WEBVTT - Mehdi Hasan & Rep. Jared Moskowitz

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,

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<v Speaker 1>where we discussed the top political headlines, and Fox News'

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<v Speaker 1>own Brian Kilmead says Putin is a bad guy, which

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<v Speaker 1>for some reason he needs to say.

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<v Speaker 2>We have such a great show for you today.

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<v Speaker 1>Ziteo's own Maddi Hassan stops by to talk about Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>promises to the American people and his current presidency. Then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk to Congressman Jared Moskowitz about his long feud

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<v Speaker 1>with Congressman James Comer. But first the news.

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<v Speaker 3>So my Elon musk Stoge has been sued after using

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<v Speaker 3>US marshals to take over the US African Development Foundation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the interesting data point here is that the

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<v Speaker 1>head of the US African Development Foundation is actually a

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<v Speaker 1>conservative Republican. So the current chair Ward Woke Ward as

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<v Speaker 1>we call him, by the way, I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>point out this administration is so crazy. Here's Ward Bream.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a Massachusetts based businessman. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>have two seconds here. He has a photo with George W. Bush,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, famous leb w. He gave the keynote address

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<v Speaker 1>at the National Prayer Breakfast in two thousand and eight.

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<v Speaker 1>You're going to be shocked to hear this. But this

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<v Speaker 1>guy ate no lib. Does it need to be said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you give the keynote address to the National Prayer Breakfast,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably not going to be a liberal. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the named the us ADF President. This is like yet

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<v Speaker 1>again another case of just mind blowing stupidity.

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<v Speaker 2>So he wrote a letter that.

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<v Speaker 1>States, in my absence, I have specifically instructed the staff

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<v Speaker 1>to adhere to our roles and procedures and not allow

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<v Speaker 1>any type of this kind of meeting without my presence.

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to working. So let me just point

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<v Speaker 1>out these guys did not let the young DOGE employees in.

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<v Speaker 1>They did not let them go into the computers. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>remember these DOGE employees ranged from Big Balls you'll remember

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<v Speaker 1>Big Balls, to the guy who got fired for racism

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<v Speaker 1>but then rehired because racism should not be disqualifying in

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<v Speaker 1>DOGE because if it were, hahaha. This is all about

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<v Speaker 1>trying to disrupt, trying to cut off aid, trying to

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<v Speaker 1>neoter the federal government, make it not work, make everyone afraid,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what they're doing. So Elon is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be met with a lot of lawsuits, just like he

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<v Speaker 1>was a Twitter. I mean, in some ways, watching him

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<v Speaker 1>do this in federal government, it's a little bit. He

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<v Speaker 1>just is exactly using the same playbook he did in Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, remember in Twitter when he showed up with

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<v Speaker 1>the same let that sink in You know, we saw

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<v Speaker 1>him on the floor of seapack with a chainsaw saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I am meme. I have become meme. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's low comedy followed by corporate malfeasans.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it really is hilarious because anyone who's ever

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<v Speaker 3>met people who work in these agencies knows that these

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<v Speaker 3>people are largely very conservative people. Them pretending that these

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<v Speaker 3>are all woke liberals who are like marching in BLM

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<v Speaker 3>Plaza is the one of the most silly things I've

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<v Speaker 3>ever heard.

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<v Speaker 2>It's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>So, speaking of very silly things, MAGA is very concerned

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<v Speaker 3>that Justice Amy Tony Barrett is now Justice David Suitor

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<v Speaker 3>part two and has gone woke.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I want to point this out.

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<v Speaker 1>When someone does something that displeases MAGA, it doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 1>what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>If you step out of line at all, you get.

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<v Speaker 1>The hail of hate and threats if you are one

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<v Speaker 1>of their people and you step out of line, you

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<v Speaker 1>get it ten times more. So, for example, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>reason that MAGA hates Bill Crystal. There's a reason that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is like tweeting about Bill Crystal. It's because they

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<v Speaker 1>think these are their people. I mean, not anymore obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's a reason that MAGA turned on someone like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the people who they consider to be their people.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a reason that Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Hates John Bolton so much, right, because he dared to criticize,

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<v Speaker 1>to not deliver, to not sign off on the most

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<v Speaker 1>craven of Trump's orders. And so here we go, Amy

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<v Speaker 1>Coney Barrett. She was unwilling to vote for some of

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<v Speaker 1>the more craven Trump ideas. There were two different rulings

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<v Speaker 1>that Trump World.

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<v Speaker 2>Did not like.

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<v Speaker 1>One was they were mad that she's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>only checks on the administration's efforts to freeze federal spending.

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<v Speaker 1>So she had ruled against Trump in these efforts. So

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<v Speaker 1>now Musk posted the only way to restore rule of

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<v Speaker 1>law to the people in America is to impeach judges, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because of course, so look, you know they want her

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<v Speaker 1>to just sign off on whatever it is they want

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<v Speaker 1>to do in Trump World, And so she is going

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<v Speaker 1>to catch a lot of ir She did, remember overturned

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<v Speaker 1>Roby Wade, so there's quite a lot of reason to

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<v Speaker 1>think she ain't no lib. But the Trump world's angry

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<v Speaker 1>influencers are furious. DEI judge influencer Jack Pasobiac posted on

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<v Speaker 1>ex diversity, Equity and inclusion higher as opposed to DUI,

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<v Speaker 1>which is more of Trump's administrations.

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<v Speaker 4>To say Mike Johnson's staff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Amy was a DEI appointee, said Laura Lumer, who

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<v Speaker 1>is always trying to get back and probably by the

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<v Speaker 1>end of this admin will be Trump's chief of staff.

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<v Speaker 2>Again. They're very mad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you can never make these people happy because

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<v Speaker 1>they really are so completely you know, they just demand

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<v Speaker 1>complete and utter Fieldy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, speaking of Fielty, What are the funniest things to

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<v Speaker 3>watch on Keeople news these days? Is everyone trying to

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<v Speaker 3>justify these stupid tariffs. Trump's best buddy, Elon Musk, is

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<v Speaker 3>now one hundred and eleven billion dollars from them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the one bright spot here is that Elon

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<v Speaker 1>Musk is destroying his wealth for some reason. It turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that destroying the federal government does not make you popular.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically Elon Musk on Wednesday the world's richest man, with

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<v Speaker 1>his pockets one hundred and ten billion dollars lighter than

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<v Speaker 1>his peak networth of four hundred and sixty four billion.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what happened. Elon Musk and Donald Trump have made

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<v Speaker 1>the stock market plummet because of two things likely. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean again, you know, there's a lot of factors, but

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<v Speaker 1>the two biggest factors are the incredible instability of watching

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<v Speaker 1>someone take a chainsaw to the federal government and then

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<v Speaker 1>the incredible instability of tariffing our closest neighbors and allies.

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<v Speaker 1>Tesla stock, which makes up a lot of Elon Musk's

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<v Speaker 1>enormous wells, took a hit from this market downturn. Musk

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<v Speaker 1>lost a billion dollars in one day, one point five

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars. Here's the thing you have throughout the country

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<v Speaker 1>and throughout the world, people burning down Tesla showrooms. By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, no one should be doing anything violent, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing that. We're seeing a groundswell of rage at

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<v Speaker 1>the richest man in the world. And also he is

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<v Speaker 1>losing money as it's going, which is you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that happens when you do that. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's important to remember that he's also doing SpaceX

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<v Speaker 1>recently had some interplanetary trash raining down from the sky

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<v Speaker 1>in Florida. Again, you would think there would be some

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<v Speaker 1>legal would be some legal recourse.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maddie Hassan is the founder and editor of chief of Ziteo.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to I don't know. Have you been on? Have

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<v Speaker 2>you not been on? It doesn't matter. Hi, Maddie, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been on this show. I know.

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<v Speaker 4>Was I not forgettable by medical.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's because honestly, you were a fancy cable news

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<v Speaker 1>host and I had to go through PR That's true.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm a non fancy formal cable well as.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone who is not a host of anything but her

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<v Speaker 1>own home. I host my canine friends in my own house.

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<v Speaker 2>When I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Something to be proud of exactly, can we just talk.

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<v Speaker 1>We're the United States of Amnesia. We know nothing, we

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<v Speaker 1>remember nothing, we learned nothing, discuss.

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<v Speaker 4>We have the memory of goldfish.

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<v Speaker 5>We memory hold everything, and therefore we at shot, surprised,

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<v Speaker 5>credulous when Donald Trump does things either a he told

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<v Speaker 5>us he would do or be did before.

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<v Speaker 4>So, yes, we are in.

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<v Speaker 5>This mess because people don't remember shit in this country.

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<v Speaker 5>America in general has a lot of problems because we

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<v Speaker 5>don't remember anything from our history or anyone else's history.

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<v Speaker 5>And now Donald Trump has obviously weaponized that for his advantage,

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<v Speaker 5>to the point where he said in a press conference

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<v Speaker 5>with Kirs Starmer last week, did I say Zelenski was

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<v Speaker 5>a dictator?

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<v Speaker 4>And it's kind of like, I'm sure there.

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<v Speaker 6>Are many of ems.

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<v Speaker 4>Y did he say that? I'm sure he had a

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<v Speaker 4>receptive audience of people, like maybe he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm telling you my favorite was I'm old

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<v Speaker 1>enough to remember nine to eleven. And Trump was amusing

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<v Speaker 1>in the office that Europe never came to our aid.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, America went to war. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you know about this. I feel like you may not.

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<v Speaker 1>In numerous countries had nothing to do with Saudi Arabia,

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<v Speaker 1>right done under that right, stunned because we were mad

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<v Speaker 1>about terrorism. And look as someone who smelled the smoke

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<v Speaker 1>and flew over the ashes, like I get it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>but also like NATO has actually worked out pretty well

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<v Speaker 1>for America.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh very well.

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<v Speaker 5>All of the post war international architecture was basically constructed

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<v Speaker 5>to boost American primacies.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a great irony.

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<v Speaker 5>While some of us on the left, you know, have

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<v Speaker 5>had our criticisms of NATO, had our criticisms of view

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<v Speaker 5>n security.

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<v Speaker 2>Care Chatrian Act.

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<v Speaker 5>My point being, like even the liberal international architecture that

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<v Speaker 5>now the Republicans want to tear down. Elon Musk is

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<v Speaker 5>talking openly about withdrawing not just from NATO, but insanely

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<v Speaker 5>from the United Nations. All of that has been a

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<v Speaker 5>great benefit to the United States and its role in

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<v Speaker 5>the world as the sole superpower post Cold War. And

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<v Speaker 5>it's interesting that he's tearing this down because it makes

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<v Speaker 5>people ask questions whose interest is in It's clearly not

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<v Speaker 5>in the US Empire's interest. It might be in Donald

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<v Speaker 5>Trump's personal financial interest.

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<v Speaker 4>It might align with his.

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<v Speaker 5>View of the world, where the world is just a

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<v Speaker 5>kind of group of warring autocrats and he's just one

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<v Speaker 5>amongst many, alongside Shi Jinping and Vladimir Putin and the

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<v Speaker 5>rest of them.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how he sees the world.

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<v Speaker 5>And by the way, on the memory front, there's a

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<v Speaker 5>bunch of Americans who can't remember stuff, and then there

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<v Speaker 5>are a bunch of Americans who are just ignorant of history.

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<v Speaker 5>And Donald Trump is obviously in that second group. He

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<v Speaker 5>just doesn't know anything. Remember when he went to the

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<v Speaker 5>grave the cemetery with John Kelly and said, you.

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<v Speaker 4>Know which side were we on in in the World Wars.

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<v Speaker 5>In fact, he said in the Oval Office just this

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<v Speaker 5>past week, Molly, why does.

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<v Speaker 4>Japan not have to defend us? And we have to

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<v Speaker 4>defend them.

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<v Speaker 5>Because we freaking run their constitution that way them in

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<v Speaker 5>a horrible world war and said you need to be

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<v Speaker 5>pacifist and we'll guarantee your security.

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<v Speaker 4>And Trump's like, why did we do that? Who did?

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite is USA?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it was like they were like, we must staff

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<v Speaker 1>USA it And I'm like, isn't that just a front

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<v Speaker 1>for the CIA?

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<v Speaker 2>Hasn't that always just been a front for the CIA?

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<v Speaker 5>But that's what's so funny is that some on the

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<v Speaker 5>far left and some of the far right and be like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>goodwinness to USACA. And I'm like, yeah, USA, I did

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<v Speaker 5>did some horrible stuff in terms of foreign governments pushing

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<v Speaker 5>American propaganda, but it also saved a bunch of babies

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<v Speaker 5>lives who are now going to die because Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 5>has basically gutted this department and what should have been

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<v Speaker 5>a bigger story was the former Acting Assistant Administrative USID

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<v Speaker 5>who published a memo to his superiors was then put

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<v Speaker 5>on leave. The New York Times and other outlets got

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<v Speaker 5>the memo, and it's stunning. It talks about your quarter,

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<v Speaker 5>I think, quarter of a million kids getting polio. It

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<v Speaker 5>talks about how many people are going to die from

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<v Speaker 5>malaria and HIV.

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<v Speaker 4>It's horrific.

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<v Speaker 5>It's just it's mad Max predictions, and this should be

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<v Speaker 5>the biggest story in the US, but it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>In MAGA world's defense, American children are also getting measles.

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<v Speaker 5>So yes, all the children can suffer together before we

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<v Speaker 5>send them down the mines, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there is a sort of call back to

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<v Speaker 1>Victorian America that is meant to be nonpartisan.

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<v Speaker 5>When they say make America great again, I always say, well,

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<v Speaker 5>what date.

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<v Speaker 4>What year you want to go back to? Though it

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<v Speaker 4>was great?

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<v Speaker 5>Really, we're getting more and more intel here from there.

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<v Speaker 5>It's not nineteen fifties. It's more like eighteen fifties.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things that I think is the most

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<v Speaker 1>impressive about where we are right now is that the

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<v Speaker 1>federal government well not as decimated as it will be

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<v Speaker 1>if this administration ever ends, it's still pretty fucking decimated.

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<v Speaker 1>We know there are measles right now in Texas, New Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>and Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>What we don't know is.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether or not there are measles in everywhere else. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>pretty convinced that measles are going to be the next

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<v Speaker 1>thing we're going to have to fucking deal with because

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<v Speaker 1>it's wildly contagious and we don't have the vaccination numbers

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<v Speaker 1>to get us where we need to be to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>another pandemic.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, get in line measles with bird flip. In

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<v Speaker 4>terms of what's coming back, you saw a couple of things,

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<v Speaker 4>I would say.

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<v Speaker 5>One is you saw Donald Trump literally push the autism

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<v Speaker 5>bullshit in his fake State of the Union in his

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<v Speaker 5>addressed to Congress. That might I mean, I don't know

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<v Speaker 5>how many people have pointed this out, and maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 5>wrong here, but surely, surely that is the most the

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<v Speaker 5>singular high profile platform that an anti vaccination talking point

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<v Speaker 5>has reached in modern world history. The President of the

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<v Speaker 5>United States using an official speech to Congress to basically

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<v Speaker 5>push this idea that vaccinations are causing orders. He didn't

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<v Speaker 5>say very cleverly said we don't know why the rates

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<v Speaker 5>are going up. We do know why the rates are

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<v Speaker 5>going up because of better information, better awareness, but clearly

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<v Speaker 5>not to do with the vaccine, as every single study

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<v Speaker 5>is shown. But he wanted to push that talking point

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<v Speaker 5>in the RFK junior sitting in the crowd loves. It's

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<v Speaker 5>a deeply dangerous talking point. It will end up killing kids.

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<v Speaker 5>My biggest objection to Donald Trump's return to office was

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<v Speaker 5>the memory holding of the pandemic. Next week, thirteenth of

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<v Speaker 5>March is five years since we went international emergency mode.

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<v Speaker 4>Here we have memory hold the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 5>I had people telling me we survived one Trump term,

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<v Speaker 5>we can survive another.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, no, four hundred thousand people didn't survive the first

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<v Speaker 4>Trump term.

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<v Speaker 5>About two hundred thousand of them, according to the Lance

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<v Speaker 5>and Medical Journal, could have survived if Donald Trump hadn't

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<v Speaker 5>been president. So he literally oversaw the mass death of

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<v Speaker 5>Americans in his first term. We memory hold a Now,

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<v Speaker 5>God forbid is you say we could see the deaths

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<v Speaker 5>of more children from diseases like measles that are easily

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<v Speaker 5>preventable and were preventable. But here's the worst, worst part

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<v Speaker 5>of it. Here's the real dystopian point. And I don't

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<v Speaker 5>want to leave your listeners hopeless. That this really really

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<v Speaker 5>makes me kind of darkens my mood. Is The evil genius.

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<v Speaker 4>Of Trump and co.

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<v Speaker 5>This time around is that they have found a way,

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<v Speaker 5>unlike every right wing predecessor, to avoid any accountability by

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<v Speaker 5>basically destroying all the methods we have of knowing what

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<v Speaker 5>the fuck is going on. So you say, measle spaces, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>but how do you know there are any measles cases?

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<v Speaker 4>The Department of Health's not counting.

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<v Speaker 5>If a tree falls in a wood and no one's

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<v Speaker 5>around to hear it, does it make a noise?

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<v Speaker 4>If there are lots of meus cases.

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<v Speaker 5>And the Department of Health and the CDC and the

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<v Speaker 5>NAH say there are not or aren't counting, And how

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<v Speaker 5>do we know?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 5>And every in every aspect of government, he's destroying the

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<v Speaker 5>ability to document and examine whether in the past, whether

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<v Speaker 5>we had a Republican president or democratic president.

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<v Speaker 4>And George W.

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<v Speaker 5>Bush tried to do what Trump did in terms of

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<v Speaker 5>undermining the statistical collection of basic data. They're trying to

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<v Speaker 5>destroy the Weather Service, right, So when climate change carries

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<v Speaker 5>on destroying our country with more natural.

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<v Speaker 4>Disasters, who's going to know, because they won't be an.

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<v Speaker 5>Official count of how many natural disasters there are right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not great now. The good news is no, there

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<v Speaker 1>is no good news. What is the good news?

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<v Speaker 5>The good news is that so far, in the short

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<v Speaker 5>period of time he's been president, most people have seen

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<v Speaker 5>through this bullshit, some people in his own base who

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<v Speaker 5>are quickly getting economically.

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<v Speaker 4>Harmed in a way. We didn't realize it would be

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<v Speaker 4>this quick. I knew who's going to harm his own base,

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<v Speaker 4>but I thought it would be a bit slower.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that that kind of move fast and break

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<v Speaker 5>things is costing them popular support.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 4>You could argue they.

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<v Speaker 5>Don't care about popular support because they have no interest

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<v Speaker 5>in winning free and fair elections in the future. But

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<v Speaker 5>clearly that polling shows he's more unpopular than any president

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<v Speaker 5>at this point in their administration. Two months in, you're

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<v Speaker 5>seeing Muscus super popular. You're seeing Republicans at town halls

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<v Speaker 5>shouting at Republican members of Congress, and they'm now canceling

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<v Speaker 5>all town halls.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think in that sense, people are not that befuddled.

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<v Speaker 5>I think most people outside of the magabase get it

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<v Speaker 5>that this is bull shit. Firing veterans across government is bullshit.

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<v Speaker 5>But how does that translate into actual political costs for him?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know yet, because this is not a normal

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<v Speaker 4>political party in a normal country. Worried about normal consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, I think that's right. I would also add

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<v Speaker 1>that yesterday I was at a dinner and I looked

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<v Speaker 1>at my phone. The woman next to me was giving

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<v Speaker 1>me a hard time about looking at my phone. I

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<v Speaker 1>had like literally had it away for like an hour,

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<v Speaker 1>and then find she was like, you're not supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>do this here, and I was I wanted to like

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<v Speaker 1>punch her, which I know is not how you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to act. So I didn't, but I did think to myself.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, the good thing is that woman doesn't go on

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<v Speaker 5>her phone, so she can't hear you saying this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, let us pry.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point of this is I looked at my

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<v Speaker 1>phone and there was a that they had closed the

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<v Speaker 1>airports in various parts of Florida because of space dust

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<v Speaker 1>debris coming from a SpaceX launch. Now you'll remember that

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<v Speaker 1>the man who is currently pruning the federal government despite

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<v Speaker 1>having no elected office, is also the man who is

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<v Speaker 1>launching these rockets into space that are closing these airports

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<v Speaker 1>in the state that is governed by Ron DeSantis, who

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of Trump's, one of Trump's sort of mini

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<v Speaker 1>Me's slash rivals.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of incredible.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you're very generous in referring to it as

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<v Speaker 5>pruning the federal governess more like flattering and burning a

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<v Speaker 5>federal government. Yeah, Rondi Santis is a pathetic figure who

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<v Speaker 5>is even more pathetic than he was when he ran

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<v Speaker 5>in the primaries and then pulled out like he's like

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<v Speaker 5>Roonder Sanders was the white knight of the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 5>who was going to save them from Trump. Some of

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<v Speaker 5>us said at the time that was bullshit. The man

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<v Speaker 5>has a glass jaw, he's got the of a chair,

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<v Speaker 5>and he you know, he crashed and burned very quickly.

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump mocked him and said that he grew fingers.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, Donald Trump suggested that Roondes Sanders was secretly gay.

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<v Speaker 5>He suggested that Rondes Sanders was cheating on his wife.

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<v Speaker 5>He suggested that Ronder Sanders had groomed high school girls

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<v Speaker 5>when he was a history teacher. And Sanders just took

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<v Speaker 5>it all and endorsed Trump for president. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 5>if you saw Megan McCain this week, Molly saying thank

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<v Speaker 5>you Donald Trump for something he said in his beach

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<v Speaker 5>that she liked, and you know, you have to think

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<v Speaker 5>about Meghan McCain and Meghan Kelly, and Ron De Santis

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<v Speaker 5>and Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio publicly humiliated, but you

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<v Speaker 5>have to think about who are up against it. These

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<v Speaker 5>people have no spines, they have no shame. They have

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<v Speaker 5>been publicly humiliated and beaten down either directly or indirectly

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<v Speaker 5>Viya their families by Donald Trump, and yet they are

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<v Speaker 5>part of his praetorian guard.

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<v Speaker 4>Right now. They are his strongest defenders.

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<v Speaker 5>Marco Rubio is going out in the media and defending

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<v Speaker 5>his Russia policy, even though Marko Rubia does not believe

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<v Speaker 5>in his Russian policy even one percent.

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<v Speaker 4>Marko Rubia spent the past ten.

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<v Speaker 5>Years being a hawk on Russia, warning against any appeasement

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<v Speaker 5>with Putin, saying we have to stand with Ukraine, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 5>et cetera. And now he is the face of the

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<v Speaker 5>Donald Trump administration's complete pivot to being as pro Russian

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<v Speaker 5>as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, it's true, but I do think it is

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to watch Elon Musk learn how to do government in.

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<v Speaker 2>Real time, or not learn how to do government right

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<v Speaker 2>like we saw him in the Oval.

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<v Speaker 1>Say he had fire the ebol of people, but then

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<v Speaker 1>he had rehired the Ebola people. But it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>in fact he had neither right. He had fired them

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<v Speaker 1>and not rehired them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>And he fired the nuclear weapons protection people then tried

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<v Speaker 5>to rehidd them.

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<v Speaker 2>Those people he did rehire.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he fired the bird.

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<v Speaker 5>Flu people and then tried to rehire the bird flew people. Oh,

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<v Speaker 5>the veterans are fair hotline where they fired the people

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<v Speaker 5>who manned the hotline and then tried to hire them back.

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<v Speaker 4>And I don't believe they have done so yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, those veterans, I mean, why do veterans need any help?

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<v Speaker 4>They're fine fine. I mean Donald Trump's a veteran. Oh

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<v Speaker 4>no he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>No he's not certainly not.

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<v Speaker 4>So El Musk is a veteran. Oh no he's not.

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<v Speaker 6>So.

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<v Speaker 5>Look this guy, I just find it ironic. I was

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<v Speaker 5>talking to Paul Krugman yesterday and I said.

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<v Speaker 4>You're an economist. You've written about the economy for years.

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<v Speaker 4>Have you ever seen you?

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<v Speaker 5>We talked about oligarchy and abstract and like academic texts.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you actually seen oligarchy in practice? The world's richest

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<v Speaker 5>man is in charge of basically dismantling the elected government

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<v Speaker 5>in the name of fighting an unelected bureaucracy. He's not elected,

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<v Speaker 5>he's not vetted, he's not Senate confirmed.

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<v Speaker 4>And the best part of it is, at the same.

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<v Speaker 5>Time as they're doing all of this, he's also getting

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<v Speaker 5>new government contracts to add to his previous government contracts.

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<v Speaker 4>The hypocrisy is out there in plain sight.

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<v Speaker 5>And the even better part of it is CNN we

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<v Speaker 5>reporting this week that Republican lawmakers are asking Elon Musk

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<v Speaker 5>can they please have a vote on dose cuts?

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<v Speaker 4>Please?

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<v Speaker 2>That is amazing?

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<v Speaker 4>Could we vote on something I want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Just talk about a second. So here we have Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>Giving up all of their power, right, all of their power,

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<v Speaker 1>not just in the executive branch, to a random dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Well he's a very rich random dude. Let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>What I think is so amazing is there been so

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<v Speaker 1>many wealthy people for so long who have been considered

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<v Speaker 1>to be boogeyman of the left or the right. The

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<v Speaker 1>Koch Brothers, George Soros, this guy just wanders in. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even go here, right, he has three different you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's Canadian South African Americans, who's three different passports. So

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't even have really any skin in the game here,

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<v Speaker 1>and he goes in, he gives Donald Trump a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money, and then he gets to run the government

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<v Speaker 1>and really destroy it.

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<v Speaker 5>The push back on is he clearly has very financial

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<v Speaker 5>skin in the game. The guy made his fortune here

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<v Speaker 5>at The Washington Post reports that he oversee.

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<v Speaker 2>With subsidies with governments.

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<v Speaker 5>Before we even get to the subsidies, the Washington Post

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<v Speaker 5>reports that he may have violated his visa in terms

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<v Speaker 5>of illegally working here when he shouldn't have been working here,

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<v Speaker 5>which is great because he's the champion against illegal immigration,

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<v Speaker 5>he's the champion against government waste and overspending. And yet,

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<v Speaker 5>according to the Post, thirty eight billion dollars he's made

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<v Speaker 5>in contracts and subsidies and tax credits over the last

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<v Speaker 5>couple of decades. He wouldn't be the richest man in

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<v Speaker 5>the world today were it not for the support at

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<v Speaker 5>certain points of the federal government, not just the federal government,

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<v Speaker 5>Democratic Party administrations. Barack Obama saved Tesla after the financial

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<v Speaker 5>crisis in two thousand and.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine, probably a mistake. Looking back on it, that probably

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<v Speaker 2>was a mistake.

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<v Speaker 5>I think many things the Democrats did visa vi Elon

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<v Speaker 5>Musk was a mistake. Funny though, because some people and

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<v Speaker 5>rocannor who's a congressman, I like a lot who's Silicon

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<v Speaker 5>Valley congressman?

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<v Speaker 4>He pushed this art which I think is nonsense. And

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<v Speaker 4>I've said this to Roe's face.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he does represent that district.

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<v Speaker 4>And he says Democrats.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people pushed the argument Democrats were mean

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<v Speaker 5>to a Musk. They pushed him into the arms of

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<v Speaker 5>the Republican. First of all, he's a grown ass fan.

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<v Speaker 5>He has to take responsibility for his own decisions. To

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<v Speaker 5>amplify Nazis on his website, no one forced him to

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<v Speaker 5>do that. But number two Democrats actually soft on Musk.

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<v Speaker 4>I would take the exact opposite view.

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<v Speaker 5>Obama saved Musk back when Musk was pretending to be

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<v Speaker 5>Tony Stark. This great, I'm going to get us Tamar's guy.

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<v Speaker 5>And then even after he goes full right wing, they

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<v Speaker 5>just led him by Twitter. Did you notice that they

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<v Speaker 5>put no impediments, no sand in the wheels, twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 5>two Biden administration, Democrats in control of Congress. They just

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<v Speaker 5>let him buy Twitter. I give you this example. If

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<v Speaker 5>tomorrow George Soros was about to buy Fox, do you

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<v Speaker 5>think the Republican body would sit quietly and say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>sure you can buy it. They wouldn't haul him in

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<v Speaker 5>front of the sec various they would doj They wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>do everything in their power to stop Soros from buying

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<v Speaker 5>their main communications platform. Democrats did nothing. And then after

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<v Speaker 5>Musk goes full fash, they didn't invite him.

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<v Speaker 4>People forget this.

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<v Speaker 5>Chuck Schumer invited Elon Musk to a meeting in his

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<v Speaker 5>office to discuss the future of AI with a bunch

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<v Speaker 5>of tech bosses while Musk was leading a full right

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<v Speaker 5>wing campaign against the Democratic body. So this is who

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<v Speaker 5>the Democrats are. Unfortunately, this is where I have no hope.

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<v Speaker 5>To go back to your early question, this party does

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<v Speaker 5>not understand the moment we're in. This party does not.

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<v Speaker 4>Know how to fight.

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<v Speaker 5>The leadership is the wrong leadership and needs to go asap.

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<v Speaker 5>Otherwise rules continue to be screwed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I would quibble with certain parts of.

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<v Speaker 4>That which wits the leadership.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was the thing that got me quite mad

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<v Speaker 1>was that there was a sense in which, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they campaigned that this is an emergency. Democracy is on

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<v Speaker 1>the ballot, which I actually think is completely true. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me recount a fight that I had with someone who

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<v Speaker 1>I am friendly with, who is a member who voted

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<v Speaker 1>for Jerry Connolly. And I said, really, said, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to vote for Jerry Connolly as a ranking of oversight

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<v Speaker 1>over AOC who has millions.

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<v Speaker 2>Of people who follow her every move.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, I O, Jerry, so yes, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of bringing your stuff to animal to a knife fight.

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<v Speaker 1>We're polite where we operate in the statistico I hate

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<v Speaker 1>and I think is wrong. Dad said, I am not convinced.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they need more focused and more aggressive leadership.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it is possible that hikeim can get there.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on what evidence? Do you know? That?

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<v Speaker 5>This is the man who said Donald Trump's captain chaos,

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<v Speaker 5>which is a joke.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that was really stupid.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the man who, when asked about Eric Adams

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<v Speaker 5>being held hostage by the Trump DOJ, said what's up

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<v Speaker 5>to New York As to decide. This is a man

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<v Speaker 5>who this week, apparently according to Axios, in private, has

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<v Speaker 5>been dressing down Democrats who made noise during the Congressional address, saying,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, we need to respect the office's presidency and

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<v Speaker 5>not act like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Come on, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, maybe not? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think there are some Democrats in office

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<v Speaker 1>who have been doing a really good job, like Chris Murphy. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one Chris Murphy, Brian Jotts, AOC, Maxwell Frost, Jasmine Crockett,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jamie Raskin.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean there are some, but I'm not convinced.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to have the best communicator as the head

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<v Speaker 1>of the party, Necessariah lay. You need to have a

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<v Speaker 1>head of the party who doesn't hold you back, which

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<v Speaker 1>what you're saying is a good point about Jefferies.

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<v Speaker 6>Though I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a little bit heartened.

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<v Speaker 1>I have been very down on him, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit hardened that yesterday he did, in fact

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<v Speaker 1>do this little video where he seemed like he was

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<v Speaker 1>starting to take this seriously, taking the challenges more seriously.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, I defer to you on this because you

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<v Speaker 1>seem more passionate.

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<v Speaker 5>That doesn't mean anything. I'm passionate about everything. I'massionate about

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<v Speaker 5>what I'm gonna f Lungelo and fast.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm passionate about that. I have to wait a few

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<v Speaker 4>hours to eat. Well.

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<v Speaker 5>Look, if we can continue pressuring him, maybe he'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Improved, and that is ultimately has to be the goal.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, thank you, Maddy. I hope you'll come back.

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you definitely if you'll have me.

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<v Speaker 1>Congressman Jared Moscowitz represents Florida's twenty third district. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to Fast Politics.

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<v Speaker 2>Representative moscow it's what's going on, Mollie. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on. Explain to me what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on?

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<v Speaker 6>Hold on, you seem confused.

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<v Speaker 2>What's wrong? I am with that word.

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<v Speaker 1>I am as confused as James Comber reading a book.

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<v Speaker 6>He's angry these days. Have you seen Comber in com

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<v Speaker 6>I mean he's yelling at members, he's throwing them out.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is he angry?

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<v Speaker 6>He won He's angry because he's James Comer. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>if I was Comber, I'd be pissed.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's sort of talk this through Donald Trump. He did

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<v Speaker 1>a State of the Union you're not supposed to call

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<v Speaker 1>it a state of the Union because it's the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>He is terrifing us. Explain to us what you think

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is up to.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I'm not a psychologist, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>how much time we have. You know, he gave a speech.

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<v Speaker 6>It was not a state of the Union. It was

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<v Speaker 6>not a state or union. And it was a borderline

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<v Speaker 6>not even borderline. It really was a campaign speech. It was,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, relitigating all the things he said about Joe

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<v Speaker 6>Biden on the campaign trail. It was a red meat speech,

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<v Speaker 6>and I think that was intentional. I think it was

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<v Speaker 6>a red meat speech in order to rally his troops,

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<v Speaker 6>not to unify the country, not to appeal to independence,

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<v Speaker 6>not to try to figure out what Democrats he might

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<v Speaker 6>be able to work with. It was to appeal to

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<v Speaker 6>the base, who right now is upset over how some

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<v Speaker 6>of dose is executing these firings, especially with veterans. I

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<v Speaker 6>think he was trying to rally the base because his

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<v Speaker 6>people go to the grocery store and the price of

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<v Speaker 6>eggs or the price of gold, every egg is a

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<v Speaker 6>Faberge egg now, right he was trying to appeal to them.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, they saw the tariffs, they saw the stock

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<v Speaker 6>market go down, they were worried about their fourwin k

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<v Speaker 6>So I think he was giving them a pep rally

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<v Speaker 6>to rally the troops. I also think he was trying

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<v Speaker 6>to talk to the people in the caucus. He's got

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<v Speaker 6>to try to figure out how to keep government open

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<v Speaker 6>next week, and he's pitching for them to vote for

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<v Speaker 6>a clean CR, something Republicans don't want to do, hate doing.

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<v Speaker 6>Historically thirty forty members vote against. And so I think

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<v Speaker 6>that was the intent of his speech.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's important just to pause for a

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<v Speaker 1>second and remember that actually there is no CR yet.

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<v Speaker 1>It's supposed to come over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. It does strike me.

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<v Speaker 1>That nobody is in any kind of rush, despite the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that the government shuts down in what fourteen days,

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<v Speaker 1>twelve days.

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<v Speaker 6>E's going bever the weekend when Congress is not in

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<v Speaker 6>session or here, and that's really when we do our

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<v Speaker 6>best work, quite frankly, Molly, is when oh, yes, we're

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<v Speaker 6>not even here.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Johnson has always seemed to me to be a

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<v Speaker 1>person who is not great at math, but sometimes he's

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<v Speaker 1>been able to get stuff done like, for example, when

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<v Speaker 1>he passed this reconciliation, which has eight hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>billion dollars cut over ten years for Medicaid, explained to

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<v Speaker 1>us that was a situation where they didn't have the votes.

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<v Speaker 1>They had the votes, they didn't have the votes reporting

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<v Speaker 1>said that actually just Trump called up members of Congress

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<v Speaker 1>and told them did basically Mike Johnson's job right whipping

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<v Speaker 1>the vote.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, look, I think Trump is obviously he's the president,

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<v Speaker 6>but I think he's also the de facto speaker of

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<v Speaker 6>the House. I think I think Mike Johnson will do

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<v Speaker 6>what Trump asks, and I don't think Mike Johnson will

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<v Speaker 6>do something Trump doesn't want. And so what we're going

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<v Speaker 6>to watch in this timeline that we're all stuck on,

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<v Speaker 6>what we're going to watch is we're going to watch

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<v Speaker 6>thirty or forty Republicans who have stood on principle, whether

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<v Speaker 6>we agree or disagree, stood on principle against CRS because

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<v Speaker 6>they don't believe that's how government should be funded. They

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<v Speaker 6>believe in single subject spending bills that they don't want

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<v Speaker 6>to vote for the Nancy Pelosi COVID spending bill, which

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<v Speaker 6>is what that's the budget. We're using if you do

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<v Speaker 6>a CR. That's been their position. We're going to watch

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<v Speaker 6>Trump come to the Hill tell them that they need

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<v Speaker 6>to vote for a clean CR. Trump's going to lobby

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<v Speaker 6>them to do it, and we're gonna watch all of

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<v Speaker 6>these folks just fold and do what Trump wants. I

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<v Speaker 6>can tell you I'm not voting for a clean CR

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<v Speaker 6>next week.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're not known to be a wild leftist, So

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<v Speaker 1>tell us why you're not voting for a clean CR.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not voting for a clean CR for two reasons.

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<v Speaker 6>One is whether I like the results of the election

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<v Speaker 6>or not. I think the American people voted against the

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<v Speaker 6>status quo, and so a CR is the status quo.

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<v Speaker 6>It's literally just continuing to do what we've been doing,

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<v Speaker 6>which is the American people have said we don't want. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>Mike Johnson promised to do spending bills, he promised his caucus.

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<v Speaker 6>It was a commitment he made to the Freedom Caucus,

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<v Speaker 6>and he's gonna go against that. That's number one. Number two,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a trap because whether you like Doge or you

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<v Speaker 6>don't like Doge, you think the mission of Doze is right,

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<v Speaker 6>but you think the execution of Doze is wrong, which

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<v Speaker 6>is actually what the majority of American people look like.

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<v Speaker 6>They believe. About seventy five plus percent of Americans believe

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<v Speaker 6>in the mission of Jos, but only thirty four percent

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<v Speaker 6>of Americans believe in how they're doing it. They claim

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<v Speaker 6>they found, you know, one hundred billion dollars worth of fraud, waste,

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<v Speaker 6>and abuse.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's impossible to substantiate any of that.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, let's not argue that for a second. That's what

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<v Speaker 6>they say, Molly, So let's just for this conversation take

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<v Speaker 6>them at their word. What Mike Johnson is proposing is

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<v Speaker 6>to refund all that fraud, waste, and abuse. And there

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<v Speaker 6>is no way on God's green Earth. And I am

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<v Speaker 6>going to walk myself into a trap where someone could

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<v Speaker 6>say we found that they were sending condoms to Gaza,

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<v Speaker 6>which we know is not true. They we found that

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<v Speaker 6>they were sending condoms to Gaza or Sesame Street in Iraq,

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.000
<v Speaker 6>or they were making transgender mice, also not true.

0:32:40.880 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, those mice are actually a different anyway, It doesn't

0:32:44.320 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>point matter, but the point of the mices.

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:50.040
<v Speaker 6>And Jared Moskowitz voted to refund all of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.720
<v Speaker 6>I'm out walking into that trap, and so listen. They

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 6>have been telling us for months now that they have

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:58.040
<v Speaker 6>a mandate, which, to be clear to my Republican friends,

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 6>a mandate is not when me and Tim burd should

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.240
<v Speaker 6>go to dinner, right. A mandate, okay, is that they

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 6>feel they won the House to senate the presidency. They

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 6>won the popular vote. They have a mandate, but they

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:09.960
<v Speaker 6>only have a three vote majority in the House. So

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 6>go pass it. Do it on your own. You don't

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 6>need us, you're not talking to us, you're not negotiating

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 6>with us. Do it on your own.

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 2>They can't do it on their own, though, well.

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 6>Look, don't say that, Molly. If the President really comes

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 6>down on them, it appears at this moment the only one,

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 6>and I disagree with him on just about everything, the

0:33:26.520 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 6>only one that has any principle is Thomas Massey. Right.

0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.160
<v Speaker 6>The entire Freedom Caucus, which has not voted for a

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:34.880
<v Speaker 6>CR since I've been here, has railed against the CR

0:33:34.960 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 6>as the devil's milk and you know it, the Satan's this.

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 6>It looks like they're about that is rollover and capitulate,

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 6>and that's just where we are. It's a party of

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:47.200
<v Speaker 6>one and they're going to give the president whatever he wants.

0:33:47.400 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So then oh.

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 6>And they're gonna add the debt. Molly, how about that one? Right?

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:55.600
<v Speaker 6>The Reconciliation Bill is going to add trillions of dollars

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 6>to the debt. A cr will add trillions of dollars

0:33:58.080 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 6>to the debt. And yet you know, somehow they want

0:34:01.360 --> 0:34:03.240
<v Speaker 6>to talk to us about how the country's bankrupt.

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well no, I mean, obviously there's so many lies here.

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:10.440
<v Speaker 1>It's hard to farce what is real and what is

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:10.919
<v Speaker 1>not real?

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 6>Right?

0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:13.399
<v Speaker 2>What is the sort of priorities here?

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like they're like, it's an emergency, it's an

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:19.439
<v Speaker 1>oil emergency. But we're the largest exporter of lergy, right,

0:34:19.640 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 1>loquified natural gas. Obviously it is an emergency when they

0:34:23.400 --> 0:34:25.840
<v Speaker 1>want something, not an emergency when it doesn't. But it

0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:29.120
<v Speaker 1>seems like we're hurtling towards the shutdown. But there are

0:34:29.400 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 1>and this happened in Troum one point zero. There are

0:34:31.520 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>all these unintended consequences of trump Ism. For example, there's

0:34:37.000 --> 0:34:41.319
<v Speaker 1>some measles outbreak. This is, you know, insane. In Texas,

0:34:41.560 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>we have RFK Junior saying that CODs liver oil is

0:34:45.840 --> 0:34:47.040
<v Speaker 1>an excellent treatment.

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 6>It's not, well, Miley, you're not taking that. I've been

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:54.040
<v Speaker 6>taking that now for years and it keeps the spirits away.

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to say that because I'm a normal person.

0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 1>I got vaccinated and then I ended up having to

0:34:59.560 --> 0:35:02.040
<v Speaker 1>get vaccin again because I was born in that weird

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:04.680
<v Speaker 1>period where the vaccine didn't work. So I just had

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.480
<v Speaker 1>my numbers check to make sure that I'm vaccinated because

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>measles is coming.

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:10.319
<v Speaker 6>I mean, the best part about that whole thing, by

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 6>the way, is our of case children are vaccinated.

0:35:12.760 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Of course, he's not an idiot, He's just a Charlottan.

0:35:16.239 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 1>So we have measles. We have a trade war. China

0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>just said they're ready to go to war with us

0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:22.800
<v Speaker 1>on trade.

0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 6>Yeah bye, I like that. China was giving us options.

0:35:25.280 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 6>So like, whichever type of war you would like, we

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:27.800
<v Speaker 6>are ready.

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

0:35:28.680 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 1>We have Trump tweeting about moss, because why wouldn't he.

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:36.960
<v Speaker 1>It strikes me that we are hurtling towards a number

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:42.400
<v Speaker 1>of bad outcomes, none of which are necessary discuss.

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.399
<v Speaker 6>Well, I look, this is did by design. Okay, it's

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.320
<v Speaker 6>by design. It's always been by design, and Steve Vannon

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 6>has talked about this a lot to flood, the zone, overload,

0:35:51.160 --> 0:35:52.239
<v Speaker 6>create chaos.

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 6>I mean, yesterday the market goes down six hundred points,

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.279
<v Speaker 6>today it goes up five hundred points, born or eighty

0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.880
<v Speaker 6>five points, whatever it is. This is the chaos they're creating.

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:02.960
<v Speaker 6>Canada is gonna become the fifty first state. Governor Trudeau,

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:07.279
<v Speaker 6>We're getting greenland. We need greenland, Panama Canal Gaza is

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:09.800
<v Speaker 6>gonna be the Riviera. You're gonna bring your whole family

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 6>to Gaza, Disney Gaza. This is the whole thing you

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 6>know that we're doing. Oh, we're putting on tariffs, a

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 6>little bit of pain. Oh, but today we're taking off

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:20.840
<v Speaker 6>auto tariffs because you know, the auto manufacturers weren't happy,

0:36:21.080 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 6>and let's create all this chaos. And while we're doing that,

0:36:23.640 --> 0:36:26.200
<v Speaker 6>we're doing other things that no one's talking about. And

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:29.360
<v Speaker 6>that's why, you know, and some people disagree with me,

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:32.720
<v Speaker 6>but that's why I've just operated that we can't always

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 6>be at a ten like, we can't always be at

0:36:35.560 --> 0:36:38.920
<v Speaker 6>a ten like I can't be constantly outraged every hour

0:36:39.040 --> 0:36:41.880
<v Speaker 6>of the day. I need to figure out levels of outrage. Okay,

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:44.239
<v Speaker 6>this is a seven, this is an eight, this is

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:47.440
<v Speaker 6>a ten. Everything can't be a constitutional crisis. If you

0:36:47.520 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 6>disregard the Supreme Court, that's a constitutional crisis. If you

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:54.480
<v Speaker 6>disregard a lower court, we appeal. And so I know

0:36:54.520 --> 0:36:57.120
<v Speaker 6>everyone's to be like, no, this needs to be all

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 6>hands on deck all the time, screaming, yelling, going crazy.

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 6>And I'm going to tell you that's not going to

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 6>work in a messaging communications war, which is what we

0:37:06.520 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 6>are in. We are in a messaging communications war. And

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.279
<v Speaker 6>if you don't think that's true, just look at last night.

0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:14.879
<v Speaker 6>Who won that messaging war?

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Who won that messaging war?

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:19.280
<v Speaker 6>He did? He won that messaging war last night.

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>And tell me why and how?

0:37:21.080 --> 0:37:24.080
<v Speaker 6>Because he had the microphone. If it's tough to battle

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:28.320
<v Speaker 6>with a person who literally has the microphone when you don't,

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 6>and when he's putting people up there that have childhood

0:37:32.239 --> 0:37:34.799
<v Speaker 6>cancer and who have buried children.

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>I just have a question about the childhood cancer for

0:37:37.680 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 1>a minute. So that poor kid TJ has cancer, but

0:37:43.640 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>they have frozen ANIH funding that funds childhood cancer research.

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:51.279
<v Speaker 6>Oh my god, you're one hundred percent right, Molly. But

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 6>here's a question to you. Do you think the proper

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 6>thing then would have been to stand and clap for

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.399
<v Speaker 6>DJ and then immediately sit down and put out an

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 6>X out of press release, go to the cameras and say,

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 6>we pray for DJ, but Donald Trump took away funding

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 6>to try to cure what DJ has in other people. Yes,

0:38:09.960 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 6>that's how I think we should have handled it. I

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:11.879
<v Speaker 6>think you're right.

0:38:12.080 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Because the thing is, if we learned anything from

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four, it's that if you don't respond to

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:21.440
<v Speaker 1>every lie, if you don't flood the zone with facts,

0:38:21.760 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 1>after you know, the zone is flooded with shit. Unfortunately

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.600
<v Speaker 1>for you guys, there is no mainstream media, so you

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:29.960
<v Speaker 1>have to go in there and be like, this kid

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:34.120
<v Speaker 1>has cancer. It's terrible. Wouldn't it be good if we

0:38:34.120 --> 0:38:38.680
<v Speaker 1>were focused on medical research and not cutting medical research

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:42.960
<v Speaker 1>By the way, he got it from being exposed to chemicals,

0:38:43.320 --> 0:38:47.839
<v Speaker 1>chemicals that Donald Trump is bragging about cutting regulation of.

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.280
<v Speaker 2>No, I agree, there's going to be more tjs.

0:38:51.440 --> 0:38:54.680
<v Speaker 6>Yeah. When I talk about who won the messaging war yesterday,

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 6>this is a good example. Yes, correct the reason why

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.400
<v Speaker 6>this is a key point, and not everyone has to

0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 6>agree with me. I'm not the most progressive member, but

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.279
<v Speaker 6>I do understand messaging and the reason this is a

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:10.840
<v Speaker 6>key point is because we are in the minority in

0:39:10.880 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 6>the House, and we have weakened the minorities power in

0:39:14.560 --> 0:39:17.600
<v Speaker 6>the House over years. We've weakened the House in general,

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 6>Congress over a period of years, and so a lot

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 6>of people are looking at Democrats saying, do more, do more,

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:28.640
<v Speaker 6>do something. There isn't much we can do in Congress, right.

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:31.040
<v Speaker 6>We can file bills, they don't get heard. We can

0:39:31.080 --> 0:39:34.879
<v Speaker 6>file amendments, they don't get heard. Okay. What we have

0:39:35.280 --> 0:39:37.440
<v Speaker 6>is we have the TV cameras, we have the Internet,

0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.320
<v Speaker 6>we have social media, we have podcasts. We can message

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:43.120
<v Speaker 6>on bills on the floor, we can message on bills

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:46.480
<v Speaker 6>in committee. We can talk to the American people, and

0:39:46.520 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 6>we have to out communicate them, and we have to

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 6>be smarter on how we do that. That is what

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:53.839
<v Speaker 6>we have. We can organize in the streets. But as

0:39:53.840 --> 0:39:56.320
<v Speaker 6>far as what we can do within the chamber, okay,

0:39:56.880 --> 0:40:00.560
<v Speaker 6>there is almost no power at all for us to

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:05.560
<v Speaker 6>do anything. And so messaging, messaging, messaging, messaging. There is

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 6>low hanging fruit here. The Republicans are firing veterans, right,

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:13.359
<v Speaker 6>that's low hanging fruit. The price of eggs is more

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 6>now than it was during Joe Biden I thought we

0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:18.240
<v Speaker 6>were fixing that on day one, low hanging fruit inflation.

0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 6>We're gonna fix that on day one, low hanging fruit,

0:40:21.200 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 6>the tariffs which are gonna make goods more expensive for Americans,

0:40:24.880 --> 0:40:28.640
<v Speaker 6>low hanging fruit, over and over and over again. We

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 6>should be talking about it.

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yes, I just don't understand why you guys aren't.

0:40:33.520 --> 0:40:37.080
<v Speaker 6>I think right now we're caught up in this idea

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:41.400
<v Speaker 6>that we're hearing from our constituents and from activists of like,

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:45.000
<v Speaker 6>you do more, do more, right, And so this idea

0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:48.759
<v Speaker 6>of doing more doesn't mean what we're doing is smart.

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Right, But I do think more. I mean, this is

0:40:52.360 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>like the fundamental problem here right. One of the things

0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 1>that I'm struck by when I talk to Democrats in

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:00.359
<v Speaker 1>Congress is that there's a lot of feeling like, oh,

0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:03.520
<v Speaker 1>we have to get this message right, and I don't

0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:05.799
<v Speaker 1>think you do. I just think you need to get

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:08.279
<v Speaker 1>it out. Look, you're never going to be Trump, right.

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 1>The rules of political gravity do not apply to Donald

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Trump for whatever reason.

0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:14.279
<v Speaker 6>And he's got the bully pulpit and he knows how

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 6>to use it.

0:41:15.040 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Yes, for sure. But here's the thing.

0:41:18.080 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 1>I believe that there is a sort of sense in

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:25.160
<v Speaker 1>which we have. Yes, he has the billy pulpit, Yes

0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:29.240
<v Speaker 1>he knows how to use it. But also he works

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:34.160
<v Speaker 1>incredibly hard to like he works the media. He's constantly

0:41:34.200 --> 0:41:38.239
<v Speaker 1>talking to media, He's constantly letting media in. Meanwhile, democrats

0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:42.280
<v Speaker 1>are like so worried about is the message the right message?

0:41:42.480 --> 0:41:45.359
<v Speaker 1>Are we saying the right thing? What if democrats just

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:49.240
<v Speaker 1>talk and just go out there and do one hundred interviews?

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 1>Like do they need to be quite as controlled and

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:57.320
<v Speaker 1>fearful as they are? Like should Al Green have screamed

0:41:57.320 --> 0:41:57.919
<v Speaker 1>at that thing?

0:41:58.160 --> 0:41:58.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Al Green's tried to impeach Trump like fifteen times, but

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:05.200
<v Speaker 1>the reality is like he did it, and I actually

0:42:05.239 --> 0:42:07.880
<v Speaker 1>think more is probably a little bit better.

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:11.279
<v Speaker 6>The strategy you're highlighting I agree with, right, which is

0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 6>we can't be afraid to communicate because we might make

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 6>a mistake. Lord knows, I've had to delete some tweets

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 6>over time, okay, And so we can't be afraid to communicate,

0:42:21.360 --> 0:42:23.360
<v Speaker 6>So we can't be in our bubble. We can't only

0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:25.960
<v Speaker 6>talk to friendly media. Also, right, we got to go out,

0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 6>We got to communicate over and over and over and

0:42:28.200 --> 0:42:30.799
<v Speaker 6>over again, and we got to try different messages, throw

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:32.839
<v Speaker 6>things at the wall, figure out what sticks. That's what

0:42:32.880 --> 0:42:35.840
<v Speaker 6>they do, right, cry all of these things. I totally

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:39.480
<v Speaker 6>agree with that, But we also shouldn't make it easy

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 6>for them when we try to do something for them

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:45.000
<v Speaker 6>to just you know, give them a gift. And I

0:42:45.040 --> 0:42:48.120
<v Speaker 6>think there were some instances yesterday where we gave them gifts.

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:49.360
<v Speaker 2>What are you thinking about?

0:42:49.680 --> 0:42:52.280
<v Speaker 6>Well again, I just I think that, you know, forget

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 6>what individual members did. I think we should have separated

0:42:56.320 --> 0:42:58.320
<v Speaker 6>Donald Trump from his guests.

0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>And explained the ways in which Trump is going to

0:43:01.200 --> 0:43:03.840
<v Speaker 1>hurt these people. I mean that, I just don't understand

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:05.839
<v Speaker 1>how you don't thread the needle on that, Like he's

0:43:05.960 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 1>advertising people who's actively hurt.

0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:11.160
<v Speaker 6>We gave them a gift. Here was the message. The

0:43:11.200 --> 0:43:14.560
<v Speaker 6>message was Democrats are so out of touch they couldn't

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:18.120
<v Speaker 6>even stand for a kid with cancer, right, Okay, that

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:19.360
<v Speaker 6>was a gift, sure.

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:21.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think more of the question is like,

0:43:22.320 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 1>why is there not more research going to cancer funding?

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 1>Why is Elon Musk holding the federal government hostage?

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>How is that? Okay?

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.480
<v Speaker 6>All the one hundred percent and so members that are

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:36.600
<v Speaker 6>going out there today talking about it, Okay, they're talking

0:43:36.600 --> 0:43:38.440
<v Speaker 6>about it. I'm talking about it, they're talking about it.

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 6>We're out there saying they're cutting cancer research. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>my dad died of pancreatic cancer. The issue now is

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<v Speaker 6>you say that and the first thing they say is

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<v Speaker 6>did you stand for the kid with cancer?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>We can say this is silly standing or not standing,

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<v Speaker 6>but you know, look, I'm a parent, I'm a parent.

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<v Speaker 6>A lot of us are parents, and there are some

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<v Speaker 6>things that cut through. There are times where I don't

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<v Speaker 6>hear from some of my friends for a while. They're

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<v Speaker 6>not really political. When I hear from them, I know

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<v Speaker 6>a message broke through, right, and I heard from them

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<v Speaker 6>on the Hey, how come they didn't stand for that?

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<v Speaker 6>With that for that kid? And so we can think

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<v Speaker 6>this is all silly.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, but if it's getting through, it's getting through out.

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<v Speaker 6>But if it's getting through, it's getting through. My opinion

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<v Speaker 6>of it is irrelevant. That got through. It just made us.

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<v Speaker 6>We are not out of touch, right. We are the

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<v Speaker 6>party who cares about that. Okay. We are the party

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<v Speaker 6>that cares about the working people, cares about the federal worker,

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<v Speaker 6>cares about government, cares about social Security, Medicaid, Medicare. We

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<v Speaker 6>are the party yet they are constantly being able to

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<v Speaker 6>show we're out of touch because we're making it easy

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<v Speaker 6>for them. Molly, that's all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's there better than Democrats. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's ease better, right, I mean, obviously Republicans or not.

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<v Speaker 6>They're better at messaging because he sets the message, they amplify, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, and he's much better a performance, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where we are. But he's also not bound to the truth. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine a Democrat being like, we're cutting cancer funding. Clap

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<v Speaker 1>for the cancer kids.

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<v Speaker 2>You monster.

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<v Speaker 6>If Donald Trump, from the microphone yesterday had said, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>everyone stand for DJ we're making you a secret service agent.

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<v Speaker 6>We're standing, and then Donald Trump said, and we're cutting

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<v Speaker 6>cancer funding. Okay, his members they would have stayed clapping. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>but this is not news. We know that this was

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<v Speaker 6>like it was like this in the first term. It's

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<v Speaker 6>even worse in the second term. It's not news. So, yes,

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<v Speaker 6>the rules don't apply to him. Yes, you know, he

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<v Speaker 6>can get away with stuff other people can't get away with. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>but know that know that work around it, figure out

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<v Speaker 6>how we communicate. So anyways, we don't have to Harbor

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<v Speaker 6>on that very interesting. Thank you, Jared Moscow it no

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<v Speaker 6>no moment, Jesse Cannon.

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<v Speaker 4>Smile, jun Fast.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, you know, when you're running around

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<v Speaker 3>with a chainsaw cutting everything, just smashed everything and seeing

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<v Speaker 3>what sticks, sometimes you smash very stupid, stupid, stupid things.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it gay to have the last name Gay? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you gay if you have the last name Gay?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think so. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Congratulations to all who celebrate, we have hit peak stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what happened a guy named Aola Gay. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna be shocked to hear this, but having the

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<v Speaker 1>last name Gay does not, in fact make you gay.

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<v Speaker 1>This photograph of a person named Aenola Gay a B

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine bomber that dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima,

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<v Speaker 1>so he named his plane the Anola Gay after his mother.

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<v Speaker 1>The photograph of the Anola Gay was flagged for being gay.

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