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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, March twenty first two Thy eighteen, Season thirteen,

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Speaker 1: episode number one oh six. Welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: The Break. I am Derek Eagleton, joined by our normal

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Speaker 1: cast here. And actually I just thought about something. I

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Speaker 1: got that wrong. It's actually season fourteen. Yeah, it is

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Speaker 1: an episode number two because the NFL year has changed

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Speaker 1: now we're into a new NFL season. Um, and it

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Speaker 1: have been episode one, and he didn't get that right. Fire.

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Speaker 1: Literally nobody cares gone gone, Season fourteen gone. He'll never

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Speaker 1: host again in this city. Wow, that's not true. Actually,

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Speaker 1: was hoping you would save that drop for a little

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Speaker 1: bit later on when we talked about other people. Well,

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Speaker 1: see you later. That one took. Yeah, all right, so

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Speaker 1: we got a lot to talk about. Free agency is here.

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Speaker 1: There have been a lot of moves around the NFL. Ironically,

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Speaker 1: there have been zero moves here with the Cowboys, although

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Speaker 1: there are things. I'm sorry, yes, they're not. Forget about

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Speaker 1: has been, but that wasn't a free agent move. It

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts of kind of what's transpired so

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Well, can we just say also that Alan

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Speaker 1: As soon as you said that, I knew it was coming. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But also, I mean Joe Thomas is also here, and

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Speaker 1: it's it's what and there there's not many players that

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Speaker 1: can score seventy five yard touchdown out there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, he's got a little bit of of more

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Speaker 1: offensive game to him than Um, than Keith Smith. So

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Speaker 1: if they're gonna use him that way, then that's fine.

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Speaker 1: But if he's just got more offensive game, but you're

431
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Speaker 1: not gonna you're still gonna play him in the same role,

432
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Speaker 1: then that's not good. I think what was once what

433
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Speaker 1: the seventy five yard touchdown? Yeah, yeah, I mean, well

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Speaker 1: one of them wasn't a tight He's He's had a

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Speaker 1: few long receptions. I'm saying, I'm you don't just base

436
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Speaker 1: your no, I'm raiding on him just by one or two,

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Speaker 1: And I didn't. I did not do that. What I

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Speaker 1: said was is he was just a better offensive player,

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Speaker 1: and he's probably got more skills offensively. If that's how

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Speaker 1: they're gonna use him, if they want to line them

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Speaker 1: up in front of Zeke and just blast these linebackers,

442
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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's his game, so at his

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Speaker 1: Keiths game. Again, what I'm saying is, I think they're

444
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Speaker 1: gonna cut James Hannah probably or James Hannah's gonna have

445
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: a hard time making this team, and they're figuring out

446
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,920
Speaker 1: a way that Ola Wally plays fullback. But we you know,

447
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Speaker 1: you have to have Rico on this team for a

448
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Speaker 1: while at least, and then you've got You've got Swam,

449
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Speaker 1: and you've got all these other tight ends in the mix.

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Speaker 1: This is a way to kind of get him on

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Speaker 1: the field and do similar thing. Yeah, I think the

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Speaker 1: more important thing that I'll get that I'll personally keep

453
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Speaker 1: an eye on is how much does the Special teams

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455
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Speaker 1: fills in that gap, and we'll see, like it may

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Speaker 1: mean nothing. You may have guys that can easily replace them,

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Speaker 1: it may mean something. And that's the thing we've noticed.

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Speaker 1: I think over the years of watching this team. It

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461
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Speaker 1: dive in a little more on this Alan Hearns thing.

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Speaker 1: at the Star. Talking free agency, Let's get into this

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Speaker 1: this topic of Alan Hearns. He's a wide receiver that

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Speaker 1: has been playing in Jacksonville the last three year, four years,

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. In two fifteen had a really really great

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Speaker 1: season the numbers. In twenty fifteen he had sixty four

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Speaker 1: receptions for one thousand and thirty one yards and ten touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: really really great season. The downside is over the last

514
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Speaker 1: two years he's had some injuries. Played ten games last year,

515
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Speaker 1: eleven games a year before. In both seasons, had thirty

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Speaker 1: five and thirty nine receptions for four and seventy seven

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Speaker 1: and four hundred and eighty four yards, and then only

518
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Speaker 1: three and two touchdowns in those two seasons. So the

519
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: question becomes, what are you getting. Are you getting the

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Speaker 1: guy that you saw the last two years? Are you

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Speaker 1: getting the guy that you saw in two thousand and fifteen?

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Speaker 1: And you know, you said a really really great season

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Speaker 1: that was for a guy that you've been like, who's

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Speaker 1: Alan Hearns? Like when can I get him on my

525
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: fantasy team? Like and wow, Jacksonville actually has a player.

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Speaker 1: But but sixty four catches for a thousand yards and

527
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Speaker 1: ten touchdowns was was actually a down season for Like

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Speaker 1: I mean when Dez put up those numbers and Dess

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Speaker 1: numbers were one a thousand yards and in that many touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: But I mean Dez has had some numbers like that

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Speaker 1: would have said some pretty good years. But that's still

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Speaker 1: a really good season. Like also, keeping you go with

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Speaker 1: a thousand yards and ten touchdowns. That's a good season.

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Speaker 1: It's a good right, that's good season. That's a thousand

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Speaker 1: yards as a number two. Yeah, Alan Robinson was their

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Speaker 1: number one. He's yeah, he was a quarterback for that year.

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Speaker 1: That was the one year that Bortles had like a

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Speaker 1: great season. Everybody thought, Okay, they're rolling now. He came

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Speaker 1: in with Bortles. Yeah, and that would have been his

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Speaker 1: second year with Portals. But which that is really I

541
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Speaker 1: don't know what to make of this thing, because all right,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't signed. First of all, there's that but here

543
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Speaker 1: he's here visiting, but he hasn't yet. He does not

544
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Speaker 1: fit the mold of the other receivers that we've been

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Speaker 1: talking about, Dontrell in Men, Justin Hunter, and then you

546
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Speaker 1: can even throw in Bryce Butler as a candidate to

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Speaker 1: sign back. He's much more accomplished than those guys and

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Speaker 1: he will probably fetch a far higher price tag. He

549
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Speaker 1: also is not what I would think of as a

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Speaker 1: number one receiver. I mean, if you're gonna sign Sammy Watkins,

551
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: you're cutting des Briant. That's what you're that's going that's

552
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: going down. He's gonna be your number one. You're gonna

553
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Speaker 1: rebuild the receiver cord behind him. What are you doing

554
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Speaker 1: with Alan Hearns? I mean, you're gonna make him the

555
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Speaker 1: most expensive number four receiver in the league or are

556
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Speaker 1: you signing him to replace DEAs and saying, hey, big guy,

557
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Speaker 1: go get it be the number one even though you've

558
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Speaker 1: never done that. And by the way, injury now using

559
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Speaker 1: letting everybody know that you're going to use an early

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Speaker 1: pick on a wide receiver. In addition that, because I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't which you're gonna get rid of Deaz even if

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Speaker 1: you sign Hearns and not get a priority. And I

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Speaker 1: completely agree, I think, I mean, if Hearns, if Hearns

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Speaker 1: signs here, and I don't know anything, I'm not you know,

565
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Speaker 1: nobody told. The hypothesis is all me just trying to

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Speaker 1: make sense of why they would be interested in him

567
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: if they were going to sign him. I would imagine

568
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 1: they signed him, give him a decent paycheck, and then

569
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Speaker 1: draft a receiver highly next month, and then writings on

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Speaker 1: the wall that does is at I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: watch a little bit of tape, and I know brought us.

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Speaker 1: I was looking at him um last night and this morning,

573
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Speaker 1: and I watched a little bit he looks a lot

574
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Speaker 1: like this. I mean, forget the eighty eight. I mean

575
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Speaker 1: he he does bigger version though, right, a little big, right.

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00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: I mean he don't think he's as thick he looks.

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Speaker 1: He looks just like I mean, I mean he runs.

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Speaker 1: His routes are kind of the same, you know, which

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00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: isn't necessarily a good thing. Um. You know, his quarterback

580
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: doesn't always put the ball where it needs to be,

581
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: which is similar. Uh here, Um, you know, it's it's

582
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Speaker 1: a lot. There's a lot of des to it. And

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Speaker 1: if you and if you look at the last three years,

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Speaker 1: you're like, uh, what I'll tell you this morning. If

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00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: fans that want Alan Hern or people that want him

586
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: are gonna say, well, you know, Alan Hearn had fifteen

587
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: touchdowns last three years and this guy's had Doz had seventeen.

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00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: If you take it back four years, it's like thirty

589
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Speaker 1: three to nineteen. So, I mean I just think that

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00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 1: it's I don't I don't see how you have Hearns

591
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Speaker 1: and Daz on this team. That's I don't get this.

592
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: But even if Daz was gone and they have him,

593
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: and I haven't looked at his stape or anything, but

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00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: based on Brian already did his report and all that,

595
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: and I read it based on all all the things

596
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Speaker 1: that he wrote down. I mean, why would you have

597
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Speaker 1: won this guy? Does he really have the qualities that

598
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 1: you're looking for in a wide receiver? Yeah, he has

599
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: the qualities. I think. I think what you get, you

600
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: get a younger dad. You're just getting at You're not

601
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 1: really improving anything, really not getting younger. You're not younger,

602
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: and you I personally think you're saving money. I know

603
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 1: you said you think it's a heft of year prices.

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00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if I necessarily agree with that. I

605
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,120
Speaker 1: think you might be able to get that guy on

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00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: that kind of one year deal, that kind of two

607
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: year deal, because again, the last two years it's gonna

608
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: be hard for him to convince the teamies. I'm not sure,

609
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: but he missed what six games one year in five

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Speaker 1: games the other It's I mean, there is that if

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00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: if if you really don't think there's that much of

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00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: a market for him and you can get him to

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00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: a super team friendly deal like that, go for it.

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Speaker 1: But I know where he's going after this Jets, right, Yeah,

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00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: they got a boatload of a lot of money, a

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00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: lot and the need for playmakers. Yeah, I mean he

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00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: could be, but I think again, I think that these

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00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 1: numbers are why it's hard to convince me that a

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Speaker 1: team's gonna say, oh, he's the playmaker, we need to

620
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: go and spend what did what did we just say though? Teams?

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Speaker 1: Teams are doing that. Teams do that in free agency.

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00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: And if you've got eighty million dollars in cap space

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Speaker 1: and quincy and none, you is your only wide receiver

624
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 1: and you're about to draft a quarterback of the future,

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00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: and you got the money where you can overpay this dude,

626
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: who cares? I'm just saying. I just I look around

627
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: the league and I see some of these other deals

628
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: that you mentioned earlier in the show, where there are

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Speaker 1: much better players that are on one year deals, prove

630
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: it type deals. To me, this they prove it type guy.

631
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: The Ravens tried to give Ryan Grant eight million dollars

632
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: a year. I haven't anything's possible. I know didn't work out,

633
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: But at any Taylor Gabriel got seven and a half

634
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. I mean, not Taylor Garret. He

635
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: does have some extraordinary speed that you can say, hey,

636
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Speaker 1: we can use him in a lot of differentulties. All

637
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Speaker 1: I'm saying is, you know, for the Cowboys, it has

638
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: to make sense because they don't have that much cap space.

639
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: But the Jets could give this guy eight million per

640
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: year on a shorter deal just because they need somebody. Honestly,

641
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't think I could name more than one Jets none.

642
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: You I don't even know if I'm saying his name right.

643
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: That's how to little I know about the Jets. Lucky

644
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: Whitehead's up there. Good for him. They got Crabet, they

645
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 1: got you know, there's no Wayne Kurbett, there's no Key Sean.

646
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,400
Speaker 1: They're about that. They're going to draft a quarterback. They

647
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: need to have a reason for people to be excited

648
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: about their offense. I'm so I agree with Dave on

649
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: this one. I'm just saying I think this guy will

650
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: command a higher price tag than your and you know,

651
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: and I honestly, I hope the Cowboys don't overpay for him.

652
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: I don't and it doesn't sound like they they're willing

653
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: to overpay for anybody, But I hope they don't overpay

654
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: for him because I do think he's the kind of

655
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: guy that needs to prove it. Kind of deal he

656
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: has not proven in the last two years that he

657
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 1: is a guy that's worthy of a big contract in

658
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: my opinion. But to Amber's point, let's just say you

659
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 1: did that. Alan Hearns is twenty six, that's is turning thirty, Um,

660
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: so you're basically getting a younger, similar player. And then again,

661
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: if you did this, I would have to assume you're

662
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: going to spend a top fifty draft pick on a receiver.

663
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: So you turn your receiver corps over basically, just like

664
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: you did with your cornerbacks. You make your top two

665
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: receivers twenty six or younger going forward, and then you

666
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: can figure out what you want to do. And last

667
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: year you have a receiver let that you drafted last

668
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: year as well. So I mean, if you were to

669
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: do this, then I believe Terrence Williams would become your

670
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: oldest receiver and he can't be any older than like

671
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty maybe not even that old. Oh yeah too, well, well,

672
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: but you we already drafted somebody that he's like, Yeah,

673
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: Beasley's also in a contract year, So I meant, I mean,

674
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna play out, but it

675
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: seems like they're very much interested in doing to their

676
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: receiver corps what they did to their cornerback group. Yeah,

677
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: and I just I agree with Dave. I think that

678
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: somebody liked the Jets, which you ask them, Okay, what

679
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 1: do you all need? We just need a guy that

680
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 1: can play, we need we need you. You could come

681
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: in and help us. But there's more questions with the

682
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys doing what's up first of all, like if I'm

683
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 1: if I'm his agent, and Alan Hurns, I'm like, what's

684
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 1: going on with this? I mean, what what's up there?

685
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: What rolled am I am? I? You know, walking into

686
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: here um, which it's it's very intriguing because and you know,

687
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: I'll eat Crow. March isn't over. But I think I

688
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: said at the beginning of March, I thought the dead

689
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: situation would have resolved itself, because I guess I went

690
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: into it thinking they were going to answer the dead

691
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: question first and then do what they had to do

692
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 1: after that, and they're clearly not doing that. They're either

693
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: going to try to do it simultaneously, or they're going

694
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: to try to answer the dead question after they bolster

695
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: the rest of their receiver group. I think they had

696
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: a free agent list, and I you know, I think

697
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins was at the top of it. I don't

698
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: know if there was another guy, but I bet Dez

699
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: was in there as well. It wasn't like we cut

700
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: does or we don't. We don't like, let's see if

701
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: we got someone better, if we can do, I guarantee

702
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,240
Speaker 1: if Sammy Watkins would have come here, is going to

703
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: be cut. I don't think that there's any way around that.

704
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: I don't know about Herns. I don't know if if

705
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: they're seeing you know, if he can if he comes

706
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: into this mix or not. But you've got a lot

707
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: of guys that are the same type of player to me,

708
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: des Terrence, and now if you signed Alan Hearns, I

709
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: think they would be all similar type guys. Yeah, I

710
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 1: just I think it would would be a I think

711
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: it would probably be a mistake to think that if

712
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna that you're gonna get rid of Dez and

713
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: that Alan Hurns would be his replacement. I don't think

714
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: you're better doing that Hearns and you're drafting a guy

715
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: you have to do. Yeah. But but I'm a believer

716
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: personally that the chances of a rookie wide receiver. I

717
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 1: know we've seen some of the last few years that

718
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: have bucked this trend. But I'm a believer that a

719
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: first round draft pick at wide receiver, you cannot count

720
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: on them to be a significant contributor in their first

721
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: year unless and when we've seen it work, typically they

722
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: have a really great gal on the opposite side. That

723
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 1: won't be the case in this instance. You'll have some

724
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: good guys. I don't know. If you have a great

725
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: guy on the opposite side is going to take a

726
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 1: little bit of attention. So I don't really factor that

727
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: in for this year. Yes, for the future, I don't

728
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: factor it in as much for this year. And again,

729
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out Dak. You know, we still

730
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: don't know how he's going to be in his third year,

731
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: and then bringing in and rookie and trying to put

732
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: everything on that rookie and trusting him and this hears

733
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: how do you say, urns. I don't like that idea

734
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: at all, and the whole fac I understand being younger

735
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: and in a way being cheaper obviously, but why does

736
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 1: that matter really at that point? If you were talking

737
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: about like a rookie guy, then that's different because that's

738
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: way younger, and yes, you have more time to develop,

739
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: but this guy, you're at this point, you're wanting a

740
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver that can actually do something, not to test

741
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: on the field and put him out there and see

742
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 1: how he does and try to connect him with Dyke

743
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: and see how he goes with them. I mean, if

744
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to see that with Dez, I

745
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: sure wouldn't want to be able to see this with him,

746
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: or I wouldn't expect something better through him. The one

747
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: thing I think that's a caveat to this whole thing is,

748
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: at least from the way the Cowboys could be thinking

749
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: about this, they could be thinking of this as a look,

750
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: if we have Zeke for a full season, we believe

751
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 1: that we don't need a true number one if they're

752
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: going to make that move right, Yeah, they could be

753
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: looking at this. And I was the one that talked

754
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: about it in two thousand was a two sixteen. Those

755
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: games it does miss, they're often still kept going. And

756
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: I think the reason why the offense still kept going

757
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: is because you had Zeke back there and you had

758
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: a great offensive line. And they may be looking at

759
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: this and saying, look, if we have Zeke for sixteen games,

760
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: and we've got our offensive line clicking. We believe that

761
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: our quarterback can make the few throws he has to

762
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: make per game, that the receivers we have have right now,

763
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: even without Dez, can make the catches that we need

764
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: to make during the game, and our offense is still clicking.

765
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: So also how it went in and Cole yeah open

766
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: and being able to make those plays, I mean not

767
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 1: at this point, or we didn't see that last year. Well,

768
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: but I think their their argument will probably be, well,

769
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 1: we didn't have Zeke the whole season, and once we had.

770
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: When we had Zeke, by the time right before he

771
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: got suspended, this offense was clicking. And I think they

772
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: believe if we have him for a full season without

773
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: the distraction of this thing hanging over his head, and

774
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: we can get back to what we were. We think

775
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: our offense can be efficient even with the receivers that

776
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: we have. We don't necessarily have to change out a lot.

777
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: We can go cheaper and have an Alan Hearns that

778
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: we think could be maybe comparable. And that's well, and

779
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: that makes sense, and that's probably why they're you know, Jerry.

780
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: Probably my favorite jerryism is the tolerance for ambiguity. I mean,

781
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 1: like this whole thing is just nebulous right now, and

782
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like it bothers him too much. I

783
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 1: mean it'll, you know, by the time the draft's over,

784
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 1: I feel like we'll have a much better idea of

785
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 1: what their plan is. But they don't seem like they're

786
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 1: in a hurry one. I mean, whether it's Dez and

787
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: a rookie, or Alan Hearns or somebody else that hasn't

788
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: been cut yet. I don't know one alarming trend. I

789
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: just looked at his stats. Hearns sixteen, fifteen, eleven ten,

790
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: that's the game's played in that order. He's you know,

791
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: he's rookie year sixteen and fifty. I mean he's always

792
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: trending downward. I mean sometimes four years. That's still somewhat

793
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: of a small sample size, but I mean he you know,

794
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens with his career. But he's starting

795
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 1: to get injured a little bit more. You'd like to

796
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 1: kind of see a full sixteen in there, you know lately, which, well,

797
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,839
Speaker 1: to Derek's point, maybe his market won't be as great

798
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: as I think it is because of that. I don't know. Yeah.

799
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: I gotta figure out what what they do with Deaz

800
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: I mean, and they have a plan. They're just they're

801
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: just not having a press conference every week telling us

802
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: about yeah yeah, all right, let's take our final break.

803
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: When we come back, I do want to talk about

804
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper. He signed with the forty nine ers, and

805
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: I want to talk about what kind of hole, at

806
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,520
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807
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,800
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00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,120
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00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,000
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00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,360
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00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: home or in the stands. Actually, you're more than a fan.

849
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: You are a member of Cowboys Nation, and so is

850
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: AT and T doing their part to keep you connected

851
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: to America's team all season long. Is a proud member

852
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: of Cowboys Nation. Back to the Break, Welcome back. It

853
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: is the final segment of the Break, Nick take it away.

854
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, hell yeah. Let's talk a little bit

855
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: about Tommy John and you know what, we have different

856
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: reads about it. The one thing that I don't think

857
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: we talk about a lot is true Cowboy fans love

858
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: to wear their their star. Tommy John gives you that ability.

859
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: If you go to the website Tommy John dot com

860
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: forward slash Cowboys you'll be able to look at not

861
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: only a great pair of underwear, the best that there is,

862
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 1: but you can personalize it with your favorite team. You

863
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: put a star on there, and so if you get

864
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: to that point, you know, and people get to see

865
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: the draws that are like, oh, Cowboy fan as well.

866
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: So go to Dallas cow I mean you can go

867
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: to Dallas Cowboys as well. Hopefully definitely if there, you're

868
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: already here, but tell me John dot com forwards last Cowboys.

869
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 1: You get twenty percent off your first order and you

870
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: can also figure out a way to put that star.

871
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: We have other fans on the other teams, fans that

872
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: listen to our show. Yeah, but they're just haters. Yeah,

873
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 1: but they listen. Who there are people? Oh well, I

874
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: guarantee welcome on board. Sometimes we talk about your team,

875
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,320
Speaker 1: Yeah we do. We do. So we'll talk about the

876
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 1: forty nine ers for a second. We do need to

877
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: talk about that trending upward. They've made a lot of

878
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: moves and you look at what they were year and

879
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: a half ago. They are a completely different team. And

880
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: yesterday they pick up one of the Cowboys. I guess

881
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: one of the guys that Cowboys were okay with losing

882
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: in Jonathan Cooper, who started for them all last season

883
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 1: and I thought played pretty well, and I think it

884
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: does leave a significant hole for them now that they

885
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: have to feel as far as a starting guard. What

886
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: do you guys think about losing Jonathan Cooper cool? I mean,

887
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that it affects them at all.

888
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: I really don't know. I wasn't one of those one

889
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: year deals that that Dave mentioned earlier, so it wasn't

890
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: like they committed a lot to him. Yeah, they get

891
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: they want him. I don't know the number they watched.

892
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 1: I heard an interview this morning they said it. I

893
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: forgot it. I know it's a one year deal. They

894
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: want to see what he looks like when he doesn't

895
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: have an all Pro center and all Pro left tackle

896
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: next to him. I think the Cowboys are looking at

897
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: this going Ron Leary was pretty good, and then he

898
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: comes in there and he does does really well, you know,

899
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: and then lyell, okay, can he play guard? He's never

900
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: played it, and he played pretty well. And then Leary

901
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: comes back and then he's done well. And then Jonathan

902
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: Cooper has been around three teams and he does well.

903
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: I think they're kind of seeing that. You know what,

904
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: let's get that you just plug in whoever. I mean,

905
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: not whoever, But I don't know what we're not gonna

906
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 1: Um a little slight. Maybe it's a little bit you

907
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: think you can play left guard? Who Derek, No, No,

908
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: too slight. You don't have an ass at least not

909
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: compared to some. First of all, why are you looking

910
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: we work closely together. I'm sorry. Still, I don't look

911
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: at yours, don't look at mine. Well you do buy up.

912
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: That is pretty inappropriate, rich coming from you. But you

913
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 1: did to Tommy john Ry last week. It was fantastic,

914
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: That's what I heard. I heard it was really really

915
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: well done. Um. I've said like three dozen times this

916
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: offseason that I thought they should bring Cooper back because

917
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: i've you know, you get him on a very inexpensive,

918
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: like one or two year type of deal. But again,

919
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: like I'm not heartbroken that it didn't come to pass, because,

920
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: like Nick said, I mean, I'm glad you did say

921
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: anything inappropriate right there? Yeah, oh well yeah, good, um.

922
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: But it's yeah, like to nixt point, it's whatever he's

923
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: playing between two pro bowlers, you can you can find

924
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: damn near anybody to do that job for you, so

925
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: you know, best to luck to him. I thought it

926
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: made sense to bring him back, But there's any number

927
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: of other guys who can do that for you. Yeah,

928
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: So I mean it's not so much that that it's

929
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper as much as to me, it just creates

930
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: one more hole you gotta fill, and this time it's start.

931
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: It doesn't create anything though. That hole's been there since

932
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: the season. But let's yeah, I gave him like a

933
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: Brich guy or like one of those fan day again.

934
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: But but if you are, but if he is a

935
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: bridge guy, then the question becomes typically, when you got

936
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: a bridge guy, you got somebody else that's kind of

937
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: coming up next, And they don't really have anybody coming

938
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: up next. And I think the more important part of

939
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 1: it is the part that Nick wants to talk about here,

940
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 1: which is does this now affect what you're doing at

941
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: right tackle? Does your right tackle? And Lyle Collins now

942
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: become the guy that ultimately has to move again down

943
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: to guard because you got a hole at guarden And

944
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: that's the part I think is more important to consider here.

945
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: There they've looked at three different offensive lineman yesterday Cameron Fleming,

946
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: who was a starter the last year. Um, kind of

947
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: a journeyman, but but he's been a starter last year

948
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 1: for the Patriots start of the Super Bowl. That's something

949
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: can't see, you know, like out boys on this team

950
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: have not said, um, they he is. He's not really

951
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: a swing guy. He's gonna play tackle, probably right tackle

952
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: as his best position. So if they signed him and

953
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 1: they're in some negotiations with with him, then yeah, Lyle

954
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: would probably move to left or at least they're going

955
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: to figure that out and see if that's the that's

956
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: the best option. So they're also looking at some other guy,

957
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: was it Adrian wad Waddle. He's more of a swing

958
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: tackle option there. They also looked at a guard, Marcus Martin.

959
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's necessarily in the mix to

960
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: be signed. Also a couple of receivers too, Um yeah

961
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: in Men and Hunter. But well, Dave, I know you

962
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: have a problem with the idea of Lyle move and

963
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: talk to about why I have a problem. You just do, Okay, Yeah,

964
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: I just I don't love it. Uh, Like they're they're

965
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: like schizophrenic. Because for the first for forever, fans wanted

966
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: him to play tackle, and we're sitting here having these conversations, like, look,

967
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: they like him at guard. They said it a million times.

968
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: We like him at guard. We think he can be

969
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 1: really amazing at guard. So we say that for a

970
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: year and a half, anticipating that's where he's gonna be

971
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: low and behold. They changed their mind. They try to

972
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: move and tackle. They paid him very well to move

973
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 1: out there. And I've thought he did an awesome job,

974
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: like they like, nobody had a harder job than Lyle

975
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: last year, Like he had to play Vaughan and Carrigan

976
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: and Mac and pretty he would facing off against badasses

977
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: week after week after week, and I thought he was

978
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: hurt and with Annie had a bum foot and a lot.

979
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: I don't think you can and you guys know more

980
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: than I do, but I think there was a game

981
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: where he just got beat up. Well he got He

982
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: got pretty beat up in Denver in week two and

983
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: that's about it. Well, everybody got the most remarkable stats

984
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,360
Speaker 1: A little different to me. One of the most remarkable

985
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: stats of all years the fact that he was on

986
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: the injury report almost every week. He missed a lot

987
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: of Wednesday practice, missed a lot of Thursday practice miss

988
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 1: some were miss Thursday Friday. You know what me snaps

989
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 1: he missed last year ze Row zero snaps in the game.

990
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: Travis Frederick and him are the only two offensive players

991
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: to play every single snap. That's amazing to me because

992
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: there were some times where he couldn't even walk off

993
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: the field, so that that was probably should have Now

994
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: it's playing him at guard the best spot for that. See.

995
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a guard, I really don't. I

996
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: don't think he played guard. He played well. They were

997
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: also the worst team in the league at third and

998
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: one rushing. I don't think he gives you that kind

999
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 1: of push that you need. I think he's I think

1000
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: he's strong, but I think he's better at right tackle. Honestly,

1001
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: I think he can do either. No, so my problem

1002
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,880
Speaker 1: isn't I don't think he's necessarily worse off putting him

1003
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,399
Speaker 1: at guard. I just think at some point you gotta

1004
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: give this guy a chance to just let something. If

1005
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 1: it's tackle, yeah, keep him at tackle, guard, keep him

1006
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: at guard. Figure it out. But my man live Yeah.

1007
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: I mean they recruited him to come here like they

1008
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: wanted him so they wanted to be a part of it,

1009
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: And to be fair, I mean, he's been a starter

1010
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: when he's been healthy for most of his career, but

1011
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: let him get better at something like he's making all

1012
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 1: this great progress at right tackle. You have him at

1013
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: a bargain right now. I mean, if he's you know,

1014
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: I gotta believe he's at least in the upper half

1015
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 1: of starting right tackles and you're paying him seven million

1016
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: dollars a year. You got him for two more seasons.

1017
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 1: What if he does falter when he moves back to guard,

1018
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: or what if he's just not as good, or what

1019
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: if you have to pay your starting your new starting

1020
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: right tackle more money to do that? What if none

1021
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: of it makes sense to me? And I don't think

1022
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: any of it's well, what if we sorry go ahead?

1023
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: What if they decide to just let Zack Martin go

1024
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: and not resign him. Maybe that's the issue they haven't

1025
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: signed him yet. Than now you need a guard that

1026
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: would surprise. It's not an option that's not enough. A

1027
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: lot of things are a lot of things are options

1028
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: cut off your point for that. I was just gonna say,

1029
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: maybe the way that the cowboy, And again, this is

1030
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: not a for sure thing or anything, but maybe the

1031
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 1: way that the Cowboys started taking a look at this

1032
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: and it is that it's easier for them to find

1033
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: a tackle than a guard. And maybe there that's how

1034
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,760
Speaker 1: they're looking at it. Okay, can we find a better tackle?

1035
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: And we don't have many guards out there right now

1036
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 1: that we're looking at That goes against widely accepted football theory.

1037
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: Tackle is one of the hardest positions, and hey, a

1038
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: good one. You might be right there. Might not be

1039
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: a guard. They feel good about him free agency Marcus

1040
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: Martin was here, maybe they don't really love him. Draft

1041
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: a guy then, right there, this is a good draft

1042
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: class for guards. We've I mean, Hernandez and when are

1043
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: the names that you know? But there's any have to

1044
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:12,919
Speaker 1: do it in the first round. No, you can get

1045
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: a guy, and I mean a guy that can start

1046
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: to get a starter for next year. Do you have

1047
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: to do it in the first round this year? No,

1048
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: and you shouldn't. If you you got all pros everywhere

1049
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: else and a first round pick at right tackle, you

1050
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: should be able to plug in a third round pick

1051
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: and have him be okay and maybe not great, but fine,

1052
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't buy that. So no, we've seen it before.

1053
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: We've seen a seventh round pick start for this team.

1054
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 1: You know, a guard? How good was he? It was? Okay?

1055
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: Are you talking about Bill Nagy? It's okay, he was

1056
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: out of the league in two years, but I mean

1057
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: he was okay. I was about to say, I don't

1058
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 1: know if I think he's good, but whatever for that man?

1059
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Johnson was a center at second round pick?

1060
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: Was that right? Yeah? Nobody wants to hear this, but no,

1061
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna say it. No, I'm gonna say,

1062
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: who's gonna be behind Tyren Smith? Whoever? The guy that

1063
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: they try to sign in the next week or two.

1064
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: Not not. If you're talking about Lee and now he's starting,

1065
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: he won't be. That means now, what you've done is

1066
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: essentially you've created kind of three spots you gotta which

1067
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: is why if Cameron Fleming wants to be the starting

1068
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: right tackle for this team, I would say thanks, but

1069
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: no thanks, we're good. I would pay Waddle to be

1070
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: my swing tackle. I would keep Eyele where he is,

1071
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: and I would I would probably still sign an el

1072
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: Cheapo veteran guard and then try to draft somebody. That's

1073
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: what I would do and what I was gonna say

1074
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: is if push absolutely comes to shove, you could play

1075
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: Chaz Green at guard. If you do realize by the way,

1076
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,120
Speaker 1: you're creating just one more guy. You got a draft.

1077
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: We already talked about the possibilities of what you do

1078
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: with Does does that mean you gotta go get a

1079
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: wide receiver? If you already think safety is in a position,

1080
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: you gotta go and draft? Right, signed Fleming and I

1081
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: signed Waddle and I probably we'll see if you sign

1082
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 1: him both. You could do that. Looney's a free agent. Yeah,

1083
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 1: he's a free agent. Well, I know, I mean, we

1084
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: don't don't have one the backup center. Um, if you

1085
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,800
Speaker 1: sign both, that's fine. I just let's talk about Amber's

1086
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 1: point here that she's trying. I mean, she really wasn't

1087
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: joking around because look around the league. I mean, look

1088
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: at what Joe Thomas did ten years, right, and he

1089
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: was done. The injuries were just too much and he

1090
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: decided he wants to do something else. I mean, you

1091
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: told me something. Tyrn Smith is his eighth year. Where

1092
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: did that time go? Eighth year for Tyron Smith? Right?

1093
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: And you know starting to I'm not starting to. He's

1094
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: had a lot of issues with his back and neck

1095
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: and stuff. So I mean, that's why I would sign

1096
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: all those guys. I'm not gonna let an Atlanta game

1097
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: happen again. Yeah, that's a good point. I'm just not

1098
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: getting And so that's a great point. I guess back

1099
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 1: up there, I guess that's true. I mean, we we've

1100
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: known they need a swing tackle. Yeah. Uh, you know,

1101
00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: maybe this bites you on the butt later, but like,

1102
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to draft a tackle in the first

1103
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: round because I'm worried about Tyrn. I'm gonna give yet,

1104
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt for

1105
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: at least another year or two. If you have the

1106
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: same issues next year, then do you, I mean think

1107
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: then yeah, then that's that's a problem for sure. Um,

1108
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,240
Speaker 1: But for the I mean, yeah, they need a swing tackle.

1109
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: And whether that's the draft for free agency, it looks

1110
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: more likely to be free agency than the draft. To

1111
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 1: your point, if it's March twenty first, then you didn't

1112
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: realize that guard was a draft need. That's on you.

1113
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not I'm not saying I'm not saying that.

1114
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,960
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is with letting the starting guard from

1115
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 1: last year go now, you've got multiple things you got

1116
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 1: to consider it, and they all become draft. And if

1117
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna if by the way, as we talked about earlier,

1118
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: if you're gonna take Lyle and flip him down the guard,

1119
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: now you gotta you gotta find a tackle and a

1120
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: swing tackle. It's not just getting one tackle. Now you

1121
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: need two tackles. So my whole point is just that

1122
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: this just complicates things and gives you even more and

1123
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 1: you keep putting, pushing it back to say, Okay, we'll

1124
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: have to address that in the draft. We'll have to

1125
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: dress that in draft. Well, there's only so many picks.

1126
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: Whether it's whether it's Fleming and Why or two other

1127
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 1: guys whose names we don't know. I bet you they'll

1128
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: sign two offensive line free agents to help shore that up,

1129
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: and then we'll have it, and you think they'll be

1130
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: they'll be good quality. Though I guess that's the question.

1131
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I don't I said, I mean,

1132
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: it can't be. It can't nothing. I shouldn't say it

1133
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: like you don't have many. It can't be guys that

1134
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: are like Chazz, Like you need guys that are capable

1135
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: and that that have the ability to come in. As

1136
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 1: we talked about before, you got to secure your swing

1137
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: tackle has to be a guy that can come in

1138
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: a minutes minutes notice and be able to play well

1139
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: because you don't know what Tyren status will be. Necessarily

1140
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: because history so far showing that he's getting to a

1141
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: point where the Indies are mounting on him. You're walking

1142
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 1: into a situation where a guy has coached twenty seven

1143
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: years at this position in Paul Alexander, and I think

1144
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 1: that that is going to prove to be a pretty

1145
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: good get for this team. Yes, they've got talent, we

1146
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,640
Speaker 1: know that. Um. You know, Frank Pollock was the coach

1147
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: here and he was inexperienced at the time doing it. Um.

1148
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 1: But I think I think you're given a really good coach,

1149
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: some really great players, and then I think he can

1150
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: develop some as well. He's developed some guys over at Cincinnati,

1151
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying that Pollock didn't, because you know,

1152
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 1: Lyle that was a project and they did a nice

1153
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: job with him and some other players. But I think

1154
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: Paul Alexander is taking it up a notch or two

1155
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: and I think that's really gonna help him. All right.

1156
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: I think we get one question here. We got got

1157
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 1: any questions over there coming out of Twitter? We do that?

1158
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: Oh I forgot about that. Yeah, let's see hold on, Well,

1159
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: this one is going back onto the wide receiver stuff.

1160
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into that again. We should

1161
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: throw it out there, all right, we know how Amber feels. Well,

1162
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: let's go with this one. Do you think I was

1163
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,240
Speaker 1: could get a guard in the first round if Hernston

1164
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:53,359
Speaker 1: sign is sign? Okay, so you're saying that they get

1165
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 1: the wide receivers. Now you know to answer that. The

1166
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: point I was gonna make is and I don't love

1167
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: this theory. Really. I've never been a big fan of

1168
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: draft best available because I think it's really a lie.

1169
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't think most teams do that. Um, even when

1170
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,319
Speaker 1: they say it. I don't think you're drafting the best

1171
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: of it. You're drafting the best available need. Yeah. And

1172
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: so at nineteen, though, I think that they have a

1173
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: chance to really do that. I mean, there's gonna be

1174
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 1: a lot of needs here. I don't think a quarterback

1175
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: will be a pick. I don't think a cornerback will

1176
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: be a pick there. That would be a real or

1177
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: a tight end. Maybe I don't see running back either.

1178
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 1: Everything else I could. I could see if it's a guard. Yeah,

1179
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: if they're wiped out on you know, linebacker and receiver

1180
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: and defensive end and safety and tied end. I mean,

1181
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: is there a stud tight end that would fall to them?

1182
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: I think all the tight ends will still be on

1183
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: the board when they pick. Because that being said, I

1184
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: don't think then, I don't think that they would go

1185
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: tight end. Tight End is deep, but not not at

1186
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: the time. There's not a lot of great first round

1187
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,759
Speaker 1: they have great well, speaking of tight ends real quick,

1188
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: here another question this guy is asking, wouldn't it be

1189
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 1: a good move to release this is crazy, release a

1190
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:11,279
Speaker 1: Witten and use his seven million dollars cap hit. Now

1191
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: that guy an no disrespect to that guy. He's never

1192
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 1: really walked, probably walked in the Star and actually seen,

1193
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, sound insane. That's a big old mural that

1194
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: they got up there. I don't think that's good. I

1195
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen. Cut Jason Witten. There's a

1196
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: whole there's a cop making the Pro Bowl, and then

1197
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: then we need to talk about it. But you can

1198
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: continue to make the Pro Bowl regardless of if he

1199
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 1: was an altered or not. I mean he's still playing

1200
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: at a relatively high level. He's not the same guy

1201
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: he was, And I think that they could do a

1202
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: better job with mixing in, you know, some rotation, a

1203
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: little bit more um because they need they need more

1204
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: playmaking tight ends. But I just don't see how you

1205
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 1: cut him. Yeah, No, who's the leader on this team?

1206
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean they need that, they need that guy. We

1207
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 1: still need to find out about Recal. I'm still wondering

1208
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: what's going on with him? You and everybody, Well, no

1209
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: until we get to training camp, right forgot looks like

1210
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: all right, we appreciate you, guys, Joan us. We're back

1211
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: next week for another break. Till then for Nick even

1212
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: Dave helm At Amber Garcia, I'm Derek Eagleton. This has

1213
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 1: been The Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

1214
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,200
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1215
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,479
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