1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has ball control issues. Welcome 2 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,039 Speaker 1: back to another edition to the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jansas and I am joined by 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: Greg Rosatal. What's up? Boys? Go a lot of different 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: directions with that money at Trump, Yes you could or none? 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: Give me a chuckle. This is our Tuesday show. But 8 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: this is a little different this show this week because 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 1: you know, some people, if you're like a casual football fan, 10 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: a lot of people plug in right now starting with 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: these Thanksgiving games. Uh where, But well this is maybe 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: the pret fantasy world, so this might not even be relevant, 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: but just in general, the football season really turns toward 14 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: its climax and uh in the regular season since now, 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: starting with these Thanksgiving games. So we're gonna get to 16 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: all three of them. Um, all NFC games. How about 17 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: that decent slate this year? There's been some better somewhere. Yeah, 18 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: there's like the middle game, plenty of storylines to get to. 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: So we're gonna break down all three of those games. 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: A little later in the show, we are going to 21 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: go through the news or some big juicy news going 22 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: on around unfortunately Mark Sessler's favorite team, the Beleaguer and 23 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler dealing with more quarterback wods, which we'll get 24 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: to when we talk about the news, and we also 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: will get into the Monday night game played uh up 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: in Foxboro. Um, by the way, when Greg Win, I 27 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: don't know, you were in New York for a long 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: time and then you moved to l A. So I 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: don't know if you're that familiar with that region of 30 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,839 Speaker 1: the country. I grew up in western Massa. Well, the 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,919 Speaker 1: more recent incarnation of it where um Mike Tarico said 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: on the telecast that that Robert Kraft turn Gillette Stadium 33 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: and the mall surrounding the stadium to a real destination 34 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: for people between Providence in Boston pat Patriot Place. Is 35 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: that true? I think it's true ten times a year 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: when the Patriots are playing a home game. Okay, that's 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: about it, um. So yes, And at the end of 38 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: the show, hopefully we'll have time. I will get into 39 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: the some more iTunes reviews which everyone likes that they have. 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: They have like like ty laws bar something there. I mean, 41 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what, I don't know. Well, there's that 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a huge destiny people are people 43 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: are generally avoiding Fox bro if why would you go there? 44 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: Like on April four, It's like on the way theoretically 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: to the water if you were coming you know from 46 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 1: defending what direction you're coming from, so you could be 47 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: passing by and maybe you'd stop. There is in that 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: region also a music amphitheater. I remember seeing r. E. 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: M And Pete Yourn play in two thousand three. Pete 50 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: You're in Life on a String. Good song change but 51 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 1: that is a great song. That one. Yeah, but I 52 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: had a stomach issues the entire show and spent most 53 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 1: of it in a stall, like one of the two 54 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: times I've been to a concert with dance stomach issues also, 55 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: So this is with you, why do you go see 56 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: music vehicles when you're not feeling well? I just love 57 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: music so much that this will all be part of 58 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: our Stummach Stomach Discomfort podcast. Really that should that should 59 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: be a banger um that we'll talk about in the 60 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: off season. So that's all coming up today. Pretty good show. 61 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Let's start with Monday night football 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: just not the same as the primetime music Shadowy leak 63 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: figured made primetime music, go Away. I kind of like 64 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: this song though it alright fun whatever. The Patriots remain perfect. 65 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: Guess what they actually that's the music we should be using. 66 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: Can we get Let's go some throne of sleeves or ease, 67 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: let's do this right. The Patriots remain perfect, but far 68 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: from perfection. Over the Bills at a Lette Stadium, they 69 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: showed their vulnerable side for a second straight week, but 70 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: managed to edge their opponent in the final minutes. Tom 71 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: Brady through one touchdown uh and an interception for the 72 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: third straight week, but Tyrod Taylor was injured and ineffective 73 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 1: for much of the game, and the Patriots made the 74 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: plays they had to in a game that was mad 75 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: by horrific officiating. Mark Sessil will start with you. The 76 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: Patriots are yes, tenant, oh but you know, some cracks 77 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: in the veneer potentially as the injuries mount, and there 78 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: are some reasons to doubt them just cruising through the 79 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: rest of the regular season. I don't doubt them, Okay, 80 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, because yes, I think it's a 81 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: very fair point to say that the offense looks markedly 82 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: different without Dion Lewis and without Julian Edelman in the lineup. 83 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: But the history tells us that they're gonna spend this 84 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: week figuring out game by game how to attack, destroy opponents, 85 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: get into the playoffs and get to the super Bowl. 86 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: And Edelman will be back at some point too. It's 87 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: like they're not good. This ship is not sinking on 88 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: any level. And that game last night was about and 89 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: Controar did a great right up on the on the 90 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: what we learned, good point by him that it's about 91 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: as close as Rex Ryan might get to beating the 92 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: Patriots in the best situation for him in a long time. Well, 93 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: that's you're not gonna face a Patriots team in in 94 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: this situation again, That's well, I don't buy that short 95 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: because with a bad Jets team last year, they lost 96 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: by a combined total three points in two games. He 97 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: always usually, i should say, plays the Patriots tough and 98 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: he knows how to scheme up against Tom Brady. I 99 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: don't buy that, because, first of all, this is one of, 100 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: if not the best Patriots teams of the Belichick era. 101 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: It's a very good team. Not with the current players 102 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: on the it's not that team right now. But the 103 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: Bills to me. They they've lost Kyle Williams for the year. 104 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: At the end of that game, they don't have Mario 105 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: Williams or marcel Darius Tyrod Taylor is walking around there 106 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: with the shoulder. They had a lot of calls go 107 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: against them, and a lot of calls were made poorly 108 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: for both sides. I guess what I mean is to me, 109 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: that looked like two fairly even teams where the smarter 110 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: team that knows how to win games did find a 111 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: way to do it. And that's what happens a lot 112 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: with these Rex Ryan Patriot But I don't think it's 113 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: some great scenario where next year, so there's no chance. 114 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: This Bills team has a lot of young talent and 115 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: this is Tom Brady getting older and older. So the 116 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: Patriots with a shuffling offensive line and Chris Harper as 117 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: their number two wide receiver are equivalent to the Bills. No, 118 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: I think you watch that those two teams last night, 119 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 1: total yards are about the same. It was very flukey. 120 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: The Patriots were head after the first half. I think 121 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: they were at The Patriots from the first seven or 122 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: eight weeks are gone. That team is gone. It's kind 123 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: of like two thousand and seven. Around Week thirteen, they 124 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: had a tough primetime game against Baltimore. The rest of 125 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: the year, they were a very good team, but they 126 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: weren't an historic team. And I think that's what this 127 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: team is. They're going to figure it out as they go. 128 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: But even in their lesser years, what they do is 129 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: they change week to week and they adjust better than 130 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: any team. And that's something that Buffalo can't do and 131 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: the Jets can't do when the rest daf C can't 132 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: do to that extent. Buffalo should have picked off New 133 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: England in this game, but that's the point. They can't 134 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: pull it. But I'm not saying that's nothing that New 135 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: England necessarily did points. It was an issue of Buffalo 136 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: not able to take care of take um, you know, 137 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: advantage of opportunities. Tyrod Taylor missed several big throws in 138 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: this game. They had turnovers. Uh, they just you know, 139 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: this was a Bills team that you know, penalties killing them, 140 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: the same old stuff of the Bills. The Bills are 141 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: not going to be the team that is gonna knock 142 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: off the Patriots, but a better disciplined team, uh, that 143 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: takes advantage and maybe as a better quarterback. I think. 144 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: I think the Patriots are gonna lose games before the 145 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: regular season. There are a lot of teams who could 146 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: knock off the Patriots right now. But they're fortunate enough. 147 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: They were so good so early that they have a 148 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: five game lead. They can wrap up the division in 149 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: week twelve, so they have they have a month to experiment, 150 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: which they usually do in September. They can use December 151 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: to experiment. Then Edelman comes back for the playoffs. Who 152 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: knows how long Amndola is out, but you have to 153 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: have Amandola and Edelman if you're going to compete. Maybe 154 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: that's one thing we overlooked a little bit because Amandola 155 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: when Edelman went down, they said, oh, now it's Amundla's 156 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: turned to slide in and take on that role. And 157 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: we know he has the ability, but that guy's always hurt. 158 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: Then we saw it right away. So it gets targeted 159 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: what twelve times in this game. And by the way, 160 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: Edelman's heard a lot too. Well fair, but my point 161 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: is if Edel, if h M and Dole can't stay 162 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: healthy and Edelman's out to the playoffs, then you really 163 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: do start to get into a bad situation and look 164 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: what happened with Gronk one catch for ten yards Because Rex, 165 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: I think, put out a little blueprint if you can 166 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: match what Rex did. Now he has better personnel and 167 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: scheming abilities than a lot of coaches and the teams, 168 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: but you know there is a blueprint out there to 169 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: slow down this offense. Well, the difference was they could 170 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: double team Gronk and they weren't worried about the other 171 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: guys beat him, and they confused Tom Brady. You wrote 172 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: a post today, Dan, how frustrated Brady was throughout the game. 173 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: He did not know where the blitzes were coming. He 174 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: was faked out by blitzes that didn't come. He was 175 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: looking a little bit like two thousand twelve, two thousand 176 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: thirteen when he'd get a you know, I'm not gonna 177 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: say where the past rush was clearly bothering h even 178 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: sometimes when it wasn't quite get in here, getting there. 179 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,599 Speaker 1: They were in Brady's head. And I disagree that the 180 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: Patriots didn't necessarily do anything because when it came down 181 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: to it, they're so what they are good at a 182 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: situational football, and the way they finished that first half, 183 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: not many teams are gonna do that and the way 184 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: that they scored the other touchdown where they do the 185 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: hurry up and that you know, they make the big 186 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: play down the field, they suddenly call a hurry up 187 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: and the and the Bills have no play before the exactly. 188 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: I mean, he beat the blitz who hits him? You 189 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: know it hits him. Not many quarterbacks are gonna make 190 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: that play and then they rush up to the line 191 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,599 Speaker 1: and they get a touchdown. Those are their two touchdowns. 192 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: And that was not many teams are gonna score before 193 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: the half and then getting it right back to start 194 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: the third quarter as their trademark. And let mean, let's 195 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: not bury the lead with what happened with the Amundola 196 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: passed that the whistle was blown inadvertently early, had that 197 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: been had that been completed, and he probably goes for 198 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 1: a touchdown there. I know some Bills fans say, no, 199 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: he wouldn't know. Well, I mean, he's gonna go, He's 200 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: gonna take a almore stopped running in coverage. He could 201 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: have tackled him right at the catch point if he 202 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: if to whistle him and blown all right, But let's 203 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: just say for instance, that drive does install what four 204 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: plays later, then this game is a completely different game too. 205 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: And I get the point that the New England Patriots 206 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: aren't as strong as they were four or five weeks ago. 207 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: But listen, they're about to win their seventh straight an 208 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: f C East title, and I'm not gonna sit around 209 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: diagramming scenarios where they're not as good as a team 210 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: as we thought. They're gonna go fourteen and two. They're 211 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,199 Speaker 1: gonna roll into the playoffs. They're gonna win fourteen to 212 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: sixteen games. But there is something to be said that 213 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: they've looked mortal of later Marcus Cannons. Marcus, They occasionally 214 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: trying to think of another player that that that they 215 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: have given more chances to that that has played worse 216 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,719 Speaker 1: than I mean, they have a Marcus Cannon problem. They 217 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: just gotta give up on. I don't agree that they're 218 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: definitely going It wouldn't surprise me at all if they 219 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: have a three game losing streak. Wow, they're not the 220 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: same team. Hey, And you know, defensively though, they're really good. Defensively, 221 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 1: they're really good. They don't know how long Am and 222 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: Dola's out. We don't know how long Dobson's out. You 223 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: can have Chris Harper and Matthew Slater is your second 224 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: and third receivers. I think there's some optimism a Mendolas 225 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: wasn't serious and we'll we'll see about Dobson whether he 226 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: was that big a factor anyways, Jamie Collins, they hope 227 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: to get back. This is the best defense they've had 228 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: in more than ten years, so I think that's a 229 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: big factor. It helps him next week. For instance, they're 230 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: not gonna score many points in Denver, but they have 231 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: a defense that's probably gonna keep it a nice, low 232 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: scoring game. And they're just gonna play different sort of games. 233 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: And Sammy Watkins was the latest to go on Butler Island. 234 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: Malcolm X marks the Spot got a text from a 235 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: Patriots fan who was a local bartender and Marina del 236 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 1: Rey asking me, if Malcolm Butler is now a lockdown corner, 237 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: he's a great one. If I had to get a 238 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: Patriot's jersey, it's no doubt. One thing that would help 239 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots get to sixteen and oh and another super 240 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: Bowl would be if they had a better head coach, 241 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: of course, because well this is if you ask Ray Lewis, 242 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: who had this to say when comparing Rex Ryan to 243 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and his latest genius rant on Monday Night Football. 244 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: It speaks volumes about the Ryans on what his family 245 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: staying score right, and when you see that culture, I'm 246 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: not playing and I'm not choosing nobody else Rix Ryan. 247 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: If you're asking me the Rix Ryan, I'm I'm taking 248 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: Rix Ryan whole day. That guy makes like three million 249 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: dollars with a pedigree. Have you ever heard of Steve Belichick? 250 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: You want to talk about culture? What was the culture 251 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: towards the end with Rex Ryan and the Jets was 252 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: an absolute disaster. Not to mention it was not his fault. 253 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the head coach. He's talking about the pedigree. 254 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: You don't you know the only reason why the Ryan 255 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: family has any Super Bowl rings because Rob was an 256 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: assistant to Bill Belichick. But don't forget buddies rings and 257 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: then don't forget you know, I was talking about the sun. 258 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: I agree Rob Ryan doesn't even have a job anymore. 259 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you agree that Rex and Bill Belichick are from 260 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: nineteen nine through now pretty much recognized it to that's 261 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: defensive schemers in the NFL. But I think Ray Windows 262 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 1: letting us in a window into his soul. He would 263 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: preferred to be hyped up and fly around the field 264 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: on a great defense with no offense than to have 265 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: six rings like Belichick. And I'm I'm tired of Rex 266 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: Ryan clearly being happier in a game that they lose, 267 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: but the defense play as well. It's so obvious watching 268 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: afterwards how proud he was that the defense played much 269 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: much better than Week two, And I was like, you 270 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: lost the game by the exact same amount of points. 271 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 1: You gotta get over that. Yeah, No, I totally agree. 272 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: That's a fair complain about Rex Ryan. Every single year. 273 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: It's almost as if he deserves to be or should be, 274 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: a really great defensive coordinator. That's it. I think this 275 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: team is going about it. I really think this team 276 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: is gonna go to the playoffs about really great defensive 277 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: coordinator under Bill Belichick. Stop it too much ego for that. 278 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: All right, That's what happened on Monday night. Hey, uh, 279 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,239 Speaker 1: laid behind the glass? Who almost it? Possibly? How you doing, Sydney? 280 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing all right? You went to Disneyland again this weekend? 281 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: By the way, I did. Isn't that great? City? Is 282 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: the real deal? Biggest Disney fan in the world, um. 283 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure they are bigger out there. I'm sure. 284 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if 285 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: I want that title. Actually there, they gotta start giving 286 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: you something, some perks for being such an ambassador. I 287 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: certainly wouldn't say no. Yeah, let's do some news. Sure 288 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: I mixed a cupcake and a brownie. I'm calling it 289 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: a crowne. Maybe Tony Romo should enter next year. All right, 290 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: let's let's now get into this and we'll start with 291 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. And you know, I think we have 292 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: is it? Lauded or louded? Lauded? Lauded the Cleveland Browns 293 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: for their decision to go with Johnny manziell Um as 294 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: a starter for the rest of the regular season, a 295 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: decision that made sense given his draft pedigree, in their 296 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: their need to make a decision going next year, and 297 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: also that they're not going anywhere this year. But now 298 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: Manziela is complicated in a video came out uh it 299 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: was posted online on Monday, showing him in a in 300 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: a DJ booth in an Austin, Texas bar, holding a 301 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: bottle of dom um. You know, rapping or you know 302 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 1: listen or singing along to a future song. He's a 303 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: big fan of the Future Drake collaboration. That seems to 304 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: be a major driving force in his life right now. Uh. 305 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: And that pops up on social media and then you know, 306 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: we didn't know exactly when it came from, but apparently 307 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: this stuff, this was recent this weekend, because here comes 308 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,480 Speaker 1: coach Mike Petton on Tuesday saying the team is very 309 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: disappointed uh in Manzell's actions over the bye week, and 310 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: now they are considering Mark benching Johnny Manziel and going 311 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: back to Josh McCown. It's not official yet, but he 312 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: seemed to lay it out there, petting that that's what 313 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: could be coming because they cannot trust Johnny Manziel. Well, 314 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: I think they will bencham. And I understand that there's 315 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: probably a pocket of football fans that say, who cares 316 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: like go let him play football. This is what quarterbacks 317 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: have been doing off the field for a long time, 318 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: and that's fine. But in the context of someone that 319 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: in the off season checked themselves into rehab and talked 320 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: over and over verbally about changing the course of their life, 321 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 1: that it's dispared. It's distressing for people to see this 322 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: stuff bubbling up, and it's been the third, second or 323 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: third incident this season. And he said before the bye, 324 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: I won't do anything to embarrass this team. And Mike 325 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: Petton said it best to who much has given, much 326 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: is expected, and it's what he's out of the building 327 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: for seventy two hours, and this flares up. And the 328 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: whole reason they went and got Josh McCown, which is 329 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: not a great quarterback necessarily and answer to their problems 330 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: was that Petton, after what happened last season, when Hoyer 331 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: and Manzilla aren't even talking to each other at the 332 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 1: end of year, wanted a quarterback he could trust on 333 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: a team that was hanging on by a thread, and 334 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: a talented and exciting his Manzel might be. And the 335 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,119 Speaker 1: reason Money and Football had any aura of hope to 336 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: be exciting and interesting at all was because of Manzel. 337 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: The game is an absolute wash. Otherwise they're gonna bench 338 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: them because they can't trust him, and you have to 339 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: send them a message to the rest of your locker room. 340 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with it, Frankly, Yeah, I think in 341 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 1: the context of NFL history, like you mentioned, Joe Namath 342 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,679 Speaker 1: and Don Meredith would be laughing at this story that 343 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: it's so such a big story, but it's not the 344 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 1: same game. It's eleven billion dollar business and this is 345 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: a player, like you said, who went to rehab, had 346 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: an issue with a girlfriend on the side of the road, 347 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: obviously doesn't handle the club life very well in addition 348 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: to keeping his quarterback responsibilities. So I understand why he's 349 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 1: under the microscope and why uh Patton might might frown 350 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: on this behavior. Well, it's a complicated issue. It's not 351 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: about the video. It's about what we don't know. It's 352 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 1: about whatever agreement Johnny Manziel had with the team that 353 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: were the terms of him when he came out of rehab, 354 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: when he got the starting job, whatever the expectation was. 355 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: Because it's considering the issues that he's had and he 356 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: was very public about that. He doesn't think he took 357 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: his job serious enough as a rookie, whatever agreement that 358 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: they had between them that he what he couldn't couldn't do, 359 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I mean, rehab is a serious thing. 360 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 1: He was in ten weeks. Who knows what the agreement 361 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: was there. I thought it was interesting, A reporter said 362 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,639 Speaker 1: asked Petton if if he suggested whether the team is 363 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: going to suggest Manzel go goes back to rehab. He 364 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: didn't answer that question, so I think that Brown's kind 365 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: of know what they're gonna do here. I don't think 366 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a positive thing for Johnny Manzel, and 367 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:36,600 Speaker 1: I think they're just getting their ducks in a row. 368 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: I think it's either an issue of addiction where he 369 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: literally can't help himself well, or a lack of common sense, 370 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: because the common sense comes in with and someone's coming 371 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: at me on Twitter after I initially responded or made 372 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: a tweet about the news that came out that oh 373 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: nobody says this about Gronk and it's not the same 374 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: thing or their two separate cases. And I think with Manzel, 375 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: all he has to have the common sense to say, 376 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: all right, this is the next six weeks or the 377 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: most important six weeks in my career. So I need 378 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: to be a low key even on my bye week. 379 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: Maybe I go out and have some drinks with my buddies, 380 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 1: but I can't go into DJ booth and be rapping 381 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: to future on camera holding a bottle of DOMP. There's 382 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: some real breakdown and just just basic brain power, or 383 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: is an addiction issue would no matter actions speak louder 384 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: than words, and no matter what he told Patton, what 385 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: what he did was say I don't want to change 386 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 1: my lifestyle. He doesn't want to change his lifestyle, and 387 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: and that might be unfair. It might be totally unfair 388 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: what the Browns want him to do in terms of 389 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 1: changing his lifestyle. But news flash, we've all been told 390 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: unfair things from our bosses, and when it comes from 391 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: the very highest bosses, which I think this issue would 392 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: would involve in terms of the general manager, coach and 393 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: the owner. If they're telling you not to do something 394 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: just to kind of stay low, then you just have 395 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: to listen to it, even if it's not fair. And 396 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: the other thing is that when he was drafted, Patton 397 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: in the entire organ zation gave him a long rope 398 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: to go in that offseason and go do a bunch 399 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: of stuff where I think all of us looked at 400 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: and said, it's not a big deal. I think it 401 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: might even liked it at first, because it was like 402 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: he was all over social media. He was this new 403 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: playboy and maybe the new name of But it didn't 404 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: work out that one now and it's he's just been 405 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: a consistent headache and then when he goes and takes 406 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: what appeared to be a mature step to correct and 407 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: it's from a professional angle. You want to become an 408 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,719 Speaker 1: NFL quarterback, all they say over and over is you've 409 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: got to make it seven thing. And the way he 410 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: described as bye week, where he's like, I, you know, 411 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: it was time for me to go take a little 412 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: time for myself and unplug. I don't even think you 413 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: want to hear that from someone that's taking on a 414 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: huge role for the rest of the year and now 415 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: no role. If you don't believe that being an NFL 416 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: quarterback seven job, read Peter King's excellent article with Carson Palmer, 417 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: which just shows you how engrossing and how much the 418 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: mind matters and attitude matters for NFL quarterbacks. Uh, let's 419 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: move on now. We'll talk about the Denver Broncos quarterback situation. 420 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: Brock Oswidler, who played well on Sunday and win over 421 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,200 Speaker 1: the Bears. We'll get another start against the Patriots next week. Um, 422 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning is not ready to return from his injury. Uh, 423 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: he's got the foot issue. He went to see a 424 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: specialist this week actually to a second opinion on the 425 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: Planter those uh so Oswiler gets another start. Um, there 426 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: is a lot to this though, Um, Greg, a lot 427 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: cooking behind the scenes, and you have some saucy theory. 428 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: I love to hear that podcast. I don't know if 429 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: I have a theory, but I think the reporting from 430 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: Pro Football Talk has really piqued my interest. And there's 431 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: been two things that they sent out there. One that 432 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning is planning to play next year without the Broncos, 433 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, with or without the Broncos. And then two 434 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: that him getting a second opinion means basically he's not 435 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: happy with whatever the Broncos medical opinion is and all 436 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,679 Speaker 1: that implies. So there's, of course there's something going on 437 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: behind the scenes here. It's hard to really guess what 438 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: it is, but it's not hard to guess who's putting 439 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: that information out that Peyton Manning is gonna play next year. 440 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: It's someone with a financial steak in keeping Peyton Manning's 441 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: career going. Now Manning, you know, there was also a 442 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: source report that Manning is furious that this is out there. 443 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 1: That's just sort of how I think the game is 444 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: all played. I think the Broncos are handling a very sensitive, 445 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: tricky situation in the best way they can't trying to 446 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: be as sensitive they are to Manning's legacy at the 447 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: same time when they want to see Brocos while they're play. 448 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: It's clear. Michael Silver reported it. He said it was 449 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: a benching really for performance reasons, and of course you 450 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: want to get Manning healthy too, but it's about the performance. 451 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: If if somebody in Manning's camp is leaking this to 452 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: p f T, it's not coming from Manning himself because 453 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: that's not even credible. He he doesn't know until after 454 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: the two thousand and fifteen season if he wants to play. 455 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:52,719 Speaker 1: Until he puts his body through a test. He has 456 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: no clue if he wants to play again next year. Yeah, 457 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 1: he has the neck injury that they every season, even 458 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: after his VP season, they had that where they had him, 459 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, have his neck scan, so you didn't know. 460 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: So that's all that stuff is still ahead. These things 461 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: never they just never end pretty with That's true with quarterbacks, 462 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 1: especially ones that have been told for two plus decades 463 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: that you're the greatest person that walked terra firma. With 464 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,080 Speaker 1: the exception of Peyton Manning's boss. It doesn't end pretty well. 465 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: That's fair. I mean, it's very rare that he came 466 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: into this season probably unhappy with the organization after taking 467 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: a pay cut and being somewhat you know, disrespected in 468 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: the media that way, and now here it comes again. 469 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 1: He's gonna play again. You want to watch Peyton Manning 470 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: next season, not me. What happens in ten days when 471 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: Manning pronounces himself healthy or leaks that he's healthy, and 472 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: brock Oslar is coming off a three touchdown performance that 473 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: will win over the Broncos over the Patriots. There there's 474 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: a lot of variables, Oswiler's play being really high among them, 475 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: because he might struggle and they might, you know, want 476 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 1: to go back to me. They might say, okay, let's 477 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: go back to Manning in in three weeks comments after 478 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: the game we're pretty telling though. They got to run 479 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: his offense finally, and he said, look, the threat of 480 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 1: the Buddha action made our running game work. And and 481 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: I swaller stayed out of the way. He did about 482 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: I like, you know, I try to chart these he 483 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: I wanted two of my columns and the charting his 484 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: good passes. And then like you know, bad decision. He 485 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: almost had nothing of either, which means he was just 486 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: had like an Alex Smith, stay out of the way, 487 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: manage the game. And I think that's what Kubiak. Didn't 488 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: have them throw deep or isn't that what they've needed 489 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: all year with that defense, And that's a great thing 490 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: for a first start in your career. You're not gonna 491 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: be asking him to do crazy things. Moving on. So, 492 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 1: case Keenum, Uh, the St. Louis Rams quarterback, suffered what 493 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: looked like a pretty apparent head injury late in the game. 494 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: He stayed in for two more plays, ended up losing, 495 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 1: having a game deciding fumble. UH. So a lot of controversy. 496 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: Why was case Keen him in the game? What was 497 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: the breakdown on the sideline? With all the different measures 498 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,440 Speaker 1: they have now to try to protect quarterbacks and uh 499 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: other position players from concussion issues. Uh. Jeff Fisher spoke 500 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: on it UH on Monday during his press conference, referencing 501 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: Rams had training Reggie Scott. Reggie went out there to 502 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: check on our quarterback and then Case said he felt 503 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: that he was okay, and Reggie was told to leave 504 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: the field. That's what's happened. That's what happened. We have 505 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: some things to work out, and we're communicating with the league, 506 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: the players and sociation Association and everyone else so that 507 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: we ensure that this doesn't happen again. You can, you cannot, 508 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: under these circumstances place blame on anybody. And then Fisher 509 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:36,119 Speaker 1: on Tuesday, Um responded to UM, you know some criticism 510 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 1: saying from the Ravens saying the Ravens need to look 511 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: in the mirror. I guess saying that no one is 512 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: innocent and the Ravens certainly aren't. Your thoughts, guys, Well, 513 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: let's let's listen to Fisher for a second. How how 514 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: he initially explained explained it with the c is that 515 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: his responsibility is to is to call down and notified 516 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: appreciated anything. Well, because he saw trainer on the field, 517 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 1: he didn't feel it was necessarily make the call. And 518 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: then for whatever reason we went on with the two plays, 519 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 1: was it was just done in his bed Monday morning 520 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: at for whatever reason. The for whatever reason is what 521 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: really struck me. For whatever reason, then he stayed on 522 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: the field like you are the coach. He talked to 523 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: the trainer. Jeff Fisher had this long press conference where 524 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: I totally expected him to have a miacopa and just say, look, 525 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: this was a failure. You know, we made mistakes. But 526 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: instead he tried to complicate it by saying, well, the 527 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: trainer talked to him. But then you know the eight 528 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: He tried to just confuse the situation by talking about, well, 529 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: it's partly the A C. T. S fault and it's 530 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: partly the confluence of events. And meanwhile, everyone that's watching 531 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: on TV knew exactly what happened. I don't know you 532 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: said it well, I mean I this feels like one 533 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 1: of those tedious stories that could bubble up and keep 534 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: going on for like five more weeks. And I hope 535 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: that's not the thing. The thing that really got me, 536 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: um was when he basically said, like, don't don't look 537 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: at me. Don't look at me. No, we're not. You cannot, 538 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: under these circumstances place blame on anybody. You can't blame 539 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 1: anyone's it just it just keeps happening over and over. 540 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: How dare you even consider blaming anyone for this situation? 541 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: The only counterpoint I'd make is it's one thing. Last night, 542 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, Tyrod Taylor's grasping in his shoulder, and they 543 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: want to keep him in because e J. Manuel's your 544 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: other option in the game's over. Who is struggling and 545 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: fighting to keep case Keenan in the game. I mean, 546 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: you could have thrown with Chris Wesley out there, You 547 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: could have put a nice screen passed together better than 548 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: Case keen I could. He literally talked to the trainer, 549 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: I mean the trainer, and he was like, well, he 550 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: told the trainer he was fine. That That's the whole 551 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: reason why this is in place. I don't know. Just 552 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: drives me crazy, And this sort of example is the 553 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: reason why Jeff Fisher has buddies in the media so 554 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: that no one will kill him at my moments like this. 555 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: This is about as lower moment as he's had in 556 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: his career, not just because of this play, but because 557 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: of this loss in the decision to start keen him. 558 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: I mean, he should be on the hottest of hot teams. 559 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: The bloggers will kill him because nothing gets a blogger 560 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: rolled up like a concussion. Uh. Finally, Colin. A lot 561 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks in the news today. Colin Kaepernick had what 562 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 1: was deemed it always is. It would be bad news 563 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: if it was deemed his unsuccessful shoulder surgery, but it 564 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: was his success. It was a pretty serious surgery to 565 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: repair the labor room and his non throwing shoulder. Um, 566 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbett will be the guy the rest of the 567 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: way for the Niners who seemed to be hurtling towards. 568 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: When you talk about the battle for the number one pick, 569 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: the Niners is gonna put up a good battle. I think, um, 570 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: we're lack thereof anyway. Colin Kaepernick out of the picture. 571 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: Has he thrown his last past four the forty Niners West? Yes, 572 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: I think I don't think that's even controversial. I think 573 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: that's what's going on here. And I watched Blaine Gibbert 574 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: again better than Colin Kaepernick the year. What do you 575 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: guys think the market would will be for Colin Kaepernick 576 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: if he's a free agent? Does Chip Kelly get involved? Well, 577 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: the whole league can get involved if he's a free agent. 578 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: If they released him, I think theoretically they would try 579 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: to trade him first. See what happened the market for 580 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 1: him as a starter. Yeah, it's it would be a 581 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: good interesting look at outside of the Eagles. Dumb teams 582 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: like you don't have a quarterback so you're gonna go 583 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: pin your hopes on Colin Kaepernick, and it's me six 584 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: six months of how Colin Kaepernick's improved A, B and C. 585 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: Then the team goes for and twice whatever. I mean, 586 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: that's definitely um a smart way to look at it. 587 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: There's a lot of evidence that maybe Kaepernick was a 588 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:40,479 Speaker 1: flash in the pan. But at the same time, if 589 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: you're a team that has no quarterback or is, you know, 590 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: looking to have some type of staff stop gap as 591 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: a starter, I don't think you're necessarily dumb for thinking 592 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: you can uh pick up Kaepernick at a team friendly 593 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: rate and maybe put him with a coaching staff that 594 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: you think can make some tweaks. Obviously, this Niner staff hasn't, 595 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: and he regressed under the pre best regime. I don't 596 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: think I think Kaepernick is worth a gamble for a 597 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: team that's looking for a holdover guy. I don't think 598 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: an offensive head coach is going to take Colin Kaepernick. 599 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: I think it'll be a defensive coach like a Rex Ryan. 600 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it will be Rex Ryan because I 601 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: don't think the Greg Roman Kaepernick relationship ended very well. 602 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: But Rex Ryan likes running quarterbacks who can give the 603 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: defense a threat and make the defensive coordinator a little uncomfortable. 604 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of defensive coordinators think like that, 605 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: but offensive coordinators don't think like, Oh, I can't wait 606 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: to get my hands on Colin Kaepernick, who has no touch, 607 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: very little accuracy, and very little field vision. I think 608 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: you'll have a good market for teams. They're not gonna say, hey, 609 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: you're just the franchise quarterback. He's gonna have to compete 610 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: for a job, maybe with a younger player who knows 611 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be that crazy. Give us a backup. Chan 612 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: Gailey put him in New York with Robert Griffin three 613 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: for interest. No, I think Jan Gailey's the best. I 614 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: think that's the best chance. Sorry, Dan, your next quarterback 615 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: is gonna be capt Do you know, though, like a 616 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: young guy still relatively young, with upside and they I 617 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: would you know, I mean, at least there's like, you 618 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: know what Ryan Fitzpatrick is, give me Colin Kaepernick over 619 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: RG three. I don't know about that. I think he's 620 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: damaged beyond repair, but you know who knows it might 621 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: both be done. Kapernick is hard to root for. There's 622 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: a reason both these guys are gonna be on the market. 623 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: There's so many flaws to their game at this point. Uh, 624 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 1: any team that gets in bed is in a relatively 625 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: desperate situation to buy stock in one of those two. 626 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: I buy stock in RG three. You can't find two 627 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that have spiraled from heights more quickly than these two. 628 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: So it's gonna take a special coach to want to 629 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: sign up for this. I don't I don't like the 630 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 1: trend though in San Francisco of these guys who did 631 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 1: very well for your organization getting buried on the way 632 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: out that Jim Harbaugh and Colin Kaepernick, and I think 633 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: that speaks to the leadership in San Francisco that that's 634 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: not healthy at all. Is there anyone outside of the 635 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: York family who does like this trend? Right? I mean, 636 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: nobody is loving what they have done over the pars. 637 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: That's a fair point, um, And that's what's happening. Before 638 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: we get to the Thanksgiving preview, I just want to 639 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 1: let everyone know, uh, if you're interested over drinks. A 640 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 1: couple of weekends ago, we started talking up the idea 641 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: of a Around the NFL podcast soundtrack at available on Spotify, 642 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: and that is what I've done. I put together a 643 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: collection of songs that have been used on the show. Now, 644 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: how many playlists in two thousand and fifteen have Corona 645 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: on it? Hell, I might even have to lead lead, 646 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: you know, lead off the whole mix. I'm gonna do 647 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: it right now. That's the power of Spotify. Now Corona 648 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: leading off the whole thing. Uh so we have fourteen 649 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: songs on here. Corona is not a leadoff hitter. I 650 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I think you have. You had a good 651 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: choice there with the Donkeys. Yeah, I'm I'm a all right, 652 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm sort of a playlist connoisseur. You need a leadoff 653 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: batter and you need a clean up hitter. It's sort 654 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: of like a baseball lineup, and Corona is not a 655 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: leadoff hitter. Well, we still have to take her with 656 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: the author of the but just listen to these artists 657 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:09,960 Speaker 1: imagines being like an infomercial, The Donkeys, Corona, Oasis, Wang Chung, Atlantis, 658 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: Morris Set, The Primitive Radio Gods, Grateful Dead, Rob Base, DJ, 659 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: Easy Rock, Cool In the Gang, Pharaoh Match Monk and 660 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: what other playlists as Pharaoh manch and and Your Back 661 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: to Back Tom Cochrane, Bob Dylan, Beck, Mark Morrison and 662 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: us steal my sunshine. That didn't sneak any listen. I'll 663 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: add it right after the show and if anybody takes 664 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: a look at his playlist says, hey, you forgot to 665 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: add insert uh song here, I will do it. We 666 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: we had a big debate about this spotfunds his manner 667 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: because of the integrity of the issue. Mark wanted to 668 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: put St. Lucian on there, but it had never even 669 00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: been referenced on the podcast. Now I referenced that you 670 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: can put it on. It seems a little you know. Yeah, 671 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: we like to be organic with this, but maybe one 672 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: day down the line. St. Lucia, one of Mark's favorite acts, 673 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: we'll find its way into the player. What if now 674 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: that we've mentioned St. Lucia organically, podcast listeners keep asking 675 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: about this group that Mark loves. I can also very 676 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: easily just listen to St. Lucia on my own at home. 677 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: So there you got Around the NFL The Around the 678 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: NFL podcast soundtrack only on Spotify. I don't even know 679 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: how I'll send a link out on the Around the 680 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: NFL Twitter handle. That's how we'll do that. Let's now Greg, 681 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: you're excited about that. I'm pumped up. Play that all 682 00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: your holiday parties coming up. Donkey's Great Donkeys are a 683 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: great uh that song lower they having a great song 684 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: to run too. I'll just put that song on grab exercises. Um. 685 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the name of who's that 686 00:34:52,880 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: runner Prefontaine. That's that's You're Steve Prefontain. All right, now 687 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: it is time for the Thanksgiving preview. Zah. Three games 688 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: to get to. Greg put the slate at a solid B. 689 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: But that's how I seem to read into it. There's 690 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,759 Speaker 1: been some really good years, so I wouldn't say this is, 691 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, a home run like some of them. Fair. 692 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: Let's now get into the three games will start with 693 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: the earliest game, will go in the order in which 694 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: they are played in Week twelve. The first three games 695 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: of Week twelve. First up the Philadelphia Eagles, who uh 696 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: are skidding too. Horrific home losses and back to back 697 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: weeks h and Mark Sanchez was unable to bring a 698 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: spark to the offense in place of an injured Sam Bradford. 699 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: Bradford seems to be making progress. I believe that he's 700 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: cleared concussion protocol is that correct as of Tuesday, So 701 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: I suppose there is an outside chance you might see 702 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: Bradford on Thursday in Detroit, But I would think at 703 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 1: this point it's probably more wise to say that Sanchez 704 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: will make his second start UH in five days. It 705 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: will be against the Lions, who have uh showed showed 706 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: a little pluck lately. The beat they beat the Raiders 707 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: on Sunday, So after that horrific start and that mid 708 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,160 Speaker 1: season house cleaning up top, they seem to be getting 709 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 1: their feet under them a little bit. UH. To me, 710 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: this is a coin flip game, maybe even a little 711 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 1: bit more to the Lions side with the home aspect 712 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: of it. Mark, what do you think? I think it's 713 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: shocking that at Thanksgiving we could call the Philadelphia Eagles 714 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: a bigger spiraling train wreck than the Detroit Lions. And 715 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 1: I get that the Eagles are one game out of 716 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: first and can probably still get to eight and eight 717 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: or nine and seven, just based off of the way 718 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: things could play out in that division. But I look 719 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: at a team that doesn't seem to buy into what 720 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly is doing, and this is an interesting game 721 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: just for what's happening with the Eagle in general. Right now, 722 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 1: for me, I'm driving to Tucson to visit family for Thanksgiving, 723 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: and I thought, I maybe I'll leave at one or 724 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: two in the morning so I can get there in 725 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: time to watch the early game. Now that I see 726 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: with the early guys, I'm gonna wait till later and 727 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: just skip this one. Listen, He's honest, that's just I 728 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: have no interest in watching these two teams. How about 729 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: your boy Amir Abdullah starting now they started to I 730 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 1: would say he had a very last week. Finally, he 731 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 1: had a very good game against Green Bay, even though 732 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: he didn't touch the ball a ton. When he did, 733 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 1: he made a couple of plays made some people miss. 734 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: He had the big kick return. Of course, last week 735 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: he had twelve carries. This Eagles defense, I don't know 736 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: what happened, but they were just getting dominated. They had 737 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: no pass rush whatsoever against Tampa. They couldn't tackle Doug 738 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 1: Martin's running through them. They had three hundred The Bucks 739 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: had three hundred and fifty yards in the first half. 740 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: That's more than the Patriots you know, had last night 741 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,719 Speaker 1: against the Bills the whole game. That's an incredible performance. 742 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,279 Speaker 1: And the Lions are playing, They're playing well the last 743 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: couple of weeks that Stafford, I think has probably had 744 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,000 Speaker 1: his two best games of the season in a row. 745 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: So that's a positive development. I mean, I think they're 746 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: the They're definitely the favorite in this game. The Bucks 747 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: in that game became the second team ever to have 748 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: a running back run for two hundred plus yards and 749 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 1: a quarterback throw for five touchdowns, and the first being 750 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: Derek Anderson and Jamal Lewis in two thousand seven. In 751 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: the narrative from us all along has been that even 752 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 1: though the Eagles offense is a dumpster fire, the defense 753 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: is really good. That's they're falling apart two even I 754 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: just hope Dick Stockton's not calling this game because if 755 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: I hear him say Mark Sanchez again, I'm gonna go 756 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: crazy Sanchez and I don't know, I can't even say 757 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 1: it the way he says it. Emphasis not on the as. 758 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: That's annoying when people must pronounced names. Even this whole 759 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: you know, even this whole Mark Santez, even this whole 760 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: Mark Santez, like is gonna come in and I remember 761 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 1: laughter at they used to see receivers wide open down 762 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: the field. You're not really seeing that anymore. Santez was 763 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: reminded me a little bit of Jason Campbell last week, 764 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: throwing thumb off passes down twenty four points, like to nowhere, 765 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: just like now here's here's another three yard pass. Yeah, 766 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: you're not getting wide receiver play two. In two thousand thirteen, 767 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: when they easily dominated the league with eighty plays of 768 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: twenty plus yards, the two thousand thirteen Broncos were far 769 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: behind on that list. As second part of that was 770 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: Deshaan Jackson, but was because the league just wasn't used 771 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 1: to Chip Kelly schemes. So you've got Riley Cooper running 772 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 1: free in the secondary. But if we've been wrong about 773 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: a lot of things, Derek Carr comes to mind. I 774 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: think in August I was asking why aren't more teams 775 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: poaching the chips three? We were dead wrong about that 776 00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,240 Speaker 1: Bill Laser's offense. I mean, I can see why teams 777 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: aren't doing that great with bubble screens and dump offs. 778 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's we called it a quarterback proof offense, 779 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,319 Speaker 1: which might have been the case when teams were catching up. 780 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: Now it's their quarterbacks have thirteen touchdowns, thirteen picks, and 781 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: it's been inconsistent from wire to wire under center. You 782 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: know today, um, let's talk about the serious stuff. You know. 783 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: Today is the four year anniversary of November when in 784 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: Dominicans who stomped on the guy. I think there was 785 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: a time in eleven, but it might have been twelve. 786 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,960 Speaker 1: But this is the four year anniversary of Nickelback playing 787 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: the halftime show on Thanksgiving at Ford Field, leading to 788 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: a fan revolt, one of my favorite moments of my 789 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: five years. That ended the lines. Fans revolted, They they boo. 790 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: They also, like eleven thousand people signed a petition before 791 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: the UH trying to get Nickelback not to perform. They did. 792 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 1: That was great having Patrick and his ilk. Yeah, I 793 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: don't think Patrick would get behind Nickelback big Sean performing 794 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: this year. The only oh really, that's a surprise, I 795 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: was gonna say. The only you know downside of that 796 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: is the NFL then hired Train to play every event 797 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,320 Speaker 1: that the NFL does from then on. Listen if you're listening, 798 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, do you think front office people and 799 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: people at the league office listen to our show. We 800 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 1: know we know a front office if you're listening right now, 801 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: No more Train. They seem like nice guys. Pat Monahan 802 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: lead singer, seems like a kindly man. But their music 803 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,680 Speaker 1: not good. Do not attach it to the NFL brand 804 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: in such an aggressive way. That's it? Well, you know, 805 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: you'll just get Arrowsmith. If they don't, you'd go train. 806 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 1: So you're you know, you just pick your point. How 807 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: deep do you want to get into this? I mean, 808 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,919 Speaker 1: it's eleven billion dollar company with corporate ties. They're gonna 809 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: go bland. They're not gonna go get some kind of 810 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: controversial band. Anyway, back to the game, Linel Richie, anything else? 811 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: All right, let's Linel Richie. Let's uh, Linel Richie. How 812 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: is even still active? And how you would want to 813 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: He did do a half dive in an NFL game 814 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: in the last five years. I'm talking. I'm sure he 815 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: was hitting all the high notes. Let's go around the 816 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: table and pick a winner and the score. Mark. I 817 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: hate that I'm doing this, and I'm gonna pick Philadelphia 818 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: three to two. Ya take Lions seventeen. Little know in 819 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: fact about Lionel Richie, he Kenny Rogers have the same voice. 820 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: Country music store. Kenny Rodgers and Lionel Richie sound ridiculously alike, 821 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,959 Speaker 1: well similar, all right, I will say, uh, twenty four 822 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 1: to fourteen, the Lions will send the Eagles closer to extinction. 823 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: And I will say that the the statue, the bust 824 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,720 Speaker 1: of Lionel Richie's face, and the whole Hello video remains 825 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: one of the scariest things of all the thirty one 826 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: twenty eight lines. They're gonna punish West for missing this 827 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 1: game by at least having a high score. Both have 828 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,920 Speaker 1: four wins after watch it on game Pass without the 829 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 1: commercials or nickelback. Next game up the Panthers. Here we go, 830 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 1: the Tenano Panthers uh slang everyone in their way. Now 831 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: they head to Big d to face the Cowboys, who 832 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,479 Speaker 1: of course got back in the wind calm with Tony 833 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 1: Romo on Sunday. A lot of talk, too much talk, 834 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: even as someone who who believes the Cowboys are gonna 835 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: be frisky and at the very least place spoiler down 836 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: the stretch. Too much talk about the Cowboys being an 837 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: NFC East favorite or the team that's being picked. I 838 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:17,320 Speaker 1: saw it happen on NFL network air waves on Monday afternoon. 839 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 1: But the reason people are doing that is because they 840 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,560 Speaker 1: are a far better team with Tony Romo involved the 841 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,800 Speaker 1: Panthers West. The Panthers are eventually gonna lose. Could it 842 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: happen on the road in a different type of environment 843 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: with Romo and Dez Bryant and the Cowboys any given Thursday, Dan, 844 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 1: But the Panthers are a much much better team than 845 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. They really have no weaknesses. And you can 846 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,799 Speaker 1: stick Josh Norman who said, I've been circling this date 847 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 1: on my calendar all year on as Bryant and right 848 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: now Josh Norman is the better player than Dez Bryant. Yeah, 849 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 1: Dez hasn't been quite himself since coming out off the injury, 850 00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: including last week nine targets, only four catches. They they 851 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: seem to not be on the same page a couple 852 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 1: of times. We've seen this a lot does Brian's career, 853 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: where Tony Romo goes over to Bryant and it's kind 854 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,320 Speaker 1: of talking about why did you go this way? And 855 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: they haven't really had time. But I don't know. This 856 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: Cowboys team looked like a different team last week. I mean, 857 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 1: they played defense really well against Miami. They ran the 858 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: ball very well. I think I think well, when Ryan 859 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: Tannehill throws it right at Rolando McClean from ten yards 860 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: away from the end zone. Yeah. I think that's you 861 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 1: make your own breaks. I want to see Dallas's line 862 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,879 Speaker 1: versus Carolina's pastors. They had five sacks last We could 863 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: get Charles Johnson back in the mix. And I agree 864 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: with West, I don't I listen. I probably was preaching 865 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: the Tony Romo comeback trail thing where you're gonna rip 866 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,520 Speaker 1: off a bunch of wins, and I wrote about it, 867 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,600 Speaker 1: but I mean in anyone in those posts, though, this 868 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: is the game that looks like it could absolutely pull 869 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: the plug on that scenario very quickly. The Panthers and 870 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals look like the two best teams in the league. 871 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 1: To me right now has beat up as the Patriots are. 872 00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,839 Speaker 1: I just the Panthers are so solid everywhere, and they 873 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 1: get up for games. There's not a game where they've 874 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: had a letdown where they just squeaked by and they 875 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: looked completely lifeless. That's fair. I I think it will 876 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,719 Speaker 1: be a big test because I think that offensive line 877 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:15,560 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys didn't really pass protect that well last week, 878 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 1: is kind of getting their mojo going the last few weeks, 879 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,160 Speaker 1: certainly with McFadden and they just wear you down. And 880 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: these are two teams that want to play a similar style, 881 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,479 Speaker 1: which is a run based offense where you hold the ball, 882 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: and that leads to close games. And I just think 883 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,719 Speaker 1: this is gonna be an interesting game that goes down 884 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: to the last couple of minutes. Something crazy happened. I 885 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 1: I do think the Cowboys are a playoff team when 886 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: Tony Robos in the lineup, So I don't worry that 887 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: they're three and seven. To me, they're back to being 888 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 1: a ten and six type of team right now. And 889 00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: so that's why on a short week you're on the road, 890 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: they could. I think the Panthers could absolutely well. They 891 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,560 Speaker 1: I said they didn't like they've been getting to going. 892 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 1: They've been getting going in the run game. But Olivia 893 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: vern And put a clown suit on the best left 894 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: tackle in football. Let's uh, let's make a pics of 895 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: this game, uh, Mark, I'll start this time. I believe 896 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: the Cowboys will be the team to not Panthers. The 897 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 1: Panthers falled ten and one, still in great shape in 898 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: the NFC. But yes, I think all these and I 899 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,359 Speaker 1: think will be very close game. I agree, I think 900 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: we'll go down to the last possession, in fact, but 901 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: the Cowboys will win four in a late field goal. Mark. 902 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: I agree. Close game. I think it's gonna be the 903 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,399 Speaker 1: best game of the day and probably maybe the only 904 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: good game of the day. It's going to be thirty 905 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: one to twenty eight and overtime. Carolina Panthers reached their 906 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: season average of thirty points per game. I go Panthers 907 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: thirty four, Cowboys seventeen. I think I'm with I'm with Dan. 908 00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys get it done. Tony Romo brought 909 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: it up. We're good at beating undefeated teams. They beat 910 00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 1: the thirteen and no Saints. I'm trying to think of 911 00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,919 Speaker 1: the other team. They beat a nine and o team 912 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,720 Speaker 1: at one point. I think they they knocked Carolina off. Usually, 913 00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: usually I'm uncomfortable with Gregg picking. In act, I would 914 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: reference the Burlap sack, but since he agrees with me integrity, yes, 915 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 1: well that's not a problem. Moving on to the final game, 916 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,280 Speaker 1: the primetime game on NBC with Alan cris the Chicago 917 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: Bears at the Green Bay Packers, and you think, well, 918 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 1: this is kind of a weird game to put his 919 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,720 Speaker 1: the primetime game. It's seems like a possible Packers blowout. 920 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: But because beyond the game, because this is the big 921 00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:30,319 Speaker 1: payday from NBC, because Brett Farve is that long last 922 00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,800 Speaker 1: coming back to lambeau Field to have his number retired 923 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: and have the whole ceremony and all that jazz that 924 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: will be, um, You're you're blessed, Bob Costas. Mark might 925 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 1: might even lose his his slot to pontificate upon a 926 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 1: soapbox at a halftime because they'll probably just stick with 927 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,919 Speaker 1: coverage on the field. I'm not worried about that. There's 928 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: seventeen other sports that he covers during the year where 929 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,720 Speaker 1: he does a professional job. He'll probably have a fifteen 930 00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: minute essay afterwards where he gets teary about the importance 931 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,200 Speaker 1: of Brett Farve. We talk about this off the podcast 932 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: all the time. I don't know how much we have 933 00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: on the podcast, but uh, Bob Costas, who's an accomplished 934 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: broadcaster obviously, but there's no greater fan of Bob Costas 935 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: well an apologist than Mark. It is that number one 936 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,640 Speaker 1: that is not completely accurate. I think that we have 937 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: a bit the four of us on text messages where 938 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: every time, every time anyone sees Costas he gets shredded 939 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 1: on text and then I'll come back and defend him 940 00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,400 Speaker 1: and it's just a bit. But you liked him in 941 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: his early career when in the eighties when he was 942 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: like twenty five doing NFL. I've loved the guy because 943 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: that was my all my Browns games when they were 944 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,920 Speaker 1: a good team. Came with NFL live before the Browns 945 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:44,280 Speaker 1: game and I tape him on VCR. So I watched 946 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: those things and emotional. But you got emotional when old 947 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 1: Bobby's I got all walked out at the Olympics. No, 948 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,000 Speaker 1: I did not. My favorite part about this it's this 949 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,040 Speaker 1: is when if he comes absurd. It's been going on 950 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,360 Speaker 1: for four years. It has uttered nonsense. Thank you. What 951 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: was that something that I've clipped here? Well, that is 952 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:14,400 Speaker 1: uttered nonsense, thank you. Appropriate. Anyway, we should get back 953 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,920 Speaker 1: to the game. Costas Sessler a paring for the ages, 954 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: That's all I don't think. So I don't the way 955 00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: this has been. I've always felt left out on the 956 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,919 Speaker 1: text chain because having that strong and opinion on Bob 957 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:29,640 Speaker 1: Costas just kind of gives makes me scratch my head. Yeah, 958 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,720 Speaker 1: I feel the same way, trust me. So the Bears 959 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: and Packers playing along alright with the conversation here the 960 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,920 Speaker 1: Bears and Packers are playing a football game. Yes, far 961 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,960 Speaker 1: will be the big storyline. Oh yeah, by the way, 962 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 1: remember that that you guys did on the website he said, 963 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,800 Speaker 1: He said, yes, I forgot to mention. I'm gonna have 964 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: you guys both watch his speech and then do sort 965 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: of he said, He said, did he do a good job? 966 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,920 Speaker 1: So Thanksgiving night, say good by to your families, just 967 00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: get on and then just gives them good at far 968 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,120 Speaker 1: of analysis, This gentle mocking of marketized old column uh 969 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,399 Speaker 1: really gave birth to the A t L Debate Club, 970 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 1: which in turn a birth the the Around the NFL podcast, 971 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,719 Speaker 1: Greg So, Greg not into origin stories, but this world 972 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:23,600 Speaker 1: started when he started at NFL dot com. That's true. Anyway, 973 00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,320 Speaker 1: this game, the Packers, to me, this is gonna be 974 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: a blowout, a grizzly blowouts. The Packers got got their 975 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: swagger back, as I said on Sunday, in a nice 976 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,520 Speaker 1: win on the road in Minnesota. And I think you 977 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,880 Speaker 1: add in all the good cheer around the stadium and 978 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: the good vibes with the Brett Farve thing and and 979 00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers looking great on Sunday. I think this is 980 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 1: gonna be a blowout. I'm gonna I'm gonna throw it 981 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,160 Speaker 1: out right now. The score is gonna be thirty eight 982 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: to fourteen and easy win for the Packers, who are 983 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: back in the driver's seat. Yeah. I think you're right 984 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 1: about the far factor, and then the fact that since 985 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers got to Green Bay and Jake Cutler got 986 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: to Chicago, this has been the most one sided rivalry 987 00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL. The Packers win every time. Well, it 988 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: was a good Week one game, and that gave if 989 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,840 Speaker 1: you're a Bears fan some hope Bears this Fox, this 990 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,200 Speaker 1: Fox Gaze formula will at least be competitive because they 991 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 1: very easily could have won that game in Week one, 992 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: and they're playing pretty well. They're playing well enough that 993 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,720 Speaker 1: they beat some bad teams that they may be losing 994 00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,719 Speaker 1: the final seconds to to a good Broncos team. They're 995 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: a competitive team. And the Packers. When I watched them 996 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 1: last week, it didn't I didn't think, Okay, their offense 997 00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: is suddenly solved. I didn't think that they're they're all 998 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: the way back. I gotta see it a little more. 999 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they did make progress they can run the 1000 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,279 Speaker 1: ball again if Eddie Lacy shows up the way he 1001 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 1: did last time. I agree with you on the Bears. 1002 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,799 Speaker 1: I think they're about an eight and eight type team. 1003 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,919 Speaker 1: This isn't gonna be where they're gonna win their game though. 1004 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: And the problem I have is if you don't have 1005 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: al Shan Jeffrey healthy. I don't know what his status 1006 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,120 Speaker 1: will be, but last week when he's when Cutler is 1007 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: throwing the ball to a bunch of guys that most 1008 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:05,120 Speaker 1: football fans have never heard of, right, Kevin White's not 1009 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: showed up all year. You're just too limited. I think 1010 00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:09,279 Speaker 1: Cutlers having his one of his best seasons in a 1011 00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,120 Speaker 1: long time. But you just can't do it against Green 1012 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: Bay and get into a shootout with a team that's 1013 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,520 Speaker 1: gonna put up thirty five points when you have no weapons. 1014 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean, then the no names go on to the defense. 1015 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 1: I mean, last week, why who are these guys making 1016 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 1: plays for the Broncos. Adrian Amos, safety, Chris Prazynski, Bruce Gaston. 1017 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:31,240 Speaker 1: I mean, these aren't just like some of these players. 1018 00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,200 Speaker 1: He's just Mitch on Ragne. These aren't just like Bruce Jim, 1019 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:36,919 Speaker 1: These aren't just guy Christian Jones, who at this point 1020 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:38,839 Speaker 1: we know about because he's been pretty solid all year, 1021 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 1: but not a household name. These aren't just okay, they're 1022 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,080 Speaker 1: gonna come and make a play. These are their main 1023 00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 1: defensive guys. They are doing a really good job, so 1024 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,040 Speaker 1: I guess coaching, I don't discount them being competitive alright, 1025 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: like Cutler's playing very consistent. Let's go around the horn. 1026 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,920 Speaker 1: I already said Packers Mark green Bay will win, but 1027 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,239 Speaker 1: I won't be an epic wipe out. In my book, 1028 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:09,799 Speaker 1: I go thirty war over Chico. Okay, Packers, Bears, Packers, healthy, Packers, nice. 1029 00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 1: So we got the Packers across the board. There you go. 1030 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 1: So one thing, though, I get that they wanted Farv 1031 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: on the ceremony, and so Green Bay is a lock 1032 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: to be in the ninth game. Okay, that's nice, but 1033 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,719 Speaker 1: the league completely slaps down the a f C, and 1034 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: some of us are all an FC people. I don't 1035 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: understand how you came to decision with six NFC teams 1036 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,359 Speaker 1: and then you put the Bears, who we all kind 1037 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: of thought would stink up the house in this game. 1038 00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 1: There was a chance to put a lot of better 1039 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,279 Speaker 1: teams here. I don't get the process. If I'm John Fox, 1040 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,239 Speaker 1: that's part of my like hype speech to my team 1041 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,600 Speaker 1: is that you were basically a lamb being led to 1042 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,160 Speaker 1: slaughter for the big Packers gala on Thanksgiving Night with 1043 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,839 Speaker 1: Brett Farve so ruin the party. Well, I think five 1044 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: has the most touchdowns against the Bears, one of the 1045 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 1: top you know quarterbacks having touchdowns against the team, and 1046 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,560 Speaker 1: he always buried the Bears. I mean, I think that's 1047 00:53:57,600 --> 00:54:00,759 Speaker 1: part a lot of NFC North teams Thanksgiving. That was 1048 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: the number one one originates in the seventeenth century, and 1049 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: the the a f L didn't come along until the 1050 00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 1: nineteen sixties. Well that's fine, but I'm not listening to 1051 00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,440 Speaker 1: that right though I agree it's it's conference bias. I 1052 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 1: believe the same thing happened a year ago. Good job 1053 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:20,000 Speaker 1: by the listeners, by the way, and immediately, um, we 1054 00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 1: were flooded with replies. I wish I could pull up 1055 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: who was the number one, But we were flooded with 1056 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: replies on Cliff Claven from Cheers. That was the money drop, 1057 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:35,279 Speaker 1: the mysterious money drop from Sunday Show. So underestimated, I 1058 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:39,279 Speaker 1: guess Greg Rosenthal and also the Cheers fandom of the 1059 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 1: civilized world. Don't don't underestimate that. All right, before we go, 1060 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:51,600 Speaker 1: let's uh take another stroll through the iTunes comments section 1061 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,960 Speaker 1: on in the old iTunes library. You know you this 1062 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: is how you can get the Around the NFL podcast. 1063 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 1: You can get it on iTunes, you can get it 1064 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,600 Speaker 1: on dot com, you can get it on Stitcher. We 1065 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,839 Speaker 1: want an award? Where is that award? By the way, 1066 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:11,080 Speaker 1: nobody knows where's the Ark of the Covenant? Two of 1067 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,279 Speaker 1: the world's greatest mysteries. So what are the uh you know, 1068 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:17,839 Speaker 1: did we miss anything? You watch it on your app. 1069 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,520 Speaker 1: You can watch us on YouTube. No I didn't. There 1070 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: you go. You could tell your friends about it because 1071 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: we don't have a marketing budget, so you can just 1072 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, put it out there every week. We're also 1073 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 1: in NFL now, Oh yeah, that's right. We're all over 1074 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 1: the place. Do we wanna go with a little breaking news? Yeah, 1075 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,400 Speaker 1: it is confirmed by the Cleveland Browns that Josh McCown 1076 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: will start, not a surprise to anyone in the room. 1077 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,200 Speaker 1: Breaking news. Johnny Manziel will be the number three quarterback 1078 00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:50,239 Speaker 1: often Davis will which Craig had a sandwich bet that 1079 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 1: Austin Davis would start more games than Johnny. Manzel still 1080 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 1: in trouble that right, you may not be. I could 1081 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,040 Speaker 1: see Manzel being put straight to season over. Man is 1082 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,360 Speaker 1: alls done. Why would you need him account injury, is 1083 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,520 Speaker 1: what you're saying. But Petton loves us. Yeah, I don't 1084 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 1: want to root for Josh to be here. We're on 1085 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,960 Speaker 1: a first name basis, all right. So one of the 1086 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 1: good things about the iTunes um you know set up, 1087 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: is they allow users to leave comments. And we always 1088 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,160 Speaker 1: encourage our wonderful listeners, both here in the United States 1089 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: of America and also around the rest of the world 1090 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,600 Speaker 1: to uh leave comments and ratings, whether good or bad. 1091 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: Just be honest and we'll take it and we'll deal 1092 00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:39,160 Speaker 1: with it. So, uh, this segment is called itune comment Reading. 1093 00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,600 Speaker 1: I want of your best efforts. Sorry, let's start with 1094 00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 1: bear with Me the best five stars from junk Nation. 1095 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 1: Great football talk that is fun and entertaining. This is 1096 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: the first NFL podcast it's subscribed to and look forward to, 1097 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 1: look forward to. They also have transitioned well to the 1098 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: YouTube era of NFL podcasts. They make a point to 1099 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:15,879 Speaker 1: explain what's going on. Very nice. They start. Here's another 1100 00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: one l R is solid five stars. I believe that's 1101 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,840 Speaker 1: a reference to Lindsay Rhodes. That's it. L R is solid. 1102 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,400 Speaker 1: She breaks some of the she breaks up some of 1103 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,040 Speaker 1: the knuckle headedness just so. Probably in too much demand 1104 00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:35,720 Speaker 1: to keep her overly involved. Thanks guys, Thanks to Lindsay too, 1105 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,160 Speaker 1: one of our best dat I'll do another nice and 1106 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:42,640 Speaker 1: it's the holiday season. This is my favorite pod. Well, 1107 00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:47,560 Speaker 1: that's nice from Mark Baker in Prague. This is consistently 1108 00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,720 Speaker 1: my favorite podcast of the week. I listened to thirty 1109 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:53,200 Speaker 1: each week. That's a lot of podcasts. Even though I 1110 00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,320 Speaker 1: live in Europe and don't get a chance to see 1111 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,280 Speaker 1: many NFL games, I enjoy the banter. Everyone plays their 1112 00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 1: role perfectly in the balance is painfully on the line 1113 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 1: between their roles and how they really are. Like great 1114 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: theaters should be, Wow, great city, damn Beautiful. Is the 1115 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: diva host, quick to pick up on any slight reel 1116 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,240 Speaker 1: or imagined. Greg is the beleaguered boss boss bounced somewhere 1117 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,560 Speaker 1: between exasperated and trying to motivate the team. Chris is 1118 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: the angry old man, and Mark, a Browns fan like me, 1119 00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 1: always seems like he just rolled out of bed. And 1120 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:29,920 Speaker 1: has better things to do than be on this podcast. 1121 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 1: It sounds like a crazy combination, but the chemistry is perfect. 1122 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,760 Speaker 1: I can imagine they are really great friends in real life. 1123 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: Keep on making podcasts. You know what. That's true too, 1124 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: We're all friends. That that was he had it nailed. 1125 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: We've got to have a devastating negative one coming up. 1126 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: Well this Vikings subred this is the most recent one. 1127 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,520 Speaker 1: Just at the top, and uh not to you know, 1128 00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: pick out anybody in particular, avoid one star. Westling makes 1129 00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,480 Speaker 1: this pot unbearable. If I if I get really loud 1130 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: when someone makes a good point, does that make me right? No, Chris, No, 1131 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: it does not. Thank you for weighing in. Vikings ran it. Oh, 1132 00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: that's gotta be it all right. Zigzag eighty on October 1133 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:19,240 Speaker 1: nineteen had this to say, you guys, ready, it's not 1134 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,000 Speaker 1: always fun. We gotta we gotta, you know, put some pot. 1135 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: We gotta put the positives unbury this one. This podcast. 1136 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: This is from Zigzag eighty. This podcast features Greg Rosenthal 1137 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: the Block of Wood in parentheses. Dan hansis the metrosexual 1138 00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: possibly living a double life, Mark Sessler and Chris Westling 1139 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 1: parentheses The Haters and Kevin Patra who the only reason 1140 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 1: I listened to this podcast is Dan hans Is, who, 1141 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: while amusing, seems to have no actual insight into football. 1142 00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,240 Speaker 1: Here's a guy who would call any team with Fitzpatrick 1143 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,280 Speaker 1: as it's QB, the worst in the league. But because 1144 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:03,280 Speaker 1: fitz is on the Jets that're going to the super Bowl, 1145 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:08,520 Speaker 1: well that's not true, but it's mostly accurate. That one thing. Uh, 1146 01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,280 Speaker 1: if I stop listening to these jokers, that'd probably be 1147 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 1: number one in the nation on fan duel and richer 1148 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,120 Speaker 1: than Oprah. Spells Oprah wrong? But help if you have 1149 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 1: some intelligence, you fool. Oh this is good. There's even 1150 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:25,400 Speaker 1: a girl on the podcast. Now, sorry that there's a woman. 1151 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:29,480 Speaker 1: Shocking that this caveman would call you hitting metro sexual. Uh. 1152 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,760 Speaker 1: This podcast a generous two out of five stars. Hey, 1153 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,520 Speaker 1: if they keep listening after all that, we'll do. We'll 1154 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 1: go out on top of the good one. This one 1155 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:47,440 Speaker 1: from a see Vice, my favorite podcast for more than 1156 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,840 Speaker 1: two years. That's nice. Better than comedy, Bang bang don't. 1157 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,240 Speaker 1: That's a nice compliment. A perfect mix of football analysis 1158 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,160 Speaker 1: and humor. It is the result of the unique personalities 1159 01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,080 Speaker 1: of the four and as soon as the shadow we 1160 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: league figures. Try to change it, they will destroy it, 1161 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 1: and I agree with that. That's it. By the way, 1162 01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 1: are you creeps writing the negative reviews? Who raised you 1163 01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:12,320 Speaker 1: to complain about free stuff? That's all I have to 1164 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 1: say about that. Well, it's a you know, it's a 1165 01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,120 Speaker 1: free country and they could share their opinions if they 1166 01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 1: should think the show is not good. But the free country, 1167 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: you're free to be an idiot. Yeah, you could say 1168 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,920 Speaker 1: what everyone. On balance, the ratings have been tremendous. We 1169 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,480 Speaker 1: have a four and a half out of five star ratings. 1170 01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Uh so, thank you to everyone who leaves comments. Again, 1171 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: both good and bad. We like that you're invested in 1172 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:41,280 Speaker 1: the show, or interested, or even just a troll. You know, 1173 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,400 Speaker 1: that's fine as long as you listen. There you go. 1174 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,280 Speaker 1: That's it for the podcast today. Any final thoughts Mark, 1175 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:53,520 Speaker 1: Greg Rosentel, Block of Wood. We'll be back tomorrow, back 1176 01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,600 Speaker 1: to back shows. We love it on Wednesday? Uh will 1177 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,520 Speaker 1: we be publishing on Wednesday? Greg? Are we gonna record 1178 01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: it and then sit on it? Put it out? I 1179 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,520 Speaker 1: like that? Put it out? So you got two shows 1180 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,520 Speaker 1: coming up before the Thanksgiving holiday? Uh here in America? 1181 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: Uh so, make sure you check us out tomorrow. Uh. 1182 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,320 Speaker 1: That's it for now. This is Dan Hansas signing off 1183 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:21,800 Speaker 1: for Quiet Storm. The mailman, the block of wood. No, 1184 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,760 Speaker 1: he's the boss, and I see it behind the glass. 1185 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:28,240 Speaker 1: Till Wednesday.