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Speaker 1: The show goes on. This is the official show on

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Speaker 1: the Pistripes podcast channel with me Eli Sussman, the managing

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Speaker 1: editor of This Stripes, where we tell you like it

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Speaker 1: is about the Marlins, whether you like it or not,

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Speaker 1: all the ups and the downs, except on this show.

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Speaker 1: Except on this particular episode, we're doing it a little

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Speaker 1: bit different. We are only focusing on the positives. We

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Speaker 1: are canceling out the honest seven and nineteen overall record

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Speaker 1: from the month of May for this Marlins team and

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Speaker 1: keeping it very simple in that way, highlighting the individuals

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Speaker 1: and the positive trends that we've seen with this team.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just me joined by Kevin Barral, joined

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Speaker 1: by Lewis Addio. Weiss need you guys to smile for me.

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Speaker 1: This is very positive positive on this one. Yeah, everything's

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Speaker 1: a couple hours after Edward Cabrera made his return to

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Speaker 1: the team. This was reported by Craig Mish in the

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Speaker 1: month of May so counts as part of May. Why

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Speaker 1: do we think this was a really positive development for

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that was the first thing I was gonna

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Speaker 2: ask because when I when I was writing down positives,

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Speaker 2: I was like, all right, Edward should count. It was

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Speaker 3: There it was strikeout number eight for Cabrera, a new

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Speaker 3: career high. That's a great way to make your first

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Speaker 2: I really don't think there's much else to say except

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Speaker 4: Get get it. Back to the topic that we kind

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Speaker 4: You know, they were coming off what a twelve and

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Speaker 4: Eliezer hadn't looked great. The home runs were still kind

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Speaker 4: obviously Pablo was excellent in April. But you know, regression

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Speaker 1: Well, I think an easy place to start would be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think Lewis hit it. There's really

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Speaker 1: In June, as Lewis brought up, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: The one thing that I guess you can point to

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Speaker 1: Well, now that we brought him up, I think it's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I should touch on what the thing you mentioned.

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Speaker 2: gonna be huge for Pablo. And I think what's so

434
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Speaker 2: good about this season for Pablo is he hasn't gotten injured.

435
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Speaker 2: The one two punch between Sandy and Pablo maybe the

436
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Speaker 2: best in baseball, one of the best in baseball.

437
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Speaker 4: The one thing I would note too with Pablo, which

438
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Speaker 4: I think I find more impressive, and I think right

439
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Speaker 4: now why he's slightly kind of overtaken Trevor Rodgers and

440
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Speaker 4: the hierarchy of pictures that you rely on in this

441
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Speaker 4: rotation is, you know, we talk about in game adjustments.

442
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 4: A lot hitters have to do it more often than pictures.

443
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 4: Although pitchers need to kind of adjust the way that

444
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Speaker 4: they pitch if they give a pits and at the

445
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Speaker 4: picture of the stretch, et cetera. Pablo a lot and

446
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Speaker 4: Eli you can of saest this too. A lot of

447
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Speaker 4: the damage that Pablo that was done against Pablo was

448
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 4: done early. I mean we saw it in his second

449
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Speaker 4: to last start where he gave up a couple of

450
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Speaker 4: runs to Tampa early, and he's settled in and he

451
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,440
Speaker 4: wound up giving Miami seven strong innings. He had a strikeouts,

452
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Speaker 4: he didn't walk back a guy. You know, the home run,

453
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Speaker 4: the long ball kind of bit him a little bit.

454
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Speaker 4: But you know, we see with Trevor Rodgers, Trevor Rodgers

455
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Speaker 4: has been has not done a good job this season

456
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Speaker 4: at adjusting when adversities have presented themselves. And I know

457
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 4: it's easier said than done to do that. But Pablo

458
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 4: has done a good job of when he's gotten into trouble,

459
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Speaker 4: he's either you know, mitigated the damage, giving up a

460
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Speaker 4: couple of runs here and there, but then he manages

461
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Speaker 4: to go on and settle in and you know, more

462
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 4: often than not, you know, his lines read a lot

463
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Speaker 4: better than they actually are because you know, he, like

464
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Speaker 4: I said, he makes the adjustments in games, and I

465
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Speaker 4: think that's one of the that's that's an example of

466
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Speaker 4: a pitcher who's growing and he's learning more about himself,

467
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 4: and he's also learning how to navigate big league hitters

468
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:54,200
Speaker 4: better than he has. I mean, everybody remembers the outing

469
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Speaker 4: he had against Atlanta in twenty nineteen, in that twenty

470
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Speaker 4: nine run game he got you know, he got clobber

471
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Speaker 4: but may have been twenty twenty if I'm not.

472
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Speaker 1: That twenty yeah, that was twenty twenty. Yeah, But you know, ever.

473
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Speaker 4: Since then, he's kind of just made adjustments after you know,

474
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Speaker 4: adversities that he's seen, and he's been better than ever.

475
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Speaker 4: So I think the big in game adjustments that he's

476
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Speaker 4: managed to make amid early starts where he struggled have

477
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Speaker 4: done pay dividends for him, and hopefully he continues to

478
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Speaker 4: do that should because we know baseball's is a game

479
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,639
Speaker 4: of imperfect measures. He's going to struggle again, that's just

480
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 4: you know, it happens to the best of players. So

481
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Speaker 4: if he can continue to overcome those struggles, you know,

482
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Speaker 4: not the skuy's off the limit, but you know, you

483
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Speaker 4: can kind of count on him to sustain a level

484
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Speaker 4: of great pitching for a while.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you refreshed my memory with his eleven

486
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Speaker 1: strikeout game really quick on this because he gave a

487
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Speaker 1: leadoff home run in that game to Colton Wong. I remember,

488
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Speaker 1: this puts me back in my brain space. Where was

489
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Speaker 1: him in Corbyn Burns in that pitching matchup, and like

490
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Speaker 1: immediately you're like, oh no, this is this is not

491
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Speaker 1: gonna go well, this is going to be the game

492
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Speaker 1: where the superior pitcher emerges and it's not gonna be

493
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Speaker 1: Popolo this time. And from that point forward, nearly perfect

494
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Speaker 1: it was game.

495
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Speaker 4: And Corburn Burns has a one ninety five ERA this year.

496
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Speaker 4: He's I believe he's second to Pablo and pitcher War

497
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Speaker 4: right now, if I'm not mistaken. So I think that

498
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Speaker 4: just speaks to where we are right now as to

499
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Speaker 4: who's been the best pitcher in the National League. So,

500
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Speaker 4: you know, even if he wasn't as great as he

501
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Speaker 4: was in April, you can't expect somebody to sustain that

502
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Speaker 4: over to the court. So this isn't team Tim Keefey

503
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Speaker 4: in eighteen eighty. This isn't like you know, Dutch Leonard

504
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Speaker 4: in nineteen fourteen. You know, the the era of a

505
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Speaker 4: sub one era all be in even in an oppressed

506
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Speaker 4: offensive environment, with the ball being rewound the way it

507
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Speaker 4: has been, it's not gonna happen. So like if the

508
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 4: guy when we can see guys do this regardless of era,

509
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Speaker 4: it's impressive.

510
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Speaker 1: So yeah, but I have to jump in just to

511
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Speaker 1: make people understand that we're recording this during the second

512
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Speaker 1: doubleheader game, which is tied at eleven heading into the

513
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Speaker 1: seventh inning. And yeah, we're not going to go into it,

514
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Speaker 1: but I think just we're speaking at a very unique

515
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Speaker 1: moment in the Marlin season where they're dealing with a

516
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Speaker 1: critical game and I just can't get over hell, neither

517
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 1: side will stop scoring every half endings.

518
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Speaker 2: It's the course field effect, you know. But I wanted

519
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Speaker 2: to quickly expand on what Lewis said on Pablom making

520
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: in game adjustments. He this is I think overall from

521
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Speaker 2: Baseball savant. But in the first inning, is ERI is

522
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Speaker 2: a four point five zero. Then the second one it

523
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 2: goes down lower and lower and lower to where it

524
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Speaker 2: gets to a zero point zero zero e R in

525
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Speaker 2: the third and fourth inning, and then he starts getting

526
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Speaker 2: a little banged up in the fifth, but it's still

527
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Speaker 2: two point zero eight e R. So Pablo's inning game

528
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,400
Speaker 2: adjustments have been crucial. And I think that Tampa start,

529
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Speaker 2: you spoke about it, you could really blame that that

530
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Speaker 2: inside the park Homer to a tribute down to Yeah,

531
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Speaker 2: the Kim one. It was Hazus Andrews who just didn't

532
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Speaker 2: I guess you can so he didn't make the right read.

533
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 2: I think he could have let that one just drop down.

534
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 2: Maybe a double would have been the worst case scenario

535
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 2: on that one. But yeah, I think Pablo's in game

536
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Speaker 2: adjustments have been crucial.

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Speaker 1: Well, Kevin, I wanted to touch on one guy. I

538
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 1: don't know if you're prepared to discuss Miguel Rojas, but

539
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: you've been a big critic of him early in the

540
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Speaker 1: season about how he was on his way out as

541
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Speaker 1: a useful player as a regular player due to injuries,

542
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Speaker 1: especially this month. Joey Wendall missed a lot of time

543
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: and now BA as well, like he's kind of forced

544
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Speaker 1: into the lineup every single day. He hasn't put up

545
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Speaker 1: like crazy big numbers in May, but he has returned

546
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Speaker 1: to being the guy that he was at least last

547
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: year right and offensively hitting a few home runs that

548
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: we weren't expecting also and finally playing some great defense.

549
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: It kind of culminated in that one game just recently

550
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Speaker 1: towards the end of the month, which was on what

551
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Speaker 1: should have been his mother's birthday, who passed away this

552
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Speaker 1: past offseason, and he had an amazing all round game

553
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Speaker 1: with a home run and like three hits and one

554
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Speaker 1: of the critical defensive plays at the very end. He's

555
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 1: he is a has he restored your faith in him

556
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: a little bit as a key piece of this team.

557
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 2: He's made me feel better about the shortstop situation. And

558
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 2: you know, his month of May, he ended it off

559
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 2: as hot as he could get to fifty three of five,

560
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 2: three sixty eight six seventy three. He had two home runs,

561
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: five RBIs. He walked more and struck out just a

562
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: bit more, just two more strikeouts. But I mean, if

563
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 2: Migueiro could keep it up just like that, I don't

564
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,680
Speaker 2: mind him playing at the platoon role with Joey Wendell

565
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Speaker 2: once he comes back from injury. That won't be the

566
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: case now is Wendell and b are both injured, so

567
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: we'll be seeing a lot of Migui ro and if

568
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: you could keep that up, hey, you know, we'll take it.

569
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 2: And you just hit a home run in today's game

570
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 2: against the Rockies, so in the second game. So I mean,

571
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm happy with how mi Meguro's playing at the moment.

572
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: He's definitely making your contribution, and you know, the glove

573
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 2: has helped out a lot for this team, especially in

574
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Speaker 2: that game versus Atlanta, the one where he had the

575
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Speaker 2: three hit game in which one of them was a

576
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: home run. He he made that incredible defensive play which

577
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 2: at the end of the day was very crucial in

578
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: terms of you know, the three outs because that ninth inning,

579
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Speaker 2: h Dermon's got a little bit banged up there towards

580
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 2: the end with a couple hits and I think it

581
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 2: was like a double I think a run even scored

582
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 2: or something like that. But it was a big, crucial

583
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: first out that he had to get there. So yes,

584
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Speaker 2: I'm a little bit more restored on Biggi Roo at

585
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 2: age I think thirty three or thirty four, But we'll

586
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 2: see how it goes. And once one though comes back,

587
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,360
Speaker 2: I think we'll see another platoon type of situation there.

588
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's yeah, the defense has just kind of

589
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 4: been consistently good for him for a while, though. I mean,

590
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 4: he's even in the cameo roles at first bases here

591
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: he's saved two runs by drs. He's above average at shortstop.

592
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,479
Speaker 4: Rojas's glove has been the main thing that's kept him

593
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 4: in the big leagues. I mean, if you're opsink sub

594
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: seven hundred for almost a decade, you know, then obviously

595
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 4: something has to be going right for you to continue

596
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 4: to get consistent playing time that he has. No I mean,

597
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 4: to expect him to put up his twenty twenty season

598
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 4: would be you know, bordering on illusional, considering that he

599
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 4: has an offensive profile that doesn't lend itself to those expectations.

600
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Speaker 4: That being said, again, you'd need him for the defense

601
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 4: and then for a rotation that has, you know, two

602
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: singer ballers now in Cabrera and Sandy, even though Sandy,

603
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: like you noted, Kevin is featuring the singer a little

604
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 4: bit less, but he does have that even dispersal of

605
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 4: his Pitchmkes. I think a guy like Rojas is crucial

606
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: as his Wendel because those guys, you know, they play

607
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 4: good defense, and good defense can't be overstated, especially when

608
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 4: you consider the fact that Miami has a hard time

609
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 4: scoring runs when they need to. So all the help

610
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 4: that you can get on the defensive side of the ball,

611
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 4: I think helps. And you know, if they're not hitting,

612
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 4: then Rojas is going to have to provide value somehow.

613
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 4: Speaking of that, he just singled, so you know, yeah,

614
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: as far as another offensive positive though, and you know,

615
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 4: he got hurt today, which it doesn't help, but he's

616
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: kind of remained the same consistent hitter that he was,

617
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 4: or at least, you know, not a superstar, but he

618
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 4: just hits whenever he's on the field. Garrett Cooper had

619
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Speaker 4: a pretty good offensive month of May, although he dropped

620
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Speaker 4: his on base percentage from three ninety two to three

621
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Speaker 4: sixty if you look at the overall slash, though you

622
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Speaker 4: know it didn't in for much power. Believe he only

623
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Speaker 4: hit like two home runs, but he two eighty nine,

624
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 4: three fifty four, fifty six and one hundred and three

625
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: late appearances in eight h five ohps. His career ops

626
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Speaker 4: is eight h four, So like he's literally just been

627
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Speaker 4: Garrett Cooper for the month of May, and you know,

628
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 4: obviously things that haven't gone as well on the scorecard.

629
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Speaker 4: But Cooper just no, regardless of what you say about

630
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 4: his injury history, and it's valid to, you know, voice

631
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Speaker 4: those concerns. He's just consistent in a lineup that bears

632
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: a lot of inconsistency. I mean, I don't I know,

633
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 4: he doesn't hit for the partictypical power that you want

634
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 4: of a first basement, but the ability to see pitches

635
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 4: and to get on base, and you know he you know,

636
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 4: he hits the ball relatively hard when he does make

637
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: consistent contact is encouraging. So I think, you know, despite

638
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 4: the fact that he's not slugging per se, given his position,

639
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 4: the fact that he's first base DH primarily, Cooper has

640
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 4: just kind of been himself. You know, it's you know,

641
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 4: seeing pitches and you know, doing what he normally does.

642
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 4: I think it's at least worthy of a mention.

643
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: In May, the simple fact that he was on the

644
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: field was pretty important. One hundred and three played appearances.

645
00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: I looked this up. He only had one month in

646
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: his entire career where he had more play appearances than that.

647
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: Simply being on the field has been important. He's just

648
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: an above average hitter, kind of well above average hitter,

649
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: and he's on the field and he's hitting in the

650
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: top thirty year lineup, then that's big. That's big, And

651
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: that's been the biggest knock on him is the lack

652
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: of availabilities. So for him to start twenty four games

653
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 1: at first base in DH just being there, that was

654
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: we're kind of like just scraping the bottom of the

655
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: barrel here for positives, right, we're just flatting a guy, Yeah,

656
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 1: flouting a guy.

657
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: For being on the field. That that was nice.

658
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: So fingers crossed that whatever took him out here in

659
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: one of Wednesday's games early is nothing serious and that

660
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: we keep it going. That has been the most important

661
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: thing for him, and that was something that did make

662
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: a difference in a couple of games, and it kept

663
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: them within striking distance a bunch of other times, just

664
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: because he was in the lineup and doing what Garrett

665
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: Cooper does.

666
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 4: And if you look at his savant metrics though, and

667
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: I'm looking at him right now as we speak, you

668
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 4: can also like, if you're positively forecasting ahead, you can

669
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 4: kind of assume that he may tap into a little

670
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 4: bit more power. I mean, he's in the eighty fourth

671
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 4: percentile and barrel percentage and like you noted to Kevin

672
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 4: when he was kind of talking about that the other day,

673
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 4: talking about Bay baseball is being barreled up. You know,

674
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 4: home runs generally coincide with barrels. So if a lot

675
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 4: of the if the luck tends to find him a

676
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 4: little bit more, we could expect him should he stay healthy, obviously,

677
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 4: when we don't know what the official diagnosis is right

678
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 4: now given his injury, Cooper could hit for a little

679
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 4: bit more power. I mean, he, like I said, he

680
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 4: walks a decent amount. He's he's he's striking out a

681
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: little bit more than usual. But again, like when you're

682
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 4: barreling up baseball's as consistently as he is, I think

683
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 4: you can expect him to hit a few more home

684
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 4: runs soon should he be on the field. And I

685
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 4: think that could help the team, so long as they come.

686
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 4: And you know, situations that present themselves with an opportunity

687
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 4: for Miami together take or maintain leads. So who knows.

688
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 4: I mean, you've got a three sixty one on base

689
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 4: percentage right now. You'll take that any day of the week,

690
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 4: regardless of what position he's playing.

691
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think I can't even believe I'm saying

692
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: JP's name here about JP said he's one of the

693
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: more professional hitters on the Marlins. I think that's a

694
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: fair assessment because he's been one of the best hitters,

695
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: actually one of the most consistent guys to that Tampa series,

696
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: very consistent and well, you know, as I'm actually looking

697
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: at the savantage as well, in this past two hundred

698
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 2: and fifty plate appearances, it shows a good trend of

699
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: him going up, a steady trend, and he I think

700
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 2: he walked more than everything in the month of maya

701
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: he you know, it's only two more, he walked two

702
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: more times, but it's still in them provement saying, I

703
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 2: guess you could say the guys had a bit more

704
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: patient in this month. The batting average one up. He

705
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: just besides his OBP which went down, he improved almost

706
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: every statistical part of his game. So Garrett Cooper hopefully

707
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: he stays in. And he's been batting around first, second,

708
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 2: third in the lineup, which I found interesting that they

709
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: had him leaving off, but he was hitting there as well,

710
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: So he was hitting three seventy five when he was

711
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: batting first. And I know it's only nine plate appearances,

712
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 2: but it proves that Cooper could be consistent pretty much

713
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 2: everywhere except when he's batting third and fourth for some reason,

714
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: oh in fifth. So I guess you could look at that.

715
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: I think he can spend all day like picking apart

716
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: a little bits of that, I don't I would don't

717
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: read too much into that in terms of exactly what

718
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: spot he is in the lineup, and he did have

719
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: to bed. They put him in unusual spots when Jazz

720
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: was missing time of course due his stampstock injury. That

721
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: really screwed everything up in terms of exactly how they

722
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: wanted to order things here. And so the lineup moving

723
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: forward is going to be really tricky to figure out

724
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: because with both Wendell and LBA going out, obviously a

725
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: couple aside from players overall, a couple of moments that

726
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: stood out. One of them that is pretty awkward to

727
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: celebrate is that Joe Dunan's home run and his very

728
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: first at that that was of course in May. That

729
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: was great, that led to a team win, and he

730
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: got to play a couple other more times, including once

731
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: in front of his home crowd in Miami. As we're

732
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: recording this, he just got claimed off of waivers by

733
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: the Braves, so he's not going to make any more

734
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: Marlin's memories for the foresable future. That stood out to me,

735
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: and most recently the Hayesu Sanchez almost record breaking home

736
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: run that when four hundred and ninety six feet at

737
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: Course Field. This is the guy that we've talked spoken

738
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 1: very frankly about on Fifth Stripe's Live several times about

739
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: being a potential candidate to get sent down to the minors.

740
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: He'd been overall. His May was a disaster. It was

741
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: really bad. But what I mean is just ending on

742
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: a note where he shows you why he's on this

743
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: roster in the first place, why they are so excited

744
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: about him, because his pure power is special. It is

745
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: one of the longest home runs that's been hit since

746
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: we've been measuring home runs, especially during the stack cast

747
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: era the last eight years. It was Gean Carlos Stanton like.

748
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: And then he hit another one to start June in

749
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: case people thought this was a one off with him.

750
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: For a guy that's been pretty open about how intangible

751
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 1: stuff kind of gets into his head, how his confidence

752
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: is a really big deal, and sometimes the bad decisions

753
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: he makes is a simple reflection of his state of minds.

754
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: I just thought having that one moment for him is

755
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 1: something that was worth commenting on. That that could be

756
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: a jumping off point that gets him back to being

757
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: the everyday caliber player that they thought he was entering

758
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: the season.

759
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, and how can he not talk about that? The

760
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: guy hit a four hundred ninety six foot bomb which

761
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: hit the third deck of course field. That's the first

762
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 2: time I've actually seen a baseball get hit that high,

763
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: and from a guy like Jyzeus, which today he hit

764
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: another home running. He's having himself a pretty good game

765
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: here today in the doubleheaders. So you know, you could

766
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 2: say it's Corsefield an album, which it may be most

767
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: most of it may be like a good ninety percent

768
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 2: of it may be Corsefield. But hopefully this is something

769
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: that could get not only him, but the rest of

770
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 2: the offense going for this month of June, which which

771
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: I hope it does, because right now they're in the

772
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: bottom of the seventh I'm pretty sure at the top

773
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: of the eighth and an eleven eleven game, which has

774
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 2: just been craziness. The mon got fourteen runs in the

775
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: first game, so the offense is getting a going and

776
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 2: Hazy Sanchez was a big part of that in the

777
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: start of this month. I mean, you look at that.

778
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: I think it's one of the strongest home runs ever

779
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: hit in courtsefield that it was Stanton in for coursefield,

780
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: I think he's number two with Stanton number one at

781
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 2: five oh four. So that was a very cool moment

782
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: to watch. And that was something else that went very

783
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 2: viral online as well. So Demorl's got some some exposure

784
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 2: out there in the social media world.

785
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 4: I think it's fun to note too that the you know,

786
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 4: more for like the momemic aspect of baseball, the lighter

787
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 4: side when we're not so focused on you know, you know,

788
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 4: asking the existential question of whose role is important and

789
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 4: what role will this guy play with the team in

790
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 4: their quest for winning. Williams. A. Sidillo made it back

791
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 4: to the big leagues near the tail end of the month.

792
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 4: A lot of Tortuga and you know, I think the

793
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 4: one reason beyond the fact that, you know, besides his

794
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 4: physical appearance that we marvel or can at least have

795
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 4: a smile come to our faces at the society of

796
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 4: him in the big leagues is his profile. I mean,

797
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 4: when we saw him come up with Minnesota. This guy

798
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 4: was a catcher and you know, nope, he has no

799
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 4: play discipline whatsoever. But he's also like immune to striking out.

800
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 4: He's in that like class of like the Nick Madrigals

801
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 4: and you know, the Nico Horners of the guys who

802
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 4: just have this clinical bat to ball skill that is

803
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: so seldom in today's game.

804
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Marlin's history, you have to go all the

805
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: way back to like Juan Pierre, somebody like this, even

806
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: though that was the opposite physical build. That just speaks

807
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: to how unusual this combination of skills is in this page.

808
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 4: The actual athleticism. I mean, I believe he stole his

809
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 4: first career base in Atlanta, and the fact that he

810
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 4: you know, you look at him, there's the gift on

811
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 4: the screen there, you look at him play like. You

812
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 4: look at this guy, You're like, yeah, he's nothing but

813
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 4: a catcher, if not a first basement in a blowout game,

814
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 4: but he's playing like third base and second base and actually,

815
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 4: okay when he does it. I believe he played every

816
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 4: position except shortstop in Minnesota. If I'm not mistaken, I

817
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 4: think played center field at one point there. So he's

818
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 4: got you know that Prince Fielder like sneaky athleticism where

819
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 4: you know, we never saw Prince Fielder playing across the

820
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 4: diamond the way that Astadillo did, but for him, it works.

821
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 4: And you know, obviously he hasn't stayed in the big

822
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 4: leagues as far as on a consistent basis because he's

823
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 4: you know, been in the minors and we know about

824
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: the issues he had in the Winter League when he

825
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 4: kind of got into a little fistfight there. But he

826
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 4: is at least this source of entertainment amid you know,

827
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: the cloud of questions that surround this team right now.

828
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 4: And he's played well, you know, obviously he hasn't struck

829
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: out yet. You know, he's played second, late base, he's

830
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 4: played some third base. He yeah, he hit a home

831
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 4: run today, So yeah, he's been up. He's been entertaining,

832
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 4: to say, at least with his occasional mixture of power

833
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 4: and not striking out whatsoever.

834
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: And he hit a home run today as well, So yeah,

835
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, when you really look at it,

836
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: besides entertainment and all that stuff, he could provide some

837
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 2: versatility defensively on different spots. I mean, as you mentioned,

838
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 2: he pretty much plays everywhere he's even pitched. So if

839
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,479
Speaker 2: tomorrow's you know, are down twenty nine and nine pitched,

840
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 2: he will be the guy to come in and pitch.

841
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, this is this. At the time,

842
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: you know, you look at the sign ands like wait,

843
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: why they make this signing? But now you're looking, you know,

844
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: Ba's out, Wendles out. It's looking like a pretty good

845
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: signing right now, you know, especially since he's kind of

846
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 2: been producing very well. I mean, I know it was

847
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,760
Speaker 2: like he actually had a good amount of plate appearances

848
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: in May, so he hit two thirty eight. Oh no,

849
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: this is solemn, isn't. Sorry, that's next to I wanted

850
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: to mention, but yeah, I mean, our studios has been very,

851
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: very good for the Marlands so far. Hopefully keeps it

852
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 2: going and keeps the ball play.

853
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: You said you said you had Stallings on your mind.

854
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: You might as well get him out of your system.

855
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: They's wine down here.

856
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: Any anybody else that we want to cover here that

857
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: we haven't already covered.

858
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 2: I mean the Songs is the last guy I wanted

859
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 2: to talk about, because I know, I mean he said

860
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: he besides in eighty nine and April he's been hitting.

861
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: I know, it's too, it's under two fifty. But for

862
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: a guy who many expected him to be just a

863
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: defensive catcher, he's been putting the ball in play. I

864
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: mean he's walked a lot more. He walked three times

865
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 2: in April now eight in May. He has more RBIs

866
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: and he still hasn't he hasn't ate a home run

867
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 2: in May, but he has fifteen hits compared to ten

868
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 2: in April. So he's hitting two thirty eight three three three,

869
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: two eighty six six nineteen. I know it's not the

870
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 2: biggest type of offensive power out there, but he's been

871
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: pretty good at it, and I know I spoke to him.

872
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 2: I think that video is also on Twitter, as well

873
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: as Eli's clip of his batting stands from the start

874
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 2: of the season so right now, and he's made adjustments. Obviously,

875
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: he went back to his old original batting stands and

876
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 2: that's what's been working for him. I think in Tampa

877
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 2: he had a very nice I think it was like

878
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: a double or RBI double he got there. So songs

879
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: has been a nice edition so forward for the Marlins,

880
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 2: and defensively he's been extremely good. But you look offensively

881
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 2: that first month, besides that one game in San Francisco.

882
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: He really didn't do much until now and in May

883
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: where he's kind of impressed me at least. I mean,

884
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: the guy's getting hits where he has to. He's getting

885
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 2: on base, which is what the team needs at the moment.

886
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 2: He needed more contact guys besides sluggers, is what I've

887
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 2: been saying. You know, that John Birdy type of guy

888
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: who could get you on base and start producing some offense.

889
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 2: Jake Sallings is able to do that in the month

890
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: of May, and let's hope he gets done in July

891
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 2: as well.

892
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,799
Speaker 4: I have like two more quick ads the last one

893
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 4: and you know, despite the fact that the results weren't

894
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 4: necessarily great, I think at least deserves a mention that

895
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 4: the Marlins got Dylan Floro back. You know, we saw

896
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 4: those first two or three outings. He looked shaky, but

897
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 4: then he put together. I believe it was a four

898
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 4: or five out in stretch where he didn't allow any runs. Obviously,

899
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: he's not striking guys out of live He only has

900
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 4: that one strikeout thus far through seven and a third innings,

901
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 4: which you know, he doesn't have the most overpowering stuff,

902
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 4: but he also doesn't you know, He's not a soft

903
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 4: tosser by any means. I guess you could maybe say

904
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 4: he is in this era, but you know, he's kind

905
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 4: of coming off an injury. He's settling back in and

906
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 4: I think, you know, the early returns weren't great, but

907
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 4: the fact that he's at least back and pitching. You know,

908
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 4: he was the closer pretty much for the last two

909
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 4: months of the season, and he did relatively well in

910
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 4: that role. I think if Miami starts to play better,

911
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 4: and you know, putting up twenty five runs today is encouraging.

912
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 4: Although it's Colorado and we know that there's a hangover

913
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: effect when players, even who play there on a consistent basis,

914
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 4: tend to go elsewhere. You know, could be encouraging early on.

915
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 4: But the fact that he's back and you know, we

916
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 4: know what he did last on news closer encouraging at

917
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 4: least to stay the least and then Eli. You know,

918
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 4: I make note of this a lot when games go final.

919
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 4: I love the Pythagorea and win loss record relative to

920
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 4: run differential and the fact that the Marlins that I've

921
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 4: said several times this season, they do not hit with

922
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 4: runners in scoring position. I believe entering play today, they

923
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: had a three h nine collective team on base percentage

924
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 4: with men on it and only hit like four home

925
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 4: runs all season with runners in scoring position. You know,

926
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 4: they entered play today with a Pythagora and win lost

927
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 4: record of twenty three and twenty three. They had a

928
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 4: plus four run differential at the start of play today. Now,

929
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,919
Speaker 4: obviously today they have twenty wins, but they have twenty

930
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 4: seven losses and their run differential I believe after this

931
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: game is plus seventeen, and it currently SIT's like that

932
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 4: right now because they're currently tied. But when you look

933
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 4: at I guess what could be encouraging, because you know,

934
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 4: they don't have the perfect team on the field. Right now,

935
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 4: they are about middle of the pack, despite the fact

936
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 4: that they continued to lose on a consistent basis. In May,

937
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 4: they were an above average offensive team by way to

938
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,879
Speaker 4: run created plus from a way to run created plugs

939
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 4: perspective one oh two. Yet they were still sixteenth. They

940
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 4: were fifteenth in isolated power one fifty seven. They were

941
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 4: sixteenth in home runs hit thirty one. They were tied

942
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 4: with Seattle, so technically they were fifteenth. They were sixteenth

943
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 4: in offensive war from a Fangrass perspective. So they've been

944
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 4: about a middle of the pack team who again are

945
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 4: producing in situations that are not conducive to them winning

946
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 4: because they are one playing so many close games. Two

947
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 4: they aren't scoring when they need to be scoring. And

948
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 4: you know, it leads me to believe that at least

949
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 4: some better luck is expected. And we saw this early

950
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 4: last year. They were they had a plus I believe

951
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 4: at one point they had a plus fifty run differential,

952
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 4: and yet they were consistently underperforming. And that, you know,

953
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 4: we saw the ladder present itself where the win loss

954
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 4: record continue to go down and they would just they

955
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: give them more runs and they would lose. But I

956
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 4: think obviously, you know, if you play you know, four

957
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 4: sub five hundred baseball, there's room for improvement. And amid

958
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 4: those metrics, I think that you know, we can at

959
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 4: least expect them to play better baseball, especially when you

960
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 4: consider the division that they're in, you know, Atlanta not

961
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 4: playing well, the Nationals clearly in a rebuild, you know,

962
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 4: I mean, the Mets are great right now, they have

963
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 4: an eleven game lead in that division, but who knows,

964
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 4: you know, you know, we could say it's the Mets.

965
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 4: And then it's also the fact that they're pitching without

966
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 4: you know, de Gram and Scherzer for extended periods of time,

967
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 4: and you know, how long can you really expect that

968
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: buckshow Walter honeymoon phase to really last for But I

969
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 4: think the Marlins have you know, like I said, they've

970
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 4: been unlucky and we've seen that manifest itself with several times.

971
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 4: If you know, their middle of the pack numbers indicate anything,

972
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 4: you know, from the pythagoraan win loss record to where

973
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 4: they finished from an offensive perspective in May, you can

974
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 4: expect that there's they should at least be somewhat better

975
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: in June. And I think cope is probably the biggest

976
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 4: thing that you can draw from May amid the poor

977
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 4: performance and that you know, things could have been They

978
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 4: were bad, but they could have been worse and they

979
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 4: actually should have been better.

980
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know, you look this month of June,

981
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: it's it's actually probably one of the most important months

982
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 2: of the season. You're playing the Mets, you're playing the

983
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: first you're playing Washington, and you know, let's look at

984
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,919
Speaker 2: little further. You look at July, you're playing the Reds,

985
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: You're playing the Pirates. I know these teams technically, I

986
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 2: know the Pirates have a better record than the Marlins. Yeah,

987
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: but by one game. If they win today, they'll have

988
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 2: the same record. But I mean, those are games you

989
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: should be able to win, and that should be more

990
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 2: than enough to at least put you at five hundred,

991
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 2: right when you're at the trade deadline, and that's when

992
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: you start to think what you're gonna do. But you know,

993
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 2: you look at the division. Atlanta's been underperforming, Philadelphia's been underperforming.

994
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 2: The Mets have been the Mets. But Philadelphia just got

995
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: to a plus one run differential. Miami's atty plus seventeen

996
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,320
Speaker 2: and the Mets are at plus seventy seven. And you

997
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: look at the negative run differentials, Washington is a negative

998
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: seventy six and Atlanta has a negative ten. So I mean,

999
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 2: Miami's scoring runs, as you mentioned, but it's not in

1000
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: the right spots, so it's pretty much in garbage time

1001
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: like the still Air home run, Daddy Sail home run,

1002
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: and I think that was in San Diego as well.

1003
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: But I mean, I mean, hopefully they get a going

1004
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: in June. This is definitely a team I could see

1005
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 2: them getting a going here. You have a series in

1006
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Then you're going against Washington that should be

1007
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: hopefully a game that all seriously you could sweep, and

1008
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: that's three more wins. So then you have to go

1009
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 2: to Houston so that it doesn't get much easier than that.

1010
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 2: You usually play fairly well against Philadelphia. They should be

1011
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: able to deal with that. So the month of June

1012
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: looks promising. Let's hope they could get it going. That's

1013
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: how I think that's the way we keep the positive here.

1014
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great way to end it off unequivocally positive,

1015
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: where all their positive everything is still ahead of them.

1016
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: If they can seize it, they're gonna have to do

1017
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: it slightly differently. They're gonna do it. Lozardo seems it's

1018
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: gonna be out for a while still. So Edward Cabrera

1019
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: is he gonna be all though? Hold on that rotation spot.

1020
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: Is Astidal more than just a meme and a gift star?

1021
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: Is he an actual productive player? Because he's gonna have

1022
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: to play a lot. There's gonna be relying on him

1023
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: as well. They're gonna have to eventually figure out this

1024
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: closer situation. We didn't even get into that, But that's

1025
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 1: going to be one of the prevailing storylines moving forward

1026
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: if they are going to be consistently leading in these

1027
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: games setting into the later endings, who like closes down

1028
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: those wins? Your guess is as good as mine, and

1029
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,919
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1030
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,920
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1032
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1033
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,799
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1034
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1036
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1037
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1039
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1040
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,880
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1041
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1042
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1043
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