Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty arm Strong
Speaker 1: and Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 2: And finally I heard about a man in France who
Speaker 2: fell into a ravine and survived for three days on
Speaker 2: nothing but red wine, or as we call it here
Speaker 2: in America.
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: Hey, now I'm looking up at the TV. They're having
Speaker 3: a little discussion about AI music and the idea that,
Speaker 3: you know, who does anybody own the right so that
Speaker 3: or who owns the right set?
Speaker 1: I never thought about that.
Speaker 3: But with some of your formulaic pop music, like country music,
Speaker 3: for instance, since it's all really close to the same anyway,
Speaker 3: why would record companies.
Speaker 1: Need to pay anyone anything?
Speaker 3: Why would you need to have a writer who gets
Speaker 3: some of the money, or of course nobody's getting any money. Now.
Speaker 1: It's all about the touring, right and you need that
Speaker 1: human being up on stage.
Speaker 3: To promote the song, to go on Saturday Night Live
Speaker 3: and sing it on or whatever are you right, and
Speaker 3: then sell concert tickets anyway? Right now, Washington, d C.
Speaker 3: The Supreme Court, the justices, the barobued justices are doing
Speaker 3: the whole oral arguments thing over whether or not Trump
Speaker 3: has got the power to lay tariffs on all these
Speaker 3: different countries around the world and up end of the
Speaker 3: world economy is one guy. It just seems like to me,
Speaker 3: without knowing any of the law, it just doesn't seem
Speaker 3: like the way the system out of work.
Speaker 2: Right, as an actual conservative as opposed to a I
Speaker 2: support everything Trump does, character it's troubling that much executive power.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so the voices you're gonna hear are gonna
Speaker 3: hear the lawyer representing Trump's point of view that yes,
Speaker 3: he does have the power, and the female voice is
Speaker 3: Amy Cony Barrett, the conservative justice the Trump appointed.
Speaker 1: Here we go.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so an intermediate appellate court held at Intuia.
Speaker 4: But you just told Justice Kavanaugh that wasn't your lead argument.
Speaker 1: That your lead.
Speaker 4: Argument was this long history of the phrase regulate importation
Speaker 4: being understood to include terrorf authority. So my question is,
Speaker 4: has there ever been another instance in which a statute
Speaker 4: has conferred used that language to confer the power.
Speaker 1: Well, putting aside just cheetah, I.
Speaker 5: Mean, actually the other statutory example that just the imports.
Speaker 5: The cases we rely on our cases where, for example,
Speaker 5: and Gibbons is ogged in and Justice story.
Speaker 4: See that just shows the word can be used that way.
Speaker 4: None of those cases talked about it as conferring teriff authority.
Speaker 4: I understood you to be citing McGoldrick and Gibbons and
Speaker 4: those cases just to show that it's possible to say
Speaker 4: that regulating commerce includes the power to tire.
Speaker 5: I think our argument goes a bit further than that
Speaker 5: as interpretive matter, because if you look at that history,
Speaker 5: the history of delis is just answered the justices question.
Speaker 4: Con you identify any statute that use that phrase to
Speaker 4: confert her.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: The only two statutes I can identify now are tweya
Speaker 5: as interpreted in Yoshida and then closely related, not regular importation,
Speaker 5: but but just imports.
Speaker 3: In section two, that was the chicks before Styx, you know,
Speaker 3: jumping up there and saying, hey, don't let some dude
Speaker 3: man splain answer her question.
Speaker 1: Says the other chow Yes.
Speaker 2: The other chick may have been Justice Soda my Oar
Speaker 2: standing up for Amy Cony Barrett, which is kind of
Speaker 2: an interesting dynamic now that you bring it up. Coming up,
Speaker 2: there's a real bitter debate dividing the Supreme Court's liberal
Speaker 2: justices right now, what fuck?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was just one of your all?
Speaker 3: Was that a I'm jumping in here because my fellow
Speaker 3: female justice isn't getting your question answered.
Speaker 1: They don't have the patience with the rambling.
Speaker 3: They don't have the same politics, although they might on
Speaker 3: this issue.
Speaker 1: It's conceivable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very very very consumable. You know, I didn't understand.
Speaker 3: And the vast majority of that I'd forgotten. The voice
Speaker 3: of that dude whatever his name is, that represents Trump
Speaker 3: and all these things, ee John Sour. He's hard to
Speaker 3: listen to. Terrible types the CNN, you know, little words.
Speaker 3: The bottom of the screen. Conceptualization of this was Chief
Speaker 3: Justice Roberts and conservative Barrett pick a part Trump administration's
Speaker 3: arguments on sweeping terror authority. Although that's fairly vague that
Speaker 3: that's what you do.
Speaker 1: You pick upart.
Speaker 3: Arguments, doesn't mean you didn't believe them, were like them, right,
Speaker 3: Maybe you worth at least a few seconds on the
Speaker 3: fact that often Supreme Court justices will try to find
Speaker 3: flaws in their own arguments, which is really a pretty
Speaker 3: good thing for all of us to do if we're
Speaker 3: trying to be serious about having good, strong ideas and philosophies,
Speaker 3: but they want to see if the other council can
Speaker 3: point out a weakness in their own argument, so they
Speaker 3: can either come up with a way to strengthen their
Speaker 3: argument or realize maybe I'm not right, because no justice
Speaker 3: wants to write an opinion and then be post at
Speaker 3: having missed a major point.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite thing about the orl arguments is that
Speaker 3: every time they come up, all smart people say you
Speaker 3: cannot tell anything from the arguments, and then we go
Speaker 3: back to listening to the arguments, trying to deduce what
Speaker 3: we think it's.
Speaker 1: Happening, having just stated that you can tell but that's what.
Speaker 2: Well, No, I must quibble with your characterization that you
Speaker 2: can't tell anything from it. But you're right. You got
Speaker 2: to take it all with a grain of salt. You
Speaker 2: get clues, and clues are not proof.
Speaker 1: So I think this. Here's the next one.
Speaker 3: This is John Roberts, the Chief Justice, also a conservative,
Speaker 3: questioning Trump's lawyer.
Speaker 1: No, it's not or less. They're more or less a
Speaker 1: conservative more or less? Yeah, gotcha?
Speaker 5: Okay, if a cariff is imposed on they're automobiles, who
Speaker 5: pays them? There's a they're Typically there'd be a regardless
Speaker 5: who the importer of record is, there'd be a contract
Speaker 5: that would go along the sort of line of transfer
Speaker 5: that would allocate the tariff, and there'd be different Sometimes
Speaker 5: that foreign the foreign producer would pay them. Sometimes the
Speaker 5: importer bear the cost. The importer could be an American,
Speaker 5: could be a foreign company. A lot of times it's
Speaker 5: a wholly owned American subsidiary of a foreign corporation, so
Speaker 5: it gets allocated. The pure blossom has ranged from like
Speaker 5: thirty percent to eighty percent of.
Speaker 6: Like how much is born by I mean, it's been
Speaker 6: suggested that the tariffs are responsible for significant reduction in
Speaker 6: our deficit.
Speaker 1: I would say that's raising revenue domestically.
Speaker 5: There certainly is an incident on collateral effect to the
Speaker 5: terraffs that they do raise revenue, But it's very important
Speaker 5: that they are regulatory terrafts, not revenue raising terraces.
Speaker 4: Hmmm.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. From the politics of it, Trump has been
Speaker 3: pushing it as a big revenue maker for a long time.
Speaker 1: Yes, slicing lee the illegal argument a bit thin.
Speaker 3: Can I get somebody whose voice doesn't make it so distracting?
Speaker 3: I can't even really pay attention to what he's saying.
Speaker 3: Would that be possible.
Speaker 2: I know that's not fair and it may make us idiots,
Speaker 2: but it's like RFK, Junior, get a spokesper person, please,
Speaker 2: or even like an AI program or a parrot or something.
Speaker 1: You just and I'm sorry you have the condition in
Speaker 1: your voice. Is not your fault.
Speaker 3: No, it's not your fault. You're probably a brilliant laurier.
Speaker 3: But I can't listen to you right. Ah, it would
Speaker 3: be an interesting idea, he whispered in the pariser, and
Speaker 3: then the parent recite recites what you just said to it.
Speaker 2: Because I have no life, I spent a bunch of
Speaker 2: time reading about who is actually paying the tariffs, and
Speaker 2: it varies product to product, substance to substance if we're
Speaker 2: talking about like a raw material.
Speaker 3: So it very cross when people yell at tariff is attacks.
Speaker 3: Is that too broad and simply simplified. No, no, No,
Speaker 3: it's a tax.
Speaker 1: Uh. The question is who pays it?
Speaker 2: And and again you got to go practically product by product.
Speaker 2: But in some cases the manufacturer in the fur and
Speaker 2: Land says, uh, you know, our profit margin is x.
Speaker 2: We could take a haircut of you know, two percent
Speaker 2: of our profits, and because we don't want to shock
Speaker 2: the consumers and the importer, the middleman says, you know, oh,
Speaker 2: I could probably lose one percent on this deal, and
Speaker 2: then the retailers gosh, dangn things are pretty tight here.
Speaker 2: I could probably nip off a half a percent and
Speaker 2: so the consumer pays very very little of the tax,
Speaker 2: at least initially. And there are other industries where they
Speaker 2: saw the tariffs coming and so they built enormous stockpiles
Speaker 2: both here and abroad of stuff that won't be tariffed
Speaker 2: because of the date it was brought into the duty
Speaker 2: free warehouser.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the technical term.
Speaker 2: But anyway, and that will change as the months go
Speaker 2: by and their inventory is depleted. So it's interesting. It's
Speaker 2: the reason it hasn't really hit inflation with us, you know,
Speaker 2: with serious impact so far, is because it takes a
Speaker 2: long time to play out.
Speaker 1: Because business people are smart.
Speaker 2: They do their best to not shock the consumer into
Speaker 2: what not buying their stuff.
Speaker 3: Here's Jonathan Turley's assessment. He's been following the whole thing today,
Speaker 3: and then we can move on sour. That's the guy
Speaker 3: with the horrible voice that I can't listen to is
Speaker 3: doing a brilliant job and fending off probing questions. While
Speaker 3: he might not win over some of these justices, he
Speaker 3: has been very nimble and stout in his defense. That's
Speaker 3: what we try to be. Nimble and stout.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every day, some days he's more nimble, I'm more
Speaker 2: stout some days, vice versa.
Speaker 3: You just got to see how you feel air day,
Speaker 3: nimble and stout. So I found this super interesting.
Speaker 2: And this is getting of course, because the media are
Speaker 2: lying biased jackasses. As interesting as this is, it's get
Speaker 2: no coverage. The debate dividing the Supreme Court's liberal justices
Speaker 2: Kagan and Jackson especially, are really at odds with each
Speaker 2: other because Justice Kagan, for all of my disagreement with
Speaker 2: heron a lot of policy, is very respectful of the
Speaker 2: traditions of the Court and understands how important it is
Speaker 2: that Supreme Court justices act like Supreme Court justices Angie
Speaker 2: Brown Jackson Shock, the youngest and most radical leftist of
Speaker 2: the justices.
Speaker 3: Who did the most talking last year, by far, the
Speaker 3: youngest newest justice did the most talking.
Speaker 1: You don't need anything happen a little life experience.
Speaker 2: Anybody with a little all life experience understands what we
Speaker 2: just said and what it means.
Speaker 1: Anyway, she believes that she should be an.
Speaker 2: Activist and talk to the press all the time and
Speaker 2: go outside the court and make strong statements and the
Speaker 2: rest of it, because she's going to preach to the people.
Speaker 2: And the Conservatives and Trump are accused of undermining our institutions,
Speaker 2: and they do sometimes honestly, right, but it's Trump who
Speaker 2: destroyed the Supreme Court.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: For years, Justice Kagan is agonized over whether to be
Speaker 2: more confrontational confidence and mostly concluded that to be a
Speaker 2: effective she must be careful about rocking the boat and
Speaker 2: just be as good at her job as she could
Speaker 2: possibly be, which is a very admirable stance. But in
Speaker 2: recent months, Justice kagan'st liberal Justice. I'm sorry, colleague Justice
Speaker 2: cab Age, I need to slow the hell down. Michael,
Speaker 2: tell me to slow the hell down. Oh that's right,
Speaker 2: you don't he down. Oh okay, you dropped an h
Speaker 2: bomb there. But in recent months, uh KBJ has started
Speaker 2: warning the public that the boat is sinking. In one
Speaker 2: opinion after another, Jackson has accused the right side of
Speaker 2: the Court of favoring moneyed interests and of complicity that
Speaker 2: enables our collective demise.
Speaker 1: Not because you're not supposed.
Speaker 2: To go at the other justice's motives and say they're
Speaker 2: bad people, that that decision only became came because they're
Speaker 2: greedy and they're kissing up to the money and interests.
Speaker 1: You don't do that, you moron.
Speaker 3: How do you think this ends? I'll tell you how
Speaker 3: it ends on how it ends, but i'll tell you
Speaker 3: what the next step is. Trump convinces whoever's running the
Speaker 3: Senate to do away with the filibuster, and then the
Speaker 3: Republicans next vacancy get through some red meat chucking firebrand
Speaker 3: justice who's on the Court who takes it even further,
Speaker 3: And then the Democrats do the same thing their next justice,
Speaker 3: and pretty soon the Supreme Court is like the House
Speaker 3: of Representatives or a panel on a cable show.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Final note at oral arguments is Jack indicating she's taken
Speaker 2: up far more speaking time than her colleagues even though
Speaker 2: she is the youngest and newest. Blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid to use my voice, she said in
Speaker 2: an eventual lapse.
Speaker 3: Al Right, ah, right, why don't you try being nimble
Speaker 3: and stout for a change.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what he said. I had enough of that. Now
Speaker 2: something different. Oh, the polymarkets, which are interesting in their
Speaker 2: ability to predict your giant global betting markets, give the
Speaker 2: administration only a thirty nine percent chance of victory. Oh really, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll keep an eye on that. See if they're right.
Speaker 2: It's an interesting thing, the wisdom of crowds. You heard
Speaker 2: of that, right, We'll see how well they predict this.
Speaker 3: It will be a pretty big deal that I've after
Speaker 3: all this tariff stuff for the past ten months. It'll
Speaker 3: be a oh, nevermind, I guess we can't do that.
Speaker 2: That's one of the administration's arguments which I do not
Speaker 2: find compelling, is hey, look, we've weaved this incredibly tangled web.
Speaker 1: You can undo it now. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, we'll see the movie Toy Story, a childhood classic.
Speaker 1: Either you watched it as a kid or your kids
Speaker 1: watched it. Almost wasn't what it.
Speaker 3: Was according to Tom Hanks, which is an interesting story among
Speaker 3: other things. On the way stay here. So Hansen texted
Speaker 3: us last night he was he's our executive producer, that
Speaker 3: he was at a junior high basketball game and when
Speaker 3: one of the teams hit the score sixty seven, everybody
Speaker 3: went berserk.
Speaker 1: And cheered increase.
Speaker 3: I got crazy, so I brought up that whole Oh
Speaker 3: that's what we were arguing with Groc about last night.
Speaker 3: So I asked myself about where'des six seventh thing start,
Speaker 3: do you know? And he said it was this kid
Speaker 3: on YouTube and he brought up the video. They were
Speaker 3: rooting for NBA player Lorenzo Ball, who's number of sixty seven, anyway,
Speaker 3: and they started just chairing six seven to this, and
Speaker 3: it somehow be caught on from there anyway, So I
Speaker 3: asked Groc about it, and she had some something from
Speaker 3: a rap song going way back, and Henry said, no,
Speaker 3: that's not right, and Groc said, actually it is. And
Speaker 3: then I said, don't interrupt her. Gro don't interrupt her, Henry,
Speaker 3: and he said, she's not her, it's an it. It's
Speaker 3: a computer, dad. And then I said, sorry, Groc, he
Speaker 3: should have interrupted you. Go on, and she said, that's
Speaker 3: all right, it happens, don't worry about it. And then
Speaker 3: she gave me the.
Speaker 1: Answer with a chuckle. With a chuckle, yes, she laughed
Speaker 1: like a good.
Speaker 3: Hearty laugh about how funny it was that my son
Speaker 3: and I were kind of having a little argument, and
Speaker 3: he interrupted, that's weird anyway.
Speaker 2: Gives me the same feeling like a alsman who's trying
Speaker 2: to be my best friend.
Speaker 1: Yes, gives me Yeah, right, I'm not a fool. Yes here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like it.
Speaker 3: Toy Story beloved movie. If you're of a certain age,
Speaker 3: you watched it as a kid. If you're older, your
Speaker 3: kids watched it. Here's Tom Hanks describing how almost wasn't
Speaker 3: what it was.
Speaker 7: Tim Allen and I and everybody involved in it. We
Speaker 7: recorded a toy Story movie for about eighty minutes of
Speaker 7: it that was completely thrown out a different story. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it was everything because the people who were running the studio,
Speaker 7: not Pixar, said look, it's a cartoon. Let's make them
Speaker 7: wise cracking, insult each other and come up with goofy things.
Speaker 1: It didn't work.
Speaker 7: It wasn't Toy Story, it wasn't what Pixar was going for.
Speaker 7: So we got one of those calls from John Lassiter.
Speaker 7: John called up and they said, hey, listen, we've looked
Speaker 7: at it and it's just not working, and we would
Speaker 7: like to start all over from scratch.
Speaker 1: How long had you.
Speaker 7: Been working We had been working on it for about
Speaker 7: two years. I would say about two years.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 7: So then we began the process all over again, which
Speaker 7: is about it two and a half to.
Speaker 1: Three year process.
Speaker 7: And there's gonna be another there's going to be a
Speaker 7: fifth toy story.
Speaker 3: Movements that's interesting. Two years in and they decided and
Speaker 3: his ain't working. Then started over and obviously one of
Speaker 3: the greatest kids movies of all time.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And but just by coincidence, when our kids were little,
Speaker 2: Andy in the movies was little, and as he grew,
Speaker 2: my kids were growing, and when he went off to
Speaker 2: college was right when I think one or both of
Speaker 2: my older kids were going off to college. And wholly
Speaker 2: counted that yank at the heartstrings those movies. But now
Speaker 2: it's all owned by the mouse, the giant, evil, befanged
Speaker 2: blood dripping from his greedy claws.
Speaker 1: Mouse that is. Disney probably has haunt careful.
Speaker 3: They have lawyers, many lawyers, so I shouldn't say that
Speaker 3: Mickey Mouse likely has Haunta.
Speaker 2: Man, It's funny, whether it's a movie or a song
Speaker 2: or whatever, sometimes you get to three quarters of the
Speaker 2: way through it and you realize, I have no why
Speaker 2: to you, why this isn't working, but it's not working.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where the real art comes in, and I'm
Speaker 3: fascinated by it. Some people are really good at figuring
Speaker 3: that out. We got a little more analysis of what
Speaker 3: happened across the country yesterday and all the things talk about.
Speaker 1: I hope you can stay here, armstrong and getty.
Speaker 6: After poking the bear, this bear roared with an unprecedented
Speaker 6: turnout in a special election with an extraordinary result.
Speaker 3: All Right, that's one of the problems with living in California.
Speaker 3: We got a head start on being tired of who
Speaker 3: might be the nominee for the Democrats for president, because
Speaker 3: it gets you get pretty tired of these people when
Speaker 3: you're running for president on TV every single day for
Speaker 3: two years.
Speaker 1: Even if you like them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're already tired them anyway. It's a big political win,
Speaker 3: no doubt for Gavin Newsom originally proposed. Everybody hated it,
Speaker 3: including Democrats. No, we're not going to put districting lines
Speaker 3: back in the hands of the politicians, but they framed
Speaker 3: it as being anti Trump, and so it won by
Speaker 3: like twenty five points yesterday. They're going to redistrict, they're
Speaker 3: going to re re and more. Extremely jerrymander California from
Speaker 3: what it already was, which was pretty jerryman which was
Speaker 3: pretty jerry mannered already. And now it's mentioning that the.
Speaker 2: Special interests of California, specifically the public employee unions, the
Speaker 2: trial lawyers unions in general, always turn out like crazy
Speaker 2: on off your elections. So if they really want to
Speaker 2: get dirty work done, they'll do it in these kind
Speaker 2: of weird off your elections. Yeah, because the generalized taxpayer
Speaker 2: interested voter in California just doesn't turn out.
Speaker 3: The on purpose irony is that is pitched as saving democracy,
Speaker 3: and it's like the worst thing you could do for democracy.
Speaker 3: The more gerrymandering you have, the less democracy. Anyway, here's
Speaker 3: Gavin Newsom, who has really leapt to the top of
Speaker 3: the list of likely nominees for president for the Democratic
Speaker 3: Party after yesterday gloating Donald.
Speaker 6: Trump called up the Border Patrol, sent them to Dodger
Speaker 6: Stadium and through a fastball at free speech, right of
Speaker 6: the head free expression to suppress the vote in America's
Speaker 6: second largest city.
Speaker 1: Just did that today, people.
Speaker 6: In tactical gears sent out to intimidate a community that
Speaker 6: is all ready on edge. But you see as we speak,
Speaker 6: people are still in line, people waiting up three hours
Speaker 6: to cast their vote, to send a message to Donald Trump.
Speaker 6: No crowns, no thrones, no kings. That's what this victory represents,
Speaker 6: is a victory for the people of the state of
Speaker 6: California and the United States of America.
Speaker 1: The vomited.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have the chops to win the presidency unless
Speaker 2: the Republicans really cough up a loser.
Speaker 1: No crowns, thorns, no kings. Johnald Trump, Jernald Trump. Johnald
Speaker 1: Trump said tactical gears. He didn't get everything right in that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just populist politics wear me out.
Speaker 3: Well, we're going more that direction. See zorn man, dummy mom, dummy.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: Don It's actually not right.
Speaker 2: The Democratic Socialists of America more radical than ever and
Speaker 2: they're winning.
Speaker 1: Next hour.
Speaker 3: Just see my favorite I just saw my favorite tweet
Speaker 3: of the day. This is from It doesn't really matter
Speaker 3: who it's from, but it's from Molly Hemingway. She's a pundit.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter her tweet is The guy next to
Speaker 3: me in line at Starbucks is friends with Tom Sellick,
Speaker 3: and I'm super excited to hear his stories.
Speaker 2: Wow, Wow, How in the world.
Speaker 3: Did that come up in conversation? Is this the sort
Speaker 3: of guy that goes around and will just offer it
Speaker 3: up out of nowhere? The fact that he's friends with
Speaker 3: Tom Sellick?
Speaker 1: Right right? How do you know somebody went to Harvard?
Speaker 3: They'll tell you, how do you know somebody's friends with
Speaker 3: Tom's like, that's not normally the way a friend of
Speaker 3: a celebrity acts is that you go around and tell baby,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm friends with whoever?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: I mean, granted, sometimes you got to cool your heels
Speaker 2: for a little bit waiting for your order in a Starbucks, But.
Speaker 1: How the heck did that come out? Yeah? How did
Speaker 1: it come up?
Speaker 3: Where did the conversation go that got to what celebrities
Speaker 3: do you happen to know? Funny you ask, I'm friends
Speaker 3: with Tom Sellick. And then the next part, I'm super
Speaker 3: excited to hear his stories. I'm super excited. Here's another
Speaker 3: thing I know about my friend Tom Sewick.
Speaker 2: He has two I take here myself saying, wow, that's
Speaker 2: that's great. I tell you what else he ought to
Speaker 2: know about Tom is he has two dogs. I'm like, wow, yeah,
Speaker 2: I like dogs too. I tell you what a great
Speaker 2: sense of humor too. One day, Tom and I were
Speaker 2: on the golf course and I'm thinking, oh, for God's sake,
Speaker 2: please call Joe, Please call Joe so I can get
Speaker 2: out of here.
Speaker 1: His mustache was even better in person.
Speaker 2: But Molly is quote super excited to hear the stories
Speaker 2: that each thero own. I guess, I don't you know.
Speaker 2: I just I'm not super into actors. If somebody, if
Speaker 2: somehow I fell into a conversation with somebody who's like
Speaker 2: a longtime friend of Tiger Woods or Phil Mickelson or
Speaker 2: something like that, yeah, I'd be interested. I'd want to
Speaker 2: hear the stories. I gotta admit it. Okay, each their own,
Speaker 2: I suppose.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess you're right, if you're being fair, you
Speaker 1: have your own. But it's gotta be I don't know,
Speaker 1: I have to have some interest to it. Really. Bob
Speaker 1: Dylan's got two dogs on to Biaomadean, so I uh.
Speaker 2: I could go on and on for hours and hours
Speaker 2: about Zoron Mamdami's victory and the Democratic Socialists of America
Speaker 2: and how socialism slides inevitably into totalitarianism and death and horror.
Speaker 1: Doesn't sound very entertaining, does it?
Speaker 2: Just happen to read an unbelievable piece of writing.
Speaker 1: I didn't finish it. It's long.
Speaker 2: It's a problem with the internet. Bag in the day,
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, youngsters. Back in the day, there's
Speaker 2: a limit to how much you could put in the
Speaker 2: newspaper because it had to fit in a little tube, right,
Speaker 2: and so we had to head it.
Speaker 1: But what the Internet, It doesn't matter. Every freaking thing
Speaker 1: you can.
Speaker 2: Somebody asks you, hey, is it's supposed to rain tomorrow?
Speaker 2: You get ten thousand words. This happened right exactly, with
Speaker 2: ten thousand words per link.
Speaker 1: Right. In addition, if you have literally nothing else to do,
Speaker 1: this guy was about Okay, this guy.
Speaker 2: I was writing about a movie was a springboard a
Speaker 2: movie about this topic. But the pole Pot regime in Cambodia,
Speaker 2: the Khmer Rouge, which if you're not familiar with it,
Speaker 2: was a communist regime. It came to power making all
Speaker 2: of the standard promises of socialism slash Marxism slash communism,
Speaker 2: which are often disguising themselves as one or the other,
Speaker 2: even though they're all communists. And how inevitably central planning
Speaker 2: means central control, and to control people you have to
Speaker 2: hurt them, and if they continue to resist, you have
Speaker 2: to kill them, especially because you have to kill lots
Speaker 2: and lots of people before people of good conscience stop resisting,
Speaker 2: You have to terrorize them into submission. And I remember
Speaker 2: because I was a weird little kid, and I read
Speaker 2: the news magazines that we got in our house every
Speaker 2: single week, and the full horror of the Khmer Rouge
Speaker 2: in Cambodia was, you know, in those magazines. So it
Speaker 2: I was like, really weirdly aware of this as an
Speaker 2: eleven twelve year old because it was in the seventies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but pol Pot.
Speaker 2: And his Khmer Rouge regime ended up killing off twenty
Speaker 2: five percent of the population, worked them to death, tortured
Speaker 2: them to death, executed them to the point that the
Speaker 2: rain would fall, and all over this region around the
Speaker 2: airport that was never finished. When the rain would fall,
Speaker 2: the bones would come up through the ground because they
Speaker 2: had killed so many people. And you know, I don't
Speaker 2: think every you know, a person who wants free bus
Speaker 2: rides going to end up being whole pot.
Speaker 1: That the difficulty is.
Speaker 2: And we've argued many times on this show that not
Speaker 2: every slope is slippery, but the difficulty is given the
Speaker 2: amount of dishonesty in Marxism, and Jack, I know you
Speaker 2: can talk about this at length. How the Marxist Leninists
Speaker 2: in the early days they thought the working class were
Speaker 2: too stupid to get it, and so they would dupe
Speaker 2: or force them into the paradise.
Speaker 1: That that would be unleashed.
Speaker 2: But anyway, to stop parenthetical thoughts and get to my
Speaker 2: own damn point. The problem with all of this stuff
Speaker 2: is that by the time you realize it's no longer
Speaker 2: step A or B, you're indeed at step F.
Speaker 1: You can't go back anymore.
Speaker 2: They've got too tight a hold on society and too
Speaker 2: much control, and they can really really hurt people to
Speaker 2: make them conform. And so when I see a guy
Speaker 2: like Mamdani who's not only an avowed democratic socialist and
Speaker 2: what those people believe next hour in their own words,
Speaker 2: I believe him to be something of an Islamist as well.
Speaker 2: I can guarantee you his rhetoric is a cleansed version,
Speaker 2: a sanitized version of what he really thinks and wants.
Speaker 2: And that's what bothers me so much about his election,
Speaker 2: knowing where this sort of thing ends.
Speaker 1: You know, Tom Sellig likes his coffee skim milk.
Speaker 2: Oh God, would you please stop talking to me. I've
Speaker 2: looked at my phone, I've pretended to take a call.
Speaker 2: You're still telling me about Tom Sellick.
Speaker 1: Please stop.
Speaker 3: I acted like I don't understand English, and you still
Speaker 3: keep telling me about Tom Selleck.
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Speaker 1: I mentioned this earlier.
Speaker 3: CBS That Today is doing a feature about this popular
Speaker 3: AI singer that apparently has a couple of hits, whatever
Speaker 3: hits are anymore, And I don't I can't quite wrap
Speaker 3: my head around what they're doing here. They're interviewing somebody
Speaker 3: who told Grock have a hot young black chick sing
Speaker 3: this song as the creator of a popular AI singer,
Speaker 3: they wrote the lyrics, but Sila person is just I
Speaker 3: don't know. If you've messed around with AI, you can
Speaker 3: make an attractive we're unattractive.
Speaker 1: You can make anything you want. It's very easy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who are they interviewing the person not a creator
Speaker 2: of the popular AI singer.
Speaker 1: But it is an art form in a real weird way.
Speaker 2: But it'll have a very very short shelf life because
Speaker 2: anybody can do it right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't get it. I think it might be
Speaker 1: a show run by old people for old people, completely
Speaker 1: not understanding what's going on here? Thing go okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're calling it the worst political memoir in history,
Speaker 2: the KJP Memoir and hilariously obsurdic review of it coming up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We read the kicking it took from The New York
Speaker 3: Times last week, which was pretty funny.
Speaker 1: Oof. Stay tuned.
Speaker 3: Karine Jean Pierre KJP, as she is known, White House
Speaker 3: Press spokesman in the Biden administration, got a new book
Speaker 3: out last week. We read the review from the New
Speaker 3: York Times, which was scathing, I mean brutal.
Speaker 2: I must quibble. She's the she was the press secretary.
Speaker 2: That is a cabinet level post. I didn't know that,
Speaker 2: Biden administration your cabinet level.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Andrew Styles of the Free Beacon, who is absolutely
Speaker 2: brilliant and hilarious, has written a lengthy piece.
Speaker 1: I'm going to hit you with some of it, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to drop down to toward the end. This
Speaker 1: summerizes it nicely.
Speaker 2: Independent, which is the ballsy title of the book. It's
Speaker 2: got a long subtitle, is, which is both mercifully brief
Speaker 2: and intolerably long, defies credulity at every turn. Well, the
Speaker 2: subtitle is important because it's like my tales from a
Speaker 2: broken White House or whatever.
Speaker 1: It mentions a broken White House.
Speaker 3: And then when the New York magazine asked her about
Speaker 3: you know, we'll tell us some tales from the broken
Speaker 3: white House, you know, the Biden administration, you're behind the scenes,
Speaker 3: she said, Oh, I meant the Trump white House, right what,
Speaker 3: you don't have any tales from the you weren't in
Speaker 3: the Trump white House.
Speaker 2: The title of the book is Independent, a look inside
Speaker 2: a broken White House outside the party lines.
Speaker 3: But she doesn't have any tales from the broken White House.
Speaker 3: She's still claiming that Joe Biden's perfectly fine and could
Speaker 3: have been president for more years than blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: Well, as Andrew writes, KJP can't stop making history. Earlier
Speaker 2: this year, the former White House Press secretary became the
Speaker 2: highest ranking openly queer French born black woman with a
Speaker 2: hyphenated surname to publicly renounce the Democratic Party for being
Speaker 2: mean to Joe Biden. She is the only black, female,
Speaker 2: lesbian immigrant to publish a book about her time in
Speaker 2: the Biden administration. It is the worst political memoir ever
Speaker 2: written in the history of the English language. This is
Speaker 2: not hyperbole. It's an especially vacuous genre and highly competitive,
Speaker 2: to be sure, But imagine writing a book so bad
Speaker 2: it could shame Democrats and liberals into second guessing their
Speaker 2: cult like devotion to DEI.
Speaker 1: That's what she's done with his book.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, Jean Pierre's promotion of the wh
Speaker 2: Press secretary was hailed by Democrats and journalists to the
Speaker 2: extent there's a difference as a triumph for diversity and representation,
Speaker 2: and it's worth pointing out that on the Armstrong and
Speaker 2: Getty Show, for every single second we were saying what
Speaker 2: the left is now saying. After years of angrily shouting
Speaker 2: that it wasn't true, she is now widely viewed, in
Speaker 2: the words of a reporter who worked with her quote
Speaker 2: as the most incompetent and irrelevant White House Press secretary ever.
Speaker 2: Former colleagues describer as quote ineffectual, unprepared, and kind of
Speaker 2: dumb oooh. Looking back on the Great Awokening of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, can't help but marvel at what Jean Pierre
Speaker 2: has managed to achieve. Democrats are finally starting to connect
Speaker 2: the dots, casting KJP as a cautionary to of what
Speaker 2: happens when desired to make history takes precedence over everything else,
Speaker 2: said a Zai Jelani, a former blogger at the left
Speaker 2: wing Center for American Progress, which is influential on the left.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 2: If Democrats really want to help minorities, they have to
Speaker 2: stop defending incompetence. Karine Jean Pierre was never good at
Speaker 2: her job, and it took progressives four years to admit it.
Speaker 2: It's remarkably Jean Pierre's book tour, if you can call it, that,
Speaker 2: has been described as a car crash of non stop cringe.
Speaker 2: She fumbles her way through interviews, repeatedly invoking her lived
Speaker 2: experience as a trailblazing black woman, openly gave pioneer the
Speaker 2: same people who celebrated her historic promotion, and the first
Speaker 2: to denounce people like us as her as bigots are
Speaker 2: now rolling their eyes quote every time she falls back
Speaker 2: on identity politics. Instead of actually answering questions, she reinforces
Speaker 2: the worst stereotypes about Democrats. A former White House colleague
Speaker 2: told Politico, it's truly remarkable and your reference Jack her
Speaker 2: egregious performance in an interview with the New Yorkers Isaac Chotner.
Speaker 2: And we're talking about the freaking New Yorker here, folks,
Speaker 2: We're not talking about, you know, sitting down with Rush
Speaker 2: Limbaugh when he still graced the earth, was his presence
Speaker 2: or even the Wall Street Journal? Was the New Yorker anyway.
Speaker 2: One Democratic strategist liking dandum Mike Tyson fighting a baby.
Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't be a fair fight, not a joke.
Speaker 1: The baby wouldn't have a chance.
Speaker 2: It's forced many liberals to embrace the possibility that John
Speaker 2: Pierrot was utterly unqualified for a job.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 2: This is a liberal journalist, Jordan Weisman. I don't recall
Speaker 2: her ever transforming into a dervish of complete nonsense like
Speaker 2: this on the podium.
Speaker 1: But maybe I wasn't paying close enough attention.
Speaker 2: Fact Jack, he clearly wasn't paying attention because she's always
Speaker 2: been like this.
Speaker 3: H and The New York Times mentioned in their review
Speaker 3: that they called her for explanation for some of her claims,
Speaker 3: and she wasn't able to talk to him. She turned
Speaker 3: down being interviewed by The New York Times about her
Speaker 3: book because she knew she couldn't answer the questions of like,
Speaker 3: what do you mean inside a broken white House? You're
Speaker 3: talking about the Trump White House. You didn't work in
Speaker 3: the Trump White House. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: How doesn't make any sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it calls breaking up. So it's both mercifully brief
Speaker 2: at one hundred and seventy two pages and intolerably long,
Speaker 2: defies credulity at every turn. KJP claims she never noticed
Speaker 2: Biden's cognitive decline despite meeting with him at least once
Speaker 2: a day for two and a half years. Her observations
Speaker 2: reflect an alarming disconnect with.
Speaker 1: Reality, and he goes into Martinez.
Speaker 3: But she kind of has to do that or she'd
Speaker 3: be the least patriotic person in America if she was
Speaker 3: supposed to admit. Oh, yeah, I saw him every single day.
Speaker 3: He wasn't capable of being president. His brain hardly worked.
Speaker 3: I just kept my mouth shut because I thought I
Speaker 3: was supposed to.
Speaker 1: Our politics are so broken, Yes, it is, it can't.
Speaker 3: It's very difficult to figure out how it would improve
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