1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,640 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: with our radio. Should we start like opening up this 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: show and saying the Ben and Author Ashley I podcast 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: like a formal title that we can give you, like doctor. Well, 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: then it would be like philanthropists Ben Higgins and author Actually, 6 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: like an Eddie, we get real deep and like obsessed 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: with ourselves. Let's not do that. Let's not do that. 8 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: I don't think people would like that at all. Hey, 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: if you have it yet, make sure to go out 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: and buy Ashley and Jared's new book. I've read it 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: for the back. It's terrific. I've learned a lot about 12 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: my own self through it. Actually, where can they buy it? 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: They can buy it right now at Lucy and Clark 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: book dot com and then at the end of March 15 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: it will be on Amazon. But why get it on 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: Amazon in six weeks? If you can get it now 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: at Lucy and Clark book dot com, it will be 18 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: in your mailbox or at your door within a week 19 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: and um then it will also be in bookstores at 20 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: the end of March. Ben, we are doing a special 21 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 1: little celebration for it. Next week You're flying out to 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: l A. We're gonna have dinner at Mr Chow's, which 23 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: is super good and I've only been there on an 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: awkward date like I talked about last week. But Ben, 25 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: if you ever have Mr Chow's. I know of Mr Chow. 26 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: I hear big things about him. He's very popular in 27 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: the food community here in l A. So good. You'll 28 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: eat with me, Jared and a couple other bachelor friends. 29 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: And um, we're we're putting that dinner up forbid. If 30 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: you go to if only dot Com proceeds go to 31 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: the American Red Cross and you get to have dinner 32 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: with me, Ben, Jared, and a couple other of our 33 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: bachelor friends. And in addition, it is open to the 34 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: public to go to Planet Blue in Malibu at six 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: o'clock next Monday, March fourth, and you guys can just 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: hang out with us. We'll probably do a book reading, 37 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: we'll do some book signing, and then we'll just be chatting. 38 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: So open for him to come hang out with some 39 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: of your bachelor faives next Monday in Labu at Plant Blue, 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: six o'clock. Alright, Ben, after that shameless plug, let's get 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: back to how your trip in Honduras was. Yeah, I 42 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: just got back generous Adventures. We call it UM. It's 43 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: part of Generous UH International, which is best known a 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: Generous Coffee. So we started Generous Adventures, which takes trips 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: to our coffee farms all around the world, and so 46 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: we do it a couple of times a year. This 47 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: trip was special because we went to Honduras and we 48 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: visited our new coffee farm, which is called Honduras Coffee Kids. 49 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: And this is a farm that the kids of producers, 50 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: so the kids of families that have been in coffee 51 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,679 Speaker 1: for hundreds of years are now learning how to grow 52 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: specialty coffee. So we went and visit them. We also 53 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: went and visited the communities that our coffee sales and 54 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: t shirt sales are going to. We brought twenty two 55 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: people with us in the US and we drove across Honduras. 56 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: UM experienced the whole country. It was It was really 57 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: awesome and uh, it's really fun. I honestly ash every 58 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: time I go down. You know, sometimes I think for 59 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: all of us, who you know, work and we have 60 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: all our own specific jobs. Sometimes we kind of get 61 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 1: in this routine and I'm talking to UM, a young 62 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: lady right now who listens to podcast and She's just 63 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: texting me today and she's like, I'm just kind of 64 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: in a rut, like I'm depressed. I'm sad, and it's 65 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: because I don't feel a purpose. And I think these 66 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: trips allow all of us to experience a purpose again, 67 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: like feel like we have human connection and feel like 68 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: we can make a difference in the world. Feel like, um, 69 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: we can take a step away from the regular routines 70 00:03:29,720 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: and just recalibrate and and see what it is that 71 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: makes life important. And ultimately, I believe that's people. And 72 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: so I feel great being back. My stomach is healthy, 73 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: which is always a good A good plus no parasite 74 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: this time, no parasite, but it was it was great. 75 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: So and everybody on the trip, you know, as big 76 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: fans of yours, Ashley. They listen to the podcast um 77 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: and uh, and it's really cool to hear their feedback 78 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: after they get to know me personally, I mean, spend 79 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: a whole week with me in a bus and so 80 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: after you get to know me personally and here you 81 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: know kind of their critique of the podcast and just 82 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: how much they like it and they love our our banter. 83 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: And it just always makes me smile because it's you know, 84 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: two years and almost to this thing, and and it 85 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: does feel like you and I have have helped create 86 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: something really awesome. So anyways, I feel very blessed right now. 87 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: I feel very full, uh, and I'm very excited about 88 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: what's to come, not if you're generous, but almost famous. 89 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Do you feel a lot of that full happiness because 90 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: you brought your lady jess I did. Yeah, I think so, 91 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: she you know, so yeah, no, no, I know. So, 92 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: So this is what happened actually, and and Jessica is 93 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: going to come on the podcast here today and just 94 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: a little bit and talk with both of us. Ashley's 95 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: gonna griller. I mean, there's nothing to grill, um. But 96 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, when Jesse and I started dating, um uh, 97 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: you know in early February or early December. Really she 98 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: knew I was going on this trip, and she on 99 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: her own accord and said, hey, I just want this 100 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 1: for myself. I'm gonna sign up, um if you're okay 101 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: with me going. So it was just awesome for her 102 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: to invest into kind of one of the things that 103 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: I love and uh, and for her to choose to go, 104 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: and so she came down for the three days of 105 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: the trip and got to meet everybody, and uh, and 106 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: we just kind of got to take a week away 107 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: as we announced that that we are dating, that we're 108 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: happily dating, that things are good, and I'm excited for 109 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 1: the world to get to know her because she is 110 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: she's a really special person. Okay, everybody freaked out last week. 111 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 1: Everybody was so excited for you. And I think Jess 112 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: gained sixty thousand Instagram followers. Like, that's how many people 113 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: are eager to know about the lady in your life. 114 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: I know, isn't that crazy? She she told me. She's like, 115 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: what can I because Jess has a story to tell 116 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: and it's not mine to tell. But Jess's story of 117 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:00,599 Speaker 1: how she's gone to where she's at and the things 118 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: that she's kind of worked through in her life, uh, 119 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: is incredible. I mean, the woman she is today is 120 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: something special and so uh she was like, you know, 121 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: what is going to happen? And she is not a 122 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: social media person at all. She she likes it. She 123 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: does it for what she needs it for. Um. But 124 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: then when the followers started creeping up, she was like, 125 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: what in the heck do I do? And I was like, 126 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I think you just keep being yourself. Um. But yeah, 127 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,839 Speaker 1: that was a big day for her, a big day 128 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: for us. Uh, And it's exciting. I mean, I want, 129 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: it's always exciting when somebody can have a platform to 130 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: speak on things they love. And I think now Jeff 131 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: definitely does and I'm happy to show her off to 132 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 1: the world, uh because I do think she, uh there's 133 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: somebody that everybody will enjoy and appreciate. And you know, 134 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: I say often that I like people because I think 135 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: I do right like I do, but those days that 136 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: I do not, Um, she legitimately likes people, like legitimately 137 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: cares a ton about each human being she comes into 138 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: contact with and like emotionally invests into them. And so 139 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean that is the type of person that everybody 140 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: needs to know. And I know that you wouldn't be 141 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: so open and public about her if you didn't see 142 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: a future. Oh yeah, definitely. I mean, you know, it 143 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: hasn't been very long. And I don't want to put 144 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: a ton of pressure on us because I don't know 145 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: if that's fair. But I would never um put a 146 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: relationship out there that I didn't feel like could handle it. 147 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: One and that was healthy enough to be sustained, and 148 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: then also one that I think people need to know about. 149 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,119 Speaker 1: I'm not going to freak out and you know, start 150 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: saying crazy things and act like this is the the 151 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: end all be all. Yet you're not gonna You're not 152 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: gonna pull Tom Cruise and jump on the couch right now. No, No, 153 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: but this is so good, Ash, it really is. And 154 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: I'm excited for her to come up podcast. I'm actually 155 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: uh so smiling. You guys get to see him on FaceTime, 156 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: Skype or whatever. He's like so like he's God Like 157 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: all the smile wrinkles right now. It's like his face 158 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: kind of hurts. It's so I agree. So this is 159 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: everybody out there listening. Actually you have to hear this. 160 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: She goes, this is our text through the day. I said, Hey, 161 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: you ready for the big interview to seet today shows? 162 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: Probably not? Do I get the questions you're gonna ask beforehand? 163 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: Or am I good? Just to win? I said, just 164 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: win it, be yourself, will be great. I'll help you out. 165 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: She goes, Okay, don't embarrass me or anything. I said, 166 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: we will see shows. We're a team. If I embarrass myself, 167 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: I embarrass you. So that's so cute. All right, let's 168 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: get closer to this interview. First, we're gonna do the 169 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: show recap, the hometown recap, and then we're going to 170 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: get into Jess. I feel like everybody out there is like, Okay, 171 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to fast forward until Jess and then I'll 172 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: come back again. But you cannot, you guys, Let this 173 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: the the tension build, build a suspense. It'll be so fun. 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So all you gotta do is text 219 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: almost Famous to thirty thirty thirty and you will get 220 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: full access to open Fit, all the workouts and all 221 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: the nutrition information totally free. Again, just text almost Famous. 222 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 1: You got to do the breakdown Hometown Week, one of 223 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: the craziest weeks out there in Bachelor Nation. Colton Coltine 224 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: like the guy at least if I'm a father that 225 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: I would like to come home with my daughter. I 226 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: think he's gonna fine here. Oh yeah, he's kind of 227 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: like you. I mean a lot of people have been 228 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: comparing him to you. He's the best bachelors in Spen. Higgins. 229 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: He gives that warm, wholesome vibe. He walks into your 230 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: house and you're like, Okay, this guy, he's like every 231 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: father's dream, right. Do you agree with that comparison? Yeah? 232 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 1: I do? Yeah, Yeah, you think he has He's got 233 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: those vibes. He has those warm, fuzzy vibes. He's well spoken, 234 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: he doesn't seem like he can do any harm. Okay, 235 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: And you know how in this episode, Cassie shows a 236 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: lot of she's very unsure. I feel like she's unsure him. 237 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: She's the only one that hasn't said I'm falling in 238 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: love with you. I think it's because she may like 239 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: a guy who's a little rougher around the edges. I 240 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,560 Speaker 1: think she wants more of a bad boy really like 241 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: he's too he's too we're not gonna say soft, a 242 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: soft and good word to use. Yeah, I don't know. 243 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if Coltman wants to call him soft. 244 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: He's like really approachable. He doesn't invoke any nerves from her. 245 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: I think that she's like actually like it's like so 246 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: comfy to be around him, and she may want a 247 00:12:58,000 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: guy that's going to make her a little bit more 248 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: nerves she's a little more intimidated by m hmm. Okay, 249 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: well let's let's jump in here. We've got four women 250 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 1: here still in the show, Kalin, Hannah, ge Uh, Tasha, 251 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: and Cassie. Well, Calin is no longer here after this episode, 252 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: but but for this episode, we're breaking it down. Shows 253 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: up to Klin's house in Virginia. Here's what here's my takeaways, Ashley, 254 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 1: I want you to chime in here her you know, 255 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: her father is not in the picture, her stepdad is there. 256 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: Her stepdad. To me, it just comes off as this 257 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: dude that is so loving, like he just wants Kalin 258 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: and the rest of the family to know how much 259 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: he loves her. And so when Klin sits down with 260 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: him and says, these are some of the moments in 261 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: the show where you're like, okay, finally, like you have 262 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: an opportunity to let somebody know how much you mean 263 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: to him. And Klin does that by saying, You've always 264 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: been my dad, and I love you. You've been the 265 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: best dad. And you just see this guy like he 266 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: doesn't even know how to respond this and was such 267 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: a cute little mush It was that was really that 268 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: was my favorite Kalin moment. This is one of my 269 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: favorite kalent moments. It was a good one. Now you know, 270 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: the hometown dates are always interesting. There's not a lot 271 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: to talk about here because Colton walks in, he meets 272 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: the family. There's a lot of them to meet. I mean, 273 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: there's a ton of family members meet her. Her stepdad 274 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: is kind of the picture of what we're focusing on 275 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: is a step back in a light Colton is he not? 276 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: And the step that is just a much like he's 277 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: a great dude. You can tell he loves uh this 278 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: family so much. But actually I gotta ask, okay, so 279 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: that we can build on this here. This is obviously 280 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: the episode that Kalin goes home. So leading up to 281 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: this point, Kalin went for being a front runner. Uh. 282 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: Calin obviously was vulnerable. Um. She shared the depths of 283 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: her pains uh with Colton and how she's been a 284 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: survivor and is a survivor. But outside of out of 285 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: side of those things, what happened in there relationship because 286 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: you could kind of tell that this was the end 287 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: for Calin before the episode even started. You you saw 288 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: that episodes started, I think so I think you knew 289 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: out of all these girls that Kalin was the one 290 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: that was definitely on the chopping block. Um that something 291 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: had to change here, and after this first date, I 292 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: thought that not enough happened to prove even though she 293 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: shared that she was falling for him, to prove that 294 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: that she was going to be around. What's happened in 295 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: their love story or their dating story that kind of 296 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: made them separate. I think there's just a lot of 297 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: I think it just came to a Standzill. I think 298 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: that a lot of their conversations probably ended in her 299 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: like giggling and not getting too deep. I think that 300 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: he was like trying to get past the florty phase, 301 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: and maybe they didn't get past that giggly florty phase. 302 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: She I think it was a telltale sign when she 303 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: said I'm fully in love with you now, because she 304 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: said I'm falling last week and Colton didn't say anything back, 305 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: and with the other three this week he said he 306 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: said I'm falling in love with you two, which Ben, 307 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: is there really a difference between I'm falling in love 308 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: with you and I am in love with you? Because 309 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: you got so much crap on your season for saying 310 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: I love you to two women, but he's saying I'm 311 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: falling in love with three women. So it's a really 312 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: that much of a difference, you know, there there really 313 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: isn't And and actually, I think on this show, saying 314 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with you, maybe even in real life, 315 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: like in dating Sam, falling in love with you is 316 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: pretty much saying like I am in love with you 317 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: without actually saying the words. And I could be wrong. 318 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: And if I am pleasing email us. I've been an Ashley. 319 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: iHeart media dot com. But this is just my opinion. 320 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: I think every year, uh, you know, we've consistently seen 321 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: people tell people on the show, I'm falling in love 322 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: with you, which what they really want to say, what 323 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: you really want to say is I just absolutely adore 324 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: you or I love you. The funny part about this 325 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: and Colton did what every bachelor bachelor has ever done 326 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: in the history of the world, is once you get 327 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: in an awkward scenario, what do you do with Klin 328 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: He didn't feel it, he didn't want to do her. 329 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: Good on, good on Colton, he did not. He kisses her. 330 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: He leans in for the big smacker rou that that 331 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: is the universal bachelor language for this is getting awkward 332 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 1: and I don't want to keep it getting confed. I 333 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: will say, like, if you do this in real life, 334 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: would you ever have like phase of one where you go, 335 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: I'm falling in love with you, and then like a 336 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 1: month later you go, I am in love with you? Like, no, 337 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: you just wait until you are in love. Yeah, you 338 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: don't like tease it, like, well, why are you really 339 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: in love with me? I don't know, but I'm falling. 340 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: I'm almost there. Because you don't have the urgency in 341 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,959 Speaker 1: real life, like you don't have to say it at 342 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: a certain point like now. If you're not saying it 343 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: by hometowns, it's like red flag, red flag. Like with Cassie, 344 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: people like, oh my god, she doesn't like him enough 345 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: to stay anymore exactly, Yeah, like, oh my gosh, she 346 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: doesn't love Colton. She's out, she cannot be the one, 347 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,439 Speaker 1: like she's done. This is this is gonna get interesting 348 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: towards the end. Um. I do think that after that 349 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: day it was very clear that Caitlin was going home. 350 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: I actually, uh, just end the Calin segment here. When 351 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,280 Speaker 1: I was with Colton in Denver, it was the week 352 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: before this, right, and uh we we went through every 353 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: single one of the woman that he had left. When 354 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,640 Speaker 1: he got to Kalin his he was very into her, 355 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: very excited about her, said that they related on a 356 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: lot of levels. They had a very good conversation that 357 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: wasn't shown obviously on the show, but he was like, 358 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: I'm really really into Kalin, and so once I watched 359 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: last week and this week, Uh, it was surprising to 360 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: me how much I felt like his feelings had changed 361 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: in just a week and a half after speaking with 362 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: him in person. Wait, so, Ben, I remember when I 363 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: was like, give me the dirt. You met with Colton 364 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: this week in the middle of taping a season, and 365 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: you pretty much said that you thought that that Calin 366 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 1: was going to be it. I did fit after seeing 367 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: it in his eyes, Like it was like he had 368 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: a relationship with Calin that was so peaceful, comfortable, understanding 369 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: and supportive, and that's kind of how he explained. I 370 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: was like, well, that's your wife, Like that's it, and 371 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: and something changed. Now obviously I haven't had a chance 372 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: to talk him about it, and and I haven't asked 373 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 1: those questions, but I remember very clearly, like you said, 374 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: I came back saying this, Kalin whoever she is, she's 375 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: one to watch out for. I know, because I remember 376 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: I could think I could say it now, but you 377 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 1: were like, she tells the story of sexual assault and 378 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: it kind of gives more detail into his virginity, and 379 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: then you're like, and I think this might be the 380 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: girl for him. Yeah. Like they were able to immediately 381 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: relate and interact on a whole new level, like a 382 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: deeper level, one that I don't know. I don't know 383 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: Colton's who he's told, who he hasn't. I mean, obviously 384 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: now he's told millions of people, but before this, I 385 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: think it was hard for cold and open up. And 386 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: I felt like he could with Kalin, which builds the 387 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: foundation obviously for anything in the future. So a little shocking. 388 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: My front run at the beginning of the season is 389 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: now gone, leading into maybe my front runner now. Hannah 390 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: Gee Hanna Geez from Alabama and she's got manners. We 391 00:19:54,840 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: saw this week that she wants a man that has etiquette. 392 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: She takes Colton to an etiquette class. You know, here's 393 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: the thing. These hometown dates are always fun for me 394 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: because you get to see a little bit more about 395 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: the person and who they are. I felt like Hannah, geez, 396 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: just kind of date idea of the etiquette class was 397 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 1: good and cute and fun, but it didn't help me 398 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: get to know her and all is that's something that 399 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: she does like on the side, is she? I mean, 400 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: at the end of the episode she rapped for us. 401 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 1: Why not take him to a rapping class? I don't know, 402 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: but she did so good at the rap and I 403 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: think that we saw the most personality from her we've 404 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: ever seen. That date seemed like the one that I 405 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 1: would most like to be part of. I mean, not 406 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 1: the manners part, the hometown part, Like the family part 407 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, this is the family that would most 408 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: like to hang out with. They seem the most comfortable 409 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: to be around. The one that was grilling him a 410 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 1: little bit less, well do you think? Yeah? I agree? 411 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 1: I mean her mom was the one in the whole 412 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,879 Speaker 1: group that was distant, right, she didn't love this idea. 413 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: She was the most protective in the whole group. But like, 414 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 1: as the table kind of started talking, and especially in 415 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: the little blooper at the end that we watched, you 416 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: saw this table and it looks like a fun table 417 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: to sit around, Like that's the table I want to 418 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 1: drink wine, talk life, wrap with laugh with like no 419 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: judgment at that table. Uh, but you know, the Handah 420 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: G Colton relationship is one that I do think has legs. 421 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: She is still my front runner, um. But until the 422 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: very end of the episode, I still didn't see Hannah 423 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: G and Colton really laughed together. I just feel like 424 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: they make out a lot, which is great and that's fun, 425 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: and I get it, but I wanted to see a 426 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 1: little more depth and and so maybe we just haven't 427 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: been shown it. Yeah, I think probably. I mean you 428 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: get to see at the end of the episode how 429 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: there are so many fantastic scenes that get cut out, 430 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 1: so many scenes that do tell us more about their 431 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,479 Speaker 1: personality that we don't get to see, And I think 432 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: that's unfortunate. If there's one thing I would change about 433 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: the format of the show is I just wanted to 434 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: be less like, let's talk about where we're at, let's 435 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: talk about my feelings for you, and I just want 436 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: to see what's made those feelings come about, because it 437 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: seems like that it seems like the wrapping scene, what 438 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: you're exactly right, Here's a part that blows my mind 439 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: about this date. The bread, the bread. Why would you 440 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,080 Speaker 1: just put a little piece of butter on a big bread? 441 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: Why do you even do it at all? Do not 442 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 1: tell me that is the fourmal proper way to do things, 443 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: because I find that like disturbing. Are you kidding me? 444 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: You're going to like basically have to keep the butter 445 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: right there next to you. The butter tray is gonna 446 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: be right by you if you're doing that, and then 447 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: you're kind of, in a way double dipping, which is 448 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: totally anti manners. Who came up with this idea and 449 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: who sets the standard? Because I can tell you one thing. 450 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: If I'm out the dinner with a stranger and every 451 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: time they take a bite, they're also taking that knife 452 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: and they're even getting it within a centimeter of where 453 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,400 Speaker 1: their saliva has just leaked off with a piece of bread, 454 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm not in I'm done. Oh I would be so 455 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,719 Speaker 1: grossed out if somebody did that on the first date 456 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: or like even like the first couple of dates. Oh 457 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: my god, I'm like, you're gonna keep doing that? I 458 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: am just distracted by you. Keep by you keep going 459 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: for the butter. No, I mean and secondly, and this 460 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: is this is one I have a strong feeling for 461 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: on a first day, right. I mean, I grew up 462 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: in a small town in Indiana. I'm here right now, um, 463 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: and it's a great town, great people. Etiquette is not 464 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: something that we practice very often. We try really hard 465 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: to have manners and be polite and kind and say 466 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: you're please and thank you. But if I'm ever on 467 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: the first date and i have a piece of bread 468 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: in front of me and I'm putting that bread in 469 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: my mouth, and and somebody looks at me and goes, 470 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 1: that's bad manners or that's not the right etiquette, I'm 471 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: going to be so fast out the door that you 472 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: won't even see me. I don't want anybody being that uptight. No, 473 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: that's true. I mean, you know, nap, get on your lap. 474 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: Sure if you're a nice enough restaurant, and that's like 475 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: a natural movement that. There are some kind of things 476 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: that I was just like, okay, this is too much, 477 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: and some things that I'm like duh. Her family is acceptable, 478 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: accepting of the idea. They support this relationship. I think 479 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 1: that we're seeing Ashley year of a year now. I've 480 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: been in it. Um, how hard it is. Hometown dates. 481 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: Hometowns dates made me so sick. I was sick to 482 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: my stomach every house before I went in, UM like sick, 483 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: sick to my stomach. And I think Colton was the 484 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: same way, because you're sitting down with a father and 485 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: at some point you actually do I mean, I knew 486 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: with Lauren like this is gonna be something like I 487 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,199 Speaker 1: want to be able to tell her father she's it. 488 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: I can't because there's still some time left, but I 489 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: want to be able to tell the father this. And 490 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: it's so nerve racking. It's so hard because you're so 491 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: stressed out, and hometown dates are not easy. We watched 492 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,400 Speaker 1: on TV and and for the first time, I think 493 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: it's one of the only weeks in the show. Hometown 494 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: dates are a lot more dramatic in person than they 495 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: are when you watch it back then. You just brought 496 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: up two things that I wanted to talk about. I 497 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: used to look forward to hometown dates the as a 498 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: couple of years that I watched The Bachelor. I thought 499 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: they were really interesting to see where they came from 500 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: and to see their families. And now I find them 501 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: so formulaic that it's the most boring episode of the 502 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: entire season to me. UM I'm like, Okay, I know 503 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,120 Speaker 1: you're concerned she's gonna get hurt. I know you're being protective. 504 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 1: I get it. It's like the same every single hometown, 505 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: and it doesn't give me what I want. What I 506 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: want is to see like the personalities of them at 507 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: home and if they're going to drive with the family. 508 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: But like, we know you don't want to get hurt. 509 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 1: You don't you think it's weird to propose to somebody 510 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: that you've known for six weeks? So, Ben, that's what 511 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk to you about asking permission. Why 512 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: does it have to happen at hometowns that seems like 513 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: such a production thing when you I think it would 514 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: be really nice. Is if you're like, I'm interested right 515 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: now and possibly marrying your daughter. Can I get your 516 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: phone number so I can call you in about two 517 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: weeks when I really have decided. Didn't you do something 518 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: like that? Didn't you call Lauren's dad? What made you call? 519 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: Lauren said it's something weird happened. Did he say no, 520 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: you don't have my permission? He didn't say no at all. 521 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: He was actually terrific about it, but he just said 522 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 1: been like, I can see that there's something here. But 523 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: I also don't want to treat this, uh in any 524 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: way that I wouldn't treat this in real life. If 525 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: you're serious about it, Like if this actually I don't 526 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 1: want you to talk to me and this maybe possibly 527 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: kind of talk. If you're serious about it and it 528 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: actually is my daughter, I want you to call me 529 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: and ask me. And I said I would love to 530 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: and so, um so I got his number and right 531 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: before I did, I did call him. And you can't 532 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: do that. It's it's a fair thing. I'm glad I did. 533 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, I agree with you. I don't think there's 534 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: something weird about the language of Hey, your daughter is 535 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,360 Speaker 1: really special to me and I really care about her. 536 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: But if I'm in this at the end and she's 537 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: in this at the end, then possibly maybe I'm gonna 538 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: fall for your daughter. It's like, what are you talking about, dude? 539 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: Just call me if it's a thing, and I'll tell 540 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 1: you then, Like, I know, why can't why can't we 541 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: do every season the way you did it? I think 542 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: Laura and said, I got it right, that's perfect. Well 543 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: he's a smart guy. He was a smart guy. Um, alright, 544 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: So moving on here, Tasha. Tasha has this joy and 545 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: this bubblinus about her, and she also pulled one of 546 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: the moves that I would hate the absolute most if 547 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: I was dating Casia on this show. Colton has been 548 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: traveling all across the country this this week. During the show, 549 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: he's in houses back to back to back, and he 550 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: gets out and she literally pulls out all the stops 551 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: by making him have a date with one of his 552 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: biggest fears, which is jumping out of a plane. That 553 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: is one of the things I It's one of the 554 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 1: reasons actually that I'm not kidding when um when they 555 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: asked a few years ago or a year ago, whatever 556 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: it was, if I consider coming back, My thought was, 557 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: I made it a whole season without after jumping out 558 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: of anything. I don't want to go back, Like I 559 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: know that's coming, and could him to do it twice 560 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: he had to bungee jump, which I would not do. 561 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: I need to jump out of a plane, which absolutely 562 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: freaks me out. Yeah, when they had that shot of 563 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: the back of the plane opening and you see the ground, 564 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: You're like, holy moly. In that moment you have to 565 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,199 Speaker 1: be like, I'm going to lift my feet up and 566 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: fall like no way, I'm not doing that well, I was. 567 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,440 Speaker 1: What I'm confused about is a couple of weeks ago, 568 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: he and Tasia I went bungee jumping, so she was like, 569 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to do part two of this day and 570 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: now we're going to jump out of a plane. It's 571 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: we didn't. We didn't acknowledge on the bungee jumping episode 572 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: that she was a fan of falling down. No, they 573 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 1: never said that that the bungee jumping was the thing 574 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: that you want to do. She actually seems scared of it, 575 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden she is in adrenaline drunkie. 576 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: Is so intense ash I hate every second is I'm 577 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: watching Colton's face and you can see you can really 578 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: see in Colton's face that it's like I don't want 579 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: to be a good Batchel like I don't want to smile, 580 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: I don't want to be here. I know I have 581 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: to do this, but I am so scared. His face 582 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: looked terrified. I know, and I don't know. It's just 583 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: kind of it's it was, is does she like having 584 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: these adrenaline field dates because maybe she thinks it bonds 585 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: them together more? Was this her little mec is them 586 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, the endorphins will make us fall 587 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: more in love. I do like Tassia, and I do 588 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: think she's good for Colt because she does bring him 589 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: out of his show a little bit. And so we 590 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: have to ask. Then Tassa's dad did not give permission 591 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 1: immediately to Colton m to marry his daughter. I like 592 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: this move. I think I think like now, kind of 593 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: like you were saying earlier, we watched scenarios like this. 594 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, Tassia's dad is like, you know, 595 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: the enemy here, and he's so mean and he's so 596 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,719 Speaker 1: you know, tough. But I watched and I go, I 597 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: get it, Like he just loves his daughter. He's taking 598 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 1: this seriously. He's saying Tassia, like, come on, like, if 599 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,120 Speaker 1: this is a real thing, didn't you ask? But right 600 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: now I'm not giving my permission. Yeah, this is I 601 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: guess this is the second. This is the first time 602 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: dads have been asked since I've been engaged. And you know, 603 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: Jared asked my dad, and I would want it no 604 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: other way. I love that tradition. But watching this back, 605 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: I felt it in a different way, of course, because 606 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: it's something that I've lived through, and I would not 607 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: want my dad to give permission if there's three other 608 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: girls in the picture. Not at all. No, it's just 609 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: seems weird and it seems soft. So it doesn't feel 610 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: like that there's enough credibility behind the relationship yet to 611 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: ask that question. So finally we have Cassie, who has 612 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: been a friend owner in our eyes ash since the 613 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: very beginning. We we like Cassie. She's absolutely gorgeous, She's smiley. 614 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. At the beginning of the season, I 615 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: thought I was very interested in Cassie and intrigued because 616 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: I thought that she might be one of those girls 617 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: that came on for maybe just just based on her 618 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: family history and kind of her Instagram, and I was like, 619 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, maybe she's not here for the right reasons. 620 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: She's definitely here for the right reason. Her sisters dating 621 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: a celebrity. Do you know who he is? I forget who? Yeah, 622 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: I looked up his pictures. Good looking fellow, um, good 623 00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: looking guy. And she's been on a reality show before. 624 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: I just want to explain why we thought possibly wrong 625 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: reasons iron Yeah, I mean she stood out to us, 626 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: It stood out to me at least the beginning, like, 627 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: all right, the background kind of points to something that 628 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: we've seen before, and it's it's not being here for 629 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: the right reasons. Now we definitely, I definitely believe she is. 630 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: She's into it, she's being honest with Colton, she's not 631 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: overly explaining how much she feels. She's not lying to 632 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: him and her family. Her family is the one that's 633 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: the hardest on Colton. How did you perceive this situation? 634 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: It was What stands out to me is one and 635 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: her dad didn't give permission, which I thought was totally 636 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: fine what I just said, Um, but the sister really 637 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: the solo session between her and her sister made me 638 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: feel interesting. It made me feel like Cassie was like, Yeah, 639 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: I think my sister knows I'm not feeling this enough 640 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: right now. I think she knows me well enough to 641 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: know what I would look like if I was totally 642 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: head over heels and in love. And I think she's 643 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: catching me right now. What did you think that was? 644 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 1: That was the moment for me sitting on the back. 645 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: Agree with everything you said there. So let me ask 646 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 1: you and every be out there listening, just take a 647 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: second and think about this say that is where Cassie's at. 648 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: Say that she's not head over heels in love, but 649 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: say she's very interested in Colton. She cares a ton 650 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: about Colton. She likes him, and she wants to see 651 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: where this is going. Is it fair for her to 652 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 1: stay in it till the end if her feelings aren't 653 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: maybe that oh my gosh, this is it. I'm done marriage, 654 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: let's go. Well, she was saying that she thought her 655 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: family was going to be a deciding factor in that, 656 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: you know, when she was out by the beach, she goes, 657 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: I'm hoping to get more answers later, and then they 658 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: sit outside the house after the family meeting and Cassie 659 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: is still like I got the answers that I needed 660 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: and he's like, on, what has that made you feel? 661 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: And she was like, it feels a guy need to 662 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: digest things a little bit longer. And he's just like suit, 663 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: you can tell like his heart's just sinking in this moment, 664 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 1: and he's like, I cannot believe this is happening. Like, 665 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's the probably the girl that he wants 666 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: to hear it from the most because he's so attracted 667 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: to her. But I mean, I think you're seeing it. Yeah, 668 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,960 Speaker 1: you're spot on. But Ben, do you think that he's 669 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: so attracted and so into her because he's she's giving 670 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: him the least because he likes the chase of it all. Yeah, 671 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: it's like something he can't have. And I know that's 672 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: been something with Colton in the past, like in real life. 673 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: Is you know he likes what he can't have a 674 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: little bit, so um, maybe, you know. I think that 675 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: there is that element to it. And I also think 676 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: that if we were honest with ourselves, it's been a 677 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: few weeks now that Cassie is definitely the front runner. 678 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: If we're just looking at from who is Colton? Who? 679 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 1: Does Colton want to make it work with the most? 680 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: But the truth is, I'm interested in the next few weeks. 681 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: If she doesn't reciprocate the feelings, say she leaves. I mean, 682 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: we have a couple of huge weeks in front of us. 683 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: We've seen previews for a while. There's something weird that's 684 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,719 Speaker 1: gonna happen. If she doesn't reciprocate the feelings. Does Colton 685 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: even stay around? I mean at this point, is he 686 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: just trying to make it work with Cassie and just 687 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: kind of going through the other relationships to do it, 688 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: or he's continuing to keep his mind open just in 689 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: case Cassie isn't into him. I don't know. Here's where 690 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: the show to me. Um, I don't know what the 691 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 1: right thing to do here is. If I was Colton 692 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: or Cassie, I would assume Cassie needs to stick it out. 693 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: She's to figure out if she's into a not and 694 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: which she's not. She needs to leave on her own accord. 695 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: If I'm Colton and I'm only interested in Cassie and 696 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,040 Speaker 1: I haven't kept my mind open to the other women, 697 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: then if Cassie leaves, do you do? Do you just 698 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: in the show? Is that what happens? I feel like 699 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: right now she's a front runner, but she's not a 700 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: front runner enough for me to think that that Colton 701 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: isn't genuinely interested and he's just going through the motions 702 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: with the other girls. Okay, Um, But I do think 703 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: Cassie's getting to a point where it's almost wrong to 704 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: be staying around. And it's weird because last week, when 705 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: she was defending herself against the allegations that Kerpa and 706 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: Tasha were throwing, she was like, I am here for you. 707 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 1: I am into uba blah. And then all of a 708 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: sudden this week it's like, I'm not sure where I'm at. Yeah, 709 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 1: she's I don't I don't see this be She's not 710 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,320 Speaker 1: like sold on Colton at all. No, and she should 711 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: have been way more honest. Last week she was like, 712 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,840 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing where this is going. But 713 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: then this week I felt like she was more like, Okay, 714 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: I really should probably make a decision soon. I don't know. 715 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 1: I really I don't think she's being completely honest with 716 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: herself right now, but I do. I would probably say 717 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: I'd give her a little bit longer it out. Would 718 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: you if I definitely would Would you want if a 719 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,839 Speaker 1: girl in on your season came to you this week 720 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 1: going into Fantasy week week, would you wanted her to 721 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: say I'm not in love with you yet, I'm still 722 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: trying to get there, or would you be like, Okay, 723 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: that's a red flag that I need to let her 724 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: go now, you know, Ashley, that's such a good question. 725 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: I think, if I'm sitting there and the one that 726 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm most interested in, or if the front runner of 727 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: my eyes, the one that I could see a future 728 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: with is, and I'm sitting there pouring my heart out 729 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: to her, knowing I'm almost towards the end. I'm so 730 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: close and I found somebody that I want to have 731 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 1: a life with, and she's looking back at me, going, 732 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: I just don't know if I'm there. Not only does 733 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: it shake your confidence a lot, right, I mean you 734 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: have to have confidence in the situation as the bachelor 735 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: bachel atte because there's so many things swirling around you 736 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: at once, and you're you're you know, you're dating so 737 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 1: many people, so it would definitely hurt your confidence. It 738 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: makes you question everything. Um. But all I would ask 739 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: from her, and I don't know if I'd be prepared 740 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: for it would be to be as honest as possible 741 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: with me so that I don't set myself up for 742 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: embarrassment and failure. The worst thing that could happen in 743 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: this moment, the worst thing as a bachelor bachelor as 744 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,800 Speaker 1: if you think this person loves you, you think you 745 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: you know you love them, you know yourself, and you 746 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: get down one knee and they say, I'm sorry, I can't. 747 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 1: Is that the worst thing? Or is it worst to 748 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: end up being with somebody who does say yes? Or 749 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: your proposal but didn't really mean it. I don't wish that. 750 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't wish that upon anybody. Yeah, that might be worse. 751 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: I think that's worse. Actually, yeah, that's the worst thing. 752 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: The second worst will be getting down one knee and 753 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 1: being embarrassed. But I would hope that if somebody didn't 754 00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: mean it, they would have left before that day. Yeah. Um, 755 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 1: But I think my big takeaway from Cassie's date hometown 756 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 1: date was that I think he likes the chase, and 757 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: I think there is a part of him that is 758 00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: scared deep down to be completely in mutual love with somebody. 759 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,799 Speaker 1: And I only say this because it is something that 760 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: I think I was very scared of ununtil the Bachelor 761 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: process kind of knocked it out of me. And I 762 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: always said that, like, I think I'll always end up 763 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: if like, if a guy ever ended up liking me 764 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: and then I liked him, and then he ended up 765 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: liking me and we were like got to the point 766 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: where we could be in a real relationship, I would 767 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 1: push him away and I'd be like, I don't like 768 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: him anymore. Gross, I don't like him. And I said 769 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: the one time that I go, I know that I 770 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: will find my husband. I know my husband will be 771 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: the one guy that I don't push away when it 772 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:48,879 Speaker 1: becomes mutual. And that's what happened. And look at Jared now. Uh, 773 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be an interesting last couple of weeks. 774 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: We've got a lot ahead of us coming up on 775 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 1: on this show and up on Colton's season. Also, we 776 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: gotta start talking who's gonna be the next bachelor at 777 00:37:58,560 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: I think we wait till next week to do that. 778 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: Right now, my front runners for Colton are handah gee, 779 00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: because I don't think Cassie makes to the end than Cassie, 780 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: than Tassia. Uh what do you think? I think that 781 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: I saw some stuff at Women Tell All last week, 782 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: like the fence jump, which makes me tell you confirmed 783 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,480 Speaker 1: to you, this is the most dramatic season you have 784 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: ever seen of my ten years of watching this show. 785 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: I it was I was so entertained. You guys, you 786 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: are in for something. No matter whether you think you've 787 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: been spoiled or whether you think the fence jump is 788 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: not going to live up to the expectations, because it 789 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: has just been previewed over and over again this season. 790 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: I swear to you you're going to be satisfied, and 791 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: more after the fence jump happens next week, satisfied as like, 792 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: are you serious? Yeah? And I got permission to tease that, 793 00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 1: so I don't even feel guilty telling you guys, so 794 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: like does this I mean, actually, you've got everybody on 795 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: the edge of their seats right now. In the next 796 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, two episodes, you were at a woman 797 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: tell all, so we didn't see the whole shebang. Usually 798 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: they show us a lot more than they showed us, 799 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: but the part that they showed of the fence jump 800 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: makes you be like, whoa, whoa. This is the most 801 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: ramatic season matter And and be honest here that's the 802 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: last question I don't want to think too deep. Is 803 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: it a facade? Is it fake? Or is this a 804 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: real like a real emotional reaction from Colton to jump 805 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: a fence. It's such a it's like a frenzy like 806 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: came over him and he didn't know what to do 807 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: and he just needed to escape, and like that was 808 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 1: what he did. Like it's truly an escape. And and 809 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: I saw it with the whole room of press and 810 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,360 Speaker 1: everybody was just floored. But also it had me being 811 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,959 Speaker 1: like I don't know how I'm going to not talk 812 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: about this for the next days, like next ten days, 813 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: because there was like a friend see coming over me 814 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: being like, oh my god, I must dissect this. I 815 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: must talk, I must talk. 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I have been asked so much 919 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 1: in the past week if I've met Ben's new girl, 920 00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, but I'm going to meet her 921 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: on the podcast next week. If this counts. I think 922 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,080 Speaker 1: it counts because I'm going to ask you some real questions, 923 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 1: some questions I would probably ask you if I was 924 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,680 Speaker 1: sitting across from you at dinner anyway, and have your 925 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:06,200 Speaker 1: permission to do so, you can grill this girl. Okay, Well, 926 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 1: my first question is for both of you. Ben, you 927 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,279 Speaker 1: found her on Instagram. You slid into her d M S. 928 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 1: I think you've talked about that on the podcast already. 929 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 1: My question is, how did you come across her Instagram? 930 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: Because she's not an influencer, she doesn't have a crazy 931 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,840 Speaker 1: amount of followers I did. This is the weirdest thing 932 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 1: I've ever heard. Somebody told me this week that eighty 933 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: weeks ago, Wells Adams liked one of your pictures, Jess 934 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:37,040 Speaker 1: and people want to know whether there's any connection there 935 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: as to you coming across our profile or is that 936 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:47,280 Speaker 1: just a Nashville connection connection, an old Old Miss connection 937 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,520 Speaker 1: because you went to Old Miss, Ben, do you like 938 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: have a grudge against Wells right now for for this? 939 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 1: You think he was trying to hit on her? No, 940 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: there's so much to this story, so much here, right, 941 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: And I just got a text last night. Actually Ashley 942 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:05,919 Speaker 1: Chris Strandberg knows Jessica. But here's a deal. Jessica has 943 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: never ever dated, nor has she kissed any other Bachelor people. 944 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: But here's here's the backstory of all this. So jess 945 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:19,239 Speaker 1: went to Old Miss with Wells Manning and Eli Manning. Yeah, 946 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: good for you. And so when I first started talking 947 00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: to jess I texted Wells because I saw that we 948 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:29,960 Speaker 1: both followed her, And I said, what do you know 949 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,480 Speaker 1: about this Jessica Clarker And he goes, I know she's 950 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: beautiful and if you're talking to her, you're a lucky guy. 951 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,480 Speaker 1: And so, um, I don't think jess tell me if 952 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. But there's no like really backstory to you 953 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,640 Speaker 1: and Wells' relationship, right, No, No, you guys want to 954 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: Old Miss like a decade apart though, So how'd that come? 955 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,600 Speaker 1: Across How that comes about? I mean, I was, I 956 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: guess it was just one of those things I honestly 957 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: couldn't tell you. I mean, he was keeping up with 958 00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: the you girls at all. Miss alright, alright, so then Ben, 959 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 1: how did you come across her Instagram? Yeah? So it's wild, 960 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: It's so funny. Um, here's a true story. I've kind 961 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: of held back on it for a little bit. But 962 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,120 Speaker 1: I was in uh, Nashville for fundraiser for Humane Hope 963 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: Night died, and we were doing this massive fundraiser, and 964 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: it was in August of two thousand and eighteen, and 965 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,719 Speaker 1: I was staying at a hotel downtown right by the 966 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,520 Speaker 1: Predator Stadium. And so what happened was I was checking 967 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,919 Speaker 1: in and there's a whole sports team checking in as well, 968 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,799 Speaker 1: and there are big dudes, and I knew they're like professional, 969 00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 1: but I didn't know who they were. None of them 970 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: have like any type of like logos on or anything. 971 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,279 Speaker 1: And so I go to my room and I got 972 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,359 Speaker 1: on Instagram and I looked up the top post because 973 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 1: I figured whoever was staying there had posted that they 974 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: were in Nashville or posted like there nearby. Well, so 975 00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 1: when I got on the top post section of my location, 976 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: which was the hotel. Jessica's picture popped up because she 977 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,440 Speaker 1: was at the Nashville Predator her game with her dad, 978 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: and I was just scrolling through and I saw this picture. 979 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: I was like, holy how this girl is gorgeous. Like, 980 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,239 Speaker 1: so I clicked on her her profile and then I 981 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: was like, but what am I gonna do with this? 982 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm not just gonna message her out of nowhere. 983 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,320 Speaker 1: This is creepy and this is weird, but this girl's 984 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:18,360 Speaker 1: gorgeous and so and in the most normal way possible, 985 00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: I screenshot him her profile without knowing her, and I 986 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: kind of forgot about it. And and then six months 987 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: later or actually no, not a little bit under. So 988 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,360 Speaker 1: I was in uh. I was an at home for Thanksgiving. 989 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: I was cleaning out my phone and I got back 990 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,160 Speaker 1: on my phone. As I was cleaning out, I came 991 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 1: across the picture of game and I was like, you 992 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: know what. I was looking up her pictures and I 993 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: saw her profile and I saw the way she she 994 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,360 Speaker 1: would comment on stuff, and I was like, you know what, 995 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna do it, And so I message her 996 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,279 Speaker 1: and I think, jess tell me if I'm wrong, but 997 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 1: I said something along the lines of, don't ask too 998 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: much of how I saw your profile. I can explain 999 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 1: that the dator, but if you're single, please message back. 1000 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: That is so cute. It is also cute the way 1001 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,120 Speaker 1: you screenshot it. Then you went back and you're like, 1002 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:05,759 Speaker 1: I like her interactions. You felt so compelled, and I 1003 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: think it was not because her just her appearance, but 1004 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,080 Speaker 1: like you kind of sensed a goodness from her, oh 1005 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 1: just way. I mean, Jessica has this like just very 1006 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: pure heart, and so yes, when you talked to her, 1007 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,080 Speaker 1: even for the first time, this is one of the things, Ashley, 1008 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 1: that I think is so awesome. So jess and I 1009 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,120 Speaker 1: was just texting back and forth for I think three days, 1010 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,240 Speaker 1: and I had texted her one day like I'm stressed 1011 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 1: out or there was something going on, or I asked 1012 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,320 Speaker 1: her some question from church that I was confused about. 1013 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,360 Speaker 1: And instead of just like texting back something small, she 1014 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: voice messaged me and kind of like took I don't know, 1015 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 1: forty five seconds to explain this topic that was really 1016 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: kind of laid on my heart. And I was like, Yes, 1017 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,040 Speaker 1: this is the type of person that I want to 1018 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,440 Speaker 1: I want to pursue at the best of my ability. 1019 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,720 Speaker 1: That is so adorable. So, jess how did you Jess 1020 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: or Jessica? Either one. I feel like most people just 1021 00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,960 Speaker 1: call me Jess's shorter Jessicas formal Jessica Clark sounds like 1022 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,800 Speaker 1: a movie star name. Thank You've actually never gotten that before. 1023 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, most people will just call me jes Okay, 1024 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 1: So what did you feel? What do you think when 1025 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,440 Speaker 1: you saw Ben Higgins slid into your d M s 1026 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: Are you a Bachelor fan? Did you know who he 1027 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 1: was or did you just see that blue checkmark and 1028 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 1: think who is this? Um? Well, first of all, I 1029 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:28,320 Speaker 1: mean I didn't follow him or anything, and so whenever 1030 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: I saw it, it was like Higgins dots in and 1031 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 1: so I thought it might just be like a spam 1032 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,200 Speaker 1: or something, because I mean, you have everyone has heard 1033 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,759 Speaker 1: of his name, you know, just being on Instagram or 1034 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 1: being a girl or whatever it may be. So I 1035 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,080 Speaker 1: thought it was just like some random spam account or 1036 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,160 Speaker 1: something miss doing me. So I didn't even check it 1037 00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 1: for a while, and then I went back and checked 1038 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 1: it and I saw like the blue tech mark, and 1039 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: I was like, this is interesting, and then kind of 1040 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,240 Speaker 1: looked and saw that it was him, and I was like, well, 1041 00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: I have no idea how he saw me because like 1042 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,399 Speaker 1: he says, like I was by no meat adam by 1043 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: no means an influencer, any of those things. So I 1044 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 1: had no idea how he fought my profile. So I, god, 1045 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: will look curious and replied to his message, but I was, Yeah, 1046 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,560 Speaker 1: at first, I didn't even think it was real. So 1047 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,760 Speaker 1: you're not a Bachelor fan, You weren't like you wouldn't 1048 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 1: freak out over You just thought it was a little weird. 1049 00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,920 Speaker 1: Did you think it was cute? His approach, the way 1050 00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: he said, don't ask how I came across your profile? Yeah, 1051 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 1: I thought it was really cute because like it was 1052 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: just it was very unassuming. Um, which is I mean 1053 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: still is one of my favorite qualities about Ben is 1054 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: he's just so like humble and I feel like he 1055 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,200 Speaker 1: doesn't realize how great he is. But him just being like, 1056 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 1: I don't even ask how I saw and you like 1057 00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 1: make you care. I don't know, it was it was 1058 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,600 Speaker 1: just very his whole approach to it. I need to 1059 00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,320 Speaker 1: find exactly what the first message said because I remember 1060 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: being like, this is hilarious and really cute. Did you 1061 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 1: have a Bachelor. Do you have Bachelor fan friends who geeked? Yes? Actually, um, 1062 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 1: some of my cousins listen to this podcast, so if 1063 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: they're listening, given this doubt out, but yeah, I have 1064 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:16,080 Speaker 1: friends that are fans, and um, I got invited to 1065 00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,320 Speaker 1: go watch The Bachelor denied one of my friends houses. 1066 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:23,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely, Jess, you have to tell everybody out 1067 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,239 Speaker 1: there though, UM, be honest, because I originally was not 1068 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:31,200 Speaker 1: talking to you. Who was I talking to? Oh my 1069 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,040 Speaker 1: little brother really helped me out with replying to messages. 1070 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I think it's common because I talked to 1071 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: more and more girls about this and tell them about 1072 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: how I met Jess, and I was like, yeah, but 1073 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: when I first semeshed her, she didn't know how to 1074 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,240 Speaker 1: respond everything, so she kind of let her brother help her. Um, 1075 00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,320 Speaker 1: and girls like, oh, I do that, like my best 1076 00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: guy friend or whoever. It is, like, I would let 1077 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 1: them message for me anytime, and guys trying to like 1078 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,800 Speaker 1: flirt with me. So I think that's common. It's really 1079 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,879 Speaker 1: really smart. But my sister always used to like crap 1080 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,359 Speaker 1: from my text too. I could never send a text 1081 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: to a guy that I liked without having her approval. No, 1082 00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 1: you've got to dance office some people because like especially me, 1083 00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,959 Speaker 1: then we'll tell you I have an interesting since it humor, 1084 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 1: sometimes it's a little done, and so I feel like 1085 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: I would have started to just like crack some joke 1086 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: chair there and they wouldn't have landed very well. So 1087 00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,919 Speaker 1: I had to have someone helped me out. It's hard 1088 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,399 Speaker 1: to have your first communication through text because you don't 1089 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,439 Speaker 1: have tone. You know, a lot of sarcasms cross. So 1090 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: speaking of when did you guys get on the phone 1091 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 1: and start talking to each other? Since that voice memo 1092 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 1: really made an impact on him? Right after I sent 1093 00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: the voice memo, Okay, yeah, way to make an impression. 1094 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: She took the first lead there. Yeah, she leaves a 1095 00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 1: voice memoh, and I was like, I cannot go any 1096 00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 1: longer without talking to her. Ashley, Uh, We've got a 1097 00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 1: lot more to ask Jessica. Jessica, this is part of 1098 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:04,280 Speaker 1: the podcasting world. We've got to tell everybody about Article 1099 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,280 Speaker 1: dot com. 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Okay, all right, Well everybody has 1138 00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:23,600 Speaker 1: been talking about the fact that you are so normal. 1139 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 1: Is that is that like offensive? Or You're like, yeah, 1140 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm normal. Isn't it great? I mean normal? I mean like, 1141 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: you're not famous, you haven't kissed multiple Bachelor contestants before you, 1142 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:40,320 Speaker 1: you didn't have a gigantic social media following before all this, 1143 00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: what do you do? Oh? Well, first of all, I 1144 00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 1: think that being normal is a compliment. I agrea talk 1145 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: about this all the time. I feel like this saying 1146 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,720 Speaker 1: that someone is like normal is so rare nowadays that 1147 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: I take that as a compliment. Um. But yeah, I 1148 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 1: mean I have a full time job by work in 1149 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 1: architectural lighting. So um, I'm in the sales department. I 1150 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,920 Speaker 1: meet with people and get their lighting packages for a 1151 00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,520 Speaker 1: new construction. So good to construction sites too. It's just 1152 00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: a very It's a great job. Live in Nashville, and yeah, 1153 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,479 Speaker 1: I just have a very, like we said, normal life. 1154 00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 1: Former d one long distance runner. Wow, that's awesome. That 1155 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,360 Speaker 1: was just part of college so just for a little bit. 1156 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 1: But do you guys work out together? Are you like 1157 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:41,520 Speaker 1: that couple? We haven't yet. The one time we had 1158 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,200 Speaker 1: the opportunity to, I had just gotten off the plane, 1159 00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:48,040 Speaker 1: so I let be and do that on his own. Yeah, 1160 00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: she did. But I'm worried about it, ask because I 1161 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, we've talked about before. I pride myself on 1162 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,439 Speaker 1: my running abilities, or you know, I want I try. 1163 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do a trap on the next two months, 1164 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,960 Speaker 1: and uh, I bet Jess if we were to sprint 1165 00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 1: a mile right now, with what her times are, she'd 1166 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:06,880 Speaker 1: beat me by over a minute. Like you know how 1167 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,520 Speaker 1: discouraging that is when a five ft two person just 1168 00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,760 Speaker 1: like sprints past you and just keeps going and you're 1169 00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:19,520 Speaker 1: trying to catch up. If I don't need it like 1170 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 1: that that, I can feel like, Okay, that's a little embarrassing, 1171 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:26,760 Speaker 1: but also it's kind of awesome that your lady can 1172 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 1: beat you. She can tear me up. I mean, it 1173 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't even be close, and she would, she would dominate me. 1174 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,440 Speaker 1: And the thing is with jess because you can probably 1175 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,800 Speaker 1: hear through this interview, she just kind of like giggles 1176 00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: and smiles like I don't, I don't. She's competitive, very competitive, 1177 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 1: but she's very like um sweet too, So I think 1178 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 1: she would probably run by and just giggle and laugh 1179 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: and smile, And I think that would make me so angry. 1180 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:57,400 Speaker 1: I probably would, I think, because I'm making that um so, 1181 00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:00,120 Speaker 1: you know, as we talked about, Jessica has this like 1182 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,000 Speaker 1: crazy crazy like I mean, normal life, but it's not 1183 01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: much different actually if we break down than ours, right, 1184 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, now we get to do podcasts and 1185 01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,240 Speaker 1: stuff like that, but our lives have kind of gone 1186 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,920 Speaker 1: after the show, everybody's life kind of goes back to 1187 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 1: normal per se um, and so for me, it's just 1188 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: awesome to be able to meet somebody that isn't having 1189 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:25,440 Speaker 1: massive expectations for where life needs to continue to go. 1190 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:29,919 Speaker 1: She's just she's really content and excited about wherever life 1191 01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: is taking us. That's awesome. So Ben lives in Denver. 1192 01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,840 Speaker 1: You live in Nashville? Are you born and raised there? Well? 1193 01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,800 Speaker 1: I was born in Atlanta, but I mean it's natural spot, 1194 01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:45,080 Speaker 1: so I play Nashville at home first. Okay, So I mean, 1195 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,080 Speaker 1: I know we were only three months in two year 1196 01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,200 Speaker 1: OLS relationship, and I don't want to like ask when 1197 01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,520 Speaker 1: there's like a move happening. That's way too early to tell. 1198 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:59,840 Speaker 1: But who's doing the most traveling? Is it equals be 1199 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: always coming to you? Are you always being sent to Denver? Bye? Ben? No, 1200 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,640 Speaker 1: it's been pretty equal. I feel like, um, we've definitely 1201 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,760 Speaker 1: done a good job of kind of going to both 1202 01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 1: places and spending some time in each other's tones, and 1203 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,480 Speaker 1: then we got to go to Hunters the other office. 1204 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,480 Speaker 1: So I would say at this point we've done a 1205 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: equal travel for sure. Ben. You know, I agree, we've 1206 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,120 Speaker 1: been equal. She's definitely put in more work, I think 1207 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 1: towards traveling, just because I've been gone and my schedule 1208 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 1: ge is crazy, and so it's hard for me to 1209 01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 1: bounce around. But we have. I mean, I've made it 1210 01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,200 Speaker 1: to Nashville, met her family, stayed with their family a 1211 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 1: few few days, got to meet her her dog, Penny, 1212 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 1: who's who's just a sweet old dog. Um. And it's working. 1213 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,160 Speaker 1: I do think this, and for anybody out there listening, 1214 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:51,520 Speaker 1: any advice on long distance relationships would be incredibly helpful. 1215 01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: So email us have been an Ashley I heart media 1216 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 1: dot com. But long distance hasn't been easy in the 1217 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:58,800 Speaker 1: sense of, hey, I want to see this girl, I 1218 01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:59,960 Speaker 1: want to hang out with this girl. I want to 1219 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: screwed me my family and my friends. And we're trying 1220 01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,480 Speaker 1: to do our best at that. But when a life 1221 01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,400 Speaker 1: is already busy, it's really hard to find, you know, 1222 01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 1: two or three days and then travel again even though 1223 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:12,480 Speaker 1: you want to. So we're trying to get better at it. 1224 01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get better at it and kind of 1225 01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: figure out how to do it well. But yeah, so far, 1226 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 1: I think it's been very even or equal. But we 1227 01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 1: definitely have had gone a month without seeing each other 1228 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,560 Speaker 1: and I don't that's not ideal for me. That's what 1229 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,240 Speaker 1: I was going to ask is how long has too 1230 01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 1: long been? And how how much is the goal time 1231 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 1: to see each other? Just how you want to see me? 1232 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:39,280 Speaker 1: I mean, well, we're honest every day. But realistically, she's 1233 01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 1: been smiling. This is entire interview. I truly have not 1234 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:51,120 Speaker 1: ever seen Ben this happy. She's great. Um oh yeah 1235 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 1: it realistically, I feel like after two weeks is when 1236 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 1: it really gets hard. And whenever we went a month, 1237 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:00,880 Speaker 1: it has been seeing each other, what three weeks, three 1238 01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: weeks in a row that time, right, yeah, and then 1239 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:05,680 Speaker 1: we went a month about seeing each other, so that 1240 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,720 Speaker 1: was like the work, So we can't have that happen again. 1241 01:03:10,560 --> 01:03:12,520 Speaker 1: How often do you FaceTime? Sorry, I'm getting to the 1242 01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 1: nitty gertie, Oh what we say? Time every day? Probably? Yeah, 1243 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 1: it's I mean, honestly, FaceTime is really great. We Jessica 1244 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,440 Speaker 1: has a really good friend whose husband is in the 1245 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: military and he, you know, gets deployed for months at 1246 01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: a time, and so we met with them for dinner 1247 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 1: one night. We're kind of asking them how they do 1248 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,680 Speaker 1: it because he's gone and sometimes they can't talk for 1249 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:38,280 Speaker 1: weeks on end. And I think the what we found 1250 01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,920 Speaker 1: out is that FaceTime is the saver. Like it is. 1251 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a benefit now the relationships that 1252 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 1: you can still see the person, you can still interact 1253 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 1: with them, but you know, it's still better to be 1254 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,240 Speaker 1: around them. But yeah, I think we FaceTime every day 1255 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,200 Speaker 1: and there's no reason not to. Yeah, I don't think. 1256 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:55,760 Speaker 1: Uh now, I know Ben said that there was the 1257 01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: moment where he was like, I want to I didn't 1258 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: want to go after this girl, you know, I would 1259 01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,560 Speaker 1: really want to pursue her, which was when you sent 1260 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 1: that voice memo. In real life, was there a moment, 1261 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,440 Speaker 1: like a bonding moment in which you guys said, Okay, 1262 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:12,440 Speaker 1: this is gonna be something serious. Do you remember our 1263 01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,160 Speaker 1: conversation like that that you're willing to talk about. Ben's nodding, 1264 01:04:17,200 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: But I don't know. If you want to keep it private, 1265 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 1: that's fine, Jesse, what are you gonna say? Uh? You know, 1266 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,480 Speaker 1: Jessica came out to Denver for the first time and 1267 01:04:29,560 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 1: what happened was ash is We. It was a night 1268 01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 1: of Ashkara's opening, so the restaurant opening was the same 1269 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 1: night and the night before I've been working all night 1270 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: trying to get set up for the restaurant open up. 1271 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 1: And I had texted her was like a Thursday, and 1272 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 1: I said, Jess, we would talk for three weeks at 1273 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 1: this point four weeks. It's getting it's great, it's good. Um, 1274 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,240 Speaker 1: I feel like I know you really well, but I'm 1275 01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 1: just tired of just talking to you. I need to 1276 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 1: get you out here. And I said, how about you 1277 01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:56,640 Speaker 1: book a flight and flight out here tomorrow and so 1278 01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,440 Speaker 1: she did. Um, she agreed and she flew out and 1279 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,320 Speaker 1: then I had the I started opening. She didn't land 1280 01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:04,000 Speaker 1: and get to my house till it's probably close to midnight. 1281 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:07,240 Speaker 1: So I was tired and had been at the restaurant opening. 1282 01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:09,960 Speaker 1: And I walked outside and she's standing there and we 1283 01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:13,440 Speaker 1: like embraced and we hugged, and she came inside. Um, 1284 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:16,480 Speaker 1: we just started talking again and it was so comfortable, 1285 01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,520 Speaker 1: so amazing, and I felt like I know this knew 1286 01:05:19,560 --> 01:05:21,800 Speaker 1: this girl so well, and she was even more beautiful 1287 01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,120 Speaker 1: in person than she was on FaceTime or through Instagram whatever. 1288 01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:25,960 Speaker 1: That was like that was a moment for me that 1289 01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 1: it just clicked that, Um, this was something special like 1290 01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,120 Speaker 1: this was going to be something that I was excited 1291 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 1: about for a long time. So for me, it was 1292 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 1: at first interaction in person, which obviously feels fast, but 1293 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 1: when you FaceTime and you're talk on the phone for 1294 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,000 Speaker 1: three and a half weeks straight, you really get to 1295 01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 1: know the person. I was gonna say, how nerve racking 1296 01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,680 Speaker 1: was that for you just to like fly out to 1297 01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:55,360 Speaker 1: a different city to stay over at a guy's house 1298 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 1: that you had never met before, and you're like, Okay, 1299 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 1: this is like that awkward moments like we kind of 1300 01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,000 Speaker 1: know each other, but like we've never even felt each 1301 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:09,360 Speaker 1: other's skin, like we've never even touched. Well, it was 1302 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:13,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I wanted to see him so badly obviously, 1303 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,120 Speaker 1: so when he suggested, I was like all in, like 1304 01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 1: all about it. And then my flight got lit. My 1305 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,600 Speaker 1: original flight got delayed, so I got on another flight barely. 1306 01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 1: I made it by like thirty minutes. But I was 1307 01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,280 Speaker 1: sitting in the airport and I was facetiming one of 1308 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,360 Speaker 1: my friends and she was like, have you thought about 1309 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:34,920 Speaker 1: like what you're getting, like catfish or something. I was like, 1310 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 1: I was like, well no, because I was like this 1311 01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 1: time he was like if you're like, well, yeah, but 1312 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,000 Speaker 1: what if feel like going to the wrong house or something, 1313 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 1: because like I mean, he had a dressmar opening, so 1314 01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 1: he wasn't taking up from the airport or whatever. And 1315 01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 1: I was like, I really haven't even thought about this. 1316 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 1: And it was rightfaspar I got on the plane. When 1317 01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,200 Speaker 1: I get on the plane and I land in Denver, 1318 01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 1: and I called in to tell him so I know 1319 01:06:58,440 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: that I landed, and he didn't answer because he was 1320 01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,640 Speaker 1: a restaurant is ny and it was I mean, it 1321 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,120 Speaker 1: was probably three minutes before he called me back, like 1322 01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't very long, but I was on the airplane 1323 01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,640 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, I'm stuck in Denver. 1324 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:15,960 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody not answering his phone. Like my 1325 01:07:16,040 --> 01:07:20,200 Speaker 1: friend was right, I was breaking out. So then when 1326 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:21,960 Speaker 1: he called me, and then he called me the whole 1327 01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,960 Speaker 1: uber ride to his house and then when I saw him, 1328 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,960 Speaker 1: it was just like, I mean, the exact same thing. 1329 01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,640 Speaker 1: It was like I've known him for forever, and um, 1330 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:34,720 Speaker 1: I wasn't nervous at all. It was immediately very very comfortable. Okay, 1331 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: So then how did your first kiss him up come about? 1332 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: Can I ask that? Yeah, you can ask that. How 1333 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:48,800 Speaker 1: did that come about? Um, as soon as you saw me, 1334 01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 1: it was Yeah. I think I walked outside and just 1335 01:07:51,920 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 1: laid it. Yeah. Yeah, how romantic. I think it was romantic. Yeah, 1336 01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 1: I mean I thought it was drantic, mostly because when 1337 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,880 Speaker 1: I saw you, I was like, okay, do I make 1338 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,840 Speaker 1: a differ? I just say hi, and then he just 1339 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:08,880 Speaker 1: kiss me, so I didn't have to do either of them. 1340 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, that's what happens when you date a bachelor. 1341 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,679 Speaker 1: Like what he's doing. He's not worried about kissing women 1342 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: for the first time. He just made the grand move. Damn. 1343 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 1: Then this went for it and she didn't say, all right, 1344 01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:30,200 Speaker 1: well that is the best way to make that situation 1345 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,040 Speaker 1: not awkward. You're like, we do know each other, it 1346 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,559 Speaker 1: doesn't matter we've never been in the same room together. Okay. Um, 1347 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,200 Speaker 1: last question is that you were Ben seemed to moved 1348 01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:43,160 Speaker 1: by that one voice memo, which seems to have come 1349 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,600 Speaker 1: about because it's something that he heard in church. Do 1350 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,000 Speaker 1: you share his faith because I know that's super important 1351 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: for him to find somebody who does. Yes. I mean, 1352 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:55,200 Speaker 1: that was one of the first conversations he has and 1353 01:08:55,320 --> 01:08:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm so thankful. I think Ben actually brought it up. 1354 01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: But I feel like that's just the foundation that if 1355 01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:03,679 Speaker 1: you share your faith, don't share your faith, whatever your beliefs, 1356 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 1: maybe you have to have that fundamental sounds like you 1357 01:09:08,160 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 1: have to agree on these fundamentals, and then from there 1358 01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 1: you can build relationships. So we have the foundational belief 1359 01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 1: and from there you've been able to those relationships. Mm hmm, 1360 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:21,240 Speaker 1: that's true. I mean, I think the one thing and 1361 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 1: Jess knows us about me, and I think most people 1362 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:26,200 Speaker 1: out there listening now, is my faith is is I mean, 1363 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:30,640 Speaker 1: I believe in Christ as much as I can and 1364 01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 1: and but what happens with that is my like life 1365 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,639 Speaker 1: has also been full of a bunch of doubts and questions, 1366 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: and my mind kind of goes in a thousands of 1367 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,160 Speaker 1: correct directions, and it's hard for me to comprehend who 1368 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 1: God is and what he's trying to do in the 1369 01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 1: specific moments. And Jess is just consistent. She's a great listener, 1370 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,920 Speaker 1: she's incredibly intelligent and able to talk through some of 1371 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,480 Speaker 1: those things. And and for me, that's just beyond exciting 1372 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 1: that I have somebody that not only just like like 1373 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 1: to laugh with and and joke with with it you 1374 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,080 Speaker 1: know when when I sit down, I mean, there's not 1375 01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 1: a day go by that I think I don't text 1376 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,400 Speaker 1: Jess like, oh, I'm struggling with this. I mean, I 1377 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,000 Speaker 1: honestly I struggle a lot. I think she's understanding that now, 1378 01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:09,519 Speaker 1: and she just every time responds with like just such 1379 01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:13,160 Speaker 1: patience and grace and understanding and just willing to just 1380 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 1: let me like pour out whatever it is on my heart. 1381 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,400 Speaker 1: And so she definitely shares the same faith, and if anything, 1382 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,760 Speaker 1: she pushes me to explore like even closer relationship with 1383 01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:26,640 Speaker 1: God than I have today. So yes, I have a 1384 01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,760 Speaker 1: question for Jess. If you don't mind, it's hi Jeff. 1385 01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:37,280 Speaker 1: My name is Marky. Have you been tempted to go 1386 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:41,880 Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime and watch Ben season? No, I don't 1387 01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 1: want to see him with a bunch of other girls. 1388 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,160 Speaker 1: I don't blame you, but I feel like you've just 1389 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,240 Speaker 1: curious to even watched the first episode, even just for laughs, 1390 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:52,240 Speaker 1: and how young he looks are, how silly things you 1391 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,720 Speaker 1: can make fun of him about. I don't know. I 1392 01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:55,280 Speaker 1: don't know that I could was just a temptation. If 1393 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 1: it was me, I haven't really thought about just watching 1394 01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:02,000 Speaker 1: the first time. Maybe I would watch it with him. 1395 01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 1: You know that I can make fun of him. Can 1396 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,760 Speaker 1: I give you a suggestion just so you can fall 1397 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 1: deeper in love with with Ben And I don't want 1398 01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,599 Speaker 1: to like, you know, just boom the love word there, 1399 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,639 Speaker 1: but just go with it. Um, you should watch the 1400 01:11:15,640 --> 01:11:18,759 Speaker 1: The Day on Caitlin Bristow season in which he gives 1401 01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 1: a sex talk to the kids in a like third 1402 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:25,040 Speaker 1: grade class. It is it's the moment that America, I think, 1403 01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:29,080 Speaker 1: fell in love with Ben, when he became the perfect Ben. Yes, 1404 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,400 Speaker 1: and then you will be able. You won't see him 1405 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 1: kissing her or anything. It's just like one scene just talking, 1406 01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:39,040 Speaker 1: just talking about ovarias and semen and everything and you 1407 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:43,479 Speaker 1: definitely I would like to see how you present that 1408 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:47,160 Speaker 1: topic that could say a lot about you. It was 1409 01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:50,680 Speaker 1: so good. It was improbably just before let you go, 1410 01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,439 Speaker 1: because I know you've got a ton of lights to sell. 1411 01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,560 Speaker 1: Um and uh, I want. I think it would be 1412 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 1: on the podcast multiple times in the future, you know, 1413 01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:01,080 Speaker 1: with all this happening right now, right mean, just let's 1414 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,960 Speaker 1: focus on the new relationship and everything going on in 1415 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,479 Speaker 1: our lives. You just down to Honduras and you get 1416 01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,400 Speaker 1: to to see my life a little bit more, UM, 1417 01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,360 Speaker 1: can you let all of our listeners out there, because 1418 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna be massive fans of yours. They're just gonna 1419 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,599 Speaker 1: love you so much. UM Like, if if all this 1420 01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,560 Speaker 1: wherever this goes, what do you hope? What do you 1421 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:24,760 Speaker 1: hope your legacy is in this world? UM? I just 1422 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,760 Speaker 1: hope that people leave every interact with me, whether it 1423 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:33,360 Speaker 1: be on social media or in person or UM on 1424 01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 1: your podcast or whatever it may be, and they just 1425 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,840 Speaker 1: feel like it was a positive interaction. So whether that's 1426 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:42,720 Speaker 1: um all these people going to my Instagram page and 1427 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,479 Speaker 1: just be in that I live in normal life and 1428 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,200 Speaker 1: that makes them feel better about their normal lives, or 1429 01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:53,120 Speaker 1: if um I can give an encouraging word or as 1430 01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 1: there someone in their space, or whatever it may be. 1431 01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,879 Speaker 1: I just hope that people leave interactions with me feeling positive. 1432 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,640 Speaker 1: You are seriously a perfect match for Ben Higgins. I 1433 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:07,400 Speaker 1: am so excited to see where your relationship goes. And 1434 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm so happy to see this incredibly lit face that 1435 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,720 Speaker 1: he has the entire time he talks to you. So 1436 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:17,519 Speaker 1: thank you for coming on, Jess. I had way more 1437 01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 1: questions than I ever thought I would, and he's in 1438 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:24,040 Speaker 1: a good sport well, you can get my number from 1439 01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,000 Speaker 1: then and you can ask me. Oh, I think I've 1440 01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:28,080 Speaker 1: donne for now. I just I look forward to the 1441 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:31,920 Speaker 1: time that we actually can have us sit down dinner. Yes, 1442 01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 1: all right, we'll talk to you later. Thank you so much. 1443 01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:42,160 Speaker 1: Than bye, Ben. Are you the cutest right now? Are 1444 01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,120 Speaker 1: you just so happy? So I'm so proud of her. 1445 01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:51,479 Speaker 1: She's so great. She's perfect for you. Yeah, it's wild. 1446 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,160 Speaker 1: She's really great. And I mean, if you just saw 1447 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,679 Speaker 1: the way that she interacts with people, like she said, 1448 01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,720 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's so inspiring and encouraging to me. 1449 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,720 Speaker 1: Like when I I think I've talked about on the 1450 01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:04,680 Speaker 1: podcast before, one of my worst qualities is that I 1451 01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,800 Speaker 1: dismiss people pretty quickly, Like if if something happens and 1452 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,160 Speaker 1: they maybe make me angry or I feel like they 1453 01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 1: aren't living up to my expectations, or they've said something 1454 01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,720 Speaker 1: that does something like I dismissed them, and that's not good. 1455 01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,679 Speaker 1: I don't like any second of that. And I'm I'm 1456 01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:21,880 Speaker 1: combating that, and it's a struggle that consistently face um. 1457 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,400 Speaker 1: And it's amazing that when Jess like interacts with people 1458 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,240 Speaker 1: and I know they're doing things that maybe like upset 1459 01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,640 Speaker 1: her or hurt her, they have said something to like 1460 01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:34,599 Speaker 1: push make distance between them. She just leans in and 1461 01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,559 Speaker 1: and try and goes farther into them and doesn't dismiss them. 1462 01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,800 Speaker 1: She just loves them harder and more. And for me, 1463 01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:43,320 Speaker 1: that's just such a a good example for me on 1464 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:44,800 Speaker 1: on how I need to deal with people and how 1465 01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,719 Speaker 1: I want to deal with people. So, yeah, this Jessica 1466 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:52,240 Speaker 1: Clark girl, she's something special. That's the perfect compliment for you. 1467 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 1: All Right, Hey, I don't know how we move on 1468 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,280 Speaker 1: to it, but we're to move on to it from 1469 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:04,320 Speaker 1: this with one of the wildest craziest stories to ever 1470 01:15:04,479 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 1: occur in Bachelor Nation, a feud between Mike Fliss and 1471 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:13,240 Speaker 1: the Kardashians. Actually, Jared and I were like, we're not 1472 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:15,960 Speaker 1: getting into this because it's so many Bachelor people were, 1473 01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,080 Speaker 1: you know, given their two cents on Twitter on Saturday night, 1474 01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:23,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, no, I'm going to sit back, Dad, 1475 01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:28,439 Speaker 1: You're embarrassing me, is what we joked. Oh, it's insane, 1476 01:15:29,400 --> 01:15:33,640 Speaker 1: It's absolutely insane. So here, um, let's start out this 1477 01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,559 Speaker 1: conversation as by giving a little background. We've got an 1478 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,080 Speaker 1: email from Katie. I read this article about a possibility 1479 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,519 Speaker 1: of Chloe Kardashian becoming the next Bachelor. Of having someone 1480 01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 1: so famous would change the field the show. In my opinion, 1481 01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 1: I could see it being really fun to watch. But 1482 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,880 Speaker 1: in Ashley, I'm dying to hear your thoughts. So, Ashley, 1483 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,880 Speaker 1: before we get into what happened okay with the feud 1484 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,799 Speaker 1: between Mike Fleiss and the Kardashians, what do you think? 1485 01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:01,320 Speaker 1: Obviously this gets brought up because is Tristan Thompson has 1486 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:05,600 Speaker 1: um I guess cheated on Chloe Kardashian with one of 1487 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:09,120 Speaker 1: their best friends. Um that comes out in the news, 1488 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,519 Speaker 1: and now Mike Flye tweets Chloe Kardashian could be the 1489 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,920 Speaker 1: next Batch? Right? Do you like this idea? I mean, 1490 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,240 Speaker 1: if this was the case right now, let's say Chloe Kardashian, 1491 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,519 Speaker 1: or let's say Cardi B. Or whoever it is out 1492 01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:22,479 Speaker 1: there that's famous and single. I don't know if Cardi 1493 01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:24,880 Speaker 1: B's even single anymore? Do you like the idea of 1494 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:28,400 Speaker 1: them being the bachelor? At so? I understand people's point 1495 01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 1: of view when they say that they want like a 1496 01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:33,000 Speaker 1: regular person, somebody who doesn't have all the fame and 1497 01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,679 Speaker 1: fortune to get the opportunity. Totally get it. The only 1498 01:16:36,720 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 1: reason that I like it is because we've followed Chloe's 1499 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,360 Speaker 1: love life for the past decade. We've seen her struggles 1500 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:48,080 Speaker 1: between her marriage with Lamar and now this second cheating 1501 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:52,400 Speaker 1: stint by Tristan, and I think like Chloe has always 1502 01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:55,040 Speaker 1: been a rootable Kardashian. I think she's always been the 1503 01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,720 Speaker 1: one that everybody like. Even if you're not into the Kardashians, 1504 01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,960 Speaker 1: you you feel for Chloe. And I just feel like 1505 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,280 Speaker 1: it would be cool because even though most of us 1506 01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,800 Speaker 1: have never met her, we still like we we feel 1507 01:17:06,840 --> 01:17:09,800 Speaker 1: for her, and we feel like we know her, so 1508 01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:12,920 Speaker 1: almost like watching like your friend from TV go and 1509 01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 1: find love. That's why I like it, But I understand 1510 01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:20,240 Speaker 1: why people wouldn't like it too. And I also Chloe 1511 01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 1: doesn't want to be the bachelorrette, so I'm not I'm 1512 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,439 Speaker 1: not talking about her. You know, no, Chloe understand we are. 1513 01:17:25,560 --> 01:17:29,599 Speaker 1: We're using this click fait, and I'm so sorry, actually 1514 01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:32,959 Speaker 1: so protective enough, But I mean, here's actually, here's my concern. 1515 01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,920 Speaker 1: There's ultimately an end in all of this. At some 1516 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:39,040 Speaker 1: point the show will end. How do you if you 1517 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,720 Speaker 1: have like a Kardashian or if you have somebody extremely 1518 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:47,080 Speaker 1: popular and famous as your bachelor or bachelor, how then 1519 01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 1: do you move on? You can't sustain that, and so 1520 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:52,559 Speaker 1: then does the show go back to the formatutes at now? 1521 01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:54,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like that's the beginning of the 1522 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,280 Speaker 1: end once you kind of have this massive name as 1523 01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,360 Speaker 1: your front runner. Yeah, it's kind of like jumping the shark, 1524 01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,680 Speaker 1: which is an expression when like the shows lose it. 1525 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, maybe go out with a bang, Maybe go 1526 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,080 Speaker 1: out with a celebrity, which would be kind of cool, 1527 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,240 Speaker 1: but probably keep it the way it's been for a while, 1528 01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 1: because look, you've gotten eighteen years of success from bringing 1529 01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,599 Speaker 1: randoms to find love, So why messed the formula? I 1530 01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:24,880 Speaker 1: agree you, Spie will kind of let this fade out, 1531 01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,080 Speaker 1: that's my fear. But Ben, I think that the reason 1532 01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,639 Speaker 1: that this became so hot was because it was such 1533 01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,719 Speaker 1: a hot topic last week between you know, the whole 1534 01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:37,400 Speaker 1: the whole Kardashian drama, but also it happened the day 1535 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:42,160 Speaker 1: after a big Bachelor episode in which people were feeling 1536 01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,920 Speaker 1: like they don't have a clear front runner for Bachelorette 1537 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,800 Speaker 1: because so many of the raigning girls are twenty three 1538 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,160 Speaker 1: or twenty four and I think that people aren't going 1539 01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,000 Speaker 1: to be okay with the twenty or twenty four year 1540 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:54,719 Speaker 1: old bachelor. And even though the season has been so compelling, 1541 01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,280 Speaker 1: there isn't a clear front runner for Bachelor wrette. And 1542 01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:59,320 Speaker 1: then it was like, oh wait, now we have an answer. 1543 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,840 Speaker 1: And that's why the Chloe thing picked up steam so fast. Well, 1544 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,639 Speaker 1: and obviously it's such a a creative idea. I feel 1545 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,320 Speaker 1: like Mike Fliss always knows what he's doing. I mean, 1546 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,040 Speaker 1: he just he knew what he was doing here. He 1547 01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:13,599 Speaker 1: knew that this wasn't gonna be a thing, and it works. 1548 01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:15,320 Speaker 1: So here, everybody out there listening, I'll give you a 1549 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,639 Speaker 1: little rundown. As we talked about Chloe Kardashian was rumored 1550 01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,639 Speaker 1: to be and talk to me the next Bachelor at 1551 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,880 Speaker 1: by show creator Mike Fleiss. Mike Fleiss stayed very open 1552 01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:28,080 Speaker 1: about this idea by tweeting about it on his Twitter saying, Hey, 1553 01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm just here to help Chloe Kardashian find love. Um, 1554 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:34,920 Speaker 1: we're in talks with her mom. All of these things. 1555 01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:37,479 Speaker 1: Batchelor Nation starts to jump on board with it. I know, 1556 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:41,120 Speaker 1: Tanner Tolbert tweeted, I know, Amanda Stanton tweeted both excited 1557 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:46,200 Speaker 1: about the idea and as this is happening, Chloe has 1558 01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:50,400 Speaker 1: this response on her Twitter, I'm not effing clickbait right now, 1559 01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,720 Speaker 1: stop or you will be hearing from my lawyers. How insensitive. 1560 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:59,400 Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian then tweets fake effing news big time. I 1561 01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,240 Speaker 1: mean there he he did. I mean, think about all 1562 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,280 Speaker 1: the things said about them, think about all the news 1563 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,600 Speaker 1: that's ever spread about them, and they're actually personally responding 1564 01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:11,719 Speaker 1: to this, which makes me think, Ashley, is this really 1565 01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 1: a thing? Like are they mad or are they all 1566 01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:19,760 Speaker 1: on this together? No, they're mad because because Flace does 1567 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,479 Speaker 1: what he does, and he loves cryptic tweets that make 1568 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,640 Speaker 1: us all talk. I don't think he thought he was 1569 01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,160 Speaker 1: going to get actually caught here, Like, I don't think 1570 01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:30,960 Speaker 1: he think he thought they were going to go to 1571 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,760 Speaker 1: the next step, in which he says, how would Kim 1572 01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:38,120 Speaker 1: Kardashian know this is between Chris Jenner and and and 1573 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,880 Speaker 1: most importantly Chloe Kardashian. Well, it's like, Mike, what do 1574 01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:42,960 Speaker 1: you think they are a close family? We all know 1575 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,840 Speaker 1: they're close family and they're very uh together when it 1576 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:51,719 Speaker 1: comes to business. So Kim then responds with a screenshot saying, 1577 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,320 Speaker 1: are you guys in talks with the Bachelorette, And then 1578 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,519 Speaker 1: Chris goes no, L O L and then Chloe says, you, 1579 01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 1: I mean put some respect behind my game, which I 1580 01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:04,280 Speaker 1: think all of us who are Kardashian fans in the 1581 01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:12,360 Speaker 1: Bachelor family. But reading that and then let's see that 1582 01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:16,760 Speaker 1: I didn't like it. Don't don't tell me to put 1583 01:21:16,920 --> 01:21:20,200 Speaker 1: that that being in the Bachelor A bachelor isn't respectful. 1584 01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you can make it respectful. There has been 1585 01:21:22,280 --> 01:21:25,000 Speaker 1: people on the show that have not carried themselves with respect, 1586 01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 1: and I came off the show and had less respect respect. 1587 01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,760 Speaker 1: But we're all people, no matter if you're a Kardashian 1588 01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,960 Speaker 1: or a Kardashian West, or if you're Chloe or Kim 1589 01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 1: or Chris, or if you're somebody that got gets kicked 1590 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,320 Speaker 1: off on night one, you we are people. And I mean, 1591 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 1: let's be honest, at the end of the day, we're 1592 01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,880 Speaker 1: all just on reality television. Or let's bring it down 1593 01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,559 Speaker 1: even further, we're all just living in a reality and 1594 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:52,160 Speaker 1: so let's I don't love just like I don't disrespect 1595 01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:56,280 Speaker 1: the Kardashian family or who you know what for whatever 1596 01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:00,320 Speaker 1: they do. I don't love that tweet. Tax I don't 1597 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,040 Speaker 1: love the text either, And it's weird because I think 1598 01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:07,640 Speaker 1: this whole thing became even even bigger than just speculation 1599 01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 1: because Chris Jenner has been outspoken about being a Bachelor fan. 1600 01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:16,200 Speaker 1: So to me, when Mike Flice was saying in talks 1601 01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:20,280 Speaker 1: with Chris Jenner, which is obviously Chloe's manager, I was like, oh, wait, 1602 01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,200 Speaker 1: this could actually be real because I know that he 1603 01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:26,559 Speaker 1: probably does have her number because she's come on The 1604 01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:30,360 Speaker 1: Bachelor in Paradise after show like she's she's called in before, 1605 01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 1: and she's been on the show like she's a fan. 1606 01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:35,160 Speaker 1: So I thought there could be some legitimacy to it. 1607 01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I hosted The Bachelor in Paradise after show 1608 01:22:38,439 --> 01:22:41,599 Speaker 1: and my Bachelor after show because back when I was Bachelor, 1609 01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:44,400 Speaker 1: we had an after show. Yeah, um with her, I 1610 01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,120 Speaker 1: mean she was there, so yeah, this isn't a crazy idea. 1611 01:22:47,720 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean, but again, this whole thing gets wild. It 1612 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,000 Speaker 1: feels so big. I mean, it's one of those moments. 1613 01:22:54,040 --> 01:22:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if it meant to turn into this 1614 01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:57,720 Speaker 1: or not, but it feels so big when you have 1615 01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,439 Speaker 1: I mean I'm looking at Kim's profile right now. Just 1616 01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 1: a tweet that she did that had dot dot dot 1617 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,880 Speaker 1: Mike Flies has over a hundred and forty thousand likes. 1618 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if this isn't great for the show, I 1619 01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:13,360 Speaker 1: don't know one is. Mike Fly finishes this conversation by 1620 01:23:13,439 --> 01:23:15,559 Speaker 1: tweeting one of the things we look for and choosing 1621 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,360 Speaker 1: the Bachelor apt is a great sense of humor. Might 1622 01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,920 Speaker 1: be time to look elsewhere. I sincerely offered our assistance. 1623 01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:25,080 Speaker 1: If a certain someone thinks here she doesn't need our 1624 01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:28,800 Speaker 1: help to find true love, so be it. And that's 1625 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 1: the end of the conversation. Ashley, do you like this story? Like? 1626 01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,200 Speaker 1: Is this? Is this something that it's funny? Um? For 1627 01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,160 Speaker 1: our listeners out there, please let us know how you 1628 01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,200 Speaker 1: feel about this kind of stuff. Is it just is 1629 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 1: it hard to watch? Is it personal to you because 1630 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:46,320 Speaker 1: you like the show so much? Um? Or is it 1631 01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,559 Speaker 1: just hilarious? Like? Is how do how do we view this? 1632 01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,479 Speaker 1: I think it was all good drama. I think it 1633 01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:52,960 Speaker 1: was all fun to watch on Saturday night, But I 1634 01:23:53,280 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 1: think from being a part of the Bachelor family, it 1635 01:23:56,600 --> 01:23:59,680 Speaker 1: was kind of sad to see Kim and Chloe. Do 1636 01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,160 Speaker 1: you a little the franchise. But if I were just 1637 01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,200 Speaker 1: a regular view or I'd be like, oh, I'm meeting 1638 01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:07,160 Speaker 1: all this up. Yeah, don't act like you're not watching Kardashians. 1639 01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,760 Speaker 1: I'm watching you, You're watching us. 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