1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:01,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 2: In hour number two Clay Travis buck Sexton Show, we 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 2: thank all of you for hanging out with us. A 4 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: bunch of different news stories in the works as we 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: are speaking to all of you. The Artemis two crew 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 2: is suiting up ahead of their launch down in Florida 7 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 2: to return to orbit the Moon for the first time 8 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: in decades. Jared Isaacman was on with us yesterday, the 9 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: head of NASA, talking about how this is setting the 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 2: table for a moon base and one day humans on 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 2: the surface of Mars, which is pretty cool. 12 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: What is your favorite space movie all time? Space the 13 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: Final Frontier favorite movie. I'm leaving a very broad here. 14 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: That's a very good question. I don't even know that 15 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 2: I that I have one that is. I probably was 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 2: Paul thirteen. Probably was Paul thirteen with Tom Hanks about 17 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: the Space crew and having to come back. I think 18 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 2: that's the answer. Is there a better one? 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 1: That's the answer I would expect from somebody who spent 20 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,760 Speaker 1: his vacations going to Civil War camp and Supreme Court arguments, fine. 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: Aliens, wars and stuff everything big NERD. Star Wars is 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: the answer. I mean Star Wars. I thought you meant 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: like an actual space. Move Star Wars, Empire strikes back. 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 1: Empire strikes back. That's respectable. You've gone, you've gone less 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: Nerd Apollo thirteen. Well, I thought you. 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 2: Were specifically saying, like a real not science fiction. 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: Did you go to NASA camp too? With Claric. I 28 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: want to be an astronaut one day. I want to 29 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 1: be zero gravity. 30 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: Wara has been to space camp multiple times, I think, 31 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: but with our boys because they have parent kid space camp. 32 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,559 Speaker 1: That's like a nice family thing. Yeah. 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's been multiple times. I think she's ready to 34 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: go to space if she needed to. So yeah, I 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: mean Star Wars is the obvious answer. But I thought 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: you meant like actual rocket space, like real life time 37 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: you've seen aliens, right, yeah, wow, oh. 38 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: Oh oh oh light him up, everybody light him up. 39 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: He's throwing James Cameron's aliens. He's not giving that it's due. 40 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: That's madness to me. Madness. 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: So Artemis two that is going to take off SpaceX 42 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 2: going public. I think that's probably intentional to double up 43 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: there for the biggest ipo potentially in the history of capitalism, 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 2: supposed to happen in July. Would not shock me if 45 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: you must tried to do it around July fourth, if 46 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: that's true, to celebrate America's two hundred and fiftieth I 47 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 2: can see a lot of positivity associated with that, but Buck, 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: I am still super fired up. I was watching all 49 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 2: the birthright citizenship arguments and I thought, let me give 50 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 2: you a couple of things. First of all, and again 51 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 2: this is nerding out, there is a difference between two 52 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 2: different types of citizenship. One of them is not controversial 53 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 2: at all. If your parents are citizens of a country, 54 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: then you should become a citizen of that country when 55 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 2: you are born. I think everybody gets that, and that 56 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 2: applies even if you are on a base in Germany, 57 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 2: or one day, if you're on Mars and you have 58 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: and your parents are American and they have a baby, 59 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 2: you should be an American citizen. I think everybody gets it. 60 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: The other one is by soil, and I didn't think 61 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 2: that the advocate here, John Sower, really did a good 62 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: job historically explaining what's going on personally, because by soil 63 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: citizenship is very rare and nowhere in Europe. He did 64 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: mention we played that audio, you can't become a citizen 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 2: in China. You can't become a citizen of Japan. So 66 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: I have got two different things that to me, buck 67 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: would make sense. All right, solutions right, because Congress can't 68 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 2: do anything we did like, won't do anything, can't manage 69 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 2: to get anything passed. However, you want to contextualize this, 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: but tell me what you think about these two solutions. 71 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: One mutuality. If we can't become citizens of your country, 72 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: then you should not be able to become citizens of 73 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: our country. 74 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: Let me explain how that would work. 75 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: If you and I got invited to Beijing and one 76 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: of us had a wife who was pregnant. Laura has 77 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 2: had three Let's say carry is pregnant and suddenly she 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: had a baby in Beijing. That baby would not be Chinese. 79 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: Why should Americans be able to travel to China and 80 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: have babies there and their kids do not. Our kids 81 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: do not become citizens of China, but Chinese citizens become 82 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: citizens of America. One easy solution to me that is 83 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 2: very commonplace is reciprocity. If you are not doing for 84 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 2: us what we are doing for you, then it should 85 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 2: not ex That seems very logical, very common sense. There's 86 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 2: a lot of examples of this. For instance, in law, 87 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: sometimes you can wave in to other jurisdictions and become 88 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: a lawyer for purposes of practice in other states. But 89 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 2: it's very common that if one state, let's say I'm 90 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 2: licensed in Tennessee right now, I can't become a lawyer 91 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: in Florida by just waving in. I don't think or California. 92 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 2: And so if California and Florida will not allow that 93 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: to happen, then I think Tennessee will not allow you 94 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: to wave in from those states because we're being treated differently. 95 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: Reciprocity makes very much sense to me. That's one I 96 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: don't know if it could pass, but I'm gonna ask 97 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: Jim Jordan. That seems very reasonable. It's a way to 98 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: go after birthright citizenship because I doubt that China is 99 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: going to suddenly say, oh, by the way, you can 100 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: travel Americans to China and all your people become Chinese 101 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: citizens as well. Now, Buck, you don't think dual citizenship 102 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 2: should exist. I kind of agree with that in theory, 103 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 2: But this is one way to chip away at the 104 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: concept of birthright citizenship by saying you have to treat 105 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 2: Americans as we are treating you. If you're going to 106 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 2: take advantage of our country, then Americans should have the 107 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: ability to take advantage of your country too. What it creates, unfortunately, 108 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 2: because America is so much better than other countries, is 109 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: some countries might be willing to create that mutuality. 110 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure Somalia would be like, hey, if you want 111 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 1: Somemali's citizenship, will trade you. 112 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: Okay, So, but the problem is Somali, we have it 113 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 2: right now already. But what it would do is if 114 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 2: there's truly millions of people doing this from China, I 115 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 2: think it would strip away of Chinese China's ability, for instance, 116 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,559 Speaker 2: and Japan and all the European countries from being able 117 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: to take advantage of this. Okay, here's the second one. 118 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: What if when you enter the country, we insisted that 119 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: if you are pregnant, you have to spend multiple months 120 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: in this country instead of being able to travel in 121 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 2: for a week or two. Take advantage of all of 122 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 2: the American medical treatments. I don't know about you when 123 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: you went through pregnancy. First of all, it's reckless when 124 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 2: someone is eight months pregnant to put them on an 125 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 2: airplane and decide to fly them from a foreign country, 126 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: or seven months pregnant or whatever else. 127 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: At some point in time. 128 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 2: You remember this, Buck, They said, hey, it's probably better 129 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: for you not to be on an airplane for a 130 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 2: long flight if you're a pregnant woman. That is very 131 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: standard advice. If we said you cannot be in the 132 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 2: United States for a short period of time four months, 133 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: five months you have to spend in this country in 134 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: order for your child to be considered an American citizen, 135 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: I think that would also interdict drive back the chances 136 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: of people being able to come to the country. So 137 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 2: both of those seem like reasonable ways to address constitutionally 138 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: a decision that is likely to come down from the 139 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: Supreme Court that said, as hey, birthright citizenship by soil 140 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 2: is constitutional. Do those seem like somewhat reasonable rational? Again, 141 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 2: I know reasonable and rational doesn't get passed often by Congress, 142 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: But both of those seem like reasonable, rational ways to 143 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: try to dial back the incentive of people coming here 144 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 2: just to have babies so that they're American citizens. 145 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're reasonable and rational. The Democrats won't want them. 146 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: But can Republicans pass them? I'm sorry, do you think 147 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 2: Republicans could pass them in the limited amount of time 148 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: that we have. I don't have a lot of faith 149 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 2: in Republicans either, like we can say Democrats won't pass them. 150 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: Republicans can't pass anything either. And we've got the House 151 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: and the Senate by large, we can't get anything done. 152 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 1: I think that I think this filibuster thing is done. Yeah. 153 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: Not the filibuster as a basic concept, which I think 154 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: goes all the way back to the origins of the 155 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: term filibuster has to. I think it has to. The 156 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: word itself is like French, it has to do with 157 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: like pirates. I'll get back to that in a second. Basically, 158 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: it's like you're hijacking the situation is what a filibuster is. 159 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: But I think that we don't have a sixty vote 160 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 1: requirement in the constitution. Why are people pretending like we 161 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: have a sixty vote requirement in the constitution and people 162 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: are saying, oh, well, Democrats will do all these crazy things. Okay, Well, 163 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: then the American people can see the crazy things they 164 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: do and make decisions based upon it. There's still a 165 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: lot of bad laws that have been passed even with 166 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: this requirement. It just feels like this is an incumbency 167 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: protection program where nobody ever has to take a hard 168 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: vote and nobody ever has to actually live with the 169 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: consequences of getting what they want. I don't know, I've 170 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: started to become a little more radical on this. People 171 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: are sitting here, they're going, what about the Save Act. 172 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, yes, great, never gonna happen unless they 173 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: get rid of the philibuster. You'll say, oh, but what 174 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 1: about if we use parliamentary procedure in the standing filibuster 175 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: and we show the American people, Okay, nice idea, still 176 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: not going to get the Save Act. Democrats won't do it. 177 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: Republicans will even all do it, by the way, So 178 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: that's my concerned. We can't get anything passed. And this 179 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: is where I get so many of you out there 180 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: so frustrated that we've got I don't know how often 181 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: it's going to happen, buck, that we have a Republican president, 182 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: Republican Senate, Republican House, all three right now. 183 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: We have in theory a majority of Republican appointees on 184 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court, and yet it feels like they can't 185 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 2: do anything. 186 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: We need to start just living with the consequences of elections. 187 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: And that means if you win the House, you win 188 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: the Senate, and you win the presidency. You get to 189 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: do things within the you know, within the scope of 190 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: the Constitution, you get to do things. Elections have consequences. 191 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 1: We have this sort of halfway thing of like nobody 192 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: ever has to really no, America should get what it 193 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: wants and get it long and hard, Like we should 194 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: actually have a government that can take action that is 195 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: meaningful beyond some of these car routes that we have. 196 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: You know what, you know what they don't have this 197 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: issue with budgets. You know why. Everybody wants to spend, spend, spend, spend, 198 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: easiest thing in the world. Everybody in Congress, they're all 199 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: a bunch of little piggies at the treasury trough and 200 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: they don't want to stop. The spending is automatic. Everything 201 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: else is like, mah, can we name a post office? Sure, 202 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: it's it's absurd, it's absurd. This whole sixty vote filibuster thing. 203 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: I know people are like, no, it's important to send it. 204 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: Tempers the passions now it's made up, get rid of it. Actually, 205 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: just have people vote and get that again. We have 206 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: a constitution. We have an anchoring system for they can't 207 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: do anything. You know, we have laws in place, We 208 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: have statutes. But what all it means, Clay, is that 209 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: you know, you know when the last time somebody got 210 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: a super legend, you know, got the super legislative majority, 211 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: it was Obamacare, which is a disaster, a disaster. Well, 212 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: and so you're sitting here like, well, what exactly are 213 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: we uh, you know, we're holding ourselves back from doing 214 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: a good thing with the Save Act. 215 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 2: This is why President Trump has enacted so much of 216 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: his agenda through his executive authority, which remember this morning, 217 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 2: the only reason the border is secure is because President 218 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 2: Trump issued his executive authority. The reason why we bombed 219 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: Iron was there's typically more credence or space given to 220 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: presidents and foreign But I get why exactly. 221 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. He has the powers though 222 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: to do this. So the executive order is really just 223 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: a way of saying, the president chose to do the 224 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: thing that he's allowed to do, allowed to do right. 225 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: They can try carrying. 226 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: Out whether he has the ability to do it right 227 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: through separation of powers, which is the big picture question. 228 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: But again, the frust everybody's going to be angry at 229 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 2: the Supreme Court when we're when we're predicting that they 230 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 2: say birthright citizenship is the law of the land. Where 231 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 2: I'm saying is your anger should actually be with Congress 232 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: because they won't fix anything. They're basically worthless. And if 233 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: Democrats take back control of the House, they're going to 234 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 2: impeach President Trump. Nothing's going to happen. And I'm almost 235 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: to the point where I just am like, just don't 236 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: do anything. I don't know that they're making anything better 237 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: for anyone's life most years that they are on Capitol Hill. 238 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: By the way, Clay filibuster comes from the Dutch freebooter, 239 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: which is a freebooter or a pirate, and it passed 240 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: into the French with from freebooter to villibustier and fulibustero 241 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: to describe Caribbean pirates, so to filibuster is in fact, 242 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: to be a pirate among Congress. 243 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 2: I love that history. I didn't know that I will 244 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 2: say this. 245 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: He looked at me like I was insane when I 246 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: was saying by the way he was, he looked at 247 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: me like I needed a nap or something like I 248 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: was pulling a full Biden here. 249 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: Pirates of the Caribbean. I know the parlay concept. We 250 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: need to parlay. That's a great series of movies. I 251 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 2: will say, buck the other part about the filibuster. As 252 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 2: soon as Democrats have control, they're going to do away 253 00:13:56,720 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 2: with it. Talking about standing up for a principle that 254 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: the other side will not respect when they have the 255 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 2: opportunity to do away with it. 256 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: It's not even a principle. What is the principle. I 257 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: get you won the election. This is a self imposed principle. 258 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: This is like, we could win, but we don't want 259 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: to win because winning is mean, what are you talking about? 260 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: It makes no sense, It makes no People say Democrats 261 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: will do these insane things, okay, and we'll see the 262 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: insane things that they're trying to do or that they do. Well. No, 263 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: I think. 264 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: I think that if they win back control of the 265 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: of the Presidency, in the House and the Senate, I 266 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: think that they will expand the Supreme Court. I think 267 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 2: that they will decide to give statehood to places like Washington, 268 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: d C. To add senators, and I think they'll do 269 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 2: it by a bare majority. So for people out there 270 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 2: who are saying, and there are a lot of Republicans 271 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: that say that, well, we've got to stay committed to 272 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 2: not doing away with the principle, Biden tried to do 273 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: away with it. The only reason that it didn't happen 274 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 2: was because you had Joe Manchin in West Virginia and 275 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 2: because you had Kirsten Cinema in Arizona. Oh, by the way, 276 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: they're not there anymore. Who are the Democrats that are? 277 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: Maybe Fetterman. Maybe Fetterman would say, hey, this isn't a 278 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 2: good idea other than that they do they're going to 279 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 2: do away with it. 280 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you so. 281 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: The idea of not doing away with it because it's 282 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: important precedent the President's going to get tossed out the 283 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 2: way as soon as they have the power to do it. 284 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: Do you guys think after eight years of Democrats losing 285 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: their minds over Trump, they're going to be reasonable if 286 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: they remember, this is only if they win the presidency, 287 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: at the Congress, you know, the House and the Senate, right, 288 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: but if they win all three of those, you think 289 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: that they're going to be reasonable and they're going to 290 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: keep the filibuster after Trump for eight years? 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We got a bunch 358 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: of callers who went away in on the birthright citizenship case. 359 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: We will get to some of those will also continue 360 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: here coming up at the next hour to update you on. 361 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: Many of the situations surrounding Iran. In the meantime, let's 362 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: see Rock. Well, we just lost a couple of callers. 363 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what happened there. Literally, as I said, 364 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 2: I was going to go to you, let's go to 365 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: Rodney and Cincinnati. 366 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 1: Rodney, what you got? 367 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, client, Buck, how you doing great. I've got 368 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,959 Speaker 4: a thing to ask you about. Nobody's said anything about it, 369 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 4: but the last segment you had with Roberts when he 370 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 4: when he was asked about the constitutional and all that stuff, 371 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 4: and he said, well, it's the same Constitution. Yes, they're 372 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 4: always willing to change the Second Amendment for public safety, 373 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 4: but you got a national security issue with these people 374 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 4: come across the border and having a baby and making 375 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 4: them a citizen in the United States. 376 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, thank you for the call. I mean, I 377 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 2: think that's an easy argument. Look, constitutional rights are not 378 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: without restriction. I mean, to his point, you have a 379 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 2: Second Amendment right, you have a First Amendment right, but 380 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 2: those rights can be restricted in some ways within the 381 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: context of specific fact patterns. And so the argument, again, 382 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: I think the anger is going to be with the 383 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 2: Supreme Court, and I understand why that anger is going 384 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: to be with the Supreme Court. The reality is anger 385 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 2: should be with Congress. Congress knows that we have a 386 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 2: major illegal immigration issue in this country. There are two 387 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: reasons why we have a major illegal immigration problem in 388 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 2: this country. One is, you make way more money to 389 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 2: do jobs here than you do in most of the 390 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 2: other countries in the world. And so if you make 391 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: five dollars dollars a day in another country and you 392 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 2: find out you can come to the United States and 393 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 2: you can make one hundred dollars a day, you're gonna 394 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: make twenty x money. You're going to try to get here. 395 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 2: So one is just we got great capitalism, a dynamic economy, 396 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: and that is one of the draws. The other is 397 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 2: your kids become citizens. If we want to address illegal immigration, 398 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: and I'm talking about illegal immigration you have to go 399 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: to the incentives that we create for illegal immigration. And 400 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: there are two jobs. Hard to dial back. The jobs candidly, 401 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: because we have such a great economy. We're producing a 402 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 2: lot of great jobs and people most of the rest 403 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: of the world would kill to have a job in 404 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: the United States. The second one, note Buck, is hurt 405 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 2: the right citizenship, which we should and could address. 406 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: I would actually replace your first one, Clay, with our 407 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: massive welfare states. I think you have more people coming 408 00:21:55,359 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: here so that they can access the various pro programs 409 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: that exist in this country. And keep in mind, even 410 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: if a lot of the illegals were to pay taxes, 411 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: they actually would get money back from the government. They 412 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: would not be contried. 413 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 2: How good capitalism is, right that we have created this 414 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: such a huge social security safety net because of the 415 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 2: dynamic capitalistic nature. Yes, you're well, but but I'm talking 416 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 2: to all I'm talking like Milton Friedman. You cannot have 417 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 2: open borders and a massive welfare state, and that's what 418 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: we have right now. So this is a bigger you know, Clay, 419 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: I think the old immigration paradigm was people come here 420 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 2: because the jobs are Yeah, of course there's a lot 421 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 2: of that I'm not saying that's not true, but the 422 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 2: ten million legals who came here under Biden, they're they're 423 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: trying to find every way they can to. I mean, 424 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 2: this is the people getting the free hotels in New 425 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 2: York City and getting the EBT cards loaded with cash 426 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: and going to the emergency room for all of their 427 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: medical needs, which by the way, are all met. 428 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 1: You show up, they'll do whatever. You know, you need 429 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: a new prescription eyeglasses. True, and we pay for it. 430 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: We pay for all, and we pay for it. And 431 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 1: we are running dangerously deep into debt. And when you know, 432 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: when you have interest rates where they are and people 433 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 1: start to pay attention to how much we're paying on 434 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: money we've already spent just on interest on the debt, 435 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: it's crowding out on their spending. This is a real problem. Okay, 436 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: you hear about the debt very much here, just because 437 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: nobody wants to deal with it. And that's why Elon 438 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: lost his mind. 439 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 2: This also comes back to the larger issue, which is 440 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 2: all of that incentive structure exists because of Congress, and 441 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: they can't to won't, can't and won't do anything to 442 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: make those of us who are American tax payers actually 443 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: feel like we're being well represented by Congress. And that's 444 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: why I think there is a deep well of anger 445 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 2: right now. Look, people can be angry at President Trump. 446 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 2: The guy is trying to do everything in his power. 447 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 2: This is an executive order. He just threw up his 448 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: hands and said Congress won't do anything. He's the one 449 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 2: who shut down the border. He's the one who is 450 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,479 Speaker 2: saying we have to fix birthright citizenship. But the reason 451 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: he's acting this way is because he's looking at Congress. 452 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: He's a business guy and he's just like, these guys 453 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: are clowns. They won't pass anything. They can't even get 454 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: tsa paid. And this is where I think there's a 455 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 2: great deal of populist anger because many of you say, 456 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 2: wait a minute, we worked our asses off to get 457 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: a Senate majority for the Republican Party. We did everything 458 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 2: in our power to get the House to Republicans and 459 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 2: they got tax cut through. And look, to be fair, 460 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 2: there's a lot of judges that are gonna get appointed 461 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 2: that are very significant. That's behind the scenes. You don't 462 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: focus on a lot of it. The Senate is doing that. 463 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 2: But do you think people in terms of congressional action. 464 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about what President Trump can do with 465 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 2: his own executive authority. Do you think people, anyone out 466 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 2: there is anyone out there like think the Ward Congress 467 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: has done an incredible job in the first year and 468 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 2: a half of President Trump. Is there a single person 469 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 2: listening to us right now that would make that argument. 470 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,919 Speaker 1: No, But Clai, I don't you know. I take the 471 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 1: position on this stuff that we like to blame Congress 472 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: because we don't want to hold ourselves collectively to account 473 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: over electing these idiots. I mean, this is where you know, 474 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: we're the this is the this is the thing. I 475 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: have so many people, how many people right now I'm 476 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,959 Speaker 1: sorry to pick on South Carolina. How many people listening 477 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: right now are in South Carolina and are laughing when 478 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: people are talking about how Lindsay Graham can't get enough 479 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: war in Iran and once you know, wants a thousand 480 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: times more bombs than everything else, and how he's a 481 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: warmonger and all this other stuff, and yet they elected him, 482 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: and maybe they voted for him, but they still think 483 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 1: he's absurd. I sit here, so how are these people 484 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: able to keep winning elections and then getting away with 485 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: not doing the things that they said that they would 486 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: do during the you know, during the campaign season. Because 487 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: we don't have an engaged enough we don't hold people 488 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: to account. So it's I think at some level it's 489 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: on us, right. Congress is just a reflection on what 490 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: people in this country are doing with their votes, and 491 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: we put a lot of these idiots in place. And 492 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: I'm not even talking to the Democrats. I'm talking about Republicans. 493 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: Democrats a whole other thing. Mean, they just they just 494 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: want to watch what's the what does the guy say 495 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: in Batman? Some men just want to watch the hell Well, Ben, 496 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 1: you remember that. That's kind of Democrats. They just want to 497 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: watch the whole world burn the but Yeah, O for 498 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: the Butler. That's where Democrats are. They just look like America. 499 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: So what up? We burn into the ground. We'll build 500 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: something else. It'll be better, it'll be more multicultural. Thanks Democrats. 501 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: That's what they think. Republicans, though, are cowards and they're 502 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: never held to account. I mean, I'll tell you this 503 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: after the mid terms, if there you're going to see 504 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: so many Republicans all all of a sudden start getting 505 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: a little mouthy on some of this immigration stuff and 506 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: other things because they're not going to be afraid of 507 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: Daddy Trump anymore. They're not going to be afraid of 508 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,239 Speaker 1: big Daddy Trump. If that's the way this is going 509 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: to go. 510 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 2: I just I look at it, and I say, and 511 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 2: I know many of you are in this position. One 512 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,239 Speaker 2: reason I stop practicing law was because it was so 513 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 2: frustrating how long it took to get anything resolved. Any 514 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 2: of you that have ever been involved in litigation, it 515 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 2: is years. You follow a lawsuit and you think, hey, 516 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 2: this is gonna like this. Nobody ends up happier with litigation. 517 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 2: Everybody gets more embittered. It lasts for years, You're paying 518 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: ungodly amounts to lawyers who are just slowly moving a 519 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 2: procedural ball down the field, and then years later there's 520 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: finally maybe some form of resolution. I hated it because 521 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 2: I see a problem and I want to fix it. 522 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 2: And I think President Trump's these problems and he wants 523 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 2: to fix it, and that's why he's using his executive 524 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: authority to do it, because deep down he has contempt 525 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 2: for Congress's inability to get anything done. And so for 526 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: people out there, I understand you're going to be angry 527 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: at the Supreme Court when this case comes down and 528 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 2: they say, hey, the President doesn't have the authority to 529 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 2: do this. But to me, the real anger should be 530 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 2: with Congress because this is exactly what they are intended 531 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: to do, solve problems, and they don't solve problems. Worse 532 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 2: than that, Buck, I would say, Congress tends to create problems, 533 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 2: make things worse, where we would just do you know, 534 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 2: some states only allow the state legislature to show up 535 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 2: for like two months a year. There are lots of 536 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 2: states out there where they're like the legislative session is, 537 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 2: you know, just a couple of months. And it's because 538 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 2: a lot of people in states have just been like, 539 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: I don't these guys just make things worse, Like let's 540 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 2: try to limit what they can do to restrict us 541 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: in any way and let the free market actually get 542 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: things solved. We just talked about SpaceX go and public Buck. 543 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,760 Speaker 2: SpaceX is better at sending rockets to. 544 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: Space than NASA. 545 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: NASA had a seventy year head start, probably hundreds of 546 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: billions of dollars in money that had been given to 547 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 2: NASA in advance. And Elon Musk is better at sending 548 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 2: rocket ships to space than they are, and soon maybe 549 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 2: Jeff Bezos is going to be two. That's because government 550 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 2: stinks at almost everything and we need less of it. 551 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 2: But I just get more frustrated when I see problems 552 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: and it does never get addressed. 553 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know there's the lack of it getting addressed. 554 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: And then there's the Democrats. Half the country wants all 555 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: the illegals to be made citizens and be able to vote. 556 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: Half the country doesn't agree on this, roughly half the 557 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to say half, so we say no, it's 558 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,200 Speaker 1: like forty three percent or whatever. But a big chunk 559 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: of the country doesn't agree with us on this. And 560 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 1: so this is why, with Congress the way that it's 561 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: set up right now, you need a huge We have 562 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: a very divided country or roughly fifty to fifty country, 563 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: and Congress has set it up so that to solve 564 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: any problem, you need to have a supermajority that doesn't 565 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 1: really materialize. And keep in mind, even the one that 566 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: Obama had that was because of essentially the worst financial 567 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: situation since the Great Depression, and it also involved bringing 568 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: bogus federal criminal charges against up in Alaska. 569 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 5: What was this? 570 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: Now, forget the senator forget outing his name, But wasn't 571 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: it No, no, no, no no, it was a guy 572 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: before that. Some of your shouting, I'm sorry, I'll ask 573 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: a people for ten Steve Stevens. Thank you, Ted Stevens. 574 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: They took him off the playing field and not allowed 575 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: them to finish off the final wrong of Obamacare. It 576 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: was a total scam by the way he actually he 577 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: actually was should have been completely exonerated. So my point is, like, 578 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 1: and even with all that, there was so much wrangling 579 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,479 Speaker 1: over Congress and they're at that sixty votes and all 580 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: they did was make everything worse. Yeah, I agree with 581 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: all that. Here's the thing. 582 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: Democrats are playing the long game because every year there 583 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: are millions of more illegals by and large that are 584 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: either entering the country when they're in charge. We saw 585 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: ten million with Biden, or the birthright citizenship game is 586 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: still continuing, and so all these people coming in that 587 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 2: are getting American citizenship. I mean, I don't even know 588 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: the answer of this. Are you allowed to vote in 589 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 2: American presidential elections from China? Honest question? Because a lot 590 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 2: of vote now takes place electronically. I have family members 591 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: that currently are in Canada and they're able to vote 592 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: from Canada in American elections electronically. Some of you may 593 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 2: not even be aware of this. I wasn't. But if 594 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 2: you're an American citizen and you live in China, are 595 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 2: they sending absentee ballots to China? I mean, are a 596 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: million people from China eligible to vote in the United 597 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 2: States presidential election because they're American citizens if they also 598 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: are establishing in some way or arguing that they are 599 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: also domiciled in California or whatever state that they were born. 600 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: I don't know the answer. I mean, it's a super 601 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 2: interesting question that maybe we should have a solution for. 602 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 2: But again, Congress is not in the business of solving problems, 603 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,800 Speaker 2: and there's way too many people in America that are 604 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: not in the business of solving problems. They're just kind 605 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: of there to cash checks. And this is where I 606 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 2: get supremely frustrated. And I think today's case is a 607 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 2: great example of that. 608 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: All very true, all very astute. I was just out 609 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: of Talata Towers event. This is just an incredible organization. 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Find them on the free iHeartRadio 637 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 3: app or wherever you get your podcasts. 638 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: Welcome back in to Clay and Buck before we get 639 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: some of your calls. But can I just say something 640 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: to play. I had a book event yesterday for Manufacturing 641 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: Delusion up in Palm Beach. It's a lot of fun 642 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: and we had like c Span there. Please go get 643 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: a coffee while you can of Manufacturing Delusion if you 644 00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: go to Crocket Coffee. By the way, we have a 645 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: special on signed books that's gonna be happening at Crocketcoffee 646 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: dot com. Signed books, very exciting stuff. But Clay Blazers, jackets, 647 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: suit jackets. I'm just gonna call this out because you know, 648 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: I've been running a one man jihad against ties for 649 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: a long time now. I'm just like, I don't like ties. 650 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: They're dumb, they make no sense. Some a French king 651 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: hired a bunch of Croatian mercenaries four hundred years ago, 652 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: and so I have to wear this stupid thing forever 653 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,479 Speaker 1: now because of fashion. Sorry, not into it. I'm gonna 654 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: tell you something I want to know if you agree 655 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: with me on this. This a little controversial. This could 656 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,520 Speaker 1: get us in trouble. I don't think there is such 657 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: a thing as a lightweightsuit jacket that you could actually 658 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: wear comfortably when it's hot outside. It's just not a 659 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: thing you're going to sweat. And then you're that guy 660 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,400 Speaker 1: with the sweaty pits and the sweat in the middle 661 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: of the dress shirt. People look, Oh, it's summerweight wool. 662 00:34:56,280 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: Summerweight wool. I mean, ari, this is like lightweight. Are 663 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: you kidding me? No such thing absurd. I think that 664 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: we need to just call this out for what it is, 665 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: because gentlemen, we're being forced to be sweaty messages at 666 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: all these formal events. I went, no jacket people, aren't 667 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 1: you wearing a jacket at your book event? Because I 668 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: don't want to look like a sweaty piggy piggy up there. 669 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 2: I actually thought you looked sweaty in the photo that 670 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 2: you posted with Carrie. 671 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: You know you're you're you're a shirt, You're a shark. 672 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: You looked a little flushed. 673 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: She looked comfortable in her dress, like she's a Floridian. 674 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 2: She was used to the heat. It's not even August yet. 675 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 2: Now it's like, oh, bock's just sweating bullets out there. 676 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: Uh my, my Scots Irish people are melting down here 677 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,919 Speaker 1: in South Florida. That's all I could tell you. 678 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 2: I think you need to just go Seersucker would be 679 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 2: what some of the people out there would say. In 680 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 2: the old school, in the old school southern community. I 681 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 2: think you know, back in the day, they used to 682 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: have to argue all these cases, and in Southern courtrooms 683 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 2: without any without any movie air at all, they see 684 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 2: people or yeah, it's crazy. 685 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: It's Robert and Corpus Christy, Texas is an attorney. Want 686 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: to get you in, Robert, go ahead. 687 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 5: He sounds good. Play the wills of justice grind slowly, 688 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 5: for sure, am I wanted to give you guys play. 689 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 5: He said, you've given up the practice of law. But 690 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 5: I tell you what, you would have done a better 691 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 5: job than sour with that voice of is. It's like 692 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 5: scratching a chalkboard. It's worse than RFK junior. 693 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, look, thank you. You're a lawyer. 694 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 2: I mean, how many people do you think could have 695 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 2: done a better job advocating for President Trump? Just from 696 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaker 2: an oral advocacy perspective, most every lawyer. 697 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 5: I know that, I've been practicing for thirty five years, 698 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 5: and you do a lot of frial work, not that much. 699 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 5: If I let's have done a bit, but my voice, 700 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 5: if you give sour my voice, I think he would 701 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 5: have carried the day. But