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Speaker 2: To YouTube absolutely looking forward to it. Middle of the week,

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Speaker 2: because we wouldn't be able to do this fine radio

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Speaker 2: program without him. Rob g is our producer, Alex is

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Speaker 2: our engineer. And look who's doing the updates? Brie, Brie,

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Speaker 2: how are you?

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Speaker 8: I'm good?

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Speaker 9: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I try not to talk to update people because usually

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Speaker 2: So, Brie, I just wanted to say, hello, this is

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Speaker 5: Hear me talk to you. He's telling the truth on

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Speaker 2: Once you crossed me, Brie, it's over.

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Speaker 9: I love you.

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Speaker 2: Though I thought we're good, we're good. I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: Is there a list at home? Like come home the

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Speaker 1: cross me? Rob list check this personally? Is there a list?

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Speaker 2: Were We're glad to have you here on the Odd Couple?

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Speaker 2: And of course Elijah, Elijah.

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Speaker 5: He's right there.

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Speaker 2: I was social media group who's been doing like what

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, but I would be mad if

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Speaker 2: The people who are watching on YouTube, and those people

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Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say, Alex, I sent you a message today.

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Speaker 2: get it. And your kids hate me. Why my family

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Speaker 5: I didn't get the memo.

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Speaker 2: In fact, But Alex, you know I'm passionate, and I

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Speaker 2: Thank you. It made it, just made my day. I

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Speaker 1: Are really yelling, yelling yesterday. In fact, I'm disappointed in

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Speaker 2: No, Yesterday was fine.

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Speaker 5: I thought you were.

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Speaker 1: Gonna bring it some more on Monday. I was disappointed. No,

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Speaker 2: I showed it, and it was you made it show

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Speaker 1: You didn't fooling like you act like you were about

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Speaker 2: To bring it. How about now, Rob G. Dan Campbell

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Speaker 2: affects your You might know by me as Dan gamble.

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Speaker 2: He lost that he's lost big games for the Lions

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Speaker 2: in which they should have been able to advance to

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Speaker 10: Yeah, it sounds like he is well aware of the

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Speaker 10: nineteen ninety That's unbelievable. Really, teams that start owing to

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Speaker 10: called this game a must win.

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Speaker 2: Take a listen. Ben's my friend.

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Speaker 11: He's always going to be my friend. You know, nothing

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Speaker 11: about that's going to change. You know, we're going in

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Speaker 11: You know we have to.

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Speaker 2: We have to. Wow, He's saying that they have to.

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Speaker 2: Week two against the Bears is a must win, and

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Speaker 2: I kind of you know it sounds crazy, but Campbell

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Speaker 2: think he'll be exposed as we go forward with this

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Speaker 2: season that the reason he had the success that he's

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Speaker 2: had two really good coordinators who wind up getting head

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Speaker 2: coaching jobs because of what they did. Dan Campbell's not

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Speaker 2: the offensive guy, defensive guy. He's not either of those guys.

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Speaker 2: He's a raw ra guy. And the problem is when

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Speaker 2: I run through a wall for Dan Campbell. That's easy

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Speaker 2: to say when you're winning and you're undefeated on the

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Speaker 2: as soon as you start to get pushed around like

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Speaker 2: things tighten up. I am convinced that Ben Johnson will

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Speaker 2: pull off the upset beat the Lions in Week two.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen the schedule, Kelvin, Have you seen the

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Speaker 2: schedule and I know you talked about it yesterday. I'm

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Speaker 2: a pair of Jordans, that the Lions won't make the playoffs. Okay, done,

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Speaker 2: all right, we got that mark that down. I'm ready

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Speaker 2: they better win against Chicago because if they don't, there's

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Speaker 2: probably only one game out of the first six that

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Speaker 2: three tough games on the road. You gotta win Bears

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Speaker 2: Ben Johnson knows that team left and right and knows

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Speaker 2: an advantage in mapping out this game against the Lions,

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Speaker 2: and I believe the Bears will pull the upset, send

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Speaker 2: the Lions to zero and two, and Dan Gamble will

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Speaker 2: be that it wasn't him, it was Ben Johnson and

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Speaker 1: I don't agree with that absolutely. Ben Johnson played a

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Speaker 1: massive prole. He's phenomenal as an offensive coordinator, and Aaron

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Speaker 1: Glenn was a really good defensive coordinator. Where I disagree

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Speaker 1: with you is a couple of things. One, Dan Campbell,

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Speaker 1: you're acting like he came right into a winning situation.

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Speaker 5: He went.

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Speaker 1: You spent time in Detroit, a putrick culture, a team,

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Speaker 1: a culture, an organization that ain't won jack, that wasn't

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Speaker 2: It wasn't headed in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't like he came into winning and then

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Speaker 1: he just had this sustainability.

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Speaker 5: What he came into was the.

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Speaker 1: First year they went three and thirteen, but they did

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Speaker 1: not fold the next year nine and eight.

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Speaker 2: And remember they started off like one in five or

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Speaker 2: six or something. I don't want to stop you. Ben

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Speaker 2: Johnson was the offensive coordinators first year.

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Speaker 5: I don't know how fun it goes back.

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Speaker 2: No no, he was not good, dude.

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Speaker 5: That was clearly not the point.

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Speaker 1: The point they ain't go to three to thirteen, they

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Speaker 1: go to nine and eight, they go to twelve and five,

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Speaker 1: and then obviously fifteen to two.

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Speaker 5: And the reason why they got better.

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Speaker 1: You can great you know, hony teams that have great

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Speaker 11: All right?

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Speaker 1: Rob and I talking about Dan Campbell who said it's

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Speaker 2: Who we got him? And Alex I wanted a little passion.

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Speaker 2: What happened to that?

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Speaker 7: Pass?

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Speaker 2: All right, let's go. Uh, let's see Casey in Oregon.

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Speaker 12: I'm sorry, Hey guys, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's it's huge and I think people

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of people, more people than you

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Speaker 2: Lou in Allentown on pennsyl Tucky. You're on the couple

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Speaker 2: How are you very good?

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Speaker 1: I don't like Big Loue. Big lou got people out

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 11: I'm good?

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Speaker 1: He gonna try to block you when when the line's winning,

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Speaker 12: Rob, Thank you. It's just it's about something that I

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Speaker 11: We're gonna get Chris Long. We have Zach Ertz next week.

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Speaker 12: We have Tony Fenw coming up to talk about the

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Speaker 2: So it's not just a football podcast, gonna be year

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Speaker 2: round and all kinds of sports and people.

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Speaker 12: Right, all exactly right, exactly right.

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Speaker 5: Congrats bro, very good.

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Speaker 11: Hey you all right.

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Speaker 2: I do want to talk about the Lions. Of course,

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Speaker 2: losing the two cords. They got their butts kicked in

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Speaker 2: Green Bay. They really did. It didn't look good. I

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Speaker 2: don't have them making the playoffs. Try. I just want

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Speaker 2: you to know, where are you on the Lions? And

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Speaker 2: they got a really tough schedule and no coordinators or

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Speaker 2: new coordinators I should say both in the building. I

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Speaker 2: didn't like the idea that they didn't go out and

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Speaker 2: find the best available and just you know, promoted with

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Speaker 2: Then where are you on the Lions and their expectations?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, listen, I think the lines the last couple of

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Speaker 12: years do in a great job with something called expectations,

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Speaker 12: as you alluded to, you know, but now they've got.

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Speaker 11: To deal with erosion.

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Speaker 12: And that's what happens when you make the playoffs multiple

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Speaker 12: years in a row. People come take your players, and

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Speaker 12: they come take your coaches and and you know, you

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Speaker 12: can go look at the numbers. Jared goff as a

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Speaker 12: starting quarterback without Sean McVeigh and without Ben Johnson not good.

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Speaker 12: So I'm not saying Jared's not a good player. I'm

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Speaker 12: saying they've got to find a rhythm with him. It's

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Speaker 12: a real telling test this week is the Bears come

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Speaker 12: to town after that debacle Monday night, and the debacle

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Speaker 12: for the Lions have won ten straight games following a loss.

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Speaker 12: That's the longest active streak in the NFL. So somehow

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Speaker 12: Chicago goes in there and finds a way as Ben

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Speaker 12: Johnson comes into his old place to steal a win.

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Speaker 12: That's hugely problematic for Detroit. Listen, I think Detroit can

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Speaker 12: still make the playoffs, but I think a ten or

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Speaker 12: eleven win season is about the max for them this year.

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Speaker 1: That's fair, and I can understand that you lose coordinators obviously,

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Speaker 1: some players and offensive line too.

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Speaker 5: That's another whole thing. Yes, fair, Yeah, that's finally what.

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Speaker 12: You just think it was huge. You know, their offensive

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Speaker 12: line last year was together basically the entire season, and

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Speaker 12: they've lost basically through injury or retirement, three fs retirement,

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Speaker 12: three fits to that offensive line. That's going to be

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Speaker 12: a huge thing for them. To work with throughout the season.

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Speaker 5: I agree, that's one of the things they got to fix.

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Speaker 11: More.

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Speaker 1: That makes me worry, to be honest with you, even

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Speaker 1: more so the coordinators, because if they can't run the ball,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be difficult. Let's go to this, let's stay,

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Speaker 1: let's stay in this game, this matchup. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: week one. We see Caleb Williams, when we see obviously

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Speaker 1: Ben Johnson bold debuting right the debuting with my new

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Speaker 1: head coach and me debuting as a coach with my

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Speaker 1: star quarterback or should maybe potentially star quarterback, would you

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Speaker 1: make of week one for them?

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Speaker 5: Kind of a tail that you have?

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Speaker 12: Yeah, listen, there's no way to slice it.

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Speaker 11: It's not great for Caleb.

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Speaker 12: You know, they came out of that first drive. They

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Speaker 12: looked decisive, He looked quicker and smart, and everything was great.

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Speaker 12: And until they scored a late touchdown after that first

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Speaker 12: touchdound I have they scored three points? You know, they

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Speaker 12: had to pick six as part of their point total.

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Speaker 12: They it didn't look much different. And then to see

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Speaker 12: JJ McCarthy come out and do something that no one

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Speaker 12: else has ever done, score three touchdowns or lead three

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Speaker 12: touchdown drives in his debut in the fourth quarter is remarkable,

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Speaker 12: especially after throwing a pick six where you thought, Okay,

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Speaker 12: here's the young kid. He just made a terrible mistake.

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Speaker 12: He's going to go into that show.

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Speaker 11: He didn't.

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Speaker 12: This is a really this is problematic for Chicago. It's problematic.

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Speaker 11: No look. Week one is always an anomaly.

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Speaker 12: I always say about the first few weeks of the season.

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Speaker 12: The teams that suck don't know they suck yet, right

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Speaker 12: everyone thinks they're good and you're gonna get everybody's best shot.

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Speaker 12: But this is problematic for the Bears. To see Caleb

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Speaker 12: not capitalized past that opening drive, honestly, and then to

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Speaker 12: see a rookie in JJ McCarthy shake off a really

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Speaker 12: horrible throw that picks six for the former Key's practice

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Speaker 12: squad player and then do what he did in the

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Speaker 12: fourth quarter. That's that's not a good look for Chicago

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Speaker 12: right now, and I think Bears fans should be concerned.

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Speaker 2: How about Aaron Glenn, You know, blaming the fumble by

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Speaker 2: the kickoff player is the reason that they lost. And

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Speaker 2: we're going to talk about this later in the show,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I get it. You want to be the

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Speaker 2: new coach and send out a signal you're gonna be

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Speaker 2: letting go of players every time somebody makes a mistake

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Speaker 2: or throws a pick or or fumbles the ball. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I kind of see what you want to do, but

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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure. Uh that's the way you do it,

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Speaker 2: or to make people feel comfortable at all or not.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, but let's let's be honest.

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Speaker 12: If they thought he was really good, they would have

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Speaker 12: kept him.

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Speaker 11: I mean, Jimmy Johnson was the best of this.

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Speaker 12: Like he said, I'll treat everybody fairly, but I won't

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Speaker 12: treat anybody the same.

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Speaker 11: When he was the head coach, he.

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Speaker 12: Cut players for sleeping in the sleep, falling sleep in meetings,

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Speaker 12: he cut people for fumbling. He didn't cut any of

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Speaker 12: the stars for doing any of that, like you know

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Speaker 12: what I mean. Like they felt he was expendable anyway.

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Speaker 12: So I think that Aaron made that decision to send

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Speaker 12: a message.

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Speaker 2: So what message? What message would that be to me?

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Speaker 12: Okay, that's that's great, that's trade.

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Speaker 2: That's that's where I think it's hollow because it ain't

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Speaker 2: a star player or somebody who's really good. If you're

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Speaker 2: just gonna you're gonna cut a guy who already had

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Speaker 2: nine fumbles coming into when you put them on your team,

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Speaker 2: did you really do anything? That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 12: You're not wrong there, but but but that's the sliding

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Speaker 12: scale of justice in the NFL. Right, the better you are,

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Speaker 12: the more I get people will give you. So, yeah,

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Speaker 12: I'm not what you're saying, is that actually really smart?

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Speaker 12: But I think that Aaron felt like.

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Speaker 11: He needed to send the message.

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Speaker 12: Whether or not it is received is irrelevant because these players,

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Speaker 12: you're right, well, probably It's like it's like when Mike

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Speaker 12: McDaniel last year started sending the clock back twenty four

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Speaker 12: minutes for meetings because they hadn't won a playoff game

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Speaker 12: at twenty four seeds. Do you think you think any

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Speaker 12: of those players gave a crap about that? What the

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Speaker 12: hell are you talking about? So, but that's that's a

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Speaker 12: very Bill Parcells move. It is a Bill Parcells move,

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Speaker 12: and obviously Aaron is very very much a mentor of

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Speaker 12: Bill Parcells and someone that he feels like has shaped

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Speaker 12: his career. It doesn't it It doesn't matter until it matters,

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Speaker 12: right and if if it's if they find a way

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Speaker 12: to turn things around, right, if they don't then it

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Speaker 12: looks stupid.

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Speaker 11: It's I mean, it's all the fact every of the

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Speaker 11: NFL is based on results. Nothing else matters. Win or

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Speaker 11: did you not win.

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Speaker 2: I've said it a million times on this show. Sports

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Speaker 2: has a short menu tray. It's wins and losses. There's

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Speaker 2: nothing else on the menu.

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Speaker 12: I do think when everyone talks about culture, right, oh

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Speaker 12: he's building a culture, they fire him. They say, well,

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Speaker 12: he didn't win enough, so the culture, I mean, the

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Speaker 12: culture only matters.

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Speaker 11: If you win.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's what I just said.

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Speaker 11: The only thing, it's the only thing that matters.

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Speaker 2: That culture thing is the biggest con job I've ever seen,

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Speaker 2: because the only when you're winning. Oh yeah he been

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell showed up and built the culture. If Delions

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Speaker 2: don't make the playoffs this year, people will start to say, oh,

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Speaker 2: I don't think Dan Campbell's the guy. He lost the team.

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Speaker 12: Robb, You're one hundred percent right. At the end of

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Speaker 12: the day, players will put up.

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Speaker 11: With anything as long as they're winning.

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Speaker 12: And when they don't win, the thing, the thing that

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Speaker 12: you thought was cute when you're winning, freaking drives you

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Speaker 12: crazy when you're losing.

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Speaker 5: I don't disagree with that.

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Speaker 1: But I do absolutely believe creating an identity is huge

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Speaker 1: in sports.

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Speaker 12: Knowing what you hate that No, that's fair, that's fair,

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Speaker 12: Like you want to have.

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Speaker 11: This is what we do, this is who we are.

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Speaker 12: But the best teams, the best teams, when it's all

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Speaker 12: said and done, don't say, when everything's on the line, well,

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Speaker 12: this is what we do. The best teams say whatever

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Speaker 12: we have to do to win, even it's completely the

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Speaker 12: opposite of everything. Well, we're about this, But in this situation,

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Speaker 12: maybe you need the other thing.

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Speaker 11: And I think that's the most important thing.

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Speaker 2: Trey. I want to just one last thing. I want

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Speaker 2: to jump in real quick. I've just talked about John

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Speaker 2: Hollball should be fired by the Ravens, and I'm dead serious.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's been he's been there a while, and

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Speaker 2: every year they're disappointing to me, or they give up

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Speaker 2: seventeen double digit leads and I get it.

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Speaker 11: Nineteen ninety one, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean it's an incredible and I'm not they won a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, I get it, or whatever that was a

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Speaker 2: long time ago, twenty twelve, whatever it was. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: like I get it. But one day you're going to

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Speaker 2: wake up it's like the Mike McCarthy's he's turned into

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Speaker 2: uh no, he's turned into to Doc Rivers, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, where you won a championship and now

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Speaker 2: every year you go home disappointed. And this is what

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Speaker 2: the wave is doing to feel like.

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Speaker 11: To me, you're not wrong and this is the weird thing.

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Speaker 12: And we can apply this to Mike Tomlin as well,

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Speaker 12: if we're being honest with us.

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Speaker 2: I've said it a mine times about him. Enough with

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Speaker 2: the five.

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Speaker 11: Hundred Yeah, Bill Cower.

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Speaker 12: Bill Cower said it the best. He said, you know,

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Speaker 12: after ten years, I think your message wears out on

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Speaker 12: your team. And I think that if Mike Tomlin and

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Speaker 12: John Harbor are fired, they'll get jobs tomorrow. That doesn't

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Speaker 12: mean they're not good coaches, but sometimes you've been there

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Speaker 12: too long. And to your point about John, it's been

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Speaker 12: since Super Bowl forty seven. They haven't been able to

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Speaker 12: beat the Chiefs. They haven't been able to beat all

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Speaker 12: these teams in the playoffs. Lamar Jackson, as great as

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Speaker 12: he is as a starting quarterback, he has three playoff wins.

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Speaker 12: To put that in perspective, that's the same number of Super.

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Speaker 11: Bowl wins as Patrick Mahomes has.

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Speaker 12: Okay, and he's got seventeen. That's the second most in

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Speaker 12: NFL history. And I'm not a winsor quarterbacksat guy, but

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Speaker 12: the NFL keeps this right.

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Speaker 11: So that's why I use it.

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Speaker 12: That's why I use it as a reference point. John

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Speaker 12: Harville and Mike Tomlin are great coaches. I believe that,

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Speaker 12: but it might be time for both of them to

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Speaker 12: try this somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: Hey, real quick, before we let you go, Trey, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to throw it two different ways. You got the Raiders, Steelers,

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Speaker 1: and the coach they all get wins, and then you

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Speaker 1: got the Bengals, the Giants and Pats all lost, which

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Speaker 1: you can do however you want, Which are real from

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Speaker 1: those wins or what's you look at a team with

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Speaker 1: those losses and say they're better than that?

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Speaker 12: I think that I'm not sold on the Bengals. I mean,

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Speaker 12: I think the Bengals still have major concerns. I mean,

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Speaker 12: it was a rookie kicker that missed an extra point

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Speaker 12: the field goal in a one point game, right, otherwise

705
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Speaker 12: we'll be talking about the Bengals falling behind in September again.

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Speaker 12: I don't like the way that team is built. I

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Speaker 12: have concerns there. I think Indianapolis is real. There's a

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Speaker 12: lot of good players on that team. They just need

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Speaker 12: a competent quarterback. And Daniel Joes isn't great, but he's competent.

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Speaker 12: And I do believe that Aaron Rodgers has something to

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Speaker 12: prove this year. It's one thing to prove it against

712
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Speaker 12: the Jets where he had a huge chip.

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Speaker 11: On his shoulder, but every went wrong the other year.

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Speaker 12: I need to see this more from Aaron Rodgers going forward.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you sent to me that we were talking about

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Speaker 5: that yesterday. That's where I am as well.

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Speaker 11: Trey.

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Speaker 2: Try appreciate you as always, Trey Wingo.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Trey.

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Speaker 11: You got it guys anytime.

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Speaker 5: No doubt.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Shekel City. I'm Parker's day Dicks against the Spread?

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Speaker 2: Did I knew that? Did I knew that? Did I

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Speaker 2: knew that?

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Speaker 12: Did?

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Speaker 2: Did I knew that?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: You sound like that?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 2: That is you, Alex? I think you did something with

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Speaker 2: the like a synthesizer. Why you don't do that when

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Speaker 2: we had once Julia White didn't hear no because I

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Speaker 2: because you hear did I knew that he wouldn't want

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Speaker 2: to hear it. I did it out of respect that

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Speaker 2: he was super cool, He's a great guy. We didn't

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Speaker 2: need to do that, all right. I listened to Dan

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Speaker 2: Campbell's picks and it was a bad night. Oh and

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Speaker 2: three listen down to four day.

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Speaker 1: Campbell citing this offense right now, Detroy, like I had

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with nothing? Yeah, bad night, oh and

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Speaker 1: three on the season. No, we're not resetting. I was

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Speaker 1: about to say, what's the four and eight? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're about to reset two more and threes? You big resetting.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be like that kid that that recess Nintendo

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Speaker 1: back in the day.

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Speaker 2: Just pull the plug, you know, pulling out many thanks.

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Speaker 2: Tiger all right, Mets plus one and a half runs.

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Speaker 2: I figure, like they have to win, they need one desperately. Uh,

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Speaker 2: they are losing losing right now, Yes, but it's still

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Speaker 2: all just forty.

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Speaker 5: Maybe he'll do something.

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Speaker 2: Yankees minus one and a half runs against the Tigers,

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Speaker 2: no score in that game. These are all but posted

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Speaker 2: very early. And I got the Padres, who lost last

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Speaker 2: night to Cincinnati at home. I think that they needed

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Speaker 2: to win. All three of these are like they gotta

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Speaker 2: get a win. They all need to win. So again,

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Speaker 2: Padres minus one and a half. I got the Yankees

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Speaker 2: minus one and a half and the Mets plus one

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Speaker 2: and a half in Philadelphia as the best bet. And uh,

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Speaker 2: Elijah had this posted very early. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: somebody text him around seven something in the morning when

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Speaker 2: he was having breakfast with his kids. Somebody, right, you know, Okay, Elijah,

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Speaker 2: that's the life I'm living.

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Speaker 5: I feel man, Elijah. I feel bad for you.

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Speaker 11: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry you minding your business. You're like, hey, how

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Speaker 2: was school today?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Daddy was great? I need it now. The Lions lost?

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Speaker 2: Put it up now.

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Speaker 11: Right now?

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm saying, Rob, I'm just trying to have dinner.

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Speaker 2: Come on, Elijah, the waiting on me. Elijah's the best

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Speaker 2: when it comes to the stuff. But anyway, I'm not

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Speaker 2: telling you who to bet on. I'm telling you I

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Speaker 2: know who you bet known you ain't getting them no money.

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Speaker 2: Right now, It's time now for Play of the day.

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Speaker 2: Berger swings and clocks. This one a deep shitter. Perkin's

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Speaker 2: going back, He's at the wall. It is history. Take

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Speaker 2: Berger with it too, Home.

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Speaker 5: Run game all right?

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Adam Silver, but essentially Adam Silver

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Speaker 1: comes out finally hear from him about the Steve Baumer

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Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard situation and basically says, we're gonna investigate, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna get an outside source to investigate this, and that

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Speaker 1: like me speaking of as Adam Silvery says, like me,

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Speaker 1: I would want to be treated with the you know,

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Speaker 1: fairness and get the proper you know, due process. What

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Speaker 1: I heard was, please, please, please don't let there be

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Speaker 1: a smoking gun, because I don't think the NBA really

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Speaker 1: wants to deal with this. I don't think the NBA

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Speaker 1: wants to deal with the gambling, which is why the

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Speaker 1: day Terry Rosier's the day Elie Beasley information comes out,

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Speaker 1: to day they exonerate Terry Rozier, They've exonerated Beasley. And

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Speaker 1: I think the NBA is trying to do away with scandals,

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Speaker 1: and I think they are praying and hoping that Kawhi

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Speaker 1: obviously comes out with him and the raptors.

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Speaker 14: He wanted to get in on the maype leaves. You

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Speaker 14: want dollars, just negotiate. What if it's just negotiations. You

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Speaker 14: ask for the world negotiations. I don't think there's anything

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Speaker 14: about about him asking for the maple leaves. That's a

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Speaker 14: that's a crime.

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Speaker 5: I want, I want to crime now what you mentioned

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Speaker 5: in the maple leafs?

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Speaker 2: So why yeah, why not? They might give me a

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Speaker 2: couple of shares that The bottom line remains that they

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Speaker 2: You're right, they don't want anything. If they if they

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Speaker 2: could get away without this being a major ordeal, they will.

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Speaker 2: And the burden of proof is still on the NBA

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Speaker 2: that they know without question that Steve Balmer knew about

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Speaker 2: the company. And remember he lost fifty million dollars on this,

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Speaker 2: so that's his que. And I heard Mark Cuban who

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Speaker 2: made a really good argument if Steve Balmer had his

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Speaker 2: fingerprints all over this, he could have made sure this

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Speaker 2: company didn't go bankrupt and then the records would not

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Speaker 2: be public, like there's a way to hide that stuff.

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Speaker 1: He didn't, and he didn't do that. He took a

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Speaker 1: fifty million dollar bath. Think too similar to like sign

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Speaker 1: stealing or doing thing. I think a lot of teams

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Speaker 1: are doing this in some other ways, finding ways to

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Speaker 1: pay guys a little extra, finding little corporations or a

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Speaker 1: little things to give them extra five mil tike of

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Speaker 1: everybody can't get twenty eight. They're not kawhi, but you

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Speaker 1: know little ways to circumvent the salary cap. So I

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Speaker 1: absolutely believe they're trying to get this to go away,

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Speaker 1: because then you might have to look at all thirty

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Speaker 1: teams and you don't want that smoke for sure. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see how it works out. Speaking of the NBA,

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Speaker 1: we gotta talk about something too,