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Speaker 1: Music Saved Me.

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Speaker 2: Time really does heal. I'm a completely different person from

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Speaker 2: think I wouldn't be right here if I didn't go

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Speaker 2: through everything back then. So I think, as hard as

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Speaker 2: you learn a lot of beneficial lessons from it.

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Speaker 1: I'm Lynn Hoffman and welcome to the Music Saved Me Podcast,

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Speaker 1: the show where we talk with musicians about the deep

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Speaker 1: healing power of music. Now, if you like our podcast,

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Speaker 1: we hope you do follow us and share with your friends,

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Speaker 1: please and thank you. We talk with Hall of famers

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Speaker 1: and rising stars, and today I get to speak with

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Speaker 1: Glass Note Records recording artists Cecilia Casselman. Her latest single

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Speaker 1: is called Looking for June, and her self titled debut

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Speaker 1: album will be out in early twenty twenty five. Let's

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Speaker 1: explore Cecilia's inspiring journey and how new music has impacted

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Speaker 1: her life on Music Saved Me. Cecilia, Welcome to Music

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Speaker 1: Saved Me. It's so good to have you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to start off with I'm hoping it's

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Speaker 1: not a hard question, but I just need to know.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel that music has healing powers? Oh?

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Speaker 2: One thousand percent. Yeah. I mean that's the whole reason

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Speaker 2: I got through my childhood was because of music.

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Speaker 1: So well, let's let's talk a little bit about that.

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Speaker 1: Let's start off with your first experiences that led you

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Speaker 2: Sure, I mean, I just remember always having a guitar

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Speaker 2: that's something free to do. But yet, you know, now

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Speaker 2: it's become such a priceless thing in my life. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: I was just my mom just sort of bottle fed

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Speaker 2: me everything music wise, since I was, you know, such

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Speaker 2: and I would save We didn't have a lot of

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Speaker 2: would just save my lunch money and we'd go to

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Speaker 2: Best Buy to the clear clearance section. Back when best

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Speaker 2: Buy you know, had a music section and I would

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Speaker 2: pick out records and that that's what I did, and

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Speaker 2: that's all I did. I don't remember ever doing anything

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Speaker 1: Wow, Now was it was it music and writing songs?

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Speaker 1: Was it writing songs first and then writing the music

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Speaker 2: It was always I love guitar. I'm like a super

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Speaker 1: Now, would you and write just for yourself and not

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Speaker 2: I wrote it for myself. I wouldn't show anyone, Like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's very personal for sure. Anyone I've ever

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Speaker 1: just don't know. I was just listening to your song

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Speaker 1: It's all Right, and I actually was watching the video

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Speaker 1: That was so interesting because before I heard that, and

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Speaker 2: Oh a thousand percent. Yeah. If I didn't have all

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Speaker 1: How did that work in your mind?

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Speaker 2: I still don't know the reason why. I think that's

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Speaker 2: I was very very lucky that I had such great

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Speaker 2: I can't I can't take it. I mean, it's still

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Speaker 2: But I mean, that's the dream. That's all I've ever wanted,

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Speaker 1: It's very surreal, I bet, especially going from not one

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Speaker 1: Can you describe what it's like when you're writing a

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Speaker 1: what comes first and what's your process? And also when

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Speaker 1: it was, what music and artist did you turn to,

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Speaker 1: maybe specific songs that you listened to that helped you

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Speaker 2: When I was growing up, it was a lot of

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Speaker 2: Fleet and Mac. I remember that my mom got me

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Speaker 2: there's a song on there called Storms that Stevie Nicks.

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Speaker 2: I'm a huge Stevie Nicks fan. I think she's like

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Speaker 2: I think because it was just she showed a woman's heart,

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Speaker 2: because I grew up. You know, Nashville's very it's super country,

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Speaker 1: Have you met anyone from Fleetwood Mac or Stevie No.

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Speaker 2: No from Heartbreakers? He played on my record. It's crazy,

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Speaker 1: could you imagine, Well, tell me this, And I'm sure

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Speaker 1: been lucky enough to and yeah, you'll you'll find out,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure in the not too distant future. Can I

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Speaker 1: ask what you would give for advice to someone who

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Speaker 1: may be dealing with some difficult times in their life,

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Speaker 1: of what you would suggest for them in terms of

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Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, that's so tough because you kind of don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, everyone acts sort of differently no matter what

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Speaker 2: when I went through everything, I was very shy, like

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Speaker 2: I just become became silent. I would go to school

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Speaker 2: it's I can see people, you know, the quiet ones

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Speaker 2: I feel like always have the best stories just growing

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Speaker 2: Those are the thinkers and those are the dreamers. To me,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. It's so hard to go through things,

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Speaker 2: just taking it day by day and time really does heal.

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Speaker 2: I'm a completely different person from back then than when

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Speaker 2: It just you just mature. I think I think I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be right here if I didn't go through everything

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Speaker 2: back then. So I think, as hard as it is

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Speaker 2: learn a lot of beneficial lessons from it.

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Speaker 1: But no, No, that was a wonderful answer. And I

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Speaker 1: have this feeling that you're a very old soul, not

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Speaker 1: just from the artist that you grew up listening to,

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Speaker 1: because you blow me away. I mean those are all

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Speaker 1: half my age, so it's pretty amazing. I'm just so

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Speaker 1: excited for you, and I hope that all good things

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Speaker 1: continue in your life and in your career, and I

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Speaker 1: will be looking forward to your self titled debut. You

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Speaker 1: said it was coming out in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, day before my birthday, January twenty fourth.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, are exciting. And Looking for June is

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Speaker 1: the single that'll be out soon as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Looking for June is out, and then yeah, we

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Speaker 2: might have one more before the album. I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Well, thank you so much for coming on the

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Speaker 1: show and good luck, and you just making me smile

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Speaker 1: so much. I can't even think about how to say goodbye.

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Speaker 1: But I'm very excited for you. And it's always wonderful

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Speaker 1: to see new artists coming up and coming and doing

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Speaker 1: great things. And thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 2: This is so so fun. Thanks for having me