WEBVTT - Nimble & Stout 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:06.160 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 0:00:06.200 --> 0:00:10.760 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty arm Strong 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:17.640 and Jetty and he Armstrong and Yetty. 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.400 And finally I heard about a man in France who 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:29.159 fell into a ravine and survived for three days on 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.239 nothing but red wine, or as we call it here 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:32.720 in America. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:33.360 Thanksgiving. 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:37.360 Hey, now I'm looking up at the TV. They're having 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:41.760 a little discussion about AI music and the idea that, 0:00:42.320 --> 0:00:45.440 you know, who does anybody own the right so that 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:46.360 or who owns the right set? 0:00:46.520 --> 0:00:47.440 I never thought about that. 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:51.160 But with some of your formulaic pop music, like country music, 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:55.280 for instance, since it's all really close to the same anyway, 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:58.320 why would record companies. 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:01.360 Need to pay anyone anything? 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:04.479 Why would you need to have a writer who gets 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.080 some of the money, or of course nobody's getting any money. Now. 0:01:07.080 --> 0:01:09.959 It's all about the touring, right and you need that 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:12.319 human being up on stage. 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:14.840 To promote the song, to go on Saturday Night Live 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.520 and sing it on or whatever are you right, and 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:22.480 then sell concert tickets anyway? Right now, Washington, d C. 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:27.160 The Supreme Court, the justices, the barobued justices are doing 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:29.600 the whole oral arguments thing over whether or not Trump 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.320 has got the power to lay tariffs on all these 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.760 different countries around the world and up end of the 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:41.480 world economy is one guy. It just seems like to me, 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:43.760 without knowing any of the law, it just doesn't seem 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.280 like the way the system out of work. 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:49.840 Right, as an actual conservative as opposed to a I 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:55.160 support everything Trump does, character it's troubling that much executive power. 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.800 Yeah, and so the voices you're gonna hear are gonna 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:01.080 hear the lawyer representing Trump's point of view that yes, 0:02:01.120 --> 0:02:03.360 he does have the power, and the female voice is 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.520 Amy Cony Barrett, the conservative justice the Trump appointed. 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:06.920 Here we go. 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.120 Okay, okay, so an intermediate appellate court held at Intuia. 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:13.120 But you just told Justice Kavanaugh that wasn't your lead argument. 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:13.880 That your lead. 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:17.079 Argument was this long history of the phrase regulate importation 0:02:17.280 --> 0:02:20.600 being understood to include terrorf authority. So my question is, 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.560 has there ever been another instance in which a statute 0:02:23.639 --> 0:02:26.639 has conferred used that language to confer the power. 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:28.160 Well, putting aside just cheetah, I. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:30.960 Mean, actually the other statutory example that just the imports. 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:32.959 The cases we rely on our cases where, for example, 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:34.560 and Gibbons is ogged in and Justice story. 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.720 See that just shows the word can be used that way. 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.680 None of those cases talked about it as conferring teriff authority. 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:44.920 I understood you to be citing McGoldrick and Gibbons and 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:47.799 those cases just to show that it's possible to say 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:50.720 that regulating commerce includes the power to tire. 0:02:51.680 --> 0:02:53.079 I think our argument goes a bit further than that 0:02:53.160 --> 0:02:55.720 as interpretive matter, because if you look at that history, 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:58.560 the history of delis is just answered the justices question. 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.560 Con you identify any statute that use that phrase to 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:03.040 confert her. 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:03.280 Yeah. 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:05.800 The only two statutes I can identify now are tweya 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.960 as interpreted in Yoshida and then closely related, not regular importation, 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.119 but but just imports. 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:15.880 In section two, that was the chicks before Styx, you know, 0:03:16.320 --> 0:03:18.320 jumping up there and saying, hey, don't let some dude 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.400 man splain answer her question. 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.119 Says the other chow Yes. 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:26.520 The other chick may have been Justice Soda my Oar 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.959 standing up for Amy Cony Barrett, which is kind of 0:03:29.960 --> 0:03:33.519 an interesting dynamic now that you bring it up. Coming up, 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:38.480 there's a real bitter debate dividing the Supreme Court's liberal 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.840 justices right now, what fuck? 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:42.160 Yeah, I was just one of your all? 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:45.480 Was that a I'm jumping in here because my fellow 0:03:45.640 --> 0:03:48.280 female justice isn't getting your question answered. 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.040 They don't have the patience with the rambling. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:54.400 They don't have the same politics, although they might on 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:55.080 this issue. 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:56.760 It's conceivable. 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:00.000 Yeah, very very very consumable. You know, I didn't understand. 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.600 And the vast majority of that I'd forgotten. The voice 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:04.680 of that dude whatever his name is, that represents Trump 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.520 and all these things, ee John Sour. He's hard to 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:13.400 listen to. Terrible types the CNN, you know, little words. 0:04:13.440 --> 0:04:16.839 The bottom of the screen. Conceptualization of this was Chief 0:04:17.040 --> 0:04:22.039 Justice Roberts and conservative Barrett pick a part Trump administration's 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:25.919 arguments on sweeping terror authority. Although that's fairly vague that 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:26.480 that's what you do. 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:27.200 You pick upart. 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:31.360 Arguments, doesn't mean you didn't believe them, were like them, right, 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.560 Maybe you worth at least a few seconds on the 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:37.559 fact that often Supreme Court justices will try to find 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:41.320 flaws in their own arguments, which is really a pretty 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.240 good thing for all of us to do if we're 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.640 trying to be serious about having good, strong ideas and philosophies, 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.040 but they want to see if the other council can 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:52.280 point out a weakness in their own argument, so they 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:54.840 can either come up with a way to strengthen their 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:58.000 argument or realize maybe I'm not right, because no justice 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:00.400 wants to write an opinion and then be post at 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:01.919 having missed a major point. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:02.240 Right. 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.320 That's my favorite thing about the orl arguments is that 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.640 every time they come up, all smart people say you 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:09.000 cannot tell anything from the arguments, and then we go 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.640 back to listening to the arguments, trying to deduce what 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:12.480 we think it's. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.680 Happening, having just stated that you can tell but that's what. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:21.240 Well, No, I must quibble with your characterization that you 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.440 can't tell anything from it. But you're right. You got 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.320 to take it all with a grain of salt. You 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.920 get clues, and clues are not proof. 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:30.839 So I think this. Here's the next one. 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:34.040 This is John Roberts, the Chief Justice, also a conservative, 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:35.400 questioning Trump's lawyer. 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.000 No, it's not or less. They're more or less a 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.239 conservative more or less? Yeah, gotcha? 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:46.080 Okay, if a cariff is imposed on they're automobiles, who 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:48.920 pays them? There's a they're Typically there'd be a regardless 0:05:48.920 --> 0:05:50.880 who the importer of record is, there'd be a contract 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:52.839 that would go along the sort of line of transfer 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:56.240 that would allocate the tariff, and there'd be different Sometimes 0:05:56.279 --> 0:05:59.400 that foreign the foreign producer would pay them. Sometimes the 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.760 importer bear the cost. The importer could be an American, 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.480 could be a foreign company. A lot of times it's 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:06.960 a wholly owned American subsidiary of a foreign corporation, so 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.560 it gets allocated. The pure blossom has ranged from like 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:10.920 thirty percent to eighty percent of. 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:12.680 Like how much is born by I mean, it's been 0:06:12.760 --> 0:06:16.359 suggested that the tariffs are responsible for significant reduction in 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:17.040 our deficit. 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.640 I would say that's raising revenue domestically. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.240 There certainly is an incident on collateral effect to the 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:24.800 terraffs that they do raise revenue, But it's very important 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.560 that they are regulatory terrafts, not revenue raising terraces. 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:28.480 Hmmm. 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:33.479 That's interesting. From the politics of it, Trump has been 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:36.559 pushing it as a big revenue maker for a long time. 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.960 Yes, slicing lee the illegal argument a bit thin. 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:43.960 Can I get somebody whose voice doesn't make it so distracting? 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:45.880 I can't even really pay attention to what he's saying. 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:46.680 Would that be possible. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.280 I know that's not fair and it may make us idiots, 0:06:50.320 --> 0:06:54.440 but it's like RFK, Junior, get a spokesper person, please, 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:58.040 or even like an AI program or a parrot or something. 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.719 You just and I'm sorry you have the condition in 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:01.840 your voice. Is not your fault. 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:03.560 No, it's not your fault. You're probably a brilliant laurier. 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.880 But I can't listen to you right. Ah, it would 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:10.000 be an interesting idea, he whispered in the pariser, and 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.480 then the parent recite recites what you just said to it. 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:16.240 Because I have no life, I spent a bunch of 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:20.320 time reading about who is actually paying the tariffs, and 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:24.000 it varies product to product, substance to substance if we're 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:25.640 talking about like a raw material. 0:07:25.400 --> 0:07:28.880 So it very cross when people yell at tariff is attacks. 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:32.920 Is that too broad and simply simplified. No, no, No, 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:33.520 it's a tax. 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:35.760 Uh. The question is who pays it? 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.240 And and again you got to go practically product by product. 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:43.080 But in some cases the manufacturer in the fur and 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:50.600 Land says, uh, you know, our profit margin is x. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.680 We could take a haircut of you know, two percent 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.920 of our profits, and because we don't want to shock 0:07:56.000 --> 0:08:00.320 the consumers and the importer, the middleman says, you know, oh, 0:08:00.400 --> 0:08:03.760 I could probably lose one percent on this deal, and 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:07.760 then the retailers gosh, dangn things are pretty tight here. 0:08:07.920 --> 0:08:10.600 I could probably nip off a half a percent and 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:14.239 so the consumer pays very very little of the tax, 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:18.200 at least initially. And there are other industries where they 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:22.200 saw the tariffs coming and so they built enormous stockpiles 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:25.600 both here and abroad of stuff that won't be tariffed 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:27.840 because of the date it was brought into the duty 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:28.560 free warehouser. 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.120 I can't remember the technical term. 0:08:30.000 --> 0:08:32.440 But anyway, and that will change as the months go 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:37.920 by and their inventory is depleted. So it's interesting. It's 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:42.360 the reason it hasn't really hit inflation with us, you know, 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.240 with serious impact so far, is because it takes a 0:08:46.240 --> 0:08:47.280 long time to play out. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:49.480 Because business people are smart. 0:08:49.520 --> 0:08:52.360 They do their best to not shock the consumer into 0:08:52.559 --> 0:08:55.120 what not buying their stuff. 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.000 Here's Jonathan Turley's assessment. He's been following the whole thing today, 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:01.880 and then we can move on sour. That's the guy 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:05.400 with the horrible voice that I can't listen to is 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:08.880 doing a brilliant job and fending off probing questions. While 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.440 he might not win over some of these justices, he 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.320 has been very nimble and stout in his defense. That's 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:16.720 what we try to be. Nimble and stout. 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:19.640 Yeah, every day, some days he's more nimble, I'm more 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.120 stout some days, vice versa. 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:23.080 You just got to see how you feel air day, 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:26.720 nimble and stout. So I found this super interesting. 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:29.079 And this is getting of course, because the media are 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:33.680 lying biased jackasses. As interesting as this is, it's get 0:09:33.720 --> 0:09:38.360 no coverage. The debate dividing the Supreme Court's liberal justices 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:44.680 Kagan and Jackson especially, are really at odds with each 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:49.200 other because Justice Kagan, for all of my disagreement with 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:53.320 heron a lot of policy, is very respectful of the 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.000 traditions of the Court and understands how important it is 0:09:56.160 --> 0:10:00.320 that Supreme Court justices act like Supreme Court justices Angie 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:04.760 Brown Jackson Shock, the youngest and most radical leftist of 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:06.839 the justices. 0:10:06.520 --> 0:10:10.720 Who did the most talking last year, by far, the 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:13.640 youngest newest justice did the most talking. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.080 You don't need anything happen a little life experience. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.480 Anybody with a little all life experience understands what we 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:23.640 just said and what it means. 0:10:24.200 --> 0:10:28.040 Anyway, she believes that she should be an. 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.200 Activist and talk to the press all the time and 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.600 go outside the court and make strong statements and the 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.440 rest of it, because she's going to preach to the people. 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:46.439 And the Conservatives and Trump are accused of undermining our institutions, 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:49.480 and they do sometimes honestly, right, but it's Trump who 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:50.679 destroyed the Supreme Court. 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:52.439 Yeah yeah. 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:56.240 For years, Justice Kagan is agonized over whether to be 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.880 more confrontational confidence and mostly concluded that to be a 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.720 effective she must be careful about rocking the boat and 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:04.480 just be as good at her job as she could 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.680 possibly be, which is a very admirable stance. But in 0:11:07.720 --> 0:11:11.760 recent months, Justice kagan'st liberal Justice. I'm sorry, colleague Justice 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:16.800 cab Age, I need to slow the hell down. Michael, 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:18.719 tell me to slow the hell down. Oh that's right, 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:22.080 you don't he down. Oh okay, you dropped an h 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:26.800 bomb there. But in recent months, uh KBJ has started 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.439 warning the public that the boat is sinking. In one 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:32.240 opinion after another, Jackson has accused the right side of 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.800 the Court of favoring moneyed interests and of complicity that 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:37.480 enables our collective demise. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.880 Not because you're not supposed. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.600 To go at the other justice's motives and say they're 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:48.200 bad people, that that decision only became came because they're 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.440 greedy and they're kissing up to the money and interests. 0:11:50.559 --> 0:11:52.439 You don't do that, you moron. 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.679 How do you think this ends? I'll tell you how 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.079 it ends on how it ends, but i'll tell you 0:11:57.120 --> 0:12:01.000 what the next step is. Trump convinces whoever's running the 0:12:01.000 --> 0:12:03.760 Senate to do away with the filibuster, and then the 0:12:03.800 --> 0:12:09.559 Republicans next vacancy get through some red meat chucking firebrand 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:11.880 justice who's on the Court who takes it even further, 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:14.920 And then the Democrats do the same thing their next justice, 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.760 and pretty soon the Supreme Court is like the House 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:20.360 of Representatives or a panel on a cable show. 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:21.160 Right. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:25.160 Final note at oral arguments is Jack indicating she's taken 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:27.720 up far more speaking time than her colleagues even though 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:31.200 she is the youngest and newest. Blah blah blah blah. 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:33.920 I'm not afraid to use my voice, she said in 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:34.959 an eventual lapse. 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:39.559 Al Right, ah, right, why don't you try being nimble 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:40.720 and stout for a change. 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:44.640 Yeah, what he said. I had enough of that. Now 0:12:44.720 --> 0:12:48.319 something different. Oh, the polymarkets, which are interesting in their 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:53.200 ability to predict your giant global betting markets, give the 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:58.880 administration only a thirty nine percent chance of victory. Oh really, Yeah, 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.640 we'll keep an eye on that. See if they're right. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:03.280 It's an interesting thing, the wisdom of crowds. You heard 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.960 of that, right, We'll see how well they predict this. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:07.600 It will be a pretty big deal that I've after 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:11.760 all this tariff stuff for the past ten months. It'll 0:13:11.760 --> 0:13:14.440 be a oh, nevermind, I guess we can't do that. 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.840 That's one of the administration's arguments which I do not 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:22.040 find compelling, is hey, look, we've weaved this incredibly tangled web. 0:13:22.160 --> 0:13:24.320 You can undo it now. Yeah. 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:28.720 Well, we'll see the movie Toy Story, a childhood classic. 0:13:28.760 --> 0:13:30.520 Either you watched it as a kid or your kids 0:13:30.520 --> 0:13:32.560 watched it. Almost wasn't what it. 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.200 Was according to Tom Hanks, which is an interesting story among 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:42.440 other things. On the way stay here. So Hansen texted 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.720 us last night he was he's our executive producer, that 0:13:44.760 --> 0:13:47.520 he was at a junior high basketball game and when 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:51.920 one of the teams hit the score sixty seven, everybody 0:13:52.000 --> 0:13:52.960 went berserk. 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:53.440 And cheered increase. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:56.800 I got crazy, so I brought up that whole Oh 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.040 that's what we were arguing with Groc about last night. 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.960 So I asked myself about where'des six seventh thing start, 0:14:02.040 --> 0:14:03.960 do you know? And he said it was this kid 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:07.600 on YouTube and he brought up the video. They were 0:14:07.760 --> 0:14:12.040 rooting for NBA player Lorenzo Ball, who's number of sixty seven, anyway, 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.160 and they started just chairing six seven to this, and 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:18.680 it somehow be caught on from there anyway, So I 0:14:18.720 --> 0:14:22.120 asked Groc about it, and she had some something from 0:14:22.120 --> 0:14:25.440 a rap song going way back, and Henry said, no, 0:14:25.560 --> 0:14:29.120 that's not right, and Groc said, actually it is. And 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.960 then I said, don't interrupt her. Gro don't interrupt her, Henry, 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:35.520 and he said, she's not her, it's an it. It's 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:40.360 a computer, dad. And then I said, sorry, Groc, he 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.280 should have interrupted you. Go on, and she said, that's 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.720 all right, it happens, don't worry about it. And then 0:14:44.760 --> 0:14:45.600 she gave me the. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:48.640 Answer with a chuckle. With a chuckle, yes, she laughed 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:49.640 like a good. 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:51.760 Hearty laugh about how funny it was that my son 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:53.280 and I were kind of having a little argument, and 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.880 he interrupted, that's weird anyway. 0:14:58.120 --> 0:15:00.880 Gives me the same feeling like a alsman who's trying 0:15:00.880 --> 0:15:02.000 to be my best friend. 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:06.960 Yes, gives me Yeah, right, I'm not a fool. Yes here, Yeah, 0:15:07.040 --> 0:15:07.640 I don't like it. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:12.400 Toy Story beloved movie. If you're of a certain age, 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.120 you watched it as a kid. If you're older, your 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:18.440 kids watched it. Here's Tom Hanks describing how almost wasn't 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:18.920 what it was. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.200 Tim Allen and I and everybody involved in it. We 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:26.240 recorded a toy Story movie for about eighty minutes of 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.000 it that was completely thrown out a different story. Yeah, 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.680 it was everything because the people who were running the studio, 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.360 not Pixar, said look, it's a cartoon. Let's make them 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.640 wise cracking, insult each other and come up with goofy things. 0:15:37.880 --> 0:15:38.560 It didn't work. 0:15:38.640 --> 0:15:40.800 It wasn't Toy Story, it wasn't what Pixar was going for. 0:15:41.000 --> 0:15:43.560 So we got one of those calls from John Lassiter. 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:46.160 John called up and they said, hey, listen, we've looked 0:15:46.160 --> 0:15:49.200 at it and it's just not working, and we would 0:15:49.240 --> 0:15:51.760 like to start all over from scratch. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:52.760 How long had you. 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.280 Been working We had been working on it for about 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:56.200 two years. I would say about two years. 0:15:56.200 --> 0:15:56.760 Wow. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:59.440 So then we began the process all over again, which 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:00.840 is about it two and a half to. 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:01.800 Three year process. 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.520 And there's gonna be another there's going to be a 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:04.720 fifth toy story. 0:16:04.520 --> 0:16:10.600 Movements that's interesting. Two years in and they decided and 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.200 his ain't working. Then started over and obviously one of 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.600 the greatest kids movies of all time. 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:17.360 Yeah. 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:21.040 Yeah, And but just by coincidence, when our kids were little, 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.880 Andy in the movies was little, and as he grew, 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:25.920 my kids were growing, and when he went off to 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.960 college was right when I think one or both of 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.800 my older kids were going off to college. And wholly 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:36.040 counted that yank at the heartstrings those movies. But now 0:16:36.040 --> 0:16:39.800 it's all owned by the mouse, the giant, evil, befanged 0:16:40.240 --> 0:16:42.600 blood dripping from his greedy claws. 0:16:43.040 --> 0:16:47.760 Mouse that is. Disney probably has haunt careful. 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:51.560 They have lawyers, many lawyers, so I shouldn't say that 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:53.720 Mickey Mouse likely has Haunta. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.280 Man, It's funny, whether it's a movie or a song 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.280 or whatever, sometimes you get to three quarters of the 0:16:58.320 --> 0:17:00.280 way through it and you realize, I have no why 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:02.440 to you, why this isn't working, but it's not working. 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:03.280 Yeah. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:06.000 Yeah, that's where the real art comes in, and I'm 0:17:06.080 --> 0:17:08.760 fascinated by it. Some people are really good at figuring 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:11.720 that out. We got a little more analysis of what 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.120 happened across the country yesterday and all the things talk about. 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.719 I hope you can stay here, armstrong and getty. 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:22.720 After poking the bear, this bear roared with an unprecedented 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:27.240 turnout in a special election with an extraordinary result. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:33.159 All Right, that's one of the problems with living in California. 0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:35.160 We got a head start on being tired of who 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:38.240 might be the nominee for the Democrats for president, because 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:39.760 it gets you get pretty tired of these people when 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:41.959 you're running for president on TV every single day for 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:43.000 two years. 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:44.720 Even if you like them. 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:49.679 Yeah, we're already tired them anyway. It's a big political win, 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:54.399 no doubt for Gavin Newsom originally proposed. Everybody hated it, 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.520 including Democrats. No, we're not going to put districting lines 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:01.080 back in the hands of the politicians, but they framed 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.640 it as being anti Trump, and so it won by 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:07.040 like twenty five points yesterday. They're going to redistrict, they're 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:12.360 going to re re and more. Extremely jerrymander California from 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:15.560 what it already was, which was pretty jerryman which was 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.439 pretty jerry mannered already. And now it's mentioning that the. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:24.800 Special interests of California, specifically the public employee unions, the 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:29.960 trial lawyers unions in general, always turn out like crazy 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.359 on off your elections. So if they really want to 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:34.960 get dirty work done, they'll do it in these kind 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:39.920 of weird off your elections. Yeah, because the generalized taxpayer 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:44.320 interested voter in California just doesn't turn out. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:50.359 The on purpose irony is that is pitched as saving democracy, 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:53.080 and it's like the worst thing you could do for democracy. 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:57.000 The more gerrymandering you have, the less democracy. Anyway, here's 0:18:57.040 --> 0:19:00.240 Gavin Newsom, who has really leapt to the top of 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.920 the list of likely nominees for president for the Democratic 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:07.080 Party after yesterday gloating Donald. 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:11.560 Trump called up the Border Patrol, sent them to Dodger 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:16.240 Stadium and through a fastball at free speech, right of 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:21.840 the head free expression to suppress the vote in America's 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:22.840 second largest city. 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.920 Just did that today, people. 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:30.639 In tactical gears sent out to intimidate a community that 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:34.680 is all ready on edge. But you see as we speak, 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:39.080 people are still in line, people waiting up three hours 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:43.679 to cast their vote, to send a message to Donald Trump. 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:50.880 No crowns, no thrones, no kings. That's what this victory represents, 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:53.760 is a victory for the people of the state of 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:58.840 California and the United States of America. 0:19:59.119 --> 0:19:59.840 The vomited. 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:03.639 He doesn't have the chops to win the presidency unless 0:20:03.640 --> 0:20:07.640 the Republicans really cough up a loser. 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:14.679 No crowns, thorns, no kings. Johnald Trump, Jernald Trump. Johnald 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:19.040 Trump said tactical gears. He didn't get everything right in that. 0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:25.120 Yeah, yeah, I just populist politics wear me out. 0:20:25.240 --> 0:20:30.120