1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Folks, we're back on the Way concept presented by The 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Ring magazine, and today we have breaking news that I 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: don't even know if it's true yet or not. It's 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: being reported and I can't even believe I'm about to 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: tell you that Andrew Tate is coming out of retirement 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: to fight on Misfits. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: That's the report. 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: What is happening. Let's get into it, the breakdown. Let's go. 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: I have been our favorite clippers and shippers are reporting, 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: or at least secondhand reporting from the Mirror Sport that 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Andrew Tait, believe it or not, is set to face 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: the Chase to more on Misfits. 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 2: I can't even believe. 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: I just said that Andrew Tait versus Chase de Moore 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: in Dubai on September twentieth as a headline act for 16 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: Misfits twenty three. Now, before we even get into the 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 1: story itself, there is a tweet from Maam's Taylor just 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: was that to okay it was today, keep December twentieth three, 19 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,759 Speaker 1: whatever you do the fight before Christmas. I like the wordplay, 20 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Find them goofies that leaked at fans to 21 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: deserve to know something though this isn't necessarily confirmation that 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: this is the fight that's going to happen between Chase 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: De Moore and Andrew Tait. 24 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 2: But where there's smoke, there's fire, and guys. 25 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,679 Speaker 1: I don't know a single thing about anything. I am 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: reporting just based on what I'm seeing, just like you 27 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 1: guys are. But Andrew Tait potentially at age how old 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: is Andrew Tate at age thirty eight rumored to be 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: reported to be coming out of retirement to fight on 30 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: a Dubai card misfits Dubai card right at the end 31 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: of the year Christmas time period in the same arena, 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: the Cocacola Arena where Degie fought Mayweather. I commentated that fight. 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: I was there that night, so if this is going down, 34 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it would only be right if I 35 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: was there again. 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And now 77 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: let's get back into the breakdown. There's a lot to 78 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: speculate on here. Number One, the opponent is supposedly Chase More, 79 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: which would mean that this is going to be contested 80 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: in the heavyweight division. And Chase, you know, the goat 81 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 1: of Misfits, right, He's he's been a reliable guy. 82 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: I love this for Chase. 83 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: Chase gets a massive opportunity versus a massive name, one 84 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: of the biggest worldwide names on the planet, and Andrew 85 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: Tait's that's someone damn near everybody knows of, at least 86 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: the name itself. And if you guys didn't know, Andrew 87 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: Tait did have an extensive kickboxing career. I don't know 88 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: if it was the highest level of kwe or glory, 89 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: but he was a long tenured kickboxer that did have 90 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: a pretty decent record and won some regional belts or 91 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: maybe even some world title belts. I'm not exactly sure 92 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: the level, but I've seen him on tape. He looks 93 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: fucking good. He looks better than anyone Chase has ever fought. 94 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that right now. And that was in kickboxing, 95 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: and I've seen him do some sparring stuff boxing since then, 96 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: and we can take a look at all of that 97 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: stuff if this report ends up being true. 98 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: So let's let's get to it really quickly. 99 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: Exclusive Andrew ta set to fight Chase de Moore on 100 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: Misfits boxing debut. Tait was a world champion in kickboxing 101 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: before emerging is one of the most controversial influencers on 102 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: social media, and Mirror Fighting understands that he will take. 103 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 2: On actor turned boxer De Moore in Dubai on this No. 104 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Number twentieth as a headline act for Misfits twenty three. Yeah, 105 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 1: I mean it wouldn't make sense to bring Andrew Tait in, 106 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: who yes, is massively controversial. Most people are either on 107 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: one side or the other when they think Andrew Tait 108 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: is a piece of shit, or Andrew Tait is an 109 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: oracle of wisdom, or however you want to look at him. 110 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: He's helping young men, he's hurting young men. I don't 111 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 1: personally have enough information to speak knowledgeably about Andrew Tait 112 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: the person, but I know as a kickboxer and as 113 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: a person, he is a global phenomenon and his name 114 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: attached to Misfits brings a lot of eyeballs. You can't 115 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: deny that in any way, shape or form. So of 116 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: course this had to be a main event. If you're 117 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: going to do an on an event like this, this 118 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: would be a huge, huge landing for Misfits. I don't 119 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 1: even want to venture what they had to pay him to. Essentially, 120 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: if this is true, come in and do this. 121 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: I have no idea, but I think. 122 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: It's a bit of a strategic move because one you 123 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: have Chase to Moore, who they have been trying to 124 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: promote for a while now and been someone that's been 125 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: a very loyal heavyweight to Misfits, and let's say Chase 126 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: somehow wins. You've created somewhat of a star kind of 127 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: with Chase moving forward in your division and having him 128 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: on Misfits. Or you bring Andrew Tate in and Andretate 129 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: beats Chase to More and all of a sudden, you 130 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: have one of the biggest names in the world on 131 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: your boxing promotion, potentially for more. 132 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 2: Fights down the line. Anyway, let's keep going. 133 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: De More holds the Misfits heavyweight title and has already 134 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: fought five times this year, most recently drawing against Frain 135 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: Haranza Gonzalez last month. 136 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 2: I think that was in some somewhere outside of Misfits. 137 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: Chase does these fights where he goes and just just 138 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: goes and fights a guy. 139 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't know where he does him. I'm maybe down 140 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: in Mexico, I'm not sure. But they're not sanctioned by 141 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: Misfits or any sanctioning body that Misfits is associated with. 142 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: But he's still getting experience and five fights in one year. 143 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: You have to come in. 144 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: It is understood that the final Misfits card of the 145 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: year will also feature hold on Darren Till, who has 146 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: also long been linked with his own fight against Tate. Okay, 147 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 1: this is interesting if Andrew Tait is in the main event, 148 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: which makes sense, and Darren Till is not fighting Andrew Tait. 149 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 2: Again, this is all being reported by the Mirror. 150 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: I have no idea who is Darren Til fighting if 151 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: this is all lining up this way, because you're surely 152 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: you don't put Darren Till against Carl Frotchen the Komaine, 153 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,119 Speaker 1: not the Cobra, No way, no, shay, no how Plus 154 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: you'd want to do that one in the UK, I 155 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: would think, I don't know. I mean again, you look 156 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: back at Misfits cards and especially the Prime card, and 157 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: they did have Logan Paul Dylan Danis in the co 158 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: main event under KSI Tommy Fury. That was essentially a 159 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: card that could have had a couple different main events. 160 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: But if you're bringing Darren Till in for this one, 161 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: who has been their main event guy, the Darren Stewart fight, 162 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: the Anthony Taylor fight, the Luke rock Old fight, big 163 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: time made events for Misfits. If you're bringing him in 164 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: again and sticking him in the Comaine who in the 165 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: world would that be against? The Mike Perry name comes 166 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: to mind. He just had a big time win on BKFC. Sure, 167 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: Jorge mos Vidal. Darren Till, I'm sure would love to 168 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: get that fight back after being knocked out in the 169 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: UFC by Jorge. 170 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: But I don't know if orges in shape or if 171 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: he's training. I have no idea. 172 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: But do you guys remember back, like, I don't know, 173 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: a month ago, sometime around then, something called front Kick Online. 174 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is a legit. 175 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: Outlet or not, but they came out with an exclusive 176 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: that said UFC Hall of Famer in three time title 177 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: contender Alexander Gustafson turns to boxing. Quote, the maler is 178 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: currently in advanced talks with Misfits Boxing to face a 179 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: fellow UFC veteran in the boxing ring. Does that not 180 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: sound just like a potential opponent for Darren Till. I mean, 181 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: who else would be a UFC veteran that they would 182 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: want to have in that position? 183 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,319 Speaker 2: Now, the size. 184 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: Difference between those two would be crazy, And if Gustifson 185 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: could get back down to like two under two hundred pounds, 186 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: then I'm down for it. 187 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: But Gustisen was a big light heavyweight. 188 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: He was six four cutting weight to make two zero five, 189 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: So I don't know if he could do it, but 190 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: if he could, we just saw Darren Till take down 191 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: another tall former middleweight move to light heavyweight and Luke 192 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: rock Hole. Now this would be a far bigger test 193 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: from the maler, but still that would be an insane fight. 194 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: Til versus Gustafson boxing as a co Maine to Andrew Tate, 195 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: that would be fucking huge. 196 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 2: And again it sets up that. 197 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: Potential for a Tate Darren n Til fight down the line, 198 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: or Darren Til Carl Frotz or whatever you want to do. 199 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 2: But there's that. 200 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: And then also I didn't talk about this, but Leo, 201 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,679 Speaker 1: you can find the footage. Dylan Danis was on Demitrius 202 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Johnson's podcast and he was talking about potentially fighting again 203 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 1: soon and that he would be fighting an MMA veteran 204 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: in an MMA fight UFC champion in his next one. 205 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: The guy that we're gonna fight next, I don't know. 206 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm allowed to say it. 207 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: It's a good name for me being three and oh 208 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 2: it's a three time UC world champion. So Okay, yeah, okay, 209 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 2: now it is this under misfits strap, Yeah, it would 210 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 2: be under misfits for the bill. Do you have a 211 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 2: date for that yet? I think it's December December. I 212 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 2: don't know. 213 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: I don't know who it could be, but this could 214 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: all be happening on the same card, folks, and that's 215 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: fucking insane. 216 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 2: Who else is gonna be? 217 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: I mean, Dean the Greatest talking about fighters leaking this 218 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: and that he's probably gonna be on the card. 219 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: This thing is getting stacked. 220 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: Son Tait was a war time world champion and kickboxing 221 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: winning his last title twelve years ago. 222 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 2: He retired with a. 223 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: Record of seventy six and nine, winning thirty two of 224 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 1: his fights by knockout before retiring following his final fight 225 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty and more is one eight of his 226 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: fourteen boxing fights and is undefeated in the last two years. 227 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: His clash with Tate is set to take place. The 228 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Coca Cola Arena also hosted Floyd Mayweather's exhibition with Degi 229 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. Okay, and hold on a second, 230 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: I didn't see this tweet a second ago. I'm not 231 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: gonna say this is Mams Taylor confirming it, because I 232 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: can't say that, but this is him confirming it without 233 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: confirming it. 234 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 2: Mam says. 235 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: If you're looking to watch woke content, watch the Snow 236 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: White remake or something IDK with the hands out. This 237 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: has to be referring to Andrew Tait because he is 238 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 1: so controversial. Because he is, let's be honest, if we're 239 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: going political here, he is hated by the left leaning 240 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: political spectrum for well allegations of crimes that he has committed, 241 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: and we don't know what the truth is there or 242 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: if he's going to be convicted of those things, but 243 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: as of right now, there are just allegations and I 244 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 1: think he's continuing to fight those allegations. But that to 245 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: me seems like a soft commitment to saying, yeah, we're 246 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: having Andrew Tate fight. So with that being said, I'm 247 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and you know, go out. 248 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: On a limb and say this is actually happening. It 249 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: may not be. 250 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's gonna be against Chase to Moore. 251 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: Chase doesn't even know apparently, as he tweeted this, this 252 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: is the first time I'm hearing about this. Definitely cap 253 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: but shit, I'll take a Payday, so who knows what's 254 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: actually happening. I've seen Chase pull stuff like this before, 255 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: though not to like ruin the gag here if that's 256 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: what's going on, but I've seen him do this and 257 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: then it ended up being true. And then you had 258 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: this interesting Instagram post from Misfits today which I don't 259 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: know if it has anything to do with anything, but 260 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: when you're hearing the names on this December card and 261 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: you're seeing Andrew Tate, Darren Till, potentially I have no idea, 262 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: but potentially Dean the Great and now a tweet or 263 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: not a tweet and an Instagram post from Misfits nine 264 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: hours ago about a Nissan Gibb. 265 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: Let's take a look at this. 266 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 3: For our top three fighters we'd love to see GiB face. 267 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 3: We're gonna start off with Tony Ferguson. I think that 268 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 3: unification fight is something. 269 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: That hold on a second. 270 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: Are you telling me we might potentially get a Nissan 271 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: Gibb Tony Ferguson on this card as well. I'm not 272 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: saying that's what they're leaning at here or even what 273 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: they're hinting at, but it would make sense. You wouldn't 274 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: have to put GiB Or Tony in a compromising main 275 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: event spot in a place in Dubai where we don't 276 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: know how they would do. There's still massive names. There 277 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: would be the Misfits belt on the line, and you 278 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:23,359 Speaker 1: have a legend. 279 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: In Tony Ferguson that had one of the biggest. 280 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: Impacts potentially you could have coming into Misfits beating Salt Poppy. 281 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: People going absolutely nuts. I was going nuts on commentary. 282 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: And now the guy that Salt Poppy potentially was gonna 283 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: fight GiB or whoever else, maybe Slim in a rematch, 284 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: Tony beats him. Now Tony gets gibb after give beats Slim. 285 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: And the guitar card where I came out with the 286 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: mask on and was I, you're ready to go potential card, 287 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: potential potential Misfits December card main event. Andrew Tay versus 288 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: chase him more. 289 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: Then we have our comin Darren. 290 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: Hill versus question Mark, Mike Perry or hey, we don't know, 291 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 1: Tony Ferguson versus Annis Son, Kay Dean Great versus Lil 292 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: Cray Cray. All right, so let's just say and I'm 293 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm I'm grasping at Strawsier I have no idea if 294 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 1: this would be a potential layout of the card, but 295 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: if you had something like this, I forgot about this. 296 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: But let's just say even Dylan Danis is available, right yeah, 297 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: Misfits Mma Dylandnis versus whoever, Dean the Great potentially versus 298 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,599 Speaker 1: LITL Craig Cray, which I think everybody would want to 299 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: see in this scene, specifically Tony Ferguson a Nissan GIBB, 300 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: Darren Till versus maybe Mike Perry, maybe Jorge somebody. I 301 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: have no idea, Andrew Tate Chase to more in the 302 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: main event, This right here is a pretty fucking stacked Misfits. 303 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 2: Card, the best one top to bottom, I would. 304 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: Say, since a prime card, at least as far as 305 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: name value is concerned. And again this is just me 306 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: hypothetically making a card up, but I have to think 307 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: that there's a reason they're starting to promo a Nissan 308 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: GI and what he's gonna do next? Talking about Tony Ferguson, 309 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: who else. 310 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 3: And I would say the opponent that would be crazy 311 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: to watch GiB face is none other than a mere Kan. 312 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:11,760 Speaker 3: Now when we're CON's been expressing some interest here and there, 313 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 3: he's been sprinkling on the Misfits. 314 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 2: Boty, you'd have. 315 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: To pay a mere kan an obscene amount of money. 316 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: I think for him to do this, it wouldn't be 317 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: as risky for a mere con as potentially some other 318 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: fights that he could take for a big bag. Not 319 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: to say GiB can't hurt. 320 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: Him or whatever. 321 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a mere fucking con and he still 322 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: looks like he's in decent enough shape. 323 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. 324 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 1: That would be out of left field. That would be 325 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: one I did not expect. I would most expect Tony Ferguson, 326 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: and I think that would probably be the easiest one 327 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: to get done. So if that's the case, then yeah, 328 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: that would be an insane Misfits card. 329 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 2: And again this is all alleged, This is all rumor. 330 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: We don't really have any confirmation of anything right now 331 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: to go off and say, yep, this is one thousand 332 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 1: percent gonna happen. 333 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: Yep, yup, yup, this is what it is. But bear 334 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: with me. 335 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: Let Mams Taylor Cook here because again you may look 336 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: at this and go why Chase the more? 337 00:14:58,960 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: Why why watch Chase is. 338 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: Gon over the Moon for Misfits and done a lot 339 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: of things that other guys wouldn't have done for whatever 340 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: amount of money on short notice. 341 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 2: He's gone out and really been a team player. 342 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: And not to say that that necessarily deserves a massive 343 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: Andrew Tait fight, but if Tate says yes and they're 344 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: able to pay both guys what they want, this is 345 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 1: a good first intro fight for Andrew Tait and it's 346 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: a moment or chase to more that can allow him 347 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: to maybe take some of the shine. And let's say 348 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 1: it does go Chase his way, then you've built your 349 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: homegrown star on Misfits and you're able to do something 350 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: with him. But if it goes the other way and 351 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Tate wins, who have Darren Till on the card 352 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: in the comain or a reason, And if that were 353 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: to be the case, that Darren Hill wins Andrew Tait wins, 354 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: you're talking about a main event that would be huge. 355 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: And maybe you don't even do that. Maybe you have 356 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: Andrew Tate off to the side and you're waiting for 357 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: who to match him up with next, But then you 358 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: have Darren Till and Carl Froch and that one's still 359 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: fucking huge, especially in the UK. This is what I 360 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: like to see misfits doing. They operate in a space 361 00:15:55,920 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: outside of the conventional boxing circle, and they do so 362 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: by getting names like Andrew Tait, whether you like him 363 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: or not. They get names like Carl Frotz potentially involved, 364 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: Darren till is there, Tony Ferguson's there, Dylan Danis is there. 365 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: There's a mixed bag of what they can bring, and 366 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: it is unique and it is different, and I like 367 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: that they're leaning further and further into unique and different 368 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: without it being just a complete circus clusterfuck like this. 369 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: This makes sense. 370 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: Now this got leaked and this report ends up being true, 371 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: that will be unfortunate that they didn't get to announce 372 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: it on their own, But who cares, because this would 373 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: be fucking insane. 374 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 2: I'm down for it. I can't wait to watch if 375 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 2: this is true, this card fill out, because. 376 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: If Andrew Tate's at the top of it, just like 377 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: we've seen when KSI is at the top of pay 378 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: per view cards with Misfits and with his own, that 379 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: usually means like e Connor McGregor, effect, all the big 380 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: names want to come up and fight on that card 381 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: because one the pay is going to be higher too. 382 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: The eyes are gonna be there. Three the matchups are 383 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: more intriguing. That moment, that thing that built influencer boxing 384 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: from the beginning and has stayed around for crossover boxing. 385 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: That moment of all eyes on you, that happens when 386 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 1: you have the star, the notoriety of somebody, the level 387 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: of and Andrew Tata, Ksi, Connor McGregor, a Jake Paul 388 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: a little bit. All those things come flooding back into 389 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: the scene. So that's the video, man, that's the report. Allegedly, 390 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 1: according to The Mirror, Fighting, Andrew Tait will be making 391 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: his debut on Misfits and his return to fighting after 392 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: being retired for five years. Taken on Chase de Moore 393 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,199 Speaker 1: in Dubai December twentieth, and I want to know what 394 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:34,360 Speaker 1: you guys think. Are you pumped, frustrated, confused, excited? What 395 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 1: do you think about Andrew Tait being on Misfits? What 396 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: do you think of this potential card? Allegedly, again from 397 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: the Mirror, Darren Hill could be on this card Misfits, 398 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: putting a suspicious post out on Instagram about GiB potentially 399 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 1: coming back soon and talking about plans for him Deemed 400 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: the great making posts about a fight announcement soon and 401 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: commenting under all these leaked announcements. There's some things happening, 402 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: some things are going on. I'm gonna get on this 403 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: your phone and check out what I can find out 404 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: for myself. But I have no idea what to make 405 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: of any of this. I gotta admit though, if it's true, 406 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,719 Speaker 1: I'm pretty damn excited the fight before Christmas. If this 407 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: goes down, it would be one of the best I 408 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: think Misfits events to date. 409 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: So is this real? Is this happening? 410 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, guys, I don't I have no idea, 411 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: But as we always do. 412 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 2: Here at the Way Concept, we don't have answers. 413 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: But December twentieth, live in Dubai, which is a somewhat 414 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: of an announcement in its own right in the Middle East, 415 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: Misfits comes back for the fight before Christmas. 416 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: What happens then, I guess we'll find out. All right, folks, we. 417 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: Are back on the Way cossept presented by The Ring Magazine, 418 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: and today I just can't believe what I just saw 419 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: in read the sitting heavyweight world champion, undisputed, absolute monster 420 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: of a fighter, Alexandr Usik one of my favorite fighters 421 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: in boxing. I'm prefacing what I'm about to tell you 422 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 1: with telling you I love Alexander Usik. I think he 423 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: is one of the best talents we've seen at Cruiser 424 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: in heavyweight combined. He is right now the staple of 425 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: heavyweight boxing and he's taken out all challengers to this point. 426 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: But he just said something that really disappointed. He said 427 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: something that I can't believe he said, and now that 428 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: he said it, I'm just I'm questioning a little bit 429 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 1: of what it is that's going on here with Alexander Uzik. 430 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: As he was referring to the heavyweight division, how long 431 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: he's gonna fight in the division, and he specifically named 432 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: one of the best prospects at heavyweight right now in 433 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: the world, Moses Atalma, and he said, I won't fight him. 434 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: I'm not going to fight Moses Atalma, not now. I'm 435 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: not gonna fight him ever. And to me, that's blame. 436 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 1: What do I mean the breakdown? 437 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 2: Let's go. 438 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: All right, So here's the graphic Alexander Usik reported by 439 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: The Ring magazine. I don't know where this quote comes from, 440 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: but he says, no, I won't fight Atalma he's young, 441 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:57,479 Speaker 1: always teasing, and he said to himself, he doesn't hit 442 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: Grandpa's I'll fight until I'm forty one. Then I'll build 443 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: a sports academy. I'll train there and train others. What 444 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: is that for a guy in Alexander Usik that has 445 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: fought tooth and nail to get to heavyweight, had to 446 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,959 Speaker 1: fight his way through cruiserweight, had to fight his way 447 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: into opportunities at the heavyweight division, and then won those fights, 448 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: gave the rematches one those fights, and yes, before we 449 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: even get into what I know, this comment section is 450 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 1: gonna be what did Moses Atalma do to deserve an 451 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: Alexander Ussik fight? I'm not saying right now, Right now, 452 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: it should be Joseph Parker, whatever injury back injury that 453 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: Alexander Ussik's dealing with right now, hopefully he gets healthy. 454 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: We have Parker Wordley. 455 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: Coming up, and you know that fights a banger, but 456 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: it should have been Joseph Parker even before the Duboi rematch. 457 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: I'll be honest, that should have been Joseph Parker right then, 458 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: right there, And yes, there's Kaby Yell out there as well. 459 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: But what we're seeing Alexander Ussik do, and I never 460 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: thought i'd see him do. This is essentially rule out 461 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 1: one fighter in the heavyweight division that he will not fight. 462 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: Notice again, I'm not talking about right now because no, 463 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: Moses to Talma should not be fighting Alexander Usik right now. 464 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: He has not earned that right. And again he's not 465 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,439 Speaker 1: even fought a top ten guy. There's things that Moses 466 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: needs to do. But right now, Usik is thirty eight 467 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,920 Speaker 1: years old. His birthdays in January, meaning by the time 468 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: the world does three more laps around the sun. And yes, 469 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: for you flat earthers, the Sun does not move around 470 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: the Earth. The Earth moves around the Sun. Alex Under 471 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: Usak will be forty one. That'll be three more years 472 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: or two and some change. I guess of Moses Atalma 473 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: gaining experience in the heavyweight division, and surely, I mean, 474 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: I think we all are in agree ins that at 475 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: that point he'll have not only more experience, but he'll 476 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,959 Speaker 1: have fought tougher guys and be in position for a 477 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: heavyweight world championship. Maybe the heavyweight world champion still being 478 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Usik doesn't mean that USA can't fight Parker or Kabiel. 479 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 1: But I just don't want to see Usik Fury three. 480 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean, honest, I don't really care to see Usik 481 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: Joshua three or Usik du Wa Thrie. We've seen what 482 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: happens there. He's a better boxer than all three of 483 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 1: them combined, and maybe not combine. 484 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: I'm a little crazy, but you get what I'm saying. 485 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: It would be one thing if Alexander Usak came out 486 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: and was like, listen, I don't want to fight for 487 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: very much longer. 488 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: I want one more fight. 489 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: I want And I know that he had kind of 490 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: tea that after the DWI fight, but this is is 491 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: a completely different statement. And even after the DWI fight 492 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: he was saying, you know, I'm just getting started, or 493 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: I've still got a lot left in me or whatever 494 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing whatever he said. He's talking about two years 495 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: in change, still left in his career. And you don't 496 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,119 Speaker 1: you notice he's not saying I won't fight Joseph Parker 497 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: or I won't fight you know, Kabyel. He's singling out 498 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: Moses Atalma. I have to think that's because Moses Atalma 499 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: as a younger guy. You see kind of him mentioning 500 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: it here. He's like he said himself, he doesn't hit 501 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: Grandpa's he's young. He's always teasing me. 502 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: Who sick. 503 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 1: Is a bit of a jokester, and he's always understood 504 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: the meaning of taking tough fights and building big fights 505 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,959 Speaker 1: like he has with Fury Joshua, doing the character stuff, 506 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: all of that. So I I it racks my brain 507 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: to think why he wouldn't if he's going to be 508 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: in the sport for a couple more years, why he 509 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't take on what, in my opinion, will be the 510 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: most challenging fighter at that time. 511 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: It'll be Moses Atalma. 512 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: I know that Moses skipped out on the IBF title eliminator. 513 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: I get that, but I also saw that he was 514 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 1: potentially going to step up for the WBA regular belt, 515 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: which is an easier fight. I get that, but a 516 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: point being that's how close Moses to Talma is already 517 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,440 Speaker 1: right now to potentially being a world title contender, whether 518 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: it's for the IBF, whether it's for the WBA. He's 519 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: a couple of fights away from fighting for a belt, 520 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: maybe one fight away from fighting for a belt, And 521 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: you're telling me he's not going to be at Usik's 522 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: level as far as worthy of a world championship in 523 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: those two years. 524 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 2: That's bullshit. 525 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: I don't believe that at the least bit I don't 526 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: believe it. And for people that are going to come 527 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: out and be like, well, Usik can. 528 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: Do what he wants. 529 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: He's earned that right, Sure, he can do what he wants. 530 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: But when you say that and then you exclusively say 531 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,679 Speaker 1: you're not going to fight the one guy that I 532 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: believe in the heavyweight division can actually challenge Usik for 533 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: his belts, I'll be honest. I'm at that point now 534 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: where I don't know. I don't think Joseph Parker is 535 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: going to challenge Usick for those belts. I don't think 536 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: Kabiel is going to get those belts off him. There's 537 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: one guy that I think, realistically, in the next year 538 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: and a half to two years, can get those belts 539 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: off Usik, and I think it's Moses to Talma. 540 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: That's what I want to see. 541 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: I want to see the next big thing coming up 542 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: and trying his hand. And I said the same thing 543 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,360 Speaker 1: in MMA with John Jones and the Tom aspinall situation, 544 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: either you stay around long enough for that new guy 545 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: to come up and take the belts or you retire 546 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: before it happens, and Usik's kind of playing that middle 547 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,359 Speaker 1: ground where he'll fight other guys. Then again, those guys 548 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: more deserving right now, that's fine, fighter, Joseph Parkers, fight 549 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: your kab yells. I'm fine with that, But don't don't 550 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: automatically dismiss a potential fight with one of the bigger 551 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 1: names and one of the most talented heavyweight boxers I've 552 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,320 Speaker 1: seen in a while coming up, when inevitably he'll be 553 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: in that position. 554 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: Why would you do that? 555 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: Why would you immediately shut it down unless it was 556 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: just simply that you didn't want any part of him. 557 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: If you're Usik, you want no part of a talma, 558 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: which tells me that's the one guy he's not confident 559 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: in beating right. 560 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 2: Now or in two years. 561 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: It's it's a very just disappointing situation because I'm I'm 562 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: I was planning on being hyped for that fight in 563 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: a couple of years. I was planning on watching this 564 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: story build between the greatest of this generation in Alexander 565 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: Usik and potentially the best of the next generation, him 566 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: fighting his way to the top of the mountain, Usik 567 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: there waiting on him and we have this ultimate showdown, 568 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: and that was what I was I was so pumped 569 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: to see And don't get me wrong, I'm pumped to 570 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: see Parker give it a shot. He's had a run 571 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 1: that's been insane to watch and he deserves his shot. 572 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: Kabyell same thing. But like this, it just leaves a 573 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: bad taste in my mouth. That makes me, like, think 574 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: of the problems that boxing has had for as long 575 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: as it's had, the problems of fighters not fighting the 576 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: best at the time they are the best. Lusik hasn't 577 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: done that to this point. Lusik has fought every best 578 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: guy that he can and maybe again, if you want 579 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: to say, he's deserved the right now to just call 580 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: his shots and he's gonna He's probably gonna fight Joseph 581 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: Parker will see again if the back injury and whatever else, 582 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: He's probably gonna fight Kabyel at one point, He's probably 583 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 1: gonna fight Fury for the third time. Meanwhile, you have 584 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: this freaking monster in waiting in Moses a Talma. Then again, 585 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he deserves the shot right now. I'm 586 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: just saying it's a bad look. I feel like for 587 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: a champion sitting champion undisputed to sit there and go, yeah, 588 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fight for a couple more years, and you know, 589 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: I'll be around it to fight contenders, but I'm not 590 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: gonna fight that guy. I'm not gonna fight him. The 591 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: most hyped, potential best of the younger generation heavyweight boxers 592 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: that at that point will be, in my opinion, and 593 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: I think many others at world level, I won't fight him. 594 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: Everybody else but him that It just rubbed me the 595 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 1: wrong way seeing this today from Alexander Uzak, and I 596 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: don't I don't know if he's joking. I don't know 597 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: if maybe this is out of context, but I didn't 598 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: see anywhere where he said I won't fight him right now. 599 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: I didn't see anywhere where he said, you know, let 600 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: the guy win some fights and then we'll see. He 601 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 1: just flat out said I'm not going to fight him, 602 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: and I don't understand that. I think that is a 603 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: misstep for Usik. If he got to the point where 604 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: Atalma was at world title contention and he was forty 605 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: one and decided not to fight him, then again, I 606 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: would have some grace for that, because you know what, 607 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: I'm forty one years old. Body's not there. This guy 608 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 1: is a younger, faster, and more explosive guy than me 609 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: right now, and it doesn't it doesn't make any sense 610 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: for me to go in there and just risk my legacy. 611 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 1: That makes sense, but to do it right now while 612 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: you're still willing to take fight and defend your heavyweight championship, 613 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: essentially just calling your shot to be like, I won't 614 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: be ready when he's ready. Maybe there's some honesty in that, 615 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: but it just I don't know. It leaves a sour 616 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: to my mouth that it makes me feel like that's 617 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: the one fight he's not confident in and the one 618 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: fight that he'll avoid. And I never thought I would 619 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: say Usik would avoid fighting someone genuinely, And I'm saying 620 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: it now because he's saying we're not even at the 621 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: point where you can call it ducking because I don't 622 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: think Moses Talma is ready for a heavyweight title fight. 623 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 2: He hasn't earned that right yet. But I don't know. 624 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 2: This just didn't feel right. 625 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: It felt like Usik again was just shutting down a 626 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: potential massive fight or a potential huge, huge opportunity, or 627 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: just the sake of doing it. And again, all it 628 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 1: tells me is that he wants no part of Moses. 629 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 2: To Talma, I say, he's scared. 630 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 1: I'm just saying he sees what's coming on the horizon, 631 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: and this young, speedy, technical, quick, powerful heavyweight is the 632 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: one guy he wants no part of. Is the one guy. 633 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: Maybe in the back of his mind he goes, Yeah, 634 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: that guy can beat me, not only right now potentially, 635 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: but definitely in a couple of years. 636 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 2: Take that for how you will. 637 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: But I'm just I'm looking at this and going, man, 638 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: never thought I'd say Alexander Usik would avoid somebody purposely 639 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: and do it two years ahead. He's earned the right 640 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: to fight the guys he wants to fight. But I 641 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: just I thought this was super super lame. But hey, 642 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong, you guys let me know in the comments. 643 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: People on Twitter have already told me I'm crazy for 644 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: this take. But does this not rub anybody else. 645 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 2: The wrong way? 646 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: Usick while on top of the mountain, looking down and going, Okay, 647 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: I'll fight that Guy'll fight that guy. Hey, that guy 648 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,920 Speaker 1: that's probably better than everyone else. I don't want any 649 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: part of him. No shot doesn't matter if it's right 650 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 1: now or two years from now I'm gonna fight for 651 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: a couple more years. But under no circumstance am I 652 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 1: fighting that guy? 653 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 2: To me? 654 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 1: That sucks and from Alexander Usik. I never thought i'd 655 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: see that. So you guys, let me know what you think. 656 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: What in the world is this statement? Am I taking 657 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: this too out of content? Is there something I'm missing? 658 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: Or is Alexander Usik really not going to fight Moses Atalma? 659 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 1: Is he really I don't want to say frayed or scared, 660 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: but worried about what this young heavyweight will be and 661 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: how he would fare against it. I don't have those answers, 662 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: but Usik apparently does. Is he's flat out saying he 663 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: won't fight Moses Atalma. I think had some mistake, but 664 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out.