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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian, Oh God, you're your hosts, John Anick and

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Speaker 3: Ah, it is great to be back with you as always. Monday,

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Speaker 3: November twenty six, twenty eighteen, at least that is the

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Speaker 3: day here in the States. This is episode one eighty

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Speaker 3: one of the Anak and Florian podcasts.

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Speaker 4: I hope everybody had a good Thanksgiving weekend.

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't say everybody, but for all of you, for

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Speaker 3: whom that applies. That does apply to Ken Flok And

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Speaker 3: I know you stayed out West. How you feeling.

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Speaker 5: I'm feeling good?

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Speaker 6: I ate like such crap, I ate way too much,

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Speaker 6: ridiculous amount of sugar in my body.

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Speaker 5: I'm still trying to get it out.

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Speaker 6: I got some dieting to do, dude, serious exercising and

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Speaker 6: dieting ahead.

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 4: I hear Brazilian jiu jitsu is a pretty good workout.

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Speaker 3: That may rocky djj if you want to try to

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Speaker 3: sweat some of that shit out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I didn't eat as much as I normally

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Speaker 3: do Thanksgiving Day, but that Friday, bro, I mean I

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Speaker 3: put on a clinic, right, I mean, I think we

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Speaker 3: might we might have double chin this week if we

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Speaker 3: didn't last week. So so my brother in law we

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Speaker 3: went to Connecticut was absolutely freezing. I woke up to

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Speaker 3: go to dunkin Donuts on Friday morning to begin the

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Speaker 3: food coma early and it was nine degrees I think,

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Speaker 3: you know, so the Florida blood didn't hold up too

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Speaker 3: well flying with three kids. Absolutely no picnic would not

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Speaker 3: recommend it. Already getting ahead of it with my wife

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Speaker 3: that next year, you know, Daddy, stay in home. We

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Speaker 3: got to figure something out, man, you know, And it

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Speaker 3: wasn't even too bad for us. The thing is just

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Speaker 3: you're always just one moment away from all hell breaking loose,

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Speaker 3: and it's a very uneasy feeling. You know, you fly

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Speaker 3: baby and she's inconsolable, and you know, everybody's looking at

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Speaker 3: the parents.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: The old guy in front of my wife was like,

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Speaker 3: I give up. He says, before the flight, my kid

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Speaker 3: You know, I want to say, listen, you ever had

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Speaker 4: So, so I was in Connecticut.

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Speaker 3: So my brother in law has this projector projection screen TV.

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Speaker 3: so a great way to watch football. So I want

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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty inch TV. I take a picture. I

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Speaker 3: put it on Instagram. Next thing, you know, everyone's banging

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Speaker 3: on me for you know, a humble brag about my TV,

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Speaker 3: Like it's not even my TV.

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Speaker 3: My mom's texting me like, hey, that doesn't look humble.

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Speaker 3: Like you got to respond to these people. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I got to respond to these people. I'm in a

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Speaker 3: food coma. I'm not sober, you know, I got to

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Speaker 3: respond to these people. But I just want to say,

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Speaker 3: if you're a listener who thinks I would ever have

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Speaker 3: you know. So so all right, So did you did

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Speaker 3: you wake up for this Combat Sports and Coffee on

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Speaker 3: UFC Fight Pass for Francis and Gonald Curtis Blaze?

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Speaker 4: You watch it after the fact?

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Speaker 5: I did not.

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Speaker 6: I watched it definitely after the fact. I watched it

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Speaker 6: the evening. Uh and of course I saw the spoilers,

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Speaker 6: so that's my fall for waiting that long. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: The spoiler thing is tough, though, especially when it's that

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Speaker 4: I wasn't on social media.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't realize the main card was six thirty

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Speaker 3: And the event was over and I saw the result,

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Speaker 3: and that was unfortunate. It was unfortunate for Curtis Blades.

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Speaker 3: It was not for Francis and Ghana. You know, he

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Speaker 3: walks out to all eyes on me, Tupac Shakur, all

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Speaker 3: eyes were on him. I think despite the fact that

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Speaker 4: Can flow your thoughts.

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Speaker 6: Again, my consistency on these main events, they're just unbelievable. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I know it was funny, but no, listen, this was

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Speaker 6: a great surprise because, you know, we talked about it.

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Speaker 6: I was not sure if Francis and Ghana was going

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Speaker 6: going to be able to get his confidence back and

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Speaker 6: let those hands go. After that Derek Lewis fight, I

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Speaker 6: I think he was letting his hands fly. He landed

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Speaker 6: that shot very early on. He was looking to be

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Speaker 6: the stoppage. I know Curtis was kind of complaining about it,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, despite the immediate protest Kenny, he didn't seem to

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Speaker 3: but largely I thought it was good work from Mark Goddard.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was a good tweet from Jordan Breen

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Speaker 3: about the stoppage. Jesus and got a White Blades out

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Speaker 3: in twenty five seconds. He did it so fast it

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Speaker 3: but committed the cardinal sin of touching the attacking fighter

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Speaker 4: What a blasting.

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Speaker 3: But you remember I always referenced the Pat Barry check

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Speaker 3: Kongo when Dan Murgleiotta touches Pat Barry right, and this

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 3: He barely grazed the fighter. And maybe he didn't have

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Speaker 3: the most opportune angle. And we know Curtis Blade's is

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Speaker 3: gonna shoot, whether it's a desperation shot or otherwise. But

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Speaker 3: I thought largely the stoppage was okay as far as

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Speaker 3: in Ghanuh. You know, it's hard to read too much

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Speaker 3: into this result for me. Right on paper, he improves

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Speaker 3: to twelve and three. He still has never been finished.

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Speaker 3: But after fighting forty minutes Kenny his last two fights

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Speaker 3: going the distance in a couple of losses, he wipes

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Speaker 3: what does this tell you about the extent to which

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Speaker 3: in Ghanu is back? Does it tell you anything about

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Speaker 3: Tell me something, because I don't, you know, want to

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Speaker 3: sit here and say I have no answers, but I'm

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Speaker 3: not willing to just anoint Francis in Ganu based upon

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Speaker 6: And I think that's accurate. Now, listen, out of that

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Speaker 6: of fighting that went on. But no, for sure, listen,

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Speaker 6: I don't think he was trying to throw his hands

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Speaker 6: at all. He seemed very tentative. He seemed very afraid

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Speaker 6: very least, it seems like that fear is gone.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: His willingness to want to trade, I think is back.

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Speaker 6: But you're right, we never really saw him have to

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Speaker 6: defend if he got taken down, and you know, what

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Speaker 6: What was his defense like if he was kind of

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Speaker 6: letting the hands go. That's a good sign. But I

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Speaker 6: think you're right anytime you see these quick finishes, which

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Speaker 6: A Mitchell's because he just didn't have a whole lot

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Speaker 6: didn't know how good he really was. And I don't

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Speaker 6: Who's one of those guys who's just really hard to

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Speaker 3: But if he can sort of parlay some development and

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Speaker 3: improvement in all phases with the with the physical gifts,

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Speaker 3: I still think as I thought going into the step

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Speaker 3: A fight, as many did when he was favored to

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Speaker 3: become the UFC heavyweight champion, I still think he can

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Speaker 3: be the UFC heavyweight champ. I know Montel Jackson UFC

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Speaker 3: bantam weight has bigger hands than in Ghanu, But do

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you see it, like what's the glove size?

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Speaker 3: You know, when he kicks your lower half? Feels like

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Speaker 3: he kicks as hard as anybody in this division, even

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Speaker 3: if the technique isn't perfect, you know. So I'm still

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Speaker 3: excited about him, And certainly when you look at the

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Speaker 3: heavyweight division big picture, you do have young up and

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Speaker 3: coming guys tied to Ivaso who will get to later.

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Speaker 3: You know, this is a healthy result for the heavyweight division,

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Speaker 3: right even if Curtis Blades was tracking to be the

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Speaker 3: greatest wrestler on paper in terms of takedowns in UFC

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Speaker 3: heavyweight history, this is a big result I think for

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Speaker 3: the UFC heavyweight division, and in Ghana very much gave

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Speaker 3: them something to work with here with this type of

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Speaker 3: forty five second knockout that sort of gets him back

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Speaker 3: to what got him on that faster and.

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Speaker 6: John I hope that they still see him as a project,

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Speaker 6: both his coaches and the UFC, because I still think

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Speaker 6: there is a lot of room for improvement, especially when

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Speaker 6: it comes to the wrestling in the ground game, and

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Speaker 6: if he gets that in order and gets more technical

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Speaker 6: on the feet, this is a guy who could potentially

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Speaker 6: but let him develop, get that training in, get those

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Speaker 6: right fights to move him along.

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Speaker 3: I wonder how Daniel Cormier feels about Francis and Ghanu

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Speaker 2: It's now time for the Ray Longo minute.

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Speaker 5: And I'm gonna punch a hole in the US.

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Speaker 4: Y'all, the All American is here.

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Speaker 7: Have you guys ever read the Old American Burger?

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Speaker 5: Doctor Longo in the office.

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Speaker 6: You don't know I was a college everyone's an amateur

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Speaker 7: I think actually I'm still I'm a collegist. Hello, Kenny, Eh,

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Speaker 7: Yes? In the medical field. Uh sounds yes.

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Speaker 4: Uh So what was the the extent of your your

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Speaker 7: really nobody, and then I h I'm gonna say, I'm

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Speaker 7: prisce screwing this up. I dislocated my shoulder in some

439
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Speaker 7: crazy sparring in the city. So I was out in

440
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Speaker 7: between that time the UFC hits and when I go

441
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Speaker 7: back to jiu jitsu, it went from like six people

442
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Speaker 7: to two, you know, like the nine o'clock class at

443
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Speaker 7: thirty and then the other class had thirty so yeah,

444
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Speaker 7: so we uh yeah, so that's how it really started

445
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Speaker 7: with that. So I was already doing jiu jitsu at

446
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Speaker 7: the time and now obviously teaching, and again I had

447
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Speaker 7: a couple of kick one kickboxing champ. I actually even

448
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 7: had some uh you know, colleague champs in some of

449
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,120
Speaker 7: the local tournaments. But yeah, so I met Matt and

450
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Speaker 7: I'm assuming I watched the first one with him, believe

451
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Speaker 7: it or not, but I'd have to really think about it. Well,

452
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Speaker 7: by the time we got back. By the time I

453
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Speaker 7: got back and I was rehab from my shoulder, I

454
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Speaker 7: got to tell you that class went from five people

455
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Speaker 7: to sixty people and from there it just kept growing

456
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 7: and growing and growing, and we were all trying to

457
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Speaker 7: figure stuff out. And you know, I had a funny

458
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Speaker 7: conversation with Mike Pile, like a couple of years ago where,

459
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Speaker 7: you know, because he had come to my school with

460
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Speaker 7: had Rego Gracie way before that, I think, and you know,

461
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Speaker 7: it was like you would go from seminar to seminar, Kenny,

462
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Speaker 7: you can have appreciate this, uh and you just you

463
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Speaker 7: get one or two moves. Man, you were like the king,

464
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Speaker 7: you know. But they kept stringing you along, and it

465
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Speaker 7: was really right at the beginning. It was a great

466
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Speaker 7: period of time. And I'm gonna say for probably a

467
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Speaker 7: couple of months, I was a jiu jitsu superstar, you know,

468
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Speaker 7: until everybody started catching on. Like you know, at that time, Kenny,

469
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 7: you had a couple of moves they worked on everybody. Yes,

470
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Speaker 7: nobody knew what the hell was.

471
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Speaker 5: They were like superpowers back then. She was like superpowers.

472
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Speaker 7: Yeah, and then you know, a month, lady didn't have

473
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Speaker 7: those powers anymore. You had to get another move, you know.

474
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Speaker 7: It was kind of like that. But it was great

475
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Speaker 7: being around Sarah because he really put the time in

476
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Speaker 7: and he was just he would just beat the crap

477
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Speaker 7: out of everybody in that cliff. That guy was an

478
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Speaker 7: absolute fenom back then. And uh, and that was it,

479
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Speaker 7: you know, I don't know if that was a question.

480
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Speaker 4: Yeah, No, did you play other sports growing up or

481
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Speaker 4: once you found martial arts at thirteen? Where the rest history?

482
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Speaker 4: How that all go out?

483
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna say, playing baseball up until that point, and

484
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Speaker 7: at that point, yeah, once they hit martial arts, man,

485
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 7: it was that was it. That's all I gave shit about,

486
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Speaker 7: you know.

487
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Speaker 3: So uh, in terms of like you're and i' we're

488
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Speaker 3: going to get to ia Quinta here in a moment

489
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 3: and anything else you got going on. But in terms

490
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Speaker 3: of your best moment as a coach, I mean, I

491
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Speaker 3: think most if they had to answer that question for you,

492
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Speaker 3: they would say Wadman's first win over Anderson Silva. But

493
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Speaker 3: maybe it was a Ring of Combat championship in which

494
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Speaker 3: you knew you had a guy on the path to

495
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Speaker 3: future greatness. What's what's the best moment for you in

496
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Speaker 3: a in a mixed martial arts cage or setting in

497
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Speaker 3: your career?

498
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Speaker 7: Man, I'll tell you, man, you look, I think I've

499
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Speaker 7: been fortunate enough. I really had so many great moments

500
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Speaker 7: I wouldn't even want to think to pick I. You know,

501
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 7: I'm just happy that when the guys win today, I

502
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Speaker 7: still love the same passion about that that I did

503
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Speaker 7: from the first time. So I think when that disappears,

504
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 7: I'll probably disappear. But you know, when anybody, I mean,

505
00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 7: you know, the states are so high now when anybody

506
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Speaker 7: gets a win, it's a big win right now, it

507
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 7: really is. You know, these guys are all fighting the

508
00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 7: top of it vision, most of the guys, and it's

509
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 7: good seeing some of the other guys coming up, but

510
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 7: they're all really good moments. I don't have one particular moment,

511
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 7: and honestly, there's never any time to even think about

512
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 7: it because once one of those big moments is up,

513
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 7: you move right on to the next moment the next week.

514
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 7: I mean, things are just buoking, you know, and I

515
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 7: don't have time to you know, really, you know, dwell

516
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 7: on some of the losses. You just pick yourself up

517
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 7: and you just keep trying to do a better job

518
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 7: and move on. So it's it to me, it's just

519
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 7: it's it's been a great run and I love it. Ray.

520
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Speaker 6: What do you think is the biggest change since the

521
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 6: first time you cornered in the UFC two today?

522
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 7: I just think the preparation for the fights for me

523
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 7: had to cut weight. I mean I remember going there

524
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,920
Speaker 7: with Matt and even being there that week, and then

525
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Speaker 7: I remember, I think guild Castillo. Remember Guilt Castillo. Yeah,

526
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 7: I think you know, he he helped us out with

527
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Speaker 7: a weight cut once we were lost, you know what

528
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Speaker 7: I mean, No, everybody was was you know, it was

529
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 7: like an arms race. Everybody was, you know, do a

530
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 7: new way of training or you know, do something different.

531
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Speaker 7: So like again, that was a good period of time.

532
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 7: And I think Kenny, I think you helped us out

533
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 7: with the water loading one time. I think you spoke

534
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Speaker 7: to somebody and like at that time that stuff was

535
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 7: was gold Man and now it's. Uh. I think that's

536
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 7: the biggest change is that the nutrition and the weight

537
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 7: cutting is really down to a science now. And you know,

538
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 7: and obviously you know the attributes of everybody getting better

539
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 7: and uh, you know you have to be squared away

540
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 7: in all departments. But but but I think that part

541
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:37,199
Speaker 7: is really really gotten scientifically way better than you know,

542
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 7: there was a lie, you know, you bringing the wrestling.

543
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,400
Speaker 7: Everybody had their own way of doing it was still crazy.

544
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,880
Speaker 7: It was still on the treadmill with a rubbish suit

545
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 7: or doing something that you know, I don't know. So

546
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Speaker 7: I'm going with the nutrition. I think that's been a

547
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 7: big deal.

548
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Speaker 4: What's wrong with the rubber soup?

549
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 7: Bro That there's nothing wrong with it? But I gotta

550
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,400
Speaker 7: tell you, man, there's a wrong way and the right

551
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 7: way to cut weight. And he is you know, like

552
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,960
Speaker 7: I would get a boxing guy and it would be

553
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 7: totally different than what a wrestling guy was doing. And

554
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 7: it's just you know there was no consistency, I don't think,

555
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 7: And now everybody's really became really scientific about it to

556
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 7: where if you really follow what these guys are saying,

557
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 7: you'll have a pretty healthy weight cut. You know, given

558
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 7: all the other factors, that as healthy as it could be.

559
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Speaker 3: I'm running in black glad trash bags down here in

560
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Speaker 3: South Florida outside right before I go on television.

561
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Speaker 4: That's how I kept waiting. So wow, I'm old school wreck,

562
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: all right.

563
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 3: So Ali Quinta is nineteen days out from a headlining

564
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 3: spot against Kevin Lee. I lose my appetite when i

565
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 3: start to talk about this fight because I'm so excited

566
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 3: for this headliner. A nice way for us to us

567
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: to usher out Fox Sports on December fifteenth. From your standpoint,

568
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 3: you're in a good mood today, so I can already

569
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 3: read into that a little bit. A lot of the

570
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 3: hay is in the barn. How is raging al nineteen

571
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 3: days out from this main event in Milwaukee?

572
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 7: Now, I was with him last night. He had a

573
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 7: great night, he had a great weekend, looking good. It's

574
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 7: gonna be a great fight, man, it really is. Because

575
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 7: I think I think you're going to see the best

576
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,920
Speaker 7: Kevin Lee against the best Alaya quinter And I think

577
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 7: that's all you could ask for. And I think these

578
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 7: guys are gonna bring it, and al'sbery psyched for me again.

579
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 7: It's just making it's just making sure I get the

580
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 7: healthiest die of Quinterer in there on the fifteenth and

581
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 7: then it'll be a great night.

582
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 4: All right.

583
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: Last thing, Francis and Gonad Curtis Blades, you lost twenty

584
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 3: five dollars. Okay, so you had a chance to haven

585
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 3: one hundred. You took the favorite. It did not work

586
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 3: out for you. So did you see the fight? Did

587
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: you wake up early for it? And any thoughts on

588
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 3: Francis and Gono on the way up.

589
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 7: I didn't see the fight. I saw a clip of it,

590
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 7: and it man power to him. I really didn't think

591
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 7: he was winning that fight. Yeah, I did not think

592
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 7: he was gonna win. I like Curtis Blades. I think

593
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,439
Speaker 7: he's an up and coma and I think power to

594
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 7: n Ghano for turning that around. You know.

595
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 6: So see everyone was giving me a hard time for

596
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 6: getting another pick wrong.

597
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 5: Ray did the same thing. Guys, Okay, we're in this together.

598
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 7: Oh well, And I really really believed that Blades was

599
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 7: winning that fight. I really thought it wasn't even gonna

600
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 7: be that hard of a fight. But like pawackwanganod man, dude,

601
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 7: he's a big dude. And I don't know, I mean,

602
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 7: was there anything with that? I mean, and again, I

603
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 7: didn't see the fight, but I saw a clip. I

604
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 7: looked like it might have got stopped early. I don't know.

605
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 7: It looked like the guy was coherent, but he was

606
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 7: under attack. But uh, I don't know. If he weathers

607
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 7: that store, maybe it's different.

608
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's almost like if a TV producer tells

609
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: me to make an argument on one side or the other,

610
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: I could probably argue it was a touch premature and

611
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 3: there was a little bit of referee error, but by

612
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: and large, Kenny and I thought Goddard did a good

613
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: job and Blades wasn't necessarily intelligent in the way he

614
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 3: was trying to defend himself, so exactly right.

615
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I really saw like a really crappy clip.

616
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 7: I didn't see any of the fight.

617
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you gotta get that Kenthell vip UFC Fight

618
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: Pass membership and then you can watch it anytime you want. Ray, Okay,

619
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: you know what I'm gonna see if I can see

620
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 3: what it would take to get to get you that via.

621
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Speaker 4: You don't have that VIP treatment. Wiman's got it?

622
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 7: Does he have that treatment?

623
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Speaker 4: I would think I would think he does. All right,

624
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 4: my man.

625
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 7: People they're always partial to somebody who's pregnant.

626
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: So uh, By the way, we are going to have

627
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 3: long Goo make picks head to head against Kenny floor

628
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 3: In for the final Papers View of the year.

629
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Speaker 4: So that's gonna be a.

630
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 7: Look. I just screwed up, and Gano so did I.

631
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 5: So it's even all right.

632
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 3: So Ray, Ray, you do have an opportunity to UFC

633
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: main events this weekend.

634
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 4: If you want to put the money on.

635
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: The line, come on hundred or lose twenty five Halfayo

636
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: do Santos against Kamara Usman, tie to Vasa against Junior Dosantos.

637
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,719
Speaker 4: Those are your UFC main events this weekend.

638
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 3: Do you have any selections for for Antik and Florian

639
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 3: podcast listeners? No, he's keeping the money in the can

640
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: the check.

641
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 4: I will present you with the check when I see

642
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: you in Milwaukee.

643
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: I will be presenting your final twenty eighteen tally. Would

644
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 3: you like a check or cash?

645
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Speaker 7: Okay?

646
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: But well, I just want but I want your wife

647
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: to know that we that we gave you a Christmas kift.

648
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know if she'll know if you might.

649
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 7: Just you want to make you can make it out

650
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 7: the name, give me a check. It's just that's where

651
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 7: it's going anyway.

652
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, all right, love you buddy. Well we'll

653
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Speaker 4: talk to you next Monday. Thank you.

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Speaker 7: All right, take guys, good stuff.

655
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Speaker 5: Right?

656
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Speaker 3: How about Ray long ago not wanting to make predictions

657
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Speaker 3: on this weekend to keep the money.

658
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 6: He was losing the money, Uh, and he wants to

659
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Speaker 6: keep as much as possible.

660
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Speaker 5: I think it's a smart move.

661
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Speaker 6: He was on a little bit of a I mean

662
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Speaker 6: he wasn't getting any of those right, I mean, every

663
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Speaker 6: every opportunity that you gave him to make some money,

664
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Speaker 6: he wasn't capitalizing.

665
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Speaker 3: No, And then of course we you know, adding himself

666
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667
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668
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670
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671
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Speaker 3: In nineteen ninety three November, you would have been seventeen

693
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Speaker 3: years old.

694
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 4: Do you remember where you were.

695
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: Did you watch UFC one live or after the fact?

696
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 5: I did not. I watched it after.

697
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Speaker 3: The fact, So I probably took a break from UFC

698
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: one in nineteen ninety three until like UFC fifty in

699
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Speaker 3: two thousand and four. I think I saw UFC one

700
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Speaker 3: and two and then for whatever reason, there was a break.

701
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 3: But I did watch UFC one live. I was in Newton, Massachusetts,

702
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 3: at at Dan Sherman's house, watching on pay per view.

703
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: I think I tried to go to second base with

704
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: a young woman named Sarah that night. I don't know

705
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 3: if I succeeded on that. But I was watching UFC

706
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: one live in nineteen ninety three when I was like

707
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: fifteen years old, so I do remember that. I don't

708
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: remember a lot of things, but I do remember that

709
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 3: all right. So we were talking about Alistair Overeim when

710
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: Longo so rudely interrupted it feels like he put in

711
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: the right work. Like I'm not trying to read into

712
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 3: his physique, but maybe I'm reading into his post fight

713
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 3: interview when he referenced the hard work. And again, this

714
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,640
Speaker 3: could so at heavyweight at this level, sixty pro fights

715
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: in or whatever he is. You know, this can go

716
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: the other way. You know, that right hand from Sergei

717
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: could have landed a little bit harder and that could

718
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: have been the beginning of the end for Alistair Overreim.

719
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 3: So the fact that he hung in there, took a

720
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: couple shots, granted not right on the bell, but took

721
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 3: a couple shots and then grounded out his opponent like that,

722
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 3: I think is a huge feather in the cap of

723
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: overhim and not unlike in Ghanu. You know, just feel

724
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: good for a good man, a father I think of

725
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: four and this is a big win for Alistair overhim

726
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 3: at this stage of his.

727
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 5: Career, it is. It's a huge win.

728
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 6: And because he's such a big name, and because oh yeah,

729
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 6: at the top of the mountain, he could potentially be

730
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 6: back there. Yes, he's at the end of his career,

731
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 6: but you know it's possible that he can make another

732
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 6: run and a few wins in the heavyweight division, which

733
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 6: isn't you know, certainly not as vast as the one

734
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty five pound division for example, or the welterweights.

735
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 5: You know, a few wins and you're right back in there.

736
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 4: Well not unlike Andrea Orlovsky, right, I mean, he's always

737
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: going to be a name that they can either, you know,

738
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 4: promotionally use to maybe try to vault a guy that

739
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 4: doesn't always work out, of course, but you know over

740
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:32,719
Speaker 4: he wouldn't want fight.

741
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: You could be at a main event, right They they

742
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 3: headline heavyweights all the time, so I wouldn't be surprised.

743
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 3: I don't know who it'll be against, but to see

744
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 3: Alestrobriums his next fight be like an ESPN Plus type

745
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: UFC Fight Night main event, Lee jinglyon, I love the

746
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 3: leech can flow, you know, I love the leech. I

747
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 3: mean I you know, I'm like screen grabbing his post

748
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 3: fight interview to have a picture of the leech on

749
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: my phone. Right, And this was just a very big

750
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 3: win for him as he gets it done with the

751
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: body kick against David Zawata. You don't see this can

752
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: flow every day. I mean a fight finish with a sidekick.

753
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: I think maybe the heel to the solar plexus is

754
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: that accurate. Talk us through that finish in round three

755
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 3: for the.

756
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Speaker 5: Leach, he timed it beautifully.

757
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 6: And whether you're working a teep or a sidekick, I

758
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 6: think it is best used to counter the forward motion

759
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 6: of your opponent, and he timed it beautifully right down

760
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 6: the middle. And that's kind of the one spot where

761
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 6: you know, if you're keeping your hands up where you

762
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 6: all are vulnerable. And Zawata, you know, is a tough

763
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 6: striker in his own right, but ran right into that

764
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 6: and those body shots are just brutal. No matter how

765
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 6: much you want to continue fighting, your body just simply

766
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 6: just does not let you kind of get upright and

767
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 6: it took the wind right out of him. And from

768
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 6: there you get a true fighter in the leach, and

769
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 6: he's going to take you out.

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Speaker 5: Man.

771
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 6: This is a guy who you know, not everybody has

772
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Speaker 6: that it's time to get nasty at attitude when they

773
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 6: stepped into the octagon.

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Speaker 5: And that dude is a fighter. You know that.

775
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 6: And we've seen some dirty things from him in the past,

776
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,439
Speaker 6: but he's just mean, and I gotta admit I kind

777
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 6: of like it.

778
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 5: I mean, this guy. He wants to go out there

779
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 5: and he's trying to hurt people. He loves to fight.

780
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 6: He's not a guy who's out there looking to try

781
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 6: to outpoint you or look for a decision. He wants

782
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 6: to hurt you from the opening bell to the very end,

783
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 6: and he's been delivering a lot of exciting fights because

784
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 6: of it. He actually got dropped or I think maybe

785
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 6: got dazed at one point his knees buckled, was able

786
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 6: to get right back into the fight against a Zawata

787
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 6: who was very aggressive and pretty good in his own

788
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 6: right on the feet.

789
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 5: But Lee Jing liong man I was impressed.

790
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: And certainly not afraid to get hit right and was

791
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: moving his head a whole bunch in this fight. In

792
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: the head movement helped him out at times. But you're right,

793
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 3: he did get cracked early on. He was to face

794
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 3: the Lezio's Aleski dos Santos, who I believe is number

795
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 3: fourteen or number fifteen in the world. So they're moving

796
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 3: the leech in the right direction. I think in Zeleski

797
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 3: dos Santos he'll have sort of a willing party in

798
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: terms of trying to just put on a sick fight

799
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 3: for the fans, and you can see why they made

800
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: that matchup, so perhaps that'll be next for the Leach.

801
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 3: You reference sort of some dirty moments for the Leach, right,

802
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: and everybody will certainly point to the Jake Matthews fight.

803
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was fish hooking from the bottom.

804
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 3: My memory is not great. Whatever it was in this fight, Kenny,

805
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 3: you also had it at the end of round two.

806
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 4: I believe it was. Some would say it's dirty.

807
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 3: Dan Hardy vehemently on the other side of this debate,

808
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 3: but blatantly two or three hooks thrown at least two

809
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 3: and one third punches, I think, as they put it

810
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 3: on the broadcast, thrown by Lee Jinglyong.

811
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 4: After the horn.

812
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, but referees and a lot of fighters are adamant

813
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 3: that that horn is not for the fighters. It is

814
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 3: for the referees, and that that should result in action

815
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 3: from the referee, not necessarily in action from the fighters.

816
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw the end of that round,

817
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 3: you know it didn't sit super well with me, but

818
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: I understand this is sort of so it goes right.

819
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 6: I did see that, and also, you know, maybe to

820
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 6: defend the Leach a little bit, it's it can be

821
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 6: very hard to hear the bell, not only when you're

822
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 6: in the moment and you're throwing a combination, but also

823
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 6: with the crowd and the referee and you know, the excitement,

824
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 6: it can be hard to hear that. We remember the

825
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 6: Aldo fight against Mendes, in the rematch in Brazil. You

826
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 6: know that there was a dispute about that of whether

827
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 6: you know, Aldo was able to hear the bell in there,

828
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 6: and I think a lot of people who were there

829
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 6: at the fight actually didn't hear the bell at the.

830
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 5: End of that round either. So it can be difficult

831
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 5: to hear.

832
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 6: But you know, because of his past history and the

833
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 6: thing that happened with Jake Matthews, whether it's the eye

834
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 6: gouging or you know, the fish hooking, you know, maybe.

835
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe he did hear it. That's the thing. Maybe

836
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 5: he did.

837
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, given the past history, right, It's almost like Dan

838
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 3: hard Hardy is telling this roster to a man to

839
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: a woman to fight through the horn, not to the horn, right,

840
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 3: And it's almost like, yeah, you know what if this

841
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: is the way Mark Goddard and the referees are approaching this,

842
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 3: then yeah, fight through the horn, right. I mean it's like,

843
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 3: because I can't tell you how many times Canny at

844
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 3: the end of a round you end up up against

845
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 3: the fence and it's almost like, you know, if you

846
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: ain't cheat, you ain't trying, right, like, get away with

847
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 3: as many fence grabs until they warn you. They never

848
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: do so sternly, I don't know. I think that's set

849
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,919
Speaker 3: in a bad precedent. And you know, I understand I'm

850
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: not a fighter, right, so I can't relate to hearing

851
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: that horn in combat. But I will tell you that

852
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 3: horn sounded sure as fuck like the loudest thing in

853
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 3: that arena by a file when they blew it on

854
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: Saturday night.

855
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 5: I agree. I agree.

856
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 6: I saw it a few times and yeah, I looked

857
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 6: at my buddy who was I was watching it with, and.

858
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, yeah, it seems like it again. Yeah.

859
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, Because he landed those first two shots in the combination,

860
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 6: he's like, you know what, let me throw another couple more.

861
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

862
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 3: Well, it's trying to light up the crowd, and you know,

863
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 3: I love so much of it. There's no malice with

864
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: this guy, you know, he's one of the nicest guys

865
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: on the Rosier Man. Yes, exactly, and he's fighting through

866
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: that horn. And if you're a fighter listening to this man,

867
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 3: you know I'd fight through that horn. Man, I don't

868
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 3: care how loud it is or how quiet the arena is.

869
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 3: Keep punching. If it's the referees job, and what you're

870
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 3: telling you, he better jump in there because you're a

871
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 3: fighter and you're fucking throwing hooks after the horn, whether

872
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 3: they like it or not. All right, So we're going

873
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 3: we have a lot of picks to make today, but

874
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: a few other things to get to. Who sort of

875
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: empty out the MMA news desk here Israel Adasanya, the

876
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 3: last style Bender is going to fight Anderson Silva UFC

877
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: two thirty four, second weekend in February on pay per view.

878
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 3: Silva's last win, of course, Derek Brunson in twenty seventeen,

879
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: serving USADA suspension, since that was a fight that arguably

880
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 3: could have gone the other way, and that was his

881
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: first win since twenty twelve out of Sonya, of course,

882
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 3: on a roll in the UFC going in the completely

883
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 3: opposite direction. I think in some part, Kenny, this is

884
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: a backup plan in case Robert Whitaker Calvin Gasolim is

885
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 3: unable to make the walk or unable to make weight.

886
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 3: I think they would absolutely slide out of Sonya in

887
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 3: and if needed, maybe for an interim championship against gasolom

888
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 3: or for the undisputed title against Whittaker.

889
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 4: I absolutely believe they would do that.

890
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: But a lot of opinion, Kenny, on both sides of

891
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 3: this out of Sonya Silva matchup being made. It's hard

892
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 3: not to have some excitement. I can understand why others

893
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 3: are questioning the promotion's decision to go in this direction.

894
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 6: Oh, first of all, in regards to someone slipping into

895
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 6: the main event in case one of those guys gets injured.

896
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 6: I think it's a fight that makes a lot of sense,

897
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,479
Speaker 6: and you're seeing the UFC do this more and more

898
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 6: for these important fights, at least having a good act

899
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 6: up plan. Yeah, I agree, it's something you gotta gotta do.

900
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 5: Now.

901
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 6: As far as the out of Sonya and Anderson Silva fight,

902
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 6: it's interesting, and again it all comes down to your perspective.

903
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,399
Speaker 6: Anderson Silva is now what forty forty three?

904
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, he's older than me.

905
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 7: Ha.

906
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: I need not look that up, but I thought it

907
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 3: was forty three, okay, so ohya, Yeah, whoops, all right,

908
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: he's forty three.

909
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 5: Okay, well listen.

910
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 6: Obviously at the end of his career, he is you know,

911
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 6: he was out of Sonya. Before out of Sonya was

912
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 6: probably fighting MMA at that point.

913
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 5: So we do have this true.

914
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 6: New school versus old school fight the former champ at

915
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 6: one hundred and eighty five pounds and obviously a terrific

916
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 6: platform for Audasanya to show just how good he is now.

917
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 5: Anderson Silva certainly isn't the same guy.

918
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 6: I think he still loves to fight, still is motivated

919
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 6: to go out there and perform and put on good

920
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 6: fights and make some good money in the UFC.

921
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 5: But you know, if you're.

922
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 6: Looking at it from the outside ind and just seeing

923
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 6: this trend of what promotions do both in boxing and

924
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 6: in mixed martial arts, this is that big kind of

925
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 6: platform from Audit for aud of Sonya to go, look

926
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 6: how good I am, Look how much I've surpassed former

927
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 6: champions like Anderson Silva. Anderson Silva was good, but I'm

928
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 6: even better. I've taken what he has done and taken

929
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 6: it to the next level. So it really is an

930
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 6: unbelievable opportunity for Adasanya to showcase his skills against one

931
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 6: of the greatest to ever compete inside the octagon, and

932
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 6: I think it's an exciting fight just from that standpoint.

933
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 6: If Anderston Silva is able to go and just kind

934
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 6: of let his hands fly and let his strikes do

935
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 6: what they do, I think he could potentially surprise people

936
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 6: as well. He doesn't have to worry about a takedown,

937
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 6: he doesn't have to worry about a ground game, and

938
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 6: who knows, maybe Anderson Silva is the guy who actually

939
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 6: tries to take this fight to the ground because he

940
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 6: would have the advantage there as the Brazilian jitsu black belt.

941
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 6: So I'm intrigued with this fight. There's no doubt about it.

942
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 6: This is a very interesting fight.

943
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 3: Anderson Silva April fourteenth, nineteen seventy five, so he is

944
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: forty years old. I'm going to read another tweet here

945
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 3: from Jordan to Breen at Jordan Breen on Twitter. Silva

946
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 3: Adasanya will do next to nothing to make the younger

947
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 3: fighter a better mixed martial artist. This is a play

948
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 3: to build Israel's name, not prepare him for what comes next,

949
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: which should be the priority. Also, if Israel does his thing,

950
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 3: that means an all time great got used, you know.

951
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 3: I think that's one argument here, right, is that in

952
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: a perfect world, people would like to see Atasanya against

953
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 3: Paolo Costa, right, a young contender who's in the top five,

954
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 3: who would be much more logical if there was a bracket.

955
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: But we just don't have a bracket, and ultimately, this

956
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: is a business in some respects, and the UFC has

957
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 3: to do what they.

958
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 4: Think is bad best.

959
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 3: I think the matchup has more merit, obviously than people

960
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: like Jordan Breen do I really do? You know, I

961
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 3: don't know what the betting line is going to be.

962
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 3: If Atasanya ends up a minus seven to fifty favorite,

963
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 3: you know, then I would have been way off base.

964
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 3: But I think it'll be closer than that. If the

965
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 3: fight won't be closer than that, I don't know how

966
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 3: close the fight going to be, But I just feel

967
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,719
Speaker 3: like some of the negativity that's out there when there's

968
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 3: a matchup like this that gets announced, I think it

969
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 3: seems to me like a lot of MMA fans who

970
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 3: are complaining should be a little bit conditioned to this.

971
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 3: And I don't know that it's any huge statement about

972
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: where the UFC is in twenty eighteen. Versus where they

973
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: were in twenty fourteen. You know, I think they see

974
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 3: enough merit in this matchup to strategically make it and

975
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: I don't think it comes down to much more than that.

976
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 6: I agree, and listen, you know, I don't know this

977
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 6: is a case, but how do we not know that

978
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 6: Anderson Silva was the guy who actually asked for this fight, right?

979
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 6: You know, Anderson Silva has a tremendous belief in himself.

980
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 6: Maybe to a fault, perhaps, I think the very thing

981
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 6: that makes someone a fighter is the very thing that

982
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 6: keeps him in the game. Probably a little bit too long,

983
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 6: as we saw this weekend as well with with Tito

984
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 6: and Chuck Liddell. But you know, I think that for

985
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 6: this fight, it something that is always going to happen

986
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 6: in combat sports, and the fighters involved always have the

987
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,160
Speaker 6: right to say, you know what, and the management this

988
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:09,879
Speaker 6: is a fight that doesn't make sense for us.

989
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 5: Obviously, both parties agreed at the end of the day.

990
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 6: It's something we've been seeing in combat sports for a

991
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 6: very long time. Two guys who are interesting strikers. Of course,

992
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,720
Speaker 6: Anderson Silva was, you know, one of the best strikers

993
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 6: we had ever seen in Israel Adasanya trying to be

994
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 6: the best and take it to another level.

995
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 5: So it's an interesting fight because of it.

996
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 3: And an interesting layer for me is that Ata Sonya

997
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: not that he's preparing for three opponents. And if you

998
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 3: know anything about Adasanya, he's not really worried about the opponent.

999
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: But I think he's got to prepare for a five

1000
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,760
Speaker 3: round championship fight on February ninth or tenth, right, because

1001
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 3: you just don't know what's going to happen with any

1002
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 3: of those three guys. And for Adasania, obviously, it's going

1003
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 3: to be a huge fight regardless, and he beats Anderson Silva,

1004
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 3: big Ones coming next, might even fight for the UFC

1005
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 3: middleweight title. All Right, we're going to spin it forward

1006
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 3: here to the two UFC Live events this weekend. Before

1007
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 3: we do, though, Ken Flow, Chuck Ladell, and Tito Ortiz

1008
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: fought for a third time over the weekend. Chuckle, I

1009
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: was going to be forty nine years old in three weeks.

1010
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 3: This was an itch that he wanted to scratch. Did

1011
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 3: you entertain ordering this on pay per view? Did you

1012
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 3: pluck down your hard earned thirty nine to ninety nine

1013
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 3: to what extent was Laddel Ortiz three on your radar

1014
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 3: Thanksgiving weekend moment, it.

1015
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 5: Was on my radar. Did I watch it?

1016
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 7: No?

1017
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,399
Speaker 5: Was I thinking about paying for it?

1018
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 4: No?

1019
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 6: I think we kind of you know, and listen, I

1020
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 6: love Chuck, I absolutely love the guy. The guy is

1021
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 6: one of the best best fighters to ever compete inside

1022
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 6: the octagon, one of the nicest gentlemen you'll ever meet.

1023
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 6: And this was a fight where going into this, I said,

1024
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 6: this is the one time where Tito Ortiz could actually

1025
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 6: beat Chuck Ladell. And you know, we all aged differently,

1026
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 6: We all, you know, have our peaks at different times

1027
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 6: in our life, and you know, this was one that

1028
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 6: I was a little bit concerned with for Chuck and Tito.

1029
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 6: And you know, my perspective on it is that I

1030
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 6: want to give people the best of me. I want

1031
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 6: people to see me compete at my best. And I

1032
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 6: don't even care necessarily about that. I want to see

1033
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 6: myself compete at my best when I'm at my physical peak.

1034
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 6: And I always said if my body wasn't going to

1035
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 6: be one hundred percent, I wasn't going to do it.

1036
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 5: It's just not worth it. I want to see what.

1037
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 6: I'm capable of and at forty nine years old, forty

1038
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,560
Speaker 6: eight years old, getting close to the fifties. I don't

1039
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 6: know if we really wanted to see that. I didn't.

1040
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 6: And you know, I think we have to also give

1041
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 6: big time kudos to Dana White for you know, putting

1042
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 6: his foot down going you know what, can I make

1043
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 6: a lot of money on this fight? Absolutely? Am I

1044
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 6: going to do this. No, it's just not a fight

1045
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 6: that I'm interested in watching. And kudos to him for

1046
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 6: not making this fight. And I think it was Yeah,

1047
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 6: I mean when do we you know, are we watching

1048
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 6: guys fight at fifty? You know, are we watching you know,

1049
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 6: the best guys in history fight like ten twenty years

1050
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 6: after their prime.

1051
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just not the same thing. It's not

1052
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 5: the same thing.

1053
00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 3: No, I agree, And I you know in basketball, right,

1054
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 3: like ice Cube has this three on three league, right,

1055
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,279
Speaker 3: and a lot of those guy it's a totally different animal, right.

1056
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, mixed martial arts, you know, you

1057
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: can't really change the sport and the inherent danger in it,

1058
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: you know, So there's a lot I mean, I you know,

1059
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,319
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, I almost ordered this fucking thing.

1060
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 3: Though maybe it's just the sports better in me, right,

1061
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 3: because I'm looking at that under a round and a

1062
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: half right over under one and a half rounds, under

1063
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: one and a half rounds minus one fifty. I'm contractually

1064
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 3: prevented from betting on mixed martial arts in any capacity,

1065
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 3: and that's why I did not bet under one and

1066
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 3: a half rounds. A lot of people are saying it's

1067
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 3: a sucker bet. I just didn't see any way that

1068
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 3: that fight was going into an eighth minute one way

1069
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 3: or the other. Tito was about a three to one favorite,

1070
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: but at under one and a half rounds, cash Chas Skelly.

1071
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 3: By the way, UFC featherweight cashing a ticket on that

1072
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 3: under one and a half rounds. All right, we got

1073
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 3: to get to some picks. Enough rambling, let's get to

1074
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 3: the main event challenge.

1075
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 2: It's the main event challenge.

1076
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 3: The time is most definitely I.

1077
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 2: Finished, how do you everything possible to win the main

1078
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 2: event challenge to John Annick and Kenny Florian podcast.

1079
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 3: See there's a prime ken flow with the voice like

1080
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: three octaves higher.

1081
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 4: You know, I was noticing singing singing in the car

1082
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 4: with my kids.

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00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 3: I can't hit notes in songs that I used to

1084
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 3: be able to hit.

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00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 5: You can't go into the falsetto kid.

1086
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 3: No, I mean there are notes that legit. I mean

1087
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 3: I really strained now to hit that I used to

1088
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 3: be able to just fucking crush.

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Speaker 7: You know.

1090
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 5: The kids are laughing at you, Dad, What are you doing? Yeah?

1091
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 3: Oh well they're just like that, shut up like it now,

1092
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 3: they're just like dad, can you please stop singing? In

1093
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 3: three years they're gonna be like Dad, shut the fuck up, man.

1094
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 3: You know, but I think it's EA Sports. UFC three

1095
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 3: is to blame forever.

1096
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 4: Damn.

1097
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 3: It's my voice voice in that video game, all right.

1098
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: So Team Annik led it one thirty four to one

1099
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 3: twenty two going into UFC Fight Night Blades versus in

1100
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 3: Ghanu two. Not a great week for our guest picker Eric,

1101
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 3: not a great week for the Flow, but Team Floridan

1102
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 3: wins a second straight week two to one. The final

1103
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 3: one thirty five to one twenty four. With two UFC

1104
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: live events coming up this weekend and with us to

1105
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: make picks today, making his return you know him from

1106
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 3: Oddshark dot com now with hotspawn Esports dot Com, Justin

1107
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: Hartling is with us.

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Speaker 4: Justin appreciate your time today, sir. How are you man?

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Speaker 8: I want to do a fantastically of course, I'm here

1110
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 8: with you. Reclaimed my victory over Florida and UFC two

1111
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 8: twenty back in the day. Burgos can pull it out,

1112
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 8: but he was wrong on that one, and I'm here

1113
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 8: to defend yet again.

1114
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: Well, it's it's good to have you back, and I

1115
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 3: know you're in the e sports world now and maybe

1116
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 3: on a day when we have more time, I'll ask

1117
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 3: you about all that noise, because talk about ignorant. I'm

1118
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 3: first in line when it comes to esports. But we

1119
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 3: got some picks to make. Let's start with the Friday

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Speaker 3: Night or Tough twenty eight finale in Las Vegas. Two

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00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 3: picks out of you guys on this card. First up,

1122
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 3: good fight at bantam Wait Pedro Muno's minus two to

1123
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 3: eighty old friend Brian Caraway comes back at plus two hundred.

1124
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 3: Munos is one five of his last six, big win

1125
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 3: over Brett johnsont UFC two twenty seven. In August, he

1126
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 3: takes on Brian Caraway, idle since of March lost to

1127
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: Cody Stamen by split decision, justin Muno's and Caraway, who do.

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00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 8: You like, Yeah, I'm gonna have to take the track

1129
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 8: I'm going with film this one. It's a little harder

1130
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 8: than you would think just looking at that line. But

1131
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 8: one of the big things that I kind of saw

1132
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 8: watching the last few fights is a stamen really started

1133
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 8: to chew up Caraway in that third round of their

1134
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 8: fight with the leg kicks, and that's something that Munoz

1135
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 8: loves to do. He loves to take out the legs

1136
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,320
Speaker 8: of his opponent and Caraway obviously, he likes the pressure

1137
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 8: and tells you like to move forward a bit so

1138
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 8: that leaves those lead legs open, and if Munio's can

1139
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,760
Speaker 8: just kind of continue to chip away at Carraway early,

1140
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 8: then that plays in obviously well.

1141
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 7: Tome later.

1142
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 8: Scared me because at times he looks like a punching

1143
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 8: bag in defense could use some work. But at the

1144
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 8: end of the day, I don't think Carraway necessarily has

1145
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 8: the power to make him pay for that, So I say.

1146
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:25,799
Speaker 3: The play in this one media, Yes, some good analysis there.

1147
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 3: Munyo's He does love his striking, Kenny, he really does.

1148
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 3: He feels like he is sparring favorably with professional boxers

1149
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 3: as a mixed martial artist sort of an underappreciated resume.

1150
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 3: Sixteen and three, the only pro losses all on the scorecards.

1151
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: Hafeilasunsao splits to Jimmy Rivera and John Dodson. Brian Caraway

1152
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 3: also a hard guy to put away. We know Munyo's

1153
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 3: has never been finished. Your thoughts on Caraway and Muno's

1154
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 3: coming up this weekend?

1155
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Justin did a nice breakdown there, you know,

1156
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 6: for Pedro Munos Listen. I agree he does get hit

1157
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 6: a little bit too often for my liking. Defensively, some

1158
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 6: work to do, but he is improving offensively. Offensively, he's

1159
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 6: got some nice weapons, and I do think he has

1160
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 6: the advantage on the feet against Caraway, who really doesn't

1161
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 6: kick much, you know, kind of throws wide, looping punches.

1162
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 6: You know, he hits decently hard, but I don't think

1163
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 6: he's gonna be the threat that Munyos has to worry

1164
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 6: about on the feet. Where Karaway does have the advantage

1165
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 6: that was probably with his wrestling. I think that might cancel,

1166
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 6: you know, the the jiu jitsu and wrestling skills of

1167
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 6: Munios out of the equation. I don't know if we're

1168
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 6: going to see these guys hit the mat I have

1169
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 6: trained with both these guys on the ground.

1170
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 5: Munio's very talented Caraway as well.

1171
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 6: I think Karaway might be a little bit tougher from

1172
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 6: the top position. Munyos is gonna be good both on

1173
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 6: the bottom man top. So I'm interested to see if

1174
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 6: this fight does go to the ground. I don't think

1175
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 6: it does. I think because of that, Munyos will have

1176
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:53,760
Speaker 6: the advantage on the feet and will win this one.

1177
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure Caraway's got enough pop on the feet.

1178
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:58,800
Speaker 3: You know, he likes to lead with that left hook

1179
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 3: and failed takedown. There's a lot of uppercuts from Caraway,

1180
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 3: and Munjo's's chin might be there. I'm just not sure

1181
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 3: he'll be able to crack it hard enough to get

1182
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 3: Paiedro out of there. But a good fight nonethelesson and

1183
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 3: part of the main card coming up Friday night. The

1184
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 3: main event from the Pearl at Palm's Casino Resort, Kamorro

1185
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 3: Usman versus Hafayel Dosanjo's huge fight here at welterweight Usman

1186
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 3: eight no in the UFC as such the prohibited favorite

1187
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: here minus three to zero five. Dosanjo's coming back at

1188
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 3: plus two to twenty five, Justin. This will be the

1189
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 3: first time in Usman's UFC career that he will have

1190
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 3: fought three times in a calendar year. Dosanjo's back off

1191
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 3: the lost to Colsta Colby, to Colby Colby, Covey, Covington's

1192
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 3: in this summer that was for these watchweight titles with

1193
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 3: the round of the method of victory, Justin, who do

1194
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: you like in the main event?

1195
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's no sense in getting pretty with this one.

1196
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 8: It's going to be Usman. I'm gonna take it by

1197
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 8: a decision because RBA is a tough out. But you

1198
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 8: look at dos and News want to fight, and you

1199
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 8: could see that Covington built him down, and that's basically

1200
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 8: the same kind of game plan Usman's going to commit

1201
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 8: to this fight with going to look to pressure him.

1202
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 8: He's going to look to get our Da against the cage,

1203
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,280
Speaker 8: get him to the mat, and just kind of grind

1204
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 8: him into a flying dust. And you saw that again

1205
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 8: in that last fight with Urda and Covington. The size

1206
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 8: advantage really did start to play up. It wasn't earlier

1207
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 8: in our DA's fights when he moved up, but when

1208
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 8: he faced a bigger wrestler who could really get his

1209
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 8: hands on him, really muscle into the ground. It closed

1210
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 8: him a lot of issues, and I think that, you know,

1211
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 8: Usman might be the best doing that right now outside

1212
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 8: of Kabib. So I don't see this playing out much differently.

1213
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 8: So I'm going to take Usman by decision, and you

1214
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 8: know we're going to obviously something. It was grappling a lot,

1215
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 8: but his striking is coming a long way and he's

1216
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 8: started to grow in that. He definitely his method the victory,

1217
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 8: and this one is to grapple, bring it to the ground,

1218
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 8: and I see him doing that pretty much at will

1219
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 8: for five ms ken.

1220
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 3: Flo Kamara Usman, Monas three oh five Halfayel Dosanzos plus

1221
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 3: two twenty five. Your thoughts on a big main event

1222
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: coming up Friday.

1223
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 6: While I do like Dosandes had one hundred and seventy pounds,

1224
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 6: I don't love this matchup here against Kamara Uzman, who

1225
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,839
Speaker 6: really is a true welterweight. He's got the reach, he's

1226
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:16,320
Speaker 6: got the height advantage, and I think we will truly

1227
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,480
Speaker 6: see a big difference once these guys get face to

1228
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 6: face in the octagon.

1229
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 5: I think Uzman is going to be able to.

1230
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 6: Utilize that size advantage repeatedly throughout that fight. Now, Dosanzos

1231
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 6: has struggled with wrestlers, high pressure guys in the past.

1232
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 6: We can go all the way back to Clay Guido,

1233
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 6: we can go to Habidrimaga Manoff, and we can go

1234
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 6: to his last fight against Colby Covington. This is another

1235
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 6: self paw who could smother you, take you out of

1236
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 6: the game. I think for Dosandros to be effective, he

1237
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 6: needs space in order to move and he does best

1238
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,759
Speaker 6: when he's chasing you down, when he's backing you up,

1239
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 6: when he's the grinder. And Uzman, just with his size

1240
00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 6: and wrestling skill, is going to be a handful for

1241
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 6: dos Angos. I like Uzman in this by decision here

1242
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 6: against RDA.

1243
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 3: All right, that brings us to UFC Fight Night, Dos Santos,

1244
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 3: the two Evasa Good car by the way on FS

1245
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 3: one Adelaide, Australia, Saturday Night in the US Sunday Morning

1246
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 3: in Adelaide featured about in the heavyweight division, the lead

1247
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,200
Speaker 3: horse Mark Kant taken on Justin Willis Pickham fight right

1248
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 3: now according to Las Vegas minus one fifteen or so

1249
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,880
Speaker 3: on both sides, Justin Mark Hunt, Justin Willis, Who do

1250
00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,320
Speaker 3: you like, Yeah, this is.

1251
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 8: Probably the one that I've gone back and forth the

1252
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 8: most on because I could I could see a past

1253
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 8: the victory for either one of these guys. Willis gets

1254
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 8: a really fast He's a lot more athletic than you

1255
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 8: would assume when you look at him. He has quick strikes,

1256
00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 8: he has a bit of a gas tank. Not the

1257
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 8: best in the world, but we saw that he can

1258
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 8: go a pretty hard round or two in his last

1259
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 8: few fights. But at the end of the day, I

1260
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 8: think the difference is is just Hunt. His ability to

1261
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 8: counter strike is going to be I think the big

1262
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 8: thing in this because willis great fighter. I think he's

1263
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 8: got a lot of potential in the division, especially being

1264
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 8: as shallow as it is. But Hunt is so good

1265
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 8: at waiting for that perfect time to land a big

1266
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 8: uppercut or that big cross, and Willis is at his

1267
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 8: best when he's pushing forward and he can work behind

1268
00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 8: his fast hands, fast feet, So eventually that's going to

1269
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 8: leave him open to getting that one big shot from

1270
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 8: Hunt that will put Willis down. So I expect Hunt

1271
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 8: to win this one, but I can see a path

1272
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 8: of victory for.

1273
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 3: Both Kenthllo markhon coming off a lost to Alexio Lenk

1274
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 3: last win a knockout of Derek Lewis that was June

1275
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:42,920
Speaker 3: of twenty seventeen.

1276
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 4: So Hunts lost three of four.

1277
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 3: He's back to five hundred thirteen thirteen and one. Willis

1278
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 3: three and zero in the UFC, last win in April

1279
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: against Chase Sherman.

1280
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 4: What do you think here in a pick and flight?

1281
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 6: As Justin mentioned, I do see both guys. You know,

1282
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 6: they could definitely win this fight. Hunt obviously on the

1283
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 6: feet with his knockout power. Justin Willis, I could see

1284
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 6: him out pointing him or maybe grounding out Mark Hunt

1285
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 6: in this fight. I do think he's got to utilize

1286
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 6: his strikes to mix in his wrestling game. Try to

1287
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 6: put Hunt on his back. I think that's going to

1288
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 6: be the easiest path to victory. Of course, Hunt is

1289
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 6: a guy that is going to be dangerous. The last

1290
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 6: thing that goes in your game is your power and Hunt,

1291
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 6: guess what, the guy still has his speed.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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Speaker 6: So this is a tough one to call. I do

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Speaker 6: need points, though, so I'm gonna go with Willis. I'm

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Speaker 6: gonna go the opposite way. I think Willis wins this

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Speaker 6: one by decision.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean It's like I almost got to figure

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Speaker 3: out a scoring system, right, It's like I might as

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Speaker 3: well just give you Dosanjos Kenny right, just for the

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Speaker 3: sake of it, because mathematically maybe you'd be doing that

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Speaker 3: at this point in time.

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Speaker 4: All right, Cole main event. This one's interesting.

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Speaker 3: Tyson Pedro minus four hundred against Shogun, who is a

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00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 3: former champion, a plus three hundred underdog. Tyson Pedro gets

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01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 3: a lot of respect from Las Vegas. In our scoring system,

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Speaker 3: you get an extra three points if Showgun who will

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Speaker 3: wins the fight and you pick him, so four in

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Speaker 3: total for the Showgun upset. But Pedro has lost two

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Speaker 3: of three on paper justin most recently submitted by Ovin

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Speaker 3: Saint Prux, what do you think about Tyson Pedro, not

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Speaker 3: just him in this spot at home in what a

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Speaker 3: lot of people think is a favorable matchup against a

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Speaker 3: fading showgun, but seems to me to be a fighter

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Speaker 3: that has Vegas respect at the very least.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think the thing is, obviously, when you look at

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Speaker 8: Pedro is he's so young and athletic, and he has

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Speaker 8: so many pieces and so much potential. When you look

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Speaker 8: at him and the UFC obviously is behind him. They're

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Speaker 8: giving him plenty of chances to showcase his ability, so

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Speaker 8: it makes sense. And obviously when Vegas is setting a line,

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Speaker 8: they're trying to find that sweet spot where they're going

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Speaker 8: to get action on both sides. So it looks like

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Speaker 8: that's going to be Paedro as the big favorite, and

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Speaker 8: I think that that's because a lot of people see

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Speaker 8: Showgun as kind of, you know, over the hill. At

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Speaker 8: this point. It's been interesting to see show Gun's evolution

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01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 8: over the last few years or throw his entire career.

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01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 8: At this point, he's become this really this pressure based

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01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 8: counter striker almost where he wants to move forward. It

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01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 8: isn't always the most pretty, but so much he has

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Speaker 8: so much experience that he just has this innate feel

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Speaker 8: for fighting and when to do the right thing. So

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Speaker 8: he's definitely not out of this fight. However, I look

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Speaker 8: at Pedro, who is big and athletic and will probably

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Speaker 8: make Showgun look small in there when they're standing side

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Speaker 8: by side, So that's probably going to be the big thing.

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Speaker 8: And we saw I worry about Shogun because in his

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01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 8: last fight against Anthony Smith, we saw that maybe he's

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01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 8: going to struggle against those longer, more athletic, younger fighters

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01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 8: at this point in his career. That's not to take

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01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 8: anything away from him, but he's got a lot of

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01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 8: wear in the tires and I don't think he's the

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01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,919
Speaker 8: I don't think he has that one hit or quitter

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01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 8: power in him to not go Pedro anymore. So I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna go with Pedro in this one. I think Vegas

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01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 8: has the line right. I think that this is a

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01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:10,800
Speaker 8: matchup is probably tailored for him to get some more

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Speaker 8: eyeballs and hopefully build his brand.

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Speaker 4: Good analysis as usual, Justin Hartling can flow, Tyson Pedro

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Speaker 4: Shogun Who are your thoughts?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 6: I think Tyson Pedro is definitely a favorite, but it's

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01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 6: not like Shogun Hua can't win this fight. I don't

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01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,760
Speaker 6: think he's a minus four hundred type favorite here against Hua,

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Speaker 6: but I do think he will win this fight here.

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Speaker 5: I think that, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, his age, the fact that he's gonna just gonna

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01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 6: be fresher, He's going to be fighting, you know, with

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Speaker 6: the crowd behind him. I don't know, man, I do

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Speaker 6: worry about Mauricio Shogun Hua as well.

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Speaker 5: He's not only losing a lot in his last you know.

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01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 6: Look, he's probably the last ten fights or so, but

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01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,640
Speaker 6: he is losing with some bad results in a bad way,

1365
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 6: knocked out cold, all that stuff. So I think this

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01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,680
Speaker 6: is a good matchup for Tyson Pedro and I see

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01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 6: him winning this one, all right.

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01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 3: A couple of plays there on Tyson Paedro main event

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01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 3: now in Adelaide, Australia. This was really the prediction that

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Speaker 3: I was most excited to get from you boys today.

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01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 3: Five rounds if needed, heavyweight division, former CHAMPI and really

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01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 3: one of my favorite people in all of them, and

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01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: may Junior Dosanto's light favorite here minus one forty five

1374
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 3: against the plus one fifteen underdog tie Touivasa justin need

1375
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 3: the round of the method of victory here as well

1376
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 3: as this is the main event. Who do you like

1377
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 3: Touivasa or Junior do Santos.

1378
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 8: After a lot of back and forth, I think ultimately

1379
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 8: I've decided to go with Bam Bam in the second

1380
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 8: round by knockout because one of the big things with

1381
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 8: this fight is going to be who takes the center

1382
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 8: of that octagon first. That is really going to dictate

1383
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 8: who wins. Because JDS wants to be in boxing range

1384
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 8: he wants to he and now with his jab kind

1385
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,400
Speaker 8: of protect himself keep his opponent at range. But when

1386
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 8: you look at jds's last two losses, both by knockout,

1387
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 8: they both happened in similar fashions. He was backing up

1388
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 8: and it came on the counter. So that plays into

1389
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 8: Tie's hand in this one, because TUIs Vassa wants to

1390
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 8: go forward, he wants to be pressing the action. So

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01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 8: we've seen in those last couple of fights from JDS

1392
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 8: that he lost that he get knocked out in You

1393
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 8: see it happens when he's going backwards because his hands

1394
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 8: start floating out, they start really reaching a lot, and

1395
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 8: that leaves him open to a big counter strike. We

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01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 8: saw it against stepe A and we saw it against Overen,

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01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,680
Speaker 8: So I think at the end of the day, Tui

1398
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 8: vass is going to come out aggressive. We saw that

1399
01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 8: he can eat shots. We saw that in his last

1400
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 8: night because Arloski hid him quite a bit. Did he

1401
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,000
Speaker 8: win that fight, I'm not sure. That's not for me

1402
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 8: to decide, but we saw that he has hired to

1403
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 8: take those punches and he can keep moving forward even

1404
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 8: after that. So I do believe that Tui vas is

1405
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 8: just going to keep going forward. He's just going to

1406
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 8: basically zombie this fight until JDS makes that mistake.

1407
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 4: Can Flow.

1408
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 3: Touibasa undefeated eight to oh, three to zero in the UFC.

1409
01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: Last win came against Andrea Rolovsky. I think by decision.

1410
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 3: So JDS has alternated wins and losses dating to twenty twelve.

1411
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 4: Is last nine.

1412
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 3: Last fight beat Lagoy Ivan of twenty five minutes in

1413
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,160
Speaker 3: the main event in Boise, Idaho. That was July twenty eighteen.

1414
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: Slight favorite here is Dos Santos against Tuivasa.

1415
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:33,959
Speaker 4: Can Flow? Who do you like in the main event?

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01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 6: Well, listen, if we're just going on consistency, obviously ty

1417
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 6: Tyvasa has way more momentum. I just don't think he has. Again,

1418
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 6: you look at his last fight against Arlovsky. I was

1419
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 6: not impressed. I think that's a guy that you have

1420
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 6: to be able to stop and win if you're going

1421
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,880
Speaker 6: to be something in the division. And obviously you know

1422
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 6: he could have had an injury heading into that one

1423
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 6: or whatever it was. Uh, things happened, But I expected

1424
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 6: more out of Toui Vasa. I think he got very

1425
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 6: sloppy in that fight. Now, Junior de Santos's last fight

1426
01:06:08,360 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 6: against Ivanoff wasn't great either, but I do think it

1427
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 6: was because of Ivanos hasn't inceeeded to get in the

1428
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 6: pocket against Dosantos, so it was tough for him to

1429
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 6: really land land a lot of meaningful shots. Either way,

1430
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:27,480
Speaker 6: this is a really tough one to call. I need points.

1431
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go the Junior do sant Dos right route.

1432
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 6: I think he is vulnerable to a counter shot. He

1433
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 6: throws that right hand and throws himself off balance when

1434
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 6: he throws that overhand right. He's got to be careful

1435
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 6: doing that against ty Toyvasa. I don't know if touy

1436
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 6: Vasa is gonna be able to move forward as much

1437
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 6: as he likes against a guy who is going to

1438
01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 6: be taller and with a longer reach.

1439
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 5: So I think JDS gets it done.

1440
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 4: All right, You got a method of victory for me? Kid?

1441
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go. Uh, let's go t KO round two.

1442
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 3: TKO round two for Junior Dosan And because Ken Flow's

1443
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 3: trailing on the scorecards, justin just need a quick pick

1444
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 3: for the record, and I like this fight. Jake Matthews

1445
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 3: minus one forty against fellow welterweight hopeful Anthony Rocco Martin,

1446
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 3: who is plus one twenty. That's Tony Martin out there,

1447
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 3: but he wants Anthony Rocco Martin. Now, if you're a

1448
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 3: little bit confused, who do you like there, Justin Matthews

1449
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 3: or Martin.

1450
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 8: Well, I'll just be a nice guy and give Florian

1451
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 8: a little bit of a chance to catch up. So

1452
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 8: we'll take Matthews as the favorite.

1453
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 3: Matthews is the favorite. Ken FLA, you want Tony Martin

1454
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:29,680
Speaker 3: in that exchange or what.

1455
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 5: I do not I'm going with I'm going with Matthews.

1456
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 5: I think he takes it all right.

1457
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 3: Justin Hartling on Twitter he is exactly that at Justin Hartling.

1458
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 3: Great job today, man, appreciate you stepping off. We'll talk

1459
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Speaker 3: to you soon, of course.

1460
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