1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This he's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World howquarters at the 4 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. To the goal line and now your hosts, 5 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: I say a stand back, Patrick Walkers and Kyle Yeoman's. 6 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: They walked to walk the guy with the eight year 7 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: old daughter. Oh hey, we're here on Talking Cowboys. Welcome 8 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: in to the s WBC studios at the Star in Frisco. 9 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: It is a Talking Thursday here from the headquarters of 10 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. We're previewing the Dallas Cowboys in the 11 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: Inna Annapolis Colts hit his Week thirteen of the NFL 12 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: season alongside Patrick nose Walker Isaiah. Stand back. We've got 13 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: Chris Beam in the back. I'm Kyle Yeoman's. Gentlemen, how 14 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: are we doing? Fantastic? I am. It's a little fridgid 15 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: out there, Kyle. A little bit of fridgid just for now. 16 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: It's okay, maybe frantic in here a little bit, okay, 17 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: just from the playing the indoor. It'll bounce back tomorrow. Yeah, 18 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: tomorrow is supposed to be back in the seventies, is 19 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: it really it is supposed to be. What's the weather 20 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: for this weekend? Um, it's supposed to rain on Sunday. 21 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: Stop freaking grand there, Yeah, stop it. We'll be back 22 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: to Oh I don't see any chance of rain on 23 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: Sunday right now, we'll be back to spring. And I 24 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: saw that yes day on my phone. Oh it changed 25 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: up tomorrow. I mean, look at it right now. It 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: isn't yo, yeah, buddy, So don't trust it. Pregame Yeah, 27 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: on our parade, you trust te pregame live. If it's 28 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: going to rain, will be inside the stadium either way. 29 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: But if it's say, if it's going to rain, we're 30 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: gonna be out, or if it's not gonna rain, we're 31 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: gonna be outside the stadium. So of course, pray for 32 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: no rain on Sunday. It's not gonna rain. It ain't raining. 33 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: It's not happening. We're not working. We need y'all there. 34 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: There you go, We need y'all there with the signs 35 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: and everything. We're turning up. Each talking Cowboys sign that 36 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: you see will be one of two things. It would 37 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: be one a picture with Isaiah and myself. We will 38 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: definitely take a picture of Patrick makes an appearance out there. 39 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: He'll take a photo as well. Right, right, I'll double down. 40 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: What about we give a shout out of the person's name. 41 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: Deal here, deal, So there's the second thing. The third 42 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: thing I was gonna say, Isaiah would even sign your poster. 43 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: He'll sign the post, right, how about that? Right? Sharpe 44 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: a little bit. You don't want our autographs. But Isaiah's 45 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: actually saying something. So he's a somebody now. But uh yeah, 46 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: we're looking forward to seeing you out at and T Stadium. 47 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: Pregame live two pm Central time. But get there early, 48 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: get in the plaza early. Security. Yeah, you can get 49 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: your own security out there, thank goodness. Probably needs some 50 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: security detail. I'm gonna sit. That's that's that's one way 51 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 1: to spend security details. That's what it is. They want 52 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: to protect you. They're a high valued asset. Right, Um, 53 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: I could joke there, but I didn't do it. All Right, 54 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: let's do some news and notes because we've got a 55 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: preview the Colts defense against the Cowboys offense. Dak Prescott 56 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: and company looking to try and continue some of the 57 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: success that they've had each of the last two days, 58 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: and they'll try and do so after we saw the 59 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: first injury report of the weekend yesterday. So the Cowboys 60 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: um coming off with their many by much much needed 61 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: many buy so they could get risked in recovery from 62 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: that illness the virus that have made its rounds here 63 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: recently in the building, so their injury list is greatly 64 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: reduced over it was a couple of weeks ago, but 65 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: the illness book has sank its teeth into Trevon Diggs 66 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: and Michael Gallup both were DNP which did not participate 67 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Both are expected to play. However, there's obviously 68 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: plenty of time between yesterday and Sunday's game, so that's 69 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: that's the silver lining is that they both had plenty 70 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: of time to rest and recover. But prepare for the 71 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: possibility that one or both of them continue to be 72 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: DNP this week as the Cowboys give them time to 73 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: do just that. Anthony Barr, with his reaggravated hamstring, made 74 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 1: some progress. He was back at practice in a limited capacity. 75 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: Jay Ron Curse and de Marcus Lawrence both joined him 76 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: limited as well. Jay Ron Curse obviously dealing with the 77 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: shoulder injury, but he battled through that very same shoulder 78 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: injury to a mass nearly sixty snaps, sixty very effective 79 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: and productive snaps against the New York Giants, and then 80 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: of course many body comes after that. He should be 81 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: a little bit better. Spoke with iron On yesterday, asked him, hey, 82 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, flat out, how are you feeling. Are you 83 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 1: looking like you're a goal for Sunday? And he said, 84 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm as good as I'm going to be in December. 85 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: And he said, I'm going to do everything I can 86 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: to fight through it. So but it's to your point yesterday, 87 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 1: as there in December, who is healthy? Nobody? All right? 88 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: So j Ron Curse sounds like he's going to be 89 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: a goal as long as there is no there are 90 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,919 Speaker 1: no setbacks. And to Marcus Lawrence, same foot issue that 91 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: he's been dealing with along with the other bad foot 92 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:16,039 Speaker 1: and the bad left knee and the bad right knee. 93 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: And you know, I think d law is gonna go though, guys, 94 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's gonna go. I think he's gonna play. 95 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: He's gonna go. He's been going at this point. Flipping 96 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: to the Indianapolis Coats, most notable would be obviously nickelback 97 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: Kenny Moore, the second who did not practice an ankle 98 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: injury suffered on Monday night football against the Steelers. It 99 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: does not look like more it's going to be able 100 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: to go, especially on a short week, and that would 101 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,159 Speaker 1: be a massive loss, huge loss of the coach secondaries. 102 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: He did not look good in that game either. When 103 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: he hobbled off the field, it was not It wasn't good. 104 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, did not they cart him back? 105 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: He hobbled off the field, but I think he wrote 106 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: the cart back to the l might be right. I'm 107 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: pretty sure he wrote the cart back to the locker room. 108 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: Not off of the field, but back to locker room. Yeah. 109 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: So if in fact he can't go, which is what 110 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 1: it looks like, then a huge hole in the secondary 111 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: of the Coats defense. But that's going to be news 112 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: and notes for the day keeping Alan, Michael Gallup and 113 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: Trevon Diggs. As it stands, everybody on the Cowboys injury 114 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: report is expected to play. I want to say, with 115 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: the exception of Anthony, barring the exception being he did 116 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: reaggravate it recently, let's just let his play out and 117 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: see when he actually gets back on the field. Because 118 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: he reaggravated it on that Saturday prior to the what 119 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: was that Viking the Vikings game? Ye, yeah, because he 120 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: was going to go into his home or his former team. 121 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: So I mean, even with the mini buy, that's less 122 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: than two weeks since he's aggravated that. So that doesn't 123 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: surprise me that they want to take that slow correct. 124 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: Is there a chance that he even pops up on 125 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: the IR list or is it a little too late 126 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: for that by this point? I don't think they put 127 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: him on IR not not going into the month of December, 128 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: because that would guarantee he's out for four weeks, and 129 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: you at that point you wouldn't get him back into 130 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: the end of December and then have to kind of 131 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be a complete ramp up process for the 132 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: playoffs because he's played this season for the Cowboys, but 133 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: he wouldn't be in top form by then, and they 134 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: don't need the roster spot, particularly with the release of 135 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: Terrell Basham a couple of days ago. James Washington's twenty 136 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: one day window got activated yesterday, So if they make 137 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: that move on Washington, you gotta see how Tyron Smith 138 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: plays out effective next week. Bottom line is Cowboys don't 139 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: need the spot, so there's no pressure to move Anthony 140 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: bar to IR and they're just gonna let it play 141 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 1: out at this point. So a couple of roster moves 142 00:07:34,400 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: that will happen soon. I mean, you'll pull up some 143 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: guys from the practice squad, but you don't anticipate anything 144 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: happening this week with Washington being completely or he's already 145 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: been pulled up, all right, ninety nine point nine nine 146 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: nine percent unlikelihood that Washington is going to be moved 147 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: to the active roster, Like, that's just I don't see 148 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 1: how that's fathomable. I said it yesterday, and my eyes 149 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,559 Speaker 1: would be on to Carson mcn is on Tech because 150 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: they called him. They elevated him from the practice squad 151 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: on last with a Saturday preceding Thanks Oh yeah, Thanksgiving, 152 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: but they register him inactive. That still counts as a 153 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: call up. So I think that instead of playing that game, 154 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: they're just going to go right, this is going to 155 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: go ahead and activate Tach McKinley. Now we'll see if 156 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: that happens this week. But that's that's what my gut 157 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: tells me. I like it. I like it a lot. 158 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: Get him back into the fold if with us. I mean, 159 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: we're going to preview the Cowboys offense here, but I 160 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: do want to talk a little James Washington. Can he 161 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: add something to this offense? What does he add if 162 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: he is available and he is healthy. I think he's 163 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: a possession guy. He's a physical, physical receiver. If he's healthy. 164 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: How is that different from what you have already? I 165 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: think he is a more experienced Nora Brown. Okay, I 166 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 1: probably put it like that just in terms of games. 167 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: I know they're probably the same age, same age has 168 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: been in terms of raps in actual on field in 169 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: game receiver reps, catches all that jazz. I think James 170 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: Washington probably has the edge on that one. And so 171 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: we've seen Noah Brown be effective. We know what he 172 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: brings to the table when called upon. They haven't called 173 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: upon him as of late, since really since Dad came up, 174 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: they haven't called on him much. But I think that 175 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: James Washington ads that element to it. I don't expect 176 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: him coming back to be the same explosive guy that 177 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: he once was. He was never utilized as that in 178 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh because there's so many guys that were around him. 179 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: But he possesses those capabilities here. I foresee him being 180 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: an inside guy that is a possession receiver that gives 181 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: you just another option. And you know what I loved, 182 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: absolutely loved about James Washington coming out of Okay State 183 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: was his ability to go up and attack the ball 184 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: in his time at Okay State and even those in 185 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: the athletic department, the fans that at that point there 186 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: was a lot of dis to be seen in his 187 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: game at that point, the way he played, he attacked 188 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: the ball violently, which kind of shades of Michael Gallop 189 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: in that aspect. I think it would be interesting, and 190 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: I agree with Isaiah, I don't. I don't foresee a 191 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: situation where whenever Washington gets on the field for the 192 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,559 Speaker 1: Cowboys that he's instantly going to hit the ground running. 193 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a guy who needed some added time, 194 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: added weeks to get over to get past the mental 195 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: part of it. And when he gets back at game, 196 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: in the game and that game speed, you're gonna need 197 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: more time to get back over that mental hurdle. But 198 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: when and if he does get back to you know, 199 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: prime James Washington for him, which is not what we 200 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 1: saw in Pittsburgh. But I'm talking about what we saw 201 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State. Then it gives you a possession receiver 202 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: who can also stretch the field. Yes, and that's going 203 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: to make it a lot easier for Michael Gallop to 204 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: then stretch the field, because that's one part of Michael 205 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: Gallup's game that we haven't seen reappear just yet in 206 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: his return in twenty twenty two. And I think it's 207 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: because the Cowboys are great evidence on things given they're 208 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: using Michael Gallop as the possession receiver, right, so if 209 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: James Washington come in and help in that capacity, it's 210 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: going to free up Michael Gallop to kind of get 211 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: down the field more. And then you can mix a 212 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: match and say, okay, we'll Gallop this is your goal route. 213 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: But then next time you can say, okay, Gallup, this 214 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: is your possession route. And you know, James, this is 215 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: your goal route. And all the whole while you got 216 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: CD doing CD things, so you know, and of course, 217 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: pink elephant in the room, Odell Beckham Junior will see 218 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: if the Cowboys can't get him. But and to that point, 219 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: before I toss it back to you, for those that 220 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: are wondering the activation of James Washington's twenty one day 221 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: practice window has zero, zero, zero bearing on the Cowboys 222 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 1: pursuit of Odell Beckham Junior. That is still very much 223 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: a thing. If anything, Odell Beckham Junior's signing would affect 224 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: James Washington more than anything that is correct. It would affect, Yeah, 225 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: it would affect his role and how much he's utilized. 226 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: Didn't where he would go if the Cowboys elected to 227 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 1: go and sign Odell Beckham Junior, and vice versus Odell 228 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: Beckham Junior elects to sign with the Cowboys, because he 229 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 1: does have other suitors. The Giants, the Bills, the Chiefs 230 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: all in that conversation, and of course the Cowboys have 231 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: been the most talked about one of them. But you 232 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: also brought up Michael Gallup, and I liked what I 233 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: saw about from Michael Gallup on Thursday. We're talking about 234 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: using him as a possession receiver. He showed that again 235 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,559 Speaker 1: he's got those clamps, he's got those hands, I mean, 236 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: and he gave them to you on Thursday. He caught 237 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: those hands right. Yeah. Eight targets, five receptions, sixty three yards, 238 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: which is a season high in all three of those 239 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: categories for Michael Gallup. When you watched the film, Isaiah 240 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 1: and you went back and kind of looked at it, 241 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: his yards per target was hefty down. I mean it 242 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: was heftily down. However, is that the new role that 243 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,839 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup could find in this offense to allow him 244 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: to be utilized more. I think it's how they're utilizing him. 245 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that that Michael Gallup lacks any area 246 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 1: of his game to be effective in any role that 247 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: they put in it that you to choose to utilize 248 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: them in, even after the injury. Even after the injury, 249 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: I think he still has ability to get down the field. 250 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that he has one hundred percent confidence 251 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: yet in that, but I think that he still possesses 252 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: that ability. So we as you were talking about James 253 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: Washington and him trying to come back, you know, I 254 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: was in that same position coming off a foot injury. 255 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: Like it takes a minute like you in practice and 256 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,079 Speaker 1: in training like these are all calculated steps. Everything that 257 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing is calculated. I might be doing it quote 258 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: unquote full speed, but I'm calculating how I'm gonna put 259 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: my foot down, how hard I'm going to press in 260 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: the game is instinctive. It's instinctive, and there's gonna be 261 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: something that you do in the game that's instinctive that 262 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: you're like, oh crap, and you do it. You're like, 263 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: it didn't hurt, right in a hurt. You're good, you know, 264 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, here we go. Let's like a 265 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: quarterback take it that first hip running back, taking that 266 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: first time, you prove something to yourself and because you're 267 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: not calculating anymore, now you're back to you know, you're 268 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: back to reacting, you're back to playing the game. So 269 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: much like that, I think there's gonna be something like 270 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: that for Gallup where he just goes out of he 271 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: gasses on somebody. He's like, oh crap, you think that's 272 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: already happened. I don't think he's see that. I don't 273 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: hit that six gear yet. Okay, I don't think he's 274 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: hit his six gear yet. I think he uses his five. 275 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: His five is fashioned and most of his most six. 276 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 1: So I think that once he's gonna hit there's gonna 277 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: be something that happens where he hits that six gear 278 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,599 Speaker 1: and everybody's like, oh crap. There goes the version of 279 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: Gallup we're seeing is that possession guy with the big 280 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: freaking lego hands and in the ballerina toes so he 281 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: did in Los Angeles against the Rams. He's showing every 282 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: aspect of his game that people had questions about, because 283 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: coming into twenty twenty two, the big thing was, oh, 284 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: well he's just a go guy, right, Okay, Well, now 285 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: you're seeing he can do everything, which I think sets 286 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: the stage for him. His hands, what you were talking 287 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: about called his the hands that he displayed. These were 288 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: not chess catches. He's wearing body cradles, these dudes. These 289 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: were contested catches with a dog on, you know, just 290 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: I don't even know these dog on, a little spider 291 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: monkeys sitting on his back, and he was snagging the ball, 292 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: reaching away from his body, using his hands, being strong 293 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: at the point of contact, being strong at the catch, 294 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: and then reeling that thing in, shedding guys off them, 295 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 1: running through guys. I mean, this dude was playing physical 296 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: big ball. So to your to you guys point, that's 297 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: what he showed. And what I'm saying is he's never 298 00:15:17,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: lacked that. They've just never called him to show that, right, 299 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: They've never utilized him in that regard, So now they 300 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: are They're like, Okay, you're our possession guy right now, Okay, 301 00:15:26,880 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: this is where Dad's going with the ball in these situations. Oh, 302 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: by the way, you can't get down the field too. 303 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: Let everybody forget about that. And there's gonna be a 304 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: time that we're gonna see before the end of the 305 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: season where he takes off on a goal route and 306 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: everybody's like, god, dog, I forgot goes. And that was 307 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: because last season the possession the role of possession receiver 308 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: was split more so between the Mark Cooper and Ceedee Lamb. 309 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: On any given any given the rep, it was either 310 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: Mark Cooper stealing somebody's ankles on a route and there 311 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: you go, you know, third down conversion, or it was 312 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: Cooper on a goal route on that particular rep. And 313 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: now CD it was the quick slant, the inside the 314 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: possession guy. Well, now without a Mark Cooper, CD has 315 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: had to become more of that outside guy and more 316 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: of that get down the field guy, and that leaves 317 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: Gallop to step up. Now, before Galloper turned it was 318 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: Noah Brown, but now with Gallip back, it kind of 319 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: moved to him. But you had another receiver being James 320 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: Washington once he gets back to form, and or Odell 321 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Beckham Junior once he gets back to form, and that 322 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: just it frees up Michael Gallup to get back on 323 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: those goal routes. But what should really terrify opposing secondaries 324 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to you know, not just the Cowboys 325 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: or our receiver group as a whole, but when it 326 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: comes to Michael Gallup is you've now seen that he 327 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: can do it all. Therefore you can't just simply defend 328 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: him as a nine route runner like you have to 329 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: defend him on the whole tree. Yeah, he's got it all. Yeah, 330 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: you got to defend him on the whole tree. It's 331 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: good at it all too. That's one of the things 332 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 1: about Michael Gallup cook coming out of Colorado's state, he 333 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: always had a diverse route tree. He had that initially. 334 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: The burst is something that he kind of continued to 335 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: grow into and to kind of learn some of the 336 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: route running ability that we saw from Amari Cooper during 337 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: his time here too. That certainly helped along the way 338 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: as well. I'm excited to see Gallup hit that next 339 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: gear because I think he has it. I really, Michael 340 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: or in conversations that you and I have had with 341 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. He thinks he has it too. It's coming. 342 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy knows that there's something else down the line, 343 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: something else down the line with Michael Gallup. 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If you're 395 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan, if you're a fan of Talking Cowboys, 396 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: if you follow us on Twitter, doesn't matter, say hi, 397 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: come stop by, say hi. We would love to interact 398 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: with you and love to have some fun with the 399 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: fans out there because Isaiah and I don't get let 400 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: out there often. Yeah, it's like training camp and a 401 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: couple times during the preseason, they don't let us out 402 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: of the house. No, it doesn't happen round So Kyle 403 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:03,239 Speaker 1: Haileys freaking Mary is going down. That's going down. But 404 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: not only is that happening on Sunday, but tomorrow we've 405 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: got a big day because we're deciding the name of 406 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: this Dallas d set right, We're coming together. We're gonna 407 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 1: unite as a talking cowboys nation, Yes, and decide collectively, Yes, 408 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: what's gonna be the nickname? Yes? So a lot of 409 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: names go through, a ton of names to go through 410 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: you and I. We all have homework. Did you do? 411 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 1: I want you each here's what here's what we're gonna do. 412 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: I want you to bring thirty names. I want you 413 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: to narrow it down thirty narrow it down the thirty names, 414 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna collectively tomorrow we're gonna find a 415 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: top three from each of us. I want you to 416 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: come in with the top three in mind, top three, 417 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna debate out of those. But I 418 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: want to read all the names. I'm gonna read a 419 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: bunch of them. You know what I'm gonna do. What 420 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to see you guys Google Google Drive document. 421 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: I want you guys just throw them all on there. 422 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: That way we can all see them. I'll have them 423 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 1: printed out for us. How about that, We'll have an 424 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 1: Isaiah segment, a Patrick segment, or not segment of the show. 425 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: We just throw them all on there. We just throw 426 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: them all on there, the whole list of everything that 427 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 1: we received from the fans. Okay, okay, and then we'll 428 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: have our own little from from from us, like the 429 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: three of us. That way we can all we can 430 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: just look at see what everybody submitted, and we can 431 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: kind of put the user names on there too, so 432 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: we can say their names there. You absolutely make sure 433 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: whenever we put the names on there, if you have 434 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: a nickname and you haven't submitted it yet, get it 435 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: in there. You have an opportunity. We're gonna pick a 436 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 1: bunch of them. We're talking about it tomorrow on say 437 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: it with your chest Friday nine, if you want to 438 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: watch your live all right, I just asked the question 439 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: going into the break, Michael Gallup, you expect an extra 440 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: gear out of Michael Gallup? Who on the offensive side, 441 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: Isaiah outside of MG has that extra gear that eg 442 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: little extra gear action putting that nos that night shot. 443 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah that we haven't serious payton hindershot. Why is that ponin? 444 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,120 Speaker 1: I like it? Very talented, very explosive. Haven't seen it, 445 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: haven't seen it. We've seen it. Take the top off 446 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: the oh, the middle Nasty tours. Oh, he walks around 447 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: like that. He has that dog in him. Yeah, I 448 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: see you with odbum. Give him the rock, give him 449 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: the rock. He's a guy that give him to Give 450 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: him the ball in his hand and watch what he 451 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,959 Speaker 1: does with it. And I think that he's gonna be 452 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play integral, roll down the road, 453 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: down the road when when, hopefully when playoffs present themselves, 454 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,679 Speaker 1: or hopefully, if we keep continue taking care of business, 455 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: playoffs present themselves. I think he's the guy that everybody's like, crap, Shoot, 456 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: we worried about these other cats, and here it goes 457 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: this dude. Right, he's just that dangerous of a guy. 458 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: And they're just keeping him quiet. They just keeping him quiet, 459 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: and I'm not keeping him quiet. But what is that? Well, 460 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: that's the thing. Is that a good thing or a 461 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: bad thing because as a rookie, don't you need those 462 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: types of opportunities. And he's getting snaps. He had a 463 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: two yard touch. There's four tight ends that are all 464 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: being utilized. Correct, this is not a typical team. You're 465 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 1: using two guys right, and the other guys are doing 466 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: a protection and you know on the wings like these. 467 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: All four of these guys are being utilized throughout the 468 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: whole game, special teams and offense. And I think that 469 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,719 Speaker 1: he's just kind of gotten caught into washing. I think 470 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: Keller Moore, I would assume, and I hope that Kellen 471 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: Moore has some things him and Linda Welles has some 472 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: things in the bag for a hinder shot. They were 473 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,639 Speaker 1: already showing it. Yeah, it's starting to leak out, you 474 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: so what happened against the Giants with a two yard 475 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: handoff for it's starting to leak out. And I love 476 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: that you chose Peyton hinder shot, and I agree with that, 477 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: but to not double down on it. Let's let's keep 478 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: it in the tight end room. Though I still don't 479 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: think we've seen and I agree wholeheartedly, but I still 480 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: don't think we've even seen remotely what Jake Ferguson is capable. 481 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: I think Ferguson, much like hinder Shot Um not only 482 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: can Ferguson stretch the field in space good luck. Right, 483 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: you've already seen Ferguson still some ankles. You've seen him 484 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 1: hurdle a fur great air Fergie. Right, he's hurdling guys. 485 00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: He's shaking guys. If you go back and look at 486 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: what he did on the touchdown in Philadelphia, get the 487 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: ball in his hands. He could do it in space. 488 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: He can take it down the scene if you need. 489 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: But he's also a solid blocker as well. I think 490 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: we're just seeing things get started with Ferguson, but also 491 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: with Hindershot, and then you com bind those two together, 492 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: my old min there have been some fun tight ends 493 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: as a part of the Cowboys organization in recent memory. 494 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: I think that eighty two guy was he was pretty 495 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: dark good, right, I mean Jason Witton was fantastic. He's 496 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: pretty good. But as a room do you remember having 497 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 1: so much excitement around I mean, yeah, individually Jason Winton, 498 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean gold Jacket went for a reason. But as 499 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 1: a group have you ever been as excited about a 500 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: tight end group? And that's this Cowboys organization. And I've 501 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: beat the chair about it before. Linda Wells does not 502 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: getting enough credit. He's a hell of a coach. He 503 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: does not get enough credit. Facts facts, facts. Check the 504 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: pregame every week, every week the Cowboy, Black Cowboy had 505 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: crisp No And I listen, you can't say that there's 506 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 1: there's a reason why I bring this up. There are 507 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: too many coaches in this league that get buried. There's 508 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: too many coaches that you know, we talked about McCarthy, 509 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: we talked about the defensive coordinator, we talked about Kelly Moore. 510 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: But then you gotta start talking about these positional guys, right, 511 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: you got to talk about the Skip pizza, the world 512 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: that Joe Philbin's Yeah, Joe Philbins, Who's who's freaking used 513 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 1: puzzle pieces to put together? He knows everybody in this building, 514 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: I mean head to tell Yeah, right, he's put these 515 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: he's put this off the line together for a number 516 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: of years. Right, And then you talk about what Joe Philbin, Yeah, 517 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: including he knows everybody, yeah yeah, inside. But then he's 518 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: talk about Skip Pete everywhere Skip Pete's gone. He's had 519 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: at least a one two punch everywhere he's gone. He's 520 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: had on one two puss, the development of backs. Then 521 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: you go, then you come here and you talk about 522 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: Linda Wells. Name one team that has four tight ends 523 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: that all contribute. Name there's not one, and to what 524 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: two of these guys weren't even and if anything, it 525 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 1: would be one of those teams that would say are 526 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: offensive geniuses, their next level thinkers. It's like the Sean 527 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: mcvay's or the Andy Reids of the world that are 528 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: just next level guys. They're not getting that type of 529 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: credit because you're utilizing these guys in such a fun way. 530 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: But it's also the not just the utilization, but the 531 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,400 Speaker 1: fact that you were developed enough talent and enough skills 532 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: and contributing contributions from each guy on your depth chart. 533 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: All four guys on your roster, at your position in 534 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: your room are contributing in active every game and in 535 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: confident and you can utilize them in every situation. You 536 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 1: have four tight informations where all these guys are on 537 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: the field simultaneously. That is amazing in terms of the 538 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: work that he's done to put these guys in position 539 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 1: to be utilized. Because most other teams in this league 540 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: have three guys active, Two guys participate in two and 541 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 1: two tight end sets and the third guy is really 542 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: on field goal block and they're still developing Seth Green 543 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: in the practice squad for he was even down there. 544 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: You know why, because you have four guys that are 545 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 1: produced it. It's unheard of. So I mean give him 546 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: his freaking flowers and kudos to him for keeping these guys, 547 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: forgetting these guys ready, because I don't think they were 548 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: already at one point. No, no, right, So it's not 549 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: just you just oh, we just had this much talent 550 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: in the room. Now this is development you know, two 551 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: rookies and McEwen was a developmental tight end an battled 552 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: injury mqwen did in twenty twenty one. So uh no, 553 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: the answer is no. I mean you can go back 554 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: as far as you want to go back, and the 555 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: answer is no. I mean, you're at best. You'll find 556 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: a dynamic duel at some point in the Cowboy's history 557 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: when it comes to tight ends um, and you will, 558 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: but more often than not, especially in recent history, it's 559 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: been who can compliment Jason Witten? Right, So it wasn't. 560 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Martell has been an unfortunately uh, you know it wasn't 561 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: Facano unfortunately. Um but and then the Blake Jarwindolton showed 562 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: this thing was supposed to be a thing, but then 563 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: injury completely derailed potentially ended Jarwin's career. We'll see if 564 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: he can never make it back in the league. So 565 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: you come into you know, the offseason, and you're saying 566 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: to yourself, well, you got Dalton shots on the franchise tag, 567 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: that's a one year. Darwin is out of the situation. 568 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Well, Will McClay is, Stephen Jones, 569 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: They strap up and they say okay, Jake ferguson fourth 570 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: rounder and then paid Hindershot, which could have been a 571 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: draft pick. He had the draft pick talent, fell to 572 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: the ranks of the undrafted. Cowboys get him and paid Hindershot. 573 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: Told our beloved Hailey Sutton on yesterday that the Chiefs 574 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: were in on him, trying to get him as an 575 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent. So the Cowboys stole him from the Chiefs. 576 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: M okay. And now you're in a situation where you 577 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: went from having Kelsey much right exactly. You went from 578 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: having a tighten room with a massive question mark to 579 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: a tighten room that's one of the most lethal in 580 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: the league. And we haven't even seen them scratch the 581 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: surface of their potential yet. This tighten room might be 582 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: the differentiating factor in one or more of these potential 583 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: playoff games. No, you're great. That's a great point because 584 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: drafting Jake Ferguson, that was first seen Dallas. After they 585 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: took their three picks in the first three rounds, you 586 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: got a wide receiver, you got an add rusher, and 587 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: of course you had the offensive tackle with Tyler Smith 588 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: in the first round. After you got those three positions 589 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: out of the way, the fourth round you could have 590 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: put if you were a betting person, you could have 591 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: put money. It was a tight end and heavy money. 592 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: It was a tight end. It could have been anybody there. 593 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: It really could have been. So Jake Ferguson, that selection 594 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: that was made was going to be anybody that's a 595 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: tight end, and that was a high, high draft prospect. 596 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: The steel of the off season is Peyton hender Shot 597 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: and that's kind of what that goes back to your 598 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,840 Speaker 1: point of being the gear or having that extra gear. 599 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: The fact that he's the Steel of the off season 600 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: and he hasn't even put up stats yet shows just 601 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: what he can do. I think people are forgetting that 602 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: Schultz and just just didn't coming here developed either. No, 603 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: he didn't. No, it took some time, you know what 604 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm saying, sometimes and sometimes spend it Kittles tight End University. Yeah, 605 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean, but you know you so, I mean, you 606 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: got the coaches that Purtic obviously had a huge part 607 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: in that. You know, I got offseason things, all that, 608 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: All those things played a part in it. But you 609 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: talk about somebody who wasn't even in a conversation of 610 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: being one of the best in the leagues all of 611 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 1: a sudden having a breakout years, all of a sudden 612 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: being a franchise take. I mean, that's a there's development 613 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: that happens there, you don't ye, not only here, not 614 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: only position all right, responsibilities blocking, run, blocking, pass blocking, 615 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: running routes, catching balls. They have more responsibility than everybody. 616 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Think about the last time you had a rookie tight 617 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 1: End take the world by storm really hasn't happened. Even 618 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: some of the guys that are the top names, the 619 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey's, the George Kittle's, the Dallas Goddards, zach Ertz, 620 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: none of those guys were those guys as rookies. Look 621 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: at some of the most recent guys, Kyle Pitts, Jollanni Woods, 622 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean Jillanni Woods. You're gonna see on Sunday. These 623 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: guys have not been big time players as rookies, but 624 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 1: they still could be down. Was he still Pitts was 625 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: the one exception, but even he wasn't living up to 626 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: expectation either. So with that being said, Pitts has been 627 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: the exception in that regard. However, he still hasn't even 628 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: hit the ceiling that he's expected to hit in Atlantic 629 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: until twenty three, Yeah, because he's out for the season. 630 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: So tight end wise, this room is developing. There's talent there, 631 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: there are places to go. And it takes me. It 632 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: takes me back to a conversation I had with Coach 633 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: Wells and training camp, and I believe Isaiah, you were 634 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: sitting at the table. He's talking about the confidence. He's 635 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,959 Speaker 1: talking about the mindset that you have to instill on 636 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: young tight ends. You got to be the first one 637 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: to lay a hit. You got to be that one 638 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: that initiates the physicality. That doesn't mean get a flag 639 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: thrown on you. That doesn't mean do something stupid, but 640 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: it means show that type of brit and set the 641 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 1: tone early. And these guys have done that and they've 642 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: opened up the passing game too. Before you take us 643 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: a break, college, that what you're talking about, And I 644 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: said at a gazillion times when dan Quinn your conversation 645 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: came up, it's about culture. There's a culture for the 646 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Within that culture, right, that's the umbrella, the 647 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys culture. Then you have the dan Quinn culture, 648 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: keller More culture. Right, offense and defense two totally different cultures, okay, 649 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 1: and then within that you have positional cultures. Right, So 650 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: you have to create the culture for your room when 651 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: you're when you're unit steps out there, they are now 652 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: a representative of you and everything that you put into 653 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: them all in this entire time. So not only are 654 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: they representing the star on their helmet, not only are 655 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: they representing the unit as an offense, right, but they 656 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: are representing their tight end groups. So when you see 657 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: them do their celebrations, when you see them come out, 658 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: and that is that is Linda Wales in that entire room, 659 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: that is their vibe that they're putting out and anybody 660 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: who wants to step foot in that room. Guess what 661 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: you have to get on board with. 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That's the Cowboys Christmas Extravaganza powered by Reliant. 720 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: Sorry I messed that up, everybody who get it back. 721 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: There have been a lot of lion suggestions for the 722 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: next ring. By the way, yeah, it'll be a great touch, 723 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: a big time throw. We've got Chris Beam in the back, 724 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 1: Patrick nose Walker, Isaiah standback. Final segment talking Cowboys. I'm 725 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's gentlemen, Let's take a look at the Colts defense, Isaiah. 726 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: When you've been looking at the film from Indie, what 727 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 1: do they bring to the table that Dallas might struggle against, 728 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: might struggle against, well, most likely to struggle against. Let's 729 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: say it that way. I would say this defensive line 730 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: is going to test the offensive line of Oars. Okay, 731 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: from the standpoint of you see a lot of dan Quinn. 732 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: It's so funny. It's so funny that I, you know, 733 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: I've brought up the relationship between Gus Bradley and dan 734 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: Quinn and how they you know they're from the same 735 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: tree or dan Quinn's from history. Really, we didn't go 736 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,719 Speaker 1: back into history and you see a lot of it. 737 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: You see a lot of these these things like, man, 738 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: how the heck is he getting these matchups? Well, freak, 739 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: that's the same thing that we see with Dan Quinn. 740 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: So is it? Maybe it's the other way around? How 741 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: to Dan Queen getting these matchups? But you see how 742 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: he's able to line up just Bradley, that is his 743 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 1: defensive linement, to create these one on one matchups at 744 00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: the defensive end position so that he could take advantage 745 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: of his big dogs out there. Because he has some guys. 746 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 1: He got some dude, he got some dudes. You know, 747 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: I want to talk about that d line because I 748 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: mentioned Yannick and Goquay. Yeah, they've also got Grover Stewart 749 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: who's been playing really well in the interior this year. 750 00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: The Forest Buckner, former top ten pick. Absolute dude. Absolutely. 751 00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the number eleven ranked defense of lineman 752 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,320 Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Focus. Don't always look at the grades, 753 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: but he has been playing well. And then Quitty Pay, 754 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,919 Speaker 1: who some of you might remember from the Draft Show 755 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. He was a potential target. 756 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,440 Speaker 1: He was a guy Cowboys looked at pretty heavily, but 757 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: as an edge Rusher out of Michigan. He went later 758 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: in the first round, and you drafted this guy named 759 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, so everything worked out for you. But those 760 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: are the four guys up front and Gackway, Stewart, Buckner, 761 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 1: and Pay. Like you said, they've got some pieces and 762 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: he's doing a good job of aligning them properly so 763 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:34,520 Speaker 1: that the interior three guys, the center and the guards 764 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: get consumed, right because you have to respect Buckner, I 765 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: mean you just you just have to otherwise he'll freaking 766 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: tarn issue writing. Damn it, you boy. So he's doing 767 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 1: a good job of making those three interior lineman squeeze 768 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: and he is isolating the crap out of these tackles. 769 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: So Tyler Smith, strap up, buddy, because the Gackway is 770 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: gonna be. Oh, he's gonna be over your head right um. 771 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: And I think we're gonna be if we're going to 772 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: be challenged in any regard, he's gonna be there because 773 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: I think that they don't let's off Ton, but they 774 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 1: add a lot of pressure and they do a good 775 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 1: job of can restricting and condensing the pocket um offensively. 776 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 1: For the Dallas Cowboys, they're gonna really stress us in 777 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: every but it's because they couldn't afford with the secondary 778 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: they have and you know Stefan Gilmore notwithstanding and Kenny 779 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: Moore notwithstanding, with the secondary they have, they couldn't afford 780 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 1: to send an extra guy, and especially from the linebacker 781 00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: cord neither, because Shaquille Leonard is on IR and that 782 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: is a massive hole in the middle of that Coats defense. 783 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 1: Shaquille Leonard is missed. If Shaquille Leonard is on the 784 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,279 Speaker 1: field against Philadelphia, that Red Sea doesn't part late in 785 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, that allows Jalen Hurts that walk in touchdown. UM, 786 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: So that's that's something to exploit. There is the center 787 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: of that linebacker cord with Leonard gone for the season, 788 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: potentially for the season, likely for the season. But for me, 789 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 1: all eyes have to be on a guy like in 790 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 1: gock Way. All eyes have to be on DeForrest Buckner. 791 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,439 Speaker 1: Quitty pay might be slowed even if he does play. 792 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: He was out on Monday night with an ankle injury 793 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: and he was limited on yesterday's injury reports, so he's 794 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 1: dealing with that ankle issue might not be one hundred percent, 795 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: so a little bit of a weak link there but 796 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,600 Speaker 1: for the most part, that defense a front for the 797 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: Coats that's going to be there. That's their cash cow, 798 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 1: that's their money pot. They don't take the ball away 799 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,719 Speaker 1: at a high rate. You know, they have one interception 800 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: as the team high between three or four different guys, 801 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: so they're not taking the ball away in the air, 802 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: and then you lose, like I said, you lose Kenny 803 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: Moore as your nickel corner. Massive lost there. So for me, 804 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,319 Speaker 1: if the Cowboys can win up front, the Cowboys offense 805 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,320 Speaker 1: wins this game fairly easily. No, I fairly completely agree 806 00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 1: in that regard. And you mentioned the middle of that 807 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: Colts defense. I really like what I've seen from e J. 808 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: Speed and the film that I've watched a little bit. 809 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: Not what he's not shack Let's not getting twisted, however, 810 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: I mean, he's by the way, he's DFW product. You 811 00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: went to North Crowley High School, and then for all 812 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: of you Tarleton Texans out there, you probably remember miss 813 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: e J. Speed drafted in the fifth round, the guy 814 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,919 Speaker 1: who's kind of been under the radar for the Colts 815 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,879 Speaker 1: for a little bit, but now he's getting a chance 816 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: to kind of fill in and plug that gap. But 817 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: it's because of the pressure upfront. It's because of that 818 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,880 Speaker 1: defensive line kind of clogging the way that he's been 819 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: able to roam freely and play well. But I also 820 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,279 Speaker 1: want to talk about the secondary. He may be missing more. 821 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: But they've got a guy on the other side named 822 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmore. Notwithstanding, you gotta talk about him, and then 823 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: also Rodney McLeod. He's a good safety, good player, Julian Blackman. 824 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: They've got some pieces there and they're confident with it. 825 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you think about the old Seattle, Okay, I 826 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: know we talk about Dan Queen, we talk about the 827 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: o Seattle. If you talk about the Seattle, you have 828 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,080 Speaker 1: to talk about Gus Bradley got to and what he 829 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: wanted to do. What did he do? He had pressure 830 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 1: up front, right, he played man coverage and that's what 831 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: they do. That's what they do. That's exactly what they do. 832 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: So in terms of winning up front, like you mentioned 833 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: to see, if you went up front, you have a chance. 834 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: If you struggle upfront, these guys are gonna be in 835 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: your hip pocket and everything's gonna be contesting its stend 836 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:05,080 Speaker 1: the coverage windows, be it Stefane Gilmore or whomever, and 837 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:06,600 Speaker 1: we'll I'll say Gilmore or not with that it because 838 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,919 Speaker 1: I've seen him be able to hang with the best. 839 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: But if you extend these coverage, these coverage windows against 840 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: these cowboys receivers by way of dominating in the trenches 841 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: against in god Kuoyan and these other guys you're going 842 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: to you're asking a whole lot of that coach secondary 843 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: to keep up with Ceedee Lamb and Michael Gallop and 844 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 1: hell even Noah Brown and these four tight ends that 845 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: we're talking about four two, two and a half seconds, 846 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: three three and a half seconds. The coach secondary to 847 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 1: me and looking at their film, they're only as successful 848 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 1: as the shortage of time in coverage is. So the 849 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: shorter of the time and coverage, the more dangerous they 850 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: can be. As far as people user concerned. They still 851 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: not showing me they can take the balls, so dependent 852 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,120 Speaker 1: on past correct but without that pass rush, those coverage 853 00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: windows start to expand and they can be exposed in 854 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: that capacity. So it circles right back to the initial point, 855 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: which is what Isaiah saying, And I agree, you have 856 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: to win the trenches. Tyler Smith, strap up, Connor McGovern, 857 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: strap up, Tyler be at a strap up. Zach Martin, Hey, 858 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 1: you know here, Zach, do what you do. Terren Steele 859 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: continue to be that role, greater in the run defense 860 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: and effective in the past. But here's the big thing, 861 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: and we talked about it this week and we're gonna 862 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: keep talking about it until further notice. Penalties, no pre 863 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: snap penalties. These guys are going to come after you 864 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: and you just know it, and they're really good at 865 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: rushing the pastor. But don't let that get you out 866 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 1: of your self discipline when you're talking about young guys 867 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: like Tyler Smith, Econor McGovern and hell even Terry Steele 868 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,600 Speaker 1: who's been fairly clean for most of the season, and 869 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: the penalty front. But don't go getting into a false 870 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: start situation, don't get into holding situations. Play clean discipline football, 871 00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: hold your feet, hold your anchor, keep your hands where 872 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 1: they need to be, and let Dak Prescott in this 873 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: run game set you up for victory. Yeah, Mike McCarthy 874 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,600 Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit yesterday and he was 875 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: asked about the penalties. How do you work on that 876 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 1: in the middle of a season. Really, it's disciplined, I mean, 877 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: that's what it boils down to is getting the discipline 878 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,839 Speaker 1: there to make sure that you're in the right place 879 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 1: at the right time, you know what's going on, and 880 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: that way you were able to execute. It's been fun 881 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: looking at this matchup, but I think tomorrow is going 882 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,840 Speaker 1: to be even better. How about that, guys, We've got 883 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 1: to say it with your chess Friday. We're picking a nickname, 884 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 1: we're picking some games, we're gonna update the standings, and 885 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 1: then we're also going to choose what this Dallas defense 886 00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: is going to be called for the rest of time. 887 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: How about that for all times? We're setting some trends 888 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,600 Speaker 1: here on Talking Cowboys. We're gonna come to a conclusion. 889 00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,799 Speaker 1: The files created you guys have it in your inbox. Oh, 890 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: I've already opening very now. He's good. I've already started typing. 891 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,480 Speaker 1: How about that? Got up Chris being in the back 892 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: for Patrick nose Walker for Isaiah stand back from Kyle 893 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: Yoman saying so long, special thanks to our friends over 894 00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: at Black Rifle Coffee Company. We'll see you tomorrow. Let's 895 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: say it with your Chess Friday. On Talking Cowboys. This 896 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 1: has been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 897 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys football Club