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Speaker 1: their Happy Monday, and welcome to another episode of the

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Speaker 1: Chuck Podcast. I'm actually personally pretty excited about today because

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Speaker 1: tonight I'm going to my first ever WBC World Baseball

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Speaker 1: Classic game down in Miami. I'm very excited about this,

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Speaker 1: going to go see Venezuela versus Italy. I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: I was when I bought these tickets. I was hoping

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Speaker 1: for two of the following three teams to be playing

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Speaker 1: each other. TV USA Dominican Republic Team Japan. I miss

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Speaker 1: missed out on the tickets for Team I thought I

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Speaker 1: being the one seed out of their pool put them

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Speaker 1: in the other bracket. You know, be careful gaming these things.

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Speaker 1: Obviously getting to both semi finals should have been the goal,

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Speaker 1: but hey, we all have logistical challenges here. But this

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Speaker 1: is something my son really wanted to do. And I thought, hey,

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Speaker 1: what a great excuse. He's on his spring break. He's

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Speaker 1: have a fun little bothering son. But I'll be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, I am ecstatic. I wanted one of the

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Speaker 1: see either the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico, or Venezuela, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get Venezuela. I just the excitement in

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Speaker 1: baseball should be in South Florida. And we've a as

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Speaker 1: My frustration. It's just a series of horrendous owners, and

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Speaker 1: We saw it three years ago. Again, we see it now.

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball in general and Commissioner Manfred. Your challenge

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Speaker 1: Let me lay out what to expect today. On this episode,

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Speaker 1: Tom keeps on ticking ticking anyway, Sorry, just revealed my

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Speaker 1: the war because at this point, as much as you

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Speaker 1: to be curious on that front. But I digress everything

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Speaker 1: in Iran. And it's clear that what the president thought

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Speaker 1: the Iranian theocracy has done over forty seven years. Bottom

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Speaker 1: I digress. But according to their journal, before the US

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Speaker 1: know what it's doing, that's where trouble arises. Now, Trump

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Speaker 1: apparently he did acknowledge the risk. He understood it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But he just was convinced of this, that this forty

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Speaker 1: We know this in Venezuela. But these are much different societies,

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Speaker 1: Do that mean they're going to be ground troops? Well,

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Speaker 1: short shortens, energy shortage is worsened. So now you have

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Speaker 1: a war that was centered in the person Gulf, affecting

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Speaker 1: the economic stability of a nuclear armed country thousands of

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Speaker 1: miles away who was in the middle of its own

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Speaker 1: kinetic I don't know what you want to call this,

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Speaker 1: but essentially kinetic conflict with Afghanistan at the moment, but

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Speaker 1: the Taliban government there. Now you add Europe to the

433
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Speaker 1: equation because this was the huge blow to freedom around

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Speaker 1: the world that happened over the last seventy two hours,

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Speaker 1: and that was the president's decision to lift temporary lift

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Speaker 1: oil sanctions on the Russians, I mean, just a disastrous

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Speaker 1: decision for freedom in Ukraine. Does higher oil prices benefit

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Speaker 1: Russia and its war machine? When global energy prices rise,

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00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: Russian oil revenue rises with them, and that means the

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Speaker 1: war in Iran is now indirectly strengthening Russia's financial position

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Speaker 1: in its war against Ukraine in a massive way. European

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Speaker 1: governments are already struggling to sustain the military and financial

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Speaker 1: support for Kiev, and now the Russians just got a

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Speaker 1: financial shot in the arm. Thanks about President of the

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Speaker 1: United States, by the way, and a meeting with the

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Speaker 1: G seven. Apparently six countries were against this, one was

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Speaker 1: for it. So now we've got a conflict in the

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Speaker 1: Persian Gulf, reshaping strategic calculations all across the entire European continent.

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Speaker 1: We've got the potential, we've got we're in the middle

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Speaker 1: of it appears to be a growing military crisis between

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Speaker 1: Afghanistan and Pakistan. And now you've got Pakistan's economy could

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Speaker 1: collapse again. It's a nuclear power, right, and the economic

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Speaker 1: implications aren't going to stop there. The straight of or

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Speaker 1: Moves crisis threatened something that American voters feel very quickly. Inflation.

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Speaker 1: Energy prices ripple through the entire economy, transportation costs, manufacturing costs,

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Speaker 1: food costs, air travel, shipping. If oil prices remain elevated

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Speaker 1: for weeks or months, that pressure shows up everywhere, and

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Speaker 1: that creates a political challenge for Donald Trump. So even

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Speaker 1: if this conflict doesn't trigger a formal recession, it could

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Speaker 1: easily produce something voters experience just as intensely, and something

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Speaker 1: they've been experiencing now ever since COVID rising. Prices and

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Speaker 1: economic uncertainty. You know, when you mess with the shipping lanes,

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Speaker 1: when you mess with the supply chain, when you mess

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Speaker 1: with the energy markets, the American consumer feels it quickly,

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Speaker 1: so which means that this war is not just a

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Speaker 1: foreign policy gamble, it is an economic gamble. Markets are

467
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Speaker 1: still one of the few checks that actually seem to

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Speaker 1: work on presidential decision making in American politics right now,

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Speaker 1: at least with this president. But here's the thing. Just

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Speaker 1: stopping declaring victory and stopping isn't necessarily going to get

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Speaker 1: Iran to stop screwing with the straight of ormus. And

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Speaker 1: that's the problem he's got here. Now, there's one more

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Speaker 1: dimension to this story that I want to touch on,

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Speaker 1: and it's one that I've vacillated about whether to touch

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Speaker 1: on because it's clearly a manufactured story to try to

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Speaker 1: distract from what was questionable civilian decision making to launch

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Speaker 1: this war in the first place. Okay, over the last

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Speaker 1: seventy two hours, the Chairman of the FCC, Brendan Carr,

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Speaker 1: has it eventually declared regulatory war on the broadcast press.

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Speaker 1: He wants to eradicate freedom of the press completely, cars

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Speaker 1: invoking a long standing legal concept known as the public

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Speaker 1: interest standard. Broadcast stations operate on public airways. It's the

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Speaker 1: affiliates that technically operate on the broadcast airways, not the

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Speaker 1: overall networks themselves. And BC doesn't have the license. Its

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Speaker 1: affiliates have the license. Okay, so the law does require

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Speaker 1: them to quote serve the public interest. So what's the

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Speaker 1: public interest? Freedom of expression, freedom of the press. It's

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Speaker 1: all in the First Amendment. I think it's pretty easy.

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Speaker 1: We know what public interest is. But Carr now is

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Speaker 1: trying to reinterpret that standard through a political lens. So

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, he posted that broadcasters running what he called

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Speaker 1: quote hoaxes and news distortions what he labeled fake news,

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Speaker 1: have a great chance to quote correct course before their

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Speaker 1: license renewals come up. Interesting. Then, in a CBS interview,

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Speaker 1: he went further. He said broadcast licenses are not a

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Speaker 1: property right, they are a privilege. He said broadcasters have

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Speaker 1: grown too comfortable assuming the government cannot take those licenses away,

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Speaker 1: and he suggested that the FCC must enforce patriotic standards

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Speaker 1: of truth in wartime. Wow, patriotic standards. Look, we went

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Speaker 1: through this ship in World War two and it. You know,

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Speaker 1: it is one of the black marks on World War Two.

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Speaker 1: Let's not pretend that this was a good thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: It's one thing to ask movie makers to to to

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Speaker 1: make movies that, you know, show the Americans in a

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Speaker 1: good light and help explain how bad the Nazis are.

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Speaker 1: I think that that that's one thing, but it's another

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Speaker 1: to actually start censoring the news. There was no censoring

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Speaker 1: of the news, but that's what he wants to do here.

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Speaker 1: Patriotic standards of truth in wartime, this is this is

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Speaker 1: putin bullshit. This is Russian today, this is our t ship.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know what to make of

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Speaker 1: Brendan Carr. I mean, I think he's not a dumb man,

513
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Speaker 1: but he's really acting like a political clown. And this

514
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Speaker 1: is just you know, some of these people that perform

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Speaker 1: just for the audience of one, and which is what

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Speaker 1: this is, to performance for an audience of one. There's

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Speaker 1: no serious story here. There shouldn't be. And if he

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Speaker 1: actually attempts this, I mean, he's so undermining the constitution

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Speaker 1: that it will just get killed in the courts. But

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Speaker 1: it's normalizing this garbage that we ought to be fighting

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Speaker 1: and that's why it's an extraordinary statement. The chairman of

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Speaker 1: the SEC is essentially saying that a broadcasters air reporting

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Speaker 1: that the administration considers false. And remember what propaganda petes

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Speaker 1: definition of what's false is, it's stuff that he doesn't like.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't make it false. It doesn't like the tone of coverage.

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Speaker 1: You know, that's what an authority regime does, not a democracy.

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Speaker 1: But he's threatening regulatory consequences. And here's the thing. Car

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Speaker 1: knows that the corporate owners of these entities are spineless

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Speaker 1: and effeckless fools, and they'll all rollover because they already have.

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Speaker 1: Because legally, Car can't simply shut down a network. The

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Speaker 1: FCC licenses are individual stations, not networks, so revoking a

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Speaker 1: license requires a hearing, evidence and a vote by the

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Speaker 1: full Commission. But he does have a Republican majority in

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Speaker 1: the FCCA, and he can launch investigations, and the investigations

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Speaker 1: themselves can create pressure. Right, it's coercion, it's extortion, essentially,

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Speaker 1: it's it's sort of government extortion. Corporate boards, we know this.

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Speaker 1: They hate regulatory fights, they hate uncertainty. And if a

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Speaker 1: network's coverage triggers FCC scrutiny, and by the way, the

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Speaker 1: broadcast networks, whatever's left of these big four, of these

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Speaker 1: big three and a half news divisions. I don't know

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Speaker 1: where to put Fox here, because their news divisions mostly

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Speaker 1: out of their cable outlet. They really don't much stuff

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Speaker 1: on their national network. They do for big specials, but

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Speaker 1: not often. So mostly we're talking about ABCNBC and CBA

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Speaker 1: there are shells of their former selves. They they're barely doing.

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Speaker 1: They're doing like ten percent of the coverage that they

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Speaker 1: did even three or four years ago. This is really

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Speaker 1: going to put pressure and it's clear what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: This Next Star Tegna merger that's taking place, that's going

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Speaker 1: to combine and create the largest owner of individual TV

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Speaker 1: stations in the country. He's and you know, Next Star

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Speaker 1: is buying Tegna, and Next Star has been playing the

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Speaker 1: right wing foot seat and been doing little performative virtue

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Speaker 1: signaling in order to get this quick regulatory approval. And

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Speaker 1: we've seen, right, I mean, look, the the you know,

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Speaker 1: the the biggest, biggest mistake that was made was what

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Speaker 1: Bob Eiger did in settling the Stephanopolis lawsuit. Totally. What

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Speaker 1: it did is it made all three broadcast networks capitulators.

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Speaker 1: It stained them permanently, and this is why the rise

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Speaker 1: of a dependent media is become stronger and stronger. It's

561
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: now a self fulfilling prophecy. Right, the more Brendan Carr

562
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Speaker 1: manipulates the public and creates these false right wing narratives,

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Speaker 1: the more these broadcast networks capitulate, and the more they

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Speaker 1: do nothing, and they come across as feckless fools. And

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Speaker 1: it's unfortunate. There's some good journalists there and the smart

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Speaker 1: ones are leaving. You kind of have to leave if

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Speaker 1: you want to keep your integrity because it's clear the

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Speaker 1: corporations aren't going to allow journalists to keep their integrity here,

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Speaker 1: and that's unfortunate. But you know what, maybe we'd be

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Speaker 1: better off to not have corporate shareholder impact where the

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Speaker 1: government regulatory process can impact freedom of speech and freedom

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Speaker 1: of the press. But it's clear Brendan Carr is hoping

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Speaker 1: to do that, to use corporate extortion to essentially get

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Speaker 1: propaganda on the airways, and it aligns closely with proposals

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Speaker 1: that were outlined and that's so called twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: blueprint for government. The idea is to reinterpret the phrase

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Speaker 1: news distortion as a failure of character qualification under the

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Speaker 1: public interest standard. So it's not censorship, is what car

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Speaker 1: and his supporters would argue. It's regulation. Doubtful the legal

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Speaker 1: theory would survive real serious judiciary scrutiny. First Amendment creates

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00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: an extremely high bar here. But again, the investigation itself

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Speaker 1: is the point, right. But I have to imagine the

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Speaker 1: reaction if Barack Obama has suggested that Fox News needed

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Speaker 1: to quote correct course on wartime reporting or risk it's

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Speaker 1: broadcast licenses the right wing pitchforks. They'd already be stabbing

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Speaker 1: people to death. The outrage would have been deafening. The

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00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: principle would have been obvious, and I'd have been right

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Speaker 1: there with them. Government officials cannot threaten the press over

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Speaker 1: coverage of war propaganda. Pee can do everything he can. Here,

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Speaker 1: he's making a fool of himself. And you know what's

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Speaker 1: also ugly, what President Trump and Haig Seth doing to

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Speaker 1: celebrate the destruction. There's no celebration in destroying anything. It's

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Speaker 1: a sad consequence of diploma of a failure of diplomacy.

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Speaker 1: And it may be a ron's failure of a diplomacy,

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Speaker 1: but it's tragic that this is happening. It's not something

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Speaker 1: to celebrate, to intersperse with football highlights, to drag professional

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00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: athletes into this, It's sick and gross. Pete haiks Seth

598
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: should be so fired, so impeached. So just absolutely this

599
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Speaker 1: is he is an embarrassment to what he's doing, and

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Speaker 1: he is. I assume many uniform military folks are just

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Speaker 1: appalled at the behavior of propaganda Pete. So the government's

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Speaker 1: narrative is being tested most directly by one place on

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Speaker 1: the map, the strait of war moves this look. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the president can complain that the press isn't celebrating its

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00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: military victory enough, but what were your war aims? Your

606
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Speaker 1: war aims have not come to fruition yet. Iran has

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Speaker 1: not capitulated. There is not a new regime. And if anything,

608
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: terrorist threats against Americans are now up, not down. This

609
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: was supposed to limit the terrorism. Now it's expanding it.

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Speaker 1: We had two attacks over the last seventy two hours

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Speaker 1: in this country. Wanted old Dominion, wanted a synagogue in Michigan.

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Speaker 1: I don't think our leaders have properly prepared Americans that

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Speaker 1: this is now something we all have to live with

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Speaker 1: being a Jewish American, it is not new to me

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Speaker 1: to have security in and around synagogues. We've been doing

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Speaker 1: this for years. We spend millions of dollars a year

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Speaker 1: for security. This very small group of people has to

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Speaker 1: spend all this money on our own. Ditto with those

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Speaker 1: that practice is in this country. The majority religions haven't

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Speaker 1: had to do this, but have had to do this,

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Speaker 1: so we know firsthand the impact of threats of terrorism.

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Speaker 1: This administration is not prepared the country for this, and

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Speaker 1: I do fear that this war has already essentially launched

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Speaker 1: two terrorist attacks in this country. This is the fallout,

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Speaker 1: This is the risk of doing this, and the President

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00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: did nothing to prepare the country for this, did nothing

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00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: to rally the country or prepare us for the consequences.

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Speaker 1: We all have to live with the consequences. We in

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Speaker 1: a free and independent press have to report on the

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Speaker 1: actual reality and what's happening here, and the fact that

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Speaker 1: the administration doesn't want the truth to come out should

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Speaker 1: scare the shit out of all of you. I apologize

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Speaker 1: that I've been a little four letter wordy, but I'm

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Speaker 1: trying to get the FCC's attention right. I'm borrowing the

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Speaker 1: old seven words of George Carlin, so we may say

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Speaker 1: them all. I'm not going to say the f wort,

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Speaker 1: but it's this is look, I vacillated about how hard

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Speaker 1: to come at car because he's like taken stupid shots

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Speaker 1: around that like claimed that Trump purged me from NBC

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Speaker 1: and Lester whole. I mean, it's kind of amusing, but

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Speaker 1: you know there is some truthiness. Right. A lot of

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Speaker 1: us felt we couldn't practice independent journalism anymore and it

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Speaker 1: was just useless to stay if you want to do

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Speaker 1: your job. And that's a real decision that many a

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Speaker 1: journalist is having to make right now. But I believe

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Speaker 1: in our constitution and above all, because if it goes away,

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Speaker 1: you know, then it is the rules of the jungle.

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Speaker 1: I don't want the rules of the jungle. I like

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Speaker 1: to support it and defend it and explain it. So

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Speaker 1: all of you know all of the rights you really

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Speaker 1: have here. The good news is Brendan Carr's threats will

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Speaker 1: go nowhere. The courts will stop him. I know what

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Speaker 1: you're thinking. All the courts have been manipulated a little bit,

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Speaker 1: not that much, not that much. Okay, the courts are

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Speaker 1: definitely more pro business than ever before. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: sit here and say that the corporate America has a

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Speaker 1: more friendly court system today than they did fifteen years ago.

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Speaker 1: But on the basics of our rights on speech, I

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Speaker 1: don't think this is going to go This is going

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Speaker 1: to go well for him. But just the ability to

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Speaker 1: scare you, the ability to distract, and this is well.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I hesitated getting involved because it the

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Speaker 1: fact is, they just want a distraction from what is

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable reality of this war. It's been a tactical military success,

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Speaker 1: but if you don't achieve the aims of the war,

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Speaker 1: what is the success. What have you gotten for your efforts?

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Speaker 1: And right now we are getting higher prices, we are

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Speaker 1: getting a more unstable glow, we are getting more threats

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Speaker 1: of terrorist attacks. The President owes the American public and explanation.

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Speaker 1: Why paying higher prices and being less safe is the

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Speaker 1: price to pay for this war? Trust me, I want

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Speaker 1: the Iranian regime gone. It has been a singular scourge

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Speaker 1: on free people that live in Israel in particular. But

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Speaker 1: it's been. They've been, They've been a scourge. The golf

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Speaker 1: has been trying to develop for years, and the Iranians

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Speaker 1: have tried to prevent that from happening. This is not

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Speaker 1: a good regime. And I shouldn't say the Iranians this regime,

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Speaker 1: just like I don't like when people say the Americans,

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Speaker 1: it's this administration. A new regime would absolutely be has

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Speaker 1: to be better for the world than this regime. But

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Speaker 1: there's cost and this president did nothing to explain the costs,

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Speaker 1: and he apparently ignored civilian leadership, excuse me, military leadership

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Speaker 1: when they told him the honest truth about how hard

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Speaker 1: victory was actually going to be. All right, let's stick

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Speaker 1: you to all of my sponsors, and thank you for

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Speaker 1: supporting independent journalism. As we've now learned, we know the

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Speaker 1: broadcast networks, their corporate parents will not stand up to

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Speaker 1: this administration. They should on behalf of their journalists. I

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Speaker 1: know my colleagues are begging for these wimpy network corporate

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Speaker 1: so thank you sponsors for supporting independent journalism. That's the

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Speaker 1: only way you're going to get an honest assessment of

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Speaker 1: Like I've always said, I practiced, I cover politics as

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Speaker 1: it is, not as I wish it were, and miss

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Speaker 1: politics as it is. With the Chuck Podcast today, let's

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Speaker 1: The question is if, basically, if all the billionaires are

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Speaker 1: time machine is time, and it's when time stopped being local.

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Speaker 1: So if you traveled across the United States in eighteen fifty,

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Speaker 1: the time changed constantly, not because you crossed time zones,

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Speaker 1: but because every town kept its own time. Noon was

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Speaker 1: simply when the sun reached its highest point in the sky.

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Speaker 1: Travel west and noon came a few minutes later. Travel east,

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Speaker 1: and it came a few minutes earlier. Each town set

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Speaker 1: its clock literally by the sun right for centuries. The

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Speaker 1: system worked pretty well until modern life made it nearly impossible.

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Speaker 1: And on March nineteenth, an anniversary will be celebrating later

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Speaker 1: this week. On March nineteenth, nineteen eighteen, so just over

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Speaker 1: one hundred years ago, Congress passed the Standard Time Act,

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Speaker 1: officially creating national time zones in the United States. And

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Speaker 1: you know, okay, it sounds bureaucratic, but it was one

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Speaker 1: of the quiet revolutions that made modern life that we

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Speaker 1: all enjoy today possible. So the time before standard time,

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Speaker 1: what was that like? Well, for most of human history,

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Speaker 1: timekeeping was both local and natural sundials, church bells, town clocks.

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Speaker 1: Mechanical clocks eventually made time keeping a bit more precise,

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Speaker 1: but they didn't standardize time. Each town still ran on

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Speaker 1: solar time, and by the mid eighteen hundred to the

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Speaker 1: United States had hundreds of local time standards, and that

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Speaker 1: didn't matter until what the arrival of the railroads, We

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Speaker 1: got the railroad problem. Railroads created the first truly national

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Speaker 1: transportation network. That's great, railroads require precise schedules, but the

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Speaker 1: country was still operating on hundreds of local clocks. By

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Speaker 1: the eighteen seven, the United States had more than three hundred.

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Speaker 1: That's right, three zero zero, three hundred different local time zones.

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Speaker 1: Chicago alone reportedly had twenty one different local times. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing. At Marshall Field it's twelve oh five, but

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Speaker 1: at Wrigley Field it's twelve ten. But I digress. But

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Speaker 1: in all honesty, it was it all dependent on which

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Speaker 1: railroad station you were standing in. And you know they

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Speaker 1: were at a crossroads to Chicago, so they were all

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Speaker 1: sorts of railroad stations. Coordinating trains under those conditions wasn't

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Speaker 1: just confusing, it actually was dangerous. And in fact, like

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Speaker 1: everything in our country, it takes injury harm to the

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Speaker 1: populace before we do something. But it is worth noting

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Speaker 1: the man who imagined global time, and I want to

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Speaker 1: give a shout out to the intellectual architect of standardized time.

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Speaker 1: His name was Sanford Fleming. Fleming was frustrated by chaotic

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Speaker 1: railroad schedules, and in the eighteen seventies he proposed dividing

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Speaker 1: the globe into twenty four time zones, each representing one

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Speaker 1: hour of Earth's rotation. Today the idea feels obvious, Well duh,

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Speaker 1: somebody had to see it first, So let's give old

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Speaker 1: Sanford Fleming the shout out here at the time. It

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Speaker 1: was a radical idea, and instead of every town keeping

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Speaker 1: its own solar time, entire regions which share a single clock.

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Speaker 1: Railroads actually decided to adopt Fleming's logic before the governments did,

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Speaker 1: and so on November eighteenth, eighteen eighty three, American railroads

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Speaker 1: private entities imposed standardized time zones. The government was not involved. Eastern,

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Speaker 1: Central Mountain, and Pacific the four main time zones of

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Speaker 1: the continental United States. On November eighteenth, they were born

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Speaker 1: thanks to the railroads. Railroad station synchronized clocks using telegraph signals.

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Speaker 1: In many towns, people experience what newspapers called the day

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Speaker 1: of two noons. First came noon according to the Sun.

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Speaker 1: Then railroad officials reset the clocks. Suddenly it was noon again.

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Speaker 1: Some people simply adjusted their watches. Others were a bit

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Speaker 1: more upset about it. As you know, we always debate

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Speaker 1: these time zone issues, and we've been debating them since

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Speaker 1: we decided to do this. Critics called it railroad time,

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Speaker 1: and that wasn't a compliment to them. It was corporations

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Speaker 1: dictating the rhythm of daily life. See, we're always angry

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Speaker 1: at big entities back then in the nineteenth century is

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Speaker 1: big railroad. Some clergy even denounced it as unnatural, using

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Speaker 1: religion to weigh in on things. Again, some things never

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Speaker 1: change in our politics right. One sermon warned that the

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Speaker 1: railroads were trying to change the sun itself. What engineers

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Speaker 1: saw as efficiency, others saw as an attempt to rewrite nature.

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Speaker 1: Then the dangers became undeniable. In eighteen ninety one, two

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Speaker 1: trains approached each other near Kipton, Ohio. The system depended

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Speaker 1: on precise timing. One train was supposed to clear the

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Speaker 1: track before the other arrived, but the engineer's watch had

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Speaker 1: stopped for four minutes. That tiny error caused a head

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Speaker 1: on collision. Eight people were killed. The accident shocked the

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Speaker 1: railroad industry. Investigators concluded the problem wasn't just scheduling, it

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Speaker 1: was timekeeping itself. Railroads began enforcing stricter standards. Engineers had

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Speaker 1: to carry certified railroad grade watches. Those watches had to

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Speaker 1: meet exact specifications. They had to be open face pocket watches,

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Speaker 1: not hunting case watches with lids, because opening a lid

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Speaker 1: wasted precious seconds. The pocket watch anyway, they had to

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Speaker 1: remain accurate to within thirty seconds per week, and they

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Speaker 1: were inspected regularly by certified railroad time inspects. How about

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Speaker 1: that for your bureaucredit. See some jobs do get eliminated

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Speaker 1: as technology goes over time. We used to have people

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Speaker 1: who did nothing but inspect watches at railroad stations, and

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Speaker 1: now we have the atomic clock. I got ahead of

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Speaker 1: ourselves here, but anyway, it is fun to remind people that,

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Speaker 1: you know, jobs get taken away and jobs get at it.

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Speaker 1: You just never know. Railroad safety now depended on something

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Speaker 1: incredibly small, a watch ticking correctly in a conductor's pocket. Meanwhile, scientists,

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Speaker 1: we're trying to build a global system of an agreed

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Speaker 1: upon time, if you will. In eighteen eighty four, an

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Speaker 1: international conference adopted Greenwich Meantime GMT. You've probably seen it, well,

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Speaker 1: it's the world's prime meridian. Navigation, astronomy and global commerce

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Speaker 1: began coordinating around that single shared clock. But everyday life

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Speaker 1: in America was still governed by railroad practice rather than

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Speaker 1: federal law now entered daylight saving time. Daylight saving time

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Speaker 1: it in the seventeen hundred, So our friends at at

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Speaker 1: that was correct history. But the modern campaign came from

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00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,760
Speaker 1: a gentleman named William Willett, the British builder who believed

851
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: shifting clocks forward would give people more usable evening daylight.

852
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,840
Speaker 1: Will It spent years promoting the idea. He died in

853
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: nineteen fifteen, one year before daylight saving time was adopted

854
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: in Europe during World War One. He never got to

855
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: actually see his idea implemented. But look what triggered governments

856
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: getting involved in time World War One? Back then, of course,

857
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,360
Speaker 1: it was just the Great War. War finally forced governments

858
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: to act. Or one required massive industrial coordination. Railroads moved troops,

859
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: factories produced weapons. Energy had to be conserved, and the

860
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 1: fuel that powered industry was coal. Officials believed shifting clocks

861
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: forward would reduce evening lighting demand and save millions of

862
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: tons of coal. Germany adopted daylight savings time in nineteen sixteen,

863
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 1: and other countries quickly followed suit. Hence, March nineteenth, nineteen eighteen,

864
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: when the United States entered the war, that's when Congress

865
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,920
Speaker 1: formalized the system. The Standard Time Act officially recognized the

866
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: four time zones already used by the railroads, and it

867
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,320
Speaker 1: introduced at the same time nationwide daylight saving time, so

868
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: for the first time time itself became officially federal infrastructure.

869
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: Now the farmer myth Today many people think daylight saving

870
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: time was created for farmers. Oh no, the opposite is true.

871
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: Farmers were amongst its strongest opponents. Their work followed the sun,

872
00:55:27,840 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: not the clock. Cows didn't care what Congress said the

873
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: time was they needed milking when the sun came up

874
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: hard stop. So when the war ended, opposition grew quickly,

875
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: and Congress repealed daylight saving time. In nineteen nineteen. President

876
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: Woodrow Wilson vetoed the repeal. Wilson believed daylight saving time

877
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: improved productivity, and according to several contemporary accounts, he also

878
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 1: enjoyed the extra evening daylight for golf. Congress overrode is

879
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: veto Obviously, not enough golfers, yet in Congress, they wouldn't

880
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 1: have done that today, would they. Daylight saving time disappeared

881
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: nationally until World War Two. World War two, daylight saving

882
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: time returned. This time it stayed year round. From forty

883
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: two to forty five, the country operated on quote wartime.

884
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 1: When the war ended, local choice returned and chaos followed.

885
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: By the nineteen fifties, the system had become wildly inconsistent again.

886
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 1: Cities adopted daylight saving time, nearby towns rejected it. One

887
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: bus route reportedly passed through seven time changes within thirty

888
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: five miles. Businesses struggled to coordinate schedules, so Congress had

889
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,919
Speaker 1: a step in again, the Uniform Time Act. Nineteen sixty six,

890
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: Congress passed the Uniform Time Act, standardizing when daylight Saving

891
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: Time begins and ends nationwide. And they've been tinkering with

892
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 1: this sucker ever since. We used to have it six

893
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: month and six months now. Of course we've had the

894
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: mission cree right, keep it longer and longer and longer

895
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: till eventually they're going to try to bring it all

896
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: back again. But I'm going to get to that in

897
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: a minute. But the law they passed in sixty six

898
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: did still allow states to opt out, which is why

899
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: even today Arizona still does not observe daylight saving time.

900
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: It is for half plus another month of the year

901
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: on one in the Mountain time zone, and then they're

902
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: in the Pacific Time Zone for the other part. Why

903
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 1: does not observe daylight saving time. The Navajo Nation inside

904
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: Arizona does observe daylight saving time. Indiana spent decades split

905
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: between time zones before standardizing statewide daylight saving in two

906
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: thousand and six, but even today standardized time contains a

907
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: bunch of local exceptions. Now, though it was we did

908
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: one more experiment, a year round daylight saving time. We

909
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: tried it again in nineteen seventy four during the original

910
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: oil crisis. Obviously, the idea was energy conservation, but winter

911
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 1: mornings became dangerously dark. Officials called the ending called for

912
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: ending the experiment. Florida, remember home to two cent marko Ruby,

913
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: was the lead center of trying to get trying to

914
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: go to standardize time zone. But ironically it was Florida

915
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: where there was an incident that triggered getting rid of

916
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 1: the year long daylight saving Officials called for an ending

917
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 1: the experiment after eight kids were killed in traffic accidents

918
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: in a single month, all while waiting for school buses

919
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: before sunrise. Within a year, the policy it was indeed abandoned.

920
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 1: So for most of human history, time belonged to the

921
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: sun and the local town and the clock tower. However,

922
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: you built your clock tower. Railroads imposed coordinated time for

923
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: obvious reasons, War forced governments to actually have to regulate

924
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: it for even more obvious reasons, and ever since politics

925
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: has been arguing about how the clock should work. Ever since.

926
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: Today the world's clocks are synchronized not by the sun

927
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: or by the railroads, but by atomic clock so precise

928
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: they lose only a second every hundreds of millions of years.

929
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: But the principle remains the same. Whoever controls the clock

930
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: quietly does shape daily life, work hours, markets, transportations, and

931
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: even sleep. Which is why this debate is never going

932
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 1: to end, regardless of what Congress does, whether they continue

933
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: to do the mission creep of daylight saving and the

934
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 1: ridiculousness right now of all the darkness in the morning

935
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: for so many of us on the East Coast, and

936
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: all of the messing with everybody's body clock. What's funny

937
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: is that the older you are, the less you care

938
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 1: about daylight in the evening hours, and the younger you are,

939
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 1: and the more you look forward to the daylight in

940
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: the evening hours. At least that's the way I remembered

941
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: it as a kid. Either way, time doesn't stand still.

942
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: Now doesn't all right, I had to try one bad

943
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,959
Speaker 1: dad juke there at the end. There you go. There's

944
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: your history lesson for the week. Everything you needed to

945
00:59:50,600 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 1: know about time. Ask Chuck. All right, just a few questions, Uh,

946
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: do a couple of them here? All right? This one

947
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: Jay new York, and he wants them. This is a

948
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 1: five timer. He has too many good questions. So that's

949
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: why he makes it. You got to learn from Jay

950
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: new York. Thank you to answered my question recently about

951
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: the link between populism and Semitism. I wanted to ask

952
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: a follow up about the main Senate Democratic primary. The

953
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: populist Graham Platner continues to lead in polls and earn

954
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 1: endorsements despite recent headlines that added to a troubling anti

955
01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: Semitic narrative. As a friend to the Jewish community, I'm

956
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: concerned about the moral implications of elevating someone with his

957
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 1: background as someone who wants to defeat Susan Collins. I'm

958
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: concerned about the strategic implications of elevating someone who will

959
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: be inundated with two hundred fifty dollars worth of Nazi

960
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: tattoo ads. Do you think the Democrats might be walking

961
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: into a trap here? Or is this just not a

962
01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:47,120
Speaker 1: saying issue in Maine. We love your thoughts of this

963
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: unique race. PS. If you answer this, I'm officially in

964
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 1: the five time club. Keep me in mind if you

965
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: ever do any five Time merchandise. I think, look, I

966
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: need to mess around with this merchandise idea. And so

967
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: we are officially considered this a We are officially NASA

968
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: and Lauren we are gonna do merch Okay, there's too many,

969
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:13,440
Speaker 1: but we're only going to do fun stuff. Podcast time Machine,

970
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: five Time ass Chuck. I kinda I kind of dig

971
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: this because it's it falls under the category if you know,

972
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, if I can do this without losing losing

973
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: my shirt? Literally, we are going to do this because

974
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: this is too much fun. I don't know it's the

975
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: simple answer here. I vacillate on this. I think there's

976
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: a lot of there's a part of me I think,

977
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: you know, Unfortunately, if you don't live in a community

978
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: with many Jewish people or many Muslim people, you don't

979
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: learn much about Islam and you don't learn much amount

980
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: of Judaism. And I accept the premise, you know, I

981
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: sort of you know, I was I lived in a

982
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,600
Speaker 1: Jewish bubble, and I didn't fully appreciate that I lived

983
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: in a Jews bubble. Growing up in Miami. You know,

984
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 1: it was not uncommon that there were six or eight

985
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 1: of us celebrating Hanukkah, not uncommon that there were a

986
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 1: bunch of us, you know, doing Passover. So I never

987
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,200
Speaker 1: felt I knew I was in the minority, but I

988
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: never felt isolated. And I say this because if you so,

989
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:24,560
Speaker 1: there's a I want to have, I think that it's

990
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: I think if you're young and dumb and you and

991
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: you say some things, you get a tattoo, it shouldn't

992
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't mark you for life if you don't. If you're

993
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: somebody who's educating yourself as you go out through life,

994
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:43,400
Speaker 1: and you sort of you know, we've got to allow

995
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: people to evolve and get smarter and the more they learn, right,

996
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, I think we do a terrible job of

997
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,959
Speaker 1: educating people about the Middle East. You've heard me rail

998
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: about and I put my money where my mouth is.

999
01:02:54,520 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the inspirations for my whole Time

1000
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 1: Machine segment is by frustration over how people teach the

1001
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: Middle East, how poorly we've taught World War one, how

1002
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,160
Speaker 1: poorly we've taught about the fall of the Ottoman Empire.

1003
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,600
Speaker 1: Most people think the Middle East began in nineteen forty

1004
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: eight with a partition, and it just so. I mean,

1005
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: in many ways, my obsessions with teaching more history and

1006
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: connecting history with what's going on now are at the

1007
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: are at its roots this issue and a guy who

1008
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 1: grew up without knowing any Jews, and when you don't

1009
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: grow up knowing a minority group at all, it becomes

1010
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: a lot easier to turn them that minority group into

1011
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: a two dimensional figure in your brain. And then it's

1012
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: astonishing that once people meet people from said minority group

1013
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: that they've never met, then all of a sudden they

1014
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: see these you see each other as three dimensional figures,

1015
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: and then suddenly the stupid hate notes away. There can

1016
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: be some caricatures and still some stereotypes that don't go away,

1017
01:03:55,240 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 1: you know, like the insistent, you know, the constant reminder

1018
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: of how of which wealthy people happen to be Jewish?

1019
01:04:04,840 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: What about the wealthy people that aren't Jewish? Does that

1020
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: indicate the Christians control all this money? So it's a

1021
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 1: it's a really uncomfortable when when people go down that road.

1022
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't think they realize how they're indicting than anybody

1023
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:21,200
Speaker 1: from any faith, any group of people anyway. It's just

1024
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: it's very disturbing when it's done, and it's obviously done

1025
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 1: for some it's a way to try to turn working

1026
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: class and poor people who may not know everything about

1027
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: the entity, about what's being debated, automatically against an entire

1028
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 1: group of people. So I say all that in that

1029
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,800
Speaker 1: what Graham Platner thought and did years ago should be

1030
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: a data point, not the data point. It's how he

1031
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 1: responds to the attacks. It's how he reassures members of

1032
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: the Jewish community and members of any minority community that

1033
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: he hasn't agree with, whether they should feel comfortable that

1034
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:08,760
Speaker 1: he's going to represent their interests. Now, you know a

1035
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 1: lot of this, a lot of this timing matters here, right,

1036
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: What's what's going to be the focal point? I The

1037
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: question is in most campaigns, who's it going to be

1038
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 1: a referendumunt? Is this a referendum on Trump? Is this

1039
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: a referendum on Platner? Is this a referendum on Collins?

1040
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: And ultimately, which campaign is able to write she wants

1041
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: to make it a referendum on Platner. If Platner gets

1042
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 1: a nomination, Mills wants to make it an electability argument,

1043
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: which about Platner, which only but it doesn't fix the

1044
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 1: perception of the problems that some in the in the

1045
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: Democratic base had with her. So it could be a

1046
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 1: problem if he's a bad candidate. It's not a problem

1047
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: if his if he's truly evolved from the guy who

1048
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 1: had the Nats who decide who made the decision to

1049
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: get the Nazi tattoo right? Is that you know, it's

1050
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,840
Speaker 1: sort of like who is the real grand Platner. We're

1051
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 1: gonna the campaign itself will expose this. Campaigns are MRIs

1052
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: for the soul, not just presidential campaigns, but pretty high

1053
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: expensive campaigns are. So ultimately we'll we'll learn from Platner

1054
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: and we'll see how he handles this. I've been I

1055
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: would give him about a C minus so far in

1056
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 1: handling this. He's he's done the bare minimum. But I

1057
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,960
Speaker 1: don't I think they're trying so hard to avoid it

1058
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: that it because I think they're they don't have I

1059
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:40,360
Speaker 1: think he's changed the explanation a couple of times, which

1060
01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: then doesn't help the situation. But It's also very possible

1061
01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 1: that he could not manage this well and still win.

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01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 1: That's how much I think this becomes a referendum on

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01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: Trump into a less or so on Collins. So, now,

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01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,840
Speaker 1: if there's a high profile attack on Jews that take

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01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 1: place in October and the way things are going, the

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01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: likelihood of that is not low. Unfortunately, that could change.

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01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: That could change things in this race. Right, That's one

1068
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,000
Speaker 1: of those where how things play out could change things.

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01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: But in some ways I think he has not inoculated

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01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: himself enough on this issue. Next question comes from Lauren

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Speaker 1: mm hey. Thanks for introducing us to the Perfect Neighbor documentary.

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01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: I was very impressed with their ability to string together

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01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: bodycam video pretty seamlessly into a comprehensive storyline. I was

1074
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: also impressed by the professionalism and kindness of the police

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01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 1: towards the community. What a sorrowful story, but an important

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01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: one to share in Lauren m Lauren, That's exactly the

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01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: impression I got, And I understand. You know, we had

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01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 1: this long debate with the filmmaker about how should you know?

1079
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 1: And I think I think various people view the behavior

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01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 1: of the police in different ways, and but it it

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01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I mean, I think it's I think to

1082
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: me it was a reminder why body footage should be

1083
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: a necessity and there shouldn't be any law enforcement without

1084
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:08,440
Speaker 1: it and all times, and there's no doubt, right incentives.

1085
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:12,240
Speaker 1: When you have good incentive structures, your behavior changes, and

1086
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,960
Speaker 1: these police officers have good incentive structures and their behavior

1087
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: whether you know. I think it's a reminder that I

1088
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 1: think ninety five percent of police officers, you know, their

1089
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,240
Speaker 1: intent is to keep calm. Their intent is to be

1090
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 1: a member of the community, not an enforcer of law

1091
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,599
Speaker 1: inside the community. Right, So I'm with you. I think

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01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: that's it's a tragic story. I think there's reminders of,

1093
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: you know, how institutional racism does play can play itself

1094
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 1: out into society and ways that we don't fully see,

1095
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 1: but you kind of have to experience this. But just

1096
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: going through it and realizing, you know, the world that

1097
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: that woman was raised in and the war and it

1098
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:54,400
Speaker 1: just it's it's tragic, but it was. It was just

1099
01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 1: such a wealthier I'm so glad you enjoyed it. And

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01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 1: this just makes me go, I continue, you know, because

1101
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:06,240
Speaker 1: these aren't always the best interviews for the utube algorithms, right,

1102
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. But this is why I want

1103
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: to keep fighting to get these important conversations in the

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01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: audio space. Brian from Marlington, Virginia rights, Hey, I live

1105
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: in Virginia, but loved your recent top five Texas state

1106
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: y racist. Perhaps you'll add this small twist to the

1107
01:09:23,400 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 1: Bush the bench Benson honorable mention story in a future telling. Yes,

1108
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 1: George HW. Bush lost that Senate race to Benson, but

1109
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,960
Speaker 1: he got more than even Bush Quail Pete to cockas

1110
01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: Benson in the eighty eight US presidential election. Absolutely, Brian,

1111
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta love the fact that they faced

1112
01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 1: off twice, right, Like, it's just such a you know,

1113
01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: I just love those little I'm with you that thread.

1114
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: You're right, that was like the thread I think was implied,

1115
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,600
Speaker 1: but I didn't say it directly. It's a it's a

1116
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,560
Speaker 1: great it's you know. That's why I love history. I

1117
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,920
Speaker 1: love the I love how everything is connectedly one large

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01:09:53,960 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: family tree of American history. Last question before I keep

1119
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: going to a quick little uh my advice for filling

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01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: out here into DOAA bracket. This comes from Luke and

1121
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: he writes, happened to notice Trump's post on troop social

1122
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: today lotting his ability to change the American media landscape,

1123
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:14,919
Speaker 1: and I noticed you happen to be featured. Yeah, congrats

1124
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: to me. I think listeners know your opinion on the

1125
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,320
Speaker 1: administration's meddling in the free press by now. But I'm

1126
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,560
Speaker 1: curious how you feel about the President taking credit for

1127
01:10:21,640 --> 01:10:24,559
Speaker 1: your move to independent media. Seems the Post is suggesting

1128
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 1: that he's removed your influence in public discourse, among others.

1129
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: But I wonder if you feel your reach has grown

1130
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:33,000
Speaker 1: or shrunk since the move. Independent media has certainly allowed

1131
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 1: you to speak more freely, and I, for one, have

1132
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: loved the change. Should I thank Trump? I guess thanks

1133
01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 1: for everything you do. Luke. You know it's funny. You

1134
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: know you're like, well, thanks for caring, mister president. I'm

1135
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 1: so glad you cared. It's I will tell you how

1136
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 1: I know that I've gotten some really good traction. So

1137
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: for last summer through say, you know, September October, I'd

1138
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 1: run into people who would say, hey, I miss you

1139
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: on Meet the Press? What are you doing now? Over

1140
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:14,400
Speaker 1: the last three months pretty much since election Day twenty

1141
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 1: twenty five. You know, it's just sort of how I

1142
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: can tell it's building. It's like, hey, I miss you

1143
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,720
Speaker 1: on Meet the Press, but I love what you're doing. So,

1144
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, like everything, it takes time to build. But

1145
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,680
Speaker 1: in some ways, I mean, thank you, mister President. Incredible

1146
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 1: endorsement of why you can't trust you know, they're trying

1147
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 1: to extort the corporations that that that own broadcast media.

1148
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: He's acknowledged that I was one that spoke truth to

1149
01:11:44,920 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: power and they didn't like it, you know, I mean

1150
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 1: it is nobody had ever successfully you know, I'd all

1151
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: the attacks by sort of the right wing, you know,

1152
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: sort of message machine, you know, you're your sort of

1153
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:06,120
Speaker 1: your dumbasses, right the Fox and Friends world and Hannity

1154
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 1: and O'Reilly back before there was an O'Reilly, you know,

1155
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 1: the ones that were just sort of like paint by

1156
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: numbers there. Every attack on me never was substantive. It

1157
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: was always a derivative of, oh, I know a Democrat,

1158
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,720
Speaker 1: or I'm related to a democrat, or I'm married to

1159
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:27,679
Speaker 1: somebody who's in partisan politics, or i'm there were always

1160
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: these derivatives. There was never they never there was never

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01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: the actual substance of what I did, and nobody would

1162
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: ever say I was an unfair interviewer. They couldn't even

1163
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,560
Speaker 1: say that either. So it was always an attempt to

1164
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: do guilt by association, guilt by association if I had,

1165
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,880
Speaker 1: if I interacted with people in the other political party,

1166
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,560
Speaker 1: guilt by association where I work, guilt by association. And

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01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: it was always just sort of ham handed, and it

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01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 1: was it was done in such a way that never

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01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:57,439
Speaker 1: hurt my credibility. It only enhanced it. And this, I mean,

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01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: my goodness, thank you, mister president. I mean, what a

1171
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: way to enhance my credibility as an independent journalist to

1172
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,840
Speaker 1: note that you that you're you're claiming you are manipulating.

1173
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean, if I am at one of these broadcast networks,

1174
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: I hate what he did because he's put everybody in

1175
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 1: a terrible position. And again I urge the CEOs of

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01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: these major corporations that own these broadcast news divisions to

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01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: grow a frickin' spine and stand up and say, hey,

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01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: I don't always like what they report, but I'm never

1179
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 1: standing in the way of what they're doing. Get out

1180
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 1: your big boy pants and put them on all right.

1181
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: Stop capitulating, Stop settling bullshit lawsuits, mister Haiger, stop spinning

1182
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: off cable channels just to appease regulators, mister Roberts. And then,

1183
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,640
Speaker 1: of course, you know what the ellisids are doing is

1184
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: classic virtue signaling that the the worst of all worlds

1185
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 1: we know's going to come as soon as there's a

1186
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,599
Speaker 1: new administration. They're just going to cut loose the entire

1187
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: news division anyway and get rid of it. And not

1188
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 1: what the headache, you know what, please just sell the

1189
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:17,000
Speaker 1: news divisions. Just sell them, allow for truly independent board

1190
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:20,800
Speaker 1: of directors, independent ownership. We cannot have anybody who can

1191
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: be extorted by any entity in government, whether it's a

1192
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 1: left wing government or a right wing government, not if

1193
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 1: we want to protect what we care about as freedom

1194
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:34,160
Speaker 1: of the press. So anyway, I was amused, and at

1195
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 1: the end of the day it was in many ways,

1196
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:42,519
Speaker 1: and I viewed it as an endorsement. So thank you

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01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: for noticing, thank you for the question, and thanks for

1198
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: the support and the growth, because this is how we

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Speaker 1: rebuild a trusted information ecosystem and I'm proud of what

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01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,439
Speaker 1: we're doing. So thank you, And with that, let's get

1201
01:14:58,439 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: to some serious business filling out your bracket. Look, I'm

1202
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 1: going to be very careful here here's what I will

1203
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 1: just tell you. I know everybody will tell you there's

1204
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 1: always a thirteen seed that you have to contemplate, and

1205
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, usually, boy, those twelve five matchups are always tough,

1206
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 1: and you got to take a tw This is going

1207
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: to be a chalky year, Okay. I put it this way.

1208
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 1: I am The last thing I'd want to be is

1209
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: a seventh seed or higher in this tournament because if

1210
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,360
Speaker 1: you're facing a one or two seed in the second round,

1211
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: you are screwed. The number ones and number twos are

1212
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: so much better. There's a couple of stats you need

1213
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,519
Speaker 1: to be paying attention to. Just it is okay to

1214
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: get chalky with your brackets. And here's why. There's some

1215
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:49,120
Speaker 1: great analysis that this year's Bubble Teams was the worst

1216
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 1: set of Bubble teams that have been in contention, meaning

1217
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 1: these essentially some of these teams wouldn't have even been

1218
01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: on the bubble in previous years because their records aren't

1219
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:03,280
Speaker 1: not that good. I'm looking at you, Auburn, their metrics

1220
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: aren't that great. Like it just you know, look, you

1221
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,439
Speaker 1: got to put sixty eight teams in and there's always

1222
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 1: you know where it will get up. And yes, I'm

1223
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:15,360
Speaker 1: for ninety six. In case anybody's asking whatever it is,

1224
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: I think ninety six would would would would take you

1225
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,640
Speaker 1: to another adding another thirty two. So I am in

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01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 1: favor of it personally, but I don't think you're going

1227
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 1: to see i'd be. I am highly doubtful. Put it

1228
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,960
Speaker 1: this way, I am not betting on a single double

1229
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: digit seed to make it to the sweet sixty. Maybe

1230
01:16:36,479 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: a one seed loses in the second round, but I

1231
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 1: don't buy that either. This could be the year the

1232
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: all ones and twos make it through the first weekend

1233
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:50,439
Speaker 1: and a lot of the And if you tell me

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01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:53,559
Speaker 1: you know there are more threes and fours than there

1235
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: are fives and six as it wouldn't surprise me either.

1236
01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,920
Speaker 1: It's the top ten is as strong as it's ever been,

1237
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: least amount of losses compared to previous top tens, and

1238
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 1: the bubble teams are The point is, you know, and

1239
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:10,000
Speaker 1: the reason I'm saying this out loud because I'm one

1240
01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: of those it screws up my brecket every year by trying.

1241
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,720
Speaker 1: I always picked the wrong twelves, the wrong thirteen, the

1242
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 1: wrong elevens. I'm right that there's a couple of elevens

1243
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:21,519
Speaker 1: that get there or twelve or that. What I'm saying

1244
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: this year is I'm avoiding those double digit seeds like

1245
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 1: the plague. That's my one piece of advice for you

1246
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 1: on that. My rooting interest. In case you're wondering, it's

1247
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: always GW basketball first before Miami Basketball, and we had

1248
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 1: a fun little run, should have beaten in Saint Louis,

1249
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 1: blew a big lead. It's the story of my time

1250
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: with GW. I can't tell you how many times in

1251
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:48,240
Speaker 1: key critical games that GW is blowing a double digit lead.

1252
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: I'm still still upset about one, going back to the

1253
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:53,400
Speaker 1: NCAA tournament in the early nineties against Iowa, I think

1254
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,920
Speaker 1: we blew a fifteen point lead with less than five

1255
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 1: minutes ago in a game in a first round matchup

1256
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: when Doctor Tom and I think it was doctor Tom

1257
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: Davis as the coach back then who never lost a

1258
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: first round matchup. It seemed any time it happened, we

1259
01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: were the one that he should have lost and it

1260
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 1: didn't happen. But that's always my primary. After that, it's Miami,

1261
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: and then after that I will tell you of the

1262
01:18:17,240 --> 01:18:21,280
Speaker 1: big top two seeds. You know, I'm kind of pulling

1263
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: for Houston. I kind of feel like they're the elite

1264
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: team that gets no respect. They're there every year, they

1265
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,759
Speaker 1: seem to always get there. They can't quite Calvin Sampson

1266
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: can't quite get that ring. What more, you know, he's

1267
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 1: one of the few guys that seems to have transitioned

1268
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 1: from the previous era of how you do college basketball

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Speaker 1: to this era of how you do it. They always

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Speaker 1: play gritty, they're tough, they're physical. It's not always the

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Speaker 1: prettiest game. But I find myself I'm kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I know most people either like to

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Speaker 1: root against Duke. I don't have those strong feelings about

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Speaker 1: Duke that others do. I strong feelings are always reserved

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Speaker 1: for one and one school only, and it's the school

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Speaker 1: that is in the most unfortunate geographic region in the

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Speaker 1: state of Florida, the armpit of Florida of the Peninsula.

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Speaker 1: It is Gainesville, the University of Florida, which of course

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Speaker 1: means they're likely going to win back to back titles.

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Speaker 1: But with that, there's my unofficial advice for how to

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Speaker 1: manage your bracket. I know I'm telling you to be chocky. Yes,

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Speaker 1: be chocky, be chocky. I will say this, I don't

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Speaker 1: trust yu Kon. They seem flawed looking backwards. It's amazing

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Speaker 1: Duke didn't win last year. It feels like, you know,

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Speaker 1: it feels like we're inevitably going to see some sort

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Speaker 1: of Duke Michigan rematch here. They seem to be up

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Speaker 1: and above, But boy, the Big twelve. What I love

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Speaker 1: about this tournament is that I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: some of these Big twelve teams play a few of

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Speaker 1: these ACC teams and Big ten teams, and all four

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Speaker 1: Power four conferences are going to have eight or more

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Speaker 1: in this sucker. How many have three or more left

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Speaker 1: by the second weekend that will determine prominence. It feels

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Speaker 1: like it's the SEC that's going to take the beat

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Speaker 1: down this year. That there's only Florida and maybe Vanderbilt

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Speaker 1: has the capability of getting to the eight. Maybe Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like them. You know, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: call somebody that's essentially a top twenty five team a

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Speaker 1: dark horse there in Vandy, but that's probably the only

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Speaker 1: other SEC team. You know, you never want to rule

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Speaker 1: out Calipari at Arkansas, But I think the SEC is

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Speaker 1: the conference that gets. You know, there's always one conference

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Speaker 1: that you know falls on its face in the first

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Speaker 1: first two rounds. Maybe I'm hoping it's the SEC because

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Speaker 1: I love rooting against them as an ACC guy. But

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Speaker 1: in all honesty, I the SEC seems the most vulnerably.

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Speaker 1: They're the lead, They're the lead. He's top heavy of

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Speaker 1: the conferences there. And I will say this, I do

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Speaker 1: think the ACC is getting disrespected that the idea that

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Speaker 1: only gets to be a high seat and none of

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Speaker 1: the other schools anyway, Just think all the ACC schools

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Speaker 1: feel like they're all seated about a slot too low.

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Speaker 1: But they've been punished for what was a bad year

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Speaker 1: last year. You know that stuff matters, even if they

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Speaker 1: say it's not supposed to matter. All right, enjoy the tournament,

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the next two next two weeks which are amazing.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you election night Tuesday night, Primary night in Illinois,

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Speaker 1: and of course right back here on Wednesday morning.