1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: The Volume. 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: Just a reminder you can catch us recording this podcast 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 2: live on amp amp is a new live radio app 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: that lets you call in and chat with us in 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: person while we're recording. Get the app on Apple's app 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: store and make sure you follow us at at Jenkins 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 2: and Jones to get notified when we go live. Welcome 8 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 2: to Jenkinson Jones on The Volume podcast Network. It is Monday, 9 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 2: June twenty sixth and Silly Billy Summer rolls on. We 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: got another great episode for you today. We are talking 11 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: to kg Sojo b aerospace engineer to answer our questions 12 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: about why planes stay up in the air, as well 13 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: as talk about some whether it was a good idea 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: or a bad idea to take a minivan down to 15 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 2: the Titanic. As always, Jenkins and Jones hosted by Dragonfly Jones. 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 3: Aka Tyler, Everybody have a gun. 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 2: Jethro Jenkins aka Sleepy John. 18 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 3: Was that Bubba's y'all. 19 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: A GUARDI b aka Mike mother my motherfucking Mike. And 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: before we get to our interview with Cage, just a 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: couple of quick sports things to talk about. First of all, 22 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 2: Wemby has officially been he's doing the rounds he's getting 23 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: the car washed in San Antonio. The number one overall 24 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 2: draft pick, Victor we Benana web Miniama from France, seven 25 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 2: foot nineteen inches tall, the biggest man you know that 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: we will have seen in the NBA went out for 27 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 2: dinner with Spurs legends, Tim Duncan, David Robinson, Manu was 28 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 2: there and man. 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: Tim Duncan and David Elliot. Enough process, Oh you're right 30 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: right there. 31 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, my apologies to Sean Elliott and his family. You know, 32 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: those are some big people and they look like us 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: standing next to Wemby. That was really that really bent 34 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 2: my brain. 35 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: That was like the friend picture with the six foot 36 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: five homie, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, that's 37 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: what that shit looked like. You don't see people making 38 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: you know, fucking Sean Elliott was what six', ten fucking you, 39 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: know admiral seven to. One Fucking timmy was six eleven 40 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: seven foot and he was just towering over those. 41 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: Dudes you don't see, that. Bro it looked like there. 42 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 4: Was only one basketball player in that, pick you know 43 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 4: What i'm, Saying, like you know What i'm. Saying everybody 44 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 4: else was just guys that you, know had. 45 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: Jobs you know WHAT i. 46 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 4: Mean that was, crazy but also it was interesting to. 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 4: SEE i didn't Know David robinson was a forced one. 48 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 4: GUY i could not have Imagined David robinson as some 49 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 4: Forces that's crazy to. 50 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 3: Me but, yeah, man he had some forces. 51 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: On he had some forces. 52 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 4: On, yeah, him the dude next to, Him, wimby him 53 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 4: And wimby had forces. On and man who has on 54 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: with the weird ass and She you, know maybe that's 55 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 4: some argentitius, shit but uh, yeah, man but uh you 56 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 4: talk you, said you're talking a lot of shit About TIMMY. 57 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 5: Dt THAT t shirt he had a was that Was, 58 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 5: hayes like a. Motherfucker you saw the, nipples you saw 59 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 5: a nipples. Store you guys what told you the? 60 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: Story AND i know it's been proving time and time 61 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: again that when we think wealthy people are dressing, down 62 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: they're usually. Not they're usually wearing like a five hundred dollars, 63 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: shirt fifteen thousand, dollars fifteen hundred dollars. Jeans that was 64 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: not the case With. Timmy as a motherfucker who has 65 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: worn a lot Of HAINES t shirts in my. LIFE 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: i know A HAYES t shirt WHEN i SEE i 67 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: hates t, shirt had that five pound ducted an arguable 68 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: top ten player of all, time the best player In spurs. 69 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: History he had on a Motherfucking haines five for fifteen 70 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: dollars on white. 71 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: Tea and that is. 72 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: Legendary and my, motherfucker see this is shit like this 73 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: is WHY i wanted with me to go To San. 74 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: Antonio all jokes to side LIKE i hadn't real real, 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: SHIT i mean the basketball. SHIT i wanted him to 76 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: go to a place, where you, know LIKE i, SAID 77 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: i wanted him to go to a franchise that was 78 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: going to, know you, know be responsible with his physical 79 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: upkeep and with his basketball, development, right and and that's 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: WHY i want him to go To San. Antono but 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: this is this is another reason WHY i want him 82 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: to go To San. Antono he's got some solid OG's 83 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: who are gonna be around him mentoring. Him, Right there's 84 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: some really gratitudes are gonna tell him what to do 85 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: with his. Money who are gonna you, know you, know 86 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: being being in his in his ear about you, know you, 87 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: know how to how to you, know handle his money 88 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 1: right in, vestles not the squad and all, that and 89 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 1: and that dinner was just like an example of that. 90 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: Ship all those dudes were like you, know fucking you, 91 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: know multi Time max, guys you, know except for Like, 92 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: manu and they were out there looking like my uncles and, 93 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: shit like you know What i'm. Saying so, Dude, Yeah 94 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: i'm Happy Tim dunkan walked in like he just molded. 95 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 4: Lawn those are those are the lawn mowing boots he had. 96 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: On i've mowed. LIWNES i mowed him. 97 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 5: For money in high school If i'm a high school 98 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 5: but middle. School those are the exact. BOOTS i know 99 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 5: what they look like when they've been beat up from mowing. 100 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 5: Lawns but he had them ships On G's so, YEAH 101 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 5: i love to see. It i'm, Wondering, like, also it 102 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 5: seemed like everything he wears Is. Nike is that the 103 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 5: only thing he can? Wear like right, Now LIKE i, 104 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 5: mean he obviously he gets. 105 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: Things tailored and, shit and but like every Time i've seen, 106 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 4: him he said On, Nike he's Had nike, On AND i, wonder, 107 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: like just, ATHLETIC i mean at that, size you, know. 108 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: LIKE i mean he's he seven foot, five he can't 109 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: just you, know fucking hop on the internet and order some. 110 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: Shit right, right, right right right. Right but that's, Crazy. 111 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 2: Okay speaking of of freak, ATHLETES i Took vinnie to 112 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 2: shout out to my Friend Andy, kerr publisher Of the 113 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,480 Speaker 2: five six. Two he brought me And vinnie to go 114 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 2: see A Dodgers angels game At Angel stadium last week 115 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 2: Where Shoheo tommy was, pitching and he had seats that 116 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: were four rows behind home, plate almost close enough to 117 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: feel the air coming off of one hundred mile an hour. 118 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,799 Speaker 2: Fastball BUT i have to Say i've been around baseball 119 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 2: quite a bit for the last fifteen years of my. 120 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: LIFE i have seen one hundred mile an hour fastballs 121 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: from many different. ANGLES i have never been sitting that 122 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: close behind. One it's. IMPOSSIBLE i don't know what these 123 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: motherfuckers are doing that shit, LIKE i don't even know 124 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 2: how you stand in the batter's box and look at 125 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 2: it three times without shitting. Yourself this shit's. Crazy but 126 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: the same person who's throwing those fastballs went viral On 127 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: twitter home hitting a home run off of a ball 128 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: that was way inside From Kyle. Freeland he turned on, 129 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: it smacked it out of the fucking, part And Kyle 130 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 2: freeland the picture you, know they catch him, mouthing how 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: the fuck did you hit? That and it's a valid, 132 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: Question john BRO i touched, it you. 133 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 4: ALL i was, like this is the pitch like that 134 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 4: you try to stay off of because it's extremely hard 135 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: to hit and then if you if you, don't you're 136 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 4: just trying to get a piece of it and fight 137 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,359 Speaker 4: that motherfuck, off. 138 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: You know What i'm. 139 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 4: Saying and he turned on it short, arm that motherfucker 140 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 4: and hit it out the park like that's the, pitch you, 141 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: know like you just trying to get somebody to chase 142 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 4: something that it's unhittable if you're a picture you, know 143 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 4: so like it's just his reaction was made so much 144 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 4: sense to me BECAUSE i don't understand at, all like 145 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: how did you put back on, ball let alone send 146 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: that motherfucker out the? Park and at your, SIZE i 147 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 4: remember like like you, KNOW i played or, whatever BUT 148 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: i would as a, LEFTY i had an open stance 149 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 4: because of inside, pitches because it's harder to turn on 150 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 4: an inside, pitch so to catch, UP i would have 151 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 4: my stance, open you know What i'm. Saying when batting 152 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 4: against you know, lefties you feel me and like closed 153 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: stance just just all hands and fast twisch muscles and, hips, 154 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 4: nigga you know WHAT i? 155 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 3: Mean like at his size blew my. MIND i THOUGHT 156 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: i was. 157 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 5: TALKING i was To. 158 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 4: ROTHER i was like rather rather came in and she was, 159 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 4: like what's? Wrong and it was BECAUSE i was on 160 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 4: the tenth time watching the, video just shaking my just 161 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 4: like staring like what the? 162 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: Fuck how do you do? It you? 163 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: Know how do you? 164 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: KNOW i just didn't understand. 165 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 4: It BUT i Told, robert so we going were going 166 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,559 Speaker 4: to the game that flat out we have to say 167 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 4: we have seen him in real. 168 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 3: Life you feel, well you, know not. 169 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: Normal he will be A dodger next. Year and we 170 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: were sitting close enough to yell at. Him you'll look 171 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: better and blue next. Year he'll be on The dodgers next. 172 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 2: Year you come to a game with, us we'll catch 173 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: Show hey pitching With mookie playing. Too you can check 174 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 2: a lot of boxes with and. 175 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: Baseball baseball is it's a live is a fun. 176 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 3: Experience so we need to need to pull. 177 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 6: Up. 178 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: Man there's there's no excuse for us not to go 179 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: on to, me no. Doubt all, right we're gonna take 180 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: a quick break and then we'll be back WITH kg 181 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: sojo B, o our expert aerospace engineer to answer some. 182 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 2: Questions we're very excited to welcome on a special. Guest 183 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 2: when you get too old and too busy to hang 184 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 2: out with your, friends you just have him on your. 185 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 2: Podcast that's the easiest way to catch up with. Him 186 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 2: we're welcoming. On we said we're gonna have an expert 187 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: on to answer some stupid. Questions, uh and we have 188 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 2: a smart person to do, that my good Friend Kagi 189 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 2: sojo B she's an aerospace. ENGINEER. Kg thanks wropping on the. 190 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 6: Show thank you so much for having. Me i'm excited 191 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 6: to be. 192 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: HERE i think you're The you're you're the first person 193 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 2: who is in our wedding to be on the. Show 194 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: So i'm very. Excited was very. EXCITED i totally forgot 195 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: to tell her you were coming, on and SO i 196 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 2: was like on the on the WAY i think it 197 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: was on the way home earlier. TODAY i was, like, 198 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 2: Oh i'm going to SEE kg and. Night she was like. 199 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: WHAT i was, Like, yeah she's coming on the. Podcast 200 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: what an? Honor that? 201 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 3: Is all, Right. 202 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 2: Cagie, well AS i, mentioned you're an aerospace, engineer we 203 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 2: i don't know how we got on the topic of 204 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: the fact that it does not seem possible to us 205 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: that planes. 206 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 4: FLY i was, WATCHING i was, watching uh with some 207 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 4: with any, BABY i was. Watching we were at the 208 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 4: airport for like too, long you know WHAT i, mean 209 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 4: because the flight was delayed AND i was watching planes, 210 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 4: fly AND i, said that's one of the things to 211 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 4: me THAT i still think is. Magic LIKE i eat, 212 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: it you know What i'm. Saying it doesn't seem like 213 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 4: we should be able to do. That the planes are too. 214 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 4: Heavy it also like the moving fast enough to like 215 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 4: to be in a. 216 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 2: Fly so, yeah but it occurred to me As john 217 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: was talking about. This so it's, LIKE i do actually 218 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: have a good friend who UNDERSTANDS i think how planes. 219 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 6: Fly i'm really glad THAT i could be of. S, 220 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 6: yeah that is a pretty cool thing about, yeah just 221 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 6: knowing different. People but, yeah, no LIKE i one of 222 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 6: my favorite quotes is something about It i'm going to 223 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 6: completely butcher, it but something about how like you, know 224 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 6: deepest kind of SCIENCE i guess often looks like magic 225 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 6: until we understand. It and so, yeah it definitely doesn't make, 226 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 6: sense just not like thinking about it too deeply that 227 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 6: something like especially you, know like aircraft, carriers not aircraft, 228 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 6: carriers but like massive like you, know jumbo jet type 229 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 6: of things should be able to. Fly so, yeah SO 230 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 6: i guess the most basic aspect of it is like 231 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 6: basic forces of lift and. Drag and drag is what 232 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 6: it sounds, like you, know forces that act on something 233 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 6: when it's moving to kind of keep it from. Moving 234 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 6: and lift is a force also the way it sounds 235 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 6: that lifts something. Up so the way that airplanes are, 236 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 6: designed the kind of humans kind of started looking at 237 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 6: birds first when thinking about how to like you, know 238 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 6: achieve flight and. Everything birds have these wings that have 239 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 6: a certain kind of a surface area on. Them and 240 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 6: because there is an atmosphere in our, world as opposed 241 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 6: to being on a place like the, moon where you 242 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 6: would have to figure out flight in a different, way 243 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 6: the air of our atmosphere does have a, mass something 244 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 6: that you could create resistance against with you, know a 245 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 6: certain kind of a surface area on. It so, airplanes 246 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 6: with their, wings they are designed to have a surface 247 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 6: area of the wings that would amount to, well that 248 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 6: would create the kind of lift that you need to 249 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 6: get off the ground and to hover, basically and so 250 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 6: on top of that basic part of, it once you 251 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 6: add the type of like thrust you can get from certain, 252 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 6: engines then when you're going at certain, speeds you also 253 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 6: can add to your lift in a, SENSE i haven't 254 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 6: looked at exact formulas and whatnot in a really long. 255 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 6: TIME i tend to work more on the space side 256 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 6: of things in my. Job but, YEAH i think that is. 257 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: Very Very i'm actually About i'm actually not worried about 258 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: howings fly on this plan. 259 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 7: That Undergrad, Yeah, no that Was, yeah that was my 260 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 7: sort of pompous way of saying THAT i can't remember 261 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 7: everything THAT i learned in. 262 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 6: College BUT i hope that my kind of like super 263 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 6: general overview makes a little bit more sense in terms, of, 264 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 6: yeah just the forces that are acting on crafts like 265 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 6: an airplane to keep them in the. Air something THAT 266 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 6: i like thinking about a lot that kind of helps 267 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 6: to ease any ANXIETIES i think in a lot of 268 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 6: people is that planes aren't known for just falling out 269 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 6: of the sky left and, right particularly because of that wing. 270 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 6: Design the engines are what really make them. Go but 271 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 6: let's say you lose an engine with a good, pilot 272 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 6: as you're supposed to always have a good pilot on these, 273 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 6: plates you can still maneuver the plane to like you, 274 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 6: know hover and float down because of that surface. Area 275 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 6: it's like when you have a piece of, paper like 276 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 6: the way paper like when you throw the throw it 277 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 6: up in the, air it'll kind of, like you, know 278 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 6: drift as opposed to just sinking to the. Ground it's 279 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 6: because it's got that surface area and there's a lift 280 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 6: kind of keeping it up for a little. While it's 281 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 6: another reason Why i'm kind of. DISCLAIMER i haven't studied 282 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 6: how helicopters work, exactly SO i don't fully understand that 283 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 6: kind of. Flight BUT i don't like that that they 284 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 6: don't have wings with large surface areas so that once 285 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 6: they do lose you, know their their, engines they can you, 286 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 6: know they don't they don't have that like hovering. CAPABILITY 287 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 6: i feel like that's why you see so many of 288 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 6: them just kind of go crazy as soon as the 289 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 6: engine's gone like so, anyway. 290 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: So we've confirmed that helicopters are. Magic like we can 291 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 2: explain scientifically how planes, fly but helicopters. 292 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 6: Less so that's just me not being able to explain. 293 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 6: That SO i don't know IF i would go that. 294 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: Far you're the aerospace engineer, here so. 295 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 6: Let me go do some studying and then come back about. 296 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 6: Helicopters but know that on an, airplane you're you're you're 297 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 6: pretty safe in terms, of you, know if anything were 298 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 6: to go, wrong like it would need to be like 299 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 6: everything is destroyed, generally or the plane to not being 300 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 6: able to stay up. 301 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 3: Anymore, yeah, okay so so this this is random as? Hell. 302 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: RIGHT i saw a tweet where do y'all remember that 303 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: The incredibles Movie dash the little fast, baby, right and 304 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: you remember that one scene when he was running from 305 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: the bad guys and he was going so fast that 306 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: he ran across the. Water he didn't believe that he 307 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: was running across the. Water, well they had that sweet, up, 308 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: Right and someone, tweeted this is the same reason that 309 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: planes can Fly newton's third law? 310 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: Physics is that correct or? Incorrect BECAUSE i have no 311 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 3: idea what any of that. 312 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 6: Means that's really. Interesting, okay hold, on just a second. 313 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 3: Book remember which? 314 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 6: Law, well, FUNNY i did pull this, out But i'm 315 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 6: actually going to google. Something, okay, okay, SOUSE i can 316 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 6: never remember which law is. Which So newton's third law states, that, 317 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 6: oh that's the one about every action having an equal 318 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 6: and opposite. 319 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: Reaction so is that like the lyft and drag you 320 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 2: were talking, about. 321 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 4: Well gues lift and drag drag inertia is does that 322 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: have anything to. 323 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 6: Do with drag? Works, yeah drag works with a like 324 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 6: inertia basically says THAT. A i think That's newton's second. 325 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 6: Law don't quote me on, again but inertia says that 326 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 6: an object at rest will remain at rest unless you, 327 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 6: know acted on by another four same thing with an 328 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 6: object in motion will remain in motion unless acted on 329 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 6: by a force to to stop. It, so, yeah the 330 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 6: equal and opposite reactions and dash running on water and 331 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 6: airplanes and, FLIGHT i, MEAN i GUESS i have to 332 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 6: think about that some. 333 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 2: MORE i think she's CALLING i think she's CALLING bs 334 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: on the. 335 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:47,959 Speaker 8: TWEET i, MEAN i think it's one of those things, that, 336 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 8: yeah people will come on and they'll say things and 337 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 8: they'll be super vague and, LIKE i, mean, yeah it 338 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 8: kind of sounds it sounds very smart for, sure BUT 339 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 8: i know it's definitely gonna take me a second to really. 340 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 6: See i'm not going to discount, it BUT i need 341 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 6: to like really think that Through. 342 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 2: I'm discounting, it So i'm my. Last i've got a 343 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 2: couple more questions about. Planes one, is so this is very, 344 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: stupid and you know that this is not anything THAT i. 345 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: Understand but my thought was always that the engines were 346 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 2: basically so, strong LIKE i was completely unaware of HOW 347 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 2: i guess really how important the wings. ARE i always 348 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 2: thought the engines were so strong that it was basically 349 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 2: like if you start off underwater on the bottom of a, 350 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 2: pool and then you swim up and swim, forward and 351 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 2: then IF i were to like turn my face down 352 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: and then swim back, down that's kind of WHAT i 353 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: thought engines were. 354 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 6: Doing but that's no explain that one more time if 355 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 6: you're at the. 356 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: Bottom, yeah, Yeah LIKE i, thought like me going from 357 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 2: the bottom of a pool, up swimming forward and then 358 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 2: going back. DOWN i thought that was like how planes. 359 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 2: Work that it was like the engines picked it up 360 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: and push it, forward and then you'd sort of just 361 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: point the plane down and the engines the plane. Down 362 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: and that's really not the case at. All they sort 363 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: of more so like it's more of a control sling. 364 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 2: Shot is that like? 365 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 6: Accurate SO i would say that the engines, Provide so 366 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,639 Speaker 6: they provide a thrust to get you to the velocity 367 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 6: that you need in order for the lift to the 368 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 6: lifting force of the atmosphere around you to like lift 369 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 6: that or to lift you. Up, yeah and then once 370 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,919 Speaker 6: you're in the, air they maintain your. Velocity the, engines the, 371 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 6: thrust they help. 372 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: You they're not shooting you, back. 373 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 6: Correct when it comes to. Landing when it comes to, 374 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 6: landing it's a lot of the, again the surfaces that 375 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 6: are helping you get to where you need to. Go, 376 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 6: so like they call them control. Surfaces on the, wings 377 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 6: they will change the shape of the wing to like 378 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 6: start to change the amount of lift that you're getting 379 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 6: and help you start to. Descend so, yeah it's like 380 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 6: this is one THING i think about a. Lot you, 381 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,919 Speaker 6: know the emojis for like you, know taking off and 382 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 6: landing and. Whatnot the landing emoji always has a plane 383 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 6: like you, know with the nose, down which is. Bad 384 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 6: that's not what should be happening because, yeah the, wing 385 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 6: the plane still needs to have a certain an angle 386 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 6: of attack is what they call, it in order for 387 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 6: you to get that, lift and you still have to 388 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 6: have a certain amount like basically when you're. Landing, well first, 389 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 6: off you wouldn't want to be nosed down anyway because 390 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 6: you're just you're gonna hit the. Ground but the wings 391 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 6: need to have a positive angle of, attack, uh to 392 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 6: give you control of like your lift values as you're coming. 393 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 6: In this sounds not, great BUT i hope it. 394 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: Could of makes. 395 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: SENSE i MEAN i always thought that they just kind, 396 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: of you, know let off the gas so to, speak 397 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: you know. 398 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 3: Speed, yeah, yeah that's WHAT i thought they. Did plateaus 399 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 3: down is? 400 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 6: That, Yeah so there is a letting off the gas 401 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 6: a little. Bit, yeah but they're not completely like cutting the, 402 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 6: engines you, know for, example it's not put completely off the. 403 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 4: Gas what speed must they, reach you, know for it 404 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 4: to get that? LIFT i, mean for a plane that, 405 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 4: heavy it seems like it would be faster than What 406 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: i'm looking. At but maybe it's moving faster than WHAT 407 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 4: i think it's moving WHEN i see it like taking, 408 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 4: off you know WHAT i. 409 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 6: Mean, YEAH i think that is part of. It like 410 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 6: you've seen like rocket, launches, yah, yeah like to leave 411 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 6: The earth's. Atmosphere, oh this is. BAD i can't remember 412 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 6: the exact, number but it's on the order of tens 413 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 6: of thousands of miles an hour that rocket is needing 414 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 6: to reach in order to leave The, earth in order 415 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 6: to escape the, gravity or in order to get up to. 416 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 6: Orbit rather and it never it doesn't look that fast 417 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 6: definitely at the start as you're watching. IT i feel 418 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 6: like similarly an, airplane once you get to like cruising, 419 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 6: altitudes you are at you, know hundreds of miles an, 420 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 6: hour and you are on the way to reaching that 421 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 6: speed as you go to take, Off AND i think 422 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 6: there is an element of, scale like when you are 423 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 6: in when you're at the, gate you, know looking out 424 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 6: the window watching planes take off us being as small 425 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 6: as we are and then being as far away from 426 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 6: us as we. ARE i think that is the reason 427 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 6: why they don't look like they're going as fast as they. 428 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 4: Are if it was a, person we would think they 429 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: were fucking you know What i'm, saying going a trillion an, 430 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 4: hour you. 431 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 6: Know WHAT i. Mean and that's something faster. 432 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 4: Than they're actually, going you, know if it was when 433 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 4: somebody run something. 434 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 6: That helps me actually to like picture like think of 435 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 6: that plane as like a person. Instead that's when you 436 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 6: start to really see the scale and see how fast 437 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 6: it really is. 438 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 4: Moving does this science make you feel more comfortable than. Not, 439 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 4: like my sister's a, doctor AND i think because she 440 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 4: knows certain, things it makes her as a, parent it 441 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: makes her it's made her less comfortable because she knows 442 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: things that she might not want to know thinking about her. 443 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 4: Child you know WHAT i mean when when you're getting 444 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 4: on a plane or you, know do you think about 445 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 4: certain things or does it does it not as make 446 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 4: you more comfortable or JUST i. 447 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 6: Think there's a lot that makes me more. Comfortable like 448 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 6: it's cool to know you know that there is science 449 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 6: backed by the engineering that created these, things and, yeah 450 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 6: that's WHY i can feel pretty comfortable that a plane 451 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 6: is probably not just going to fall out of the. 452 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 6: Sky it's interesting, though the things that do kind of 453 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 6: get into my head are having worked in engineering and 454 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 6: been behind the scenes a little bit more and understood 455 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 6: the more paperwork side of things that goes into These 456 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 6: that's WHERE i can start to get a little bit 457 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 6: like you, know on, edge because you, know there are industry, 458 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 6: standards you, know for, example that need to be met 459 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 6: in terms of procedures that are used to create the 460 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 6: drawings for certain, parts to you, know to get approvals 461 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 6: for changes to certain kinds of engineering and things like. 462 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 6: That AND i think a good example of where my 463 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 6: nervousness can come in, is you, know The boeing seven 464 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 6: thirty Seven, max like they had those airplanes that the 465 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 6: they those were very bad examples of, this but planes 466 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 6: that just essentially like you, know fell out of the 467 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,680 Speaker 6: sky sort of like really disastrous. Situations and then there 468 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 6: was A netflix documentary that came out it was last 469 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 6: year or the year, before where they went into the 470 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 6: investigation as to what happened with those and a lot 471 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:22,640 Speaker 6: of the problem there came from just corners that were 472 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 6: cut along the way when it came to making sure 473 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 6: certain standards were. 474 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 8: Met and, yeah, yeah, man. 475 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 6: Exactly SO i was thinking that might Lead. 476 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 2: Yeah that's a great. Transition thanks for thanks for thanks 477 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 2: for being segue. SOJOB i appreciate. It you, know we 478 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 2: like we had already asked you to be. On and 479 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: then obviously the last Week twitter became not aeronautic engineering, 480 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 2: experts but nautical engineering experts with all of the craziness 481 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: with the Ocean gate. Thing you you mentioned how exacting 482 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 2: and specific and regulated every aspect of traveling up from 483 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 2: the surface Of earth, is and you, know in this, 484 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: case there's obviously been a ton of reporting about exactly 485 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: how little regulation there is around people who decide that 486 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: they want to go down from The earth's, Surface And 487 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: i'm just curious from your. Perspective, obviously you have a 488 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 2: very specific expertise in kind of the you, know the 489 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: in the aerospace, Engineering but as an, engineer as this 490 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: story is unfolding with The Ocean gate, submarine you've got 491 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: to be doing some different thoughts and math in your 492 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 2: head around pressure and all that kind of. Stuff then 493 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: we were doing just sort of refreshing the timeline to 494 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: see if there was an. Update is that? Right what 495 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 2: were you kind of thinking as this was. 496 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 6: Unfolding, YEAH i was definitely thinking about just the math 497 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 6: and the science around what it would take to have 498 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 6: a a vehicle that human beings would be safe and 499 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 6: side descending to the depths of the ocean that they 500 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 6: were trying to. Reach, yeah the pressures increase like crazy 501 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 6: the further down into the ocean that you. Go water 502 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 6: is very heavy to put, it, like you, know, Simply 503 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 6: AND i remember reading earlier in the week that the 504 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 6: vessel that they were, in The, titan was rated to 505 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 6: go down to something like thirteen thousand feet, only but 506 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 6: they were trying to reach, like you, know was it 507 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 6: two and a half miles down like much more than 508 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 6: thirteen thousand feet is where The titanic site. Was AND 509 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 6: i from that, point my mind immediately jumps to, again 510 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 6: like how in the world was it legal for them 511 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 6: to run a business not meeting those basic standards, again 512 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 6: like those industry, standards you. KNOW i started reading more 513 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 6: and more about how letters had been, written like you, 514 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 6: know people well in the industry had been calling out 515 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 6: this company for not meeting certain industry, standards AND i 516 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 6: couldn't understand how much of a lack of regulation like 517 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 6: you were saying there is, apparently LIKE i, guess you, 518 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 6: KNOW i was talking with some coworkers about it this, 519 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 6: week and it's, like, yeah the company was based on, 520 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 6: land you, know in The United, states where there are 521 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 6: certain laws they have to, follow but LIKE i, guess 522 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 6: once you get out into the, ocean you, know international, 523 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 6: waters there are just things that you don't have to you, 524 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:42,560 Speaker 6: know certain like just things that you don't have to 525 00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 6: go through to be able to go through these. Things 526 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 6: AND i mean it's pretty basic. STUFF i would, think 527 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 6: like basic engineering to make sure that you comply with 528 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 6: before you even think, ABOUT i, mean even getting into 529 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 6: that vessel. Yourself AND, i, yeah it seems to me 530 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 6: that this wasn't a case of like, oops mistakes and 531 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 6: engineering or mistakes in the math and. Calculations it seems more, 532 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 6: THAT i don't, know it almost just seems like they 533 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 6: were just trying TO i don't, know is. 534 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: There a dollar amount that you would have been willing 535 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: to get into that vehicle? 536 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 6: FOR i don't think. So, no not for some private. 537 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 6: Company like maybe there's a world in, which, like you, 538 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 6: know if if IF i had chosen that as my, 539 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 6: field you, know to you, know explore the depths of the, 540 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 6: ocean AND i was working with you, know a reputable, 541 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 6: organization like maybe something government funded where they really worse 542 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 6: sticklers about following the, rules then if it's my, job then, 543 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 6: YEAH i would get in. THERE i don't know that 544 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 6: it would ever be my, job but you, know it 545 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 6: would do with, Them but, never never with a company like. 546 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 6: THIS i feel like this was a little bit of 547 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 6: a another example of this kind of the the brashness 548 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 6: of like startup culture and like you, know THE ceo 549 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 6: of the, company he's quoted as saying things about how 550 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 6: like you, know, like, yeah other companies who have been 551 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 6: trying to do the same kinds of, things like they 552 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:42,760 Speaker 6: stick very close to standards and you, know follow, rules 553 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 6: but there's not a lot of. Innovation and he said 554 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 6: this in sort of a braggadocious, way like he was 555 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 6: trying to, innovate and, like you, KNOW i translated that 556 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 6: in my mind to, like you, know grow the capital 557 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 6: of the, company you, know increase profits and you, know 558 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 6: just get people excited about all this. Stuff AND i 559 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 6: think that we have seen that there's a lot of 560 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 6: danger to that thinking without really prioritizing i, mean human lives, 561 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 6: First like if you're going to try to, innovate like 562 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 6: don't put people in the, vessels you, know LIKE SpaceX for, 563 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 6: example talking about startup, CULTURE i think there were lots 564 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 6: of ways in which a lot of these space companies 565 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 6: coming up, now INCLUDING, SpaceX have sort of like you, 566 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 6: know just tried to do things, differently tried to increase 567 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 6: the speed of manufacturing and all this kind of stuff 568 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 6: and kind of going not going around, standards but just 569 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 6: sort of seeing what they could get away. With but 570 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 6: in working with the you, know major organization of The 571 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 6: United STATES nasa to get their work you, know across 572 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 6: they have had to maintain certain standards as far as 573 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 6: like you, know well you're not going to put any 574 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 6: human beings on any of these flights until you know 575 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,239 Speaker 6: certain things are. Met and it's, yeah really tragic to. 576 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,240 Speaker 6: Me AND i just couldn't believe that the same kinds 577 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 6: of restrictions aren't in place for Nautical, yeah. 578 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 2: Expedition well we said on the last, part it's like 579 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 2: they can't the cops can't pull you over ten thousand 580 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 2: feet under the, ocean like that's part but like that's 581 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 2: part of, it, Right it's literally just that it's, like, 582 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: well if you're going down, there like we can't follow 583 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 2: you or you, know LIKE i don't, KNOW i mean 584 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 2: if it feels like that's part of it to. Me 585 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 2: whereas obviously rocket, launches you, know aerospace it's very, public, 586 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: right you, know like there's no like the you, know 587 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: if the boat's not just going into the ocean then 588 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 2: dropping you off and then you, disappear right, yeah, YEAH 589 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: i don't. Know, okay, guys do you have any do 590 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: you have any like cool outer space stuff to talk? About, 591 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 2: guys you have any other outer That's casey's actual expertise 592 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 2: is is rocket. 593 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 4: SCIENCE i have one question about THE i was watching 594 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 4: some video and it said that it the. Crushing the 595 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 4: crushed so fast that it was like a, nanosecond like 596 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 4: it was before the. 597 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 3: Brain. 598 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 1: Yeah so, yeah so even registered even midlesecond and it 599 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: takes like thirty milliseconds for the nervous. 600 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 4: System yeah, yeah, yeah so it was like it was 601 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 4: before the. Brain it even registered that it saw. Something 602 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 4: there's something, happened, Right but what it what really tripped 603 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 4: me out was that apparently there was an explosion that 604 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 4: happened because the air has to release that that's inside 605 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: the vessel that it said it happened so fast with 606 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 4: the pressure and the air that the heat and there 607 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 4: equal this the heat of the sun which turned them 608 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 4: into mush like all in a, nanosecond like in a 609 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 4: percentage of a. 610 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 3: SECOND i, mean because that's That i'm wondering that was that. 611 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 3: CAT i, mean it was A i'm not. 612 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 4: TRYING i, mean it makes to, me but also LIKE 613 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 4: i can't there's NO i know. 614 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: SCIENCE i don't know the science behind it to say 615 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 3: if it didn't make, sense you know WHAT i. 616 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: MEAN i Mean i'm not a scientist, either BUT i 617 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: do know that heat on a fucking you, know on 618 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: a fundamental, level is molecules moving extremely, quickly, right and 619 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: if those molecules are moving fast as, Fuck i'm SURE 620 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 1: i got hot as hell in there. 621 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 6: Too so, yeah And i'm, like What i'm thinking is 622 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 6: some of those basic uh equations then of like that 623 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 6: govern how gases Behave you've got kind of like THE 624 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 6: pv equals and our teething pressure times volume, equals you, 625 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 6: know a bunch of coefficients, temperature so like as pressure, 626 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 6: increases you're going to get an increase like, There, uh 627 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 6: pressure goes as temperature, Goes like higher pressure higher temperature 628 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 6: is kind of a. Thing and so, yeah thinking about 629 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 6: that kind of, EVENT i mean it, is, yeah a 630 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 6: ridiculous amount of. Pressure if their vessel was not equipped 631 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 6: to equalize, that uh, yeah it makes sense to me 632 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 6: that you would have a lot like a big heat reaction. 633 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 6: There it was really. Interesting. Yeah, yeah they, said. 634 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 2: Like per body what it? 635 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 4: Tired like a million over a, million like like per 636 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 4: per square like some go, ahead just the just the. 637 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 2: WATER i think it was like fifteen thousand p. S 638 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: i but the actual pressure exerted by the vacuum created 639 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: if you loaded but the. 640 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 4: Per squerience with exqueriance over a human, body then there 641 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,839 Speaker 4: was five human. Bodies AND i think you're not even 642 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 4: it's the. VESSEL i THINK i think it would be 643 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 4: the vessel, alone because that's what the air the, body 644 00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 4: it was the size of a. Van THAT'S i, mean 645 00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 4: THAT'S i, mean based on what you're, saying that's like 646 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 4: there was a ton ton of ton of a ton 647 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 4: of pressure one at a split. Second SO i GUESS 648 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 4: i would equal the heat of the. 649 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 3: SUN i don't. 650 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 6: Know Sounds i'm going to look that up and see 651 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 6: the explanation for. That, yeah it's terrible either. Way and, 652 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 6: YEAH i truly can't believe that it was allowed to. 653 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 6: Happen that's the thing that keeps getting, me, like, yeah 654 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 6: it sounds like this vehicle was truly not supposed to 655 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 6: be down. 656 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 2: There so from an engineering, perspective it was a thumbs. 657 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 6: Down oh major thumbs down, too two big thumbs. 658 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,440 Speaker 1: Down so you, know you, know deep sea vessels like 659 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 1: this they have to worry about extreme, pressure right like you, 660 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 1: know for from the aeronautic, angle is it like the 661 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 1: opposite spectrum where you have to worry about like a 662 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,280 Speaker 1: lack of pressure and how to prevent, that like or. 663 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 6: In. Space, yeah when you are outside of The earth's 664 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 6: atmosphere and not dealing with any atmosphere at, all it's 665 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 6: the lack of pressure that you're kind of dealing, with 666 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 6: and so you want to make. Sure, basically it's always 667 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 6: all about. Balance you're wanting to make sure that you're 668 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 6: equalized and that there's not any kind of built up 669 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 6: pressure inside of your vessel that will cause an. Explosion so, 670 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 6: yeah that's why you, know space suits and whatnot are 671 00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 6: important for example for people who go out and do 672 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 6: space walks and. Everything. Like that's why when you see 673 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 6: in some of these, movies like you, know if a 674 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 6: person were to get like sucked out of a space 675 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 6: vehicle or something out in space and they kind of 676 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 6: just like you, know explode just because of the lack 677 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 6: of pressure out in space while there is pressure inside 678 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 6: of the human. Body and so, yeah you could say 679 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 6: it's kind of opposites with. Aircraft like here on the 680 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 6: planet there is still an atmosphere to deal, with so 681 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 6: it depends on what elevation you are flying. At but, 682 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,719 Speaker 6: yeah getting back to like just commercial, jets the ones 683 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 6: that we fly. On, definitely the higher up an elevation 684 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 6: that you, go the less pressure there. 685 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:18,360 Speaker 2: Is. 686 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 6: And that is why the sort of airflow and like 687 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 6: again equalization of our atmosphere inside of these aircraft is. 688 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,760 Speaker 4: Important you were talking about like how it takes tens 689 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 4: of thousands Of LIKE i, think did you say that 690 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 4: you have to go like tens of thousands of miles 691 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 4: per hour to get out of the the early order of, That, 692 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 4: Yeah i'm, wondering like how much does it take to 693 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 4: get back begin that there's no atmosphere in? Space like 694 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 4: how much pressure does it take to get? Back and 695 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 4: also how are you navigating being that there's no atmosphere 696 00:38:56,320 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 4: to use to kind of, Navigate like how you navigating in? 697 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 6: Space so coming so navigating in? SPACE i WOULD i 698 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 6: don't want to overstate. It i'd say the main thing 699 00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 6: there is the use of a use of the thrust 700 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 6: from like, propulsion like you, know elements and just direction of. Those, so, 701 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,920 Speaker 6: yeah you don't have an atmosphere to like get lyft 702 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 6: from from your control. Surfaces but like let's say you've 703 00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 6: got a little engine that's spouting out. Exhaust essentially the 704 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 6: force of that exhaust leaving the vehicle propels you, forward 705 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 6: so you can control the speed via. That and then 706 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 6: also you can control your direction by being able to 707 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 6: like gimble the direction of the exhaust of that. Engine, 708 00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 6: way so that is what's used to let's say you've 709 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 6: got a vehicle on, orbit that's what's used to help 710 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,240 Speaker 6: direct you back towards the planet to sort of start 711 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 6: to fall out of. Orbit and then you, know depending 712 00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 6: on the, application like depending on how you know high 713 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 6: your orbit is the elevation or altitude rather and depending 714 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 6: on the size of your, vehicle you kind of, yeah 715 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 6: you you get your additional velocity from your engines that 716 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 6: you have on, board so and, yeah as far as 717 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 6: what it takes to get back into The earth's, atmosphere 718 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 6: like velocity, wise you kind of just start to fall 719 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 6: back To earth and there's not a lot of, Control 720 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 6: like in terms of not that there's not a lot of, 721 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:12,359 Speaker 6: control but like you are in a lot of, ways 722 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 6: at least for lots of the re entry just at 723 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 6: the mercy of. Gravity and then you start to employ 724 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 6: your slow down. Tactics after a certain, point that's when you'll, see, 725 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:31,680 Speaker 6: well you'll have like the heat shields on certain, aircraft 726 00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 6: not only helping to decrease the amount of heat going 727 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 6: into the, vehicle but just helping to kind of, like you, 728 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 6: know slow you down just a little. Bit you'll eventually 729 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,440 Speaker 6: get your parachutes coming out the back that kind of a. 730 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 6: Thing but, yeah when it comes to coming back into the, 731 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 6: planet you're kind of just falling back and trying to 732 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 6: control the. 733 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 4: Fall it's so crazy that this this machine that was 734 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 4: used to travel through like to get out of the arth's, 735 00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 4: atmosphere go into, space come, back and then it pops a, parachute. 736 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,760 Speaker 3: Like you know WHAT i, Mean, like, yeah like it's really. 737 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 4: When it's getting it to where it's to, go and 738 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 4: then it's just, like you, know, hey this, works so 739 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 4: we're gonna pop a parachute right, quick you, know to 740 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 4: help slow it. 741 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 3: Down but that's funny about. 742 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 6: That but, yeah that is one cool thing about. Engineering 743 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 6: the best engineering takes into account like the simplest solutions 744 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 6: and so, like if it doesn't need to be more. 745 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,800 Speaker 3: Than a pair of right, right use a. 746 00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 6: PARACHUTE i am just double checking the escape, velocity by the, 747 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 6: way and escape velocity is the speed that you need 748 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 6: to you, know escape the surface of The earth and 749 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 6: it's forty thousand kilometers per hour. Thereabouts so, yeah tens 750 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 6: of thousands of miles an hour on that. 751 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 2: Quarter that doesn't sound that doesn't sound fun to me. 752 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 2: EITHER kg you. Are you, know it's been so cool 753 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 2: for those of us who've known you for a long 754 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 2: time to see you getting some recognition lately for being 755 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,319 Speaker 2: such an awesome trailblazer in your. Field BUT i know 756 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 2: you were On netflix's Adh Twist scientists. Special you know 757 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 2: you're a rock star in our. Family but can you 758 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 2: just share a little bit of your, journey you, know 759 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 2: being you, Know nigerian immigrant family and growing up in 760 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 2: Southern california and being obviously very successful black woman in, Engineering, 761 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,319 Speaker 2: like can you just share a little bit with our, 762 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 2: LISTENERS i guess about what your journey has. 763 00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 6: Been, Sure, yeah like you, Said nigerian. IMMIGRANTS i was 764 00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:44,280 Speaker 6: born In. Nigeria i'm the first born and we came, 765 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 6: here my parents AND i WHEN i was a. Toddler 766 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 6: we got To la in nineteen eighty five and my 767 00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 6: parents were immediately just hustling to make you, know life for. 768 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 6: Us i've got two younger siblings who were both born 769 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:06,839 Speaker 6: In la and, yeah Being nigerian education was like top 770 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 6: of the mind for the. Family so we are all 771 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,080 Speaker 6: people always note that me and my siblings are all very, 772 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,719 Speaker 6: accomplished AND i feel like we don't think too much 773 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 6: about it because it was very just this is what 774 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 6: it's going to. Be my brother is also an, engineer 775 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,760 Speaker 6: he's a software, engineer and my sister's a. Lawyer and, uh. 776 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 2: Which which which one of your parents most feel like 777 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 2: needed to do a little bit? More is it is 778 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:35,759 Speaker 2: like which which one of you did not get enough 779 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 2: degrees for your mom and? 780 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 6: Dad it's so funny you say that my parents are one, 781 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 6: thing but LIKE i have had an aunt once comment 782 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 6: like why couldn't one of you guys have been a? 783 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 6: Doctor like why didn't you like even things out a 784 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 6: little bit like too many, Engineers so that that is 785 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 6: the funny thing About Nigeria's but, yeah as far as, 786 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 6: Me i've always loved math and science AND i kind 787 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,880 Speaker 6: of homed in on engineering and high school WHEN i 788 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,799 Speaker 6: realized that as far as sciences, GO i prefer physics to. 789 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:18,520 Speaker 6: Biology LIKE i THOUGHT i was going to be a 790 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,400 Speaker 6: doctor for a, while BUT i decided to leave the 791 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,400 Speaker 6: biology side of, things and Then i've always loved, space 792 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 6: so aerospace engineering was my. CHOICE i went TO ucla 793 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 6: and studied. That it was, hard BUT i got. 794 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 2: Through and, yeah just to be, clear the way that 795 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 2: my wife And cage became, friends they sang in the 796 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 2: same group together AT. UCLA i was like one of 797 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,799 Speaker 2: a couple like roadies basically for that. Group but it 798 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 2: was like obviously heavy liberal arts emphasis and so Like 799 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 2: shar would be talking about taking a religion class with 800 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,320 Speaker 2: someone who is like like with valors when he's, like, 801 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 2: oh and we were reading, this and THEN kg would 802 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 2: be over there figuring out like double checking the escape philosophy. 803 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 6: Man speaking of our singing. Group, NOW i really did 804 00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 6: like it was such a highlight experience of my time 805 00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 6: in college being in that singing group random, voices BECAUSE 806 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 6: i got to meet so many people just doing different 807 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 6: things from. Me it was cool to be an engineer 808 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,760 Speaker 6: who had religious studies major for a really good, friend 809 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,920 Speaker 6: AND i wouldn't have it any other. Way. Yeah, so, 810 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 6: Yeah i've been working in my field. Now geez graduated 811 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,319 Speaker 6: in two thousand and, seven which was sixteen years. Ago 812 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:41,719 Speaker 6: NOW i can't believe. It, yeah we are all old and, 813 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 6: Yeah i've done a lot of different things in the. 814 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,320 Speaker 6: INDUSTRY i did work on aircraft for my first seven 815 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 6: or eight years or, so but, again space has always 816 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 6: been my first, love and So i've always been trying 817 00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:01,560 Speaker 6: to find my way towards doing that. Exclusively sorry if 818 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 6: you heard, that that's my. Dog and, yeah so NOW 819 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:13,040 Speaker 6: i work on the design of space vehicle, mechanisms like, 820 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:20,839 Speaker 6: mechanisms just any moving mechanical. Assembly and, yeah as far 821 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 6: as ada twist that, WAS i feel like that was 822 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 6: just one of these Lucky universe. THINGS i got a 823 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 6: message from one of the producers of the live action 824 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 6: segments of this animated. Show this would have been In, 825 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 6: OCTOBER i think of twenty. Twenty she said she'd gotten 826 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,400 Speaker 6: my name from a mutual contact that we had in 827 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 6: the aerospace. Industry said that they were trying to make 828 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,880 Speaker 6: a kids, like you, know a series of science videos for. 829 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,960 Speaker 6: Kids asked IF i would be, interested AND i just 830 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 6: kind of got into the mode of saying yes to 831 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 6: the next. THING i didn't know what this. Was she 832 00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 6: asked IF i would like to meet to, talk AND i, 833 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 6: said and, SURE i can meet to. Talk and after 834 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,120 Speaker 6: that she was, Like, okay maybe we can now get 835 00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 6: together and have a brainstorming session about things you might 836 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 6: be able to talk. About AND i was, like, sure 837 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 6: we can do. THAT i just kept saying yes and, yes, 838 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,719 Speaker 6: yes until we recorded these, videos and then they told 839 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 6: me this is going to be For. Netflix this is 840 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 6: based off of these kids books and you, know all 841 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:23,399 Speaker 6: that kind of. Stuff AND i initially started saying yes 842 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 6: BECAUSE i really do love outreach and just talking to, 843 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 6: people but especially kids and like you, know young students 844 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:40,000 Speaker 6: about stem, stuff you, know science, engineering and this seemed 845 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 6: like a good way to do that on a grand. 846 00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 6: Scale and it has been really cool to hear from 847 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 6: not only like friends who've been watching the show with their, 848 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 6: kids but like you, know strangers just talking about how 849 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 6: cool it was to see me talking about some of 850 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 6: the stuff That i've gotten to work. ON i get 851 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,240 Speaker 6: really excited WHEN i see kids excited about science. Stuff. 852 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 6: YEAH i think science and math Are they're often taken 853 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,319 Speaker 6: for granted as just like hard or, like you, know 854 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 6: only very special people can really get into. Them AND 855 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 6: i don't think that has to be the. Case you, 856 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,239 Speaker 6: know not everybody has to grow up to become an 857 00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 6: engineer or. Whatever BUT i think we can all do. 858 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 6: SCIENCE i think we can all you, know, understand you, 859 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 6: know at least some basics of. Math it's just a 860 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:38,399 Speaker 6: matter of being encouraged in. That AND i, mean, yeah 861 00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,399 Speaker 6: what you guys have done here has been. Science you've 862 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,920 Speaker 6: been asking the questions and being curious and like you, 863 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 6: know testing hypotheses and all that kind of. 864 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 2: Stuff are you giving us honor aid? Doctorates? 865 00:49:49,760 --> 00:50:01,560 Speaker 6: Yes i'm bestowing all. RIGHT. 866 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,799 Speaker 2: Kg thank you so much for making time for us 867 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 2: and answering some some some very elementary. Questions we really appreciate. 868 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:08,520 Speaker 2: It thanks for coming. 869 00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 3: Out appreciate so. 870 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 6: Much it's good to talk to you guys so much. 871 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,600 Speaker 2: Fun our thanks TO kg for hopping. On we didn't 872 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 2: talk too much about. It but AS i mentioned at 873 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 2: the end, THERE kg is also a very talented musician, singer, singer, 874 00:50:22,040 --> 00:50:26,080 Speaker 2: songwriter and you can search her On. INSTAGRAM Kg sojo 875 00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 2: Bi uh And uh follow her there for all music 876 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,240 Speaker 2: and science. Purposes but, yeah that was that was. AWESOME 877 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:35,840 Speaker 2: i love the idea of doing a like you, know 878 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 2: maybe sometime In july we have readers sending questions like 879 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 2: ask a, scientist and THEN kg could explain them as 880 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,279 Speaker 2: simply as. POSSIBLE i think that would be a lot of. 881 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,839 Speaker 3: FUN i think it just, yeah she was so much fun. 882 00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 4: Though we should have her on as much as, possible, 883 00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,080 Speaker 4: honestly for. 884 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:54,399 Speaker 2: Sure all, right that's all the time we. Got we'll 885 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 2: be back On. Wednesday thanks for, listening thanks for fucking with. 886 00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:58,279 Speaker 2: Us we'll see us. 887 00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,640 Speaker 3: Soon bye by. 888 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 4: Bye