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Speaker 1: I say a stand back, Patrick Walkers and Kyle Yeoman's.
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Speaker 1: It is a Talking Thursday here from the headquarters of
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. We're previewing the Dallas Cowboys in the
Speaker 1: Inna Annapolis Colts hit his Week thirteen of the NFL
Speaker 1: season alongside Patrick nose Walker Isaiah. Stand back. We've got
Speaker 1: Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's. Gentlemen, how
Speaker 1: are we doing? Fantastic? I am. It's a little fridgid
Speaker 1: out there, Kyle. A little bit of fridgid just for now.
Speaker 1: It's okay, maybe frantic in here a little bit, okay,
Speaker 1: just from the playing the indoor. It'll bounce back tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: tomorrow is supposed to be back in the seventies, is
Speaker 1: it really it is supposed to be. What's the weather
Speaker 1: for this weekend? Um, it's supposed to rain on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Stop freaking grand there, Yeah, stop it. We'll be back
Speaker 1: to Oh I don't see any chance of rain on
Speaker 1: Sunday right now, we'll be back to spring. And I
Speaker 1: saw that yes day on my phone. Oh it changed
Speaker 1: up tomorrow. I mean, look at it right now. It
Speaker 1: isn't yo, yeah, buddy, So don't trust it. Pregame Yeah,
Speaker 1: on our parade, you trust te pregame live. If it's
Speaker 1: going to rain, will be inside the stadium either way.
Speaker 1: But if it's say, if it's going to rain, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be out, or if it's not gonna rain, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be outside the stadium. So of course, pray for
Speaker 1: no rain on Sunday. It's not gonna rain. It ain't raining.
Speaker 1: It's not happening. We're not working. We need y'all there.
Speaker 1: There you go, We need y'all there with the signs
Speaker 1: and everything. We're turning up. Each talking Cowboys sign that
Speaker 1: you see will be one of two things. It would
Speaker 1: be one a picture with Isaiah and myself. We will
Speaker 1: definitely take a picture of Patrick makes an appearance out there.
Speaker 1: He'll take a photo as well. Right, right, I'll double down.
Speaker 1: What about we give a shout out of the person's name.
Speaker 1: Deal here, deal, So there's the second thing. The third
Speaker 1: thing I was gonna say, Isaiah would even sign your poster.
Speaker 1: He'll sign the post, right, how about that? Right? Sharpe
Speaker 1: a little bit. You don't want our autographs. But Isaiah's
Speaker 1: actually saying something. So he's a somebody now. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: we're looking forward to seeing you out at and T Stadium.
Speaker 1: Pregame live two pm Central time. But get there early,
Speaker 1: get in the plaza early. Security. Yeah, you can get
Speaker 1: your own security out there, thank goodness. Probably needs some
Speaker 1: security detail. I'm gonna sit. That's that's that's one way
Speaker 1: to spend security details. That's what it is. They want
Speaker 1: to protect you. They're a high valued asset. Right, Um,
Speaker 1: I could joke there, but I didn't do it. All Right,
Speaker 1: let's do some news and notes because we've got a
Speaker 1: preview the Colts defense against the Cowboys offense. Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: and company looking to try and continue some of the
Speaker 1: success that they've had each of the last two days,
Speaker 1: and they'll try and do so after we saw the
Speaker 1: first injury report of the weekend yesterday. So the Cowboys
Speaker 1: um coming off with their many by much much needed
Speaker 1: many buy so they could get risked in recovery from
Speaker 1: that illness the virus that have made its rounds here
Speaker 1: recently in the building, so their injury list is greatly
Speaker 1: reduced over it was a couple of weeks ago, but
Speaker 1: the illness book has sank its teeth into Trevon Diggs
Speaker 1: and Michael Gallup both were DNP which did not participate
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Both are expected to play. However, there's obviously
Speaker 1: plenty of time between yesterday and Sunday's game, so that's
Speaker 1: that's the silver lining is that they both had plenty
Speaker 1: of time to rest and recover. But prepare for the
Speaker 1: possibility that one or both of them continue to be
Speaker 1: DNP this week as the Cowboys give them time to
Speaker 1: do just that. Anthony Barr, with his reaggravated hamstring, made
Speaker 1: some progress. He was back at practice in a limited capacity.
Speaker 1: Jay Ron Curse and de Marcus Lawrence both joined him
Speaker 1: limited as well. Jay Ron Curse obviously dealing with the
Speaker 1: shoulder injury, but he battled through that very same shoulder
Speaker 1: injury to a mass nearly sixty snaps, sixty very effective
Speaker 1: and productive snaps against the New York Giants, and then
Speaker 1: of course many body comes after that. He should be
Speaker 1: a little bit better. Spoke with iron On yesterday, asked him, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, flat out, how are you feeling. Are you
Speaker 1: looking like you're a goal for Sunday? And he said,
Speaker 1: I'm as good as I'm going to be in December.
Speaker 1: And he said, I'm going to do everything I can
Speaker 1: to fight through it. So but it's to your point yesterday,
Speaker 1: as there in December, who is healthy? Nobody? All right?
Speaker 1: So j Ron Curse sounds like he's going to be
Speaker 1: a goal as long as there is no there are
Speaker 1: no setbacks. And to Marcus Lawrence, same foot issue that
Speaker 1: he's been dealing with along with the other bad foot
Speaker 1: and the bad left knee and the bad right knee.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think d law is gonna go though, guys,
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's gonna go. I think he's gonna play.
Speaker 1: He's gonna go. He's been going at this point. Flipping
Speaker 1: to the Indianapolis Coats, most notable would be obviously nickelback
Speaker 1: Kenny Moore, the second who did not practice an ankle
Speaker 1: injury suffered on Monday night football against the Steelers. It
Speaker 1: does not look like more it's going to be able
Speaker 1: to go, especially on a short week, and that would
Speaker 1: be a massive loss, huge loss of the coach secondaries.
Speaker 1: He did not look good in that game either. When
Speaker 1: he hobbled off the field, it was not It wasn't good.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, did not they cart him back?
Speaker 1: He hobbled off the field, but I think he wrote
Speaker 1: the cart back to the l might be right. I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure he wrote the cart back to the locker room.
Speaker 1: Not off of the field, but back to locker room. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if in fact he can't go, which is what
Speaker 1: it looks like, then a huge hole in the secondary
Speaker 1: of the Coats defense. But that's going to be news
Speaker 1: and notes for the day keeping Alan, Michael Gallup and
Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs. As it stands, everybody on the Cowboys injury
Speaker 1: report is expected to play. I want to say, with
Speaker 1: the exception of Anthony, barring the exception being he did
Speaker 1: reaggravate it recently, let's just let his play out and
Speaker 1: see when he actually gets back on the field. Because
Speaker 1: he reaggravated it on that Saturday prior to the what
Speaker 1: was that Viking the Vikings game? Ye, yeah, because he
Speaker 1: was going to go into his home or his former team.
Speaker 1: So I mean, even with the mini buy, that's less
Speaker 1: than two weeks since he's aggravated that. So that doesn't
Speaker 1: surprise me that they want to take that slow correct.
Speaker 1: Is there a chance that he even pops up on
Speaker 1: the IR list or is it a little too late
Speaker 1: for that by this point? I don't think they put
Speaker 1: him on IR not not going into the month of December,
Speaker 1: because that would guarantee he's out for four weeks, and
Speaker 1: you at that point you wouldn't get him back into
Speaker 1: the end of December and then have to kind of
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a complete ramp up process for the
Speaker 1: playoffs because he's played this season for the Cowboys, but
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be in top form by then, and they
Speaker 1: don't need the roster spot, particularly with the release of
Speaker 1: Terrell Basham a couple of days ago. James Washington's twenty
Speaker 1: one day window got activated yesterday, So if they make
Speaker 1: that move on Washington, you gotta see how Tyron Smith
Speaker 1: plays out effective next week. Bottom line is Cowboys don't
Speaker 1: need the spot, so there's no pressure to move Anthony
Speaker 1: bar to IR and they're just gonna let it play
Speaker 1: out at this point. So a couple of roster moves
Speaker 1: that will happen soon. I mean, you'll pull up some
Speaker 1: guys from the practice squad, but you don't anticipate anything
Speaker 1: happening this week with Washington being completely or he's already
Speaker 1: been pulled up, all right, ninety nine point nine nine
Speaker 1: nine percent unlikelihood that Washington is going to be moved
Speaker 1: to the active roster, Like, that's just I don't see
Speaker 1: how that's fathomable. I said it yesterday, and my eyes
Speaker 1: would be on to Carson mcn is on Tech because
Speaker 1: they called him. They elevated him from the practice squad
Speaker 1: on last with a Saturday preceding Thanks Oh yeah, Thanksgiving,
Speaker 1: but they register him inactive. That still counts as a
Speaker 1: call up. So I think that instead of playing that game,
Speaker 1: they're just going to go right, this is going to
Speaker 1: go ahead and activate Tach McKinley. Now we'll see if
Speaker 1: that happens this week. But that's that's what my gut
Speaker 1: tells me. I like it. I like it a lot.
Speaker 1: Get him back into the fold if with us. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're going to preview the Cowboys offense here, but I
Speaker 1: do want to talk a little James Washington. Can he
Speaker 1: add something to this offense? What does he add if
Speaker 1: he is available and he is healthy. I think he's
Speaker 1: a possession guy. He's a physical, physical receiver. If he's healthy.
Speaker 1: How is that different from what you have already? I
Speaker 1: think he is a more experienced Nora Brown. Okay, I
Speaker 1: probably put it like that just in terms of games.
Speaker 1: I know they're probably the same age, same age has
Speaker 1: been in terms of raps in actual on field in
Speaker 1: game receiver reps, catches all that jazz. I think James
Speaker 1: Washington probably has the edge on that one. And so
Speaker 1: we've seen Noah Brown be effective. We know what he
Speaker 1: brings to the table when called upon. They haven't called
Speaker 1: upon him as of late, since really since Dad came up,
Speaker 1: they haven't called on him much. But I think that
Speaker 1: James Washington ads that element to it. I don't expect
Speaker 1: him coming back to be the same explosive guy that
Speaker 1: he once was. He was never utilized as that in
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh because there's so many guys that were around him.
Speaker 1: But he possesses those capabilities here. I foresee him being
Speaker 1: an inside guy that is a possession receiver that gives
Speaker 1: you just another option. And you know what I loved,
Speaker 1: absolutely loved about James Washington coming out of Okay State
Speaker 1: was his ability to go up and attack the ball
Speaker 1: in his time at Okay State and even those in
Speaker 1: the athletic department, the fans that at that point there
Speaker 1: was a lot of dis to be seen in his
Speaker 1: game at that point, the way he played, he attacked
Speaker 1: the ball violently, which kind of shades of Michael Gallop
Speaker 1: in that aspect. I think it would be interesting, and
Speaker 1: I agree with Isaiah, I don't. I don't foresee a
Speaker 1: situation where whenever Washington gets on the field for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys that he's instantly going to hit the ground running.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who needed some added time,
Speaker 1: added weeks to get over to get past the mental
Speaker 1: part of it. And when he gets back at game,
Speaker 1: in the game and that game speed, you're gonna need
Speaker 1: more time to get back over that mental hurdle. But
Speaker 1: when and if he does get back to you know,
Speaker 1: prime James Washington for him, which is not what we
Speaker 1: saw in Pittsburgh. But I'm talking about what we saw
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State. Then it gives you a possession receiver
Speaker 1: who can also stretch the field. Yes, and that's going
Speaker 1: to make it a lot easier for Michael Gallop to
Speaker 1: then stretch the field, because that's one part of Michael
Speaker 1: Gallup's game that we haven't seen reappear just yet in
Speaker 1: his return in twenty twenty two. And I think it's
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys are great evidence on things given they're
Speaker 1: using Michael Gallop as the possession receiver, right, so if
Speaker 1: James Washington come in and help in that capacity, it's
Speaker 1: going to free up Michael Gallop to kind of get
Speaker 1: down the field more. And then you can mix a
Speaker 1: match and say, okay, we'll Gallop this is your goal route.
Speaker 1: But then next time you can say, okay, Gallup, this
Speaker 1: is your possession route. And you know, James, this is
Speaker 1: your goal route. And all the whole while you got
Speaker 1: CD doing CD things, so you know, and of course,
Speaker 1: pink elephant in the room, Odell Beckham Junior will see
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys can't get him. But and to that point,
Speaker 1: before I toss it back to you, for those that
Speaker 1: are wondering the activation of James Washington's twenty one day
Speaker 1: practice window has zero, zero, zero bearing on the Cowboys
Speaker 1: pursuit of Odell Beckham Junior. That is still very much
Speaker 1: a thing. If anything, Odell Beckham Junior's signing would affect
Speaker 1: James Washington more than anything that is correct. It would affect, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it would affect his role and how much he's utilized.
Speaker 1: Didn't where he would go if the Cowboys elected to
Speaker 1: go and sign Odell Beckham Junior, and vice versus Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior elects to sign with the Cowboys, because he
Speaker 1: does have other suitors. The Giants, the Bills, the Chiefs
Speaker 1: all in that conversation, and of course the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: been the most talked about one of them. But you
Speaker 1: also brought up Michael Gallup, and I liked what I
Speaker 1: saw about from Michael Gallup on Thursday. We're talking about
Speaker 1: using him as a possession receiver. He showed that again
Speaker 1: he's got those clamps, he's got those hands, I mean,
Speaker 1: and he gave them to you on Thursday. He caught
Speaker 1: those hands right. Yeah. Eight targets, five receptions, sixty three yards,
Speaker 1: which is a season high in all three of those
Speaker 1: categories for Michael Gallup. When you watched the film, Isaiah
Speaker 1: and you went back and kind of looked at it,
Speaker 1: his yards per target was hefty down. I mean it
Speaker 1: was heftily down. However, is that the new role that
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup could find in this offense to allow him
Speaker 1: to be utilized more. I think it's how they're utilizing him.
Speaker 1: I don't think that that Michael Gallup lacks any area
Speaker 1: of his game to be effective in any role that
Speaker 1: they put in it that you to choose to utilize
Speaker 1: them in, even after the injury. Even after the injury,
Speaker 1: I think he still has ability to get down the field.
Speaker 1: I don't think that he has one hundred percent confidence
Speaker 1: yet in that, but I think that he still possesses
Speaker 1: that ability. So we as you were talking about James
Speaker 1: Washington and him trying to come back, you know, I
Speaker 1: was in that same position coming off a foot injury.
Speaker 1: Like it takes a minute like you in practice and
Speaker 1: in training like these are all calculated steps. Everything that
Speaker 1: I'm doing is calculated. I might be doing it quote
Speaker 1: unquote full speed, but I'm calculating how I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: my foot down, how hard I'm going to press in
Speaker 1: the game is instinctive. It's instinctive, and there's gonna be
Speaker 1: something that you do in the game that's instinctive that
Speaker 1: you're like, oh crap, and you do it. You're like,
Speaker 1: it didn't hurt, right in a hurt. You're good, you know,
Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, here we go. Let's like a
Speaker 1: quarterback take it that first hip running back, taking that
Speaker 1: first time, you prove something to yourself and because you're
Speaker 1: not calculating anymore, now you're back to you know, you're
Speaker 1: back to reacting, you're back to playing the game. So
Speaker 1: much like that, I think there's gonna be something like
Speaker 1: that for Gallup where he just goes out of he
Speaker 1: gasses on somebody. He's like, oh crap, you think that's
Speaker 1: already happened. I don't think he's see that. I don't
Speaker 1: hit that six gear yet. Okay, I don't think he's
Speaker 1: hit his six gear yet. I think he uses his five.
Speaker 1: His five is fashioned and most of his most six.
Speaker 1: So I think that once he's gonna hit there's gonna
Speaker 1: be something that happens where he hits that six gear
Speaker 1: and everybody's like, oh crap. There goes the version of
Speaker 1: Gallup we're seeing is that possession guy with the big
Speaker 1: freaking lego hands and in the ballerina toes so he
Speaker 1: did in Los Angeles against the Rams. He's showing every
Speaker 1: aspect of his game that people had questions about, because
Speaker 1: coming into twenty twenty two, the big thing was, oh,
Speaker 1: well he's just a go guy, right, Okay, Well, now
Speaker 1: you're seeing he can do everything, which I think sets
Speaker 1: the stage for him. His hands, what you were talking
Speaker 1: about called his the hands that he displayed. These were
Speaker 1: not chess catches. He's wearing body cradles, these dudes. These
Speaker 1: were contested catches with a dog on, you know, just
Speaker 1: I don't even know these dog on, a little spider
Speaker 1: monkeys sitting on his back, and he was snagging the ball,
Speaker 1: reaching away from his body, using his hands, being strong
Speaker 1: at the point of contact, being strong at the catch,
Speaker 1: and then reeling that thing in, shedding guys off them,
Speaker 1: running through guys. I mean, this dude was playing physical
Speaker 1: big ball. So to your to you guys point, that's
Speaker 1: what he showed. And what I'm saying is he's never
Speaker 1: lacked that. They've just never called him to show that, right,
Speaker 1: They've never utilized him in that regard, So now they
Speaker 1: are They're like, Okay, you're our possession guy right now, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is where Dad's going with the ball in these situations. Oh,
Speaker 1: by the way, you can't get down the field too.
Speaker 1: Let everybody forget about that. And there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: time that we're gonna see before the end of the
Speaker 1: season where he takes off on a goal route and
Speaker 1: everybody's like, god, dog, I forgot goes. And that was
Speaker 1: because last season the possession the role of possession receiver
Speaker 1: was split more so between the Mark Cooper and Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 1: On any given any given the rep, it was either
Speaker 1: Mark Cooper stealing somebody's ankles on a route and there
Speaker 1: you go, you know, third down conversion, or it was
Speaker 1: Cooper on a goal route on that particular rep. And
Speaker 1: now CD it was the quick slant, the inside the
Speaker 1: possession guy. Well, now without a Mark Cooper, CD has
Speaker 1: had to become more of that outside guy and more
Speaker 1: of that get down the field guy, and that leaves
Speaker 1: Gallop to step up. Now, before Galloper turned it was
Speaker 1: Noah Brown, but now with Gallip back, it kind of
Speaker 1: moved to him. But you had another receiver being James
Speaker 1: Washington once he gets back to form, and or Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham Junior once he gets back to form, and that
Speaker 1: just it frees up Michael Gallup to get back on
Speaker 1: those goal routes. But what should really terrify opposing secondaries
Speaker 1: when it comes to you know, not just the Cowboys
Speaker 1: or our receiver group as a whole, but when it
Speaker 1: comes to Michael Gallup is you've now seen that he
Speaker 1: can do it all. Therefore you can't just simply defend
Speaker 1: him as a nine route runner like you have to
Speaker 1: defend him on the whole tree. Yeah, he's got it all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you got to defend him on the whole tree. It's
Speaker 1: good at it all too. That's one of the things
Speaker 1: about Michael Gallup cook coming out of Colorado's state, he
Speaker 1: always had a diverse route tree. He had that initially.
Speaker 1: The burst is something that he kind of continued to
Speaker 1: grow into and to kind of learn some of the
Speaker 1: route running ability that we saw from Amari Cooper during
Speaker 1: his time here too. That certainly helped along the way
Speaker 1: as well. I'm excited to see Gallup hit that next
Speaker 1: gear because I think he has it. I really, Michael
Speaker 1: or in conversations that you and I have had with
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. He thinks he has it too. It's coming.
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy knows that there's something else down the line,
Speaker 1: something else down the line with Michael Gallup. That extra
Speaker 1: gear is going to be there now. With that extra
Speaker 1: gear from Michael Gallup, who else could step up on
Speaker 1: that Cowboys offense and haven't asked extra gear of their own.
Speaker 1: We're going to answer that question and a whole lot
Speaker 1: more previewing the Cowboys offense versus the Colts defense when
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Speaker 1: fans out there because Isaiah and I don't get let
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Speaker 1: Haileys freaking Mary is going down. That's going down. But
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Speaker 1: what's gonna be the nickname? Yes? So a lot of
Speaker 1: names go through, a ton of names to go through
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Speaker 1: it with your chest Friday nine, if you want to
Speaker 1: watch your live all right, I just asked the question
Speaker 1: going into the break, Michael Gallup, you expect an extra
Speaker 1: gear out of Michael Gallup? Who on the offensive side,
Speaker 1: Isaiah outside of MG has that extra gear that eg
Speaker 1: little extra gear action putting that nos that night shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah that we haven't serious payton hindershot. Why is that ponin?
Speaker 1: I like it? Very talented, very explosive. Haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: haven't seen it. We've seen it. Take the top off
Speaker 1: the oh, the middle Nasty tours. Oh, he walks around
Speaker 1: like that. He has that dog in him. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: see you with odbum. Give him the rock, give him
Speaker 1: the rock. He's a guy that give him to Give
Speaker 1: him the ball in his hand and watch what he
Speaker 1: does with it. And I think that he's gonna be
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play integral, roll down the road,
Speaker 1: down the road when when, hopefully when playoffs present themselves,
Speaker 1: or hopefully, if we keep continue taking care of business,
Speaker 1: playoffs present themselves. I think he's the guy that everybody's like, crap, Shoot,
Speaker 1: we worried about these other cats, and here it goes
Speaker 1: this dude. Right, he's just that dangerous of a guy.
Speaker 1: And they're just keeping him quiet. They just keeping him quiet,
Speaker 1: and I'm not keeping him quiet. But what is that? Well,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. Is that a good thing or a
Speaker 1: bad thing because as a rookie, don't you need those
Speaker 1: types of opportunities. And he's getting snaps. He had a
Speaker 1: two yard touch. There's four tight ends that are all
Speaker 1: being utilized. Correct, this is not a typical team. You're
Speaker 1: using two guys right, and the other guys are doing
Speaker 1: a protection and you know on the wings like these.
Speaker 1: All four of these guys are being utilized throughout the
Speaker 1: whole game, special teams and offense. And I think that
Speaker 1: he's just kind of gotten caught into washing. I think
Speaker 1: Keller Moore, I would assume, and I hope that Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore has some things him and Linda Welles has some
Speaker 1: things in the bag for a hinder shot. They were
Speaker 1: already showing it. Yeah, it's starting to leak out, you
Speaker 1: so what happened against the Giants with a two yard
Speaker 1: handoff for it's starting to leak out. And I love
Speaker 1: that you chose Peyton hinder shot, and I agree with that,
Speaker 1: but to not double down on it. Let's let's keep
Speaker 1: it in the tight end room. Though I still don't
Speaker 1: think we've seen and I agree wholeheartedly, but I still
Speaker 1: don't think we've even seen remotely what Jake Ferguson is capable.
Speaker 1: I think Ferguson, much like hinder Shot Um not only
Speaker 1: can Ferguson stretch the field in space good luck. Right,
Speaker 1: you've already seen Ferguson still some ankles. You've seen him
Speaker 1: hurdle a fur great air Fergie. Right, he's hurdling guys.
Speaker 1: He's shaking guys. If you go back and look at
Speaker 1: what he did on the touchdown in Philadelphia, get the
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. He could do it in space.
Speaker 1: He can take it down the scene if you need.
Speaker 1: But he's also a solid blocker as well. I think
Speaker 1: we're just seeing things get started with Ferguson, but also
Speaker 1: with Hindershot, and then you com bind those two together,
Speaker 1: my old min there have been some fun tight ends
Speaker 1: as a part of the Cowboys organization in recent memory.
Speaker 1: I think that eighty two guy was he was pretty
Speaker 1: dark good, right, I mean Jason Witton was fantastic. He's
Speaker 1: pretty good. But as a room do you remember having
Speaker 1: so much excitement around I mean, yeah, individually Jason Winton,
Speaker 1: I mean gold Jacket went for a reason. But as
Speaker 1: a group have you ever been as excited about a
Speaker 1: tight end group? And that's this Cowboys organization. And I've
Speaker 1: beat the chair about it before. Linda Wells does not
Speaker 1: getting enough credit. He's a hell of a coach. He
Speaker 1: does not get enough credit. Facts facts, facts. Check the
Speaker 1: pregame every week, every week the Cowboy, Black Cowboy had
Speaker 1: crisp No And I listen, you can't say that there's
Speaker 1: there's a reason why I bring this up. There are
Speaker 1: too many coaches in this league that get buried. There's
Speaker 1: too many coaches that you know, we talked about McCarthy,
Speaker 1: we talked about the defensive coordinator, we talked about Kelly Moore.
Speaker 1: But then you gotta start talking about these positional guys, right,
Speaker 1: you got to talk about the Skip pizza, the world
Speaker 1: that Joe Philbin's Yeah, Joe Philbins, Who's who's freaking used
Speaker 1: puzzle pieces to put together? He knows everybody in this building,
Speaker 1: I mean head to tell Yeah, right, he's put these
Speaker 1: he's put this off the line together for a number
Speaker 1: of years. Right, And then you talk about what Joe Philbin, Yeah,
Speaker 1: including he knows everybody, yeah yeah, inside. But then he's
Speaker 1: talk about Skip Pete everywhere Skip Pete's gone. He's had
Speaker 1: at least a one two punch everywhere he's gone. He's
Speaker 1: had on one two puss, the development of backs. Then
Speaker 1: you go, then you come here and you talk about
Speaker 1: Linda Wells. Name one team that has four tight ends
Speaker 1: that all contribute. Name there's not one, and to what
Speaker 1: two of these guys weren't even and if anything, it
Speaker 1: would be one of those teams that would say are
Speaker 1: offensive geniuses, their next level thinkers. It's like the Sean
Speaker 1: mcvay's or the Andy Reids of the world that are
Speaker 1: just next level guys. They're not getting that type of
Speaker 1: credit because you're utilizing these guys in such a fun way.
Speaker 1: But it's also the not just the utilization, but the
Speaker 1: fact that you were developed enough talent and enough skills
Speaker 1: and contributing contributions from each guy on your depth chart.
Speaker 1: All four guys on your roster, at your position in
Speaker 1: your room are contributing in active every game and in
Speaker 1: confident and you can utilize them in every situation. You
Speaker 1: have four tight informations where all these guys are on
Speaker 1: the field simultaneously. That is amazing in terms of the
Speaker 1: work that he's done to put these guys in position
Speaker 1: to be utilized. Because most other teams in this league
Speaker 1: have three guys active, Two guys participate in two and
Speaker 1: two tight end sets and the third guy is really
Speaker 1: on field goal block and they're still developing Seth Green
Speaker 1: in the practice squad for he was even down there.
Speaker 1: You know why, because you have four guys that are
Speaker 1: produced it. It's unheard of. So I mean give him
Speaker 1: his freaking flowers and kudos to him for keeping these guys,
Speaker 1: forgetting these guys ready, because I don't think they were
Speaker 1: already at one point. No, no, right, So it's not
Speaker 1: just you just oh, we just had this much talent
Speaker 1: in the room. Now this is development you know, two
Speaker 1: rookies and McEwen was a developmental tight end an battled
Speaker 1: injury mqwen did in twenty twenty one. So uh no,
Speaker 1: the answer is no. I mean you can go back
Speaker 1: as far as you want to go back, and the
Speaker 1: answer is no. I mean, you're at best. You'll find
Speaker 1: a dynamic duel at some point in the Cowboy's history
Speaker 1: when it comes to tight ends um, and you will,
Speaker 1: but more often than not, especially in recent history, it's
Speaker 1: been who can compliment Jason Witten? Right, So it wasn't.
Speaker 1: Martell has been an unfortunately uh, you know it wasn't
Speaker 1: Facano unfortunately. Um but and then the Blake Jarwindolton showed
Speaker 1: this thing was supposed to be a thing, but then
Speaker 1: injury completely derailed potentially ended Jarwin's career. We'll see if
Speaker 1: he can never make it back in the league. So
Speaker 1: you come into you know, the offseason, and you're saying
Speaker 1: to yourself, well, you got Dalton shots on the franchise tag,
Speaker 1: that's a one year. Darwin is out of the situation.
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Well, Will McClay is, Stephen Jones,
Speaker 1: They strap up and they say okay, Jake ferguson fourth
Speaker 1: rounder and then paid Hindershot, which could have been a
Speaker 1: draft pick. He had the draft pick talent, fell to
Speaker 1: the ranks of the undrafted. Cowboys get him and paid Hindershot.
Speaker 1: Told our beloved Hailey Sutton on yesterday that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: were in on him, trying to get him as an
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. So the Cowboys stole him from the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: M okay. And now you're in a situation where you
Speaker 1: went from having Kelsey much right exactly. You went from
Speaker 1: having a tighten room with a massive question mark to
Speaker 1: a tighten room that's one of the most lethal in
Speaker 1: the league. And we haven't even seen them scratch the
Speaker 1: surface of their potential yet. This tighten room might be
Speaker 1: the differentiating factor in one or more of these potential
Speaker 1: playoff games. No, you're great. That's a great point because
Speaker 1: drafting Jake Ferguson, that was first seen Dallas. After they
Speaker 1: took their three picks in the first three rounds, you
Speaker 1: got a wide receiver, you got an add rusher, and
Speaker 1: of course you had the offensive tackle with Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: in the first round. After you got those three positions
Speaker 1: out of the way, the fourth round you could have
Speaker 1: put if you were a betting person, you could have
Speaker 1: put money. It was a tight end and heavy money.
Speaker 1: It was a tight end. It could have been anybody there.
Speaker 1: It really could have been. So Jake Ferguson, that selection
Speaker 1: that was made was going to be anybody that's a
Speaker 1: tight end, and that was a high, high draft prospect.
Speaker 1: The steel of the off season is Peyton hender Shot
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what that goes back to your
Speaker 1: point of being the gear or having that extra gear.
Speaker 1: The fact that he's the Steel of the off season
Speaker 1: and he hasn't even put up stats yet shows just
Speaker 1: what he can do. I think people are forgetting that
Speaker 1: Schultz and just just didn't coming here developed either. No,
Speaker 1: he didn't. No, it took some time, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, sometimes and sometimes spend it Kittles tight End University. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know you so, I mean, you
Speaker 1: got the coaches that Purtic obviously had a huge part
Speaker 1: in that. You know, I got offseason things, all that,
Speaker 1: All those things played a part in it. But you
Speaker 1: talk about somebody who wasn't even in a conversation of
Speaker 1: being one of the best in the leagues all of
Speaker 1: a sudden having a breakout years, all of a sudden
Speaker 1: being a franchise take. I mean, that's a there's development
Speaker 1: that happens there, you don't ye, not only here, not
Speaker 1: only position all right, responsibilities blocking, run, blocking, pass blocking,
Speaker 1: running routes, catching balls. They have more responsibility than everybody.
Speaker 1: Think about the last time you had a rookie tight
Speaker 1: End take the world by storm really hasn't happened. Even
Speaker 1: some of the guys that are the top names, the
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's, the George Kittle's, the Dallas Goddards, zach Ertz,
Speaker 1: none of those guys were those guys as rookies. Look
Speaker 1: at some of the most recent guys, Kyle Pitts, Jollanni Woods,
Speaker 1: I mean Jillanni Woods. You're gonna see on Sunday. These
Speaker 1: guys have not been big time players as rookies, but
Speaker 1: they still could be down. Was he still Pitts was
Speaker 1: the one exception, but even he wasn't living up to
Speaker 1: expectation either. So with that being said, Pitts has been
Speaker 1: the exception in that regard. However, he still hasn't even
Speaker 1: hit the ceiling that he's expected to hit in Atlantic
Speaker 1: until twenty three, Yeah, because he's out for the season.
Speaker 1: So tight end wise, this room is developing. There's talent there,
Speaker 1: there are places to go. And it takes me. It
Speaker 1: takes me back to a conversation I had with Coach
Speaker 1: Wells and training camp, and I believe Isaiah, you were
Speaker 1: sitting at the table. He's talking about the confidence. He's
Speaker 1: talking about the mindset that you have to instill on
Speaker 1: young tight ends. You got to be the first one
Speaker 1: to lay a hit. You got to be that one
Speaker 1: that initiates the physicality. That doesn't mean get a flag
Speaker 1: thrown on you. That doesn't mean do something stupid, but
Speaker 1: it means show that type of brit and set the
Speaker 1: tone early. And these guys have done that and they've
Speaker 1: opened up the passing game too. Before you take us
Speaker 1: a break, college, that what you're talking about, And I
Speaker 1: said at a gazillion times when dan Quinn your conversation
Speaker 1: came up, it's about culture. There's a culture for the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Within that culture, right, that's the umbrella, the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys culture. Then you have the dan Quinn culture,
Speaker 1: keller More culture. Right, offense and defense two totally different cultures, okay,
Speaker 1: and then within that you have positional cultures. Right, So
Speaker 1: you have to create the culture for your room when
Speaker 1: you're when you're unit steps out there, they are now
Speaker 1: a representative of you and everything that you put into
Speaker 1: them all in this entire time. So not only are
Speaker 1: they representing the star on their helmet, not only are
Speaker 1: they representing the unit as an offense, right, but they
Speaker 1: are representing their tight end groups. So when you see
Speaker 1: them do their celebrations, when you see them come out,
Speaker 1: and that is that is Linda Wales in that entire room,
Speaker 1: that is their vibe that they're putting out and anybody
Speaker 1: who wants to step foot in that room. Guess what
Speaker 1: you have to get on board with. So much better
Speaker 1: bring that energy when you're dealing with the tight ends.
Speaker 1: Really at a fun conversation, and you had a little
Speaker 1: bit of time as a tight end as well, so
Speaker 1: you know the type of responsibilities. You know the responsibilities
Speaker 1: that are there. It's like, give me out of here,
Speaker 1: give me back to the quarterback, Rod, give me out
Speaker 1: of here. All right, when we come back, let's take
Speaker 1: a look at the Colts defensive side of things. Are
Speaker 1: they still dangerous with guys like Yannick and Goakway on
Speaker 1: that defensive side of the football. And where can they
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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's gentlemen, Let's take a look at the Colts defense, Isaiah.
Speaker 1: When you've been looking at the film from Indie, what
Speaker 1: do they bring to the table that Dallas might struggle against,
Speaker 1: might struggle against, well, most likely to struggle against. Let's
Speaker 1: say it that way. I would say this defensive line
Speaker 1: is going to test the offensive line of Oars. Okay,
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of you see a lot of dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. It's so funny that I, you know,
Speaker 1: I've brought up the relationship between Gus Bradley and dan
Speaker 1: Quinn and how they you know they're from the same
Speaker 1: tree or dan Quinn's from history. Really, we didn't go
Speaker 1: back into history and you see a lot of it.
Speaker 1: You see a lot of these these things like, man,
Speaker 1: how the heck is he getting these matchups? Well, freak,
Speaker 1: that's the same thing that we see with Dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: So is it? Maybe it's the other way around? How
Speaker 1: to Dan Queen getting these matchups? But you see how
Speaker 1: he's able to line up just Bradley, that is his
Speaker 1: defensive linement, to create these one on one matchups at
Speaker 1: the defensive end position so that he could take advantage
Speaker 1: of his big dogs out there. Because he has some guys.
Speaker 1: He got some dude, he got some dudes. You know,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about that d line because I
Speaker 1: mentioned Yannick and Goquay. Yeah, they've also got Grover Stewart
Speaker 1: who's been playing really well in the interior this year.
Speaker 1: The Forest Buckner, former top ten pick. Absolute dude. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the number eleven ranked defense of lineman
Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Focus. Don't always look at the grades,
Speaker 1: but he has been playing well. And then Quitty Pay,
Speaker 1: who some of you might remember from the Draft Show
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He was a potential target.
Speaker 1: He was a guy Cowboys looked at pretty heavily, but
Speaker 1: as an edge Rusher out of Michigan. He went later
Speaker 1: in the first round, and you drafted this guy named
Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, so everything worked out for you. But those
Speaker 1: are the four guys up front and Gackway, Stewart, Buckner,
Speaker 1: and Pay. Like you said, they've got some pieces and
Speaker 1: he's doing a good job of aligning them properly so
Speaker 1: that the interior three guys, the center and the guards
Speaker 1: get consumed, right because you have to respect Buckner, I
Speaker 1: mean you just you just have to otherwise he'll freaking
Speaker 1: tarn issue writing. Damn it, you boy. So he's doing
Speaker 1: a good job of making those three interior lineman squeeze
Speaker 1: and he is isolating the crap out of these tackles.
Speaker 1: So Tyler Smith, strap up, buddy, because the Gackway is
Speaker 1: gonna be. Oh, he's gonna be over your head right um.
Speaker 1: And I think we're gonna be if we're going to
Speaker 1: be challenged in any regard, he's gonna be there because
Speaker 1: I think that they don't let's off Ton, but they
Speaker 1: add a lot of pressure and they do a good
Speaker 1: job of can restricting and condensing the pocket um offensively.
Speaker 1: For the Dallas Cowboys, they're gonna really stress us in
Speaker 1: every but it's because they couldn't afford with the secondary
Speaker 1: they have and you know Stefan Gilmore notwithstanding and Kenny
Speaker 1: Moore notwithstanding, with the secondary they have, they couldn't afford
Speaker 1: to send an extra guy, and especially from the linebacker
Speaker 1: cord neither, because Shaquille Leonard is on IR and that
Speaker 1: is a massive hole in the middle of that Coats defense.
Speaker 1: Shaquille Leonard is missed. If Shaquille Leonard is on the
Speaker 1: field against Philadelphia, that Red Sea doesn't part late in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, that allows Jalen Hurts that walk in touchdown. UM,
Speaker 1: So that's that's something to exploit. There is the center
Speaker 1: of that linebacker cord with Leonard gone for the season,
Speaker 1: potentially for the season, likely for the season. But for me,
Speaker 1: all eyes have to be on a guy like in
Speaker 1: gock Way. All eyes have to be on DeForrest Buckner.
Speaker 1: Quitty pay might be slowed even if he does play.
Speaker 1: He was out on Monday night with an ankle injury
Speaker 1: and he was limited on yesterday's injury reports, so he's
Speaker 1: dealing with that ankle issue might not be one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: so a little bit of a weak link there but
Speaker 1: for the most part, that defense a front for the
Speaker 1: Coats that's going to be there. That's their cash cow,
Speaker 1: that's their money pot. They don't take the ball away
Speaker 1: at a high rate. You know, they have one interception
Speaker 1: as the team high between three or four different guys,
Speaker 1: so they're not taking the ball away in the air,
Speaker 1: and then you lose, like I said, you lose Kenny
Speaker 1: Moore as your nickel corner. Massive lost there. So for me,
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys can win up front, the Cowboys offense
Speaker 1: wins this game fairly easily. No, I fairly completely agree
Speaker 1: in that regard. And you mentioned the middle of that
Speaker 1: Colts defense. I really like what I've seen from e J.
Speaker 1: Speed and the film that I've watched a little bit.
Speaker 1: Not what he's not shack Let's not getting twisted, however,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's by the way, he's DFW product. You
Speaker 1: went to North Crowley High School, and then for all
Speaker 1: of you Tarleton Texans out there, you probably remember miss
Speaker 1: e J. Speed drafted in the fifth round, the guy
Speaker 1: who's kind of been under the radar for the Colts
Speaker 1: for a little bit, but now he's getting a chance
Speaker 1: to kind of fill in and plug that gap. But
Speaker 1: it's because of the pressure upfront. It's because of that
Speaker 1: defensive line kind of clogging the way that he's been
Speaker 1: able to roam freely and play well. But I also
Speaker 1: want to talk about the secondary. He may be missing more.
Speaker 1: But they've got a guy on the other side named
Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore. Notwithstanding, you gotta talk about him, and then
Speaker 1: also Rodney McLeod. He's a good safety, good player, Julian Blackman.
Speaker 1: They've got some pieces there and they're confident with it.
Speaker 1: I mean, you think about the old Seattle, Okay, I
Speaker 1: know we talk about Dan Queen, we talk about the
Speaker 1: o Seattle. If you talk about the Seattle, you have
Speaker 1: to talk about Gus Bradley got to and what he
Speaker 1: wanted to do. What did he do? He had pressure
Speaker 1: up front, right, he played man coverage and that's what
Speaker 1: they do. That's what they do. That's exactly what they do.
Speaker 1: So in terms of winning up front, like you mentioned
Speaker 1: to see, if you went up front, you have a chance.
Speaker 1: If you struggle upfront, these guys are gonna be in
Speaker 1: your hip pocket and everything's gonna be contesting its stend
Speaker 1: the coverage windows, be it Stefane Gilmore or whomever, and
Speaker 1: we'll I'll say Gilmore or not with that it because
Speaker 1: I've seen him be able to hang with the best.
Speaker 1: But if you extend these coverage, these coverage windows against
Speaker 1: these cowboys receivers by way of dominating in the trenches
Speaker 1: against in god Kuoyan and these other guys you're going
Speaker 1: to you're asking a whole lot of that coach secondary
Speaker 1: to keep up with Ceedee Lamb and Michael Gallop and
Speaker 1: hell even Noah Brown and these four tight ends that
Speaker 1: we're talking about four two, two and a half seconds,
Speaker 1: three three and a half seconds. The coach secondary to
Speaker 1: me and looking at their film, they're only as successful
Speaker 1: as the shortage of time in coverage is. So the
Speaker 1: shorter of the time and coverage, the more dangerous they
Speaker 1: can be. As far as people user concerned. They still
Speaker 1: not showing me they can take the balls, so dependent
Speaker 1: on past correct but without that pass rush, those coverage
Speaker 1: windows start to expand and they can be exposed in
Speaker 1: that capacity. So it circles right back to the initial point,
Speaker 1: which is what Isaiah saying, And I agree, you have
Speaker 1: to win the trenches. Tyler Smith, strap up, Connor McGovern,
Speaker 1: strap up, Tyler be at a strap up. Zach Martin, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know here, Zach, do what you do. Terren Steele
Speaker 1: continue to be that role, greater in the run defense
Speaker 1: and effective in the past. But here's the big thing,
Speaker 1: and we talked about it this week and we're gonna
Speaker 1: keep talking about it until further notice. Penalties, no pre
Speaker 1: snap penalties. These guys are going to come after you
Speaker 1: and you just know it, and they're really good at
Speaker 1: rushing the pastor. But don't let that get you out
Speaker 1: of your self discipline when you're talking about young guys
Speaker 1: like Tyler Smith, Econor McGovern and hell even Terry Steele
Speaker 1: who's been fairly clean for most of the season, and
Speaker 1: the penalty front. But don't go getting into a false
Speaker 1: start situation, don't get into holding situations. Play clean discipline football,
Speaker 1: hold your feet, hold your anchor, keep your hands where
Speaker 1: they need to be, and let Dak Prescott in this
Speaker 1: run game set you up for victory. Yeah, Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit yesterday and he was
Speaker 1: asked about the penalties. How do you work on that
Speaker 1: in the middle of a season. Really, it's disciplined, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what it boils down to is getting the discipline
Speaker 1: there to make sure that you're in the right place
Speaker 1: at the right time, you know what's going on, and
Speaker 1: that way you were able to execute. It's been fun
Speaker 1: looking at this matchup, but I think tomorrow is going
Speaker 1: to be even better. How about that, guys, We've got
Speaker 1: to say it with your chess Friday. We're picking a nickname,
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