1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perilla offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,039 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. Joined 4 00:00:38,039 --> 00:00:39,638 Speaker 1: by the newest member of the Patriots Hall of Fame, 5 00:00:39,719 --> 00:00:41,759 Speaker 1: Mike Gravel, find out what led to some of the 6 00:00:41,759 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: greatest moments in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 7 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 8 00:00:47,959 --> 00:00:50,598 Speaker 2: Hoy're joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, but 9 00:00:50,679 --> 00:00:53,679 Speaker 2: number one in our hearts at least, Rodney Harrison. Good 10 00:00:53,719 --> 00:00:55,719 Speaker 2: to be home, Good to see you, guys. 11 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:58,999 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 12 00:01:00,679 --> 00:01:03,799 Speaker 3: Though, you can start with a simple question, just kind 13 00:01:03,799 --> 00:01:08,839 Speaker 3: of a thanksgiving what you're thankful for? Sorry, but it's 14 00:01:08,919 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 3: just a TV question. But yeah, no, no, no doubt. Yeah, 15 00:01:13,799 --> 00:01:15,639 Speaker 3: I'm blessed you, thankful a bunch of things. Got a 16 00:01:15,719 --> 00:01:19,159 Speaker 3: great family and no great great spot in my life. 17 00:01:19,279 --> 00:01:20,719 Speaker 3: Just trying to take get into the opportunity that I 18 00:01:20,759 --> 00:01:24,799 Speaker 3: have bred for his teams organization. There for the Good 19 00:01:24,839 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 3: Lord and no bess for you know all that He's 20 00:01:27,438 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 3: given to me and you know his purpose. So just 21 00:01:29,479 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 3: trying to live through that and just you know, thankful 22 00:01:31,598 --> 00:01:34,999 Speaker 3: for you know, good people and forgetting the opportunity to 23 00:01:34,999 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 3: Sunday like there were some inconsistencies or missed opportunities against 24 00:01:39,159 --> 00:01:40,999 Speaker 3: the Blitz in Miami. Now that you got to watch 25 00:01:41,039 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 3: the film and talk to the guys, I was wondering, 26 00:01:42,479 --> 00:01:46,839 Speaker 3: what do you think were the biggest issues that popped up? Uh. 27 00:01:47,239 --> 00:01:48,439 Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing is to be on the 28 00:01:48,479 --> 00:01:50,599 Speaker 3: same page. I think, you know, I think you know, 29 00:01:50,639 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 3: these guys are you know, working hard during the week 30 00:01:52,599 --> 00:01:55,079 Speaker 3: and we're we're put some good practice together. I think 31 00:01:55,119 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 3: you just gotta translate to the field. I think it's 32 00:01:56,559 --> 00:01:59,639 Speaker 3: different when those reps do count, and I think, you know, 33 00:01:59,679 --> 00:02:01,519 Speaker 3: something we'll figure out. I think we've been good against 34 00:02:01,519 --> 00:02:03,759 Speaker 3: the Blitz, you know, in my time since UH kind 35 00:02:03,759 --> 00:02:05,199 Speaker 3: of became the starter, So I don't think it's something 36 00:02:05,199 --> 00:02:06,999 Speaker 3: that we're going to over harper about. I think sometimes 37 00:02:06,999 --> 00:02:09,199 Speaker 3: you catch them in some things and try to exploit 38 00:02:10,279 --> 00:02:12,359 Speaker 3: they're blitzes and from there to try to get the 39 00:02:12,399 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 3: ball out, and they do a better job of getting 40 00:02:13,679 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 3: the ball out and get it out faster. How did 41 00:02:16,119 --> 00:02:19,279 Speaker 3: you drave your mindset after that game, which is obviously 42 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:21,199 Speaker 3: when I'm working for the ones you had as a starter. 43 00:02:21,559 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 3: Is it frustrated? 44 00:02:22,478 --> 00:02:23,319 Speaker 2: Is it angry? 45 00:02:23,559 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 3: But how would you kind of kind of put yourself 46 00:02:25,559 --> 00:02:28,159 Speaker 3: in a skind of place. No frustrating, you know, when 47 00:02:28,159 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 3: you're out there and you gotta you know, goog on 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:32,638 Speaker 3: the scoreboard for for you know, most of the game 49 00:02:32,679 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 3: and you feel like you're you're moving the ball just 50 00:02:35,159 --> 00:02:37,279 Speaker 3: you're kind of hurting ourselves offensively. So I think just 51 00:02:38,038 --> 00:02:40,159 Speaker 3: just mindset, keep going, you know, keep going, you get them. 52 00:02:40,439 --> 00:02:42,279 Speaker 3: You know, we're gonna you know, filter, you know, filter 53 00:02:42,399 --> 00:02:44,319 Speaker 3: some things out and and figure it out. And we've 54 00:02:44,359 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 3: been moving the ball this year, so I'm just gonna 55 00:02:46,359 --> 00:02:48,078 Speaker 3: start hurting ourselves and you know, whether it's in the 56 00:02:48,079 --> 00:02:51,078 Speaker 3: red zone hurting ourselves or have star possessions on first down. 57 00:02:51,159 --> 00:02:53,479 Speaker 3: So I think we got, you know, got the right 58 00:02:53,519 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: guys in there that can make some plays. And I 59 00:02:55,359 --> 00:02:56,879 Speaker 3: just gotta be a better job on my part of 60 00:02:56,879 --> 00:02:59,478 Speaker 3: giving the football and you know, getting the ball out 61 00:02:59,519 --> 00:03:01,478 Speaker 3: faster to help you guys up front with some. 62 00:03:01,439 --> 00:03:02,159 Speaker 1: Of the turnovers. 63 00:03:02,159 --> 00:03:04,559 Speaker 2: It seems like some of them are when you're trailing 64 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,879 Speaker 2: trying to make a play. Are you confident that we'll 65 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:08,319 Speaker 2: be able. 66 00:03:08,199 --> 00:03:11,319 Speaker 1: To curse some of the turnovers, but those aren't the situations. 67 00:03:10,799 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 2: That you're at. 68 00:03:11,879 --> 00:03:13,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm you know, I'm not too worried about, 69 00:03:13,519 --> 00:03:15,358 Speaker 3: you know terms obviously, you know, you know, putting the 70 00:03:15,359 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 3: ball and harm's way is a big emphasis for firsootball 71 00:03:18,119 --> 00:03:21,198 Speaker 3: team as a quarterback. But I think when you're trying 72 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:22,478 Speaker 3: to fight back and trying the game, you're trying to 73 00:03:22,519 --> 00:03:24,159 Speaker 3: make some plays. You know, some of them, some of 74 00:03:24,239 --> 00:03:26,638 Speaker 3: them happen. But I do think, you know, back on 75 00:03:26,679 --> 00:03:28,159 Speaker 3: my saving, I just have not worried about I am 76 00:03:28,199 --> 00:03:30,159 Speaker 3: worried about trying to football over. That's the problem. But 77 00:03:30,799 --> 00:03:31,879 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, you can't turn the 78 00:03:31,879 --> 00:03:34,599 Speaker 3: football over, and especially you know, I think we're losing 79 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,999 Speaker 3: turnover margin and most of the games, you know, with 80 00:03:36,999 --> 00:03:39,319 Speaker 3: with me back there, so that needs something that I 81 00:03:39,359 --> 00:03:41,639 Speaker 3: need to improve on. Sure, you kid, that big running 82 00:03:41,639 --> 00:03:44,079 Speaker 3: game against Tennessee a few weeks ago, ninety five yards, 83 00:03:44,199 --> 00:03:46,679 Speaker 3: does it seem like teams are really taking make an 84 00:03:46,719 --> 00:03:48,359 Speaker 3: effort to try to take that element out of the 85 00:03:48,359 --> 00:03:50,799 Speaker 3: game the last few weeks I have noticed too much, 86 00:03:50,959 --> 00:03:52,679 Speaker 3: you know, I think I just kind of based on 87 00:03:52,679 --> 00:03:54,959 Speaker 3: the game plan and you know, certain down of distances. 88 00:03:54,999 --> 00:03:57,039 Speaker 3: You know, we're kind of you know, fighting against the 89 00:03:57,079 --> 00:03:59,319 Speaker 3: chains and you know, backed up. It's a little hard 90 00:03:59,399 --> 00:04:02,239 Speaker 3: to kind of this defensive sitting back in some zone 91 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:04,199 Speaker 3: and little thing like that. So just try to take 92 00:04:04,199 --> 00:04:05,919 Speaker 3: advantage of when the opportunities do come, but you know, 93 00:04:06,079 --> 00:04:08,079 Speaker 3: not really trying to hunt it up, just trying to 94 00:04:08,079 --> 00:04:09,639 Speaker 3: take care of my body at the same time. You know, 95 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:11,399 Speaker 3: when they do when they are there, I'm still not 96 00:04:11,439 --> 00:04:13,719 Speaker 3: afraid of you go make a play great From your 97 00:04:13,759 --> 00:04:16,399 Speaker 3: first two three starts to the last three weeks, how 98 00:04:16,438 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: have you seen defenses adjust and play you more recently? 99 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:22,878 Speaker 3: I think just bringing different guys. I think kind of 100 00:04:22,919 --> 00:04:24,998 Speaker 3: you know, bringing guys externally and you try to do 101 00:04:25,039 --> 00:04:27,238 Speaker 3: some different things to kind of you either make me 102 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,718 Speaker 3: hot or you know, make you throw hot or little 103 00:04:29,719 --> 00:04:31,999 Speaker 3: things like that. So I think I'm just trying to 104 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,119 Speaker 3: you know, see different experiences and and learn from him 105 00:04:35,119 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 3: and just go about, you know, the next week and 106 00:04:37,399 --> 00:04:39,319 Speaker 3: hopefully not be a you know, repeat defender. You know, 107 00:04:39,318 --> 00:04:41,799 Speaker 3: that's what a VP preaches and and coach mail. So 108 00:04:41,799 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 3: that's my biggest thing. And then from that, defensively, just 109 00:04:44,159 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: gotta be able to run the football. You know, like 110 00:04:45,479 --> 00:04:47,959 Speaker 3: I said, if you're behind the chains, it's hard. You know, 111 00:04:47,958 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 3: we need to established the run. It helps us you know, 112 00:04:50,519 --> 00:04:53,038 Speaker 3: down the road and play action and throw it on 113 00:04:53,039 --> 00:04:54,758 Speaker 3: first down to mix it up. So little things like 114 00:04:54,799 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 3: that great. It's kind of year. 115 00:04:56,399 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: You hear about the rookie wall sometimes. Is that something 116 00:04:59,078 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: that's talked about y'all or is that really not something 117 00:05:01,719 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: you can. 118 00:05:01,958 --> 00:05:03,879 Speaker 3: Walk you about? Yeah, Rickie Wall for me, you know, 119 00:05:03,919 --> 00:05:06,519 Speaker 3: really starting quarterback, you all, the really thing of rookie 120 00:05:06,558 --> 00:05:08,879 Speaker 3: Wall is gonna hit me. I think. You know by 121 00:05:08,958 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: this time, everybody is and you're going through some type 122 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: of you know, injury or tired or something like that. 123 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:16,079 Speaker 3: So you know what opportunity to you'll be the starting 124 00:05:16,119 --> 00:05:17,879 Speaker 3: quarterback for the moving the Patriots. So I don't really 125 00:05:17,879 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 3: know what you wall from me. 126 00:05:19,119 --> 00:05:20,518 Speaker 2: It comes to getting the run, being and going. 127 00:05:20,599 --> 00:05:23,519 Speaker 3: Drake jud said, I think it was about a week 128 00:05:23,558 --> 00:05:24,038 Speaker 3: ago or so. 129 00:05:24,198 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: You know, we're gonna start putting more on your plate 130 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,558 Speaker 2: when he was asking about designed quarterback runs so separate 131 00:05:28,558 --> 00:05:29,878 Speaker 2: from the scrambles that you might do. 132 00:05:29,919 --> 00:05:32,679 Speaker 3: So off script, how would you like that if that 133 00:05:32,799 --> 00:05:35,759 Speaker 3: was starting to be incorporated into the Patriots offices. 134 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:38,199 Speaker 2: It's something that you would love, you for no doubt. 135 00:05:38,239 --> 00:05:39,919 Speaker 3: Think there's a tired of place for I think, you know, 136 00:05:40,438 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 3: you know, third and short yardage or down in the 137 00:05:42,599 --> 00:05:44,959 Speaker 3: red zone or goal line or maybe QB draw or 138 00:05:44,999 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 3: something like that. I think there's definitely a place for that. 139 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:49,118 Speaker 3: And you can kind of keep defenders and defenses on, 140 00:05:49,318 --> 00:05:51,078 Speaker 3: you know, on their toes with you know, mixing it up. 141 00:05:51,119 --> 00:05:53,078 Speaker 3: And I just gotta do my part of getting down 142 00:05:53,119 --> 00:05:54,759 Speaker 3: when once I do get the yardage. But I do 143 00:05:55,078 --> 00:05:56,879 Speaker 3: think there's a time and place for it. But at 144 00:05:56,879 --> 00:05:58,759 Speaker 3: the same time, I think, you know, getting the ball 145 00:05:58,799 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 3: in Madre and and a G and Hasey's hands better 146 00:06:01,159 --> 00:06:01,598 Speaker 3: than mine. 147 00:06:01,719 --> 00:06:05,879 Speaker 1: So take the NFL reinstated Jabrill Peppers as his teammate. 148 00:06:05,919 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? 149 00:06:07,359 --> 00:06:08,998 Speaker 3: It's glad to have him back in the building. You know, 150 00:06:09,119 --> 00:06:11,199 Speaker 3: no Peppers, you know, you know the real situation is, 151 00:06:11,558 --> 00:06:13,118 Speaker 3: you know, wait for him to you know, speak on it. 152 00:06:13,159 --> 00:06:15,319 Speaker 3: So I'm just glad to have him back. And you 153 00:06:15,359 --> 00:06:18,638 Speaker 3: know he's a great player. Mac brownis let go this morning. 154 00:06:19,039 --> 00:06:23,079 Speaker 3: Uh Hellana, just thought of what he meant to you, 155 00:06:23,078 --> 00:06:25,638 Speaker 3: you know time down there. Brown, he meant the world 156 00:06:25,678 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 3: to me, you really, you know, probably the main reason 157 00:06:27,759 --> 00:06:30,878 Speaker 3: I went to North Carolina Hall of Fame coach. He's 158 00:06:30,879 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 3: done it and he's such a player's coach. So I 159 00:06:33,198 --> 00:06:35,439 Speaker 3: saw the news and hated for him, and I love 160 00:06:35,479 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 3: coach and appreciate him what he did for me. But 161 00:06:38,119 --> 00:06:39,999 Speaker 3: I know, you know, he left it all out there, 162 00:06:39,999 --> 00:06:41,959 Speaker 3: and you know he's got no rerets. So thank you. 163 00:06:43,399 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 1: Patriots Playbook join John Brook as he brings you all 164 00:06:46,239 --> 00:06:49,638 Speaker 1: the latest Patriots Talk, an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 165 00:06:50,318 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 1: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent beat 166 00:06:52,719 --> 00:06:54,759 Speaker 1: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 167 00:06:54,799 --> 00:06:55,438 Speaker 1: state of the team. 168 00:06:55,519 --> 00:06:58,239 Speaker 2: But where the Patriots are concerned. Let's just get one 169 00:06:58,318 --> 00:07:00,919 Speaker 2: thing done, and let's get it done right and then 170 00:07:00,958 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 2: we can worry about versatility. Am I lying to anybody here? 171 00:07:04,078 --> 00:07:06,398 Speaker 2: Let's just get one thing done. Let's get one thing 172 00:07:06,479 --> 00:07:09,559 Speaker 2: done right, and then we can move along. 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