 413 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: There's an excitement level. It feels different this offseason than 414 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: it felt last year. And I can't really put anything 415 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: tangible on it. 416 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 2: That's why it's a feeling. 417 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: That's it. I look at you, by the way, we 418 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 1: got to change this schedule. 419 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 2: I gotta get that. I had to do it over there. 420 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 1: I gotta put it down because I you're looking at 421 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:05,600 Speaker 1: it and it's like it's twenty three. So yeah, it's 422 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: one of those situations where there's a lot of optimists. 423 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: Can you just get up in the middle of the 424 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: show and go get a new schedule? 425 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: I just did. 426 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: But you know, all signs are pointed to Washington, right 427 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: and September seventh, that's where the focus begins and the 428 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: work that goes into all this. But before you know what, 429 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: that Bill's preseason game will be here and we'll be 430 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: on our way down this road. 431 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that you know, you could actually joint practices 432 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 2: with the Bills too. I'd be surprised. You know, usually 433 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: they just do the one joint practice with the Jets. 434 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 2: Obviously there's not enough room space between the Jets and 435 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 2: Patriots game. It's just four days in between, so you're 436 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 2: not gonna have any joint practices probably during that week. 437 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: So I think if you're gonna, if you're gonna do 438 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: joint practices, and Brian Dabele said they're working on it, 439 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 2: I got to imagine it would be leading into that 440 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: Buffalo game. 441 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because there's no connection between the GM coach 442 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:57,919 Speaker 1: and their first preseason opponent. 443 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 2: And more importantly, they also do not play this year 444 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: in the regular season, which is something they always try 445 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 2: to help. But Patriots, the Giants also put the Patriots. 446 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not it's not feasible because that's a 447 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: short week. So yeah, I mean, we'll see. I think 448 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: the joint practices are very important because I think what 449 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: the NFL preseason has become, are you are you getting 450 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: your guys your main players? Are you getting them sharp 451 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: enough to get ready for Week one? I think joint 452 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: practices go a long way in that. 453 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. Aaron Glenn I'm trying to think he 454 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 2: passed some He's got to have a connection to Dable, right, 455 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 2: going back to the Patriots at some point, maybe at 456 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 2: some point Aaron Glenn and Dable. 457 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: Maybe No, I won't. I don't think so. 458 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 2: No, Okay, I was I was trying to think of it. 459 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: There was a connection with Dable and the current Jets 460 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 2: staff to work out, well they can get the one 461 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 2: joint practice in that week like they have the last 462 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: couple of weeks. 463 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, listen, they've obviously know each other. Everybody 464 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: knows each other. But the Giant a practice against the 465 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: Lions a couple of times, Aaron Glemm's the defensive coordinator. 466 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 2: Duh, there we go. Great points. 467 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: So they've all, you know, the coordinators, head coaches, they're 468 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: all in communication as far as hows this thing is 469 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: gonna go. And by all accounts, the Giants and Lions 470 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: preseason practices of joint practices have gone pretty well. 471 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 2: All right, this is marking me the last time you're 472 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: gonna be with U until we get the training camp. 473 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 2: What in your opinion, I'm gonna be back in a 474 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: few weeks. Well, I'm gonna see it. But I don't 475 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 2: know if we're gonna do a show. Maybe we will, 476 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: who knows, But what do you think for the next 477 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: couple weeks until I see you next? The Giants should 478 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: be Giant fans should be thinking about as they check 479 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 2: out all of our great coverage of the OTAs and 480 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp on giants dot com and all that stuff. 481 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 2: What should Giant fans to keep the right perspective and 482 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: not get too overboard on things. What should they be 483 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 2: worried about and thinking about in terms of what's going 484 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 2: on over the next few weeks. 485 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 1: Nobody gets hurt. No, all, oh, you're right right, I'm 486 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: not being a wise ass, But like, nobody gets hurt, 487 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: because what should they be thinking about? This is just 488 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: a small piece of a bigger puzzle that will start 489 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: to be assembled when training camp starts. Because there's guys 490 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: out here practicing right now. They're gonna get released before 491 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: we even get to training camp. It's just kind of 492 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: keep the thing moving in the right direction the guys 493 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: that are coming off injury, make sure there's no setbacks, 494 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: make sure nobody gets hurt doing any of this stuff, 495 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: and get ready for training camp. I mean, I don't 496 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: want to overthink this. But like I think Giant fans 497 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: should just be excited. You shouldn't be looking for anything 498 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: specific because again it's Phase three, it's OTA's and then 499 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: the veteran mini camp. Again, you're just going against yourself. 500 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: I think the pieces are in place for this team 501 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: to be much more competitive and to be a good 502 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: football team that will make the fans proud. But I wouldn't. 503 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: I wouldn't if I'm a fan, I wouldn't overthink this. 504 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: If you're a Yankee fan, like, root like crazy for 505 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: the Yankees. If you're a Mets fan, root like crazy 506 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 1: for the men. Dive into that and just be happy 507 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 1: that it looks like your team is football team is 508 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: heading in the right direction, and nobody gets hurt. 509 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 2: Bob enjoyed the next couple weeks. 510 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 1: We'll see you back here, all right, John. 511 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 2: That's Bob Papa on the Johns Little Podcast, brought to 512 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 2: you by Citizens, the official bank of the Giants from 513 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 2: the Hackensack Marine. Hell the podcast studio keep getting better. 514 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: For Bob Papa, I'm John Schmulck. Thanks for joining us 515 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:20,919 Speaker 2: on the Johns Little Podcast.