WEBVTT - Ep 69: Sharon Van Etten 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:22.200 Loud and Quiet presents Midnight Chats. Hey, what's up everyone. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.360 Thank you for downloading this episode of the podcast. This 0:00:25.480 --> 0:00:28.360 is Midnight Chats from Loud and Quiet Magazine. My name 0:00:28.440 --> 0:00:33.040 is Stuart and my guest tonight is the incredible Sharon 0:00:33.120 --> 0:00:36.400 van Etten, who I hadn't met until now. A friend 0:00:36.440 --> 0:00:38.960 of mine actually asked me if we know all the 0:00:39.080 --> 0:00:42.479 people before they come on, which I took as a 0:00:42.680 --> 0:00:45.760 very big compliment. Sometimes we have met some of these 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:49.879 artists before through doing the magazine and other things, but 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.960 a lot of the time we really haven't, and they're 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:56.560 always very nice. You know, there's a couple. There's a 0:00:56.600 --> 0:00:59.760 couple who are not very nice. I won't name them. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.959 But Sharon Vanetten I hadn't met, and I watched some 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.720 videos of her online just to try and get an 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.959 idea of like the kind of person she's going to be. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:13.280 And I thought, that's someone who I think is going 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:17.120 to be extremely lovely and very easy to talk to, 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:21.679 very quickly from the off, and that couldn't have been 0:01:21.840 --> 0:01:26.880 more correct. I did a pause then for dramatic effect, 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.160 but it could have been more correct. Sharon was lovely 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:33.360 and we spoke for an hour, and I mean it 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:36.680 could have gone on. I'm not sure if she maybe 0:01:36.720 --> 0:01:39.280 felt that, but I could have spoken to her for ages. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:43.960 She's done a lot this year. She's released her fifth album, 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:47.440 which is called Remind Me Tomorrow, and there's been five 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:50.160 years between that and her previous album, which is called 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.600 Are We There, And in that time her plan was 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:57.760 to kind of just calm down, not do so much, 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.360 get off the road, and just live life a little bit. 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.960 But she's filled that five years with having a baby 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:10.200 and falling in love and becoming an actor as well. 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:13.440 So a lot of this episode of the podcast is 0:02:14.000 --> 0:02:17.280 not really music based. We get to the music about 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:22.040 halfway through, but the first half is me talking to 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:25.560 Sharon about her love for comedy. She loves comedy and 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.400 wanted to be a stand up. She's even tried stand up. 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.200 She talks about that. She talks a bit about becoming 0:02:31.200 --> 0:02:35.400 a mother, her son is currently two years old, and 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:39.960 what else comedy, writing films, meeting David Lynch says a 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:43.160 lot in this one. It's also the podcast out of 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:47.000 all of the ones that I've recorded, that has the 0:02:47.040 --> 0:02:50.320 most midnight feel to it. On What I mean by 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:55.520 that is it's very kind of loose. Sharon's from New Jersey, 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.600 but she lived in Tennessee for a while and it's 0:02:57.639 --> 0:03:02.359 got that kind of oven. Just calm to it, I think, 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.959 or she does at least, and then you know, every 0:03:05.000 --> 0:03:10.240 now and then I start honking, laughing and ruining the mood. 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:14.760 But it's very mellow this listen, so I hope you 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:17.560 enjoy it. If you do, please do subscribe. Listen back 0:03:17.560 --> 0:03:20.919 to our previous episodes, and yeah, I'm going to just 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:25.040 leave it there, so please enjoy this episode of Midnight 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:27.720 Chats with Sharon Vannatt. And thanks very much for Sharon 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:31.200 for coming on. And we didn't speak that much about 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:33.320 the new album, but you should go and check it out. 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:36.080 It's called Remind Me Tomorrow. It came out earlier this 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:39.720 year and it really is a great record. So thanks 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.760 to Sharon for coming on. And I should just say 0:03:41.840 --> 0:03:45.840 that we start the conversation halfway through Sharon and I 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.560 talking about different places we've djayed, and me talking about 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:53.320 djaying our wedding of a friend of mine. So with 0:03:53.440 --> 0:04:10.320 that in mind, here we go. Doing a wedding was 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.560 just hard. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:14.960 Because people have so many requests on top of and 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.400 they get so angry and you are because they get 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.799 drunk throughout the night and then they want to dance. Yeah, 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:24.479 there's too many slow jams. The crowd gets anxious. 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:28.760 Yeah exactly, and the crowd is to split because there 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.080 were some old there were some young people, and they 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.359 just kept asking for drum and bass. But we were 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.760 at a wedding and that probably wasn't very appropriate for 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:37.280 the older. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.960 People who want to get out there too, yeah exactly. 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.240 And then those people were quite angry when we play 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:44.120 younger stuff and the young people were angry and we 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:47.080 played like classic stuff and I was driving, so I 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:48.880 had to be sober the whole time. 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:50.599 Yeah, a wedding sober. 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:53.360 Yeah, it was long, it was like and when we finished, 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:56.520 they all kind of started booing us that we'd finished, 0:04:56.520 --> 0:04:58.240 and they wanted us to play more, and people were 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.880 really drunk by them. So just don't do it, that's mine. 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:05.640 Just just just don't do it. Just wedding ever, never, just 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.440 stick to the tour of us. 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.520 Well, actually, there's a funny song. A friend of mine 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.359 got married and a song came on but I I 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:16.279 never really connected with before, but in the context of 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.640 this day, I just heard it in a different way, 0:05:19.680 --> 0:05:22.880 and that that song by a Hot Chocolate. 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:24.840 Oh yeah, which one like you sexy thing? 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:28.239 Yeah, but like when he says the way he says 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.920 miracles makes me laugh so hard because like I believe 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:36.039 in move like the way he I just started cracking 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.440 up and like now it's one of my favorite songs 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.640 and my my partner and he actually just proposed to 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.120 be so we're starting. 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:45.440 To congratulations that's. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:47.520 Your first Yeah, exactly that that. You know, some people 0:05:47.640 --> 0:05:49.640 like you want to be something romantic like no, we 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.720 want to like go out with a bang, like we 0:05:51.760 --> 0:05:54.360 want to we want to like mess mess it up. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.240 Yeah, have you set a rough date? Do you know what? 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:00.719 Just in terms of year you get. 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.600 Okay, so maybe we don't have time. It's going to 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:07.320 be this insanity. I mean we're on top of me 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:12.240 touring all summer and relocating from New York to North 0:06:12.240 --> 0:06:16.400 Carolina to Los Angeles. I mean it's going to be it's. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:18.599 Too much, too much. At the moment, you're still in 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:19.440 New York, right. 0:06:19.440 --> 0:06:21.440 Yes, we're in New York until June and. 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.840 Then you're the plan is to go all the way 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:27.279 west to La Yes, but you're going to North Carolina. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.919 First, Yeah, because I'm touring all summer, like two weeks on, 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.400 two weeks off, and we have family down there, so 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.200 we figure let's see as much family as we can 0:06:36.320 --> 0:06:39.920 before we go on the opposite coast of where everybody lives. 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.080 And then and then we'll take a breather and try 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:45.039 to settle down for a minute. But it's you know, 0:06:45.040 --> 0:06:47.200 and with a little one, we want to make sure 0:06:47.240 --> 0:06:49.799 he sees his grandparents, yeah, uncles. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:54.200 And how did the proposal go? Were you? Were you 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:54.960 expecting it? 0:06:55.400 --> 0:06:58.279 I didn't. I did not suspect it. I mean I 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.479 knew that he was going to ask me one day. Yeah, 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:03.760 he used to be married, so like that, we had 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:05.680 the joke where I'm like, why don't you just be 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:11.160 single for a while and enjoy that? And so I 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:12.520 knew that he was gonna ask me. And we have 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.600 a kid, so you know, I was like, that was 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:19.000 the ring, you know, But I knew when he did it. 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:20.840 He's a romantic like me, so I knew it was 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:24.200 gonna be really special. And I come back from my 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:29.080 US tour that lasted like three weeks, and we got 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.200 a babysitter just to go on a date. So that 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.840 alone I was so excited, We're going on a date 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.920 like we you know, as new parents, Like I think 0:07:36.960 --> 0:07:39.200 most people know that it's just really hard to get 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:45.160 a moment. And so he surprised me with tickets to UCB, 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:48.200 which is like improv comedy in New York, which I'm 0:07:48.240 --> 0:07:51.320 a huge fan of comedy. So we went there, and 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:54.240 then we went to dinner at a place that's kind 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.520 of on our bucket list of places. It's called Minetta 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:01.120 Tavern and it's in the village and it's just one 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.720 of the oldest restaurants in the neighborhood and just very 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:08.120 classic New York kind of cocktail, steak potatoes, like burg 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:12.040 They're known for their burger and their cocktails. And we 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.800 had a great dinner and he asked if I wanted dessert. 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.600 I said, actually, let's go to my old hood and 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:22.200 grab a cocktail. And this old bar that we used 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:24.160 to go hang out at and listen to jazz. It's 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.720 like a speakeasy. You know, there's no sign, there's just 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:28.800 a guy standing at the door that doesn't want you 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:31.840 to come in. So he's like, oh, that's perfect because 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:34.120 I wanted to stop by this place and it's on 0:08:34.160 --> 0:08:38.440 the way, so we got a cab and he pulled. 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:41.560 He told the cab driver to pull over, and it 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.080 was in front of my old apartment on West fourth Street, 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.400 which is a sandwich between a sex shop and a 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:49.960 bar and right next to the music ind kind of 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:53.920 and you know Dylan the Street. He's like, I wanted 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:55.560 to get a photograph of you in front of your 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:59.360 old apartment because this is, you know, represents our relationship 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:05.240 and where we start dating. And then he took a 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:10.320 picture and showed it to me, said some nice things, 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:12.680 and then he pulled out a couple photographs from his 0:09:12.800 --> 0:09:16.720 pocket and it was him and my son picking out 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:19.080 the wedding ring in North Carolina when we were there 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:22.160 in December for Christmas. And he's held onto this ring 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:25.000 since then, and so my son helped him pick out 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:28.120 the ring. He even had it on his finger. So 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:33.320 I started crying, and he said some more nice things. 0:09:34.440 --> 0:09:38.360 Then he asked, if you know I wanted him to 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.000 get down on his knee. I said, yes, I want 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:42.680 you to get down on your knee. 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.080 I think he was thinking at this point, this is 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.320 surely enough for me to not have to get down 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:47.679 the name. 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.880 I was like, oh, no, get down on your knee, 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.160 and so like we had a good laugh, and like 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.640 I was kind of floored. And you know, West Fourth 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:58.960 is very busy. It's like a major train station area, 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:03.559 and so there were passerbys that caught it, and so 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.839 like they like said, you know, they take some photos 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:07.880 like well he was on his knee, and they're like 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:11.600 say yes, and so it was really sweet and nice. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.280 You know. I just I said yes, and then I 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:23.760 think I said thank you. I appreciate it. So yeah, 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.960 so now we're you know, we went and got a 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.959 cocktail and there's a great jazz band playing and we 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:29.400 we just. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:35.720 That's brave of him to to hold onto it for 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.640 so long for a few months. The ring, because when 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:40.800 I proposed to my wife, I went and got the 0:10:40.880 --> 0:10:43.760 ring and I was so panicked to be in possession 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.560 of this really expensive thing that I almost just threw 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.560 it at her when she walked in. And it wasn't 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:52.320 it wasn't very romantic at all. It wasn't I don't 0:10:52.320 --> 0:10:54.800 think it was what did you do? It wasn't that. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.000 It wasn't what you just described put me to shame. 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:01.760 But I wanted you mentioned about about being a fan 0:11:01.800 --> 0:11:04.280 of stand up comedy. Is it true that you wanted 0:11:04.360 --> 0:11:06.400 to be a stand up or if you tried stand 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:07.080 up recently? 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.599 I tried to stand up once in LA because my 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.360 babysitter convinced me and she was putting together a variety 0:11:14.400 --> 0:11:17.000 show and she's a comic and improv and writer. 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:19.720 And how long ago was it? So this is only 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:20.640 like what year ago? 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.280 Yeah? This is last year when I was making the record. 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.600 Okay, and you'd never done stand up before? 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.880 No, no, no, no no no. I mean I'm a 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:30.760 silly person. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:32.000 How did it go? 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:35.320 Let's just say I printed out like a five page 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:40.000 thing that I referred to when I got nerded, I 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:41.960 had a glass of wine in one hand, and I 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:47.880 apologized like every other joke. It was fun and it 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.240 was like a warm crowd. It was like our friends, 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:50.960 did it go? 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:51.800 Did it go well? 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:55.360 I wasn't booed, you know, And it was like a 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:58.600 mix of like since it was a variety show, like 0:11:59.400 --> 0:12:01.800 there were people people, you know, there were stand up, 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:05.200 there was a comedy troupe and you know there's a 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:09.640 reading and from a book and it was a good. Yeah, 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.000 it was like a very welcoming crowd. 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:14.520 How long was your bit, It's. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:15.800 Like fifteen minutes. 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:19.560 That's long. Long, that's long for someone starting out. I thought, 0:12:19.559 --> 0:12:22.800 when you start out, you do like five. 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.320 That's probably what I should have done. It's probably what 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:26.000 I should have done. 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:27.800 What was what was your material? 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:28.000 Then? 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.400 What were your what were the things you were talking about? 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:37.479 Hi? My name is Sharon Bennett and I'm a songwriter. 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:43.360 I have a band, and I fell in love with 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:49.800 my drummer who was married because I am an adult 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:55.719 and I can make my own fucking decisions and now 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.000 he's my manager and he can make my decisions before me. 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:04.000 And that was is this your delivery as well? I 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:06.200 like the delivery is amazing, but it was a. 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:11.800 Pretty dead pit was like, and uh, it was kind 0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:15.560 of awkward, you know, and it's like, you know, it's like, 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:18.360 you know, I like the awkward laughter in the audience, 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.520 and then like I went, I'm just kind of telling 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:24.680 our story and the awkwardness of you know, being in 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:28.240 a bend and having feelings and you know, it's a 0:13:28.320 --> 0:13:30.720 lot more complicated than that, but you know, you have 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.280 to make light of the seriousness. 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:34.640 That's a brave thing to do. 0:13:34.800 --> 0:13:35.040 Though. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.160 I go to see stand ups sometimes but I generally 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:41.480 am instantly embarrassed for them, even even as soon as 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:43.959 they come on. I'm so I'm too scared that they're 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.360 going to be terrible. We had to stand up where 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:49.600 I used to DJ in my bad student union. On 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.320 a Saturday night before the DJing happened, they had a 0:13:52.320 --> 0:13:56.000 comedy night and I saw a guy there totally totally 0:13:56.080 --> 0:13:58.960 die in front of it. Was it was. It was 0:13:59.040 --> 0:13:59.959 terrible to watch. 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:04.120 It's got to be the hardest job in show business. 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:08.080 I just it's so specific, you know. At least with music, 0:14:08.160 --> 0:14:10.880 I feel like people can connect with it on their own, 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:14.280 in their own way, whereas with comedy, it's like you 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.560 have to be on, you have to be funny. It's 0:14:16.559 --> 0:14:17.240 funny or not. 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:19.760 Would you do it again? Would you? 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.600 I don't know. I feel like delivery isn't my strong 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:32.760 I'm interested in the writing process though, and my babysitter 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:35.320 and I are actually toying around with the idea of 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.880 working on a show together. I had this idea of 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:44.480 kind of like a not quite a sitcom but high 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:49.320 maintenance style, but it's more babysitters, So it's like a 0:14:49.360 --> 0:14:53.680 mother and her relationship with her babysitters because it's such 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:57.280 an intense relationship, but you get put in the most 0:14:57.360 --> 0:15:03.320 awkward circumstances where there's a hierarchy. Have babysitters and they 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:06.320 become a part of your family. And as a mother, 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.880 it's so liberating to trust someone enough to leave them 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.000 alone with your child so you can go about your 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:14.040 life and like figure out how to work again. But 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:16.680 you get put in these like weird situations where you're 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:18.720 like every now and then, it's like I don't know 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.600 this person, but I'm just gonna have to trust that 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.960 they're a good person and like whatever. And there's one 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:27.800 time I came home and the babysitter left, didn't say anything, 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:31.000 she was totally fine, and like the apartment smells like shit, 0:15:31.800 --> 0:15:33.960 Like what is going on? And I look at the 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:39.160 monitor and the whole entire crib is just covered and 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:41.720 shit And she chose not to wake him up, to 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.600 clean him up or change his diaper. 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:46.360 Is this the same baby saying that you did the comedy. 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:52.240 Show for no? This? Yeah, this is we call her 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:53.040 last resorts. 0:15:53.160 --> 0:15:57.800 Okay, so she's still there just in case, Well, we. 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.680 Probably will not call on her again. But I could 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.560 not believe that. I was like, how do you let 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.920 a baby sleep? And shit like that was terrible. 0:16:06.240 --> 0:16:11.160 So when you discovered this, did you you called her 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:12.360 and said what No? 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.600 I was like, that's not something you confront you like, 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:16.840 you're not calling them back? 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:17.920 Okay, right right right? 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:24.560 Yeah? Yeah, well like things like that. And or there's 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:29.440 one time where the babysity that is the comedian she 0:16:29.440 --> 0:16:31.880 she taught my kid how to pick up the remote 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.680 and use it as a phone and she would say hello, 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:37.160 and so my son would pick it up and go hello, 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.880 like you know, the hello motion, like the cell phone 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.160 kind of thing. And she walked in the door one day, 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:47.320 uh to come to work, and she saw me doing 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:51.280 her her little thing. She's like, that was like our thing, 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:55.400 you know, like I was stealing my babysitters moves. Because 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:58.600 in all reality, babysitters have more experience than I do. 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:00.960 You know, as a mom, I have two ears under 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:03.320 my belt and they have way more than I do. 0:17:03.800 --> 0:17:06.480 So do you have like different babysitters in different towns? 0:17:07.080 --> 0:17:09.960 The comedian is your la? Is that your la babysitter 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:11.320 when you're when you're over. 0:17:11.119 --> 0:17:13.760 That side, yes, And I'm getting a Rolodex, you know, 0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:17.360 as I you know, meet more moms around the world. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:22.439 But yeah, I definitely don't have babysitters everywhere. But you know, 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.160 it's something that every time we choose to bring our 0:17:25.200 --> 0:17:29.120 son when we go somewhere, we ask our friends for advice. 0:17:29.200 --> 0:17:32.760 And it's funny too, because people get very territorial because 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:35.479 if you end up moving somewhere and you use your 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.359 babysitter and their babysitter likes you more, or you call 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.080 on the more, or they go to get a date 0:17:40.160 --> 0:17:42.320 night and they're taken by you, it gets weird. They're like, 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:45.560 we can't go out because you got her. 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.440 You've got You've booked a babysit. 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:51.000 Sol her from us. So it's funny. Especially in New York. 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.080 People get really like, I'm like, do you know anyone? 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:58.040 They're like no, kind of like okay, I get it. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:00.360 I get I'll look up somebody. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.520 You're Meanwhile, you're passing on the name of the person 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:04.960 who lets your baby just sleep covered in shit. 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:10.680 Oh yes, yes, yes, she's fantastic. She's very relaxed. 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:15.920 That sounds like a good rich source for a comedy, 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.960 and I've not heard of a comedy about babysitters and 0:18:20.040 --> 0:18:22.399 the relationship between babysitters. 0:18:21.760 --> 0:18:27.880 And parents, and everybody has different needs, and I think 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.960 I think there's like a whole new wave of shows 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:35.000 coming out that are about new mothers and how vulnerable 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:39.080 that is and the expectations that come with, you know, 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:43.480 especially mothers that feel guilty for going back to work. 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:46.280 Because I think that's just a society right now, is 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.800 that both partners have to work to make it. Especially 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:51.600 if you live in a city, it's just kind of 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:54.719 there's or if you're a creative person, it's like you 0:18:54.840 --> 0:18:57.280 have to work or you're not happy and you're not 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:01.720 as fulfilled. And it's my partner and I are both 0:19:01.840 --> 0:19:04.119 like creative and work a lot, and we're in the arts, 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.399 and we know it's going to be a struggle, but 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.359 we also want our kid to grow up watching us 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:10.400 struggle and figure it out and do what we love. 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.240 But it's a struggle, and there's a lot of people 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.880 helping us make a work, and I think that that's 0:19:15.880 --> 0:19:17.879 definitely not something that's talked about enough. 0:19:18.040 --> 0:19:22.960 Sure, so, how far have you got in planning this show? 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:25.000 Have you written any of it? Have you actually written 0:19:25.040 --> 0:19:25.720 any of that? Written it? 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:30.600 I have. I have episodes sketched out, and like, basically, 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:33.879 you know, it's it's loosely based on my life, where 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:40.040 the joke is so like the sitter that I'm writing 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.240 this with is hopefully going to be the main character, 0:19:42.280 --> 0:19:44.600 or at least it's based around her, depending I don't 0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:46.080 even know if I'm actually going to be in it 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:48.480 or if it's just loosely based on me. It would 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.679 be kind of be fun to direct somebody else. But 0:19:53.160 --> 0:19:57.760 my so, my friend who's who are collaborating is her 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:02.639 name is Bridgid Ryan. So my character is this write 0:20:02.760 --> 0:20:08.360 songwriter in New York who she's in such a happy 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:11.159 place in her life that she's just not inspired to 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.639 make a record. So her label comes and checks in 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:15.639 on her to see how she's doing. She's like, actually, 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.320 I'm doing really great. My kid is great, everything's great. 0:20:18.320 --> 0:20:21.520 But I I'm so happy. I just can't write. I 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:25.240 can't write right now. So you know, I actually got 0:20:25.280 --> 0:20:27.600 offered this acting job in LA and I think I'm 0:20:27.600 --> 0:20:29.919 gonna take it and just kind of take a break 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:33.000 and try something new and hopefully that inspires me to 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:36.480 write a record. And my label is so amazing and understanding. 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:40.560 Then they let me go, and so I go and 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.000 I and I have to find a sitter to help 0:20:43.080 --> 0:20:49.240 me land this new job while we relocate to Los Angeles. 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:51.880 And sounds this sounds quite familiar, right, Yeah? 0:20:51.920 --> 0:20:57.400 And then but my sitter is such a mess that 0:20:57.480 --> 0:21:00.560 at the end of every episode she tells me about 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:02.679 what's going on in her life and how terrible and 0:21:02.760 --> 0:21:06.840 chaotic and dramatic it is. And I am inspired by 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.280 her life and I start writing songs based on her 0:21:10.320 --> 0:21:14.760 about her nice. Okay, so like, and that's that's part 0:21:14.880 --> 0:21:15.960 of the plot. 0:21:16.440 --> 0:21:21.080 I started watching The o A last night. I did. 0:21:21.720 --> 0:21:23.560 I didn't know that we can necessarily get it over 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:25.760 here because our Netflix isn't the greatest. 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:27.920 Yes, for some reason, it's not the same, which I 0:21:27.960 --> 0:21:29.520 don't Yeah. 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:30.520 We don't get all the same stuff, but we do. 0:21:30.720 --> 0:21:33.399 But I found it and I watched episode one. But 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:38.160