Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,
Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines, and Fox News'
Speaker 1: own Brian Kilmead says Putin is a bad guy, which
Speaker 1: for some reason he needs to say.
Speaker 2: We have such a great show for you today.
Speaker 1: Ziteo's own Maddi Hassan stops by to talk about Trump's
Speaker 1: promises to the American people and his current presidency. Then
Speaker 1: we'll talk to Congressman Jared Moskowitz about his long feud
Speaker 1: with Congressman James Comer. But first the news.
Speaker 3: So my Elon musk Stoge has been sued after using
Speaker 3: US marshals to take over the US African Development Foundation.
Speaker 1: I think the interesting data point here is that the
Speaker 1: head of the US African Development Foundation is actually a
Speaker 1: conservative Republican. So the current chair Ward Woke Ward as
Speaker 1: we call him, by the way, I just want to
Speaker 1: point out this administration is so crazy. Here's Ward Bream.
Speaker 1: He is a Massachusetts based businessman. I just want to
Speaker 1: have two seconds here. He has a photo with George W. Bush,
Speaker 1: you know, famous leb w. He gave the keynote address
Speaker 1: at the National Prayer Breakfast in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: You're going to be shocked to hear this. But this
Speaker 1: guy ate no lib. Does it need to be said,
Speaker 1: if you give the keynote address to the National Prayer Breakfast,
Speaker 1: you're probably not going to be a liberal. He was
Speaker 1: the named the us ADF President. This is like yet
Speaker 1: again another case of just mind blowing stupidity.
Speaker 2: So he wrote a letter that.
Speaker 1: States, in my absence, I have specifically instructed the staff
Speaker 1: to adhere to our roles and procedures and not allow
Speaker 1: any type of this kind of meeting without my presence.
Speaker 1: I look forward to working. So let me just point
Speaker 1: out these guys did not let the young DOGE employees in.
Speaker 1: They did not let them go into the computers. Again,
Speaker 1: remember these DOGE employees ranged from Big Balls you'll remember
Speaker 1: Big Balls, to the guy who got fired for racism
Speaker 1: but then rehired because racism should not be disqualifying in
Speaker 1: DOGE because if it were, hahaha. This is all about
Speaker 1: trying to disrupt, trying to cut off aid, trying to
Speaker 1: neoter the federal government, make it not work, make everyone afraid,
Speaker 1: and that's what they're doing. So Elon is going to
Speaker 1: be met with a lot of lawsuits, just like he
Speaker 1: was a Twitter. I mean, in some ways, watching him
Speaker 1: do this in federal government, it's a little bit. He
Speaker 1: just is exactly using the same playbook he did in Twitter.
Speaker 1: You know, remember in Twitter when he showed up with
Speaker 1: the same let that sink in You know, we saw
Speaker 1: him on the floor of seapack with a chainsaw saying.
Speaker 2: I am meme. I have become meme. You know.
Speaker 1: It's low comedy followed by corporate malfeasans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it really is hilarious because anyone who's ever
Speaker 3: met people who work in these agencies knows that these
Speaker 3: people are largely very conservative people. Them pretending that these
Speaker 3: are all woke liberals who are like marching in BLM
Speaker 3: Plaza is the one of the most silly things I've
Speaker 3: ever heard.
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.
Speaker 3: So, speaking of very silly things, MAGA is very concerned
Speaker 3: that Justice Amy Tony Barrett is now Justice David Suitor
Speaker 3: part two and has gone woke.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I want to point this out.
Speaker 1: When someone does something that displeases MAGA, it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: what it is.
Speaker 2: If you step out of line at all, you get.
Speaker 1: The hail of hate and threats if you are one
Speaker 1: of their people and you step out of line, you
Speaker 1: get it ten times more. So, for example, there's a
Speaker 1: reason that MAGA hates Bill Crystal. There's a reason that
Speaker 1: Trump is like tweeting about Bill Crystal. It's because they
Speaker 1: think these are their people. I mean, not anymore obviously,
Speaker 1: but there's a reason that MAGA turned on someone like,
Speaker 1: you know, the people who they consider to be their people.
Speaker 2: There's a reason that Trump.
Speaker 1: Hates John Bolton so much, right, because he dared to criticize,
Speaker 1: to not deliver, to not sign off on the most
Speaker 1: craven of Trump's orders. And so here we go, Amy
Speaker 1: Coney Barrett. She was unwilling to vote for some of
Speaker 1: the more craven Trump ideas. There were two different rulings
Speaker 1: that Trump World.
Speaker 2: Did not like.
Speaker 1: One was they were mad that she's one of the
Speaker 1: only checks on the administration's efforts to freeze federal spending.
Speaker 1: So she had ruled against Trump in these efforts. So
Speaker 1: now Musk posted the only way to restore rule of
Speaker 1: law to the people in America is to impeach judges, right,
Speaker 1: because of course, so look, you know they want her
Speaker 1: to just sign off on whatever it is they want
Speaker 1: to do in Trump World, And so she is going
Speaker 1: to catch a lot of ir She did, remember overturned
Speaker 1: Roby Wade, so there's quite a lot of reason to
Speaker 1: think she ain't no lib. But the Trump world's angry
Speaker 1: influencers are furious. DEI judge influencer Jack Pasobiac posted on
Speaker 1: ex diversity, Equity and inclusion higher as opposed to DUI,
Speaker 1: which is more of Trump's administrations.
Speaker 4: To say Mike Johnson's staff.
Speaker 1: Yes, Amy was a DEI appointee, said Laura Lumer, who
Speaker 1: is always trying to get back and probably by the
Speaker 1: end of this admin will be Trump's chief of staff.
Speaker 2: Again. They're very mad.
Speaker 1: You know, you can never make these people happy because
Speaker 1: they really are so completely you know, they just demand
Speaker 1: complete and utter Fieldy.
Speaker 3: Yep, speaking of Fielty, What are the funniest things to
Speaker 3: watch on Keeople news these days? Is everyone trying to
Speaker 3: justify these stupid tariffs. Trump's best buddy, Elon Musk, is
Speaker 3: now one hundred and eleven billion dollars from them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one bright spot here is that Elon
Speaker 1: Musk is destroying his wealth for some reason. It turns
Speaker 1: out that destroying the federal government does not make you popular.
Speaker 1: Basically Elon Musk on Wednesday the world's richest man, with
Speaker 1: his pockets one hundred and ten billion dollars lighter than
Speaker 1: his peak networth of four hundred and sixty four billion.
Speaker 1: Here's what happened. Elon Musk and Donald Trump have made
Speaker 1: the stock market plummet because of two things likely. I
Speaker 1: mean again, you know, there's a lot of factors, but
Speaker 1: the two biggest factors are the incredible instability of watching
Speaker 1: someone take a chainsaw to the federal government and then
Speaker 1: the incredible instability of tariffing our closest neighbors and allies.
Speaker 1: Tesla stock, which makes up a lot of Elon Musk's
Speaker 1: enormous wells, took a hit from this market downturn. Musk
Speaker 1: lost a billion dollars in one day, one point five
Speaker 1: billion dollars. Here's the thing you have throughout the country
Speaker 1: and throughout the world, people burning down Tesla showrooms. By
Speaker 1: the way, no one should be doing anything violent, but
Speaker 1: we're seeing that. We're seeing a groundswell of rage at
Speaker 1: the richest man in the world. And also he is
Speaker 1: losing money as it's going, which is you know, one
Speaker 1: of the things that happens when you do that. I
Speaker 1: think it's important to remember that he's also doing SpaceX
Speaker 1: recently had some interplanetary trash raining down from the sky
Speaker 1: in Florida. Again, you would think there would be some
Speaker 1: legal would be some legal recourse.
Speaker 2: Yes for that.
Speaker 1: Maddie Hassan is the founder and editor of chief of Ziteo.
Speaker 2: Welcome to I don't know. Have you been on? Have
Speaker 2: you not been on? It doesn't matter. Hi, Maddie, I've
Speaker 2: been on this show. I know.
Speaker 4: Was I not forgettable by medical.
Speaker 1: Well, it's because honestly, you were a fancy cable news
Speaker 1: host and I had to go through PR That's true.
Speaker 4: Now I'm a non fancy formal cable well as.
Speaker 1: Someone who is not a host of anything but her
Speaker 1: own home. I host my canine friends in my own house.
Speaker 2: When I do.
Speaker 4: Something to be proud of exactly, can we just talk.
Speaker 1: We're the United States of Amnesia. We know nothing, we
Speaker 1: remember nothing, we learned nothing, discuss.
Speaker 4: We have the memory of goldfish.
Speaker 5: We memory hold everything, and therefore we at shot, surprised,
Speaker 5: credulous when Donald Trump does things either a he told
Speaker 5: us he would do or be did before.
Speaker 4: So, yes, we are in.
Speaker 5: This mess because people don't remember shit in this country.
Speaker 5: America in general has a lot of problems because we
Speaker 5: don't remember anything from our history or anyone else's history.
Speaker 5: And now Donald Trump has obviously weaponized that for his advantage,
Speaker 5: to the point where he said in a press conference
Speaker 5: with Kirs Starmer last week, did I say Zelenski was
Speaker 5: a dictator?
Speaker 4: And it's kind of like, I'm sure there.
Speaker 6: Are many of ems.
Speaker 4: Y did he say that? I'm sure he had a
Speaker 4: receptive audience of people, like maybe he didn't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm telling you my favorite was I'm old
Speaker 1: enough to remember nine to eleven. And Trump was amusing
Speaker 1: in the office that Europe never came to our aid.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, America went to war. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you know about this. I feel like you may not.
Speaker 1: In numerous countries had nothing to do with Saudi Arabia,
Speaker 1: right done under that right, stunned because we were mad
Speaker 1: about terrorism. And look as someone who smelled the smoke
Speaker 1: and flew over the ashes, like I get it, man,
Speaker 1: but also like NATO has actually worked out pretty well
Speaker 1: for America.
Speaker 4: Oh very well.
Speaker 5: All of the post war international architecture was basically constructed
Speaker 5: to boost American primacies.
Speaker 4: There's a great irony.
Speaker 5: While some of us on the left, you know, have
Speaker 5: had our criticisms of NATO, had our criticisms of view
Speaker 5: n security.
Speaker 2: Care Chatrian Act.
Speaker 5: My point being, like even the liberal international architecture that
Speaker 5: now the Republicans want to tear down. Elon Musk is
Speaker 5: talking openly about withdrawing not just from NATO, but insanely
Speaker 5: from the United Nations. All of that has been a
Speaker 5: great benefit to the United States and its role in
Speaker 5: the world as the sole superpower post Cold War. And
Speaker 5: it's interesting that he's tearing this down because it makes
Speaker 5: people ask questions whose interest is in It's clearly not
Speaker 5: in the US Empire's interest. It might be in Donald
Speaker 5: Trump's personal financial interest.
Speaker 4: It might align with his.
Speaker 5: View of the world, where the world is just a
Speaker 5: kind of group of warring autocrats and he's just one
Speaker 5: amongst many, alongside Shi Jinping and Vladimir Putin and the
Speaker 5: rest of them.
Speaker 4: That's how he sees the world.
Speaker 5: And by the way, on the memory front, there's a
Speaker 5: bunch of Americans who can't remember stuff, and then there
Speaker 5: are a bunch of Americans who are just ignorant of history.
Speaker 5: And Donald Trump is obviously in that second group. He
Speaker 5: just doesn't know anything. Remember when he went to the
Speaker 5: grave the cemetery with John Kelly and said, you.
Speaker 4: Know which side were we on in in the World Wars.
Speaker 5: In fact, he said in the Oval Office just this
Speaker 5: past week, Molly, why does.
Speaker 4: Japan not have to defend us? And we have to
Speaker 4: defend them.
Speaker 5: Because we freaking run their constitution that way them in
Speaker 5: a horrible world war and said you need to be
Speaker 5: pacifist and we'll guarantee your security.
Speaker 4: And Trump's like, why did we do that? Who did?
Speaker 2: My favorite is USA?
Speaker 1: Because it was like they were like, we must staff
Speaker 1: USA it And I'm like, isn't that just a front
Speaker 1: for the CIA?
Speaker 2: Hasn't that always just been a front for the CIA?
Speaker 5: But that's what's so funny is that some on the
Speaker 5: far left and some of the far right and be like, yeah,
Speaker 5: goodwinness to USACA. And I'm like, yeah, USA, I did
Speaker 5: did some horrible stuff in terms of foreign governments pushing
Speaker 5: American propaganda, but it also saved a bunch of babies
Speaker 5: lives who are now going to die because Donald Trump
Speaker 5: has basically gutted this department and what should have been
Speaker 5: a bigger story was the former Acting Assistant Administrative USID
Speaker 5: who published a memo to his superiors was then put
Speaker 5: on leave. The New York Times and other outlets got
Speaker 5: the memo, and it's stunning. It talks about your quarter,
Speaker 5: I think, quarter of a million kids getting polio. It
Speaker 5: talks about how many people are going to die from
Speaker 5: malaria and HIV.
Speaker 4: It's horrific.
Speaker 5: It's just it's mad Max predictions, and this should be
Speaker 5: the biggest story in the US, but it's not.
Speaker 1: In MAGA world's defense, American children are also getting measles.
Speaker 5: So yes, all the children can suffer together before we
Speaker 5: send them down the mines, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, there is a sort of call back to
Speaker 1: Victorian America that is meant to be nonpartisan.
Speaker 5: When they say make America great again, I always say, well,
Speaker 5: what date.
Speaker 4: What year you want to go back to? Though it
Speaker 4: was great?
Speaker 5: Really, we're getting more and more intel here from there.
Speaker 5: It's not nineteen fifties. It's more like eighteen fifties.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I think is the most
Speaker 1: impressive about where we are right now is that the
Speaker 1: federal government well not as decimated as it will be
Speaker 1: if this administration ever ends, it's still pretty fucking decimated.
Speaker 1: We know there are measles right now in Texas, New Mexico,
Speaker 1: and Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: What we don't know is.
Speaker 1: Whether or not there are measles in everywhere else. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty convinced that measles are going to be the next
Speaker 1: thing we're going to have to fucking deal with because
Speaker 1: it's wildly contagious and we don't have the vaccination numbers
Speaker 1: to get us where we need to be to prevent
Speaker 1: another pandemic.
Speaker 4: I mean, get in line measles with bird flip. In
Speaker 4: terms of what's coming back, you saw a couple of things,
Speaker 4: I would say.
Speaker 5: One is you saw Donald Trump literally push the autism
Speaker 5: bullshit in his fake State of the Union in his
Speaker 5: addressed to Congress. That might I mean, I don't know
Speaker 5: how many people have pointed this out, and maybe I'm
Speaker 5: wrong here, but surely, surely that is the most the
Speaker 5: singular high profile platform that an anti vaccination talking point
Speaker 5: has reached in modern world history. The President of the
Speaker 5: United States using an official speech to Congress to basically
Speaker 5: push this idea that vaccinations are causing orders. He didn't
Speaker 5: say very cleverly said we don't know why the rates
Speaker 5: are going up. We do know why the rates are
Speaker 5: going up because of better information, better awareness, but clearly
Speaker 5: not to do with the vaccine, as every single study
Speaker 5: is shown. But he wanted to push that talking point
Speaker 5: in the RFK junior sitting in the crowd loves. It's
Speaker 5: a deeply dangerous talking point. It will end up killing kids.
Speaker 5: My biggest objection to Donald Trump's return to office was
Speaker 5: the memory holding of the pandemic. Next week, thirteenth of
Speaker 5: March is five years since we went international emergency mode.
Speaker 4: Here we have memory hold the pandemic.
Speaker 5: I had people telling me we survived one Trump term,
Speaker 5: we can survive another.
Speaker 4: Actually, no, four hundred thousand people didn't survive the first
Speaker 4: Trump term.
Speaker 5: About two hundred thousand of them, according to the Lance
Speaker 5: and Medical Journal, could have survived if Donald Trump hadn't
Speaker 5: been president. So he literally oversaw the mass death of
Speaker 5: Americans in his first term. We memory hold a Now,
Speaker 5: God forbid is you say we could see the deaths
Speaker 5: of more children from diseases like measles that are easily
Speaker 5: preventable and were preventable. But here's the worst, worst part
Speaker 5: of it. Here's the real dystopian point. And I don't
Speaker 5: want to leave your listeners hopeless. That this really really
Speaker 5: makes me kind of darkens my mood. Is The evil genius.
Speaker 4: Of Trump and co.
Speaker 5: This time around is that they have found a way,
Speaker 5: unlike every right wing predecessor, to avoid any accountability by
Speaker 5: basically destroying all the methods we have of knowing what
Speaker 5: the fuck is going on. So you say, measle spaces, okay,
Speaker 5: but how do you know there are any measles cases?
Speaker 4: The Department of Health's not counting.
Speaker 5: If a tree falls in a wood and no one's
Speaker 5: around to hear it, does it make a noise?
Speaker 4: If there are lots of meus cases.
Speaker 5: And the Department of Health and the CDC and the
Speaker 5: NAH say there are not or aren't counting, And how
Speaker 5: do we know?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: And every in every aspect of government, he's destroying the
Speaker 5: ability to document and examine whether in the past, whether
Speaker 5: we had a Republican president or democratic president.
Speaker 4: And George W.
Speaker 5: Bush tried to do what Trump did in terms of
Speaker 5: undermining the statistical collection of basic data. They're trying to
Speaker 5: destroy the Weather Service, right, So when climate change carries
Speaker 5: on destroying our country with more natural.
Speaker 4: Disasters, who's going to know, because they won't be an.
Speaker 5: Official count of how many natural disasters there are right now.
Speaker 1: It's not great now. The good news is no, there
Speaker 1: is no good news. What is the good news?
Speaker 5: The good news is that so far, in the short
Speaker 5: period of time he's been president, most people have seen
Speaker 5: through this bullshit, some people in his own base who
Speaker 5: are quickly getting economically.
Speaker 4: Harmed in a way. We didn't realize it would be
Speaker 4: this quick. I knew who's going to harm his own base,
Speaker 4: but I thought it would be a bit slower.
Speaker 5: I think that that kind of move fast and break
Speaker 5: things is costing them popular support.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: You could argue they.
Speaker 5: Don't care about popular support because they have no interest
Speaker 5: in winning free and fair elections in the future. But
Speaker 5: clearly that polling shows he's more unpopular than any president
Speaker 5: at this point in their administration. Two months in, you're
Speaker 5: seeing Muscus super popular. You're seeing Republicans at town halls
Speaker 5: shouting at Republican members of Congress, and they'm now canceling
Speaker 5: all town halls.
Speaker 4: So I think in that sense, people are not that befuddled.
Speaker 5: I think most people outside of the magabase get it
Speaker 5: that this is bull shit. Firing veterans across government is bullshit.
Speaker 5: But how does that translate into actual political costs for him?
Speaker 4: I don't know yet, because this is not a normal
Speaker 4: political party in a normal country. Worried about normal consequences.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I think that's right. I would also add
Speaker 1: that yesterday I was at a dinner and I looked
Speaker 1: at my phone. The woman next to me was giving
Speaker 1: me a hard time about looking at my phone. I
Speaker 1: had like literally had it away for like an hour,
Speaker 1: and then find she was like, you're not supposed to
Speaker 1: do this here, and I was I wanted to like
Speaker 1: punch her, which I know is not how you're supposed
Speaker 1: to act. So I didn't, but I did think to myself.
Speaker 5: Well, the good thing is that woman doesn't go on
Speaker 5: her phone, so she can't hear you saying this.
Speaker 2: Yes, let us pry.
Speaker 1: But the point of this is I looked at my
Speaker 1: phone and there was a that they had closed the
Speaker 1: airports in various parts of Florida because of space dust
Speaker 1: debris coming from a SpaceX launch. Now you'll remember that
Speaker 1: the man who is currently pruning the federal government despite
Speaker 1: having no elected office, is also the man who is
Speaker 1: launching these rockets into space that are closing these airports
Speaker 1: in the state that is governed by Ron DeSantis, who
Speaker 1: is sort of Trump's, one of Trump's sort of mini
Speaker 1: Me's slash rivals.
Speaker 2: Kind of incredible.
Speaker 5: I mean, you're very generous in referring to it as
Speaker 5: pruning the federal governess more like flattering and burning a
Speaker 5: federal government. Yeah, Rondi Santis is a pathetic figure who
Speaker 5: is even more pathetic than he was when he ran
Speaker 5: in the primaries and then pulled out like he's like
Speaker 5: Roonder Sanders was the white knight of the Republican Party
Speaker 5: who was going to save them from Trump. Some of
Speaker 5: us said at the time that was bullshit. The man
Speaker 5: has a glass jaw, he's got the of a chair,
Speaker 5: and he you know, he crashed and burned very quickly.
Speaker 5: Donald Trump mocked him and said that he grew fingers.
Speaker 5: I mean, Donald Trump suggested that Roondes Sanders was secretly gay.
Speaker 5: He suggested that Rondes Sanders was cheating on his wife.
Speaker 5: He suggested that Ronder Sanders had groomed high school girls
Speaker 5: when he was a history teacher. And Sanders just took
Speaker 5: it all and endorsed Trump for president. I don't know,
Speaker 5: if you saw Megan McCain this week, Molly saying thank
Speaker 5: you Donald Trump for something he said in his beach
Speaker 5: that she liked, and you know, you have to think
Speaker 5: about Meghan McCain and Meghan Kelly, and Ron De Santis
Speaker 5: and Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio publicly humiliated, but you
Speaker 5: have to think about who are up against it. These
Speaker 5: people have no spines, they have no shame. They have
Speaker 5: been publicly humiliated and beaten down either directly or indirectly
Speaker 5: Viya their families by Donald Trump, and yet they are
Speaker 5: part of his praetorian guard.
Speaker 4: Right now. They are his strongest defenders.
Speaker 5: Marco Rubio is going out in the media and defending
Speaker 5: his Russia policy, even though Marko Rubia does not believe
Speaker 5: in his Russian policy even one percent.
Speaker 4: Marko Rubia spent the past ten.
Speaker 5: Years being a hawk on Russia, warning against any appeasement
Speaker 5: with Putin, saying we have to stand with Ukraine, et cetera,
Speaker 5: et cetera. And now he is the face of the
Speaker 5: Donald Trump administration's complete pivot to being as pro Russian
Speaker 5: as possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's true, but I do think it is
Speaker 1: interesting to watch Elon Musk learn how to do government in.
Speaker 2: Real time, or not learn how to do government right
Speaker 2: like we saw him in the Oval.
Speaker 1: Say he had fire the ebol of people, but then
Speaker 1: he had rehired the Ebola people. But it turns out
Speaker 1: in fact he had neither right. He had fired them
Speaker 1: and not rehired them.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 5: And he fired the nuclear weapons protection people then tried
Speaker 5: to rehidd them.
Speaker 2: Those people he did rehire.
Speaker 4: I think he fired the bird.
Speaker 5: Flu people and then tried to rehire the bird flew people. Oh,
Speaker 5: the veterans are fair hotline where they fired the people
Speaker 5: who manned the hotline and then tried to hire them back.
Speaker 4: And I don't believe they have done so yet.
Speaker 1: Wow, those veterans, I mean, why do veterans need any help?
Speaker 4: They're fine fine. I mean Donald Trump's a veteran. Oh
Speaker 4: no he's not.
Speaker 2: No he's not certainly not.
Speaker 4: So El Musk is a veteran. Oh no he's not.
Speaker 6: So.
Speaker 5: Look this guy, I just find it ironic. I was
Speaker 5: talking to Paul Krugman yesterday and I said.
Speaker 4: You're an economist. You've written about the economy for years.
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen you?
Speaker 5: We talked about oligarchy and abstract and like academic texts.
Speaker 5: Have you actually seen oligarchy in practice? The world's richest
Speaker 5: man is in charge of basically dismantling the elected government
Speaker 5: in the name of fighting an unelected bureaucracy. He's not elected,
Speaker 5: he's not vetted, he's not Senate confirmed.
Speaker 4: And the best part of it is, at the same.
Speaker 5: Time as they're doing all of this, he's also getting
Speaker 5: new government contracts to add to his previous government contracts.
Speaker 4: The hypocrisy is out there in plain sight.
Speaker 5: And the even better part of it is CNN we
Speaker 5: reporting this week that Republican lawmakers are asking Elon Musk
Speaker 5: can they please have a vote on dose cuts?
Speaker 4: Please?
Speaker 2: That is amazing?
Speaker 4: Could we vote on something I want to.
Speaker 2: Just talk about a second. So here we have Congress.
Speaker 1: Giving up all of their power, right, all of their power,
Speaker 1: not just in the executive branch, to a random dude.
Speaker 2: Well he's a very rich random dude. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: What I think is so amazing is there been so
Speaker 1: many wealthy people for so long who have been considered
Speaker 1: to be boogeyman of the left or the right. The
Speaker 1: Koch Brothers, George Soros, this guy just wanders in. He
Speaker 1: doesn't even go here, right, he has three different you know,
Speaker 1: he's Canadian South African Americans, who's three different passports. So
Speaker 1: he doesn't even have really any skin in the game here,
Speaker 1: and he goes in, he gives Donald Trump a lot
Speaker 1: of money, and then he gets to run the government
Speaker 1: and really destroy it.
Speaker 5: The push back on is he clearly has very financial
Speaker 5: skin in the game. The guy made his fortune here
Speaker 5: at The Washington Post reports that he oversee.
Speaker 2: With subsidies with governments.
Speaker 5: Before we even get to the subsidies, the Washington Post
Speaker 5: reports that he may have violated his visa in terms
Speaker 5: of illegally working here when he shouldn't have been working here,
Speaker 5: which is great because he's the champion against illegal immigration,
Speaker 5: he's the champion against government waste and overspending. And yet,
Speaker 5: according to the Post, thirty eight billion dollars he's made
Speaker 5: in contracts and subsidies and tax credits over the last
Speaker 5: couple of decades. He wouldn't be the richest man in
Speaker 5: the world today were it not for the support at
Speaker 5: certain points of the federal government, not just the federal government,
Speaker 5: Democratic Party administrations. Barack Obama saved Tesla after the financial
Speaker 5: crisis in two thousand and.
Speaker 2: Nine, probably a mistake. Looking back on it, that probably
Speaker 2: was a mistake.
Speaker 5: I think many things the Democrats did visa vi Elon
Speaker 5: Musk was a mistake. Funny though, because some people and
Speaker 5: rocannor who's a congressman, I like a lot who's Silicon
Speaker 5: Valley congressman?
Speaker 4: He pushed this art which I think is nonsense. And
Speaker 4: I've said this to Roe's face.
Speaker 2: Well, he does represent that district.
Speaker 4: And he says Democrats.
Speaker 5: A lot of people pushed the argument Democrats were mean
Speaker 5: to a Musk. They pushed him into the arms of
Speaker 5: the Republican. First of all, he's a grown ass fan.
Speaker 5: He has to take responsibility for his own decisions. To
Speaker 5: amplify Nazis on his website, no one forced him to
Speaker 5: do that. But number two Democrats actually soft on Musk.
Speaker 4: I would take the exact opposite view.
Speaker 5: Obama saved Musk back when Musk was pretending to be
Speaker 5: Tony Stark. This great, I'm going to get us Tamar's guy.
Speaker 5: And then even after he goes full right wing, they
Speaker 5: just led him by Twitter. Did you notice that they
Speaker 5: put no impediments, no sand in the wheels, twenty twenty
Speaker 5: two Biden administration, Democrats in control of Congress. They just
Speaker 5: let him buy Twitter. I give you this example. If
Speaker 5: tomorrow George Soros was about to buy Fox, do you
Speaker 5: think the Republican body would sit quietly and say, yeah,
Speaker 5: sure you can buy it. They wouldn't haul him in
Speaker 5: front of the sec various they would doj They wouldn't
Speaker 5: do everything in their power to stop Soros from buying
Speaker 5: their main communications platform. Democrats did nothing. And then after
Speaker 5: Musk goes full fash, they didn't invite him.
Speaker 4: People forget this.
Speaker 5: Chuck Schumer invited Elon Musk to a meeting in his
Speaker 5: office to discuss the future of AI with a bunch
Speaker 5: of tech bosses while Musk was leading a full right
Speaker 5: wing campaign against the Democratic body. So this is who
Speaker 5: the Democrats are. Unfortunately, this is where I have no hope.
Speaker 5: To go back to your early question, this party does
Speaker 5: not understand the moment we're in. This party does not.
Speaker 4: Know how to fight.
Speaker 5: The leadership is the wrong leadership and needs to go asap.
Speaker 5: Otherwise rules continue to be screwed.
Speaker 2: Yes, I would quibble with certain parts of.
Speaker 4: That which wits the leadership.
Speaker 2: No, I think for sure.
Speaker 1: And this was the thing that got me quite mad
Speaker 1: was that there was a sense in which, you know,
Speaker 1: they campaigned that this is an emergency. Democracy is on
Speaker 1: the ballot, which I actually think is completely true. Let
Speaker 1: me recount a fight that I had with someone who
Speaker 1: I am friendly with, who is a member who voted
Speaker 1: for Jerry Connolly. And I said, really, said, you're going
Speaker 1: to vote for Jerry Connolly as a ranking of oversight
Speaker 1: over AOC who has millions.
Speaker 2: Of people who follow her every move.
Speaker 1: And he said, I O, Jerry, so yes, that kind
Speaker 1: of bringing your stuff to animal to a knife fight.
Speaker 1: We're polite where we operate in the statistico I hate
Speaker 1: and I think is wrong. Dad said, I am not convinced.
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Speaker 1: I think that they need more focused and more aggressive leadership.
Speaker 1: I think that it is possible that hikeim can get there.
Speaker 4: Come on what evidence? Do you know? That?
Speaker 5: This is the man who said Donald Trump's captain chaos,
Speaker 5: which is a joke.
Speaker 2: Well that was really stupid.
Speaker 5: This is the man who, when asked about Eric Adams
Speaker 5: being held hostage by the Trump DOJ, said what's up
Speaker 5: to New York As to decide. This is a man
Speaker 5: who this week, apparently according to Axios, in private, has
Speaker 5: been dressing down Democrats who made noise during the Congressional address, saying,
Speaker 5: you know, we need to respect the office's presidency and
Speaker 5: not act like that.
Speaker 4: Come on, all.
Speaker 2: Right, maybe not? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there are some Democrats in office
Speaker 1: who have been doing a really good job, like Chris Murphy. Right,
Speaker 1: there's one Chris Murphy, Brian Jotts, AOC, Maxwell Frost, Jasmine Crockett,
Speaker 1: and that's it.
Speaker 2: Jamie Raskin.
Speaker 1: No, I mean there are some, but I'm not convinced.
Speaker 1: You have to have the best communicator as the head
Speaker 1: of the party, Necessariah lay. You need to have a
Speaker 1: head of the party who doesn't hold you back, which
Speaker 1: what you're saying is a good point about Jefferies.
Speaker 6: Though I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was a little bit heartened.
Speaker 1: I have been very down on him, and I was
Speaker 1: a little bit hardened that yesterday he did, in fact
Speaker 1: do this little video where he seemed like he was
Speaker 1: starting to take this seriously, taking the challenges more seriously.
Speaker 1: But again, I defer to you on this because you
Speaker 1: seem more passionate.
Speaker 5: That doesn't mean anything. I'm passionate about everything. I'massionate about
Speaker 5: what I'm gonna f Lungelo and fast.
Speaker 4: I'm passionate about that. I have to wait a few
Speaker 4: hours to eat. Well.
Speaker 5: Look, if we can continue pressuring him, maybe he'll.
Speaker 1: Improved, and that is ultimately has to be the goal.
Speaker 1: So anyway, thank you, Maddy. I hope you'll come back.
Speaker 4: Thank you definitely if you'll have me.
Speaker 1: Congressman Jared Moscowitz represents Florida's twenty third district. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to Fast Politics.
Speaker 2: Representative moscow it's what's going on, Mollie. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. Explain to me what's
Speaker 2: going on?
Speaker 6: Hold on, you seem confused.
Speaker 2: What's wrong? I am with that word.
Speaker 1: I am as confused as James Comber reading a book.
Speaker 6: He's angry these days. Have you seen Comber in com
Speaker 6: I mean he's yelling at members, he's throwing them out.
Speaker 2: Why is he angry?
Speaker 6: He won He's angry because he's James Comer. I mean,
Speaker 6: if I was Comber, I'd be pissed.
Speaker 1: Let's sort of talk this through Donald Trump. He did
Speaker 1: a State of the Union you're not supposed to call
Speaker 1: it a state of the Union because it's the first one.
Speaker 1: He is terrifing us. Explain to us what you think
Speaker 1: this guy is up to.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not a psychologist, and I don't know
Speaker 6: how much time we have. You know, he gave a speech.
Speaker 6: It was not a state of the Union. It was
Speaker 6: not a state or union. And it was a borderline
Speaker 6: not even borderline. It really was a campaign speech. It was,
Speaker 6: you know, relitigating all the things he said about Joe
Speaker 6: Biden on the campaign trail. It was a red meat speech,
Speaker 6: and I think that was intentional. I think it was
Speaker 6: a red meat speech in order to rally his troops,
Speaker 6: not to unify the country, not to appeal to independence,
Speaker 6: not to try to figure out what Democrats he might
Speaker 6: be able to work with. It was to appeal to
Speaker 6: the base, who right now is upset over how some
Speaker 6: of dose is executing these firings, especially with veterans. I
Speaker 6: think he was trying to rally the base because his
Speaker 6: people go to the grocery store and the price of
Speaker 6: eggs or the price of gold, every egg is a
Speaker 6: Faberge egg now, right he was trying to appeal to them.
Speaker 6: You know, they saw the tariffs, they saw the stock
Speaker 6: market go down, they were worried about their fourwin k
Speaker 6: So I think he was giving them a pep rally
Speaker 6: to rally the troops. I also think he was trying
Speaker 6: to talk to the people in the caucus. He's got
Speaker 6: to try to figure out how to keep government open
Speaker 6: next week, and he's pitching for them to vote for
Speaker 6: a clean CR, something Republicans don't want to do, hate doing.
Speaker 6: Historically thirty forty members vote against. And so I think
Speaker 6: that was the intent of his speech.
Speaker 1: And I think it's important just to pause for a
Speaker 1: second and remember that actually there is no CR yet.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to come over the weekend.
Speaker 2: Right. It does strike me.
Speaker 1: That nobody is in any kind of rush, despite the
Speaker 1: fact that the government shuts down in what fourteen days,
Speaker 1: twelve days.
Speaker 6: E's going bever the weekend when Congress is not in
Speaker 6: session or here, and that's really when we do our
Speaker 6: best work, quite frankly, Molly, is when oh, yes, we're
Speaker 6: not even here.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Mike Johnson has always seemed to me to be a
Speaker 1: person who is not great at math, but sometimes he's
Speaker 1: been able to get stuff done like, for example, when
Speaker 1: he passed this reconciliation, which has eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 1: billion dollars cut over ten years for Medicaid, explained to
Speaker 1: us that was a situation where they didn't have the votes.
Speaker 1: They had the votes, they didn't have the votes reporting
Speaker 1: said that actually just Trump called up members of Congress
Speaker 1: and told them did basically Mike Johnson's job right whipping
Speaker 1: the vote.
Speaker 6: Yeah, look, I think Trump is obviously he's the president,
Speaker 6: but I think he's also the de facto speaker of
Speaker 6: the House. I think I think Mike Johnson will do
Speaker 6: what Trump asks, and I don't think Mike Johnson will
Speaker 6: do something Trump doesn't want. And so what we're going
Speaker 6: to watch in this timeline that we're all stuck on,
Speaker 6: what we're going to watch is we're going to watch
Speaker 6: thirty or forty Republicans who have stood on principle, whether
Speaker 6: we agree or disagree, stood on principle against CRS because
Speaker 6: they don't believe that's how government should be funded. They
Speaker 6: believe in single subject spending bills that they don't want
Speaker 6: to vote for the Nancy Pelosi COVID spending bill, which
Speaker 6: is what that's the budget. We're using if you do
Speaker 6: a CR. That's been their position. We're going to watch
Speaker 6: Trump come to the Hill tell them that they need
Speaker 6: to vote for a clean CR. Trump's going to lobby
Speaker 6: them to do it, and we're gonna watch all of
Speaker 6: these folks just fold and do what Trump wants. I
Speaker 6: can tell you I'm not voting for a clean CR
Speaker 6: next week.
Speaker 1: And you're not known to be a wild leftist, So
Speaker 1: tell us why you're not voting for a clean CR.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I'm not voting for a clean CR for two reasons.
Speaker 6: One is whether I like the results of the election
Speaker 6: or not. I think the American people voted against the
Speaker 6: status quo, and so a CR is the status quo.
Speaker 6: It's literally just continuing to do what we've been doing,
Speaker 6: which is the American people have said we don't want. Okay,
Speaker 6: Mike Johnson promised to do spending bills, he promised his caucus.
Speaker 6: It was a commitment he made to the Freedom Caucus,
Speaker 6: and he's gonna go against that. That's number one. Number two,
Speaker 6: it's a trap because whether you like Doge or you
Speaker 6: don't like Doge, you think the mission of Doze is right,
Speaker 6: but you think the execution of Doze is wrong, which
Speaker 6: is actually what the majority of American people look like.
Speaker 6: They believe. About seventy five plus percent of Americans believe
Speaker 6: in the mission of Jos, but only thirty four percent
Speaker 6: of Americans believe in how they're doing it. They claim
Speaker 6: they found, you know, one hundred billion dollars worth of fraud, waste,
Speaker 6: and abuse.
Speaker 2: But it's impossible to substantiate any of that.
Speaker 6: Yeah, let's not argue that for a second. That's what
Speaker 6: they say, Molly, So let's just for this conversation take
Speaker 6: them at their word. What Mike Johnson is proposing is
Speaker 6: to refund all that fraud, waste, and abuse. And there
Speaker 6: is no way on God's green Earth. And I am
Speaker 6: going to walk myself into a trap where someone could
Speaker 6: say we found that they were sending condoms to Gaza,
Speaker 6: which we know is not true. They we found that
Speaker 6: they were sending condoms to Gaza or Sesame Street in Iraq,
Speaker 6: or they were making transgender mice, also not true.
Speaker 1: Right, those mice are actually a different anyway, It doesn't
Speaker 1: point matter, but the point of the mices.
Speaker 6: And Jared Moskowitz voted to refund all of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: I'm out walking into that trap, and so listen. They
Speaker 6: have been telling us for months now that they have
Speaker 6: a mandate, which, to be clear to my Republican friends,
Speaker 6: a mandate is not when me and Tim burd should
Speaker 6: go to dinner, right. A mandate, okay, is that they
Speaker 6: feel they won the House to senate the presidency. They
Speaker 6: won the popular vote. They have a mandate, but they
Speaker 6: only have a three vote majority in the House. So
Speaker 6: go pass it. Do it on your own. You don't
Speaker 6: need us, you're not talking to us, you're not negotiating
Speaker 6: with us. Do it on your own.
Speaker 2: They can't do it on their own, though, well.
Speaker 6: Look, don't say that, Molly. If the President really comes
Speaker 6: down on them, it appears at this moment the only one,
Speaker 6: and I disagree with him on just about everything, the
Speaker 6: only one that has any principle is Thomas Massey. Right.
Speaker 6: The entire Freedom Caucus, which has not voted for a
Speaker 6: CR since I've been here, has railed against the CR
Speaker 6: as the devil's milk and you know it, the Satan's this.
Speaker 6: It looks like they're about that is rollover and capitulate,
Speaker 6: and that's just where we are. It's a party of
Speaker 6: one and they're going to give the president whatever he wants.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then oh.
Speaker 6: And they're gonna add the debt. Molly, how about that one? Right?
Speaker 6: The Reconciliation Bill is going to add trillions of dollars
Speaker 6: to the debt. A cr will add trillions of dollars
Speaker 6: to the debt. And yet you know, somehow they want
Speaker 6: to talk to us about how the country's bankrupt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well no, I mean, obviously there's so many lies here.
Speaker 1: It's hard to farce what is real and what is
Speaker 1: not real?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 2: What is the sort of priorities here?
Speaker 1: I mean, like they're like, it's an emergency, it's an
Speaker 1: oil emergency. But we're the largest exporter of lergy, right,
Speaker 1: loquified natural gas. Obviously it is an emergency when they
Speaker 1: want something, not an emergency when it doesn't. But it
Speaker 1: seems like we're hurtling towards the shutdown. But there are
Speaker 1: and this happened in Troum one point zero. There are
Speaker 1: all these unintended consequences of trump Ism. For example, there's
Speaker 1: some measles outbreak. This is, you know, insane. In Texas,
Speaker 1: we have RFK Junior saying that CODs liver oil is
Speaker 1: an excellent treatment.
Speaker 6: It's not, well, Miley, you're not taking that. I've been
Speaker 6: taking that now for years and it keeps the spirits away.
Speaker 2: I'm just going to say that because I'm a normal person.
Speaker 1: I got vaccinated and then I ended up having to
Speaker 1: get vaccin again because I was born in that weird
Speaker 1: period where the vaccine didn't work. So I just had
Speaker 1: my numbers check to make sure that I'm vaccinated because
Speaker 1: measles is coming.
Speaker 6: I mean, the best part about that whole thing, by
Speaker 6: the way, is our of case children are vaccinated.
Speaker 1: Of course, he's not an idiot, He's just a Charlottan.
Speaker 1: So we have measles. We have a trade war. China
Speaker 1: just said they're ready to go to war with us
Speaker 1: on trade.
Speaker 6: Yeah bye, I like that. China was giving us options.
Speaker 6: So like, whichever type of war you would like, we
Speaker 6: are ready.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: We have Trump tweeting about moss, because why wouldn't he.
Speaker 1: It strikes me that we are hurtling towards a number
Speaker 1: of bad outcomes, none of which are necessary discuss.
Speaker 6: Well, I look, this is did by design. Okay, it's
Speaker 6: by design. It's always been by design, and Steve Vannon
Speaker 6: has talked about this a lot to flood, the zone, overload,
Speaker 6: create chaos.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: I mean, yesterday the market goes down six hundred points,
Speaker 6: today it goes up five hundred points, born or eighty
Speaker 6: five points, whatever it is. This is the chaos they're creating.
Speaker 6: Canada is gonna become the fifty first state. Governor Trudeau,
Speaker 6: We're getting greenland. We need greenland, Panama Canal Gaza is
Speaker 6: gonna be the Riviera. You're gonna bring your whole family
Speaker 6: to Gaza, Disney Gaza. This is the whole thing you
Speaker 6: know that we're doing. Oh, we're putting on tariffs, a
Speaker 6: little bit of pain. Oh, but today we're taking off
Speaker 6: auto tariffs because you know, the auto manufacturers weren't happy,
Speaker 6: and let's create all this chaos. And while we're doing that,
Speaker 6: we're doing other things that no one's talking about. And
Speaker 6: that's why, you know, and some people disagree with me,
Speaker 6: but that's why I've just operated that we can't always
Speaker 6: be at a ten like, we can't always be at
Speaker 6: a ten like I can't be constantly outraged every hour
Speaker 6: of the day. I need to figure out levels of outrage. Okay,
Speaker 6: this is a seven, this is an eight, this is
Speaker 6: a ten. Everything can't be a constitutional crisis. If you
Speaker 6: disregard the Supreme Court, that's a constitutional crisis. If you
Speaker 6: disregard a lower court, we appeal. And so I know
Speaker 6: everyone's to be like, no, this needs to be all
Speaker 6: hands on deck all the time, screaming, yelling, going crazy.
Speaker 6: And I'm going to tell you that's not going to
Speaker 6: work in a messaging communications war, which is what we
Speaker 6: are in. We are in a messaging communications war. And
Speaker 6: if you don't think that's true, just look at last night.
Speaker 6: Who won that messaging war?
Speaker 2: Who won that messaging war?
Speaker 6: He did? He won that messaging war last night.
Speaker 2: And tell me why and how?
Speaker 6: Because he had the microphone. If it's tough to battle
Speaker 6: with a person who literally has the microphone when you don't,
Speaker 6: and when he's putting people up there that have childhood
Speaker 6: cancer and who have buried children.
Speaker 1: I just have a question about the childhood cancer for
Speaker 1: a minute. So that poor kid TJ has cancer, but
Speaker 1: they have frozen ANIH funding that funds childhood cancer research.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, you're one hundred percent right, Molly. But
Speaker 6: here's a question to you. Do you think the proper
Speaker 6: thing then would have been to stand and clap for
Speaker 6: DJ and then immediately sit down and put out an
Speaker 6: X out of press release, go to the cameras and say,
Speaker 6: we pray for DJ, but Donald Trump took away funding
Speaker 6: to try to cure what DJ has in other people. Yes,
Speaker 6: that's how I think we should have handled it. I
Speaker 6: think you're right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because the thing is, if we learned anything from
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, it's that if you don't respond to
Speaker 1: every lie, if you don't flood the zone with facts,
Speaker 1: after you know, the zone is flooded with shit. Unfortunately
Speaker 1: for you guys, there is no mainstream media, so you
Speaker 1: have to go in there and be like, this kid
Speaker 1: has cancer. It's terrible. Wouldn't it be good if we
Speaker 1: were focused on medical research and not cutting medical research
Speaker 1: By the way, he got it from being exposed to chemicals,
Speaker 1: chemicals that Donald Trump is bragging about cutting regulation of.
Speaker 2: No, I agree, there's going to be more tjs.
Speaker 6: Yeah. When I talk about who won the messaging war yesterday,
Speaker 6: this is a good example. Yes, correct the reason why
Speaker 6: this is a key point, and not everyone has to
Speaker 6: agree with me. I'm not the most progressive member, but
Speaker 6: I do understand messaging and the reason this is a
Speaker 6: key point is because we are in the minority in
Speaker 6: the House, and we have weakened the minorities power in
Speaker 6: the House over years. We've weakened the House in general,
Speaker 6: Congress over a period of years, and so a lot
Speaker 6: of people are looking at Democrats saying, do more, do more,
Speaker 6: do something. There isn't much we can do in Congress, right.
Speaker 6: We can file bills, they don't get heard. We can
Speaker 6: file amendments, they don't get heard. Okay. What we have
Speaker 6: is we have the TV cameras, we have the Internet,
Speaker 6: we have social media, we have podcasts. We can message
Speaker 6: on bills on the floor, we can message on bills
Speaker 6: in committee. We can talk to the American people, and
Speaker 6: we have to out communicate them, and we have to
Speaker 6: be smarter on how we do that. That is what
Speaker 6: we have. We can organize in the streets. But as
Speaker 6: far as what we can do within the chamber, okay,
Speaker 6: there is almost no power at all for us to
Speaker 6: do anything. And so messaging, messaging, messaging, messaging. There is
Speaker 6: low hanging fruit here. The Republicans are firing veterans, right,
Speaker 6: that's low hanging fruit. The price of eggs is more
Speaker 6: now than it was during Joe Biden I thought we
Speaker 6: were fixing that on day one, low hanging fruit inflation.
Speaker 6: We're gonna fix that on day one, low hanging fruit,
Speaker 6: the tariffs which are gonna make goods more expensive for Americans,
Speaker 6: low hanging fruit, over and over and over again. We
Speaker 6: should be talking about it.
Speaker 2: I mean, yes, I just don't understand why you guys aren't.
Speaker 6: I think right now we're caught up in this idea
Speaker 6: that we're hearing from our constituents and from activists of like,
Speaker 6: you do more, do more, right, And so this idea
Speaker 6: of doing more doesn't mean what we're doing is smart.
Speaker 1: Right, But I do think more. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: like the fundamental problem here right. One of the things
Speaker 1: that I'm struck by when I talk to Democrats in
Speaker 1: Congress is that there's a lot of feeling like, oh,
Speaker 1: we have to get this message right, and I don't
Speaker 1: think you do. I just think you need to get
Speaker 1: it out. Look, you're never going to be Trump, right.
Speaker 1: The rules of political gravity do not apply to Donald
Speaker 1: Trump for whatever reason.
Speaker 6: And he's got the bully pulpit and he knows how
Speaker 6: to use it.
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I believe that there is a sort of sense in
Speaker 1: which we have. Yes, he has the billy pulpit, Yes
Speaker 1: he knows how to use it. But also he works
Speaker 1: incredibly hard to like he works the media. He's constantly
Speaker 1: talking to media, He's constantly letting media in. Meanwhile, democrats
Speaker 1: are like so worried about is the message the right message?
Speaker 1: Are we saying the right thing? What if democrats just
Speaker 1: talk and just go out there and do one hundred interviews?
Speaker 1: Like do they need to be quite as controlled and
Speaker 1: fearful as they are? Like should Al Green have screamed
Speaker 1: at that thing?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Al Green's tried to impeach Trump like fifteen times, but
Speaker 1: the reality is like he did it, and I actually
Speaker 1: think more is probably a little bit better.
Speaker 6: The strategy you're highlighting I agree with, right, which is
Speaker 6: we can't be afraid to communicate because we might make
Speaker 6: a mistake. Lord knows, I've had to delete some tweets
Speaker 6: over time, okay, And so we can't be afraid to communicate,
Speaker 6: So we can't be in our bubble. We can't only
Speaker 6: talk to friendly media. Also, right, we got to go out,
Speaker 6: We got to communicate over and over and over and
Speaker 6: over again, and we got to try different messages, throw
Speaker 6: things at the wall, figure out what sticks. That's what
Speaker 6: they do, right, cry all of these things. I totally
Speaker 6: agree with that, But we also shouldn't make it easy
Speaker 6: for them when we try to do something for them
Speaker 6: to just you know, give them a gift. And I
Speaker 6: think there were some instances yesterday where we gave them gifts.
Speaker 2: What are you thinking about?
Speaker 6: Well again, I just I think that, you know, forget
Speaker 6: what individual members did. I think we should have separated
Speaker 6: Donald Trump from his guests.
Speaker 1: And explained the ways in which Trump is going to
Speaker 1: hurt these people. I mean that, I just don't understand
Speaker 1: how you don't thread the needle on that, Like he's
Speaker 1: advertising people who's actively hurt.
Speaker 6: We gave them a gift. Here was the message. The
Speaker 6: message was Democrats are so out of touch they couldn't
Speaker 6: even stand for a kid with cancer, right, Okay, that
Speaker 6: was a gift, sure.
Speaker 1: I mean I think more of the question is like,
Speaker 1: why is there not more research going to cancer funding?
Speaker 1: Why is Elon Musk holding the federal government hostage?
Speaker 2: How is that? Okay?
Speaker 6: All the one hundred percent and so members that are
Speaker 6: going out there today talking about it, Okay, they're talking
Speaker 6: about it. I'm talking about it, they're talking about it.
Speaker 6: We're out there saying they're cutting cancer research. I mean,
Speaker 6: my dad died of pancreatic cancer. The issue now is
Speaker 6: you say that and the first thing they say is
Speaker 6: did you stand for the kid with cancer?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 6: We can say this is silly standing or not standing,
Speaker 6: but you know, look, I'm a parent, I'm a parent.
Speaker 6: A lot of us are parents, and there are some
Speaker 6: things that cut through. There are times where I don't
Speaker 6: hear from some of my friends for a while. They're
Speaker 6: not really political. When I hear from them, I know
Speaker 6: a message broke through, right, and I heard from them
Speaker 6: on the Hey, how come they didn't stand for that?
Speaker 6: With that for that kid? And so we can think
Speaker 6: this is all silly.
Speaker 2: Right, but if it's getting through, it's getting through out.
Speaker 6: But if it's getting through, it's getting through. My opinion
Speaker 6: of it is irrelevant. That got through. It just made us.
Speaker 6: We are not out of touch, right. We are the
Speaker 6: party who cares about that. Okay. We are the party
Speaker 6: that cares about the working people, cares about the federal worker,
Speaker 6: cares about government, cares about social Security, Medicaid, Medicare. We
Speaker 6: are the party yet they are constantly being able to
Speaker 6: show we're out of touch because we're making it easy
Speaker 6: for them. Molly, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's there better than Democrats. I think
Speaker 1: it's ease better, right, I mean, obviously Republicans or not.
Speaker 6: They're better at messaging because he sets the message, they amplify, right.
Speaker 2: So yes, and he's much better a performance, and that's
Speaker 2: where we are. But he's also not bound to the truth. Right.
Speaker 1: Imagine a Democrat being like, we're cutting cancer funding. Clap
Speaker 1: for the cancer kids.
Speaker 2: You monster.
Speaker 6: If Donald Trump, from the microphone yesterday had said, you know,
Speaker 6: everyone stand for DJ we're making you a secret service agent.
Speaker 6: We're standing, and then Donald Trump said, and we're cutting
Speaker 6: cancer funding. Okay, his members they would have stayed clapping. Okay,
Speaker 6: but this is not news. We know that this was
Speaker 6: like it was like this in the first term. It's
Speaker 6: even worse in the second term. It's not news. So, yes,
Speaker 6: the rules don't apply to him. Yes, you know, he
Speaker 6: can get away with stuff other people can't get away with. Okay,
Speaker 6: but know that know that work around it, figure out
Speaker 6: how we communicate. So anyways, we don't have to Harbor
Speaker 6: on that very interesting. Thank you, Jared Moscow it no
Speaker 6: no moment, Jesse Cannon.
Speaker 4: Smile, jun Fast.
Speaker 3: I have to say, you know, when you're running around
Speaker 3: with a chainsaw cutting everything, just smashed everything and seeing
Speaker 3: what sticks, sometimes you smash very stupid, stupid, stupid things.
Speaker 2: Is it gay to have the last name Gay? Are
Speaker 2: you gay if you have the last name Gay?
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Congratulations to all who celebrate, we have hit peak stupid.
Speaker 1: Here's what happened a guy named Aola Gay. I know
Speaker 1: you're gonna be shocked to hear this, but having the
Speaker 1: last name Gay does not, in fact make you gay.
Speaker 1: This photograph of a person named Aenola Gay a B
Speaker 1: twenty nine bomber that dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima,
Speaker 1: so he named his plane the Anola Gay after his mother.
Speaker 1: The photograph of the Anola Gay was flagged for being gay.
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