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Speaker 1: Back then it was fifteen. Now, motherfucker's probably make it

423
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: to twenty one, two years old, you know what I'm saying.

424
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: So it's it's it's just a lot of ship that

425
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: comes with it, and you gotta understand where you're going

426
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,400
Speaker 1: and where you're adding in the whole system. That's all

427
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 1: it is, is the system. It's something that the older,

428
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: the older, the generations before our tied started. We just

429
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: took it and took it to a different motherfucking level.

430
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: And now it is what it is. It has no structure,

431
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: and it has no no loyalty. It has no it

432
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: don't have a hold on nothing, none of none of

433
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: the ship that that that motherfucker's just doing the day.

434
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 1: It don't mean ship because they're just doing it. Yeah,

435
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 1: you know what I think, man, And this is one

436
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: thing I noticed was I'm a reason from the Midwether too.

437
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: But I've been out in California since eighty eight. I've

438
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: been here a long time, so I understand the game

439
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 1: thing as far as out here. And one of the

440
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: similarities gonna see between Chicago and then Layers that they

441
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 1: systematically took those maga figures out the neighborhoods. Some of

442
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: them happened to be po boys, but they used the

443
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: guys have boke and all the other stuff that you

444
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 1: on them and the regal charges and stuff on. They

445
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: took the influential cats out the neighbor lives across the country,

446
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: and then that's when the kallos, the madness started had

447
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 1: like they tried to cut their head off. They cut

448
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: their head off. I mean, that's like that. It's the

449
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is like ship, you take away

450
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 1: the motherfucker that's giving you structure. It's just like the

451
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: same situation you got the motherfucker that's giving you structure

452
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,360
Speaker 1: or family member or brother they killed here, what you're

453
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: ready to do that's gonna calm you down or that's

454
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: gonna make you get active. So, like like Games said,

455
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: it's a sort of a backfire because they know the

456
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that they're putting away holds down the structure, got

457
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: the brain to love leadership to calm motherfucker ship. But

458
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: that scares of motherfucker. When they have the smarts and

459
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: the intelligence, you get me, they feel they're ready to

460
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: deal with the knucklehead because the knucklehead gonna suck yourself

461
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: up real quickly. But you don't understand the knuckle heads

462
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,239
Speaker 1: is the ones that's gonna go guerrilla warfare on your

463
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: motherfucking asked, because like they said, we don't really give

464
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: a fuck. We're just gonna go ballistic and go crazy

465
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: and just shoot up everything. But you want to lock

466
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: up and they go, who can control all of that

467
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,920
Speaker 1: and bring structure? That terrifies the motherfucker because look at this,

468
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 1: Look at what this motherfucker can do. Look he got

469
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,440
Speaker 1: all this ship under control, So all he gotta do

470
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: is really if the motherfucker wanted to do is run ship.

471
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 1: He could really funck shut up. So they figured, well,

472
00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 1: ours is pretty much even your mother to the run

473
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: police officer, you got a problem. So it's it's pretty

474
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: much pretty much even there. You know. You know, one

475
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 1: of our first shows we talked about, you know, just

476
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: just surrender. You know that's not so easy to do.

477
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: When the police funk with you. They already got an

478
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: agenda when they approach you. You're a black man, he

479
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: got something, so the odds against you when as soon

480
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: as he walked up to you, his mind is already

481
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: made up opposed to walking up to somebody, a white guard,

482
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: a white guy in the car, and the wars that

483
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,679
Speaker 1: let him have it because the white boys ain't playing

484
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: with him. We sit here, our races are so fucking

485
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: passive and humble when it comes to the police and

486
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: everything else. But when it comes to us, we're ready

487
00:27:54,000 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 1: to destroy. Yeah, but everybody starts rhyme when the police

488
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: killed one of us. You know what I'm saying, Let's

489
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: get a march, was stopped killing each other. You know

490
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Well, we ain't doing none of that

491
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 1: ship because they know they can't stop that ship. They

492
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: can't stop it, but you can stop it. You can

493
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: go to the hood and and get it all the

494
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: hitters and and everybody put bearing that ass. Brothers from

495
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: the penitential, let them know when you're coming this motherfucker.

496
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: Your asses out't come and come to prison for killing

497
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 1: the black man. And this is what the Mesicans did.

498
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: If you come to prison for killing the Mexican, your

499
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: ass can't live in no prison, can't be on no yard.

500
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: And that's what they did out here in California in

501
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 1: the eighties. That's real, that's real, right, there's nowhere to hide,

502
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 1: nowhere to hide in there. So and that's that's one

503
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: of the ways that that that mm hm. The penitentiary

504
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: as a motherfucker. And if you're not ready or bill

505
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: ploy yeah, and you don't even know where they're getting from.

506
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 1: But they died and they had some pink underwear. But

507
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: your hey, first of it's a motherfucker, but it definitely

508
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: can make a man out of you. And it definitely

509
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: showed you know something, mother to go to jail and no, mother,

510
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: just go to jail. No. It teaches you. I'm telling

511
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: you what they do. You got cash that go out

512
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: there and what you know what you can come back

513
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: to their cell and later when we came up and

514
00:29:52,040 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: he whoop your ass. Everybody knows killing you know what

515
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying, first and foremost in there. Motherfucker's all that

516
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: how the head and ship? You think you are gay?

517
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 1: Let's see you was tested. You know you're not getting

518
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: that today. You're not getting that. Bad motherfucker ready to

519
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: come check you because now why they have changed the laws.

520
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: The laws are different from back then attempt the murderer

521
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: getting for the years attempted. I might want to kill

522
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: the motherfucker. You know, they're not giving you what what

523
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: you was getting. You know, the slap on the wrist

524
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: and the eight in the nineties. You're not getting that ship.

525
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: So being an o G man, goddamn, that's that's double

526
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 1: Japany if I if I go fucking just literally and

527
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: this little then get every found I do something to it,

528
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: I'm in prison for the rest of my life. But

529
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: you know everything, you get your time. Man. We just

530
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: gotta figure it out, and figure out and and and

531
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: turn the dump ship into positive ship. It's gonna be

532
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: very hard to do that. We need to have some

533
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: co instructor that would be that that would be hella.

534
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: But because it'd be a gang of niggas, it would

535
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: be a gang of nigga skin to go to motherfucking prison.

536
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: No one that the old JS is in there waiting

537
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: on motherfucker's You know what I'm saying. That would be

538
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: a hell of a structure to get a motherfucker's. You

539
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: come in here for shooting another nigga, then you you

540
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: just wait to see what happens when you get in here,

541
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: because that's where you had it. You feel me too.

542
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: That's why motherfuckers don't want one part of that ship.

543
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: If you can't, they ain't trying to run up. They

544
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: ain't trying to run up and gets un the niggas.

545
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: Man you've been talking about bad with the jellies and

546
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,719
Speaker 1: all that bad. They is not ready to run up

547
00:31:54,760 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: against one of them, not at all. No man, y'all,

548
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: y'all be overlooking the point. The point is you got

549
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 1: some grown ass man out there that all that less,

550
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: I don't have nothing else ain't gonna stand the hood.

551
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: And for him to stand the he gotta have these

552
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: little soldiers. He might be under covered with the bullshit,

553
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 1: but it's somebody just keeping motherfucker's on the grind is

554
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: everybody got somebody in the hood that's on some fucked

555
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: up ship. If Alcol watch the big homie, this motherfucker

556
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: fifty sixty sixty five years old still with the business

557
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: man longevity too, I might be able to make it

558
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: to his age with the business. So all it is, man,

559
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: grown ass man needs to really grow the funk up

560
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: and say that and see the big picture here. We

561
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: ain't doing ship but destroying us. That's all we're doing.

562
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: And I know, I know for a fact I did

563
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: it for a long goddamn time. But and I can't

564
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: be a hypocrite about it. And I know what because

565
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: he's thinking, Nick is just thinking some motherfucker's doing for

566
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: recreational reasons. They ain't got enough to do in the hood.

567
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: You get drunk and you let the liot a take

568
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: your motherfucker somewhere else. And and now, yeah, I didn't

569
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 1: kill the mother because I got drunk, just as simple

570
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: of that. It's just stupid. Ship, Nigga is just stupid.

571
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: We we'd be on some stupid ship and we just

572
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: need to wake the punk up and think, man and

573
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: ship is is out of hand now, he's out of hand.

574
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: So you know, until it happened to you or somebody

575
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: in your family, that's when mother fuckers start to wake up.

576
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: That's a real ship, man, because it's so many similarities, man,

577
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: because one thing is Bigwest period. You know, Chicago Detroit

578
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: took them, you know, y'all man to take two things,

579
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: two different things. You know, to the y'all do everything

580
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: to the and the game almost I don't stuff to places,

581
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's cool. Like but we might have said

582
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 1: on the West side, so the West Side we known

583
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: for getting money. So like that the day this outside

584
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: with your area where the family like ground, my num

585
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: came from down part where they came on like Grandpa

586
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: might work. He by the crib. They got a house.

587
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: We talked about the partners in it. It's long. Well

588
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: you know, my daddy might not have been around and

589
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: mama get the uh, the aide and all that big rick.

590
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 1: We can enter this part off. You got your things on.

591
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: Clicking that you take the motherfucker's off. Dog, you sound

592
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: like you wond the water on the motherfucker's don't want

593
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:58,880
Speaker 1: to hear what you see? Yeah, I mean, you know,

594
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: stay whatever you was all over again because oh, you're

595
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: trying to be trying to be cool to see that,

596
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: but that but that couldn't when we were got them.

597
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: So what we're saying, No, we're from the last as

598
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: of Chicago, right, So the differences we come from money man,

599
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: we love the huckle. We love get money. You know

600
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: back in the day on the South Side. That's why

601
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: all the backs I grated too. And uh that you

602
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: know how money came from down software he came from

603
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: he got the god might to create a piece of property.

604
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: So the next generation win after process. Us we come

605
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: from out the I'm the deal is, Daddy might not

606
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: have been around, you know, he might have been hospital

607
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: mama getting the best that check O the aid check

608
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: and we gotta get some money. But them process we're seeing,

609
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, like them. I stayed around the corner from

610
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 1: me and knew him. We need my godfather. So we're

611
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 1: seeing people like they're all our life is you want

612
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: to get money. So the West Side people, we just

613
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: like to get money all that with that, but we

614
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: all do that that I didn't the other guy have

615
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 1: to do it. But yeah, black Peace Stone, that was Yeah,

616
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, I wanted to ask me

617
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: when they was trying to black Pea Stones down. Yeah,

618
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: black Pea Stone, Agent of Stones still got people, still

619
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: black Peace stones. Yeah. When we saw that on cut

620
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: with one of the movies, he was like, damn the

621
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,760
Speaker 1: stones out down. You know what, men, they's up again.

622
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: We don't see Roy because he was trump con you

623
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So because he took the lid

624
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: out there. All right, let's take a quick commercial break

625
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: and we'll be back. So so so let me ask

626
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: you this, and I keep talking about the similarities between

627
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: Chicago and that late because that's why I love old

628
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: guys there. The guys then we come up. I believe

629
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: that James at correct me if I'm wrong with any point. Yeah, man,

630
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 1: we we we we Like I said, we are nigga

631
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: like myself. I grew up in the hood, so I

632
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: was structured on that ship. That's why I tell people

633
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 1: a lot of my music was sales from the neighborhood

634
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: because I was actually right there living that ship. So

635
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: as a young adolescent, I was victim to a lot

636
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: of that bullshit too. What I'm saying, uh, just being

637
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: a product of my environment. So you know, um, A

638
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: lot of people asked today, you know, do we feel

639
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: responsible for the music we made? And how you know, uh,

640
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: you see the youngsters now days and how they're crazy

641
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: and going wild and whatever, and do we feel responsible

642
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: for what? You know, because a lot of niggas say that, man, ship,

643
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: I was in prison, I listened to you or I did.

644
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: I did plenty of drive bys and listening to your ship,

645
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: you know whatever. So you know, it was just man,

646
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm like I said, me being a product of my environment,

647
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: me being a product of my environment. It was it

648
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: was stuff that I saw and stuff that I witnessed

649
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,320
Speaker 1: that I just felt like I had to share my

650
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: stories with other with other brothers who were caught up

651
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 1: in the situations that I felt I was in. You

652
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: feel me because I always felt like not just sucking competent,

653
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: it's niggas, that's hood everywhere. You feel me, Chicago, down South, Mississippi, Atlanta, Texas.

654
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: You know. So that's what I made music for. I

655
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,960
Speaker 1: made music to try to depict every nigger who was

656
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 1: stuck in that trap. You feel, Okay, I gat I gain't.

657
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: I didn't nigga's that neighborhood theme. Use Man, I just

658
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: started doing that music because I knew what it was about.

659
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: Because when I was making music, I was still hopping

660
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: in the back of ods, cards and ship you feel me.

661
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: So that's why my music resignated with a lot of youngsters.

662
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: As far as how we adults now, like I said,

663
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: we weren't supposed to make it this far man living

664
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: a lifestyle we was living, but we was. We were

665
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: fortunate enough that we were able to start making music

666
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: and we were able to start participating and writing down

667
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: our tails of what we knew and what we experienced.

668
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: Didn't happen to go out there and experience it in

669
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 1: the long run, you know what I'm saying, So that

670
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: kind of benefited in some ways. Yeah, it's the media too,

671
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because you think about it.

672
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: When we was coming up, and it was when we

673
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: was in the nineties, it was nineteen hundred murders up

674
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: in this here. You know what I'm saying. It was

675
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: that and triple what it is now. But back then,

676
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: when the grand and aunt is getting hit, no babies,

677
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: it was if you got hit, we had it come.

678
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Now, all these innercy white

679
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: hands getting hit, man, just like I said, you you know, pussy,

680
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: you're jod He want to stand get your feedback, and

681
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: just he' here on what he's doing. He's just waving

682
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: that mother and he got his glass clod that that's

683
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 1: the thing right there. And we talked about it, when

684
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 1: we talked about it all the time. Man, Like, I'll

685
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 1: be honest with you, man, I got kids, you know,

686
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: like James said, you really don't know you're a man.

687
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: To get you to your forties, that's when you're really

688
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: on top of your ship kind of, you know. And

689
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 1: I think I got kids. I got the son as

690
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: twenty years old. I got the story. So when I

691
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: see these jam cats out here, man getting murdered by people,

692
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: whether it's the police or the hands of our owners,

693
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this, buddy, we kill more of

694
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: our own people than we any other motherfucker's everything else. Yeah,

695
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: we get a lot of gown man, so real it

696
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: sucks me up, man um. As far as the kids

697
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: in Chicago, man, I know kids out here, a lot

698
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: of them give a funk about with no old making

699
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: better say. And we respected our old g We're respecting

700
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 1: our man. And I one thing is is this man,

701
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,800
Speaker 1: I'm tired of mother fucking verching. I'm tired of the

702
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: motherfucking protesting and ship and it's starting to James saying, Man,

703
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,879
Speaker 1: I think we gotta start with all the ship man

704
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: and really start. But we to my own motherfucking neighorhoods

705
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: because I would to tell somebody else to stop doing

706
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: this and doing that. But we still each other, not

707
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: excusing what they're doing at all, not excuse me what

708
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: they're doing at all. But I am more likely to

709
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: lose my life to the hands of another nigga than

710
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: I am a police officer. Hey, hey, it was the

711
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: eight Well, I don't know if you remember, we had

712
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: kicking rounds in Long Beach of Long about ten years

713
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: teen years ago. It was at Long Beach in a

714
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: little club up now. I was with Twist me. He

715
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: was back there blowing and ship kicking it. I was settled, man,

716
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: and the Q raised me. Man. It was my daddy's

717
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 1: so and you knowthing to talk about. I was like, okay,

718
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: that's the law. That that's law right there, and that's

719
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: I presented myself. I ain't gonna that so I any

720
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 1: trip when the shorts week because I was like Damn,

721
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna love MC eight q Q say he I

722
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: skilled the bitch killer cop killer that you know what

723
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That loves it ain't really a solution to

724
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 1: none of this ship. So all this ship is just

725
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: exercise and futility because motherfucker's gonna still keep you what

726
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: they're doing. Nigga's gonna still keep killing each other. Police.

727
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna be flowing through this motherfucker as long as

728
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: niggas walking. Thereat go be out the the whook that

729
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: I asked, So you know, just it's all you can't

730
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 1: do ship but laugh at it man and trying to

731
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: take care of your own you know what I mean,

732
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: Try to just make sure your own people is right.

733
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: Y'all still let me ask you'll let me ask you'

734
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: all this one question because I consider y'all, you know,

735
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: to come from the era of my music. So do

736
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: y'all feel pressured to compete or try to be uh

737
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: what the masses of music are? Or do you feel

738
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: comfortable staying in your own lane and being who to

739
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: speed not mobsters are? I'll tell you like this to me,

740
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: you gotta keep your love for him because the music

741
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: is here. To destroy your love for the gang. You

742
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, He destroy your love for the music.

743
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: You gotta stay at Brest and what's going on, keep

744
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: up with the current slang, and you can still stay

745
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: in your lane, you know what I'm saying. Like with us,

746
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: we gotta label Mob Town Entertainment. So we're bringing up

747
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: a monster of the youngsters, you know what I'm saying.

748
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: So we know we need to in order to get

749
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: our label out that we need to come with some

750
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: stuff ourselves because we got the bug to wrap again anyway,

751
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So yeah, just long you

752
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: stay current, listening to the music, know what's after, catch

753
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: your lane, just get your a little sound, but still

754
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: reminisces a the old They need the lover that hate.

755
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: That's all I say. Man, And and all the old

756
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: geees out there. Man, you're still doing it. Do what

757
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: y'all do because you still got motherfucker's like me to

758
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: go streaming ship and buying. It's a whole bunch of

759
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: niggas like me. There's old niggas just still want to

760
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: hear some good music. You see what I'm saying. That king,

761
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: you know me, it's a fifty year. I love what

762
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: these young niggas do, but I can't d it wrong

763
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,840
Speaker 1: like that that we're just lying right me pulling up

764
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: on somebody listening to some of the ship that these

765
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: niggs be making. You know what I mean, it's just

766
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: don't knocking what they do. But that's my key and

767
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: that's not me. You got so I got a certain

768
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 1: lectament contemporary right now. You see what I'm saying. A

769
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: total temporary rap man. But you know we're here for y'all. Man,

770
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: whatever it deals y'all need from us. Man, y'all need

771
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 1: that new one points or whatever. Man, shoot it over

772
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 1: this way. Dog. Well that's that's one thing I want

773
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: to say to Chicago. Man, we're gonna start. We've been

774
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: getting a lot of people hitting and stup. Now man

775
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: to bring this different cities and stuff. Man, We're gon.

776
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: We're gonna. We're gonna be pulling up in shot time

777
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: before y'all know, because I think ship Chicago brought the

778
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: number two markets. Like you know what I'm saying, Chicago

779
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: is the number two markets. The mortgage with the most

780
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: prime activity is all our top markets. Crases in guy,

781
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: I remember gonna say something about us you know what

782
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 1: I'm saying. But we own y'all man, and we appreciate

783
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: y'all man coming through the day. Man, y'all check out

784
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: the Steed and not marksters. They got some man. Well.

785
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: That concludes another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be

786
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: sure to download the I Heart app and subscribe to

787
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,600
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788
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Speaker 1: Chronicles podcast and Norman Steve James mcdownald, Aran m c a. Tyler.

791
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: Our visual media director is Brian White, and our audio

792
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: editors Taylor Hayes. The Gangster Chronicles is a production of

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