1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: For me to be able to get there, and yeah, 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: you know what, we struggle and yeah, there's a lot 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,119 Speaker 1: of people that can say what they want our opinions, 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: and that doesn't matter because for me, I know, I'm 5 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: working my butt off, you know, each and every day 6 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: to be right back there again and help this team win. 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,760 Speaker 2: Here we go, We're back. We're live at Blue Jays 8 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: camp in Dunedin. We have Max Shurs are joining us 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 2: right now, sitting next to aj. All right, let's do this. Max. 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: Great to have you on. Appreciate the time. Thanks for 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: jumping off the show with us for this. And we 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: haven't spoken to you since you signed with the Blue Jays, 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,959 Speaker 2: so I'm surprised that you ended up with Toronto. Take 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: us through how that happened. I was like, okay, I 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: see you Toronto. 16 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, just the way the free agency process works, the 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: way the market works. You know, had some conversations with 18 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 3: teams across the link, across the league, especially on the 19 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 3: East Coast. You know, my family being there in Jupiter, 20 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 3: you know, really kind of wanted to stay on the 21 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: East Coast really helps me see my kids more so. Uh, 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 3: you know, when hav many conversations the way to market 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: Chuck out Toronto became a really good fit for me. 24 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 3: I had some conversations with the front office and wanted 25 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 3: to really know, like, all right, what's the direction of team, 26 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: how you view twenty twenty five And they came back 27 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 3: and said, hey, now we're in an all in position. 28 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: We're going for it. Uh And you know, so that 29 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 3: was kind of music with my ears. And you know 30 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 3: when they went out there, Sigence hand Tander and you know, 31 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: they showed the commitment that they're they're they're serious about 32 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: this year. And so became definitely an option for me. 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: And obviously we got that across the finish line. 34 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 4: Fifth starter because that's I don't care. Is that the verse? 35 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 4: Like in the campus, I. 36 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 3: Don't care where you put me. I go out there, 37 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 3: you give me a start. It doesn't matter where you're 38 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 3: at and within the rotation. So uh, you know, kind 39 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 3: of as a starter of your group, so it doesn't 40 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 3: matter what number you are. 41 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 4: Okay, Because I was saying first ballot Hall of famers 42 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 4: usually don't take over the fifth starters. 43 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't look at any which way like that. 44 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: It's an opportunity to start compete, be a part of 45 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: a championship caliber team. 46 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 4: Okay, that's much much, very very vet answer right there, 47 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: by the way, what is that? What does it? 48 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 5: What does a season look like for you? You've never had 49 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 5: a season where you're like, well, you know, hopefully I 50 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 5: get twenty five starts. But a lot of guys at 51 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 5: your age they're already talking about, well, you know, we'll 52 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 5: sit them down for a few starts. Did you tell 53 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 5: Schneids no chance, Like, give me the ball. I'm gonna 54 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 5: be out there every five days. 55 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 3: The conversation we've bolved around that. Hey, look, the reason 56 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 3: why I didn't I was hurt last year. It was 57 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: really the nerve issue. Was not the back issue. You know, 58 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: I was dealing with stuff that was coming from my 59 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 3: thumb into my tricep, you know, radial nerve stuff. And 60 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 3: that was the reason, you know for the lack of 61 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: starts last year, which is actually a good thing. You know, 62 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 3: the number one concern you have to have about me 63 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: is the back. But that hasn't been the omen you know, 64 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 3: knock on wood. You know, I've been doing very good 65 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: with that. You know that that and and physically feeling 66 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 3: great because of it. Uh, went into the off season 67 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: to try to address that nerve issue uh through uh 68 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 3: you know, my hand all the way up into my shoulder. 69 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 3: But what I needed to do to make sure that 70 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 3: that uh nerve had enough space to work and fire 71 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: and function properly. 72 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 6: And I feel like I've addressed it. 73 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 3: And so as long as that that part is good, 74 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: I should be going out there and making my starts 75 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: start and start out. So if I'm healthy and going 76 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 3: out there, I feel like I can still pitch out 77 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 3: very high level, go out there and compete and do 78 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 3: my thing. 79 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 4: All right, I have to ask, So you signed with 80 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 4: Toronto this year? Are you still getting checks from Washington, 81 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: New York, Texas, Dodgers, Tigers, Diamondbacks? How many people do 82 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 4: you get checks from per year? 83 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: And I'm trying to set the record here of how 84 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: many teams I played. 85 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 4: For, like thirteen organizations. You're getting paid from like thirteen 86 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: organizations at the same time. 87 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 6: I know now we're now we're getting mixing the currencies. 88 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 6: Yeah really, Yeah, my tax guys gonna CBA is gonna 89 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 6: have a nightmare. So yeah, see how many different ways 90 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 6: we can slice this. 91 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 4: It's awesome. It's awesome. So yesterday, your second start of 92 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 4: the spring sere your second start. 93 00:03:54,520 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 6: First batter, Trey had me rolling. Oh man, he. 94 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 4: Laughed in your wind up, which I've never seen. 95 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that just shows you how much history 96 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 3: I have, Uh, you know with Tray and all them 97 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 3: you know we that's how you know how much trash 98 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: talk going on with all those guys on the Phillies. 99 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 6: And I got so many different guys with it. 100 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: Uh So, you know, I thought he was Trey was 101 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: gonna swing for the fences there and try to tee 102 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 3: off on me. Instead he's taken out and he kind 103 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 3: of locked me up that he wasn't swinging, and I 104 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 3: realized what he was doing. He was challenging it. So 105 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 3: that had a good laugh. 106 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 4: You love the A B S. 107 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 6: Uh, that's A. That's A. I mean there's a lot 108 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 6: of talking points. 109 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: Want us right down the middle. 110 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: I mean, uh no, there's there's a lot of talking 111 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 3: points around it. Uh you know in terms of A 112 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 3: B S. But uh, you know that's it's a long conversation. Okay, 113 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: So you I mean, if you want to get into it, 114 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: we can't. 115 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're here for it, yes, because I think I mean, yeah, sure, 116 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 4: first of all, you were six four and now you're 117 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 4: only six two, so just know that because measuring yeah 118 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 4: you're six three or six to one, though we actually 119 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 4: measure your height now because they have to make I 120 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 4: don't know. 121 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's get on the talk all the talking points 122 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 3: here on on A B S. The reason being is that, hey, 123 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: I was on the Competition committee with Daniel Murphy and 124 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: this is like six years ago of working through some 125 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: of these issues and thinking about the game, and you 126 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 3: know where we had and you know when I had 127 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 3: these meetings, you know, with the Union and MLB. You know, 128 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: for me, let's let's go back and say, all right, 129 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 3: when we first instituted replay, you know, we're you know 130 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 3: for us, you know, for me, that was that montal 131 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: Gala Raga play. You know, like, all right, that's an 132 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 3: egregious call. We that's gotta being out, you know, like 133 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: we have the technology now, you know, let's make that 134 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: calling out. 135 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 4: Are you on that team? 136 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 6: Yeah? I was on that team, so sawid Yeah. 137 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: And so we've now as an industry, we've gotten that 138 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 3: call right at first base, you know, we get the 139 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: call right one hundred you know, for lack of better 140 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,799 Speaker 3: terms here, but one hundred percent of time, we're getting 141 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: that call right. And I think as a game, we 142 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 3: like that that calls right one hundred percent of the time. Now, 143 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: what's the unattended consequence of having replaying the game? Now 144 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: when you slide in the second you can be safe 145 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 3: by a mile and your cleat comes off by just 146 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: an inch, and all of a sudden, now you're out. 147 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 4: So when we were print. 148 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 3: In replay, you know, we were thinking about these egregious calls, 149 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: but all of a sudden we had this unintended consequence 150 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 3: of that was. 151 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 4: What it wasn't meant for rights, right, it was not 152 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 4: The players were like the guys clearly say, but yeah, 153 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: his momentum takes them, all of his cleat comes. So 154 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: that's kind of what you're saying, is that it wasn't 155 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 4: what it was meant to do. 156 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't meant to be for that specific play. 157 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 3: We weren't trying to take the neighborhood play out of 158 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 3: the game. It just that was an unintended consequence of 159 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 3: now bringing replay into the game. The other thing, you 160 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 3: know that the umpires, you know, when we think about, uh, 161 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: this was five years ago, is like, hey, gambling's coming 162 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: more into the game, and who's the number one person 163 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: that can affect the game in terms of gambling was 164 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 3: the umpire. And if the umpire is gonna have if 165 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 3: we're gonna have more gambling, hey we might need a 166 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 3: check on the umpires and you might need some type 167 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 3: of replay system to have that. You combine that with 168 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: the fact that, hey, there was a lot of kind 169 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 3: of egregious calls, you know, calls that are way off 170 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 3: the plate. They're getting called the strikes. And being on 171 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 3: that competition committee, you know, we said that, hey, we 172 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: might need a challenge system. 173 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 6: We need to look into this. Uh, you know, as 174 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 6: the game progresses here, you know, up put my hand up. 175 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 3: I suggested that you know, now fast forward five years. Uh, 176 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 3: you know, how has a game Look, you've seen the 177 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 3: undertended consequences of this when you bring in the challenge system. Now, okay, 178 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: that's fine, but we're you know, there's a there's a 179 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: wide range of you know, different ways we can actually 180 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: navigate this. Not saying that technology is bad, but do 181 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 3: we need the electronics? How much of the electronics strike 182 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: zone do we want actually in the gameplay. So there's 183 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: different ways you can you can actually solve this one. 184 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 3: You could sit there and say, all right, the minimum 185 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: way to actually do this is to say, all right, 186 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: just grade the umpires. If you just grade the umpires 187 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: and you try to eliminate the bad umpires, you know, hey, 188 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: get the umpires call on the zone. 189 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 6: They're actually really good about this. Uh. 190 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: You know when you think back to the postseason, last postseason, 191 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: do we think about that bad umpires that. 192 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 6: The strike zone was really an issue? 193 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 4: That I remember? 194 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 6: Right? 195 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: The good umpires are good? So you know what problem 196 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: are we really solving right now? So you know, that's 197 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 3: one one talking point to kind of you know, think 198 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: about when we're talking about this issue. You know, second 199 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 3: way is the thing about it is it is you 200 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: know we have a buffer zone already kind of there 201 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 3: should there be a buffer zone with the challenge system? 202 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 6: Like hey, were you really are the buffer zone still. 203 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: A ball because it used to be like they used 204 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 4: to say, all right, you can kind of get a 205 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 4: ball on each side. 206 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, and so you know, do you want to. 207 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: You know, have just quarter inches you know, with fifty 208 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: to fifty pitches you know going on? Uh, you know, 209 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 3: do you want to have a buffer zone within within 210 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 3: the Challenge system because you bring that all up because 211 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 3: all right, so this is the other talking point we 212 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 3: got I'd like to say, is okay, when you hit 213 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 3: your when you hit your spot, you know, a fifty 214 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 3: to fifty pitch on the edge you hit your spot. 215 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 3: You know, if you hit your spot, you it's not 216 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: fifty to fifty. Sometimes you get that eight out of 217 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 3: ten times. But if you're throwing a pitch on the 218 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: other side, you know, and you're reaching away, it's a 219 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: fifty to fifty call. 220 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: Well you should really only be. 221 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 3: Getting that two out of ten times. And so that's 222 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 3: kind of the human element of the game we're talking about, 223 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: is you want you want to hit your spot. The 224 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 3: electronics strike Zone doesn't view it that way. The only 225 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 3: views it as fifty to fifty and fifty fifty on 226 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 3: on everything. So when you say the human element of 227 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 3: the game, that's what the human element of the game is. 228 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 3: Do we want to get rid of that? We're going 229 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 3: to be the unattended consequences of getting rid of that, 230 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 3: you know, are you gonna is this going to create 231 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,959 Speaker 3: more you know, catchers syst in up middle and we just. 232 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 6: Have more stuff? Guys? Is that better for the game? 233 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 3: Uh, it's something that we need to think about if 234 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 3: if the electronics strike zone is going to be more 235 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: prevalent in a game. So, you know, another solution is 236 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: to say, hey, limit the scope of the replay of 237 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: saying hey it's only two replays in one game, or 238 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: you know some limit you know, maybe three at you know, 239 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,720 Speaker 3: three challenges per game max. So that way you're only 240 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 3: using the challenge in you know, big spots or where 241 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 3: or it's an egregious call, like you're not just using 242 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,559 Speaker 3: it on an O pitch or where you can have 243 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 3: ten challenges within the game. And so you know, when 244 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: you're thinking about when we're seeing this abs you know, 245 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 3: challenges and coming into the game, it's not as. 246 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 6: Versus status quo. 247 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 3: It's all right whether the where the you know, different 248 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,959 Speaker 3: options that we could use it, use the technology for 249 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: to make the game better, you know. And so that's 250 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: that's where, you know, the last thing we really want 251 00:10:34,400 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 3: to have happened here is have the changes in behaviors, 252 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: have undertended consequences. Have the game change because of a 253 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: challenge system. I think, how we want this. We just 254 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 3: want the umpires better. We don't want the game to change. 255 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 3: We don't want you want. We don't want people trying 256 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: to manipulate the electronics strike zone. We just want people. 257 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 3: We want the game to We just want the umpires 258 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 3: to be better. And so there's different ways to achieve that, 259 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: and and there could be an incremental way to bring 260 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: it into the game to make the umpires better. 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You got to 287 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 4: hear your pieces out, so but I do have one 288 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: question when you when you did this in your first start, Yeah, 289 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 4: did Night's call you in and say Max you lost 290 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: all power to ever challenge again? 291 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 6: No? 292 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 3: Actually, uh that was a situation where, uh we we 293 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 3: had talked about getting curveballs down because sometimes you. 294 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 4: You know, you can like nail the front of the zone. 295 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't know exactly where it's at, you know. 296 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: And actually in that moment I saw the Empire kind 297 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 3: of flinch, you know, I was like, oh is it? 298 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 3: And then with Kirk the first time throwing a Kirk 299 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: like all right, where I was actually more curious, like 300 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: where is that actually at? And so it was just 301 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 3: a chance to see that I didn't necessarily know if 302 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 3: it was actually starting then. 303 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 4: It was like this. 304 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 6: I thought it was gonna be close. 305 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: It turned out was off the ground, like you know, 306 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 3: just hey, it's one of those things. I probably wouldn't 307 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 3: have done that if it was in season, but it 308 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: was a Hey, spring train is a chance to look 309 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 3: at it. 310 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 5: Okay, who's going to have the most benefit. I know, 311 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 5: you've only had two starts on the system. Once everybody 312 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 5: gets used to it, who's gonna benefit the most if 313 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 5: this is implemented. 314 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 4: Pictures are hitters? 315 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know. 316 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: I have to see more of that. And really, you know, 317 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 3: you hear from the minor leaguers. You know, I've talked 318 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 3: to minor leaguers and minor league coaches, and you know, 319 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 3: it's not you know, it's not one hundred percent slam dunk. 320 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: You know, like I said, they've kind of advocated some 321 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 3: you know, some of the guys I've talked to have 322 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 3: advocate advocated, Hey, just use the electronics strikes from the 323 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: great umpires. 324 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 6: They see that as the kind of. 325 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 3: The easiest solution that doesn't change behavior, and continue to 326 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 3: have the conversation of how we want you know, electronics 327 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 3: strikes some within the game, but you know that we 328 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: also see the negatives have taken the human element out 329 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 3: of the game. That would be the kind of the 330 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 3: simplest way to move forward with this. Hey, the technology 331 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 3: is good, Keep making these guys, keep making the umpires, 332 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,319 Speaker 3: you know good, make them better, and really just try 333 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: to eliminate the bad umpires. And I think overall that 334 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 3: that's what the humans want, that's what the game, that's 335 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,079 Speaker 3: what all the players, the veterans, everybody wants. 336 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 4: But I remember, I don't think you were around when 337 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: they started what's called questech, So it was before like 338 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 4: THEBS and all that, and that was a big thing. 339 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 4: There was only certain ballparks that had it too, and 340 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 4: the ballparks that had it thought they got treated unfairly 341 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 4: by umpires. So I know every every ballpark has it now, 342 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 4: a rating system. But we've also seen that that hasn't 343 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 4: translated to umpires getting World Series jobs or postseason jobs, 344 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 4: because yeah, I know, the umpires do better in the postseason. 345 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 4: But if you look at the grades of guy umpires 346 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: that were in the playoffs, some of them were rated 347 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 4: not even in the top half half of them, but 348 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 4: yet they still work. The World Series of the lcs' 349 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 4: is so, yes, they have a grading system, but if 350 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 4: it's not working, isn't this a better way to make it? 351 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: Almost more public. I don't want to say public shaming, 352 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: but this is almost like a way to be like, 353 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 4: and this guy stinks he's had more head taps than 354 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 4: any other umpires. 355 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 3: Sure, And I think that's a very fair argument and 356 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: very for a point to bring up and say, hey, 357 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: look the umpires, you guys are great, but let's make 358 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 3: sure we have the best umpires in the postseason, you know, 359 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: when they know we're judging everything based on you know, 360 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: how our seasons are the postseason. Let's make sure the 361 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 3: best umpires are in that situation as well. So I 362 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 3: feel like that's a very fair argument, very for a 363 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: conversation to have. 364 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 4: I mean, the best umpire graded. I just got suspended 365 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 4: by the way for a year for gambling, right, But 366 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: you mentioned gambling, You mentioned umpires. It happened, right, You 367 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 4: saw it happen in the NBA. Or the guy got 368 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 4: got kicked out for got arrested for point shaving. And 369 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: again Pat Hoberg, Hoiberg wasn't gambling, Yeah, just his friend 370 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 4: uses whatever. 371 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 6: I'm not here litigated. 372 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 3: No, No, I know, say hey, look MLB did that 373 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: their homework on this, and you know, if there's an 374 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: entirey violation here, like yeah, you can't have any thing 375 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: going on with the umpires like that would ruin, Like 376 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: the fans would really look down on that. 377 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 4: Agreed. 378 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 5: You said you were on the Competition committee and we 379 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 5: had with Merryfield on here and he constantly talked about 380 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 5: being on the committee and being like, eye roll, did 381 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 5: you feel like you were heard in the sense the 382 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 5: way that players want to be heard on a on 383 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 5: a competition committee, because that's all you guys, that's all 384 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 5: players do is compete. 385 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 3: I think the committee is different than wherever we were, 386 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: say six years ago, when I's like it was just 387 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 3: Daniel Murphy, me and just kind of a group of 388 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 3: different from MLB and we were just kind of talking 389 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 3: through issues. I think it's different now where uh it's owners, 390 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: umpires and select players and a little bit different structure 391 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 3: to it. So I think the Competition Committee, I'm not 392 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: on it, so I can't really comment of what that uh, 393 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: those conversations like. But you know, for me, I can say, hey, look, 394 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: you know I was on this. I was talking about this, 395 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 3: you know five six years ago. Uh, here's where things 396 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 3: were at five six years ago. Yeah, I said look 397 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 3: into this. But as we've looked into this, hey, there's 398 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: some hold on. There's now we gotta be careful of 399 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: how we think about bringing this into the game. Are 400 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: there other solutions here that you know accomplished ninety percent 401 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 3: of what we're looking for and that's good enough? 402 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 4: Okay. We had time fam on last week of Pirates camp. 403 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 4: He's a veteran, he's been He's very outspoken, kind of 404 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 4: like you. He mentioned veteran guys and how hard it 405 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 4: was this offseason. And you look out there and you 406 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: see Rizzo Lancelin with Meryfield, those Akintana like these are 407 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 4: guys that have done a lot of things in this game. 408 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 4: Are healthy? Gibson? Sure, right, guys, you know guys you 409 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 4: played with, guys you played against. They're still out there. 410 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 4: Why because these are these are certified big league guys. 411 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 4: It's not like they had bad years either, right. I 412 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 4: mean they're out there and they can help teams win. 413 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 4: Why are why are they not being signed? 414 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 6: Yeah? 415 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: This is always a tough one because you know, you 416 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: don't have every answer. You can't help every player in 417 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 3: every situation. The only way you can look at this 418 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 3: from the league is to say, hey, all thirty teams competing, 419 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: are they're actually trying to field, you know, highly competitive rosters. 420 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 3: I can't guarantee you can't guarantee anybody a job to 421 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 3: stay in the big ways. You know, there's a finite 422 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 3: years play here. But the only thing you can look 423 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: at from the league standpoint is are all the teams competing? 424 00:17:58,359 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 6: And if they're all. 425 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 3: Competing, then that's that's the best. That's where the free 426 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 3: market works. If you know regencies to work in a 427 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: free market, and that's the best you can do, and 428 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 3: let the chips fall where they met go. 429 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, because I mean he listened. He dug into a 430 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 4: lot of stuff, but he basically said it's harder to stay, 431 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 4: which we all know how hard it is to stay 432 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 4: in the big leagues. He said, that's Vet's tryout for 433 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: a phases like in junior July when they get traded 434 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 4: to a new team, Like you've been traded in the 435 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 4: middle of the year. And he was saying, like that 436 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 4: was my tryout for the next year. He's like, there 437 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,199 Speaker 4: was no freeency. When I got traded, basically that was 438 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: my free agent time, and then I had to go 439 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 4: improve myself again. I mean, it was all stuff that 440 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: we've all kind of talked about as players before. I mean, 441 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 4: because it's getting harder as you get older, as an 442 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 4: older player to find I mean, you didn't sign right 443 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 4: away and you have the track record that nobody has 444 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 4: JV or you know, Justin Erliner was out there for 445 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 4: a long time. I mean, you guys are first ballot 446 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 4: Hall of Fame guys with all the credentials in the world, 447 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,880 Speaker 4: and teams are like But I mean, it's just strange 448 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 4: to me because you think, if I'm running a team, 449 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: you guys, not only do I want you for what 450 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 4: you do on the field, but I want you guys 451 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 4: for what you do off the field. With the young 452 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 4: kids who I have coming up, and they can you 453 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: can sit down with you know, Balen Francis is coming 454 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 4: on next and say, hey, look this is how I pick. 455 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 4: It's just what I look help him get his career 456 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: to the next level. 457 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure, yeah, there is value in that, but uh, 458 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 3: you know, it's a hard stone to throw to say, hey, 459 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: these guys. 460 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 6: Everybody should have jobs. Now, you can't necessarily have that argument. 461 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 3: It's hey, is every team trying to compete to try 462 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: to win at the major level. You know, that's the 463 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 3: only question you can answer. Once you say that answer, yes, 464 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 3: then the free agent market is what it is. 465 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 4: You sound like Scott Boris by the. 466 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 6: Way, Oh really. 467 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: We had him no because we had him on No. 468 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 4: We had him on last week, two weeks ago. We 469 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 4: had him on after all of his main guys sign 470 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 4: And he's kind of saying the same thing. He's like, 471 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,160 Speaker 4: if every team was trying thirty had a thirty, he said, 472 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 4: it would be a much better market for every player. 473 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 4: But he kind of just said, you know, not as 474 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 4: we know. I mean, we don't need to name the 475 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 4: teams that aren't really trying to win. And he said 476 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 4: that that holds the value down because not every team 477 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 4: is bidding on all players. 478 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 3: Right, I mean, you have that conversation within the union. 479 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: I mean it's not just Scott, you know, kind of 480 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 3: you know, everybody talks like that. So you know, that's 481 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, that's what we want, 482 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: you know, from a game, major baseball fans, everybody involved, that's. 483 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 6: What we want. 484 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: Max, I've got one more for you. You're on a 485 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: team with super super talented youngsters like Flatty Junior and 486 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: Boba Schett. You actually went through their experience a long 487 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: time ago, a free agencies in right, the Tigers making 488 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: an offer, You bet on yourself. You end up with 489 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 2: the Nats, great contract, World Series title. It all worked 490 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 2: out great. What advice would you give them? 491 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 3: You know, hey, look right now, you're going through that. 492 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: This is a really tough time you're walk here. It's 493 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: a tough year, knowing nobody else understands these challenges when 494 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: you're in this position and you know it's really a 495 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: tough year. But the only way to get through it 496 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 3: is when you walk through those. Are you here to 497 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: win or not? Are you here for contract? Are you 498 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 3: here just to win for baseball? And if you just 499 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 3: show up and play baseball and you're here to win, 500 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 3: be a good teammate, everything takes care of itself. Don't 501 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 3: worry about anything else. It all just works. Be yourself, 502 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 3: go out there, compete as hard as you can. Business stuff, Yeah, 503 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: you gotta worry about business stuff. 504 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 6: I get it. 505 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 3: Uh, you know you're making decisions around that. But when 506 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 3: you walk through the clubhouse. Just be yourself and go 507 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 3: out there and compete and win. 508 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 4: All right, Last one, You've played with a lot of people. 509 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: You've played with more people than Crats has had uniforms on. Okay, 510 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 4: your favorite teammate. 511 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 6: Oh, I can't get it to one. 512 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 4: I thought for sure you'd say Austin Hedges, because I mean, 513 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 4: you guys used to dump chocolate sauce on it and 514 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 4: all kinds of things. 515 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, in Texas Hedges. Great. 516 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, like it goes back throughout all 517 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,360 Speaker 3: the years, different guys from Arizona, you're you know, through 518 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 3: Texas now of all the different guys I got to 519 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 3: play with it, you know, but there's you know, there's 520 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 3: so many different guys of different characters that I played 521 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 3: with and played against. I really enjoyed. So that's the 522 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 3: best part is that, you know, it's great. You know, 523 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 3: it's great to have actually getting up be a part 524 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 3: of so many different clubhouses because I've gotten to be 525 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 3: exposed to so many different you know, team to so 526 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 3: many different guys. I'm really good to you know, get 527 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 3: on the same page and be friends with so many 528 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 3: different players. 529 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 4: That's funny. That's funny. By the way, I know you've 530 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 4: seen this and you have to go. But the meme 531 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: that runs on Instagram where it's like, oh, they came 532 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 4: to see Randy Johnson and someone pure each other. I mean, 533 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 4: how disappointed were the fans And now they look back 534 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 4: and say, oh, man, I was. 535 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I had a good one. So I saw that 536 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 6: and uh. 537 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 3: I went to Mike Maddox and I said, uh, all right, 538 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: who you got, you know, Randy and I versus Greg 539 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 3: orkushel how you taking And I thought you had the 540 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 3: best answer, and he said, Who's who's a closer? 541 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,159 Speaker 6: I thought that was a good answer. 542 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 4: Yes, agreed, that's good. 543 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 6: Thank you really good. 544 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Max. Appreciate the time and always good 545 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 2: to see you and we'll catch you during the season. 546 00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 6: All right, appreciate it. 547 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 2: We've got Alec Banoa, Jay's starter on FT Alex. Great 548 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 2: to have you on here for the first time actually 549 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: and one of the best interviews in baseball. How you 550 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 2: doing and how's the recovery process going? 551 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 6: Man? Yeah? Man? 552 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: First off, thank you guys for having me, thank you 553 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: for being here, welcome, you know, excited to be on 554 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: the show with you guys, and I'm feeling great man 555 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: Arms arms, feeling amazing. Reas been great, so excited to 556 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: get start getting out there. 557 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 4: What's the day, what's the day We're going to see 558 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: you on the mount? Like against hitters now, I know, 559 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 4: you know, like against other teams, maybe other teams hitters. 560 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I start bullpens. So this is the first week 561 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: of like back to backs, so that's like a pretty 562 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: big deal. And then next week I start. At the 563 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: end of the week, get off the mound, and then 564 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: from there it's kind of feels a little bit more normal, 565 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: you know, like bullpins twice a week, some heavy days, 566 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 1: some night er days, work on the mechanics a little bit, 567 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: and then probably about three months from there sometime probably 568 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: start facing you know, hit or some ibps. 569 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 4: Are you bored? 570 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 7: No. I found ways to keep myself. 571 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 6: Very bit training. 572 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 4: Everyone's running around. I got to catch a bus, I 573 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 4: gotta throw a pen, and you're just kind of like, well, 574 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 4: I don't know what I'm like. 575 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 7: I'm gonna run over here and watch pants. I'm gonna 576 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 7: run over here and. 577 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 4: Do like I get to throw ninety feet. It's a 578 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 4: big day, huge day. 579 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 7: Like today I went up to Chad Green. 580 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: He's been helping me a time through this, and obviously 581 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: he just went through it previously, and I'm like, I'm like, hey, man, 582 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: big week, I got back to back days today. He's like, whoa, 583 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:25,199 Speaker 1: so one of the guys I've been through. I kind 584 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: of understand, but I find ways to stay busy. 585 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 4: All right, that's good. That's good. Apparently you didn't go 586 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 4: to a barber while you We're just. 587 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 6: Letting it flow. 588 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 4: I mean I like it. Yeah. 589 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 1: I think it's been about two years now. Yeah, not 590 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: one trim or anything. So just letting it flow. 591 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 4: Man. Wow, you ever do you ever think about ponytail? 592 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 4: You're gonna go do rag. 593 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 7: I got the pontil It comes out once I get 594 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 7: to the weight room. 595 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 4: Oh you're not. You're not a headband guy. 596 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 7: No, No, not big on the headbands. 597 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 6: Ok. 598 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: Not to like the Brice Harbor headband that keeps it out. 599 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe not yet. The whole hair 600 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: flip and stuff. I'm not that used to it yet. 601 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, all right, Alec I got a question 602 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 4: for you. 603 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 5: We watched you probably to me one of the best 604 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 5: moments in the All Star Game where you were miked up, 605 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 5: that confidence that like swag and everything at what point 606 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 5: did you lose that swag and then gain it back 607 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 5: in the sense of like in everyday life, because you've 608 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 5: been through injuries, you've been you know, you pitch, You 609 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 5: pitch for like an hour and a half once every 610 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 5: five days. So you know, I'm talking about like in 611 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 5: everyday life that like same alec Mino that we saw 612 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 5: in the All Star Game. 613 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 7: Yeah, man, I think definitely. 614 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes like you know, especially at the highest level, 615 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: when you go through kind of some some turmoil out 616 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: on the field, you know, it could be a little 617 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: bit tough, you know, especially you know, dealing with some 618 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: injuries and things like that. And for me, you know, 619 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: it's it's it's been great to kind of go through 620 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: that a little bit and to kind of you know, 621 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: you kind of got to know what kind of person 622 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: you are and kind of just keep that foundation. But 623 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: at the same time, just continue to learn and to 624 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: grow about yourself, which is something that I feel like 625 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: I've been able to do. Sometimes you got to get 626 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: punched in the mouth, you got to get kicked down 627 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 1: to know how to get up. You know, those are 628 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: things that you can't really mimic or practice. Those are 629 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: things that you got to go through to learn. So 630 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: for me, you know, it's been it's been a great journey. 631 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: And for me, you know, being able to have my 632 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: family around me, some really great teammates and just really 633 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: amazing people in my corner that always pushing me and 634 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: supporting me. You know, I kind of feel like it 635 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: allows me to continue to have my swag and my confidence, 636 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: you know, even if we're dealing with some injuries and 637 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: we're kind of going through it a little bit. 638 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 4: You know what happened? Because you were like cratch you said, 639 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 4: you're on top of the world, and then all of 640 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 4: a sudden you're a triple A. Yeah, not long after? 641 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 4: What what like did something change? Because everyone, you know, 642 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 4: we've heard all the things like whatever you want to say, 643 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,439 Speaker 4: what happened? But you tell us because I mean it 644 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: was like from here and then all of a sudden 645 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 4: you're word Syracuse Buffalo Buffalo. 646 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 647 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 1: Well, I think definitely obviously, you know, came off of 648 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: the most innings I've ever thrown before, coming off of 649 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: the year previous to that, the most innings I've ever 650 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: thrown before. And I'm always the kind of guy that's 651 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: gonna take the ball, man. I want to go out 652 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: there and compete. I want to go out there and 653 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 1: fight for my guys. And you know, sometimes like your 654 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: body just isn't able to do it, you know. And 655 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: you know, for me, after twenty two, I dealt with, 656 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: you know, some stuff I feel like injury rises, my shoulder, 657 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: my leg, you know, have some house stuff, and you 658 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: know sometimes like you try and put that in in 659 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: the rear view and like I can I can go 660 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: do this, like you know, I just got in the league, 661 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm up. I'm up here, like okay, 662 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: what what does a matter if I'm at sixty percent? 663 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: What does a matter if I'm at seven percent? I'm 664 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 1: gonna go out there and compete. You know, But when 665 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: you're focused on yourself and you're not focused on how 666 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: to it Mike trout Out, you know, like you're you're 667 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: kind of fighting yourself while fighting him, you know, and 668 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: it's it's it's hard and you know obviously you've played 669 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: and you know, and for me, it was just something 670 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 1: where you know, I kept going through that through that 671 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: year like it's gonna click, it's gonna click, it's gonna click. 672 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna find it. You know, I was a little 673 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,479 Speaker 1: behind in camp, and you know, it just it just 674 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: never clicked for me. And then you know, obviously the 675 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 1: struggles of the day to day, you know, it could 676 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: be like that. And obviously we're a contending team, you know, 677 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: so any other organization probably I would have gone through 678 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: some of those headaches, you know, still at the big 679 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 1: league level, but you know, this teams trying to win 680 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,720 Speaker 1: a World Series every year and there's really no time 681 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: for that. So you know, I feel like everybody kind 682 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: of needs that that come into life moment and you know, 683 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: you kind of got to get punching them out to 684 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: know what you're made of and to know what you're 685 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,239 Speaker 1: to know what you're built like. 686 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 6: So uh, for me, it's about. 687 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of people that don't even 688 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: get to that that height of the mountains, So for 689 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: me to be I would to get there, and yeah, 690 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 1: you know what, we struggle and yeah, there's a lot 691 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: of people that can say what they want our opinions, 692 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: and that doesn't matter because for me, I know, I'm 693 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: working my butt off, you know, each and every day 694 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 1: to be right back there again and help this team win. 695 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 5: You kind of alluded to it, we talk about like, 696 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 5: I hate when guys are like, oh, he was rushed 697 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 5: to the big leagues. Would even better if you've got 698 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 5: that adversity, hit that adversity while you were in the 699 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 5: minor leagues and not in the big leagues. 700 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 7: No, not at all. 701 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 1: That everybody goes through a learning curve when they get 702 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 1: to the big leagues, right, everybody goes through a learning 703 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: curve from single A to double A, from Double A 704 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: to triple A, from triple A to the big league. 705 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: So you know that learning curve. Clearly, I didn't need 706 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 1: it at the minor league level. And you know that's 707 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: why our front office and everybody and where our team 708 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: was in twenty twenty one when I did come up, 709 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, it was this is where I my development, my. 710 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 6: Learning curve was gonna come. 711 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 4: You know. 712 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 7: So for me, there's no there's no regret on that. 713 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,239 Speaker 1: And you know, and I'll never say like, oh, they 714 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: should have had me on and it that's bullshit. You know, 715 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: like I'm going to take the fucking bond. I'm gonna 716 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: go out there, I'm going to compete as hard as 717 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: I can, and you know, whatever the outcome is, the 718 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: outcome is. And I'm still going to do that, you know, 719 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: So really the other outside noise, you know, top of 720 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: the world, bottom of the world, none of that matters 721 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: to me. You know, in hindsight in twenty years, I 722 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: know I'm going to look back and be like, hey, 723 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: you know, there were some ups, there were some downs, 724 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: but you know it was it was a good career. 725 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: And that's that's what I hope to be able to say, 726 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: to be able to do, you know. And and for me, 727 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: it's a it's a part of the story to be 728 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 1: able to help the next generation. 729 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 7: That's something I really. 730 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: Liked, Apples and oranges, And it's really easy, man, There's 731 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: there's really uh not something that you can help that 732 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: next guy that is dealing with something. So for me, 733 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: it's part of my story. It'll be a part of 734 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: how I'm able to help people. And yeah, just continue 735 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: to work my butt off to to be right back 736 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: where we need to be. 737 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: Alec, I'm gonna take us back to the origin of 738 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: that question when they're talking about you at the All 739 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,200 Speaker 2: Star Game being miked up, which was awesome. I'm I'm 740 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: a fan, right, I'm the non player here host on 741 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,959 Speaker 2: the show, so I'm always looking for that access. How 742 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: do you think MLB can know better market players and 743 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: our sport and get the sport, you know, back more 744 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 2: to what it was in the eighties and nineties, just 745 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 2: in terms of popularity, right, and being able to go 746 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: toe to toe with football and basketball and get the 747 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 2: national coverage that it deserves, which is what we do 748 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 2: every day. 749 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, And I think you guys are you know, 750 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: obviously doing a great job, you know. You know, I 751 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: think I think obviously the analytics in the game are great, 752 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: you know, But I think the biggest thing is, uh, 753 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: we were We all started off as kids that with 754 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: a dream, you know, and everybody that's playing in the 755 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: big leagues, I hope is a kid that's living their dream, 756 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: you know. And there's a lot of kids right now 757 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: that are dreaming to be where we're at. And I 758 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: remember myself, you know, as a kid, like man, I'm 759 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: a I'm a romantic about baseball and I used to 760 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: wake up at six seven in the morning and just 761 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: watch Sports Center reruns every thirty minutes, you know, growing 762 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: up until my parents woke up, until there was any 763 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: action in the house. But it was just a lot 764 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: easier to kind of understand which players were really good, 765 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: you know, like you saw Bonds and Sosa and Maguire 766 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: and all these guys hitting fifty sixty homers, you know. 767 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 7: The batting average. 768 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 6: I don't know. 769 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: I feel like it was just a little bit easier 770 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: to understand, you know, for kids. And I think that's 771 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: the big thing, you know, for the marketing stuff. You know, 772 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: it's like we got all these alphabet you know, statistics 773 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: and analytics up there that I don't even understand them 774 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 1: at twenty seven years old, some of them, you know, 775 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,000 Speaker 1: So how are we going to convince a seven year 776 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: old like, hey, no, you know, this is how it's calculated. 777 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: And so I just think kind of like simplifying it 778 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: a little bit. And you know, I feel like the 779 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: league does a great job of trying to show off 780 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: our personalities. 781 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 6: You know. 782 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: That's that's something that I feel like some of the 783 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: other leagues do a really good job of, you know, 784 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: kind of not just pinning us as you know, just 785 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: baseball players baseball pants and a jersey and a hat on, 786 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,720 Speaker 1: you know, but more about our families and who we 787 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: are off the field and the things we like to do. 788 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: So I feel like when when fans are able to 789 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: engage in those behind the scenes. They feel like they're 790 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: kind of going through it with us, and uh, you know, 791 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: learning about who we are, not just the fastball or 792 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: the slider or the home run or the oh he's fast. 793 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 7: And I feel like that really helps grow the game. Right. 794 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 5: Did you see Travis Hunter's comments about show a Tani 795 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 5: whose job is tougher? 796 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 6: Yeah? I did see that. I did see that. 797 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 5: Which do you think is tougher his job, Travis Hunter's 798 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 5: job or show him with Tani's job? 799 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 7: I mean, uh, what he does is pretty remarkable. 800 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: You know, he goes out there and plays both sides 801 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: of the ball and a ton of snaps and you 802 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: know it plays what two hundred snaps the game or whatever. 803 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: I feel like that's pretty tough, uh physically, But at 804 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: the same time, you know, it's it's basically like he's 805 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: playing the same position but on other sides of the ball, 806 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: whereas you know, show his playing two completely different positions, 807 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: two completely different sides of the ball, hitting, pitching. You know, obviously, 808 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: as a baseball player, I have to say what show 809 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: Hay does, it's definitely harder. I think mentally it's harder. 810 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 1: Travis on the physical side might be harder, but you know, 811 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: just the fact that he's you know, rehabing TJ and 812 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: just want an MVP on the offensive side's pretty impressive. 813 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 1: So yeah, I gotta say what he's doing harder. 814 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 4: I'm all in. I'm all in. You know. It wasn't 815 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 4: hard though. Crouch and Scott Austin my son. He plays. 816 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 4: He's a senior high school. They recently played South Date 817 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 4: and whooped their ass nine to three, so he. 818 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,319 Speaker 2: Went to so they miss that's why. 819 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:41,919 Speaker 7: They got one ring. 820 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 6: They got one ring. 821 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:43,399 Speaker 7: I was on that team. 822 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 4: Oh there you got I got one ring. 823 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: Exactly. Well, Alec, this was awesome to have you on here. 824 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,399 Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll catch again during the season, and good luck 825 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 2: with the rehab as you keep going there. Man, We're 826 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 2: excited to see you back. 827 00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, man, thank you guys. I appreciate it. Two