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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast has plenty of arm telling.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by the United States Marine Corps. My name is

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Speaker 1: Dan Hansis. I'm joining in the room filled with heroes,

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Speaker 1: Mark Sassler, Chris Westling, Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan?

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Speaker 1: You know what I was just saying for the show,

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Speaker 1: and I'll repeat it here. We were talking right for

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Speaker 1: the show started kai for Bath back in the league,

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Speaker 1: kicking for the Patriots tonight, um, and we were trying

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Speaker 1: to remember who he's played with over his uh distinguished

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Speaker 1: NFL career, and then West made a comment that and

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Speaker 1: now he kicks for the future division round losing Patriots,

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Speaker 1: which made me reflect on what's been a terrible NFL season,

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Speaker 1: yet another one for me. Almost every year I've worked

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Speaker 1: here has been just lost, embarrassing JET seasons. But what

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Speaker 1: I get out of this season, no matter what, even

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Speaker 1: if the Patriots win another Super Bowl, West off Patriots

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Speaker 1: corner off the hill, and he is on the right

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Speaker 1: side of history now and and for that I'm grateful.

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Speaker 1: As we exit the Thanksgiving season, I don't know about

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Speaker 1: rights out of history. We'll see about that. Right. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it would be great to kind of button up this

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Speaker 1: point by saying and he got his lock right by

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Speaker 1: picking against the Patriots, but we're gonna have to tease

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Speaker 1: that result at the very end of the show, although

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Speaker 1: people will well, I get it whatever. But but it's

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Speaker 1: nice less. I love having you. I'm happy to be

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Speaker 1: of service, dear court. Alright, thanks funny alright, and Mark's

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Speaker 1: Mark's headphones are off. That's that's all right. We have

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Speaker 1: we have your sound drop anyway, so we can we

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Speaker 1: have you covered. If there was ever a football Sunday

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Speaker 1: where you could, I'd have no problem with you just

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Speaker 1: dropping me off stage left. That would be this one. Hey,

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Speaker 1: like the Browns today, his microphone didn't show up. You

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Speaker 1: know it's not inaccurate. Um. Alright, So a lot to

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Speaker 1: get to Week thirteen. Uh and yes, as we said,

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Speaker 1: this is and has now started. Bill Parcels and Bill

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Speaker 1: Belichick taught us. So let's get into games as as

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Speaker 1: now we it's the mad fight begins, uh for playoff

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Speaker 1: position and teams trying to get in the back door

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs. It's a lot of fun this time

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Speaker 1: of year. So why don't we start with uh, perhaps

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Speaker 1: the game of the year and a Super Bowl preview.

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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker for the winner from forty nine yards. Snap

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Speaker 1: is good, kick on away, It is long enough and

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Speaker 1: the kick is good. The time has come off the clock.

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Speaker 1: The Hays in a barn, and the Ravens takedown a

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Speaker 1: forty Niners, and this house is on par that. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens celebrated midfield Justin Tucker its fifteen game winning field goal,

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Speaker 1: and Thanksgiving weekend in Baltimore ends with one more thing

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Speaker 1: to be thankful for. Oh Jerry Sandusky. Oh yeah, the

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Speaker 1: party is raging a kicker club, and we ain't going

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Speaker 1: home until the sun comes up. Justin Tucker, we call

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Speaker 1: him King Leg kicked a tiebreaking for nine yard field

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Speaker 1: goal through the cold and the wind and the rain

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Speaker 1: as time expired, giving the Ravens win over the Niners West.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens had been nuking teams with bombs dropped from

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Speaker 1: above during their epic winning streak. On Sunday, we saw

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Speaker 1: him win in a street fight. I think that this

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Speaker 1: game delivered. It was not some kind of scoring bonanza,

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Speaker 1: but it delivered. With coaches going forward aggressively on fourth

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Speaker 1: down with George Kittle blocking his butt off, with Fred

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Speaker 1: Warner continuing to play like Greg said, as well as

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Speaker 1: any defensive player in the league over the past few weeks.

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Speaker 1: And then Lamar Jackson in a game where he didn't

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Speaker 1: pass much and had nothing really going downfield, his ball

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Speaker 1: other backs. It was a fun game to watch, and

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Speaker 1: I don't think we come out of this saying definitively

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Speaker 1: the Ravens are the best team in football. These were

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Speaker 1: two even teams, and they had the better kicker today,

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Speaker 1: and they controlled the end of the game situation better.

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Speaker 1: You're right, there was very little separating these two teams.

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Speaker 1: I think it's said to the rest of the league,

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Speaker 1: not that we need a reminder, but the Ravens aren't

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Speaker 1: I think the forty Niners did so many things well

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Speaker 1: Ravens football, and that is Lamar Jackson at his best.

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't pretty, but maybe that is his MVP

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Speaker 1: seen Baltimore look vulnerable to any degree, it's because teams

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Speaker 1: in the past, and it's not a week two week thing,

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Speaker 1: have been able to run on them, and that in

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Speaker 1: the in the Niners strength showed up today with ram

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Speaker 1: I'm impressed with the fact that the Niners, because had

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Speaker 1: they had they been wiped out. You have to look

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Speaker 1: this rumbling train of Baltimore. And this was a weather game.

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Speaker 1: We've seen these three weeks in a row with playoff

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Speaker 1: contenders where weather has almost I think clouded what you

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Speaker 1: man they are. When you look back on a Super

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Speaker 1: a game right here, wames like this, It's not always

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Speaker 1: and ho hum. Lamar Jackson runs for a hundred yards

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Speaker 1: and it's just like, you know, you can't just look

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Speaker 1: He's that complete player that we really have rarely seen

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Speaker 1: got to be getting close to a thousand yards now

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Speaker 1: nothing we've ever seen before. He's the first quarterback to

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Speaker 1: And there's still four games to go, and he's got

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Speaker 1: all these records, right, he should break or he could

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Speaker 1: He's I think he's less than sixty yards away from

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Speaker 1: that already. And the US to the running game was quiet.

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Speaker 1: I think were helped out by the receivers making good

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Speaker 1: And when Lamar did drop back to pass, and I

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Speaker 1: it's a tough lost. You cannot afford another mistake. You

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Speaker 1: this this game was so massive, you know, for the

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Speaker 1: if they could have pulled this out somehow, they would

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Speaker 1: have been in much better position. San Francisco managed just

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Speaker 1: circling back to Tucker, I do think he's a Hall

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Speaker 1: witnessing greatness with Tucker and he's only been in league

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Speaker 1: than that. Didn't he have a missed pat a couple

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Speaker 1: during that like two thousand fourteen to two thousand seventeen

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Speaker 1: this about Tucker. He's got a little swag as a kicker.

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Speaker 1: They can go bad, but not him. I feel like,

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Speaker 1: in the spirit of my teammates who have been up

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Speaker 1: here to talk to you guys last few weeks, I

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Speaker 1: should say something like real inspiring, Big Truss and I'll

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Speaker 1: saying that the dude. I think John Horrible and Bill

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Speaker 1: the greatest kicker of all times. Yeah, he's the greatest

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Speaker 1: show point? I do think we can criticize Kyle Shanahan

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Speaker 1: he said he would do it again because the Ravens,

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Speaker 1: morning with additional reporting suggesting that that's how the Titans think. Well,

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Speaker 1: let's get to the bottom. This is that your reporting.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes things that are easily deduced don't need to be reported.

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Speaker 1: We can all reach a sensible conclusion without inside information.

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Speaker 1: And you know, speaking of Marcus Mariota. Not to pile on,

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Speaker 1: but Delaney Walker went to um I R with an

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Speaker 1: ankle injury. This part of the thing that annoyed me

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Speaker 1: about the Tytoons era. As soon as something would happen

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Speaker 1: like this, like well, that's why, that's what. If they

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Speaker 1: just had Delaney Walker, they'd be okay, but you know what,

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Speaker 1: bad luck. No, Look, the Titans can still survive and

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Speaker 1: thrive on offense even if they lose players. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: have to be a perfect situation. Certain quarterbacks, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what it is, seemed to have excuses made for

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00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 1: them left and right until they literally leave the league. Also,

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00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: John H. Smith is better than Delaney Walker this year anyway,

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Speaker 1: So it wasn't a loss, and that was the road

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Speaker 1: to victory presented by the United States Marine Corps, the

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Speaker 1: real heroes. All right, let's move right along. Crows a

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Speaker 1: pass and the pass whose intercepted? And that's Joe Hayden,

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Speaker 1: the former power He's at the forty five, he's at

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Speaker 1: the fifty. He takes a five at the forty five.

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Speaker 1: And you can put this one in their history books.

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Speaker 1: What a footing end for Joe Haydn to a warmer Browns,

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Speaker 1: a former number one Cristians. The ball was intended Rold

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Speaker 1: the Brown's receiver in the middle of the field, and

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Speaker 1: that was lady. And those Steelers played take away and

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Speaker 1: Hi field isn't a frenzy. Bill hill Grove what they

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Speaker 1: called Steelers Radio Network, seated next to mark Up paraphrase,

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Speaker 1: you said something all on the lines, mark Up. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it had to be hated anyway. Hayden's interception Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: the final minutes of the game, deciding to play the

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Speaker 1: Steelers over the Browns at Hines Field. Pittsburgh started the

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Speaker 1: season with three straight losses, will enter the final quarter

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Speaker 1: of the season. In the sixth and final playoff position

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Speaker 1: in the FC. On Sunday, they got some revenge on

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Speaker 1: the Browns. Mark it's it to me. It is a

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Speaker 1: microcosm of what has been wrong with Cleveland, and we'll

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Speaker 1: get off Cleveland quick and get to Pittsburgh, the much

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Speaker 1: more encouraging team here. The Browns got out hot and

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Speaker 1: had a lead, a yardage advantage of a hundred and

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Speaker 1: forty seven to nine, and this was not minutes into

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Speaker 1: the game. They built a time of possession advantage because

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Speaker 1: they were running the ball at will on Pittsburgh and

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Speaker 1: having their way through the air with Jarvis Landry. Seventeen

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Speaker 1: plus minutes to under five for Pittsburgh, and I thought

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Speaker 1: they have figured out how to finally come in and

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Speaker 1: hammer with their talent lesser teams, which on paper the

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Speaker 1: Steelers on offense certainly are. And it is unbelievable to

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Speaker 1: me how out coached and how classed Cleveland was in

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Speaker 1: the second half of this game. Duck Hodges deserves an

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Speaker 1: absolute ton of credit for the chemistry that he built

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Speaker 1: on a touchdown to James Washington. Had big plays all

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Speaker 1: day that changed this game, and they went on to

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Speaker 1: twenty straight unanswered points. Pittsburgh because they were using guys

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Speaker 1: like Jalen Samuel's Out of the Wildcat to keep Duck

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Speaker 1: Hodges out of trouble. At points, the Browns ash rust dried,

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Speaker 1: dried up with some injuries, guys like Benny Snell and

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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield had a killer fumble and at one point

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Speaker 1: you just looked at them for twenty streight minutes they

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Speaker 1: could not move the ball. And Freddie Kitchens, I like

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Speaker 1: the guy. I like the person. I have no issue

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Speaker 1: with the fact that you know it takes a while

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Speaker 1: at as a head coach to learn how to do this.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't happen in two minutes. But Mike Tomlin, for

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Speaker 1: everyone who wants to get on him for the late

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Speaker 1: season losses in Pittsburgh, this was a signature type of

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin win where you just felt Pittsburgh becoming and

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Speaker 1: morphing into the tougher team against the Cleveland team that

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Speaker 1: started to feel all the old ghosts around it. And

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Speaker 1: so it was absolutely appropriate that Joe Hayden, of all people,

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Speaker 1: the X Brown I used to know what that felt like,

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Speaker 1: cap this thing and I Cleveland season is over. I

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Speaker 1: don't really care about the math involved at this point

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Speaker 1: because this is what they do in games. They will

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Speaker 1: find a way to lose two more of these, one

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Speaker 1: of them against the Bengals, I'm telling you right now,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be a really really long night

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Speaker 1: of questioning inside that building whether or not you keep

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Speaker 1: this head coach. They've proven this is in their d

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Speaker 1: n A for two thousand nineteen. The Freddie Kitchens Browns

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00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: and forget Big Ben, Antonio Brown, Love Bell, those guys

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00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 1: are long gone. This this offense was playing without Juju Smith,

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Speaker 1: the number one receiver, James Conner, the number one running back,

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Speaker 1: Marky's pouncing, one of the best centers in the league.

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Speaker 1: And they beat a Browns team that's more talented. And

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Speaker 1: that's been the story of the Brown seams. And I

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00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: mean this is where it goes back. I think where

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Speaker 1: like organizations win. You know, it's unfortunate for Mark and

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Speaker 1: Brown's fan, but organization's ownership, every everything sets up for

518
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: like a win like this where Benny's snell out gains,

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Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, Advance McDonald, Nodell Beckham kind of have the

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Speaker 1: same you know stat line and and the Steelers can

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Speaker 1: somehow recover from all of those injuries. Just seems like,

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Speaker 1: because there is so much talent on this team, and

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett will be back next year. They just need

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Speaker 1: to clean it up a little bit. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I know it's not a big deal, but Jervis, Landry

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Speaker 1: and Beckham leave the locker room without talking to reporters.

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Speaker 1: It's just I don't know it's running that team. I

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Speaker 1: don't know who's running the team, and I don't it doesn't,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't say and maybe that is And this is

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Speaker 1: one of the things we thought before the season. If

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Speaker 1: the possibility that all the personalities won't mix with the

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Speaker 1: right way, maybe with a stronger head coach it works.

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Speaker 1: Maybe these are the type of players that won't respond

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Speaker 1: to a stern head coach either. These are all things

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00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,919
Speaker 1: that need to be worked out in Cleveland. But they

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00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of work to do. I mean, because

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00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: we did say, like, what is this their seventh loss?

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Speaker 1: And I get where your frustrations coming from, Mark, obviously,

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00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: because this is a tough game. Uh, they're not out

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Speaker 1: of the mix. They can get hot, but what have

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Speaker 1: we seen from this year that will that says they

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00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: will Because all the talent in the world doesn't matter

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Speaker 1: if you're an incon they're not a playoff team and

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Speaker 1: they're not going to make the playoffs. Like I, I

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Speaker 1: understand the mathematical side, it's the little things to tack onto.

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Speaker 1: What you just mentioned that safety da Marius Randall is

547
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: not even brought to the game, and no one quite

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00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: knows why. There were some safety issues he may be received.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, some threats or something. Freddy Kitchens is

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Speaker 1: photographed with a fan wearing a you know, Pittsburgh started

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Speaker 1: at T shirt and it was given to him by

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Speaker 1: his daughters on his birthday. So it's like, Okay, let's

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00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: not make a huge deal out of that. But the house, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's NonStop issues and the like you know.

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Speaker 1: I this was the one week and Dan, you were

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00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: feeling it with the Jets, the optimism for the first

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00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: time in years, and I tweeted out some real strong

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Speaker 1: stuff and like I was like, why is my feet well,

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Speaker 1: my feet is blowing up today because I appropriately annoyed

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00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: the Steelers fan base and they seemed to be a

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00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: strong wheeled group and good for them, but it got retweeted,

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Speaker 1: It got retweeted. Midday I found out by old takes

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Speaker 1: exposed because that's what you do if you're a fan.

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Speaker 1: Just it's like a billion oats. It's on Twitter, yes,

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00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: and it's blowing up, and it's like, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: go on Twitter for three weeks and it's you know what,

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Speaker 1: I started it, I'll deal with it. I got respect.

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Speaker 1: I got respect to you, Mark, because I saw it's

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Speaker 1: not really in your nature to use that type of bravado.

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Speaker 1: Uh and yet you were confident and you you were

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00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: feeling it. But it did. And I let you know

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00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: this during the game. I I sensed it as I

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00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 1: was driving to work. I was like, oh god, if

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Speaker 1: if Mark doesn't win after those comments, it was like

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00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: dropping a cop prehensive bomb upon the Steelers. It was

576
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: like these fans and Marcus a big enough Twitter five,

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Speaker 1: it's coming back Adam hard and that's gonna that's gonna

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00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: compound and annoying. But to your credit, Mark, I think

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Speaker 1: your spirits have been in a good place. Your spirits

580
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: are better now than when much worse Browns teams lost

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00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: games that didn't matter. This is who they've been. So

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Speaker 1: it's not a surprise if you if you start out

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Speaker 1: hot and then you crumble. That's one thing. This is

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Speaker 1: who they've been alright, one night on the Steelers. They've

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Speaker 1: won six of seven games. Now they are rolling, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know how good their offense is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how how much stain powered Duck Hodges has,

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Speaker 1: but the way they turn this around and the balls

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00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: to go get Minca Fitzpatrick, they've been a top two

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00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: or three defense since that trade. At seven and five,

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Speaker 1: they now look like a very possible playoff team. They're

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Speaker 1: they're gonna host the Bills in two weeks, which will

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00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: be a big one for them, and they have to

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Speaker 1: go to the Ravens. But for the Steelers slipping around

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00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: this was just as big. Obviously a game for the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: and now they have a legitimate shot to go get

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00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: that six seats and they beat those Cults, so they've

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Speaker 1: got tie break direction and us. It's been about four

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00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: or five hours. I tease this earlier in the day,

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Speaker 1: and I had a compliment coming your way, okay, and

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00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: now the time has come for me to deliver that compliment. Okay, Um,

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00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: good jobs scouting Mason Rudolph's failures. Thank you, And now

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00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: this is where you're just feeling it. You're the guy

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Speaker 1: that hits on seventeen at the blackjack table uh and

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Speaker 1: gets twenty one Duck Hodges, who you were calling for,

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Speaker 1: which just felt like it felt almost unfair to Mason Rudolph.

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Speaker 1: He played a really good game once he got warmed up.

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Speaker 1: It's so clear that this guy should have been in

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Speaker 1: before he came into uh steel to the Steelers offense.

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Speaker 1: So my compliment to you, sir, is that you have

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00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: diagnosed this beautifully, and um I love you because of it. Well,

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00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: thank you. That makes up for the other step, that

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Speaker 1: makes up for the other team in this game, which

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Speaker 1: I spent all offseason raving about Odell Beckham and Baker

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00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: Mayfield Lane waste too defenses. So you get some of

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00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: them right and you get some of them wrong. But

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Speaker 1: I do you think Duck Hodges what this team needed

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00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: was a quarterback who won't throw the game away, won't

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Speaker 1: mess up, and has some sense of rhythm and timing

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00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: which was missing. I mostly just like Dan's trend towards

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00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: not wanting to have any genuine human interaction outside the podcast.

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00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: He wants to save it all for on air. Eventually

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00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: will only speak to Dan on the podcast. That's like

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00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: what Warren Babies said to Madonna and her documentary, Now

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00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: you're worried there, dare I get it? I get where

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00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: this is going. You inspired the song. You're so vain

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00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: um I can't even go on. It's like so I'm

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00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: not at all but all right, let's go empty backfield

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Speaker 1: for Allen takes a spell. Allen under some heat, Allen

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Speaker 1: looking looking back, totally give it up. Gardage gets gets

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Speaker 1: the in the Redskin's gonna win it. It was Foster

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00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: who knocked it out as Allan fai up Guardage all

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Speaker 1: the way back to the thirty all one fourteen sucks

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Speaker 1: to go when the words his defense gets the job done.

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00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: Larry Michael, uh, Chris Cooley, sorry with Coolie. Turn it

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Speaker 1: up in my headphones? Cool copy. Where are you going?

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Speaker 1: Kyle Allen? Turn it up? The Panthers quarterback scamper. Someone's

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00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: in peril. The Panthers quarterback scamper twenty three yards behind

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage. That's sound you here, that's sound.

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Speaker 1: Here is tens of thousands of people clicking into the

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Speaker 1: Mark Marin podcast sack scamperd twenty three yards. Thank you

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Speaker 1: to everyone taking drugs. That is staying with US twenty

643
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: three yards behind the line of scrimmage before Chris Odom

644
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: knocked the ball from his hands. It was a profoundly

645
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: unsuccessful fourth and gold try for the Carolina Panthers, and

646
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: it allowed the Redskins to escape with a eighteen win.

647
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: That is two straight wins for the Washington Football Club.

648
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: And listen, we all know it. Dwayne Haskins is developing

649
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: and he's developing photos from his selfie binge. But he's

650
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: also developing as a young rookie and he needs help.

651
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: He I mean, he needs all just like any other

652
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback needs help. And he hasn't been getting much

653
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: of it on a bad Redskins team. Today he did because, uh,

654
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 1: especially from their running game. Adrian Peterson and Darius Guice

655
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: combined for two fifty eight yards three touchdowns. Uh, guys especially,

656
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: and this is something you really wanted to see because

657
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: he's a talented young player that's had injury issues. He

658
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: was running angry in this game, and I mean that

659
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: as a compliment angry runs Kyle Brand style. He had

660
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: runs of thirty eight and sixty yards two touchdowns. Mark,

661
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: You'll you'll like to know that Adrian Peterson moved one

662
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: step closer to Walter Payton on the all time touchdown list.

663
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: He had a score. You tracking this has saved a

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Speaker 1: lot of work for me. I appreciate it. Yes, Uh so,

665
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: the Redskins did a nice job and their offensive line

666
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit for that as well. And

667
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: on the panther side of the ball, you know, they

668
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: blow fourteen nothing lead in this game, and I know

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00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: they kind of cooked their goose because of Joey slides

670
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: misses against the Saints last week. So maybe this game

671
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: didn't have a ton of importance um at five and six,

672
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: But now they're five and seven and they're riding a

673
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: four game losing streak, and they have a losing record

674
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: at home. And the owner came out ten days ago

675
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: and said, I will not stand from idiocrity. And they

676
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: are the very picture of mediocrity in the NFL right now.

677
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: And that's all a long way of saying that in

678
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: a league where they fire, in our league, where they

679
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: fire a quarter of the coaches every January, Ron Rivera

680
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: is cooked. And and I don't even know if it

681
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 1: should be because of his quarterback play. It should be

682
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: because he switched to a three four defense in the

683
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: off season, and they run some hybrid They're not strictly

684
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: one thing or another. But they entered this game thirty

685
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: one and run defense d v o A and got

686
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: worked over today. Their run defense went from decent not

687
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: terrible to one of the worst in the NFL. And

688
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: they've been reasonably healthy all year. Well, they lost Kwan

689
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: Short which was huge, but mine as a like monster

690
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: run defender. He's a pass rusher now and they and

691
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: they losed on Terry po And you watched Darius Skys

692
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: go ten for nine, Peterson go thirteen for the Redskins

693
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 1: run for two forty eight. I mean, that's the type

694
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: of team that Ron Rivera wishes that the Panthers could be.

695
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 1: And you assume in some weeks, of course, Christian McCaffrey,

696
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: uh does run that well. But today he was held

697
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: down fourteen forty four on the ground. And uh, it's

698
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: it's surprising this Bill callahan. We're just gonna run the

699
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: ball fifty times and we don't care what happens. Hey,

700
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 1: it's it's it's gotten them a few wins here. It

701
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: works three out of twelve times. I mean, well, what

702
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: what what was group? What was Callahan? He entered in

703
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: week five? What at oh and four? So you know

704
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: he's he's like three and uh three and five and

705
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: he's doing all right. Coach of the year if Brian

706
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: Flores is in Coach of the Year Candida. See like

707
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: some people are trying to say, why not Bill Callahan

708
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: three and five? I but I get the Ron Rivera

709
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: might be on his way out. You have to make

710
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: sure you're gonna find a better coach because most of

711
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: these guys come in and they don't work. And Ron

712
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 1: Rivera does seem like it's an every other year thing.

713
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,800
Speaker 1: But Ron Rivera will find another job. I don't know

714
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: if that's the reason not to fire. I hear you,

715
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: but it's not every other year though, because the defense

716
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: the last two years has been bad, and that's his defense.

717
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: I think also when you're when you're riding with a

718
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, I think it's easy to forget that Kyle

719
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: Allen is a young quarterback that is like learning on

720
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: the job still that we want him to be productive

721
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,839
Speaker 1: all the way because of the good early looks he gave.

722
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: It's like he's just gonna keep that going. Like the

723
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: growing pains are real. It's similar to we've heard calls

724
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: for John Harball's job, We've heard calls from Mike Tomlin's

725
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: job over the last couple of years. Those teams stayed

726
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: with him. And to me, Ron Rivera is similar type

727
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: of coach to those guys. Nate orchard Uh, the linebacker

728
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: the Redskins who has picked up this week, made two games,

729
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: saving type of defensive plays in this game and he

730
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: had just been signed and some you know Redskins reporter

731
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: asked him about it after then he broke down crying,

732
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: like what it meant for him? And it reminds you,

733
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 1: like in these games that we think are dog games

734
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: and they are you don't need we didn't want to

735
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: watch him or whatever, Like someone's life is changing and

736
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: something like it can mean an awful lot. And it

737
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: was clear to him, who had been out of the

738
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: league as recently as a few days ago, like like

739
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: what that experience meant much less stereous guys who's been

740
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: through total hell. Way to put in respect, Greg, yeah,

741
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: I knew that. I knew that I was gonna get

742
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: on dance right now in a paternal way. You gotta watch,

743
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: you gotta watch a little Nate Orchard interview you. It'll

744
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: break you down there some mental music behind that cold

745
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: heart like yours. Can we do that? So we put

746
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: some cental music, sentimental music line there. We go, alright,

747
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: let you're a copper Sky Island. Let's move on. They're

748
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 1: gonna fake this thing. Spread all over the field. Five

749
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: to the last four the right cut down, unbelievable dead

750
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: hawk hawk fluid. I've never seen that before. Jimmy Seppalo

751
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: and that man's seen a lot, Bob Greasy and Joe Rose.

752
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: The Dolphins radio network called the Miami Special. How about

753
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: that Eagles bill the statue Matt Hack through an underhead

754
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: one yard touchdown pass. That Jason is Matt Hawk. Let's

755
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: not call the man I mean h A A C

756
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: K it is. I am from it on a strong authority.

757
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: That is Matt Hawk. Tomato Tomato okay uh to Sanders.

758
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: A brilliant bit of trickery by the Dolphins thirty one.

759
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: They go on to win over the fading Eagles, who

760
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: kick away a golden opportunity to pull into a tie

761
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: in the brutal NFC East Mark. The Dolphins also got

762
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: great performances out of Ryan Fitzpatrick and DeVante Parker. It's

763
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: their third win in five weeks. This, Yeah, they're just

764
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: not that team that's tanking. It's like they're they have been.

765
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: What you talk about Brian Floores as Coach of the Year,

766
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: and it's it's maybe it's over sold. Who talk about that,

767
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: but tweets about it that he deserves consideration. I even

768
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: saw you some writers saying and that's just like, Okay,

769
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: he's doing a great job. I forget the award business,

770
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: but it's an improbable coaching job by him, right, And

771
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: I think it gives you, well, there's a lot of

772
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: teams that are kind of hanging around in this mediocre

773
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: center world. And I think the one thing Dolphins fans

774
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: have is you know, this can change her, dear. But

775
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: we can look at our coach and say he's aggressive.

776
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: He is not afraid to go up, cook up trick

777
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: plays at a bizarre and he will hit you with

778
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: an on site s kick and he'll do it again

779
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work, because he believes in taking every

780
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 1: possible advantage. And and we look at Pittsburgh, the roster

781
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: that Miami's dealing with and what they produced today four

782
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: hundred plus yards on an Eagles defense that fell apart

783
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: down the stretch. They helped the Phillies defense got them

784
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: up early with an interception that gave Carson Wentz a

785
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 1: short field for a touchdown, and then they stopped them

786
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: inside the fifty yard line for make it tend nothing.

787
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: The Dolphins did not give up at that point. Ten

788
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: nothing didn't matter. They got down twenty eight fourteen. It

789
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: didn't matter. And DeVante Parker's career game had a lot

790
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: to do with the Eagles secondary giving Ryan Fitzpatrick big

791
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 1: open spaces to keep testing them, and the Dolphins cannot

792
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: run the ball and everyone knows it, and they have

793
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 1: nothing in the backfield, and they kept making huge plays

794
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: through the air. And you asked about Carson Wentz. I

795
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: don't know if this is a game where I can

796
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: come away saying that he is a totally changed guy

797
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: because the inner he had one interception, but the mess

798
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: from last week went away that happened in bad weather.

799
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 1: I don't think having him throw the ball forty six

800
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: times is the right way to be using Carson Wentz

801
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: at this point on this team. All Sean Jeffrey made

802
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: a good difference with them today, but they don't have

803
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: the parts for that. He's not the Carson Wentz of

804
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,239
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago with what's around him right now. Well,

805
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: this is troubling for the Eagles that you have a

806
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: good offensive day and you think you've got a rising

807
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 1: defense and you give a thirty seven points to a

808
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: Dolphins team that had their running backs at eight carries

809
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: for ten yards through three quarters. They gave up touchdowns

810
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: on five great possessions the Miami Dolphins did. So the

811
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins did to the Eagles what the Ravens were

812
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: doing on Monday Night to the Rams. The Miami Dolphins

813
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: didn't score their fifth offensive touchdown till Week seven this year,

814
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: and they went up and down the field with Ryan

815
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick and no running game. If nothing else, I think

816
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: it gives you some confidence in their coordinator. Chat O'sha

817
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: who we haven't mentioned his name the whole season. He's

818
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: never called the play in his life in the NFL.

819
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: He's done a great job like focusing on their strength

820
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: and finding a way to put together in NFL offense.

821
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: It's amazing, and it's just isn't it just the sign

822
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: of a mediocre to bad team? Which the Eagles have

823
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: been this season. When when you fix one thing, another

824
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: spring and and and more waters pouring into the ship,

825
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: because it's been the defense that's been keeping him in

826
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: games as his offenses went into a tail spin. The

827
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: offense finally springs back to life and it's the defense

828
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: that kills him. And yeah, they will, they will regret

829
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,840
Speaker 1: this game. And this is not a super Bowl team anyway,

830
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: So it's like it too crazy about them losing this game. Uh,

831
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: there d belief flawed team. But when you have the

832
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: Cowboys licking their wounds and in total crisis and you

833
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: get to watch it on Thanksgiving and then you go

834
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: to Miami and lose, I mean that that is a

835
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: tough film. It has to be the lowest point for

836
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson because when they when they went out of

837
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, that was on a high note

838
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: where you did a lot with a little and Nick

839
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: Foles a quarterback, and this is one where you're questioning

840
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: everything at this point. This game is a great one

841
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: for my The talent is not that different, Chris Wesleyan

842
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: between two NFL teams, because if you look at these

843
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: two rosters, that the talent just should be so overwhelming

844
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: with a halfway competent coaching staff that the Eagles don't

845
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: lose this game like ever he goes are way more

846
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: talented than the Dolphins, That's what I mean, and they

847
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: still didn't. They still don't. That's close enough where somehow

848
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: Miami wins this game. The Dolphins. I saw a stat

849
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Their roster is undrafted. That is amazing.

850
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: Half the roster almost as undrafted, and Brian Flores is

851
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: out here winning games with him. I don't. I just

852
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: don't take it back East Coach of the Year. I

853
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: just don't see how h A A C K is Hawk.

854
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: It's not. I'm not suggesting that if you're just gonna

855
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: look at the way it's spelled, that you I wouldn't

856
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: come to the same conclusion. But it confused me, so

857
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,760
Speaker 1: I went and looked it up. And I've been told

858
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: that it's another option would be hacked. Where do you

859
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 1: find if you're some some patron in that family a

860
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: long time ago said our name, our names are you know,

861
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: Joe and Wendy Hack. Let's change it to hawk, which

862
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: is much cooler. It happened a lot on Ellis Island

863
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: when sure a lot of the immigrants came over. Uh.

864
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: If a name was too hard to pronounce, they would

865
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: just cut off vowels or the beginning of a name.

866
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what maybe we got an Ellis Island situation.

867
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: You were Dan Hansen Stein at one point. It's certainly possible.

868
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: That's certainly possible they trimmed it. It's much cooler give

869
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:55,800
Speaker 1: Matt Hack his name back. I'm just married off the

870
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: research and information that I did before. I think the

871
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: subject here is it's not Dan, it's on Hack. Maybe

872
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: the punter doesn't want to be known as a Hack.

873
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 1: Maybe this is maybe it's all working out for the best.

874
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: Hawk is kind of a majestic bird. Let's move on.

875
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 1: Three receivers. He spins one to the goal line and

876
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 1: a toe tap by Cooper Cup for the touchdown. Touchdown

877
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 1: l A. Jared Goff couldn't have walked it down there

878
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: in place with any better. Cooper Cup brings it in

879
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: to take the lead to nothing. There's a guy that

880
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: will be at Chris Westling's co ed baby shower. Oh yeah,

881
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: his neighbor J B. Long. Oh. The RAMS radio network.

882
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: That was the old days where it's just like alright, honey,

883
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: have fun of the baby shower. I'll come and pick

884
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: up the gifts. But now the man is expected to

885
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: be at the shower. I um as some ornament. I

886
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: will argue have harmy candy against a couple shower. I

887
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,280
Speaker 1: don't know to what effect, but I will argue heavily

888
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: against him. What are we there for? Somewhere in like

889
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: the late nineties, this change that used to be showers

890
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: were just for the women that I've had to go

891
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: to their own show. I do, but now how my

892
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: children have already come and gone at this point in

893
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: terms of the birth arrangements and stuff, I'm not I'm

894
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: going to fight out the I'm gonna fight other battles

895
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: like and I agree with you, but I'll pick a

896
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 1: different battle fight at this point. Jared Goff three for

897
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: four d twenty four yards and two touchdown. Robert Woods

898
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 1: went off seventy two yards receiving. You heard that Cooper

899
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 1: Cup touchdown. The Rams cruise seven over the Cards. Uh, Greg,

900
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: everyone's down on the Rams and how could you not

901
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: be after that Monday night football massacre? Um against the Ravens.

902
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: But they aren't seven and five and they're still on

903
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: the periphery. That's all getting that they're on the periphery.

904
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 1: They have games that matter, you know, coming up against

905
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: San Francisco in Seattle, so they'll get to decide their

906
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: fate because those are the teams ahead of them. They

907
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: showed at least today that they are capable of a

908
00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: game like this that Jared Goff and Robert Woods, Cooks

909
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: and Cup when they're all on the field together. And

910
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: I do think it makes a big difference when all

911
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: three of the receivers are there, are capable of beating

912
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: down a terrible past defense, which is what the Cardinals are.

913
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: But to be clear, like Golf had four eight yards

914
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: with eight fifty left in the third quarter, they basically

915
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: sat sat down, you know, with a quarter to go.

916
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: And he didn't really do anything in the driver too

917
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: after that big barrage. So they were doing everything they wanted.

918
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: It looked like the two thousand, seventeen and eighteen rams

919
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: with a lot of timing throws uh. And Robert Woods,

920
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: especially having just a fantastic game thirteen for one seventy

921
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: two uh and a lot of tough grabs. He he

922
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: is kind of I mean, it's almost cliche to say,

923
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: but He's kind of like the key guy. It's feels

924
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 1: like to them like when they have a big When

925
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: he has a big day, they have a big I know,

926
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 1: the key to that offense. And was just he was

927
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: just there though today girl they didn't need a lot

928
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: from Girley was but it was really the passing game.

929
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:01,920
Speaker 1: Hasn't it felt like those seasons, even when they were

930
00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: against non elite defenses, that the Rams have not been

931
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: able to turn it up the way they have today.

932
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: I mean, now that just to be seen as like

933
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 1: a major turning point if you want to be optimistic

934
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: about this team. They've had a couple of moments offensively,

935
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: including that Monday night loss to the it was at

936
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: Thursday night to the Seahawks where they moved the ball

937
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 1: pretty well. Definitely nothing as consistent as this, uh And

938
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 1: it was, you know, surprising to see it against the

939
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: Cardinals team who had played We had been saying how

940
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 1: great the Cardinals have looked, and they've played all these

941
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 1: great teams down to the wire and given them credit

942
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 1: for that. So if they're gonna get blown, if they're

943
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: the doors are gonna get blown off them at their home,

944
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: you gotta give some credit to the Rams for doing it.

945
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: I'd imagine Sean McVeigh did not want to deal with

946
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: the optics or the narratives coming out of a game

947
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: where he if the score reversed, you get a loss

948
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: to Cliff Kingsbury, the new offensive mind, and so there

949
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: you go. So I don't know, I to me this

950
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: this stop some of the bleeding. Do I trust the

951
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: Rams to pick up where they left off from this week,

952
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: next week or the week after. Plus they're in the NFC.

953
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 1: If they were in the a f C at seven

954
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,959
Speaker 1: and five, you know their rolling because they have games

955
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals, you know, again in week seventeen and

956
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: you're at Dallas, which at this point is a winnable game,

957
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: but they have Seattle in San Francisco and there they

958
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: might have to run the slate just to get into

959
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs in the NFC, and that is that is

960
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: tough for what it's worth. And I know they changed

961
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: their grades after they do some more work. Pro Football

962
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: Focus gave Todd Gurley the highest rushing grade of the

963
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: last four years and one of the highest rushing grades

964
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 1: I've ever seen from a running back. In this game

965
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: he had he had really good runs early. The only

966
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: reason I said that he was a supporting player is

967
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: when I when they got it to thirty four nothing.

968
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: He had sixty yards at that point on about nine

969
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: or ten carries, and they just had thrown the ball

970
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: like crazy. His runs and as we mentioned on the show,

971
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: he's looked a lot better. Andrew Whitworth had a great game,

972
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: shutting down Chandler Jones, all the guys on their defense,

973
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: uh eight in In fact, Kyler Murray six times. And

974
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: it was Murray healthy in this because I know he

975
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: came in with an ankle issue. They hamstring and they

976
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: talked about that. But then a couple of times when

977
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: he did scramble, he he looked okay. He he said

978
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: that wasn't the problem. After the game, he took full

979
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: responsibility and just said that they were flat and he

980
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: made a bunch of I mean, that's what quarterbacks do.

981
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: What you want. It might have been a factor, but

982
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: there was a couple of times he scrambled and looked okay.

983
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: It's just weird watching this team, just seeing David Johnson

984
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: as the occasional like a couple of carries back up

985
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: to Kenyan Drake. But that's just where the Rams ever

986
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: knocked off Seattle next week. All in all back in

987
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:40,320
Speaker 1: on saying anything is possible. But but they have their signature.

988
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 1: Wins are few and far between, and they and they're

989
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: gonna need teams ahead of them, you know, to help him,

990
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: including Seattle. All right, I was just looking at a

991
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,240
Speaker 1: schedule change made for week fifteen. Oh wow, Buffalo ataking

992
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 1: has been moved from one pm Eastern not CBS to

993
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: eight twenty eastern and NCC some Buffalo, Pittsburgh flex primetime

994
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 1: Duck Minnesota Chargers flexed out to four oh five. Good job,

995
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: how to do it, how to be done? And it's

996
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: been done and good. You know that is great for

997
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: the and you know, Bills fans, I hope you listen

998
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: to every show, even when we're not talking about your

999
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 1: team on a recap show. But there you go, there's

1000
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: some love for the people a Buffo. When's the last

1001
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: time they had a Sunday night football game? So now

1002
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 1: you get Thanksgiving showcase, bang right into Al Chris and Michelle.

1003
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: I love. It's not the Vikings fault. They're getting moved out,

1004
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,040
Speaker 1: but it's a great decision. And in between you have

1005
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: a game against the Patriots, the Bills are going to

1006
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: have a lot of big time games in the next month.

1007
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 1: That was spread fresh off the wire. That was six

1008
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: seventeen PM from Laksha Westling from the newsroom. So well,

1009
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean, what a family affair this truly is. Uh,

1010
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: let's move on. Rogers goes quick, cow back looking steps

1011
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: up to those ends, on to five. Very tough stop,

1012
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: nal leaping crap, what's the end zone? Oh my god,

1013
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: Rogers went no huddle, went immediately and the Giants were

1014
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 1: not still seventeen yard touchdown pass Davante second of the game.

1015
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: Karon Rodgers Brilliants metally and physically. Yeah, he just took

1016
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: advantage of unsettled decense. Wayne Lara Vy and Larry mccaren

1017
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 1: of the Packers Radio network. Aaron Rodgers threw four touchdown

1018
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: passes in the snow. The Packers, you know, they put

1019
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: that ugly loss of the Niners in the rear view,

1020
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 1: beating up on Jen at the metal ends West. It's

1021
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: a nice get right game for the Green Bay Packers,

1022
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,799
Speaker 1: with another NFC East cupcake on deck in the red skin.

1023
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: First sentence right here. Giants are a great get right

1024
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: team for struggling offenses. Bah blah blah blah, bayang. Alan

1025
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: Lazard hit a great game. He turned three targets into

1026
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: three catches for a hundred three yards in a touchdown,

1027
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: had a having forty three yard bomb that's set up

1028
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: Davante adams first score, and then he came back with

1029
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: a thirty seven yard touchdown against what looked like busted coverage.

1030
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: To me, that Giants defense has had a lot of

1031
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: that busted coverage this year. Uh. And there's some things

1032
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: about the Packers that you still worry about a little bit.

1033
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones had eleven rushes for eighteen yards one point

1034
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: six yards per carry. That's been an inconsistency over the

1035
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 1: last month. And I think Kevin King and coverage is

1036
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: still an issue for their secondary. But overall, they picked

1037
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,399
Speaker 1: off Daniel Jones three times. And on a fun day

1038
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: in the snow, Aaron Rodgers looked really good. He he

1039
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 1: always seems like he's the best snow quarterback. If you're

1040
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: asking me to take a snow quarterback, they like little

1041
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: Aaron Ride I might take bread for but fair enough,

1042
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: Laura tom Brady, I would uh ask you guys to

1043
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,280
Speaker 1: watch a little bit of the press conference from Pat Shermer.

1044
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 1: It was something he was just like emptying out the

1045
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: bag of kind of I don't know. I don't know

1046
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 1: if I would call him excuses, but just explanations that

1047
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: you don't want to see out of your coach of

1048
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: a guy who's on the way out. He called this

1049
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: team historically young. Uh. Someone asked him about Jones, is

1050
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: you know rough day and he tried to paint it

1051
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: as a positive that well, he had three interceptions but

1052
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: no fumbles, like he cut down in the fumbling that

1053
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: was that was like a positive that the stadium was

1054
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: very empty there. And I know his bad weather is

1055
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: raining at the start, but that's that's a sign of

1056
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: a franchise that's in deep, deep trouble. And he is

1057
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: seven and twenty one now through games Patch. He seems

1058
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: like he'll be one of the eight Doomed eight we'll

1059
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: call them. Uh. And also, you know, you bring up

1060
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: a good point that, especially with these coaches where the

1061
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: writing seems to be on the wall once you hit December.

1062
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: There are some tropes in their press conferences and I'll

1063
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: read a line from Ron Riverez presser today, I'm not

1064
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: worried about my future. I'm worried about this football team.

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00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: We have a game coming up on Sunday. When you

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00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 1: start hearing things like this and with some of those

1067
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,399
Speaker 1: lines that Greg was talking about from Shermer, you kind

1068
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: of know the Dies been cast and it it must

1069
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: make for a really weird, slash uncomfortable, slash depressing vibe

1070
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: around team headquarters or in the head coaches house potentially.

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00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a just a dark time. Especially. Yeah,

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00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: a New York Giants team that's losing this much is

1073
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: it's tough. And it's funny because the Giants used to

1074
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: get so much credit for while they're the patient owners,

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00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: they're not gonna make hasty changes. Well that that's great

1076
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: until your team just becomes one of the worst teams

1077
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:27,840
Speaker 1: in in the NFL and then you probably fire coaches

1078
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: with after two years, two straight times, because that's what's

1079
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,760
Speaker 1: gonna happen with Macadoo. So so yeah, you're you're patient

1080
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 1: until you turned into one of the worst five teams

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00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,319
Speaker 1: in the NFL and then he became like everyone else

1082
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: and you weren't patient. I will I will ask you

1083
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:45,320
Speaker 1: to remember that sandwich bet from August where I mentioned

1084
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: Giants ownership picking up Bill Belichick in a parking lot

1085
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: outside Giants Stadium and driving them up to New England

1086
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: on a conversation that will remain secret about what Bill

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00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: Belichick might do next year. Maybe come back to with

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00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: the team where it all started from. Maybe, Yeah, basically

1089
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: from eighty four eighty one. Let's say when Parcels, excuse me,

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00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: I'll say it again, from eighty four, when Parcels kind

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00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 1: of took hold and the culture change there, and we'll

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00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: take it all the way through. And there were some

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00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 1: down periods here and there, Ray Hanley here, you know,

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00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: Dave Brown there, Danny Cannell here. Uh. Through two thousand

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00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: eleven and the super second Super Bowl win over the Patriots,

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00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: they really were a model of stability in addition to

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00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 1: being one of the more respected ownership groups and someone

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00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 1: who grew up in New York that wasn't a Giants fan.

1099
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 1: A ton of envy about how they how they were

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00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: able to do it and be consistent. But they really

1101
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: have lost their way, and you wonder what it feels

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00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: like Shermer's You know, I can't imagine any chance he

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00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 1: comes back, but they have so much work to do

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00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: to get this thing right. I think he was put

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00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: in a particularly bad position. But when you take a

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00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: head coaching job, and that could have been his last

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00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 1: chance and he knew that. What do you learn from

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00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and all these biographies about him, like you

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00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: when it came time for the second chance because my

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00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 1: head coach ownership mattered, which would check the box with

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00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: the Giants. But the situation that Shermer went into was

1112
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: one where I feel like you had to be a

1113
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: yes man for some really weird stuff going on there

1114
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: with Eli Manning on down. And it's not all just

1115
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: about Eli Manning. I just don't think Patch Schremer has

1116
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,560
Speaker 1: proven to really be a head coach that with two

1117
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,560
Speaker 1: teams now can work them out of out of a

1118
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: back corner. It's not good. I still think it's a

1119
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: great job though, if you great job, but next year.

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00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: Greig's points a lot of work. But I think ownership

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00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 1: and the and the stage and the team, they they

1122
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: just there's a lot of work. There's a glamour job.

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00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: Who wouldn't want to coach the New York Giants. You

1124
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: can be the savior there. It's like being the coach

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00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers. I mean, look at Maddie Lafleur.

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00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: You know, he met with us back at the Honors

1127
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: meeting and he's taken off nine and three. Where's where's

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00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy, I mean Mike McCarthy. He's watching at home,

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00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: which is I know a lot of the coach. You know,

1130
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: you don't move because you've lived there forever. But Green

1131
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: Bay seems like it'd be a particularly awkward place to

1132
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: live because there's only like fourteen people that don't work

1133
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: for the packers there that are in the town. So

1134
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,480
Speaker 1: it's like all my McCarthy runs into as packers, you know,

1135
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: employees and fans. I think Rod just tried to build

1136
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 1: a wall around his compound in three band. They said, no,

1137
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm not even joking. I'll have to look all these

1138
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: guys trying to build these walls. Um and so before

1139
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: we get to the next game circling back, good on

1140
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: the NFL for acting to flex that game out. What

1141
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 1: happened with the Ravens today, UM and the Niners was

1142
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: so bad and actually was worse because we realized that

1143
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: because of the Jets and Giants playing in the early slot,

1144
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 1: the biggest market in the country, New York, did not

1145
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: get Ravens Niners. Uh the West Coast. Simone, your wife Mark,

1146
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: who's a big Niners fan. She was listening to the

1147
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: game on the radio. I saw her. La didn't get

1148
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: Ravens Niners either. Astal was on Fox and she said infomercials,

1149
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: which is, you know, not what you're hoping for when

1150
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: Niners and so game has been hyped up for weeks

1151
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: as a Super Bowl preview. Uh, the two biggest markets

1152
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: in the country don't get the biggest game. Uh. So

1153
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: nice and get the Charges out of Sunday Night football.

1154
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 1: My goodness. Speaking of the Chargers, let's go. So McManus

1155
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 1: is gonna have to do it again. Ball spotted bar

1156
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: Hash forty three yards an attempt at fifty three yards

1157
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 1: for the wind off size by the Charger snap placement

1158
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: kick on the way and it is God, It's over

1159
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: Brandon mcmahdus from fifty three yards out. Just the Broncos

1160
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,600
Speaker 1: a twenty three to twenty win over the Chargers, A

1161
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: much needed victory for this Broncos team that now finds

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00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 1: their record four and eight. Dave Logan the Broncos Radio

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00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 1: network with a call. The Chargers and Broncos traded field

1164
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: goals in the final minute Sunday. Luckily for Denver they

1165
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: kicked last win at Empower Field at Mile High. You know,

1166
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: either sell the naming rights or stick with the tradition,

1167
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: you know. I just I couldn't agree with my call

1168
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: bs on this habit both ways, stadium naming stuff, um Park.

1169
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: I understand it. It's a business and the goals to

1170
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,360
Speaker 1: turn a prop bit and live in the black. But

1171
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 1: why should fans be put in that situation? That's where

1172
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: we're going with this. I mean, I don't think this

1173
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 1: should It's not fair to fans their herd to talk

1174
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: about the game. I don't know, talk about the game.

1175
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: This game and you know we were all watching it together.

1176
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: Was it just struck me as the most chargerish type

1177
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 1: game ever, but also the most bronchoish because you mentioned

1178
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: Greg was was totally fired up, and rightly so, because

1179
01:00:25,520 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers trying to drive down to kick what would

1180
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: have been a game time field goal, or even better

1181
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: to continue to go for it on fourth down and

1182
01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: get a touchdown and get out of there and what

1183
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 1: is a lost season, could not get out of their

1184
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: own way. There was a sequence where it was fourth

1185
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: and one, al right, and just to display their total

1186
01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: lack of organization, the the go watch that drive, and

1187
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: the amount of time the Chargers are wasting, the the

1188
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,919
Speaker 1: they're allergic to urgency. In a situation where you kept

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01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: seeing Philip Rivers, I don't know if there were communication

1190
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: issues with the helmet or something that instructed light. That

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01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: struck me that there might be, because he had to kept,

1192
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: you know, waddling over to the offensive coordinator and the

1193
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators, you know, talking in long, long, long sentence

1194
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: about what to do. The clocks ticking away. They have

1195
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 1: two penalties to take a fourth and one session with situation,

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01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: the fourth and six, then the fourth and eleven. Then

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01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: they get a Mike Williams bomb down field that gives

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01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: you everything you might get from a Charger's finish. And

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01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 1: on fourth and inches they kick, they go for a

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: field goal and they get it, and then the whole

1201
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 1: thing happens with Casey Hayward mere seconds left getting hit

1202
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: with a p I by Drew Lock who has never

1203
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: played an NFL game until today, and Brandon McManus hits

1204
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: the fifty three yard field goal. But it strikes me

1205
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: with Chargers games, there's so many things happening in the

1206
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: last two or three minutes that are so bizarre that

1207
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 1: it's a mess to try to chronicle other than the

1208
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: fact that this is just like every other Chargers game

1209
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: I've watched. Well, I think if if there's like Philip

1210
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: Rivers has a big hand in all this, you know,

1211
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: he's kind of the commonality in all these games. But

1212
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: one thing I think we can look at the Anthony

1213
01:01:56,840 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 1: Lynnear's what's a common analyst commonality is if he's gonna

1214
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: go out, he wants to do it in the most

1215
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: tepid way possible. Like he he's saying, I don't I

1216
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: don't want to go out swinging. I want to go

1217
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: out kicking that field goal. I don't want to go

1218
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 1: for fourth and inches. I don't want to play hurry

1219
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: up late in the game. I don't want to have

1220
01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: a decision already made in my mind of what we're

1221
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: gonna do on fourth down with two minutes and forty

1222
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 1: seconds to go. I want to then have the camera

1223
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 1: pantam me on the sideline and have me in the

1224
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator go back and forth, and you can almost

1225
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: literally read their lips like, what do you think we

1226
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 1: should do? Well? I think maybe we should run well,

1227
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I should maybe I should put well,

1228
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe we shouldn't. I don't know,

1229
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: really trust Philip Rivers, So that doesn't really make sense.

1230
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: And it's like the clock is ticking here, buddies, and

1231
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 1: then they have to waste the time out which forces

1232
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: their decision, and you saw that throughout the rest of

1233
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: the drive and it just speaks to a lack of

1234
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 1: preparation and what happens when I think there's a breakdown

1235
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: in communication and trust between the head coach and the quarterback,

1236
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: which is what this team has. Well, that was a

1237
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: pretty major report from rap sheet before the game right

1238
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: that Philip Rivers, if he continued to play the way

1239
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: he had would be pulled for Tyrod Taylor. And at

1240
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 1: one point in the game we saw Tyrod Taylor warming up,

1241
01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: but they sent Rivers back out for the next series. Anyway,

1242
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: I guess to me, I'm not sure this team wants

1243
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers next year, at least I'm not sure the

1244
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 1: head coach does. And after the way he's been treated

1245
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: with his report coming out, I'm not sure Philip Rivers

1246
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: would want to be back anyway. I would love to

1247
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,960
Speaker 1: know what happened in that sequence where they were Tyrod

1248
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: Taylor and you know it could have happened for a

1249
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: number of reasons, was flinging passes on the sideline and

1250
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: Rivers seemed like, oh, you ain't taken me out of

1251
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 1: this game, and he went back in. But was their

1252
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: conversation because there's clearly some disconnect between the coaching staff

1253
01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: and Philip Rivers. You know, it's sort of the B

1254
01:03:44,760 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: line through a lot of this madness and confusion. Their

1255
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: four and eight and they've outscored their opponents this year.

1256
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: It feels if that feels like every charge, if we're

1257
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,080
Speaker 1: gonna get on Garts, we're gonna get on Garrett for

1258
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: close you know, losing close games because the situational football.

1259
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,439
Speaker 1: This Chargers team is not coached in situational football. Drew

1260
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: lock Um, people are gonna give him a lot of credit.

1261
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: And he he had the one interception, brother than that

1262
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: didn't make huge mistakes. He was sub gather zone in

1263
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: this game four point eight yards per attempt. I was

1264
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: not nearly as impressed with him as I was with

1265
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: court Courtland Sutton, who to me continues to put down

1266
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,439
Speaker 1: a strong argument for that second all pro spot behind

1267
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,280
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas. He has played as well as any a

1268
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: f C wide receiver. And it doesn't matter whose quarterbacking

1269
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: for them. It can be Joe Flacco, Brandon Now and

1270
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 1: Drew Lock. He's beating his man in this case, one

1271
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:34,520
Speaker 1: of the best cornerbacks in the league over the past

1272
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: half decade. Casey Hayward had a great diving touchdown catch

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01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: and then obviously drew the past interference call that decided

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01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: the game. I would say, also, no, I want to

1275
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,480
Speaker 1: see a little more from Noah Fund. It feels like

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01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,640
Speaker 1: there's just lost yardage that he dropped at what could

1277
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: have been It should have been a touchdown. And during

1278
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: this whole stuff with the Chargers, they had no Von

1279
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: Miller today. At one point Jeremy Jeremiah tashed you went

1280
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: out and Millie creed to They had too healthy outside linebackers.

1281
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: That should be an area where the Chargers can take advantage.

1282
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: They also had twenty thousand almost no shows, got people

1283
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: who bought tickets and didn't show up. You are not

1284
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: used to seeing that in Denver. It's these teams are

1285
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: both four and eight. I mean the Chargers are in

1286
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: a position now, you know, with the Redskins, the Dolphins,

1287
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 1: the Bengals all win today. That you're not gonna fall

1288
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: behind the Bengals. But the Chargers are at four and eight.

1289
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: Who knows they might sneak into the top five and

1290
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: have a chance to go draft their next quarterback. You said,

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01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,640
Speaker 1: Noah font Mark, Is that like how you say on

1292
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,240
Speaker 1: instead of ant? Yes, it is actually exactly what's happening there.

1293
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 1: It's been a season long storyline. And I actually noticed

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01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: downstairs today that he called him fants And I was like, oh,

1295
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 1: I think Mark Stern get I get tweets weekly for

1296
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 1: se Kwon Barkley verse se Kwan Barkley too. It's just

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01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna change Drew Drew lock uh finished sub

1298
01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: Gabbard zone Uh. And there are some whispers downstairs in

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01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: the news room. Does he pass the quarterback the look

1300
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: test look like a quarterback? Did this whisper start at

1301
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: your desk starting and you look at him in the

1302
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: sideline the helmet off? Is that a franchise quarterback that?

1303
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: Now I'm not saying he is or he isn't. I'm

1304
01:06:11,720 --> 01:06:14,920
Speaker 1: just saying there was some chatter. It wasn't just me

1305
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: talking to myself. If there's a segment to not clip

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01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: off for our social media video. I think that's it

1307
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: right there. Let's move on to snap on the shop

1308
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: and here's the snap to throw on goal passes. Now

1309
01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: it's pickball here, there's something picked off by the box

1310
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,760
Speaker 1: that we keep it outside the end zone. We go

1311
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 1: and it's a picked by the Bucks. Tampa Bay has

1312
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: forced the fourth takeaway on the ball gave a Perfrey

1313
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:43,960
Speaker 1: Button has his second career touchdown, this one today on

1314
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:50,400
Speaker 1: the road in Jacksonville. Gene Decker off Bucks Radio Network. Yes,

1315
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 1: Sean Murphy bunting Murph, I'm sure as Buddy's call him

1316
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: picked off a Guarden meansho pass in the end zone,

1317
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: removing all semblance of drama at the Big Glorine tankleven.

1318
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 1: The Bucks beat the Jaguars. Mitchell entered the game after

1319
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: um nick Foles melted down in the first half. The

1320
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: crowd is booing they weren't moving the ball, So Doug

1321
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: Barone makes the shift back to the rookie. So the

1322
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 1: Super Bowl MVP is on the bench. And uh, and

1323
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: Greg this, I mean, the whole nick Foles season has

1324
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 1: been a disaster. Uh, And it's been sloppy and staggered

1325
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: in all the wrong ways, and it just this seems

1326
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:32,240
Speaker 1: like a fitting end to which has been a lost

1327
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 1: year for Fall. Yeah, I wave the weight flag and

1328
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 1: the whole Nick Foles Minshew debate. H Nick Foles was

1329
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: the problem today in the first half. I mean, they

1330
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: have more than you know, just quarterback problems, but today

1331
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: he pulled in six drives, three three and outs in

1332
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,240
Speaker 1: three turnovers. I mean that's like a that's going full

1333
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: Peterman's Like there was like one drop on a long

1334
01:07:54,080 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: pass that you know that that would have helped him,

1335
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: But other than that, it was his inability to move

1336
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 1: out of the way of the extremely effective Bucks pass rush,

1337
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: Shack Barrett and and Jason Pierre Paul leading the way.

1338
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: And so yeah, I was on the offensive lineman who

1339
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: also hurt Minshew, who hadn't up and down. He definitely

1340
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 1: helped them in the second half, But it was the

1341
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: Bucks defense and Todd Bowles, you know, throwing all sorts

1342
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: of blitzes at him that just that just had this

1343
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:25,080
Speaker 1: Jet Jaguars team fl mixed well. After playing mid season

1344
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: a bunch of shootouts in which you know, they could

1345
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: have won, but they lost. The Bucks have won three

1346
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 1: of the past four games, and they've just got way

1347
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: more firepower than a team like the Jaguars. They should

1348
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: be winning almost every week now, wow, uh why do

1349
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: you every week against good teams? If their quarterback can

1350
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: avoid interceptions, they will beat these teams that they've almost beat.

1351
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: They are probably the best five and seven team out there.

1352
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:50,680
Speaker 1: They could have a better record. Like this was a

1353
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,560
Speaker 1: very Unbucks game. Winston through thirty three passes, didn't have

1354
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: an interception. O J. Howard and Breshad Perriman had a

1355
01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: combined hundred and forty eight yards. Chris Godwin and Mike

1356
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: Evans were barely over a hundred combined, like they used everyone.

1357
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: Devin White deserves mention as just a guy who's really

1358
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,600
Speaker 1: coming on strong. The number five overall pick in the

1359
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: second half of his rookie year. He had an interception.

1360
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: He's great in pass coverage for a linebacker. Also had

1361
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 1: a touchdown on on a fumble recovery. And JPP just dominated.

1362
01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: He had ten pressures. Your boy Shack Barrett two sacks,

1363
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 1: So they do have a lot of him. They do

1364
01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: have a lot of talent. It's like December Bucks no one.

1365
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it's nice good for him. You threw it there. Yeah,

1366
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,360
Speaker 1: well I've I've come around on him, you know, weeks ago.

1367
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 1: I I know that was a take that I had,

1368
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,440
Speaker 1: you know, back in like late September, which was drastically

1369
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: wrong and not even related to he was he's a

1370
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 1: free agent. He's gonna make some money. Maybe he'll be

1371
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 1: franchise tech. Why not. Might be have fun in Cleveland.

1372
01:09:50,760 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: I know he's not gonna hit the market. The Jaguars, though,

1373
01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: I've been outscored a hundred and seven to forty seven

1374
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 1: the last four weeks. That's twenty points a game, So

1375
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,920
Speaker 1: that more than just the quarterback. That's well, and that's

1376
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,720
Speaker 1: that's just like a full system meltdown. And there was

1377
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 1: fighting inside their locker room after the game. Andrew Norwell

1378
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:12,120
Speaker 1: and Yannick and gok Way had to be separated and

1379
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 1: then they heard separate yelling in the shower. So it's

1380
01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 1: all happening. And they had they had issues last year

1381
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: on the Marone in the locker room and with with

1382
01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: four Nette and the rest of them. And if we're

1383
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: gonna talk about these other coaches on thin ice, you know,

1384
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: Doug Marone is probably lucky to escape what happened last

1385
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:30,960
Speaker 1: season and to get another chance this year, and it's

1386
01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 1: just the team has totally fallen apart. When they were

1387
01:10:33,880 --> 01:10:35,880
Speaker 1: winning with Minshew. Part of it in a couple of

1388
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: those games was Leonard Fournette exploding in the running game,

1389
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 1: having two hundred plus yards on the ground. So maybe

1390
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: you guys are right and we're right in the sense that,

1391
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: like I do believe in Minshew more than folds at

1392
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,320
Speaker 1: this stage, for a minute, it looked like the Minshew

1393
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: magic was gonna happen. He came in, they scored eleven unanswered,

1394
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,559
Speaker 1: and they had the ball on the two yard line.

1395
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: He that he had seven plays inside the ten, six

1396
01:10:57,160 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: straight plays inside the five with Minshew. In the fourth quarter,

1397
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 1: where they could have cut it to one score, he

1398
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: winds up throwing an interception. They couldn't run the ball.

1399
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 1: The offensive line like it was everyone collapsing in this Uh,

1400
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:12,719
Speaker 1: speaking of the doomed date, because sometimes it's seven, maybe

1401
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: six if you're lucky, but guys that could be fired. Yeah,

1402
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: you gotta add Maron to that list. So RIVERA Shermer group,

1403
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: Jake Gruden has already gone. That's just the way it

1404
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:24,759
Speaker 1: is in the NFL. Alright, let's move on seventeen yards.

1405
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 1: On the play first and ten, at the seventeen of

1406
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: the Jets, Dalton fakes a handoff from the pocket, throws

1407
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: open the middle of it. We're a touchdowne by Tyler

1408
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 1: boyd Andy Dalton threading the needle between two New York

1409
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:44,799
Speaker 1: Jets defenders and with that touchdown pass, the red rifle

1410
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:52,599
Speaker 1: stands alone career touchdown pass number one in his NFL career,

1411
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 1: more than any other quarterback in Bengals history. It's almost

1412
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: like you shouldn't have benched him, Dave Horde, and you

1413
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: haven't heard them at all this year on our podcast

1414
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,640
Speaker 1: because they hadn't won a game, But now they have.

1415
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: Bengals Radio Network, come off the roof, radio, man, you

1416
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: are free. Andy Dalton returned from an undeserved benching to

1417
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:20,599
Speaker 1: spark the Bengals to win over the Jets at Paul

1418
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: Brown Stadium. The win is Cincinnati's first and twelve tries

1419
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: this season, and a complete effort from the Bengals, who

1420
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: moved the ball with ease in the first half uh

1421
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 1: and shut down the Jets completely for four quarters. In fact,

1422
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 1: the Jets never even reached the red zone in this game.

1423
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: It was um quite frankly stunning, but also not at

1424
01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 1: all studying all the things. I'm just glad I got

1425
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: my optimism in about the Jets. I got to have

1426
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,559
Speaker 1: a nice week around Thanksgiving where I could have some fun.

1427
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 1: But anybody that's watched the Jets and follow the Jets

1428
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 1: uh for long as long as I have, or even

1429
01:12:56,040 --> 01:12:59,639
Speaker 1: half as long or twice as long, knew exactly uh

1430
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: going into this game that this was a danger spot.

1431
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,960
Speaker 1: And it became a lot more dangerous when Dalton re

1432
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,840
Speaker 1: entered the fray for Ryan Finley. Because Dalton, you had

1433
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:09,439
Speaker 1: a feeling, was gonna come in and play well, and

1434
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 1: he really did. But it's a once from from the

1435
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 1: Bengal side of it. Uh. Good for them, and even

1436
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 1: they got a Washington Redskins win, so they there and

1437
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: even though the Giants are right behind them, they're still

1438
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: in position for the first overall pick. Uh. And their

1439
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: their front seven really did a good job in this game.

1440
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 1: Carlos Dunlop had three sacks. Geno Atkins was making plays.

1441
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: He's still around doing things, uh. And on the Jets,

1442
01:13:36,439 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: all those things that I laid out on Thursday that

1443
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: they had fixed their um offensive line and their secondary

1444
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: and the UM play calling from Adam Gates. All that

1445
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:48,559
Speaker 1: stuff went back in the other direction and went back

1446
01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 1: to one in Sevenville. It was that bad. The worst

1447
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: the culprit was the offensive line, which was completely ineffective

1448
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: and it was embarrassing to watch, quite frankly as a

1449
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,120
Speaker 1: Jets fan. UM an offensive line that committed seven penalties

1450
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 1: allowed four sacks of safety. Uh, it's just hard to

1451
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: figure it out and also just such a bad look.

1452
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,719
Speaker 1: Again for Adam Gates, who has the vote of confidence

1453
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,759
Speaker 1: from his coaching staff. The three straight wins UH probably

1454
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: ensures that he'll be back uh this season. But there's

1455
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 1: nothing I could be said about this performance other than

1456
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: it was grotesque. In the Jets made NFL history as

1457
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: their want to do a team that seems chemically addicted

1458
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:27,680
Speaker 1: to embarrassing themselves. Uh. They are the first team to

1459
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:32,640
Speaker 1: ever um surrender and lose to a team that was

1460
01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 1: at least owen seven, which was the Dolphins last month,

1461
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,200
Speaker 1: and now a team that's that was O one eleven.

1462
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 1: So two teams that got their first win against the

1463
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,880
Speaker 1: Jets after seven straight losses are more to open the season.

1464
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 1: No team ever done that. Congratulations New York Jets, and

1465
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: congratulations to the Bengals, because they never were They never

1466
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: fit the profile quite frankly as an o N sixteen team.

1467
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: They had been hanging in a lot of games this

1468
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: year and had gone down to the wire a bunch

1469
01:14:57,400 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: of times and just couldn't figure it out. In this game.

1470
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:01,800
Speaker 1: It kind of all wind up for them and they

1471
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 1: got a dub. We've alluded to it a couple of

1472
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:07,040
Speaker 1: times recently. This is not the same Bengals team as

1473
01:15:07,439 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: the mid season punching bag that was getting their doors

1474
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:13,919
Speaker 1: blown off. On defense especially and a lot of tackles.

1475
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:16,120
Speaker 1: They have allowed about twelve points a game over the

1476
01:15:16,200 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: last three weeks. And you get Andy Dalton back. I'm

1477
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,800
Speaker 1: not saying he's a savior. John Ross could be coming

1478
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 1: back soon. Who knows if a J Green might play.

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01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: This is a different team, and I think they're gonna

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01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: be tough to beat the rest of the way. They

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01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: well they you already said they're beating the Patriots in

1482
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: a few weeks, so that that is a prediction. Now

1483
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,640
Speaker 1: they're big time win for them. It really speaks to

1484
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 1: how strange this Bengals franchises and season that Zach Taylor,

1485
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 1: you know, in the postgame celebration, and I kind of

1486
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,240
Speaker 1: it's one of my favorite like sneaky things is when

1487
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: the team gets their first win of the season after

1488
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: a long losing streak, just like it feels like to

1489
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,599
Speaker 1: that team they want a playoff game, like they are

1490
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,760
Speaker 1: so excited, gatorade baths and all that, right, like they

1491
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,720
Speaker 1: were just going crazy in the locker room. But it's

1492
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 1: just annie that he hands the game ball out to

1493
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,479
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, of course, which which makes all the sense.

1494
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 1: You know, exactly, the guy that they had just bench

1495
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: basically for for a fourth round rookie you had no idea,

1496
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 1: throws at the Dalton. Dalton doesn't catch it, goes on

1497
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,560
Speaker 1: the ground, and then dog Dog picks it up and

1498
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 1: he gives it back to Zach Taylor, which is really

1499
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,560
Speaker 1: nice of Andy Dalton. He gave a game ball to

1500
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, saying, you know, we all support you and

1501
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 1: all that, and he's given it to the guy who

1502
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: benched him. Who knows it might not even be Taylor's

1503
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: decision to bend it, but it just it all felt

1504
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: very even in a happy moment, it felt very bad.

1505
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 1: And they'll finish four and twelve. I like, I know

1506
01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: the vote of confidence for Gaye, and we'll see what

1507
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: happens with the Jets. I don't kill them on this

1508
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,680
Speaker 1: loss the same way I would with with the some

1509
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 1: of the other ones. They I'm sure they were just organized.

1510
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 1: I'll go watch it. But the Bengals almost beat the Steelers,

1511
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: they almost beat the Raiders. That said any vote of confidence.

1512
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 1: There's still a lot of weeks left to go in

1513
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,040
Speaker 1: the season, and it does matter. I think how Gays

1514
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,200
Speaker 1: finishes this out. I don't wouldn't I put him on

1515
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: that list of coaches you mentioned if it were to

1516
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,479
Speaker 1: morph into it from that list at this point, well,

1517
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,560
Speaker 1: and I would ask this, and I would ask this, like,

1518
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 1: you're keeping him? And why is it too? Is it

1519
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 1: a self confirmation of a decision you made last offseason

1520
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: or is it because you truly think he's the guy

1521
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: and they just have other issues that are bigger than him.

1522
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: At this point, we've talked about it, Christopher Johnson, this

1523
01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 1: was his big higher and they don't want to go

1524
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: one and done because one and done is kind of

1525
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,080
Speaker 1: a devastating look for a franchise. Also, so they they're

1526
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: gonna stick with him. I don't. I think they could

1527
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,519
Speaker 1: lose out here and maybe that does come and play,

1528
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: but I think that's what would have to happen. And

1529
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,880
Speaker 1: they were coming off three games, so they looked really good.

1530
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 1: So maybe this is just a bump of the road.

1531
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 1: But it's been a bad season. There's no other way

1532
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:46,120
Speaker 1: to describe it. One note on Andy Dalton and that

1533
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 1: franchise record for touchdown passes, that speaks a lot to

1534
01:17:50,720 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 1: how unreliable football stats are. And you can't compare across

1535
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 1: eras he's at best the fourth best quarterback in that

1536
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: franchise's history, behind Ken Anderson, Boom, Rescias and car and Palmer.

1537
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,840
Speaker 1: And depending how you feel about Greg Cook's rookie year,

1538
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,160
Speaker 1: let's give it to Andy for you know, he did

1539
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 1: take him to five playoffs one year. Six games of

1540
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: Greg Cooked in an entire career of Andy Dalton, all

1541
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 1: right on to Sunday Night football. Sean hands off the chops,

1542
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: him out to hop right side, he flips the ball,

1543
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: the Watson timing for the pylon and he's got it.

1544
01:18:21,479 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: Wrastle tussle, touchdown Houston Shawn Watson without touchdown coming from

1545
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: his body. DeAndre Hopkins beautiful, beautiful. Indeed, Mark Vandermere and

1546
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:39,920
Speaker 1: Andre where with the call Texans Radio Network to Shaun Watson,

1547
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:43,599
Speaker 1: he was the best quarterback on the field on Sunday

1548
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: night in Houston, throwing three touchdown passes and yes involved

1549
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: on the beautiful trickery there h for another score. The

1550
01:18:53,640 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: Houston Texans to New England Patriots two. Whoa very interesting

1551
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,160
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, I'm gonna start with you on this one

1552
01:19:03,200 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 1: because you had you had the testicular fortitude to lock

1553
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: up the Texans against the previously ten and won Pats,

1554
01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 1: and it paid off in a big way. Well, I've

1555
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: been thinking for a while now that the football world

1556
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: is not judging the Patriots for who they are. They're

1557
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,639
Speaker 1: judging the Patriots for who they have been in the past.

1558
01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:26,519
Speaker 1: It's been evident that this offense is among the bottom

1559
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: third offenses in the NFL for a month or six

1560
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:33,920
Speaker 1: weeks now. They have these issues. They have not been corrected,

1561
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 1: and I think when you look at this team is

1562
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,639
Speaker 1: the second worst rushing attack of the Brady era, It's

1563
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 1: the worst tight end group of the Brady era, it's

1564
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 1: one of the worst wide receiver groups of the Brady era,

1565
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: and it's an offensive line that has a different starting

1566
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,959
Speaker 1: lineup almost every week. They lost Ted Carriss. The Patriots

1567
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: did their starting center today. He was the only offensive

1568
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 1: lineman that had played every snap. And you're bringing in

1569
01:19:56,720 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 1: Kirk Ference's son, and that was a huge He doesn't

1570
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 1: even get a name. Uh yeah, you know, a little

1571
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: fair and you know everyone knows him, like, yeah, Shack Mason,

1572
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,919
Speaker 1: who's the guy who got the contract extension. Has struggled

1573
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,080
Speaker 1: all year and the offensive line is a problem in

1574
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,080
Speaker 1: the offense is a problem. And but this is the

1575
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:19,640
Speaker 1: night I think that all those problems showed up in

1576
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: a bigger way than before because it was a matchup

1577
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: on paper that looked good. And I think the first

1578
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,559
Speaker 1: half was the worst half of offensive football they played.

1579
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: And you have to give a lot of credit to

1580
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell and the Texans defense for mixing up coverages

1581
01:20:33,240 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 1: and also sending blitz is. And Tom Brady had more

1582
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,639
Speaker 1: time to throw and tried to extend plays a little

1583
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: longer actually than any Patriots game all year, and he

1584
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 1: couldn't find guys open, and they were daring the Patriots

1585
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: to throw deep, and so he did and there was

1586
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: nothing there. It was either a miscommunication with Jacoby Myers

1587
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,680
Speaker 1: or with Nikkil Harry, who was a big factor in

1588
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: the first interception which really changed the game and ultimately

1589
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:01,000
Speaker 1: gotten to kill Harry benched or Hamed Sanu dropping a

1590
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: pass on fourth down. So right now Brady doesn't have

1591
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:06,360
Speaker 1: anyone he trusts other than Adelman and James White. And

1592
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 1: we're in what week a lot of lip readers out tonight, Yeah,

1593
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:12,760
Speaker 1: there were. I mean we're in that. We're now in

1594
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: the time where we say, you know, Belichick, he just

1595
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:19,120
Speaker 1: uses September to craft his master plan on offense and

1596
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 1: figure out how to round into shape as some sort

1597
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: of total juggernaut. And to West's point, they're just not

1598
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: fixing it. They had a sixty nine yard field goal

1599
01:21:27,040 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 1: drive to open the game. Their next five drives did

1600
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:32,320
Speaker 1: not cover more than thirty yards each. Then they lost

1601
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,599
Speaker 1: the ball on downs and I love the Texans doing

1602
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:37,320
Speaker 1: what you need to do against England, but just be

1603
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: ultra aggressive the trick play that we open with. But

1604
01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: then they had the shot to Will Fuller that went

1605
01:21:43,080 --> 01:21:45,479
Speaker 1: out incompleted the back into the end zone, almost a catch.

1606
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 1: And they go right back after that to Kenny Stills

1607
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: and It's like, that's how you need to handle New England.

1608
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: And their defense has been super consistent, but they got

1609
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 1: buzz sawed by the Ravens. They got taken to town

1610
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: a night by Houston's offense. You have to wonder, just

1611
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,479
Speaker 1: I don't I think I'm not gonna view New England

1612
01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:06,080
Speaker 1: as they're gonna round into this number one seed material

1613
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 1: over the next couple of weeks. I wonder what will

1614
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: happen against the Bills. I wonder what will happen down

1615
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 1: the road the Chiefs next week. We in a podcast

1616
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,639
Speaker 1: that you know, technical difficulties might have wiped it away

1617
01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: from a lot of our listeners, but we talked about

1618
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: it on the Friday Morning Thanksgiving recap show. The Bills

1619
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,840
Speaker 1: are lying in the weeds a little bit at nine

1620
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:24,880
Speaker 1: and three. If the Pats came down to Earth and

1621
01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:27,680
Speaker 1: now you have the Pats tendant to they fall out

1622
01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:29,960
Speaker 1: of the number one seed that's now property of the

1623
01:22:30,040 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: Ravens for the time being, and New England now goes

1624
01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: and has a big matchup against the Chiefs, who are

1625
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 1: obviously an excellent team as well. It's it's a very

1626
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 1: interesting time and I want to because I feel like

1627
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 1: this falls to me certain things like the Eli Manning

1628
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: defending Bill O'Brien, trying to give him some praise. It's

1629
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: hard to get praise for Bill O'Brien in this room sometimes.

1630
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: But they're eight and four, they are looking like they're

1631
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: gonna well, and the Titans should be taken seriously at

1632
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: this point. But I still like the Texans to win

1633
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: that division. And on the same day that Ian Rapport

1634
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: reported that the Texans are not planning to hire a

1635
01:23:04,400 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 1: general manager in they like what he's doing running that

1636
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: whole show. Uh, this is just an organization that's become

1637
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 1: consistent and year after year. I don't know if it's

1638
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 1: going to translate into January. But the Texans to me

1639
01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,000
Speaker 1: are a dangerous team in the conference. They play the

1640
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: Titans twice in the last three weeks of the of

1641
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: the season that will decide the division, and I think

1642
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 1: the odds are increasing that both of those teams make

1643
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They will have a chance, And I think

1644
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:32,439
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense for the most part played well. You know,

1645
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 1: they give up the touchdown where Brady has an interception

1646
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:38,680
Speaker 1: in the red zone early, they get a lot of

1647
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,240
Speaker 1: punts they give up for you know they had Texans

1648
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: had two and seventy six yards on the day. They

1649
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: got a lot of stops, they didn't make big plays.

1650
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:50,800
Speaker 1: What I saw was Deshaun Watson and UH eight Jordan

1651
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 1: nakin is making a play and Kenny Stills making a

1652
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: play in Duke Johnson getting singled up on Kyle van Noy,

1653
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: and I just saw better athletes winning their one on

1654
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 1: one match ups because they were better on those plays

1655
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 1: and they deserve to win it. A lot of the times,

1656
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots blitz is we're getting home and Watson was

1657
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 1: just too good. And I think that's like good offense

1658
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 1: is gonna be good defense. I don't look at the

1659
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,759
Speaker 1: Patriots defense any differently. I look at a Patriots offense

1660
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 1: that I have been saying that I think has time

1661
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 1: to round into form, and I think that's still true.

1662
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 1: I mean they think they will. I I mean it

1663
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:28,360
Speaker 1: depends what form is good enough to win playoff games.

1664
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 1: I think that's absolutely possible. But they have four weeks left.

1665
01:24:32,160 --> 01:24:34,000
Speaker 1: I mean a year ago at this time, they were

1666
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 1: also losing to the Dolphins and the Steelers. We've seen

1667
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,240
Speaker 1: so many teams over the years, over and over this

1668
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: happens to us that teams stink in December and they

1669
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,560
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. So if you're Patriots fan just

1670
01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 1: trying to manage the season, they want to get to

1671
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: that by They need to get the buy and the

1672
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: one seed is gonna be tough at this point. But

1673
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: if they can get whatever it is, they win two

1674
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: or three of the last four games. They probably need

1675
01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 1: to win three of the last four games. If you

1676
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: beat the Chiefs, you're probably gonna get it. You're in

1677
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,120
Speaker 1: good shape. Beat the Chiefs at home. You've got at

1678
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 1: Cincinnati home, Buffalo home, Miami. But who knows the Texans also,

1679
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 1: you know, if they could play well enough, could maybe

1680
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: they could run the table and they have a tie break.

1681
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: When the Patriots lose, they tend to lose convincingly. I

1682
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: mean they got blown out three times last year. They've

1683
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: been blown out twice this year. Uh, it's not like

1684
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 1: totally out of their character that we've seen it, whether

1685
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 1: the team the Patriots team we've seen in the lost

1686
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: to Baltimore, the barely winning against the Eagles, barely winning

1687
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, and losing to Texans in convincing fish

1688
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,640
Speaker 1: and cannot be counting on to go into Cincinnati and

1689
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,680
Speaker 1: just win the game. I don't think that. I think

1690
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:42,960
Speaker 1: if they their schedule has helped them a lot this year,

1691
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:44,760
Speaker 1: whereas if they had a tougher schedule, they might be

1692
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 1: a more normal record like eight and four, which again

1693
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 1: isn't like, isn't the end of the world. I do

1694
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,840
Speaker 1: think that there are pieces here, but you're starting to

1695
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: run out of time. You threw the ball five times

1696
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:56,719
Speaker 1: to s New you thought maybe he'd be an answer

1697
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 1: fourteen yards. You threw it six times to Dorsett, who

1698
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 1: was in one month coverage a lot fifteen yards. So

1699
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: there's really struggling to find like where is this offense

1700
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 1: coming from? And if you have a pretty bad offensive line,

1701
01:26:09,160 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 1: which they do right now, when you play the better

1702
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: defenses and the Chiefs have a pretty good past defense,

1703
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,560
Speaker 1: like it's gonna be tough. You're gonna need turnovers, and

1704
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:18,560
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to be in foxborol most like, I

1705
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: just haven't seen Tom Brady this frustrated in regular season

1706
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,200
Speaker 1: games like this consistently week after week. And there were

1707
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 1: a series of flags on the offensive line that are

1708
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 1: not characteristic for the Patriots. So it isn't just you know,

1709
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: you have to fix one position group. There's a lot

1710
01:26:34,080 --> 01:26:36,560
Speaker 1: to fix. Do I trust any team more to do

1711
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 1: it than the Patriots. Obviously it's every year they do this.

1712
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: We get it, but something different with Brady it is different.

1713
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:45,880
Speaker 1: We also said we thought it was different last year.

1714
01:26:45,920 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: The difference this year is it's offense. And I know

1715
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: and I always trust offense more than defense. And the

1716
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 1: offense is like nothing we've seen in the in the

1717
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:57,639
Speaker 1: Belichick era. Again though, like the teams that get the buy,

1718
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 1: it's just it's just a three game tournament and then

1719
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 1: it's your matchups and sometimes in the Patriots have gotten

1720
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 1: some breaks over the years of you know, they get

1721
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 1: to play the championship game even when they're not the

1722
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,639
Speaker 1: one seat or a certain matchup falls the way way.

1723
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways you can get lucky. But

1724
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 1: right now, unless they get a lot better, they're gonna

1725
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 1: need to get lucky. Let's play a fun game, um,

1726
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 1: I asked Erica, and even though she's a Patriots, then

1727
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 1: she did do it, so that was she's a pro.

1728
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,559
Speaker 1: I asked her to cut the Patriots radio network highlight

1729
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 1: of that trick played by the Texans. Now, if the

1730
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 1: Pats did that, play. Zolak would be hollering like a

1731
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 1: madman and saying, warm up the busses and all that stuff.

1732
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:41,680
Speaker 1: Will we hear from Zolak uh during this call and

1733
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: the immediate moments after, will you hear his voice? Yeah,

1734
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: we'll hear him down a beer? Probably. Have you heard

1735
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,400
Speaker 1: this yet? I have not heard it. I I think

1736
01:27:49,479 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 1: so because, like I'm assuming that he realizes that's part

1737
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: of his job. I don't think it's going to be

1738
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: as wild and vociferous, but you know, yes, I think

1739
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 1: we'll hear his voice. This is the very is the

1740
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 1: literal definition. I predict radio silence from Zolac greg Let's

1741
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: hear uh silence? I guess, okay, okay, let's see walks

1742
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:15,320
Speaker 1: and he hands it up to Johnson and then gives

1743
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: it to Hopkins. On a reverse he pitches it to

1744
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:20,400
Speaker 1: the right social dives to the pylon. Did he get

1745
01:28:20,479 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: in to Shaun Watsons celebrating with his teammates the pylon

1746
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:29,599
Speaker 1: knocked over the officials with a less than emphatic signal

1747
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:33,600
Speaker 1: and the text, if you guess you just want to

1748
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 1: gain here? That makes sense? That might be come back

1749
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: the Texas. I almost think that both sides are right

1750
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:50,519
Speaker 1: that we did hear from him. But to your point,

1751
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 1: it was not like, oh wow, what great triggeration warm

1752
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,320
Speaker 1: up the buses now, It was I think you've got

1753
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:02,839
Speaker 1: jobbed on that one. Villas Hey, Ricky also a tweet

1754
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:07,360
Speaker 1: from you sent during the game. Belichick looks more disappointed

1755
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: than when I gave my dad's new Mercedes a car

1756
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 1: wash and used the mop to reach the roof, causing

1757
01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:15,639
Speaker 1: the metal bar to scratch the entirety of the car.

1758
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 1: First of all, that sucks, but a bit of a

1759
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,240
Speaker 1: flex that you grew up with Mercedes and your driveway.

1760
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,280
Speaker 1: Um No, I didn't think of it like that. I

1761
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 1: thought of it more of like my dad was so

1762
01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: upset when I tried to do this nice thing for him, Um,

1763
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:30,879
Speaker 1: and it made If it was just his Toyota Corolla,

1764
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:32,600
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been a big of a deal. It

1765
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: was it was a Mercedes, and I was like, I'm

1766
01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,560
Speaker 1: going to give my dad a secret car wash. And

1767
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 1: I reached on top of the roof with the mop

1768
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: and you know how there's the metal bar that like

1769
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: holds the mop to the stick part of it, and

1770
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,200
Speaker 1: I just scratched the top of my dad's new Mercedes,

1771
01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: back and forth, secret car wash, Yeah, I want. I

1772
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:50,479
Speaker 1: wanted to be nice and like do it something for

1773
01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:53,760
Speaker 1: my dad? And what was your punishment or did he

1774
01:29:54,080 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: think it was such a nice act that he saw

1775
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: he didn't care about the scratch. Oh no, I had

1776
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 1: to buy him n Mercedes. You you were like nikkil

1777
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 1: Harry was like, oh, I'm gonna surprise Tom Brady with

1778
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,760
Speaker 1: this special new route. I'm gonna run and then not

1779
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 1: be sorry. The only Mercedes I've ever been in is

1780
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 1: when I was like parking valet cars for the rich

1781
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:14,920
Speaker 1: people at the top of the hill. We don't we

1782
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:17,680
Speaker 1: believe that. I said, Wow, you could have leather in

1783
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 1: the interior. Unbelievable. Do you need a car wash day?

1784
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's any if there's any four people

1785
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,519
Speaker 1: who have overcome more in life, I don't think you

1786
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 1: could find them outside of you know, created narratives spun

1787
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 1: from fiction. Um, all right, so good stuff. We'll be

1788
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 1: back on Tuesday with a podcast breaking down all what's

1789
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:45,880
Speaker 1: happening around the NFL. That's what we do. Then we'll

1790
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 1: have a show Thursday, Thursday Night show and the wheel

1791
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:52,120
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1792
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:55,799
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1794
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1795
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,560
Speaker 1: Mark will curate the entire project. Give him something to

1796
01:31:06,600 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 1: do at least read them all. Right, let's go stand

1797
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:13,680
Speaker 1: hands is signing up quiet Storm the mail man, the

1798
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: old boss. That sounds like all these guys had Mercedes

1799
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 1: growing up like must be nice us did. Of course

1800
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 1: they our friendly. I'm lonely, I'm lonely. Make it all

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01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 1: go away, hey, hey, make it all go away, hey hey,