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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast takes no days off. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kanzas, and I'm joined by a

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Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg

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Speaker 1: ros it All. What's up boys? Hey? Dan? What you creepy? Okay,

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Speaker 1: weird smile. It's going that we are not a video podcast,

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Speaker 1: and some would say thankfully so I agree with that

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Speaker 1: right about now. That was strange, Greg, That's how you

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Speaker 1: opened the show, just trying to shake it up a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I want to make love to Greg, not

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Speaker 1: after and also not before by the way. And it

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Speaker 1: was Sydney I found out. Dan. I thought that you would,

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Speaker 1: you know, set that entire car interview up just to

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Speaker 1: get that kind of content out of me to assassinate

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Speaker 1: me on a later podcast. But I found that's a

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Speaker 1: lot about what you actually think about me. But going well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and then I find out that it was

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Speaker 1: Sydney who did it, which change and just everything I

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Speaker 1: think about Sydney. Unbelievable behavior by you. Sydney. I will

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Speaker 1: say that the people called for it. I had a

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Speaker 1: mask after that period, like a sheep. You just followed

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Speaker 1: their orders and they did what they said. Don't listen

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Speaker 1: to Mark. You did a great job. One of the

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Speaker 1: hottest drafts of two thousand seventeen. Giving the people what

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Speaker 1: they want is the role of professional wrestling. Not journalism, Sydney.

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Speaker 1: What was Since when is this podcast journalism? We're a

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Speaker 1: name of journalist. We're a narrative based group. We are

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Speaker 1: not narrative based. That's some other podcast in this building. Wow,

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Speaker 1: last fired up for a man wearing a like a

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Speaker 1: Perry Mason button up. You're very fired up right now,

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Speaker 1: first career cardigan. I've never worn a cardigan before. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about it because you are once again an establishment

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Speaker 1: fixated on my shirt, right, and not only wearing the

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Speaker 1: a button up cardigan. Um, you also have what looks

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Speaker 1: to be a brand new white T shirt. I'm taking

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Speaker 1: a picture of it the share with people used after

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Speaker 1: we we finished today. It looks very nice. You look sharp,

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Speaker 1: As my father would say, you look shop Danny. But

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Speaker 1: also I've never seen you in and off it like this. Again,

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Speaker 1: more evolution from West in a relationship. It was presented

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Speaker 1: to me and the corner office downstairs, which contains a

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Speaker 1: shadowy league figure I believe has issues with the way

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Speaker 1: I dressed sometimes that I wore a hoodie on TV.

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Speaker 1: Andrew Siciliana also took a shot at me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: for wearing a hoodie, which I proposed was perfectly fitting

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Speaker 1: for a Bill Belichick segment. I agree with you. I

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Speaker 1: didn't know he was taking Were they taking shots of

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Speaker 1: the man? Cat actually did on Twitter. It's if you

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Speaker 1: don't want to take shots at the cannon, you don't

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Speaker 1: bring a piece you due to a cannon fight. It happened.

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Speaker 1: It's not like what West though too, take shots and

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Speaker 1: then just fold you know what I mean to just

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Speaker 1: buckle and say, I guess I gotta go card again.

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Speaker 1: I don't have like prepped vengeance drops on a podcast.

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Speaker 1: I just get my vengeance. I like it. Wes, You're

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Speaker 1: a badass big show today, Like Today's show. I can

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Speaker 1: get behind Today's show. Can't always say that. Sometimes I

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Speaker 1: get up here and while one of you guys is

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Speaker 1: just making some point, I'm thinking to myself, Damn, I

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Speaker 1: can't get behind this show today, this show, but today's

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Speaker 1: show we did. The tell tale part of that is

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Speaker 1: when you then repeat something we just said, like right afterwards.

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Speaker 1: That's when we know you're not invested in I was

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Speaker 1: doing a bit, but now you're turning into an attack

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Speaker 1: on me. Um, do you want a pre show? So

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Speaker 1: it's nice to have a call back to the pre

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Speaker 1: show grade every once in a while. Some good news

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Speaker 1: to get to second week of unofficially this is the

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Speaker 1: second week of free agency, so there's some good names

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Speaker 1: still out there, some names that came back uh into

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Speaker 1: the UH fold with a former teams or current teams.

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Speaker 1: What that didn't make sense anyway? Uh, some good news

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Speaker 1: to talk about a new segment that we haven't done afore.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. Um damn that this is not

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Speaker 1: a good grade though the other stuff too, you're excited about.

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Speaker 1: That was the last thing you were excited about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: usually I want to go higher, but in this guy,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the B minus. So a lot

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Speaker 1: know what that is, UH, that is, say you're you're

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Speaker 1: had class in session about themselves. That's what's happened in

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Speaker 1: the NFL right now with teams. Oh, it's a good

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Speaker 1: thing that we're here to see what entire franchises and

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Speaker 1: organizations cannot see about themselves. Oh there's and there's one

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Speaker 1: other thing coming up today, coming up later. We got them.

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Speaker 1: Mark Sessler's text returns, Hey, what's this guy hide again? Anyway,

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Speaker 1: there's another part to this. I was yesterday, my off day,

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Speaker 1: and you know, early evening, this news from you comes

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Speaker 1: over attached to a hideous photo of me. Hideous, pretty hideous,

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Speaker 1: And I thought, what's what's the other side to this?

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Speaker 1: So what's wrong with that photo? I don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: like a grainy sort of a granualized It was a

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Speaker 1: I got dirt on this guy. He's not as squeaky

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Speaker 1: clean as you thought. Bring it on. I'm excited to

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Speaker 1: find out what you have on me. Bumping it up

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Speaker 1: tax returns coming up later today. But let's do it, said,

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Speaker 1: Let's get into some news. Yes, Pete Carroll, we'll get

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Speaker 1: to that in a moment. We'll start though. On the

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Speaker 1: throne of ease, I mean again, yep, Danta high Tower

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Speaker 1: staying in New England. Linebacker his agent announced on Wednesday

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Speaker 1: Patriots worth forty three and a half million over four years,

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Speaker 1: nineteen million guaranteed. According to rap Sheet. That won't win

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Speaker 1: This is this is the Patriots approach. They did it

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Speaker 1: less money, but we're not gonna insult you with the

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Speaker 1: offered him more money twelve million dollars a Year's an

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Speaker 1: the NBA and Lebron James and Dwyane Wade started this thing.

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Speaker 1: But this idea of where now rivals will come together

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Speaker 1: It's He's also the one guy of their core defensive

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Speaker 1: players that they did resign. The other ones are elsewhere.

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Speaker 1: the thing, though, that Belichick is the most active trader

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Speaker 1: constantly churning the roster, and his decisions eight out of

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Speaker 1: Thomas Rawls set the franchise record two games ago in

426
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Speaker 1: the playoffs against the lines for rushing yards. That that

427
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Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey can give them something that Thomas Rawls can't.

428
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Speaker 1: And I know that Lacey had the best yards per

429
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Speaker 1: carry of his career last year in a very small

430
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Speaker 1: sample size. I I beg you go watch. You can

431
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: find this on YouTube. You don't need game pass. Go

432
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 1: watch highlight clips of two thouteen Eddie Lacy when he's

433
00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: thirty or forty pounds less and his footwork is exceptional.

434
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: He is not that back anymore. Well, the deal has

435
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Speaker 1: three million guaranteed, and Pete Carroll has always been of

436
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 1: the velocity. More running backs the better, Like Bill Belichick's right,

437
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: they have ten on the ross. I don't think it

438
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: has much to do with Rawls. They showed last year

439
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: you need running back. Rawls is one of the most

440
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Speaker 1: injury prone guys out there. Pro Sis is coming off

441
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Speaker 1: an injury, probably not a three D touch type of guy.

442
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 1: Lacey's you know, kind of on and off. So why

443
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Speaker 1: not just add another talented guy? Carol. Carol talked openly

444
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Speaker 1: about their being competition at the end of the year,

445
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Speaker 1: and so I don't think they have a clear number one.

446
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: We know that. And he also sounded very concerned before

447
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Speaker 1: that final press conference about pro sises overall during ability.

448
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: And I think there's legit reasons to look at all

449
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,120
Speaker 1: any of the guy that would be carrying the load

450
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,719
Speaker 1: there would be that Lacey's had of himself though. So

451
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: it's but it's a it's a nice Seahawks type running.

452
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: But let's not forget the other part of this though.

453
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey is at a crossroads in his career. Uh.

454
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Speaker 1: It was reported that in one of the free agent

455
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Speaker 1: visits he took, which were all around the same time,

456
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Speaker 1: he weighed into two sixty seven pounds. And that's what

457
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll said. I want to big and I'm fine

458
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Speaker 1: with it. And Marshaw Lynch played at two forty and

459
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Speaker 1: all that, but that is a big boy. I think

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Speaker 1: he was listed at two thirty four. Watch I don't

461
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Speaker 1: think he ever was last year maybe during his p

462
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Speaker 1: N I d X hight gran Mark which a little

463
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Speaker 1: shot against the p N d X industry. That he's

464
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Speaker 1: to sixty seven right now. Well, I mean I think

465
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Speaker 1: with anything you do, some of these guys metabolism wise

466
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Speaker 1: or habits wise. You know, weight is added on more easily,

467
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Speaker 1: but you gotta stick with it. You can't do something

468
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Speaker 1: for three weeks. He gets down to a certain weight

469
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Speaker 1: and then you just ditch it all and you go

470
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Speaker 1: back to whatever your habits were before. I don't know

471
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Speaker 1: what should he what he's doing right now? Should he

472
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Speaker 1: inch towards body by Audrina? Your new your new obsession

473
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,359
Speaker 1: that is not an obsession of mind at all. He's

474
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Speaker 1: currently I believe he was doing a good It's not

475
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: a good advertisement for the Fix, but that is It's

476
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: a real thing though, because the twenty one days ends,

477
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,800
Speaker 1: then it's twenty one days is over. It's like you

478
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Speaker 1: need to keep you had to have a maintaining regimen.

479
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: I mean, West you you tweeted out that article about

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Speaker 1: Lacey profile about him back in his rookie year, Tyler Dunn.

481
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Speaker 1: He I think he's a different type of guy. I

482
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Speaker 1: mean he's a He's a guy who I think needs

483
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Speaker 1: to search for his love for football. Or he sounded

484
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: like a depressed guy, like he never really gotten over

485
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: what had happened with Hurricane Katrina and and Hurricane Katrina

486
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Speaker 1: broke his heart. He was heartbroken and I don't think

487
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Speaker 1: he's ever recovered from it. And this is an excellent article.

488
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Speaker 1: If if any of the listeners want to search Tyler Dunne,

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Speaker 1: I believe it was the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and Eddie

490
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Speaker 1: Lacy and Hurricane Katrina. You'll find the art cool. It's

491
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: a really really well written article. Uh, let's move on

492
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,959
Speaker 1: one last thing about do the Seahawks deserve the benefit

493
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Speaker 1: of the doubt when it comes to their offensive line

494
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: and running game anymore? This is a team giving uh

495
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: Luke jokele eight million for one year and the every

496
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: year we we give them the benefit of the doubt.

497
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Speaker 1: You'll fix it, you'll figure it out. I don't know

498
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Speaker 1: if they will anymore. I don't know what's going on there.

499
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Speaker 1: I I don't think they've ever They don't deserve it.

500
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Speaker 1: With the offensive line. I mean they that has been

501
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 1: They've been trying to fix that for five six years now.

502
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: They've done it. They've tried to do it different types

503
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: of ways, and none of them have worked. Yeah, their philosophies,

504
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: which had had it worked, it would have been you know,

505
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: a revolutionary. We rethink how you build lines and stuff.

506
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: But it's not and you can't just magically cook up

507
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Speaker 1: an offensive line, especially at the tackle positions. Triplet triplet,

508
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Speaker 1: triplet triplet. No. Julius Thomas, the new Miami Dolphins tight end,

509
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 1: signed a big deal with the Jaguars two years ago

510
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: and then was hurt constantly, looks slow. He definitely wasn't

511
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: on the body by what is it? It is called

512
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 1: the twenty one day fix. Where am I getting the

513
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: body by your dream? I have no idea. What's the

514
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: name of the woman that autumn caliber? There are no

515
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: men named autumn autumn calibre. It's not body by Autumn though,

516
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: it's SAMs, something entirely different. So Julius he looked, He

517
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: looked like a big boy with the Jaguars and couldn't

518
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Speaker 1: stay healthy. But guess what, Julius Thomas wants you to

519
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: know that all of his injury problems are now behind him.

520
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: Here's his quote. I don't really have any handicaps, anything

521
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: that will hold me back, Thomas said v of Miami Herald.

522
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: I feel really good. I know that I'll be able

523
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Speaker 1: to play at the highest level I played in my career.

524
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: So what a what a move by the Dolphins. They're

525
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Speaker 1: getting obviously gonna get fifteen touchdowns from Julius Thomas. Will

526
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,160
Speaker 1: be the the old one with Peyton Manning. It's done, done deal,

527
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: great signal it seal it up, lock it up, and

528
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: we're rolling in the Pro Bowl. Talk about father time

529
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 1: never lose in a battle. I mean, Julius Thomas can

530
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: control whether he gets injured or not on a football field. Well,

531
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: what how is that possible? Maybe he's on that twenty

532
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: one day body by Adrina. I don't appreciate the knocks

533
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: on this uh workout. That's not a back at very well,

534
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: that's not a knock at all. Eddie Lacy might not

535
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: be a great advertisement, but Mark Sessler is a walking billboard.

536
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: I want to go. I need to start it. After

537
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: looking at Mark's body, I haven't. I have a free

538
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: set of DVDs. I'll in it too. You hello body,

539
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 1: very good fire. Next topic? What was that? Next topic?

540
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: Let's move on coming up later. Got you Mark Sessler's

541
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 1: tax returns they call Mr Boone because he's got so

542
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: many skeletons in his closet. Stay tuned, all right, you

543
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: know what, we'll have to see what this is about.

544
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: But this feels nonsensical to me. They often Rachel Rachel Maddow, Well,

545
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 1: did you check that out? I refused to watch it

546
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: on TV because I knew it was gonna be the

547
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: biggest dud in the media? Hot tag you should have

548
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: took that? Is that even hot? Like? Didn't everybody know

549
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 1: it was gonna be a dud? What is a two

550
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 1: thousand five tax return gonna possibly show? That's my question

551
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 1: for Dan if that's what he's attempting to do to me. Coincidentally,

552
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: the one I have procured also two thousand five. The

553
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: Russians more involved in Marx? How is it gonna pay

554
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 1: taxes when he doesn't have a job? Moving on, did

555
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: you not have a job? Let's just say I might

556
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 1: have a defender in the room that can, you know,

557
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: help me out if I need some talking to on

558
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: your part? I don't know. Let's move on. The Minnesota

559
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: Vikings have signed wide receiver Adam Feeling to a three year,

560
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: seventeen million contract with eleven million guaranteed. Nice little season,

561
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: Adams coming a nice little contract for Adam Feeling coming

562
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: off a season where you finished with sixty sixty nine

563
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: catches for nearly a thousand yards of fourteen yards per reception,

564
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: five touched, five touchdowns, was scheduled for restricted free agency um,

565
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 1: but the Vikings want to make sure they kept them around.

566
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: So now you got what you got the wide receiver corps,

567
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: you got La Quantred Well, whatever is going on there?

568
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: You got stuff on Diggs. You like him. He's a

569
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 1: nice piece and a Theland. What do you think about

570
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: this move? Mark? Well, we just talked about Thomas Rawls

571
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: being two games removed from a career game. It was

572
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: Theland whose two games removed from having two hundred and

573
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: two yards against the Packers defense. I I think Theland

574
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: we all grew to like am more as the season

575
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: went on, in about four hundred yards over the last

576
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 1: five weeks of the year, an integral part of their

577
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: passing game. An impressive guy. Of course, you ressign them

578
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: in my book, lad all wide receivers in catch percentage

579
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: on deep balls last year seventy four, seventy four percent

580
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: catch rate. It's exceptional. You need you need one more receiver.

581
00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: But that's a nice twosome right there. I mean, that's

582
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: a that is a story to be a local tryout

583
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: guy that got a seventeen million dollar contract that just

584
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: does not. I don't know, there's not that many. And

585
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: you know the last from Germany that didn't quite the

586
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: mobile come back to us. I know that the enlightened

587
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: sports don't. I know the enlightened sports writers of America

588
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: have determined that you're no longer allowed to compare white

589
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: receivers to white receivers. But there is a lot of

590
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson to his game. They also need Treadwell, who

591
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: had one catch last year two, you know, live up

592
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: to the draft stock at overall pick. We said there's

593
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: one they're missing a guy. Hypothetically, it's the guy that

594
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: they invested our first round pick and he needs to

595
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: make um a big, big leap in year two. Is

596
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: he gonna be making the leap candidate? Probably not, would

597
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: be my guest. You gotta show a little bit of something,

598
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 1: not unless who want to know. I mean that record

599
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: with that series to continue, and this is a smart move.

600
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: I don't think the vikingsvet a very good offseason, but

601
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,719
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's get making less than Marcus Wheaton.

602
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: He's getting making way less than Kenny Stills and and

603
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: the other guys that signed as a nice deal. We

604
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: haven't killed making the leap. Yet it is a horse

605
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: that has been beaten on the ground for well, it's

606
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: gotta it's gotta stick around for Chase. You know, the

607
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: original making the leap, number thirty nine third seen Chase Daniel.

608
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen in the medal ends this year. It's

609
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: gonna happen. By the way, I like the anytime you

610
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: wanta dig in west On the e s a the

611
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: enlightened Sports Writers of America, let us know, give us

612
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: a little like take a little peel back the curtain.

613
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: It's you know what, fifteen years ago when the first

614
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: person mentioned it, maybe we shouldn't all be comparing these

615
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: guys to the same race. It was great, and now

616
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: the group think has shifted entirely the other direction, and

617
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: the pitchforks and torches come out if you dare say

618
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 1: that cool Beasley plays a little bit like West Welker.

619
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: It's a good point. And yet it's not some uncomfortable

620
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: it's not totally been rooted out. There was someone there

621
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: was a Patriots fam I'm not gonna say who it

622
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: was in our office that compared Uh, it was you,

623
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: wasn't it, Chris Hogan? You know, compared Chris Hogan to

624
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: to Julian Edelman and and come on, well you've just

625
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 1: called someone out. Someone's going to figure out that story

626
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: and it's gonna get back to them. I'm just saying,

627
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: you know, he's not this little you know, we got

628
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: all these little guys in the slot. No, he's a

629
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: he's a huge physical receiver. It goes deep. That is

630
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: That is the example. Uh, sorry about that, Kevin Petra,

631
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,719
Speaker 1: here's a here's a fun little story. UM. The NFL

632
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: released UM two agents and others across the league their

633
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: UH performance based pay system, Like of every player in

634
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: the league on all thirty two teams, how much players

635
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: got based on playing time and the player there was

636
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: one player got the fewest dollars of anyone in the league.

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Speaker 1: It was a name that we might be familiar with.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about him a lot on this podcast in

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Speaker 1: the last oh hell four years, but the last few

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Speaker 1: months especially. Tony Romo played one series. Mark, do you

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Speaker 1: remember what happened in that one series for Tony Romo?

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Speaker 1: This year? Believe you let him let him to a touchdown.

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Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, he did. He was three or four,

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Speaker 1: uh through for like thirty yards and a touchdown and

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Speaker 1: four that baked into his contract. He got sixty four

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Speaker 1: dollars and eleven cents for that. What that was in

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Speaker 1: his contract based on playing time? Interesting, I want to

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Speaker 1: hear some other fun nugs A little low sixty four

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Speaker 1: bucks to lead a team on a touchdown drive in

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixteen NFL season, A little low

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Speaker 1: you know who got the second most money in performance

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Speaker 1: bonus Dak Prescott he got three fifty five thousand because

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Speaker 1: he started every game. Reggie Bush, he had a negative

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Speaker 1: rushing yardage total last year, still took home over fourteen

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars for his efforts from This is from the league.

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Speaker 1: It's not in your contract. It's from the league's you know,

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Speaker 1: performance pay system. So there's no value judgment. They're just

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Speaker 1: like Tony you you earned that. Extracits actually pays the

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Speaker 1: team's back for this. Yeah, it's supposed to help out

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Speaker 1: guys essentially underpaid on their rookie contracts. So, for instance,

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Speaker 1: the Patriots rookie uh center David Andrews got an extra

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Speaker 1: four dollars, one of the highest numbers I believe on

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Speaker 1: this um list that basically doubled this salary and he

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Speaker 1: didn't even know it was coming. Pat Panthers reserve guard

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Speaker 1: Ryan Wendel played a single snap on special teams and

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Speaker 1: seventy cents. Not bad that Reggie bush Cash is like

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Speaker 1: an Osweiler level heist. Didn't he average negative yards per

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Speaker 1: carry for the season? He did negative yard I knew

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Speaker 1: you weren't listening to me before. For getting negative zero

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Speaker 1: point seven yards percar. Here's the ultimate skin. Really, it

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Speaker 1: really ruins his whole. Like Pro Football Reference and ESPN

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Speaker 1: stats that the last number that you'll see from Reggie

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Speaker 1: Busch is negative three. And he yeah, his name is

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Speaker 1: not popped up in free Agency's Chase Daniel, by the way,

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Speaker 1: who got seven million dollars last season to throw one pass.

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Speaker 1: So he got seven million, and he also gets an

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Speaker 1: additional two hundred and twenty eight dollars and twelve cents.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's good take home pay for throwing one pass.

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Speaker 1: Seven million dollars two the going rate for producing five

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Speaker 1: to six hundred podcasts a year and writing upwards of

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Speaker 1: three thousand articles. You don't want to know, you do know,

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Speaker 1: Actually two and twenty eight dollars is like one night

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Speaker 1: at the bar in l a um. And finally, I

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Speaker 1: want to see what Mark would look like after three

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Speaker 1: thousand articles. I'll show you. Go look at my author

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Speaker 1: page about that. Justin Hunter. Uh was he a former

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Speaker 1: second like fifteen a day? You know, well that's called

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Speaker 1: two thousand twelve. Yeah, Justin Hunter. Yes, old second round

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Speaker 1: pick of the Titans, the tattoon Uh Burmer making the

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Speaker 1: leap once compared to Randy Moss. Anyway, Justin I just

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Speaker 1: bouncing around the league a little bit. Uh. In his career,

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Speaker 1: he has a seventy eight catches for yards and twelve

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Speaker 1: touchdowns in four seasons and he so not a great

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Speaker 1: prolific career, but he's he's staying in the business. He

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Speaker 1: just signed a deal with the Steelers, which propped this

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Speaker 1: tweet that Mark really are that Greg really got to

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Speaker 1: kick out of The story isn't finished just yet, ashtags

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Speaker 1: Steelers Nation. I mean, it's one of the greatest stories

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Speaker 1: ever told. Who thought we were getting an epilogue? Got

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Speaker 1: this one. People were waiting, people were waiting, it's coming back.

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Speaker 1: He combines Martavis Bryant with Sammy Coates hands God forbid.

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Speaker 1: The guy believes in himself I mean, come on, Mark, story,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna get behind this tweet in a

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Speaker 1: big spot. I'm just saying, you know, he's getting absolutely

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Speaker 1: destroyed on the show for having some sort of self

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Speaker 1: confidence in his abilities. You hate when people have too

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Speaker 1: much confidence. That's money. This this didn't. This seemed like,

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Speaker 1: you know, a fair level amount of Hey, everyone has

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Speaker 1: given up on me. I have not given up on myself.

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Speaker 1: There's something equivalent if you like, worked at a gas

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Speaker 1: station and then you got let go, and then you

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Speaker 1: you caught on as a bus boy and Friday's yeah right,

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Speaker 1: and then then over in the corner of the restaurant

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Speaker 1: grag Greg is giggling at you and then giggling at

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Speaker 1: your career. You went to your Facebook page the story

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Speaker 1: isn't finished just yet. That would be ridicting Friday. You

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Speaker 1: wrote a memoir called the Story Isn't Finished, the tale

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Speaker 1: as old as time. Well, he's a millionaire and where not?

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Speaker 1: So he wins. I have some breaking news, Wow, Marks,

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Speaker 1: probably before reading this article in Popular Science and no,

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Speaker 1: listen to this. Humpback whales are now organizing in huge

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Speaker 1: numbers and nobody knows why. In weird parts of the world.

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Speaker 1: Scientists have never seen more than fifteen or two men,

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Speaker 1: humpback males, bumpback whales together, and now they are arranging

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Speaker 1: in groups of two hundred or more. I saw a

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Speaker 1: Simpsons episode about this. That doesn't sound good. When the

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Speaker 1: dolphins rose up against the people of Springfield and took

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Speaker 1: over the world, I think Mother Nature is gearing up

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Speaker 1: for a fight. Yeah, why don't. Let's let's keep, you know,

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Speaker 1: worrying about Wave three of the Free Agency. That's more

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Speaker 1: important than this. You know, Sully's back in the building.

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Speaker 1: By the way, everybody loves Sully, and he's feeling good.

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Speaker 1: This is his third tour duty. He's coming into our

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Speaker 1: ears telling us about some movies. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: what you're talking about, Sully. Can you put them on

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Speaker 1: the Kansas second guy like, yeah, you're talking about Simpsons

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Speaker 1: and the Dolphins, Hitchhiker's Guide, The Dolphins take over the World.

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Speaker 1: I do believe I didn't see that, you guys, I knew.

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Speaker 1: I knew Cessor had had my back on that. I

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Speaker 1: have not seen it, but I have your back in theory. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right, that's I mean, it's an I haven't read

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Speaker 1: the books. That's like Ancessler slogan. Right there, I have

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Speaker 1: your they mean, yeah, you know, I can't speak to

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Speaker 1: it. It It sounds like good fine filmy. So it's good

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Speaker 1: to have you back. Good, good to be back, fells,

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Speaker 1: good to talk to you guys. He's coming in hot though.

747
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Speaker 1: He's back on his first day. Daniel Jeremiah hadn't even

748
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Speaker 1: said hello to him, and he comes in with like

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Speaker 1: three different podcast ideas. I'm not going to be ignored.

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah is just like, what did you say? What did

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Speaker 1: you say? I'm not going to be ignored? Um? That Sully'

752
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: is like coming in like it's senior year of high school.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like fatal attraction. Drop might have been

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Speaker 1: Glenn Close. I won't be ignored. That's like some boiling rabbits.

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Speaker 1: Let's not let's not put it on the Shadowy League

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Speaker 1: figures radar. Sorry, Um yeah, that's senior year. Look, he's

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Speaker 1: even he's coming in and out of the room behind

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Speaker 1: the glass clearly does not have a lot of work

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Speaker 1: to do downstairs. It's like it's all up to all

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Speaker 1: his classes are electives. He's already like, um, he's going

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Speaker 1: to college. He knows where he's going. He's going to

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Speaker 1: sunny Buffalo. He's all locked in. I organized my classes

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Speaker 1: last semester of college where I only had classes Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: It was an absolute coupe eta over the school system.

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Speaker 1: Sally's on the eight and skate program coming for eight

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Speaker 1: hours and skate right out the door. All right, that's

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Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. And Mark, sorry that we

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Speaker 1: got on your boy Justin hunter a little bit there. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, I I wasn't going to bring it up,

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Speaker 1: but there was that met that specific making the leap

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Speaker 1: west and Greg. It was sort of a he said,

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Speaker 1: he said things where they both debated their their future.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know who had what side, but someone's

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Speaker 1: not right. I think I had I think I had

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Speaker 1: the wrong side. I had the pro Justin Hunters. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the wrong side. But little did we know that, Greg,

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Speaker 1: would you know, take it out on Justin Hunter by

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Speaker 1: you know, laughing and giggling at him and shredding him

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Speaker 1: as a human. That's that's a fair point by Mark.

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Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways. Supported you in the

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Speaker 1: in the good times. Here's the good news of You

782
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Speaker 1: also wrote the Chase Daniel making the leap, so he's

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Speaker 1: still got him potentially as a starter of the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets in a few months. I got Gina Smith

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Speaker 1: is out there too. He's out there. I meant clinging

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Speaker 1: on to that one out there is a nice way

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Speaker 1: to put it. Talk about an advertisement to end that

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Speaker 1: series on NFL dot com. Did you read, by the

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Speaker 1: way the New York Daily News Minish meta takedown? You

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Speaker 1: know Smith takedown cold blooded, my cold bleed. I think

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Speaker 1: that reflected worse than Minisina Smith. We've had Minish on

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Speaker 1: the show before he takes He'll take on the anybody

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Speaker 1: in the Jets. He's kind of like the way Frank

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Speaker 1: Ayasol is for the Daily News or maybe the ESPN

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Speaker 1: now no Daily News. I think wherever he is for

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Speaker 1: the Knicks and and Knick's ownership is trying to keep

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Speaker 1: him out of the building. At this point, Minish don't care.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he took the flamethrow if you just want to,

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Speaker 1: if you want to read the column where a player

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Speaker 1: is eviscerated like you've never seen before, there were no survivors.

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Speaker 1: Was like Greg Rosenthal and Justin Hunter. I think I'm

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Speaker 1: skating free on this one. All right, let's next segment,

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Speaker 1: mag niv go what teams are telling us without even

804
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: realizing it? And you have to be you have to

805
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: have a keen eye for for the ways of the world.

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00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: You know, the football cognis sent the They like to

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00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: think they know what's going on. But this is a

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Speaker 1: segment that shows that we are not just a narrative

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Speaker 1: based podcast. West. We are peeling back the layers of

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Speaker 1: the onion to let you know what's really happening with

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Speaker 1: these teams. And by no means are you to go back,

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Speaker 1: uh in midway through the season and listen to this

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Speaker 1: show again. Just assume that what we're about to say

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Speaker 1: is right. We have cracked the case with these teams

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Speaker 1: before the season is even a twinkle in the eye

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Speaker 1: of these teams because these moves that they've made in

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Speaker 1: free agency. We're about to tell you what's going on

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00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: with the teams they don't even know it yet. Mark,

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Speaker 1: do you want to get us going? No, okay, West,

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Speaker 1: would you like to get us I've got a couple,

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Speaker 1: all right, get us going. Drop a lot of Ravil

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Speaker 1: mcnive go on us. John Fox is already fired. Well,

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Speaker 1: Why are you even playing out the season? Chicago Bearsie

824
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: downgraded almost across the board, and everything you tried to do,

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Speaker 1: you got Marcus Sweeten and Kenda right coming into replace

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Speaker 1: Elshan Jeffrey. Mike Glennon is not as good as Jay Cutler.

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Speaker 1: You might be. I don't know, as Dion sims the

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Speaker 1: answer at tight end, what's going on there? How is

829
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Speaker 1: this gonna go from a team that couldn't win more

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Speaker 1: than a handful of games last year the one that's

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Speaker 1: gonna flirt with five hundred. I don't see it, John Fox,

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Speaker 1: pack your bags. One of the one of the great

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Speaker 1: shocks in the history of the show is that the

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Speaker 1: coach of the team that Mike Lennon signed with will

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Speaker 1: be fired, according to West, huge shocker right there. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying you're wrong, Hey, I think you're saying they

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Speaker 1: and Mike Glennon best can see that. Turns out they

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Speaker 1: think that they're trying to compete, and you're saying they're

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Speaker 1: not competed. Yeah. The law, Robbio Magnifico is you're probably

840
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Speaker 1: even worse than you were last year. And I know

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Speaker 1: you're trying to save jobs, but it ain't gonna way.

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Speaker 1: They think they've upgraded their roster, they think they've gotten

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Speaker 1: a younger, better quarterback. At this stage, they have overpaid

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Speaker 1: for every other team's disappointments, and I don't see that

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Speaker 1: as a way. Well, Mike Glennon wasn't a disappointment for

846
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: the Bucks. I think, how do you how can you

847
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: even say that? He started two years then they then

848
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: they drafted Jameis Winston to replace him. He absolutely was

849
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: a disappointment. They teams don't go out of their way

850
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: to try to pay a disappointment eight to nine million

851
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: dollars to not pay They liked him, but or they

852
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: or they don't trust as well, they wanted to pay

853
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 1: him to be number three. I agree, I essentially agree

854
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: that the downgraded could Mike Glennon and have be better

855
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 1: than Jake Cutler long term? Of course I think he could.

856
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: He's played eight teen games in his first two years.

857
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: I think, just deciding we know exactly what's going to

858
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: happen from here on out, it's a little early. What

859
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: are the odds, I'm saying, what are the odds that

860
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: he's better than Cutler? This year? Yet it's not. It's

861
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,879
Speaker 1: not just the quarterback position. You take out the five

862
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and Bears fans have had one of the

863
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: roughest roads around and it's undersold. I don't think that

864
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: the ownership group in Chicago cares about winning the way

865
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: that some others do. I really do not, and that's

866
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: I agree with the West Foxes that Fox to some

867
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: degree is the victim of what I think the whole

868
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: team is doing, and it's not acting in a competitive manner.

869
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: It's strange because I think Ryan Paced, the general manager,

870
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: and Fox know that their jobs are on the line.

871
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: So I think these are the moves done by a

872
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: group that knows their jobs on the line, and this

873
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: this was the You have to be given sign off

874
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: to spend money in certain ways, you have to have

875
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: an owner that's in there. It says they're spending money.

876
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: That's not an argument. I just think that you did not.

877
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they did not go out. I like Glennon

878
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: to some more than some do, but I don't think

879
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: that you went out and reached for this for the

880
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,479
Speaker 1: absolute sky with your quarterback solution. I will throw out

881
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: another Houston Texans are they're in a spot, uh and

882
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: they they know it. I mean they realize that they

883
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: bang themselves with brock Oswidler, and they were willing to

884
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: um send him too the Browns just to get him

885
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: out of the building. But now what they're doing is

886
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: and I don't think they've made any formal overtures about

887
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: how much they want to in a room. I guess

888
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 1: they can't because he's under contract with another team. But

889
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 1: everyone knows what's going on here. They've got Tom Savage

890
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: currently in line to be the team starting quarterback, and

891
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: this is a team that otherwise is really set up

892
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: to make a run in the a f C. They

893
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 1: have a chance, especially with j. J. Watt coming back

894
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: to David Clowney the way he played last year. They

895
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: have some really good defensive players in the mix there, obviously,

896
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: but what are they doing. They are essentially praying for

897
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: a Tony Romo safety net here to save their season.

898
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: And having a safety net that is Tony Romo is

899
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: like having a safety net with a hole in the

900
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: center of it. Because Tony Romo is thirty seven years old,

901
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: he's thrown four passes in almost two years. There is

902
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: no guarantee that he is a guy that can do

903
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: anything for you. Uh, in terms of carrying a team

904
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: deep into the season or into the playoffs. And yet

905
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: I feel like those Texans, they're putting themselves in a

906
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:30,720
Speaker 1: position here where they're either gonna be not even thought

907
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: of as even an also ran this season, or they're

908
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: gonna be get Romo and everyone's gonna say, oh, this

909
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: guy is uh with this team is has the ability

910
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 1: to take down the Patriots in a big spot. But

911
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: putting all your eggs on the Tony Romo basket and

912
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: the year ten there is not a bigger risk in

913
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: the league right now. I don't even think the Texans

914
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: realize how much of a risk they're taking by this

915
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: being their only route towards the Super Bowl. So the

916
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: basket is made out of Tony rome and the eggs

917
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: are in there. And also the Texans are the flying

918
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: will Nder Brothers and Tony Romo is the safety net

919
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: with a hole in it. Mixed metaphors. Let's mix them up.

920
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: Let's have some fun. They both work, Let's have some

921
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: fun they I think they have put themselves in a

922
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: corner where they have to get Romo. Everyone knows that

923
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: the Cowboys know it, which is why they're holding onto him.

924
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna work. That the Texans and

925
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: theoretically the Broncos have done a nice job kind of

926
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: calling their bluff and I think the Texans are going

927
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: to get a chance to give him money and that's

928
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. I mean, they're sneak sneakily the most

929
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: desperate team in the league. When you when this is

930
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: this is this is where you've resorted to and it

931
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 1: all it's it is the trickle down effect of what

932
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: if you get him too or just risky that you

933
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 1: might not get him. It's risky that your entire organization

934
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: now is based around the hope that Tony Romo picks

935
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: you or you're able to facilitate a move to get

936
00:48:56,080 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: him into the building. That is tremendously risky. Uh in

937
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 1: the year seventeen to ask Romo to basically make your season.

938
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: But what I like though, because yeah, they're opening themselves

939
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 1: up for a lot of critique if they don't get

940
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: Romo and depending what else shakes out at the position.

941
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,720
Speaker 1: But how often, whether it's in sports or politics, whatever,

942
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: people make a mistake and they just dig in, they

943
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: don't acknowledge it. I love that they got out of

944
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: this Osweiler contract. Anyway they needed to do, we'd be

945
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: killing them all off season and deep in the next year.

946
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: If they stuck around with Brock and because you took it,

947
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: you swung for the fences with Osweiler and it didn't

948
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,480
Speaker 1: work out. I don't think that you stop taking chances

949
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: at the most important position. I think you go get Romo.

950
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm just saying they aren't a fix. But

951
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 1: your other option is that they do something. What would

952
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: I guess the safe move would be to go get

953
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, But it's safe and it's also a non

954
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: galvanizing move. And we know what Jay Cutler's ceiling is.

955
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 1: And if move would have been holding onto Oswald, what

956
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 1: the safe move would have been holding onto which I'm

957
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: very glad that they didn't think that showed mocks you

958
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: to get out of the situation they were in. It's

959
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: funny that the in our podcast prep meeting, we wondered

960
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: how long will it take before Bill O'Brien does the

961
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen version of both those kids Can Play.

962
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: While we were recording the podcast, we get an email

963
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: James Palmer just said a hit on NFL Network, saying

964
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien is very comfortable with the notion of Tom

965
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: Savage starting for the same Well, you say that, but

966
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,879
Speaker 1: this is a team that constantly I'm saying, and they're

967
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: now waiting to find out if they gets they can't

968
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: say Tom Savage is not a starting quarterback and then

969
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: you get That's that's why I like the Romo thing,

970
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: because you do have Savage, and we you know, we

971
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: can make fun of him. We haven't seen him play yet.

972
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: I think the Texans do like him. The Texans did

973
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: make the playoffs with Brock Oswiler and you know a

974
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: little bit Tom Savage. They made the playoffs with Brian Hoyer.

975
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: So I think if the worst case scenario is Romo

976
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: gets hurt and you have Savage, it's like, Okay, we're

977
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:55,360
Speaker 1: just back to where we're the last two years, where

978
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: were a playoff team just purgatory though, I mean, they're

979
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: not really a real but it's better. It's better than

980
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 1: a lot of places that wish they were in purgatory

981
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 1: and people are getting fired and the and the Texans

982
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: are lucky that at the end of the day, it's

983
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: a it's a complicated situation they're in, but they're lucky

984
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 1: when you whip the way they whipped the brock Osler.

985
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: And we talked about this when the signing happened, this

986
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: idea that if you're if you're wrong about this guy,

987
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: you're basically you're fired. Screwed. Well, you're fired and you

988
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: screw your franchise for a few years because it leaves

989
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: you in nothing. And then what do you do. You

990
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: have to wait out this guy's contract. They're able to

991
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: get rid of his contract, and now you have this

992
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: borderline Hall of Fame quarterback that might have something left

993
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: in the tech and you might have a chance to

994
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:34,399
Speaker 1: wipe out Oswelder entirely. So they're lucky, but also it's

995
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: still really rich if it works out for them. The

996
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: the entire a f C South should not be happy

997
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: with the Browns. They're lucky there was a team out

998
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: there willing to make a bizarre trade for brock Osweilder

999
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: over under um half one half brock Oswallder starts for

1000
00:51:52,120 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 1: the Browns. The Vikings have revealed they have no clue

1001
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 1: what they're doing on the offensive line, They never have,

1002
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: and they're just desperate and they're just hoping that throwing

1003
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: money at a problem that they can't fix will work,

1004
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 1: and we'll we'll see if it works. They'll just pick

1005
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: two guys, uh In Mike Ramer's and Riley Reef that

1006
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: are on some of the you know these best free

1007
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 1: agent available list team You guys, other teams don't want

1008
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,359
Speaker 1: plug them in at their tackles and just hope that

1009
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: they don't get fired after this year. At this point

1010
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 1: a year ago, we were actually lauding them for signing

1011
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: Andre Smith and Alex Boone because the Vikings were talking about,

1012
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: we gotta get tougher. We don't have an offensive line.

1013
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: We gotta get tougher. Mike. We were like, wow, Mike

1014
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: Zimmers really on top of things here. Though Andre saith

1015
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: no longer on the team, their offensive line was I

1016
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: would say the worst in a bad league of offensive lines,

1017
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 1: I would say they are the worst. And so they

1018
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,479
Speaker 1: looked at the market. They decided to be the team

1019
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: that didn't care, and they just spent all the money

1020
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: they could on below average players and maybe maybe it'll

1021
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: help them, maybe it won't. I don't know what the

1022
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: other options are, but they're saying, we can't coach offensive lines.

1023
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: We don't know what to do with them, we are desperate.

1024
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: Let's just pray. You got to pray just to make

1025
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: it Today big Hammer hit about what the fellow scientists

1026
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: just said. I mean, it's a little he took the

1027
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: gloves off there a little bit. I mean, that's the

1028
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: reigning team of AD I'm just saying, that's what their

1029
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: moves are telling you. Is there telling you we are

1030
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: coming from a source of desperation. We don't know what

1031
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: to do. We're gonna try this. I'm not even really

1032
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 1: blaming them, because what what's their alternatives? They also signed

1033
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: Jake Long last year. It's like they're just keeping trying.

1034
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: They clearly have shown and I think there are some

1035
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,359
Speaker 1: teams like this that they can't coach offensive lines very

1036
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 1: well because I think with the talent that they've had

1037
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: in that building, they probably should have been better over

1038
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: the last few years. So they're just hoping and they're

1039
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: on there like what fourth coordinator in the last you know,

1040
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 1: under third or fourth coordinator in three or four years.

1041
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: They're just hoping that these guys can solve it and

1042
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: save them otherwise. I think this is a group, especially Spielman,

1043
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: that could be in a little bit of trouble. I

1044
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 1: can't manufacture a defense for the Vikings after Gregg just

1045
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: eviscerated them. The analysis was pretty tight. Uh now you

1046
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,920
Speaker 1: you Mark, We're getting to you. But I just I

1047
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,799
Speaker 1: thought that was there some connected tissue. What Greg was

1048
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 1: just talking about? What you had a thought about another

1049
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. Well, we've I mentioned the Bengals

1050
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: and Cardinals as teams that missed their Super Bowl window.

1051
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: And as as they are built right now, the Denver

1052
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: Broncos are right there with them that they have decided

1053
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: that coaching will fix their offensive line issues. And it

1054
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 1: wasn't just past protection. They're run in game disappeared last year.

1055
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 1: They have not fixed their tackle situation at all. They've

1056
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: decided Donald Donald Stevenson might after he was one of

1057
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: the worst right tackles in football last year, he might

1058
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: be one of those, as Vance Joseph said, basketball player

1059
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: type of guys with quick feet who can play left

1060
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 1: tackle with the right coaching. That requires a huge leap

1061
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: of faith. And I don't think they got better. Their

1062
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: run defense fell apart last year. He signed the motto

1063
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 1: dematta pico and a couple of guys. That's not an upgrade.

1064
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the run defense really got

1065
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: much better either. How are the Broncos better in the

1066
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: toughest division in football? We've always praised Alway for really

1067
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,960
Speaker 1: two things which could not make you a better GM,

1068
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: possibly a aggressiveness when needed and be caution or an

1069
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: ability to not be desperate, like for instance, lacked last

1070
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,640
Speaker 1: year with broadcast how HiT's a certain point you let

1071
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: him move on, But in this case it was in activity.

1072
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: You didn't go out and get these guys. Now. The

1073
00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: only thing I'd say is that some of these deals

1074
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: that were handed out to pretty average tackles are insane,

1075
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: some of the money that's out there. But you're right,

1076
00:56:05,960 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with the guys that were

1077
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: there last year? They suddenly going? They were not. It's

1078
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 1: not that they were young first year guys that are developing,

1079
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 1: in many cases aging old veterans that underperformed it. It

1080
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: is early and that's the thing. I don't know what

1081
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: There was no magic solution in these first four or

1082
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: five days, because what is the alternative? Elway goes and

1083
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 1: signed Matt Kalo for thirty million dollars guaranteed or Riley

1084
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: for thirty I mean he he did dip in. I mean,

1085
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: he gave eleven million guaranteed to Menelick Watson was kind

1086
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: of an underrated, you know move, but it's at this

1087
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: point not underrated, but overlooked, like because at this point

1088
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 1: he's their left tackle. I mean, I think they would

1089
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: like to probably get other options or in draft or

1090
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: spent four years trying to replace. That's what I'm saying,

1091
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: all these guys that you're are trying to replace. I'm

1092
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 1: not saying I even find fault with always approach. I'm

1093
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: just saying, this is the state of your roster right now.

1094
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: And as much as I like Trevor Simmeon, we're not

1095
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: talking about it above average quarterback situational here either. So

1096
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: are the Broncos West. The Broncos if I had to

1097
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: predict ANFC West right now, would be my fourth place

1098
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 1: teat Wow. And that I mean so the lat Reveale

1099
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: macniv go here is that the Broncos without realizing they

1100
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: are revealing themselves as and also ran who watched their

1101
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: window closed because they could not build that offensive line.

1102
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 1: I think I would extend it beyond the offensive line

1103
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: to you are Medio grew at best at quarterback and

1104
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: your run defense absolutely got shredded last year. It's not fixed.

1105
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, it is your turn later. Oh we

1106
00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: got Mark Sessler's tax returns. Looks like Mr Squeaky Clean

1107
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: has been hiding a little Greek. Stay tuned. I cannot

1108
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 1: wait to find out what this nonsense is about. I

1109
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: do not have a negative Mr Squeaky Clean, I mean, please,

1110
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: we'll get into it. But by law, reveal is besides

1111
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 1: the tax return situation. Besides that, it's a positive one.

1112
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,959
Speaker 1: No team in sports understands the laws of attraction better

1113
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 1: than the New England Patriots. I will explain why, all right,

1114
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 1: I just came up without a few seconds ago the

1115
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: next thirty minutes of the show. All we're being told

1116
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: now is that the Patriots are so happy with what

1117
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:25,880
Speaker 1: they've done and they are going to make a run

1118
00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: for the title next year, which is you know, we

1119
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: know that already that no way would they part ways

1120
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: with Jimmy G. Jimmy Garoppolo is staying put. But god

1121
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 1: forbid that Tom Brady, who's missed outside of suspension games

1122
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: in one season alone his career, where to go down.

1123
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 1: We'd be just fine with Jimmy G and everything would

1124
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: be there utter nonsense. They don't have a pick before

1125
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: number seventy six. They have laid the deck. They've added

1126
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 1: all these veterans, despite Greg's protestation that they've actually done

1127
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: no more or less than any other team. They are

1128
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: oating the deck with veterans that can help. And they

1129
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 1: understand that Cleveland now out there thinking, we're not just

1130
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: competing against other teams, we're competing against ourselves. If you're

1131
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: the Browns, here's what we thought we were gonna give

1132
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: up for Jimmy G. We're now competing against our former

1133
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: philosophy of what it would take to get them. We're

1134
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: gonna double down offer way more than anyone ever thought.

1135
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: We give up for a guy that started what two games,

1136
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 1: and we are going to completely lace the New England

1137
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: Patriots with a bounty of high picks to go along

1138
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 1: with everything else they've done in free agency. Because the

1139
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: Patriots have played this perfectly, and when you can't have

1140
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: something you want, you do all you can to get it.

1141
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 1: And the Browns think they cannot have Jimmy G now

1142
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: because the patient Patriots have done such a good job

1143
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: of this that Cleveland's gonna give up something they never

1144
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,919
Speaker 1: A couple of months ago. Something no one thought they'd

1145
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,600
Speaker 1: give up a couple of months ago very quickly to

1146
00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: get them. What's the number one law of attraction? We

1147
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: chase that which retreats from us? M M. The Browns

1148
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 1: can't have him, so they want him, they want him

1149
01:00:05,560 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: more and more. It's almost like that was Wes's that

1150
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: was good. See Mark doesn't want to hear that. That's what. No. No,

1151
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He was supporting very eloquently and really made

1152
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 1: a strong point. And he say, oh, that was basically

1153
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He was supporting about an internal monologue. Please, um,

1154
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 1: good one, Mark, You're not gonna like what comes up

1155
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: later in the show though. How much later are we getting?

1156
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 1: And then we're at the doorstep of this segment. Do

1157
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: we want to do one more? Two? Or we should

1158
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: we move on? Should we get out of here? I'm

1159
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: fresh house, I'll throw one out there real quick. And

1160
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: I was just I was watching the Old Football Life

1161
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: of Matt Millen. I was revisiting it, and they talked

1162
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: about what a disaster it was in Detroit and he

1163
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: went from the Fox broadcast booth. He went from a

1164
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: great Hall of Fame level career is he in the

1165
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame as a player, okay, but a great

1166
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: player and some great teams. Uh, to the Fox Booth,

1167
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: highly respected, and then jumped straight into a general manager

1168
01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: president type role with the Lions. And in this football

1169
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,080
Speaker 1: life Ron Wolfe uh, of course the famous Packers general

1170
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: manager Um when asked what went wrong for Matt in

1171
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: Detroit and and and Wolfe said he underestimated the job

1172
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: the what was asked him. It's one thing to know

1173
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: what you're doing in the booth and another thing, uh,

1174
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: to really handle the role of building an actual football team.

1175
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,280
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not saying that John Lynch has

1176
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: done and John Lynch is going to be a disaster.

1177
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: But and Greg you wrote about this in your piece

1178
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 1: about the Winners Losers of free agency, that John Lynch

1179
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: as a total neo fight in the world of negotiations

1180
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: of contracts. It seemed like he might have locked in

1181
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,680
Speaker 1: on guys and just said I'm going to get these

1182
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 1: guys no matter what. A lot of money spent. Maybe

1183
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: not all the signings were bad. And Greg, you can

1184
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 1: help me out with breaking down who who's on that

1185
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 1: team and who you thought got over pay aid. But

1186
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: the fact that Matt Millen is like the benchmark for

1187
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: the worst GM anybody remembers. And John Lynch has followed

1188
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 1: the same path in terms of zero experienced guy, and

1189
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: now he's spending wildly in free agency. And I'd just

1190
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,959
Speaker 1: be a little worried if it's revealing how truly inexperienced

1191
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 1: John Lynch is and and also revealing maybe how desperate

1192
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,720
Speaker 1: the Niners are to hit on something too too in

1193
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,520
Speaker 1: this in this great hope with six year contracts being

1194
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,960
Speaker 1: handed out, we're gonna finally get it right with this

1195
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: young hotshot GM. But it just all feels like a

1196
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: bit of a hail Mary. It seems a little bit

1197
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 1: scary because we don't know how this is gonna go.

1198
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,439
Speaker 1: That's the big reveal from me there. And I heard

1199
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: from forty Niners fans. Were they angry with you about

1200
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: the piece? Yeah, and their pointing, well, you know they

1201
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: have other guys that are actually negotiating the contract like that.

1202
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: That's not the point they It's that they're in such

1203
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: a hurry that these are the guys we have to get.

1204
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a huge market out are necessarily

1205
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,440
Speaker 1: for you know, Malcolm Smith and Goodwin and and some

1206
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,360
Speaker 1: of these guys, and most of the contracts aren't crazy.

1207
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: There's a couple of like use check that that were wacky.

1208
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: It's more that most teams, I think the way you

1209
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: do business, you set a value for players. You don't

1210
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: just make a list of ten players that we have

1211
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 1: to get. We have to sign him in the first

1212
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 1: two days. So yeah, maybe he's not across the tail

1213
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,360
Speaker 1: table negotiating every last thing, but he's telling his front

1214
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,840
Speaker 1: office get them signed today, like gotta get Logan Paulson

1215
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 1: signed on day one. Can't can't wait for day day

1216
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 1: two or three, And so it just seems like they're

1217
01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: trying to solve their team's problems all in one. Maybe

1218
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: it works out, but most of these guys are just

1219
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: kind of like middle tier players getting a lot of money.

1220
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: I've noticed something about forty Niners fans. Jets fans have

1221
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: accepted their fate. This year is going to be a wash.

1222
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 1: Browns fans have known for a while what they're dealing with.

1223
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: Forty Niners fans are in denial more than any fan

1224
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: base in the league. And this has been going on

1225
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: for at least eighteen months. Now that your roster has

1226
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: been Barren and you just have have refuse to admit it.

1227
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: And now you're your g appears to be a little

1228
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 1: in over his head and you refused to admit that too.

1229
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: Is Kyle Shanahan completely not a part of this. I

1230
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 1: mean they they've talked the first minute that we're in

1231
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: lockstep everything that the GM is doing, the coaches signing

1232
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 1: off on experience. I get the sense this list of

1233
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: players to get is a lot of it's probably from

1234
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 1: Shannion because some of them, well there aren't. They essentially

1235
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: trying to quickly give him a version of what he

1236
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 1: had last year. And and the good thing about it

1237
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: is like it's gonna be trying to quickly do anything

1238
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 1: but that. But that's what they But you know, at

1239
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:36,720
Speaker 1: the same time, if you go, if they go to

1240
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 1: sleep and do nothing, you're walking. Cleveland had the worst

1241
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: record in the league last year, The Niners had the

1242
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: worst roster, and so you so they are quickly trying

1243
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: to eight they they're dumping a bunch of people they had.

1244
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: They have a double need for more people. And I

1245
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 1: think all I'd say is this if next offseason, when

1246
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 1: they have a full, you know, year together, that they

1247
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: attack free agency. If that's the word what you want

1248
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: to use, over aggressively and over pay and do it

1249
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: the same way. We got an issue. If there's a different,

1250
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: more patient approach when they have a bigger idea of

1251
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 1: what kind of team they are next year, then I'd

1252
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: pile on Lynch. I just I think, hey, it's not

1253
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,080
Speaker 1: it's early, but it's also I'm already on this. Kyle

1254
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,320
Speaker 1: Shanahan is just the most perfect person that we've ever

1255
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 1: seen on the earth. This guy's part, it's big on

1256
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 1: my radar, it's on Mark's radar, it's on your radar.

1257
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 1: It doesn't have anything to do with the sour way

1258
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 1: as Brown's tenure ended, does it. I think he was

1259
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 1: fair to want to leave the Browns, to be honest,

1260
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: I mean I think that he probably you know, but

1261
01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 1: it's it's not just Cleveland that there have been issues

1262
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: with with him. I think it's very talented to I mean,

1263
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 1: maybe he turns the whole thing around. It kind of

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Speaker 1: take some time, all right, we're out of time. That's

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Speaker 1: bad news. Because Mark's tax returns, that is that's a

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Speaker 1: big story. What's the payoff? We're at a time Dan

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Speaker 1: Dan leving out, Dan Learning that I made about two

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Speaker 1: hundred and eight dollars in two thousand and five. So

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you just beat Rachel Man out. We're

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Speaker 1: out of time. What do you want to I mean,

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Speaker 1: we can't do. We can't sit here all day. We

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Speaker 1: got other jobs here. I would love I would love

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Speaker 1: to dig through marks two thousand five taxs return. We're

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Speaker 1: out of time. Maybe Friday Show, come on back. Don't

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Speaker 1: even double down on this. This paid off so beautifully

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Speaker 1: just because West is actually upset and I love it.

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Speaker 1: I thought there was gonna be a bit at the oh,

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Speaker 1: but West the bit was the setup, don't you see now?

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Speaker 1: All right? I wish I had his tax returns. That'd

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Speaker 1: be fun, highly mundane. I am not. I've never been

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Speaker 1: on the I R S is rate. I mean West was.

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Speaker 1: West was like a kid on Christmas morning. He gets

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Speaker 1: downstairs and his parents tell him he's Jewish? Is crazy?

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Speaker 1: Or or real life? With like seven boys in the house,

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Speaker 1: you get downstairs and you have to share one firetruck.

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Speaker 1: It could have been a lot of toys, right boy?

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Speaker 1: All right, I don't want to this. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to unpack those memories. Oh no, but if you come

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Speaker 1: back Friday'll you hear all about Wester's childhood, even the

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Speaker 1: dark parts, including Christmas morning. For congratulations, I just unwrapped

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Speaker 1: a new cinder block. Ouch, got real. All right, we'll

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Speaker 1: be back on Friday. Like we said, we tape a

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Speaker 1: podcast Friday morning, uh here in Los Angeles, and we'll

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Speaker 1: get it out to you as soon as possible. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: thank you to everyone for listening. Uh and that's it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go let's go home. I would say let's go home,

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Speaker 1: but we're not going home. We're going back to work. Whatever.

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Speaker 1: This is Dan Hanson signing off for a Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: The Mailman, the Boss, and Last Seed, No Money behind

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Speaker 1: the Glass Down Friday