1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Ladies, gentlemen, welcome to another episode of the bust In 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Spring Tour. We've had a couple of the boys on, 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: but right now we have the Krem de La Krem 4 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: of the University of Michigan, the man that everybody wanted, 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: including when I was here from two thousand and nine 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: to thirteen, Coach Harblell. 7 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 2: Let's give it up for coach. 8 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: Yes, outstanding, outstanding. This this is obviously presented by the 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: most durable, reliable vehicle on the market, one that you 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: can get up and just go no, it's never going 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: to break down on you, the Chevy Silverado. 12 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: Coach. Glad to have you on the show. Thank you 13 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: so much for coming on. 14 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have a Silverado, did you? Yeah? 15 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: It was probably pretty amazing, wasn't it. He was. 16 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had two thousand and four all the way 17 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 4: to have twenty fifteen or so, and then passed it 18 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 4: down to one of my kids. 19 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 2: And that's probably still going to this day. It is 20 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 2: question about it. It's a legacy vehicle. Chevy's are for legacy. 21 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 2: It really is. 22 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: So last week we're so we're doing this spring tour. 23 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: We went to Nebraska last week, Michigan this week. And 24 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: then we're going to hit Tennessee at some point. But 25 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: when we were at Nebraska, we were talking to Scott 26 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Frost and we brought up this idea, and I want 27 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: to get your vibe, your thought. 28 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: Do you want to show them the clip? Well, before 29 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: we do that, I'll bring up the clip. I'll run 30 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 2: up the clip. You ask about the talk about the 31 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 2: fight when we when. 32 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: We were when we were talking to Scott Frost, we 33 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: asked him who would you lose to in a fight 34 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: in the Bag ten? 35 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 2: And he kind of was, I don't know at first. 36 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 2: Then he brought up you. 37 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: He said, if all the coaches in the Bay ten, 38 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: if he had to fist fight him, he would probably 39 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: have the hardest time with you, because how scrapy you are, 40 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: high energy guy through the roof getting after you. Guys, 41 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: Who do you think? Who do you think that fight 42 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: would go between the two of them? Cool? How a 43 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: fight would with me? 44 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 45 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 5: And Scott Frost, I would say, I mean, are you 46 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 5: coming out on top of that? 47 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 4: I don't know if I could whip anybody. Uh uh, 48 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 4: I'm sure all the coaches in Big ten are tough. Yeah, 49 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 4: I would have to say, because I wouldn't concede. I mean, 50 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 4: I haven't here's the deal. I haven't been in a 51 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 4: street fight in about twenty years. So Scott Frost would definitely. 52 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 4: He's a thicker dude. 53 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: Definitely, Yeah, he would. I mean I would. 54 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 4: I mean, if I weren't pick anybody, I mean, who 55 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 4: would all come in? Scott Fross, Mel Yeah, Tucker. 56 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 2: Uh. Those would probably be my two favorites to go 57 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: against or you might lose to. 58 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 4: You'd probably be that would be you know that you'd 59 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 4: put it, yeah, be the most worrisome. 60 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, because you know you're not worried about 61 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: Ryan Day. You know that's the type of guy. I mean, 62 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: after what you guys. 63 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 3: Did do, I don't know if I could whip anybody. 64 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, you know what, I love it. Very political 65 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: of you, and I love that. But the way you 66 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: guys put it on Ohio State I had to be 67 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: one of the greatest feelings for as a coach playing here, 68 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: going through that, and of all the games you played, 69 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: you've played in the super Bowl, you've done almost everything, 70 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: that's got to be the best. One of the best feelings. 71 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, none better. I can tell you that. Like like 72 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 4: anything with a win. You know, they're like they're like 73 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 4: your own children. You know, I got seven kids and you. 74 00:02:58,120 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 2: Love them all. 75 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know you really do. Uh that's that's what 76 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 4: every win feels like. But uh yeah, certainly none better 77 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 4: than that that game with Ohio State here in the 78 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: Big House. 79 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: You know, our team was they were they were. 80 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: Highly motivated, they played, uh played extremely well, executed great 81 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 4: and was uh uh is everything was a dream you 82 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 4: know kind of season and uh you know that game 83 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 4: was that was the act. 84 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: It was, It was absolutely everything. 85 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 5: Speaking of rivalries, we're trying to get a little something 86 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 5: going between the boys, and. 87 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: It sounds like it's halfway there. It's it's halfway there. 88 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 2: Once you know it's halfway there. 89 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 5: I'm gonna show you a clip of Scott Frost talking 90 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 5: about it. Taylor played in Michigan, I played in Nebraska. 91 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 5: You guys OUs played obviously played. Do you guys play 92 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 5: every year or is it you guys played two years 93 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 5: in a row and then off two or do you know? 94 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 3: I do know? 95 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 4: They they've got this, They've got the Big Ten has 96 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 4: had this scheduling system where where the East plays the 97 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 4: West and everybody's gonna play each other. 98 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: The same lot of times. 99 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 4: Uh, but it's gonna take fifty six years to do it. 100 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 2: Tell me some good schedule. Yeah, it's it's, it's. 101 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: It's it's Uh yeah, it's it's. It's mind boggling. 102 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 4: But like we've played, Nebraska or Wisconsin has been our 103 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 4: crossover game for like the last eight years, and now 104 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 4: it's gonna becomes. 105 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 3: Uh, it's gonna become Nebraska is gonna be who we 106 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: play the next eight years. 107 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 2: Oh, this is perfect. 108 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 4: Over fifty six years, everybody will play each other eight times. 109 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's hilarious. Number one, but this is perfect for 110 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 5: the situation we're talking about. 111 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 3: This is here. 112 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 2: You can hit watch again and listen to the clip. 113 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 3: Okay, watch watch again. 114 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: Okay, it's my voice close. Whoever wins, it's the battle 115 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 2: of the bus. It's a giant gold. 116 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: Bus with long if you make the trophy. 117 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: And so once you give me your first initial reaction 118 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: to the feeling of that, cool, I love that. It's 119 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: a great start. I love the one word too. Is 120 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: it a possibility? 121 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: Uh, well here's what I do. Yeah, absolutely, I mean 122 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 2: you just I mean why not? 123 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: I mean, there's Nebraskas Michigan can do whatever you want, right, 124 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: you guys make the. 125 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 2: Trophy and then then we played for it. 126 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 3: You know, it's like so. 127 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: There's no like loopuls if you with the NCAA or 128 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: a Big ten. 129 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 4: When I was when I was a coach at the 130 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 4: University of San Diego, our our main rival was Dayton, 131 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 4: and uh, and we came up with the idea as 132 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 4: a team, let's let's get let's get something to play 133 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 4: for between us and Dayton. So we made a flag 134 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 4: and it was half San Diego and half Dayton. 135 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, one was blue and white and the 136 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: other was red and white. 137 00:05:56,279 --> 00:06:00,279 Speaker 4: And uh, we made this flag and then we took 138 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 4: it to the game and we won. And then after 139 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 4: the game I went up to the other coach and said, 140 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 4: this flag we made back here we out of respect 141 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 4: for the for your program and our program. We we 142 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 4: wanted to have something to play for in this game. 143 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 4: Now we want it this year, so we'll keep it. 144 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 4: But you know, if you beat us, then you can 145 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 4: have the flag and we'll we'll go back and forth. 146 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: And they were totally cool with it. 147 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 3: I don't think they were cool. They weren't cool till 148 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 3: they won it. 149 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: Yes, and then they took. 150 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, they weren't. Yeah, they I don't think they recognized 151 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 4: it at all until they won it and then it 152 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,359 Speaker 4: was there was Yeah. So I would say this is perfect. 153 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 4: Under that precedent, you could make a trophy and then 154 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: whoever wins it takes that trouble. 155 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 5: Well you hoisted like you win your are you going 156 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,239 Speaker 5: to be proud? Like, let me see that bus trophy 157 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 5: and hold it up. 158 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: Because if you think, if you think about it this way, 159 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 1: the Brown Jug between Michigan and Minnesota, it's a great trophy. 160 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: But like the backstory, we left a water water bottle 161 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: there and then yeah, we left the water jug. Then 162 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: we called like, hey, we need that back and you 163 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: gotta win it if you want to get it, if you. 164 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: Want it, you gotta come. You gotta come win it. 165 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so this is are we Uh. 166 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 5: We went to our lawyer, We went to our legal team, 167 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 5: and we had something. We had something drawn up here. 168 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 5: If you would want to just sign and say like 169 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 5: you're down to do it, says I Jim Harball, agree 170 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 5: to making Nebraska Michigan game the bust and Bowl. 171 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: Oh let's go. 172 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: This is listen, this might not mean a whole lot 173 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: to you, but this is everything to us. It's electric. 174 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: This is an electric factory happening right now. And standing 175 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: I don't think you know what you get yourself into. 176 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: You're gonna see a lot more of us. 177 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: And somebody in the building had mentioned maybe it was 178 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: maybe some of the maybe it might have been the players. 179 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: Maybe they saw your show. 180 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 4: They say, hey, here, we're playing Nebraska for a trophy, 181 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 4: uh next year, and said, I said. 182 00:07:56,680 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 2: Cool hip. It's a it's the first I've heard of it. 183 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: But now this kind of feels in. 184 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: My heart's warm and fuzzy right now, you know. And 185 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: you saw your wife for the first time in her 186 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: white dress. It's a Michigan guy, Nebraska guy. Yeah, you 187 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: know together that was insane. 188 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, what an atmosphere that that, uh, game day. 189 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 2: Experience and memorial was off the chain. 190 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: As the young people say, you know, uh, the music 191 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: the third the thing they do between the third and 192 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: the fourth. 193 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 2: Cour when the lights go off in the red lights. 194 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the song they play? 195 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: It's a Metallica song or heavy metal song. 196 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: It is tough. 197 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 5: But I know, I know, you know that, I know 198 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 5: I should know that. I was in the momentary, joked 199 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 5: that ye thunder, that's like the number one. When he 200 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 5: looked at me and started saying, well the song, my 201 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 5: heart started just beating. 202 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 2: I don't know right now, you were thinking about the 203 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 2: true So it's kind of like when the Steelers. 204 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 3: That's awesome though, by the way, I think that's awesome. Yeah, 205 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 3: let's do it really. 206 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah the eighty doesn't have to sign off on it. 207 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 5: Oh he might, but either way, we coaches are like, yeah, 208 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 5: let's let's competely do. 209 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 3: Let's do it. 210 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: I meanding, yeah, these back here. Yes, hey guys, if 211 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: you guys. 212 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: Comet rules. 213 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 2: Apologized, there's rules on that. 214 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: Huh. 215 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 3: You can't talk to everybody. You just want to make sure. 216 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 3: That's making sure. 217 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. Speaking of rules, a lot of 218 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: things have changed. The n I L deals have been 219 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 2: have been a big transition to college football. 220 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: What what do you see Michigan doing? Because we had 221 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:54,720 Speaker 1: a couple of the offensive linman on. To be brutally honest, 222 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm a little disappointed because I was like, hey, what 223 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: are your an ile deals? Like mister Spots, which is 224 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: a fantastic place, keep an amazing guy. I love him 225 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: to death. But at Nebraska, kids are making one hundred 226 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: thousand dollars over there, and that's gonna I mean, Lincoln's 227 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: not much to look at, but they, I mean, kids 228 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: are gonna come for that six figure deal. 229 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 5: I don't know if he's allowed to talk too much 230 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 5: about Oh yeah, I don't know if because you guys 231 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 5: aren't allowed to really be a part. 232 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 4: Of No, we can't be a part of it. But 233 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 4: kay fingerprints on it, which we don't. But I mean, 234 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: i'll give you my my my take on it, which absolutely, 235 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: I think it's a very good thing. I think players 236 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 4: should be able to profit up for their name, image 237 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 4: and likeness. 238 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 3: But I don't. 239 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 4: I don't want to lose what Michigan is, and that's 240 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 4: that it's a transformational experience, not a transactional experience. But 241 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 4: with the Ni NI L it can become transactional. So 242 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: I'm not We're not going to recruit players and be 243 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 4: promising them money to come here. But if you do, 244 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: it's been proven, you come here and you play well, 245 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 4: then your he starts selling. You start getting these deals. 246 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 4: We have players that are making, uh from what what 247 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: they've told me, uh, you know, in the hundreds of 248 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: thousands of dollars. 249 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: So hundreds of thousands. That's six figures, right, and that's 250 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,760 Speaker 2: that experience. That's absolutely correct experience. 251 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 4: But that I mean, yeah, beats so that kind of 252 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: like the transformational experience, uh, you know, can can become 253 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: transactional if if you if you play good. 254 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 2: I think that's a good model. 255 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 4: I mean yeah, you would you ever want to be 256 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: on a team where some guys just coming coming in 257 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 4: and he's getting he's getting. 258 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 3: Money to come in like and hadn't done anything. 259 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: I lived that life right now in the NFL. It's 260 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: kind of like what it is every day, right, yeah, 261 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: it is. It is kind of crazy. The thing that 262 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: is becoming more transactional in the college football world is 263 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: this uh transfer portal. Because when I was playing, it 264 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: was like if you transferred, you to sit out a year, 265 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: it can't be in conference. There's all these crazy rules, 266 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: and now it kind of seems like a free for all. 267 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: Do you see like the way college football morphine kind 268 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: of seems like it's coming turning into like an NFL 269 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: and that way a free agency almost. 270 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. 271 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 4: And the other side of the coin to me, why 272 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 4: I was always for the transfer portal was because it 273 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 4: didn't seem fair that of the thirty eight sports or 274 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 4: forty sports that there are in college sports, there was 275 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 4: only four at the time that you couldn't just freely 276 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 4: transferred to another school if you wanted to, right, football, 277 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 4: men's basketball, I think it was women's basketball, and the 278 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 4: other was hockey. 279 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: Now I'm not one hundred. 280 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 4: Percent that those are the four, but all the rest 281 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 4: of the sports, all the country club sports, all all 282 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: other sports, they've always been able to transfer freely without 283 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 4: having to sit out. So that's why I was four 284 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 4: to man. Should I mean the rules should be really 285 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 4: uniform for all the sports. 286 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: Right, And. 287 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean if just like if your if your 288 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: son or daughter wasn't having a good experience someplace, I mean, 289 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 4: they should have the ability to go to a to 290 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 4: a school where they can't get that great college experience. 291 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, with that stuff, I'm so sorry for cutting off. Well, 292 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 2: I just wanted to finish the thought. 293 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: But my worry with all that stuff is, like, you know, 294 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: a lot of times when the way like kids are 295 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: growing up now, even like in our childhood, a little 296 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: bit of the participation trophy thing when you go somewhere 297 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: and you don't get that instant gratification like is there 298 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,319 Speaker 1: like kids are more bounded to get up and like, 299 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: well I'm not getting what I want to leave. It's 300 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: not necessarily a there's just ways to manipulate that process. 301 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: It's not saying like I'm having a bad experience at 302 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: in Michigan or at in Nebraska Wisconsin. It's like, well 303 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: I'm not starting, so I'm just gonna leave And that 304 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: kind of to me is a bummer. And I think 305 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: the transfer portal I agree with you. I'm just saying 306 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 1: that's another way to think about it. 307 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: Now. I mean you bring up a good point. I mean, 308 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 3: does it does it hurts? 309 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: Hurts the experience of working through a tough time, having 310 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: some endurance, having some resilience. 311 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 2: I mean tough to argue that one. 312 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for overall though I think it, I 313 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 4: think it's. 314 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 3: A good thing. 315 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 2: Does it make it hard? 316 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 5: Like knowing that the pivot it's kind of made with 317 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 5: the transportal and then all the nil stuff happening that uh, 318 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 5: that feel for taking on an extra gig to where 319 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 5: it seems like you've got to recruit these kids all 320 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 5: year round. Now you know what I mean again with 321 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 5: the unhappiness or dude doing this and that obviously for 322 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 5: you if you're a head coach, like you're like, yeah, 323 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,199 Speaker 5: I mean if these kids aren't it for the wrong 324 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 5: reasons that you don't want the most part of the 325 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 5: molding culture that you're trying to build here, but doesn't 326 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 5: make it harder. Does it kind of put you in 327 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 5: a spot to recruit kids all year around with all 328 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 5: this stuff happening. 329 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, first of all, I try to try 330 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 4: to be that in terms of recruiting, be the uh 331 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 4: be the kind of coach, be the kind of place 332 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 4: where uh underpromising and over delivering. Uh And yeah, so 333 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 4: I try to try to deliver every day you know 334 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 4: that they're here to make it, make it a transformational 335 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 4: type of college experience for them. 336 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome. 337 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: Man, that is outstanding as far as like uh under promising, overdeliver. 338 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: I heard you're quite the recruiter. Now, I wasn't not 339 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: the opportunity as bro and not have the. 340 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: Opportunity to get recruited by you. When you were at Stanford. 341 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: You were recruiting a player and I don't know if 342 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,640 Speaker 1: you remember him, Craig Row. Yeah, he actually came to Michigan. Yeah, 343 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: he came here and you came to my high school 344 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: and they're like, hey, you gotta look at this kid. 345 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: Taylor l Wand is kind of coming up and he 346 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: looked at my transcript, and you know, it's. 347 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: Not going to work out there. 348 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: It's not gonna work out with the Stanford not work 349 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: out at all. So but I've heard like you stay, 350 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: you come over in cleats, you're staying over at houses, 351 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: Like what what makes you want to recruit in such 352 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: a unique way? 353 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 2: Uh? 354 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 3: Well, there was right. I mean some of the things get. 355 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: Us undred percent right. It's a fish story. 356 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: I never were not that I can ever remember, or 357 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: no did I ever wear cleats to somebody's house. And 358 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 4: I always take my shoes off when I when I 359 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 4: come from. 360 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 2: Really that's important to know. That's important to know. Always 361 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: we had you know who A J. Brown is? A 362 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 2: J Brown wide receiver. 363 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: Here we went to old miss Okay, and I believe 364 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: we might be wrong on who we could be wrong 365 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: to be wrong. 366 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: He said that you didn't take your shoes off, and 367 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: his mom got mad. 368 00:15:57,520 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: I always take. 369 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 2: That have been Isaiah will say you get to complete line. 370 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: Is I take exception to that, okay, And I respect 371 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 2: my mom and. 372 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 4: Dad would take exception to that. Yeah, yeah, that would 373 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: be very offensive to the whole training. 374 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: That is one of your u Like, what is one 375 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 5: of your unique recruiting pitches that you've swung and missed on? 376 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: Like, what's something you look back on you're like, all right, maybe. 377 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 5: I'll scrap that and then, you know, do something different, 378 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 5: Like what's a recruiting store that didn't go your way? 379 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: Well when you're starting out. 380 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 4: As far as far as I mean again the pitch, 381 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not like the there's probably a lot 382 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: of people better in terms of the car salesman type 383 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 4: of pitch or the h I'm pretty much I tell 384 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: you what it is. I mean, it's the same thing 385 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 4: my dad told me when I was in high school 386 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 4: trying to decide what, you know, what's the best school here? 387 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 4: My dad said, son, this is the ABC's of picking 388 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 4: at college. A academics go where you can get the 389 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: best education possible. B ball? Where can you go and 390 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 4: play early, play often, play well, be developed, and win 391 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 4: see college experience. Where are you gonna go and be 392 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 4: truly happy and feel like, uh you know that's good. 393 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: That's going to be home? So uh easy. 394 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 4: ABC rememberable and you know, I found to be spot on, 395 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 4: and that's been the same advice that I've I've given 396 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 4: hundreds and thousands of kids, uh ash as in my 397 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 4: role as a head coach. 398 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, do you have a good Do you have a 399 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 5: good recruiting story where something was just well, I'll give 400 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 5: you an example. We had Bo Polini on He came 401 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 5: on the bus back in Nashville, uh huh, and we 402 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 5: were talking to him about recruiting scores and he told 403 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 5: this recruiting story where he went. It was either in Florida, Texas. 404 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 5: One of there him and his coach, I want to say, 405 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 5: was maybe Tim Beck at the time, but he's like, Bro, 406 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 5: we went into this house and the whole time we're 407 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 5: trying to recruit this kid, somebody's watching porn in a 408 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 5: room close by to where you can hear everything. So 409 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 5: the entire time you site you and they're trying to 410 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 5: recruit this kid, you hear all this moment thing and 411 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 5: growing going on in the background. But just a hilarious story. 412 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 5: Do you have anything like that that you think, what 413 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 5: a wild situation? 414 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 4: There is no recollection. You haven't never had any kind 415 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 4: of any kind of situation that hasn't been been been great. 416 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 4: I mean it's it's always the same. I mean wherever 417 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 4: you go, I mean you go and you got you 418 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 4: got families that uh, you know, really care about their 419 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 4: son and uh you know they're they're they're they want they. 420 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: Want what's best for their son, not watching porn. 421 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: Brain development, right, A tough deal. 422 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: Cerebellum, Yeah, you know, domine I want to say there's another. 423 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 4: One where they you know, you get into the thing 424 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 4: I think. I mean one thing I think that always 425 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 4: strikes me every time. It is uh, you know, go 426 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 4: out and recruit wherever it is, I mean across the country. 427 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 4: It's like football is really strong. I mean people really 428 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 4: really love football. And uh and yeah, family and the 429 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 4: families are strong. Souls are two things that always are 430 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 4: super encouraging to me when I'm going out and hitting 431 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 4: the recruiting trailer making home visits. 432 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:07,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 433 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: Well, being a guy that played at Michigan, and like 434 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: I said before, when we first started this podcast, like 435 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: when I got here, Rich Rodriguez was here and then 436 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: Rich it wasn't going great. Everyone's like we gotta get horrible. 437 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: That's the guy, the Michigan man. We got to get him, 438 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: and then Brady Hope comes in and Brady at the 439 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: end of Brady Hoasting. 440 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,920 Speaker 2: You're like, harble, we got to get him. 441 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: So being a guy that played here, your experience like 442 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: in college and then coming back here, like how much 443 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: different was it for you to see, like, you know, 444 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: thirty years later where you're at. 445 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 2: It's been great. I mean I've just always had a 446 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: love love. 447 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 4: Relationship with Michigan. Always been extremely blessed and just have 448 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 4: a lot of gratitude, attitude of gratitude for this place 449 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 4: everything it's it's done for me personally and my family 450 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: and just everything. You know how some people you probably know, 451 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 4: you know, your own school Michigan or your own school 452 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 4: in Nebraska. I mean they sometimes they had that love 453 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 4: hate relationship with it. You know, eighteen eighteen wonderful things 454 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 4: might have been done for you, Yeah, while you were there, 455 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 4: but there was one thing you took exception to and 456 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 4: you know it's big. 457 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, this place, you know I didn't do enough or 458 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: didn't do sounds like me, that sounds like me. Absolutely 459 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 2: no love it, you know what I mean. 460 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: And if there's yeah, stuff that you know didn't go 461 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 4: your way or you weren't you know whatever I mean, 462 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 4: it was. 463 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: That's that's life. Yeah, that's stuff, you know that. 464 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 4: But the things that I was taught here by my coach, 465 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 4: Bo Schambeckler. 466 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 2: The legend, the legend. 467 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they just priceless, Like I mean, nuggets 468 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 4: of gold that I was able to receive, you know, 469 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 4: when I was eighteen to twenty two years old. 470 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: So forever, forever, forever, thankful. 471 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 5: Shall we get into the I think it's time because 472 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,239 Speaker 5: I know we're at the twenty one mark now and 473 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 5: we gotta go. 474 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: We got a couple of good ones. Ask absolutely. 475 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 5: So this last segment, oh dang, oh no, all the 476 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 5: product last segment is brought to us by Duke Cannon, 477 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,919 Speaker 5: the official scent of Bustle with the. 478 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 2: Boys, and it's a phenomenal product. Huge deal. Hey did 479 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: that dude take my cologne? 480 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 4: Oh? He did? 481 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: Who did the one? I was going to put the 482 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: fist finger in it? Zenter, Oh bro it smells phenomenal. 483 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 2: Get a whipp of this. So this aint says Bush, 484 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: I got you hooking up. This is Bush. But give 485 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 2: this thing a nice little smell, honest opinion on it. 486 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 3: This is a setup. 487 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 2: No genuine it's kind of nice, right, really nice. You 488 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: didn't know what you smell with that with that bush 489 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: local on the outside. Yeah, you never know what you're get. 490 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 491 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I've always been a brute man myself. 492 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 5: But uh, rub your finger and that and smell that 493 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 5: that's not a set. 494 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: Kind of like give that thing a little Yeah, that's nice. 495 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 2: It tends to be in every locker room calls. 496 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 4: Are you guys the kind of show that gives the 497 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 4: guests a little gift for coming on the show? 498 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: We were we plan on that. Here's the issue. 499 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: So we had the last to be radio shows back 500 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: in the day we do that. 501 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 2: We had Trevor Or, Zach has yours. We had three. 502 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: You were one main one on Cade was we didn't 503 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 2: know if Zach and Trevor was coming. 504 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 4: On, but it would be great for tradition for you 505 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 4: guys to bring back. That was a kid growing up 506 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: in Michigan. Ernie Harwell used to do the Tigers games. 507 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 4: Legendary George Kell and Ernie Ernie Harwy. They would always 508 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 4: have somebody on either in the post game or the 509 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 4: pregame interview, and I think the tagline was always thanks 510 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 4: for coming on, you receive a pair of Floorsheim shoes, 511 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 4: which we're kind of dress shoes. 512 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: Nice deal, bring that back. You doesn't have to be 513 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,239 Speaker 2: floor shym shoes. It could be could. I think that's 514 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 2: a phenomenal idea. That's a great idea. 515 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 5: But she's saying like she's gonna get the whole line boxes, 516 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 5: she's gonna You're obviously gonna get a pack. 517 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 2: You're gonna get one ship. It's really his good. 518 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 5: But this last segment and talking about locker room and 519 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 5: everything like that. You've obviously been in the coaching game 520 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 5: for over two decades, for over twenty years, but you 521 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 5: were a player for fifteen seasons, bro Like you were 522 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 5: there Walter Payton' rookie year. 523 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: You were coached by Mike Ditka. 524 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 5: You were a baller like me when I was a kid, 525 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 5: and you got money and the books Fair came to 526 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 5: your school and you bought those posters you know what 527 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 5: I'm talking about. Yeah, you're Indianapolis Coast poster was hanging 528 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 5: in my room. So you've played a lot of ball 529 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 5: before you were a coach and all this madness, all 530 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 5: this buttoned up collared stuff. If we're gonna loosen up 531 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 5: the tie a little bit and talk about a good 532 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 5: old fashioned six pack of beers in here locker room 533 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 5: story from back in the day, whether again, whether it's 534 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 5: references Peyton Dicka, a fun. 535 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: Night out, something that you just love to tell that. 536 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 5: You wouldn't normally tell in like a mainstream media show. 537 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 5: Like so many, so many. 538 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: We can go one at a time. 539 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,439 Speaker 5: We got time all yeah, I mean again, you've been 540 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 5: in the game for over thirty years, bro, both player 541 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 5: and coaching. But I can't say, like, I know you've 542 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 5: been a meat peaker, right, Like we joke with all 543 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 5: the players. Hey, hang on, we say with all the 544 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 5: players like I'm the guy like that would go. We'll 545 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 5: go around and practice during walk through. Hey, be honest, man, 546 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 5: do you peek in the shower stuff like that, like 547 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 5: busting balls with the guys? And I know you remember 548 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 5: what that was like number one? 549 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: Where does it? 550 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 5: What were you meat peaker back back in your playing days? 551 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 5: Come on, man, that's tough. That's a tough lie. 552 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 2: That is a tough lie. 553 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 5: We always because I would go around and I told 554 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 5: like Sas Taylor, I beg you know, I bet you 555 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 5: eighty percent of guys say they don't they don't peak 556 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 5: in the shower. 557 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 2: But sometimes you just notice in general. Yeah, sometimes you 558 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 2: just notice in general. 559 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,439 Speaker 5: Right, But all that being said, we know you know 560 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 5: what it's like to be one of the boys. I 561 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 5: want you to take us back a nice little story 562 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 5: that you can give. That's Jim Harball the football player. 563 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: Give us that. 564 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,719 Speaker 5: Maybe, Dick, maybe a game you think back on your 565 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 5: fuck I really wish I would have had that game back. 566 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,880 Speaker 2: Maybe it's something with Dick guy. 567 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 5: I know he was a crazy I know he was 568 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 5: like a crazy bastard. The well night I was coaching 569 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 5: Walter Payton. You were with him for one year as 570 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 5: a rookie when you got drafted first round. Congratulations, all right, 571 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 5: that sparked something right there. 572 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 2: I love a you kept treading and then Life Preserver 573 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,120 Speaker 2: came out. Yes, that's outstanding. 574 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 4: So my first game ever, getting ready to play the 575 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 4: Miami Dolphins preseason game. 576 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: It was actually the first. 577 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 4: Time they Joe Robbie Stadium had just gotten opened up. 578 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 4: So first game at Joe Robbie Stadium and I'm sitting 579 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 4: at my locker already had everything dressed ready to go, 580 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 4: just waiting to go out for pregame, and uh, Walter 581 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 4: Payton comes up task me on his shoulder and he goes, 582 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,879 Speaker 4: you nervous, And I said, no, first round pick played. 583 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 4: I played at Michigan, you know, and then for one 584 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 4: hundred worth, one hundred thousand people every week. He goes, well, 585 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 4: I am. I get nervous before every game I play. 586 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 4: I go, I usually throw up at my hum up 587 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 4: before the game. I throw up once before every game. 588 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 4: And he goes, I'm gonna give you a piece of 589 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 4: advice shows get the first hit in, seek it out 590 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 4: if you have to, but run around, hit somebody, and 591 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 4: then all those butterflies are going away. And then he 592 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 4: and he walked away and uh into a cloud, yeah, into. 593 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 3: Like yeah, you know, and I was really nervous. 594 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 4: All the butterflies were doing cartwheels in my stomach and 595 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 4: uh yeah. I took that piece of advice with me, 596 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 4: uh the rest of my career and uh and it works. 597 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 4: Me go hit somebody, you know, hit somebody right at 598 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 4: your at your offensive live and the defense get tackled. 599 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 4: I mean, get get that first hit, uh in a 600 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: football game, and those those butterflies go. 601 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: I feel like kids sitting around a campfire. 602 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: That nerve that nerve and then you I need that 603 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,120 Speaker 1: first play because the worst part of it before a game. 604 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: I'm sure you remember this playing was after warm ups, 605 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: going back in the locker room before you go play. 606 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: And then that point, for me, it's like, god, we 607 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 1: just we just go play now, and Souse, you just 608 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: want to get that first hitting, and as soon as 609 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: you get the first hit, you're like all the nervousness 610 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: of what could happen is out the window. 611 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, crescendos. 612 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 4: I mean it's like, uh, you go back in after 613 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 4: warm ups, Hey, you go to the bathroom, you do it, 614 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 4: you know, you get your uniform, everything feeling good and comfortable, 615 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 4: and you're kind of sitting there and then all of 616 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 4: a sudden, I mean, the coach, every coach has ever 617 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 4: ever coached football, right two minutes, calls everybody up and 618 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 4: then you just come up and you just looking at 619 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 4: each other, right, I mean staring, Yeah, like okay, this 620 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 4: is it, trying to go to battle and uh yeah, 621 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 4: that's then. 622 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: You run out and Butterflies get that first right down. 623 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 2: National anthems goes on. You're trying to. 624 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: Be your patriotself and you're like, you just got to 625 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: play exactly that's what. 626 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 2: That's the way you should be. 627 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 3: That's the way you should be. 628 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 2: I mean it should be. 629 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 3: That's the way you should go into a game. 630 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 4: I mean the uh like a thoroughbred racehorse when he 631 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,919 Speaker 4: when he when they try them out for that Bugler's 632 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 4: call at the Kentucky Derby or whatever. 633 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,239 Speaker 3: I mean, the ones that are winning. I mean you 634 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 3: can see, you can see the heart. 635 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 4: Pounded, nostrils are flaring, eyes wide open, right, I mean 636 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 4: they got a sweat going. I mean, this isn't like, uh, 637 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 4: some horse that's taking people around in New York City, 638 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 4: you know, pulling a cart. 639 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 3: You know they're there. 640 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what your ten. 641 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 5: But we're talking about it this morning, like you know, 642 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 5: not naming anything, but talking about circle in a certain game. 643 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 5: But it's just like yo, you just you got to 644 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 5: get the fight started. Yeah, analogies just like you know, 645 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 5: don't wait, like. 646 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 3: Go fu school. 647 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, first one, the first one getting started. Bro, Like 648 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: when you grow up and your parents talk to you 649 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: about getting a fight. You never started, but you make 650 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: sure you're finished it. To have a mentality like with football, 651 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: is like you got to start it right away. 652 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: That's the only way to do it. 653 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: You go in there and you throw the first punch 654 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: and then just keep swinging to you're exhausted. 655 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: You a little. 656 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 4: Uh my dad trained me, I'm gonna fight like you 657 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,080 Speaker 4: want to get the first. 658 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 3: What did you do with? 659 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 2: What do you like? Get you like? Hey, son, come 660 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: down like push you. 661 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 3: A little bit. 662 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, my grandfather was a boxer, uh said my professional 663 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 4: boxer had about nine fights. 664 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,200 Speaker 2: And uh, my dad could handle himself really well. 665 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 4: But uh yeah, he's Uh, you never want to if 666 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 4: you're facing off a guy, you never want to you 667 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 4: never want to be squared to him. You want to 668 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 4: come in a slight, slight angle, and you want to 669 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 4: always throw the first punch and you go for the 670 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 4: tip of the nose. Why the tip of the nose, 671 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 4: because that's the most sensitive part and will bleed. 672 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 3: It will first, it will bleed, you know. 673 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 4: You know, and uh and the easiest and a lot 674 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 4: of people when they taste their own blood there sometimes 675 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: their their will and their resolve. Well yeah, well lessen mightily. 676 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 4: So hey, you're firing me up right now. Scott in trouble. 677 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 4: I think he'd be got up. But he's a big dude, 678 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 4: Like he's like a little more girthy, would. 679 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 2: You make you demonstrate and be like, all right, do 680 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: you do it? He's angry to he's angry guy, Yeah, Scott, 681 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 682 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: He seemed calm, cool, collect But we went out to 683 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: practice the next day and there was a fight or 684 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: something that practice and. 685 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 4: Look at his eye, you know, looking at Yeah, hey, 686 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 4: would you not a little crazy matter of fact? 687 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 5: Would you take when you saw the clip of your 688 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 5: brother shaking Rabel's hand, they had a little disagreement. 689 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: Are you sitting there like, oh yeah, John, Hey, John, 690 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 2: don't know brother guy. 691 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how he kind of gave him. 692 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: That was that was I was texting. 693 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: He's like, hey, throw the first punch, don't get the 694 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: start out because he came in and John said something 695 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: to him and Rabel kind of did this thing. 696 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 3: Didn't look. 697 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: Dog each other. 698 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: Over a thing that the Titans we've done forever. Is 699 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: we're just going to goes down stomp in the middle field. 700 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 2: Happened to the Raves. 701 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 3: Everyone taking it, Oh. 702 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 2: No doubt they were. They were absolutely pissed. Hey, this 703 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,719 Speaker 2: has been awesome. It's that game too, No, not that 704 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: one they did won a divisional game. Yeah, yeah, matter, 705 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: but we won that game that we're talking about, the. 706 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: Divisional game, y'all, the one that mattered the most. Okay, 707 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: I said, y'all, like it's you, guys. Man, he's always 708 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: taken on you. You strike me as a guy that 709 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: and we can be done whenever you want. We're kind 710 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: of just mudding the water now. But you show me 711 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 1: as a guy that's always got his mind on ball, 712 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: like constantly focused on the prize at hand, which is 713 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: the Beate ten Championship. But I think the Beate ten 714 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: Championship is now, like you need to obviously want to 715 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: win that, but you guys made it's the playoffs this year, 716 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: and so I feel like you're like your personality, the 717 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,959 Speaker 1: intensity in your eyes, you seem like a dude. It's 718 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: like that's that's what it is now, you know, that's 719 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: what we're going after. 720 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just exactly. 721 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it's been a pleasure. 722 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 5: Did you used to get after it as a player, 723 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 5: like off the field at night? 724 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: No, you were like you were like. 725 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 5: Buttoned upball American quarterback, like you know, never got into 726 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 5: some trouble. Like all you got to say is, oh, yeah, 727 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 5: I used to get after and then that's it. I 728 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 5: don't need a story. I'm just wondering, like. 729 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: Like a lifetime ago. Yeah for having us with this show.