1 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody to another episode of fish Bites. Of course, 2 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: this is Fish Stripes podcast produced by esp Nation, and 3 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: my name is Danny Martinez. Always love being with you guys. 4 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: We have a lot to talk about today. We have 5 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about today because quite frankly, the 6 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: Marlins gave us a lot to discuss. Obviously, we're going 7 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: to start off with our brief recap roles. Are going 8 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: to take a look at some news, some which was shocking, 9 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: some which was not as surprising as some may think. 10 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Whether Chip Hours being fired, whether it's Lewis Brinson being demoted. 11 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: We'll make sure to hit and I'll give you my 12 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: thoughts on both of those. Move was gonna look at 13 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: two dialogue questions that were sent my way, the first 14 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: being my thoughts on the on the shifting that's taking place. 15 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: The Marlins have been shifting defensively a lot this year. 16 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: What do I think about that, whether it's working or not. 17 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: And then we're gonna finish up with a question that 18 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: was just sent my way today, but it's relevant. You know, 19 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: there's this theory, or not even a theory, there's this 20 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: there's this flavor of panic that's happening right now in 21 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: this fan base, and it's not just about this season. 22 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: It's about the plan, and it's about the future. And 23 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to take a look at some of the 24 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: merit behind the fans panicking over this rebuild and also 25 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: comparing some other year to rebuild and seeing if maybe 26 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: this panic is a little bit premature. So we're gonna 27 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna see, and we're gonna wrap up with that conversation. 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: Because if you log into Twitter right now and you 29 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: look at some fans, man, it's not pretty. And I 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: get it that right now. The on field is also 31 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 1: not pretty, but I would expect most of us to 32 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: have a concept of what year two is going to 33 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: look like. And it's not excusing the play, but we're 34 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: gonna see what other year twos have also looked like 35 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: around the league, and whether those fans have panicked at 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: that time, look back and still agree with their original 37 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: assessment of what was happening. Nonetheless, we're gonna dive right in. 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna start with the recap of the week, which 39 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: is actually going to be pretty dynamic because as I'm 40 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: recording this, the Marlins are still playing. Brian Anderson just 41 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: now actually tied the game up in the eighth inning 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: with an RBI single over the left field, So we'll 43 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: see how that game ends up. Maybe it'll go into 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: extra as well. We're recording, but we do know what 45 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: they have done previously. They have split the first series 46 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: of this week with the Indians, meaning that that season 47 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: series where they had two at home and two away, 48 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: was split at two and two. They lost the first 49 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 1: two of this weekend series to the Braves, and quite frankly, 50 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: the Braves are who we think they are and the 51 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: Marlins offense is who we think they are as well. 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: We'll see if they can salvage one game here on Sunday. 53 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: The upcoming week actually is rather interesting. They have a 54 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: four game series at Wrigley against the Cubs. Of course, 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: it's always fun going to Wriggley, it's always fun seeing 56 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: it on TV. We have a nice afternoon game as well, 57 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: which is something that if you ever go to Chicago, 58 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: go to an early afternoon game at Wrigleyville. Then they're 59 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: going to finish that week with a weekend series at 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: the Mets. It's always interesting playing the Mets as well. 61 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: They're somewhat of an interesting case They're a team that 62 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 1: earlier this year, not earlier this year, over the offseason, 63 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 1: they could have chosen to rebuild. Some individuals on Mets 64 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: Twitter and even some of their own media were considering 65 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: and putting that out as a theory. You know, maybe 66 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: instead of going for it. This was before all the 67 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: trades were made. We should rebuild and take the course 68 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: that other successful rebuilding teams have taken. They did not. 69 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: They obviously chose the antithesis of the Marlins. They went 70 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: and they got a Robinson Cano. They gave up top 71 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: prospects to get him in and win Diaz. It'll be 72 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: interesting to see how the two trajectories of these organizations 73 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: go forward as they each chose their path within one 74 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: year of each other, choosing very different paths. Our trending 75 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: pitcher and position player of the Week is you know, 76 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: not a lazy response here, but it's the truth. I'm 77 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: just gonna need you to copy and paste and go 78 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: ahead and replay what you heard last week. I won't 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: even waste too much time on it because there's too 80 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: much dialogue to discuss. But listen, Caleb Smith is the 81 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: guy again and Hode Afroro just two for three day 82 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: yesterday's he's again the choice. You know, this is unfortunately 83 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: something that will likely happen. It will likely happen that, 84 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: especially on the offensive side, we're going to be recycling 85 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: these names quite often. And since last week we went 86 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: in depth on some of the red flags with Oddfoto's 87 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: game and some of the things protecting against him. I 88 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: won't bore you with that same type of information again. 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: I'll just say go listen to last week and you're 90 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: gonna get the same type of info. Caleb Smith again 91 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: was solid again using that change up like we had discussed, 92 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: to get pictures out or to get hitters out, and 93 00:04:55,920 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: to induce weak content contact. So really nothing to add. 94 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Just go ahead and listen to last week's and you're 95 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: going to get a good concept of who this pitcher 96 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: and position player of the week would be, which means 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: that we have a lot of time to discuss the 98 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: dialogue segment for this week, starting off with the news, 99 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: where I will assuredly promise you that my first reaction 100 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: was utter shock. I was shocked that Chip Bauers was 101 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: let go by the Marlins and by this organization. And 102 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 1: as I'm recording now, I still don't quite frankly understand it, 103 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: and I don't believe it, and I don't think that 104 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that we're ever going to get an 105 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: answer with that. You know, we got a very executive, 106 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: respectful answer. You know, everyone on this organization has to 107 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: be on the same path. The performance wasn't what we expected. 108 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 1: We expect a lot from our executives, and I understand 109 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: all of that, but I don't think that the genuine 110 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: sincerity for the reason of this termination is there. And 111 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna use a lot of hindsight here. We're also 112 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: going to use a lot of and I'll be the 113 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: first to say, we don't have all of the context 114 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: and we don't have all of the information. So for 115 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: me to pretend that I do it would be false, 116 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: It would be a fallacy. I don't know who actually 117 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: was responsible for the rebranding and the beautiful upgrades in 118 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: the stadium. Was it Adam Jones, who has now been 119 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: promoted to chief revenue Officer per Craig Mish. Really, this 120 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: entire segment is off of the reporting done by Craig Mish. 121 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: Is it Caroline O'Connor, which is now the chief operating 122 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: officer The Coo or was it Chip Bowers? And now 123 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: we're simply saying that it was Adam Jones and others 124 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: because we've let go of Chip Bowers. I don't know. 125 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm dumbfounded, and I will not pretend to know that 126 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: I have that information because I don't. Because when I've 127 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: met with Chip Bowers, when I've spoken with Chip Bowers, 128 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: he has been amazing. You know. Now, to try to 129 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: label him as a figurehead rather than someone who was 130 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: active in what was happening is a hard sell. Well, 131 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 1: it's a hard cell for me, and it's a hard 132 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: cell for the fan base. And when you don't have 133 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: all of the information, when you don't know if he 134 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: was actually just a figurehead and all of these plans 135 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: had started before he came along, or whether he was 136 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: the person that most of us perceived to be as 137 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: the spearhead, the control point, the command officer basically of 138 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: all of this. It looks, and forgive me for this, 139 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: it looks like the first time that this organization, in 140 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: this new ownership, has done a very Lauria esque move. 141 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 1: There's a lot of question marks here, and I'm just 142 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: being honest and blunt. The one thing that this organization. 143 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: For as hard as a lot of media members had 144 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: tried to paint it as a circus with the rebuild 145 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: and everything, it really wasn't a circus. Was the Laurier years, 146 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: was the Samson years, was years before, But this was 147 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: the first time where it tasted like a circus. Move 148 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: where you take this guy who who is very well respected, 149 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: who seems to be the figurehead, but not just a figurehead. 150 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: His hands are in what's happening successful rebranding. Retail of 151 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: the rebranding is really well received and high above expectations. 152 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: The store is always sold out because people are buying 153 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: the new logo. The success on his every interview was 154 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: Chip Bauers talking about the rebuilds and we're gonna build 155 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: this from the bottom up, and the upgrades are gonna 156 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: be fantastic. And then you see the fans loving the upgrades. 157 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: We have loved what they've done with the stadium. If 158 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: you ask a fan what do you think about the 159 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 1: business side of this versus the baseball side of this, 160 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: you know that a one hundred out of one hundred, 161 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: I gotta say the business side has been fantastic. That 162 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: might not be the same thing with the baseball operation side, 163 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:50,199 Speaker 1: and then the man who is from a fans perspective, 164 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: the top boss on the business side, is now terminated. Now, 165 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: to be fair to the Marlins, Stustan Berry from the 166 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: Sun Sentinel wrote a great piece well before anyone knew 167 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: that Chip Bowers was fired, I believe in over a 168 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: month ago, if not more. How about how Adam Jones again, 169 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 1: now the chief revenue officer, was actually the person that 170 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: we should be paying attention to when it comes to 171 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: the rebranding, when it comes to the stadium upgrades. This 172 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: was written well before anyone would have even thought that 173 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: Chip Bowers would be gone, So there might be truth 174 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: to it. Right If that piece had not been written, 175 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 1: then we could say, oh wow, how coincidental that now 176 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: that Bowers is gone, he actually didn't have his hand 177 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: in all this stuff. He was just a figurehead. I 178 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe that piece makes it a little bit 179 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: more palatable the move, But by no stretch am I 180 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: saying that I was expecting this, or that anyone was 181 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: expecting this. Now. Of course, there's also optics involved here, 182 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: because when that's a move that you do, everyone's going 183 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: to say, well, how do you expect Chip Bowers to 184 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: bring up revenue and attendance with the on the field product. 185 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 1: How do you expect Chip Bowers to go get naming 186 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: rights and a TV deal with the on field product. 187 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: It's a very easy you're setting yourself up for that 188 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: type of question and lineage of question, because of course 189 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: you can't expect Chip Bowers to do this with the 190 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: on field product the way that it is, Which is 191 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: why if you would have asked me a week ago, 192 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: who's the safest executive other than the ownership group, Powers 193 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: would have been the guy. Powers would have been the 194 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: guy for me. That would have been my response. So 195 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: incredibly surprising, credibly surprising. If Adam Jones really is the 196 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: one who was the spearheader of all of this, Okay, good, 197 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: it's a good promotion. He's the guy that's been doing this, 198 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: go ahead, But it's a hard sell that Bowers didn't 199 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: have his hand in all of this. And yes, to clarify, 200 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: the Marlins did say, this is not about attendance, This 201 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: is not necessarily about revenue. We just not all on 202 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: the same plan. Everyone has to be on the same 203 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: path and plan and whatever the case may be. But nonetheless, 204 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: it is very surprising. So, Chip Bowers, you know, I 205 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: wish you the best. I wish Adam Jones the best, 206 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: and Caroline O'Connor. We want this organization to succeed, There's 207 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. But yes, this was easily for 208 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: me the first move where it felt Lauria esque, like 209 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: there was something else that wasn't being said and that 210 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: transparency wasn't what we needed it to be. Now, I 211 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: could be wrong. I started this off by saying, I 212 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: don't have the information. This is just an opinion, This 213 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,959 Speaker 1: is an outside perspective. But if I have this perspective, 214 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to safely assume that a lot of fans 215 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: and a lot of individuals in the media share it. 216 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: Chip hours fired this week. What was the news that 217 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 1: did not shock us? Well, it was on the baseball side. 218 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: Lewis Brinson was demoted to triple A. Right. I referred 219 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: to this in the last podcast, I said, and actually 220 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: Fish Stripes put out a great article on it. It's 221 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: not only that Lewis Brinson is failing, it is also 222 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: that the Marlins are failing Lewis Prinson and maybe this 223 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: is the first step towards fixing that. You know, the 224 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: Marlins were failing Louis Prinson on a good amount of things. 225 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: And I know that my personal opinion the one that's 226 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: most controversial for me, and I get attacked every time 227 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: I say this on Twitter, and it's okay. I will 228 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: keep saying it is Mattingly's handling of Brinson. Stop hitting 229 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: him in front of the picture. I don't care if 230 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: he needs to learn how to lay off off speed. 231 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: I don't care if he needs to layoff of swings 232 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: out of the zone. Stop hitting a twenty four and 233 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: a half year old. Well, he's about to be twenty five, 234 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: but still only six months older than the average rookie 235 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: behind or rather in front of the picture. I actually 236 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: much rather you hit him behind the picture, hit him ninth, 237 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: hit the picture eighth, and hit your developmental twenty four 238 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: year old about to turn twenty five year old that 239 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: you got a centerpiece for freaking Christian Yelwich. Hit him 240 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: anywhere except in front of the picture. But that's not 241 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: the only way we failed him developmentally. If he is 242 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: struggling last year, he should have gone down at some point. 243 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: He didn't. They put him out there every day. He 244 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: wanted him to learn. Okay, So be it if he 245 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: starts again this year, it's the same thing. I still 246 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: think we waited too long. I still think that he 247 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 1: should have gone down a little bit earlier before we 248 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: crush this twenty five year old about to be twenty 249 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: five year old developmental trajectory and confidence. But nonetheless, they 250 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: finally did it, so they demoted him to triple A. Actually, 251 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: interestingly enough, his first game he hits an RBI double. 252 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: Great stuff to see. Let him get consistent at bats, 253 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: let him get his rhythm back, let him do it 254 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:46,319 Speaker 1: against what I like to call the two lessers. The 255 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: two lessons is one, it allows him to reset against 256 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: lesser talent, and it allows him to work, refine and 257 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: adjust the mechanics and his swing with lesser pressure. There's 258 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: something about working on your mechanics again ensusure that probably 259 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: isn't as great about working your mechanics and triple A. 260 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: There's something about you being a twenty four year old 261 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: who strikes out, and whether you check Twitter or not, 262 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: or whether there's only five thousand fans or ten thousand fans, 263 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: you get booed, and there's a million tweets about how 264 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: you need to be demoted versus you being in New 265 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 1: Orleans and not a living soul, realizing that you struck 266 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: out two times. Lesser talent, lesser pressure. What you're hoping 267 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: to see in Lewis going down is one his old 268 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: hitting coach just helping him out a little bit, getting 269 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: him back to that rhythm, less movement in the hands, 270 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 1: less have a hitch in his swing. There's i mean 271 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: the approach, of course, the psychological aspect of just being demoted, 272 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: but also again less pressure. You're looking for a lot 273 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: of things, and what you're looking for is for Lewis 274 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: Brinston at age twenty four, to show that he's still 275 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: a part of this future, because that's not what was 276 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: being shown at the major league level. At the major 277 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: league level, you have Brian Anderson, you have HODEYATFURO, you 278 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: have the baby face aces, maybe a few hands or 279 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: arms in the bullpen, and that is it. It used 280 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: to be that Lewis Princeton was part of that equation. 281 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: The hope is that now that he's being sent down, 282 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 1: now that he should get consistent played appearances, he finds 283 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: that rhythm. Again. Listen, this is a young developmental player 284 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: who has dominated every single level that he's gone to 285 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: except the major leagues. Yes, Danny, obviously, yes, that's the 286 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: most important one. I grasp that he's also someone that 287 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: has repeated years, and the years that he's repeated that level, 288 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: he's dominated it. I struggled early on and then dominated it. 289 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: The hope was that that would have happened at the 290 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: major league level this year, but it didn't. So you 291 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: go and you reset with a lesser talent with a 292 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: lesser pressure. But make no mistake, if you're down in TRIPLEA, 293 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: you have to prove that you're also not part of 294 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: the lesser talent because if not, that's another hole to 295 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: be filled. And no, it won't be filled by necessarily 296 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: the Isaac Galloways of the world, but it will be 297 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: filled eventually. Time will eventually run out, which, for what 298 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: it's worth, is why I finally tip my hat that 299 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: the Marlins actually made the move. I wouldn't have blamed them. 300 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: I would have from a baseball perspective, but from an 301 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: optics an aesthetics perspective, would have never blamed them if 302 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: they kept writing Lewis Princeton out the major league level, 303 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 1: because it's a bad look to demote him from the 304 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: baseball side. It's perfect. But man, did you see Twitter 305 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: the day that they demoted him? Oh the guy they 306 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: got for Christian Yelich. The same fan that retweets every 307 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: Christian Yellige home run and lets every Marlins fan know 308 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: about it. That's the same fan that God they loved 309 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: that day. Look at the mistakes. Look at the mistakes, 310 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: Look at the mistakes. He's traded Yelli's for Brinson. I mean, 311 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: you know my opinion. No, No, they didn't. Actually, Princeton 312 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 1: was just the most immediate advanced to one. They treated 313 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: Christian Yelich for Lewis Brinton, Monte Harrison, Johnny Amamodo, on Ysandiaz. 314 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: Monte Harrison's lighting up the world. Go ahead and listen 315 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: to the podcast that we had with him on interviewing 316 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: on earning their stripes. Isan Diaz also doing very well. 317 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: Both of them should be called up at some point 318 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: this year, if not latest Opening Day twenty twenty and 319 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: joining Yamamomo just threw an amazing game today. Sure, we'll 320 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: talk about him tomorrow on earning their stripes. That trade 321 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: will be judged by the collective assessment and performance of 322 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: all of those players. But right now, the only people 323 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: that we can judge it off of is Lowis Brinton 324 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: and Christian Yelich, the MVP who's playing like Mike Trout. 325 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: So of course it looks bad when you demote the centerpiece, 326 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 1: but you know what it had to be done, and 327 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: that's why I tip my cap. At least they did it. 328 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: At least they did it. Let him reset, let him 329 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: get every day at bats instead of treating him like 330 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: a pinch hitter or fourth outfielder. Let him work with 331 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: that with his hitting coach. Let him become the Lewis 332 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: Brinton that many expect him to be. And while the 333 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: certainty of him becoming that is much less today than 334 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: when they traded for him, I would very cautiously warn 335 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 1: you to not put the cap on a twenty four 336 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: about to be twenty five year old developmental player. Right now, 337 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: the clocks kick ticking, the time is leaving quicker than 338 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: we would expect. But Lowis Brinson can still be a 339 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: part of that Brian Anderson Hotelo corps of veterans that 340 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: will bring up the Monte Harris and Is San Diaz Is, 341 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: the Victor Victor Masas, eventually the Jose Devers. Whatever the 342 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: free agents are that they bring up lowis Brinton demoted 343 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: to triple A. We'll see when he gets called back up. 344 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 1: Our third point in our first dialogue question was one 345 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: that I got from the first time I did this podcast. 346 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: Every single week someone has sent something in about this 347 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: absurd amount of shifting that the Marlins are doing with 348 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: their defensive alignment and absurd is your words not mine. 349 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: The Marlins since twenty seventeen have decided that they're going 350 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: to be the most analytically driven defensive defensive team. In 351 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen they first started going into analytics. They started 352 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: like a baby, right, eight point five percent. That's not 353 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: even those I believe those twenty first in Major League 354 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: At that point twenty eighteen, they say, you know what, 355 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: we like this. We're going to try a little bit more. 356 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: We're going to go from crawling to walking twenty two 357 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: point five percent usage of defensive alignment shifting that was 358 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: good for ninth Major League Baseball. Then in twenty nineteen 359 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: they decided that they were going to go from crawling 360 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: to walking to running a marathon. Because they are now 361 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,639 Speaker 1: currently the second most defensive shifting team in the National League, 362 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: fifth in Major League Baseball. Shifting well over forty percent. 363 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's a lot. But here's the thing, 364 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: is it working? Is it working? Because it's too early 365 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: to actually see it with objective numbers. The sample size 366 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: is way too small right now for me to be 367 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: able to give you data and say, listen, guys, it's 368 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: actually it's okay, it's working okay, or for you to 369 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: pull up in the dialogue with me and say, listen, Danny, 370 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 1: it's not working. Look I have the BABIP is much 371 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 1: higher when it's shifted than with traditional defensive alignment. It's 372 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: too early to say that at the moment, but man, 373 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 1: the eye test is a resounding no, isn't it. The 374 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: eye test is a resounding no to the question is 375 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: the defensive shifting working? And it's not a little no 376 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: or a whisper. It is a loud no. From every 377 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 1: tweet that you can see, from every run that drops 378 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: in because we were shifting pull from every ball that 379 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: gets hit right to the traditional shortstop. But oops, no 380 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: one's there. So why does the eye test look like that? Again, 381 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: I don't have any numbers for you yet. I will 382 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: at some point mid season when we have enough at 383 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: that to see what a bibip is stabilize and see 384 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: if it's really better to shift for the Marlins at 385 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: the rate that they're using it or regular defensive alignment. 386 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: I will have that for you. But right now, why 387 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: is the eye test not working? One? And this is 388 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: just pure psychology, because you are cued and prime to 389 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: remember when it doesn't. You don't remember Brian McCann rolling 390 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 1: over on a two to two pitch and hitting it 391 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: to Rojas, who's position perfectly. You don't remember the same 392 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: thing when castro is in deep right or mid right 393 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: and a ball goes right to him and his And now, no, 394 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: psychologically we are we are primed to remember when it 395 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 1: does not work. We're prime to remember the extremes. We've 396 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: become hypersensitive to the shift not working. So the eye 397 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: test tells us no moreover the extreme. And this I mean, look, 398 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: first off, I agree the shifting isn't working right now, 399 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: so I don't think I'm trying to convince the otherwise. 400 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: But the other part of it is the extreme amount 401 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: of time when it works. The significance rather of when 402 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: it works versus when it doesn't work has been awful 403 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: for the Marlins. When it works, it's a lazy ground 404 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: ball with zero outs. The shifting when it doesn't work 405 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 1: is like yesterday when they're pulling. They're doing a pulling 406 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: shift for Brian McCann and I believe it was McCann. 407 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,679 Speaker 1: He hits a little blooper which if there's anyone on 408 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: that side of the base path they catch it without 409 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: any issues. But Brian Anderson has to run one hundred 410 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 1: and fifty feet and doesn't make the grabs. Darlingk Cashow 411 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 1: doesn't make the grab, and I believe either one or 412 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: two runs come in on a little bloop shot. See 413 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: we remember those, And for whatever the reason, it's felt 414 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: like that has been what has been happening with the Marlins. 415 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: The shifting has costed runs after runs after runs, and 416 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: we see that by comparing our starters. So the Baby 417 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: Faced ass and Urina Pip fielding independent pitching measure versus 418 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: their ERA. If you look at someone's tweets and you say, man, 419 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: the baby face aces are playing really well, and someone 420 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: who doesn't have any concept of what pitching measures they 421 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: should use goes and looks at ERA, They're going to say, 422 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Their mid pack? They're lower 423 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: mid pack if anything. But then you go and you 424 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: take a look at the PIP and again PHIP it 425 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: values the pitcher what they can control while assuming that 426 00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: they're controlling the defensive element and the defensive variable for 427 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: average play. Okay, So basically it says, if the defense 428 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: was playing at an average RAF, they weren't all, you know, 429 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: fantastica Denny Hitcheverias out there, or they weren't all Derek 430 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: Dietrix with a negative thirty six defensive run saved. That's 431 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: another conversation we could have if they weren't that, if 432 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: they were just average, what would the era look like. Well, 433 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the baby face dasis and you're in 434 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,439 Speaker 1: you have a much better era. Why because the BA 435 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: b IP is just destroying the Marlins and because you 436 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: don't see that in the era, you see that with fifth. 437 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: So the defensive shifting is is a tough pill to 438 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,440 Speaker 1: swallow right now. But what are what are my opinions 439 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: on it? Well? Number one, I have been yearning for 440 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: the day that the Marlins become quote unquote an intelligent 441 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: baseball team with analytics. I have been wanting that for 442 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: a very very long time, which is why when when 443 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: Jeter came over and when they decided, you know, we 444 00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: are going to start using analytics in the players that 445 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: we target and in our defensive alignment, even though Donnie 446 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: does not use it in the offensive lineup structure. But whatever. 447 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: When they started saying that, it was music to my ears. 448 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: You know, say what you want about analytics and this 449 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: new advanced thought of playing baseball. Typically we see the 450 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 1: more advanced teams, the Rays. The Astros do better, and 451 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: they do better with less. Just look at what the 452 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: Rays are doing. So the Marlins finally start and I am, 453 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, dancing and singing the praises that we're finally 454 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: building this analytics department. And the first year that they 455 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: really heavily use it, oh man, it backfires. And it 456 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: doesn't just backfire a little bit. It backfires seemingly every 457 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: single game and in the most crucial important parts of 458 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: the game. And even though most of us understand that 459 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 1: wins and losses is not what should dictate the success 460 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: of the season, it still hurts and it still sucks 461 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: to see Brian McCann hit a little bloop shot to 462 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: right field Anderson and Castro be way out of position 463 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 1: to get it. And to run score. So I finally 464 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 1: get my wish and it is just it's just a curse. 465 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: So what do I see? Well, I wish that I 466 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: could get give you some beautiful fangraphs, operationalized and objective 467 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: numbers right now. But like I said, sample size is 468 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: too small. But there is something that I see. What 469 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 1: I see is that there is a significant disjoint and 470 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,679 Speaker 1: lack of communication between the fielding alignment and the pitch selection. 471 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: Because see, it's not just good enough to have an 472 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: analytics department and to utilize analytics a lot. What makes 473 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: the Rays and the Astros good is that they're savvy 474 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: with the way that they use it. They know when 475 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 1: to use it, and their pitchers have bought into using it. 476 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: There's no disjointedness or lack of communication between the ASTROS 477 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: staff and the Rays staff and the defensive alignment. But man, 478 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 1: there is with the Marlins. And you know, someone from 479 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: the Marlins could say, oh, well, Danny, you're looking at 480 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: it wrong and we have the numbers to show it, 481 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: and I would welcome that. I'm just giving a simple, 482 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: honest opinion. It looks like there is a level and 483 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: lack of communication that is hurting the Marlins right now 484 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: between the pitching selection of pitching, location of pitches, and 485 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: the analytics side of the defensive alignment. Because see when 486 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: the count is two and two and you're pulling to 487 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: the what you're pulling to that you're shifting to the pool, 488 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: you probably should not hit or you should probably should 489 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: not lay up a nice little change up low and 490 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: the way outside where the pool hitter kid q it 491 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 1: opposite field where there is no one there. That's not 492 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: the way that pitching to the shift works. And it's 493 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: something that we see a lot. We see a lot 494 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 1: of it with joss A Urania. We see a lot 495 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 1: of it with Pablo Lopez too. And that's not to 496 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: say that they're not following, you know, the analytics, or 497 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: that they're doing something wrong. There's just some lack of 498 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: communication there. Go take a look at Pablo Lopez's fip 499 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: versus his ra and you'll laugh. You'll laugh. This kid's 500 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: I mean, the kid is disgusting right now. And if 501 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: you look at his fip. Oh, but if you look 502 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: at that eara, because you start to account for defensive 503 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: ability and shifting, suddenly he looks like a mediocre pitcher. 504 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: Jose Urania has so much movement in his in his 505 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: pitches that it might not even be pitch election. It 506 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: might just be his control. But time and time and 507 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 1: time again, we see the Marlins pitchers pitching against the 508 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: shift that is behind them, and it sounds like I'm 509 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 1: saying the Marlins pitchers like it's their fault. It really 510 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: it might not be. I have no idea. I have 511 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: no idea if the lack of communication and disjointedness is 512 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: coming on the defensive alignment side, on the pitcher's decision 513 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: of where he's pitching, or on Adfooto on what he's 514 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: calling and wallach, I have no idea. I don't know, right. 515 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: That's why we give opinions from outside. And if Adphoto 516 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: one day decides to talk about defensive alignment, you listen 517 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: to him more than you listen to me, because all 518 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: I can see is what I see at the ballpark 519 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: and what I see through the TV. I'm very honest 520 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: about that. But time and time again, the pitch staff 521 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: is pitching against the shift and I don't get it. So, 522 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: you know what, Hopefully we get some answers. Hopefully we 523 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: learn why an outside change up on two and two 524 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 1: is the pitch selection when you're pulling to the left 525 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: hand side, and why that hitter can just q it 526 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: right to the right hand side. Maybe the pitcher just 527 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: mitched missed his location. But man, then they've been missing 528 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: a lot. Maybe the Marlins have just overcompensated for not 529 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: using the shift enough. Hillman comes over and now we 530 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: use it a lot. I don't have an answer for it, 531 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: but I don't blame anyone for being tired of the shift, 532 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: because I mean, I am a little tired of it, 533 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: and I've been wanting this for a long time. Do 534 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: I think that they need to continue shifting and wait 535 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: until the numbers stabilize. Yes, And this is why the 536 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 1: Marlins have nine wins on May the fifth Singo de Mayo. 537 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 1: This year it is not about wins and losses. It's 538 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: about figuring out what works and what doesn't. This year 539 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: is not about wins and losses. It's about figuring out 540 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: what works and what doesn't, which leads us to the 541 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: fourth point. This was something that I had not scheduled, 542 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: but a lot of people, a lot of people on 543 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: Marlin's Twitter and even people that are usually very rational 544 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: and very objective and very even Keel. I don't know 545 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: what it is about this series with the Braves, but 546 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: they have gone over the top into panic mode with 547 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: this roster, with the offensive production, and with the win loss, 548 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: and I get it, there's a lot to be worried about. 549 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: No one is supposed to be overly excited about a 550 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: nine win team on Sinco de Mayo. I understand all 551 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: of that. But what I don't understand is why anyone 552 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: expected it anything totally other different. I mean, we had 553 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: we had the conversation last week, right, I mean we 554 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: discussed it a little bit. What to look for. The 555 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: last thing that we need to be looking for is 556 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: wins and losses in year two of a rebuild, That's 557 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: the last thing we need to look for. Right. We 558 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 1: spoke about who to look for. Brian Anderson, hoody afoo. 559 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: They're doing They're doing great, They're doing solid, the baby 560 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: Face aces, they're doing great, They're doing solid. So then 561 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: why all of a sudden this panic over win loss 562 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 1: and the way that players and and you know, individuals 563 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: that quite frankly might not even be here likely will 564 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: not even be here next year the way that they're performing. 565 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: So then I sent out this tweet. I sent out 566 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: this tweet because the conversation was already taking place, and 567 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: I figured, you know, why not add my two cents 568 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: to it. This is what it says at alright, Miami 569 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: record or rebuilding teams in year two of their rebuild 570 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 1: Astros fifty five wins, Clubs sixty one wins, White Sox 571 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: two wins, Philly sixty three wins, Royal sixty seven wins, 572 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: Brave sixty eight wins, Padres seventy one wins. You'all need 573 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: to get a hold of yourselves and breathe for a second. 574 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: Go look up the two years after these. That was 575 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: my tweet because guys, I mean, I get it. We're 576 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: all we all want more wins. Derek Jeter wants more wins, 577 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, whatever the case is. But really, what's the 578 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: average wins here? Around sixty four? Not even around sixty 579 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: four to sixty three. Of the list that I just 580 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: gave you, those were all the second years of these 581 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: teams rebuilds. One year, two years after that, they were 582 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: all somewhat competitive teams. Most of them were competitive teams. 583 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: Some went on to win the World Series, most of 584 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: them got into the playoffs. We need to relax. If 585 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: this was next year, right and isan Diez and Monte 586 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: Harrison and Victor Victor Mesa and Brinson and all of 587 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: these plays, Alfaro and Anderson were up, and we were 588 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: still nine and whatever we are, then I would understand 589 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: the panic because then these are the people that are 590 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,680 Speaker 1: supposed to be the answers for this, right these. If 591 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: those are the individuals that are up and they're just 592 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: I mean, a historically bad offense, then we start to 593 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: panic because those are supposed to be the answers. But 594 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: my friends who are supposed to be the answers right 595 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: now on the active roster, the two players that are 596 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,760 Speaker 1: actually playing well, the two players that are actually putting 597 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: up above replacement level performance in al Fa Row and 598 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: in Brian Anderson. So the two players that are actually 599 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: supposed to be part of the answer are a part 600 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: of the answer. Thus far, there's no reason to panic 601 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: over nine wins in Sinco de Mayo. Congratulations, we're going 602 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: to get the first pick. We're close to it. The 603 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: same way that the Astros and the Cubs and the 604 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: White Sox and the Phillies and the Royals and the 605 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,920 Speaker 1: Braves and the Padres did the same way that all 606 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: of these rebuilding teams that have then led to success 607 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: were able to do so. Then where is the fear here? 608 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: And I want the answer. I want y'all to give 609 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: me a concrete response. Where is the fear here? Maybe 610 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: we had false expectations. I know I didn't. I had them, 611 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: I believe for Stripes, I said seventy one wins, which, 612 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: looking back now at that list that I just gave 613 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: you would have meant that the Marlins were the best 614 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: of that group in year two. I was wrong. I 615 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: was wrong. I doubt they're gonna get seventy one wins. Now, yes, 616 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,360 Speaker 1: I was wrong. But even if they're not, what is 617 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: the issue here? Because see, if we were destined for 618 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 1: fifty five wins and it was because the baby Face 619 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: Daces were playing awful and because Anderson was awful, and 620 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: because off Row wasn't what we thought he would be, 621 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,799 Speaker 1: then I would say, well, this is bad, but that's 622 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: not what's happening. The players that have no future, most 623 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 1: likely are the ones not playing well. It's almost like 624 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 1: this is year two of a rebuild and it's a 625 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: transitional stage, and none of it, at least when it 626 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: comes to wins and losses, and most of the players 627 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:14,400 Speaker 1: holds much relevance moving forward. Do you think that in 628 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, when you walk into 629 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: Marlins Park and you see a lineup of you know, 630 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't know off the top of Victor, Victor Mesa, 631 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: Brian Anderson, whoever you want to slot in a third 632 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have. You're gonna have hopefully Lewis Brinson back up, 633 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: but if not, don't Worryan Diaz and Monte again, Monte Harrison, 634 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: Brian Anderson right, Jo he Al photo the baby faced 635 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: aces when you walk in, hopefully a free agent addition, 636 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: When you walk into that park, do you care that 637 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: the Marlins won fifty five games last year? I know 638 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't because I would be interested in 639 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: what that developmental plan is. I would be interested in 640 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: seeing Victor Victor Mesa, and seeing Monte Harrison, and seeing 641 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: a San Diaz the following year, maybe seeing a Jose Devers, 642 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: seeing whoever we add in the draft classes, seeing whoever 643 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: they bring in a Jose up Bray you for first base. 644 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: Whatever the case is, this is a rebuild for a reason, 645 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that there was a lot of Astro's Cubs, 646 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: White Sox, Phillies, Royals, Braves, Padres fans that also felt 647 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 1: in year two while there's no light at the end 648 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 1: of the tunnel. But I'm sure that there were also 649 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: some that are still fans today with those teams being competitive, 650 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,759 Speaker 1: that are proud that they didn't panic in year to 651 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: a rebuild. But here's the distinction. No one is saying 652 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 1: that you need to be happy, all right. First off, 653 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm just giving an opinion. I'm not saying anyone has 654 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: to do anything. No one's saying you need to be 655 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: happy with the on field. No one's saying, WHOA, I 656 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,919 Speaker 1: have to go to the ballpark. I get that. It's 657 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: why I said last week that TV ratings are going 658 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: to be important because people go to the ballpark for 659 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: immediate satisfaction. They go to the ballpark for immediate wins 660 00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: and losses. It's very tough to convince some want to 661 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: go to the ballpark for a team that has nine 662 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:10,800 Speaker 1: wins on Synco demile. I understand that. But TV ratings 663 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,000 Speaker 1: being up six percent from last year's is solid because 664 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: it shows that people are still tuning in that somewhat. 665 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: There is a fan base that understands that sixty percent 666 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,479 Speaker 1: of this team is going to be different by next year. 667 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: That the plan was never to win seventy eighty games 668 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: in year two of a rebuild. The plan was to 669 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: develop the players appropriately, and that if the baby faced Aces, 670 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 1: and if Anderson and off Row were struggling right now, 671 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: then we could have concern. But they're not. And not 672 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: only are they not, you look at the minor league 673 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: level and you know individuals, Oh, we don't have much. Really, 674 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,360 Speaker 1: you have the top thirteen, You have a top thirteen 675 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 1: farm system in baseball according to Baseball America, and individuals 676 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 1: like Zach Gallen, Jose Devers head out in Karnacillon, Monte Harris, 677 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: and Isan Diaz. I don't know if now you want 678 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: to include Lewis Brinston down there, but you have played 679 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: that are performing. You have players that are gonna be 680 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:09,280 Speaker 1: immediate answers. When you and I both go to Marlins 681 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 1: Park on opening day twenty twenty and you see a 682 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,360 Speaker 1: lineup with Diaz and Harrison and maybe Maysai if he 683 00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: starts making a little bit more power contact. If not, 684 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: then by Maso we see him July twenty twenty year 685 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,960 Speaker 1: a little bit later. I don't think you're gonna care 686 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: that you went to go see John Birdie on Sinco 687 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: de Mayo. I don't think you're gonna care that the 688 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: wins and losses wasn't what you wanted it to be 689 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: in year two of rebuild. I think we're gonna understand, 690 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: for the most part, why this was a transitioning year, 691 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: why the wins and losses did not matter much. Why 692 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: Brian Anderson Hotel for all the baby face d aces and 693 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: the minor league players and prospects is where our focus 694 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: likely should have been. I don't blame anyone for being angry. 695 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: I don't blame anyone for being frustrated, But panicking in 696 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 1: year two of a rebuild, especially when we have evidence 697 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,960 Speaker 1: after evidence of other rebuilds, is taking the same exact trajectory, 698 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: seems just a little bit premature on my end. If 699 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: we're here again next year and all these prospects are 700 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: up and the babyface aces are up and we're seeing 701 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: no difference in wins and loss hold me accountable. Last 702 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: week I said next year we could start seeing a 703 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,800 Speaker 1: little bit more of competitive play, maybe nearing five hundred 704 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 1: after that the following year maybe nearing a wild card 705 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 1: berth that kind of seventy five to eighty win range 706 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: or eighty one or eighty two, eighty three, and then 707 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two really being the time that we're talking 708 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:50,120 Speaker 1: about an eighty five plus win team. You hold me 709 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,480 Speaker 1: to that, hold me accountable to that. I'm okay with that. 710 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: I'm okay with being held accountable. But let's breathe and 711 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: let's relax a little bit. With the win loss record 712 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 1: of the t twenty nineteen Miami Marlins that have maybe 713 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: two offensive players that will be here when the time comes, 714 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: and the baby Face Daces, especially when all six of 715 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: those if we're including the four baby Face Daces and 716 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: Anderson off Row are playing the part. At the moment, 717 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: It's okay, we'll get there together, all right. I have 718 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: at the moment three individuals that have contacted me seriously 719 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 1: and scheduled about being on the show. We had a 720 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,439 Speaker 1: lot of news this week, so we pushed back one 721 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,759 Speaker 1: individual for the following week. But I want you to 722 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: let me know so that I can add you to 723 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: the list my plan for that, and I think that 724 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 1: I should add a little bit more description here is 725 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,800 Speaker 1: of course, I'm always going to want to know your story, 726 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: how you became a Marlins fan, what has kept you 727 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: a Marlins fan, what you think of the Marlins moving forward. 728 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: We also want to make that recording about your strong suit. 729 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 1: If you are heavy and analytics and you understand analytics, well, 730 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: let me know and we could have a conversation about that. 731 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: If you want to focus on the rebuilds, if you 732 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,400 Speaker 1: want to focus on a particular player, if you want 733 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,080 Speaker 1: to focus on yourself, I'm okay with that. You know. 734 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: Earning their stripes and the interviews are so great because 735 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,879 Speaker 1: we talk about the player not just on the field, 736 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: but off the field. I appreciate that too with fans. 737 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 1: As we start moving it towards getting fans on here, 738 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,920 Speaker 1: I want you to have that kind of understanding. What 739 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: can you offer, what can you talk about? And contact me, 740 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: call me so we can add you to the list. 741 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,120 Speaker 1: As always, if you've liked the podcast, make sure give 742 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: a like, leave a review, seriously, leave a review, good, bad, 743 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: and different, whatever the case is. We want the feedback. 744 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: Make sure to reach out to me both on Twitter 745 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: with Alright Miami, through Fist Stripes, through my email on 746 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 1: fist Stripes, like and subscribe anywhere that podcasts are found, 747 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: and as always appreciate every single one of you that 748 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: logs in and hits play Go Fish