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Speaker 1: All right, Here we go our two and a Monday lot,

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Speaker 1: going on to Monday night football games tonight. Colin right

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Speaker 1: Colin Wright, Colin wrong, plenty of both in a Monday

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Speaker 1: where Colin was right. I said last week with Baltimore,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear its injuries. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: what they do well defensively. They weren't good on Monday

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Speaker 1: night and they're not good now. That's the best game

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has played in a long time. Look at

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Speaker 1: what Kansas City did seven yards of play. Kansas City's rebuilding,

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Speaker 1: their own line, has no run game, Travis Kelcey. You

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Speaker 1: get about one big play a game, and they don't

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Speaker 1: have a number one receiver. I mean, Mahomes hasn't played

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Speaker 1: City doesn't have injuries. Rashie Rice isn't playing. This is

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Speaker 1: Worthy's first game back. They lost their best offensive linemen.

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Speaker 1: They have no real consistent rule game Baltimore. I said

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Speaker 1: it last week. I think it's time to panic. You

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Speaker 1: may need more than just getting guys healthy on the defensive.

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Speaker 2: Side, where Colin was rogged.

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Speaker 1: Outside of the Bears game, Brian Schottenheimer has looked buttoned up.

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Speaker 1: I know the Cowboys are won two and one, but

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Speaker 1: this is the best I've seen Dak play in eight years.

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Speaker 1: credit for it. They didn't have Cede Lamb and they

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Speaker 1: mixed them. They mixed it up very well. Again, their

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Speaker 1: just Dak's been around. He's a smart guy. But I

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Speaker 1: They should have beaten if not for a CD Lamb drop,

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Speaker 1: Where Colin was right, Oh, brought pretty or Mac Jones?

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Speaker 1: You tell me there's a difference. Wasn't the knock on

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Speaker 1: four picks. He's got more turnovers than total touchdowns. I

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Speaker 1: did not play well. Again, he's banged up. I understand

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Speaker 1: That is the best game offensively I have seen the

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Speaker 1: Steelers play in maybe six years. Honestly, Aaron was tremendous.

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Speaker 1: He is the best pocket quarterback we've had in.

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was raw.

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Speaker 1: Little ahead of myself on USC first real challenge, got

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Speaker 2: Where Colin was right.

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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold is elite.

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Speaker 1: He's the winningest quarterback in the league since the beginning

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Speaker 1: of last year. This year completing seventy percent of his

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Speaker 1: This team is Green Bay young offensively, This is an

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Speaker 1: He is a great fit. For years and years, I said,

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Speaker 1: I watched Sam Darnold play. He won in high school

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Speaker 1: is a loud road environment. Oregon's a young team. He

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Speaker 1: Dante is next level. Some of these throws. This kid

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Speaker 1: This this kid is if he wants to come out,

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Speaker 1: he may not, but this kid, this kid is really

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Speaker 3: Not bothered at all.

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Speaker 1: I get if you're a thirty two year old NFL quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but that's intimidating. That is an intimidating place you on

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Speaker 1: Well, here we go on a Tuesday. Let's roll it.

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Speaker 2: Heard hierarchy, Now no go. The top ten NFL teams

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Speaker 2: according to College Number.

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Speaker 3: Ten the Colts.

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Speaker 1: I love their offensive line and their skill offensively. They

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Speaker 1: had the game and lost it against the Rams. They

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Speaker 1: have the most efficient offense in the league, and they

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Speaker 1: don't make mistakes. You can't get the Daniel Jones do.

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Speaker 1: I think he's great? Nobody's playing like a b quarterback

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Speaker 1: with you know, decent arm moves. Well again, Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 1: This offensive line, I mean a Denver Broncos pass rush

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Speaker 1: struggled to get to Daniel Jones. If you have an

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Speaker 1: great quarterbacks, sit and watch for long stretches. I have

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Speaker 1: the Colts at ten, number nine Denver Sean Payton as

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Speaker 1: a career five hundred record in September. Even with Drew

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Speaker 1: Brees and bow Knicks, it's ugly early. This roster is

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Speaker 1: really good. They're gonna lead the NFL in sacks again.

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Speaker 1: Two good running backs, excellent O line, hard to get

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Speaker 1: They take big swing. They got a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: Denver nine, number eight Detroit takeout Game one against green

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Speaker 1: Bay with the new coordinators. Jared Goff's completing seventy four

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Speaker 1: percent of his throws this year. Road graters up front,

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Speaker 1: excellent backfield. I mean, Jared Goff hasn't been sacked in

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Speaker 1: a great run game. Defensively, I don't think they're great,

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Speaker 1: It's hard to figure out what Tampa is. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're three and one, they're in every game, but the

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Speaker 1: problem is they're in every game late. They don't put

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Speaker 1: anybody away. And you know Baker can be reckless. He

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Speaker 1: is very good throwing the ball down the field. In fact,

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Speaker 1: he leads the NFL right now five tds no interceptions

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Speaker 1: Bouka is a star. They got a lot of injuries

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna put Tampa at number seven, number six.

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Speaker 1: This was my team that I thought was underrated. I

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna be a playoff team. Seattle second best

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Speaker 1: They've won eight straight road games. I think that speaks

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Speaker 1: to their character and their talent. Sam Darnold again leads

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Speaker 1: the NFL in game winning drives and big pass plays

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Speaker 1: over the last two years and second in wins. Sam's

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Speaker 1: But opposing quarterbacks this year have a seventy six passer

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Speaker 1: have time to get into a slump. Stuff doesn't get

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Speaker 6: To a degree, yes, But there's a lot to unback here, Colin,

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Speaker 6: So let me take some time because you are I

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Speaker 6: all for you giving j Mack a hard time for

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Speaker 4: And you knew zamyer Worthy was coming back.

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Speaker 6: So you didn't even make it to October before you

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Speaker 6: The Los Angeles Chargers, Oh no, they're dealing with an

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Speaker 6: my chest. Listen, the Chiefs are in Lamar's head and

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Speaker 6: he doesn't perform well in big spots. It's just I

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Speaker 4: He wins or comes close to winning an MVP.

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Speaker 6: He's the highest rated passer ever he's all of this,

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Speaker 4: People don't want.

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Speaker 6: For some reason to admit that Lamar is afflicted by

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Speaker 6: What I don't understand why it is so hard for

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Speaker 1: honestly believe he's running less than he could. You can

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Speaker 6: I would go option B because I feel like that

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Speaker 6: think it is it would be unfair Colin for me

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Speaker 6: to judge the trade fully from the Dallas end until

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Speaker 6: we see the picks, right like they traded for Kenny

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Speaker 6: Clark and picks that they.

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Speaker 4: Haven't used yet.

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Speaker 6: So obviously, in the short term it's gonna look better

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Speaker 6: for green Bay, and then we have to take a

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Speaker 6: long view of it for Dallas. But I have actually

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Speaker 6: I watched Dallas play, Colin, and I think I come

443
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Speaker 6: to the opposite opinion of you, because because I've been

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Speaker 6: so impressed by Deck, because I have been pleasantly surprised.

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Speaker 6: Shout out to you know, FS one's Eric Mangini, who

446
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Speaker 6: really believed in Brian Schottenheimer when I don't think anybody

447
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Speaker 6: really thought that was a great hire. I think he's

448
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Speaker 6: done an awesome job early on. But that has made

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Speaker 6: me like this trade worse, Colin, because I watched the

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Speaker 6: Cowboys and I'm like, my god, if they just could

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Speaker 6: be average on defense, they could be really interesting. They

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Speaker 6: just put forty on Green Bay without ceedee lamb. They

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Speaker 6: damn near beat the Packers, you know they they their

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Speaker 6: offense has been so good that I watched the Cowboys

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Speaker 6: and I'm like, man, you know what, they could use

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Speaker 6: an elite pass rusher which they used to have. Like

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Speaker 6: I almost would feel better about this trade for Dallas

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Speaker 6: if Dak were having a bad year, because to me,

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Speaker 6: then it would be like, Okay, they.

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Speaker 4: Weren't that close.

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Speaker 6: They weren't going to compete for anything this year, so let's,

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Speaker 6: you know, retool it. But it feels to me like

463
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Speaker 6: this team would be three and one had they just

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Speaker 6: kept Micah and be an actual dangerous team. So that

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Speaker 6: for me makes it harder to deal with with the

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Speaker 6: Ywerry Cowboys fan.

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Speaker 3: So I jmck and I had a disagreement on this.

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Speaker 1: I said, you an accountant, a judge, a novelist, an actor.

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Speaker 1: In most careers, you got about twenty five years of

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Speaker 1: prime and you can work to your seventies.

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Speaker 3: You can't as a pro football player. And so AJ.

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Speaker 1: Brown and I do think winning matters, but he's already

473
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Speaker 1: got a trophy. I do think if you went to

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Speaker 1: Kobe and said, listen, you get six shots a game,

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Speaker 1: Kobe would have been like, peace out, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: go somewhere else. AJ Brown gets fewer yards than the

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Speaker 1: third Buffalo Bills tight end. He's got money and he's

478
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Speaker 1: got a trophy. His legacy is on the line. He's

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Speaker 1: not necessary. They try to target him nine target seven

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Speaker 1: yards most of the time. He's just not And I

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Speaker 1: think if I was AJ Brown, this sounds selfish, but

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Speaker 1: I think pro athletes get cornered into well it's about

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Speaker 1: winning games. Well that's part of it, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: transformational money, and there's legacies involved. And my take is

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Speaker 1: if I was a J. Brown, I'd go to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: I'd say quietly, I'm not gonna screw the market up.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do a mellow with the Nuggets to

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Speaker 1: the Knicks where I make it public and the Knicks

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Speaker 1: the Nugget your track. Yeah, I would go and just say, hey,

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Speaker 1: Luel Sinder to this a year before he got traded,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be here, make a deal.

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Speaker 3: I think a J.

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Speaker 1: Brown has a right to leave. I am defending him,

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Speaker 1: not staying with a better organization.

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Speaker 3: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 4: No? I mean I totally agree with you.

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Speaker 6: I think that it is I it would be hypocritical

498
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Speaker 6: for me to be mad at Aj Brown for acting

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Speaker 6: I'm pretty sure exactly how.

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Speaker 4: I would act in his position, Like.

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Speaker 6: I'd be like, I'm if I'm Aj.

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Speaker 4: Brown, I'm like, I'm awesome. I've always been awesome.

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Speaker 6: I get drafted by a team that has Ryan Tannehill

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Speaker 6: and Derrick Henry and they they throw to me as

505
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Speaker 6: like a last resort. I think, get traded to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 6: Right when I get there, they throw the ball to

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Speaker 6: me a bunch. I make all these all pros. The

508
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 6: team's really good. And now over the last twenty games,

509
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Speaker 6: our team has become unbeatable and I've become unusable, Like

510
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Speaker 6: what the hell has happened here? And so this is

511
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,959
Speaker 6: like I try to give grace to you know, athletes.

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Speaker 6: If I'm if I can think of a you know,

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Speaker 6: a comp for me and what I would do, Like

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Speaker 6: if somebody, if if Fox came to me, they're like, hey, Nick,

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Speaker 6: we want you to do a sixty second essay during

516
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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl. There's going to be one hundred million,

517
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Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty million people watching now in order

518
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Speaker 6: to do it the whole week leading up to the

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Speaker 6: super Bowl. You can't do your show, but we'll have

520
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Speaker 6: more people seeing you there.

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Speaker 4: It's a bigger thing.

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Speaker 6: I'd probably in my head be like, yeah, I kind

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Speaker 6: of want to do my show, like I kind of

524
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Speaker 6: like the and so like the I think there is

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Speaker 6: if you feel like you're great at something and you

526
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Speaker 6: feel like you're not able to show it and it's

527
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 6: not because your skills have declined, it can be frustrating.

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Speaker 6: And so I think this is a simmering, simmering pot

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Speaker 6: colin that the old they are very and I give

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Speaker 6: the Eagles. I think it's fair to have them number

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Speaker 6: one hierarchy because I respect the fact that they win

532
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Speaker 6: so many different ways. They blocked the field goal two

533
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Speaker 6: weeks ago to win the game, they blocked the punt

534
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Speaker 6: this week to set the game up to win. But

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Speaker 6: there have been I did this this morning. There have

536
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 6: been two one hundred and fifty six halves of football

537
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 6: played so far this year. The worst and second worst

538
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Speaker 6: passing performance by half for the whole league this season

539
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Speaker 6: was the first half for Philadelphia two weeks ago, and

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Speaker 6: the set and half for Philadelphia this past week. That

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Speaker 6: should never happen when you have a really good quarterback,

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Speaker 6: a great wide receiver, another really good receiver, a good receiving.

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Speaker 4: Back, and a good tight end.

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Speaker 6: Something is off right now about their offense, but they're

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Speaker 6: winning anyway. If they're not going to change that, then

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Speaker 6: I would not begrudge if AJ Brown were like, Hey,

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Speaker 6: you know a team that wants to throw the ball,

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Speaker 6: that needs a star receiver that my former head coach

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Speaker 6: is the head coach of in New England.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you see if you can work something out.

551
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 6: And if you're Philly, he might be worth more to

552
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Speaker 6: you in draft capital as your roster gets more expensive

553
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Speaker 6: than he is on the team because they're not effectively

554
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Speaker 6: using him.

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Speaker 1: You and I agree on that, And I think it's

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Speaker 1: very easy in the media to always say the players

557
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Speaker 1: not about winning. It'd be one thing if he didn't

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Speaker 1: have a ring, but once you get the trophy and

559
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Speaker 1: you've got the money, legacy matters.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: He's trying to make the Hall of Fame. The guy's

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Speaker 6: trying to make the Hall of Fame. And he put

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Speaker 6: and I referenced this last time we talked about this.

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Speaker 6: I'm just gonna reference it again, he told the world.

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Speaker 6: Three days after the Super Bowl, he put on Instagram,

566
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Speaker 6: I wondered how long winning a Super Bowl would make

567
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,479
Speaker 6: me feel good. The answer is about two days. And

568
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Speaker 6: then he said, I play this game to see the

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Speaker 6: demoralized defensive back who realizes they can't do anything with me.

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Speaker 4: He's been very honest.

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Speaker 6: He wants to be a dominant individual player, and he

572
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Speaker 6: feels correctly that will help his team.

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Speaker 4: It's not like that's going to hurt his team.

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Speaker 6: And if I were him, I'd be frustrated too.

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Speaker 1: Good stuff, Nick, Right, Chargers are eleven. It should be

576
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Speaker 1: noted the Chiefs were eleven last week.

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Speaker 6: I'm oh, yeah, who knows Chargers could do it? Listen,

578
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 6: not everybody, Colin can not every AFC West team can

579
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Speaker 6: go to the Meadowland and can get a win. Mine can.

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Speaker 6: I don't know about you guys, but mine can do it.

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Speaker 4: See you lighterbuddy.

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00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: One more heard. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day,

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Speaker 2: seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd

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Speaker 2: to listen live or on demand whenever you like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, Jay Mack, I do Colin Wright wrong?

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00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 3: In a Monday.

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Speaker 1: But one of the things I always try not to be.

589
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: I try to be fair, even though I'm critical. And

590
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: sometimes people say, well, you kind of pick on blankety blank,

591
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: and you're always You're always harsh. And I was thinking

592
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: this morning, I tend to be old school. I love

593
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: to sit down and write letters. I do it all

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00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: the time. Not long letters, but I like to write letters.

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00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: I love the post office, I love stamps, and so

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00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I just last night I sat

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00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: down watching the Yankees and Red Sox, and I penned

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Speaker 1: some letters and I'd like to share them.

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Speaker 3: With the audience. Yes, cannot wait to hear people.

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Speaker 1: I've been a little critical of the first one I wrote.

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00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: I wrote to Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron doesn't like me,

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00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: and that's okay.

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00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 3: A lot of people don't like me. But I wrote

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Speaker 3: to Aaron.

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Speaker 1: I said, listen to Aaron Rodgers, I was wrong to

606
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:03,719
Speaker 1: call you a snark, prickly weird uncle. You are a baller,

607
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 1: not a Baylor, after all, My bad, bro. You've been magnetic,

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00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: energizing and resilient in Pittsburgh. The rare eccentric quarterback who

609
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: was pointing Steel City out of the darkness and in.

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Speaker 3: To the lights, yours, CC.

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00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: And then I wrote another letter to Daniel Jones, Dear

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Speaker 1: Danny Dimes, I said you were a bland vanilla unremarkable

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00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: turnover machine.

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00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 3: I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: You're a steady gritty, You're bankable, and now I'm coining

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Speaker 1: you Danny dollars after minting your franchise valuable yours CC.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wasn't done. I had to get a new pan.

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00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 3: I ran out of ink.

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Speaker 1: I got a new pan, and I wrote another letter

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Speaker 1: to Baker Mayfield. Dear Baker, I once called you an immature, undraftable,

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Speaker 1: two time transfer, a frat guy in commercials. Well, it

622
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: takes a big man to admit when he's wrong, and

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Speaker 1: I'm six to two. You are undeniable, a flag planting rebel,

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00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: a team captain of a pirate ship, the walk on quarterback,

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00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: forcing foes to walk the plank, yours CC.

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Speaker 3: I wrote some other stuff on the back of that,

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Speaker 3: but I'm not going to show you. Dan Campbell, I

628
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 3: wrote one to him too. My wife's from Michigan, so

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Speaker 3: I knew the zip code.

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Speaker 1: Dear Dan Campbell, I laughed at you as a too

631
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Speaker 1: much raw raw kneecap, biting meat head. And it turns

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00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: out chomping on knees is authentic and strategic and culture correcting.

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00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 3: With you at the helm.

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Speaker 1: The Lions are never down, even when it's fourth yours, CC,

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00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: This one was tough.

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Speaker 3: This last one I was pretty brutal. I gotta be honest.

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Speaker 3: It was tough. And I don't know the area code

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Speaker 3: in Dallas zip code. Excuse me? I wrote to Brian Schottneimer.

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Speaker 1: I said, dear Shoddy, I called the Cowboys a two

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Speaker 1: win team after I saw your backwards visor.

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Speaker 3: It was a loss a lie. Excuse me, it was

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Speaker 3: a lie.

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Speaker 1: You're a your two losses in a tie, all right,

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Speaker 1: that's being a smart alec. It's all going to change.

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00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: You're steady and adaptable, you're stabilizing. I'm sorry, Coach Schottenneimer.

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Speaker 1: You prove that a backwards visor is just forward thinking yours, CC,

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Speaker 1: C Jmax. Sometimes you have to sit down and be pensive.

648
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,959
Speaker 1: Yeahign and tell these people listen, I know it's rough.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully they open their mail. A lot of people these

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Speaker 1: days don't even go to the mailbox.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, is this the new colin your Midwest sensibilities you're

652
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Speaker 7: writing apology letters and yeah for week five of the NFL.

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Speaker 7: By the way, Schottenheimer, you should have just torn that

654
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Speaker 7: one up. There's no way that they're doing anything with

655
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Speaker 7: that guy at the Helm, no shot, and quickly on

656
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Speaker 7: Dan Campbell. He was a little goofy at the beginning,

657
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 7: remember he was, he was. They've turned it around, we'll

658
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Speaker 7: see if it continues.

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Speaker 1: One of one of the people uh in the NFL

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Speaker 1: that I've just always respected their opinion was Bill Parcells.

661
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: Parcells loved him, and so I was like, come on, Bill, gee,

662
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Speaker 1: he comes.

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Speaker 3: You know what I was told.

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Speaker 1: I think I've told this story a couple of times,

665
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Speaker 1: so I'm sorry, but most of you don't listen all day.

666
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: So I was told by a GM that I was

667
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: in the off season. I was asking him about hiring

668
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: coaches and how hard it is, like seven new guys

669
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Speaker 1: every year. Five don't work, you know, I mean Andy Reider,

670
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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh or Sean Payton. That's the easy stuff and

671
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Speaker 1: a lot of times it doesn't work. And he said,

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Speaker 1: you know, you're really hiring a CEO. He doesn't have

673
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Speaker 1: to know schemes. If you get Andy Reider, Shanahan that's

674
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Speaker 1: a bonus. You don't need a scheme guy. You need

675
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Speaker 1: a man who can stand in front of fifty five

676
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: alphas and lead the team over the hill. Create self

677
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: belief because everybody's hurt by week five. Guys have to

678
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: believe in each other. That's very much Jim Harball. Harball

679
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: loves his players, Swiss players will do anything for him.

680
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Speaker 1: And that's Dan Campbell. And then that's what I've questioned

681
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: with Mike McDaniel. I don't question the intelligence. He's a

682
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Speaker 1: scheme guy. But you can make it in this league

683
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: being a culture creator and not good with schemes, Well

684
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: don't You can't. It's yet to be proven if you

685
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: can make it as a great scheme guy, but your

686
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: players don't really trust you or believe in you. And

687
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Speaker 1: Dan Campbell, I remember his first year and a half.

688
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: They were bad and I went on the air. I

689
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: think they played Baltimore at home, they lost, and I

690
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:25,919
Speaker 1: was like, I don't think I've ever seen a team

691
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 1: in the league play as hard as they do. They're

692
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 1: getting hammered. They don't have personnel. So I think you

693
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 1: if you're a great CEO, you don't have to be

694
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Speaker 1: anything in the scheme department. If you're a great scheme guy,

695
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Speaker 1: if you don't have the ability. That was always the

696
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: knock on Matt Lafleur. Everybody knew he was a great

697
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: scheme guy, but he wasn't the guy who had ever

698
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 1: stood in front of the room. And he's not a

699
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: real big brash guy with a big ego. Now he's

700
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: become very good at that. But I remember talking to

701
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 1: a GM They say he's super smart, but he doesn't

702
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: have the McVeigh Like McVeigh walks into a and he's

703
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: just like wow. You know, Matt's kind of quiet, he

704
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: doesn't need to talk a lot. But he's developed into

705
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: a great culture guy as well.

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Speaker 7: I mean, listen, it's tough because with Campbell, yes, I

707
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 7: agree with everything you said one hundred percent, but Colin,

708
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Speaker 7: there's going to come a time when there's two minutes

709
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 7: left and it's twenty four all right, of the NFC

710
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 7: Championship Game, and all that CEO stuff that Dan Campbell

711
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 7: brings to the table is not going to get you

712
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 7: over the top and get you to the end zone.

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Speaker 4: Right. You need the scheme.

714
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Speaker 7: So, like most things in life, it's a little fifty

715
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 7: to fifty maybe sixty forty. You hire the scheme right,

716
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 7: so Ben Johnson as the OC they take, they make

717
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 7: the jump to light speed. But early on in the

718
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 7: Dan Campbell era, they weren't great. They needed that scheme guy.

719
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Speaker 7: Now have they found him in whoever their OC is now,

720
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Speaker 7: Johnny Willie. We'll see, I mean, listen, the Bengals game

721
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 7: could be dangerous. I'm seeing an injury report. I know

722
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 7: you don't like him. Lions could be down boat starting.

723
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Speaker 1: Cornerbacksidel against Jason Higgins Philadelphia is a great example.

724
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Speaker 3: Sirianni's more CEO. He's not a scheme guys.

725
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Speaker 1: So on he had stik in, Oh you look great, yes,

726
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: Steike and leaves he's awful. He hires Brian Johnson, it

727
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: doesn't work. Then he hires Kellen Moore, it works. Kellen

728
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: Moore leaves. They've got a new guy in. Now it's

729
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: not working, right. So Sirianni has been incredibly dependent on

730
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: Howie Roseman's drafting. But he's been as good Nick Sirianni's

731
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: an offensive guy. He has been as good as his

732
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: coordinators because he's not a scheme guy. He's heavily relented.

733
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Speaker 1: Now he's hired a great one that he missed and

734
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Speaker 1: they hired a better one.

735
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Speaker 3: Has he missed We don't know. But it's tough.

736
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Speaker 2: That's tough. It's like drafting.

737
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Speaker 3: You don't know what you're getting. Some of these ocs.

738
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Speaker 7: Remember the Houston Texans two years ago thought they had

739
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 7: their guy awesome ocs like the world of fires Stroud,

740
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Speaker 7: He's gone, We're slowing.

741
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Speaker 4: Now, what's he doing?

742
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Speaker 3: Half of these guys.

743
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Speaker 1: Did anybody ever think Tom Cofflin would beat Brady and

744
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: Belichick in two Super Bowls when he was at Boston College?

745
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Speaker 3: I mean, he just don't. You don't know who you're

746
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Speaker 3: hiring sometimes