1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Kaboom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a 2 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: week was enough, I think again. He's the last remnants 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: of the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: treats crackheads in the ghetto gutter the same as the 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,600 Speaker 1: rich pill poppers in the penthouse. The clearing House of 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: Hot takes break free for something special. The Fifth Hour 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: with Ben Maller starts right now in the air everywhere 8 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: and a Happy Friday, kicking off the weekend in style. 9 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: On the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller and Danny g In, 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: the Friday Podcast is in effect. And yes we are 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: back then jam very exciting. I know you're excited by that. 12 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: So the Friday Podcast a chance to catch up with 13 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: someone in the world of sports or in radio. I 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: love talking to radio people, and today you are in 15 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: for a treat. A man who has been a staple 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: of the radio dial and Boston all over New England 17 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: has lived an amazing sojourn around radio is gonna spend 18 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,919 Speaker 1: some time with this. We're gonna welcome in Mikey Adams. 19 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: If you have spent any time in Boston over the years, 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: you know who this guy is. Planet Mikey. The name 21 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: of his radio show. He now does a podcast. He 22 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: worked at w e I. My first sojourn into Boston 23 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: radio was on the Mikey Adams so I got to 24 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: fill in for Mikey, had a great time, came to Boston, 25 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: met him, went out boozing it up with Mikey Adams, 26 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: and he showed me the town, introduced me to everybody. 27 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: It was a lot of fun back in the day. 28 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: And a number of people have said, Hey, you gotta 29 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: talk to Mikey. I gotta find out what's going on 30 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: with Mike Addams. So here we are an opportunity to 31 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: talk to Mike Addams. And Mikey has done really crazy 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 1: things in his radio career. We're gonna get into all 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: of that. And replaced the most iconic radio guy of 34 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: all radio, and we will get into that at some 35 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: point as well. So let's welcome in here to the 36 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: Fifth Hour with Ben Maller and Danny g the great 37 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: Mikey Adams and so Mikey, let's start with this. Now. 38 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people who love this podcast in 39 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: Boston and New England who know who you are. There's 40 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: also a bunch of people that might not know who 41 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: you are. So, how would you explain what the Planet 42 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Mikey Show is to someone who's never heard the Planet 43 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: Mikey Show. Well, you know, it's a it's a radio 44 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: experience excepted. Uh. You know, we try to make it 45 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 1: less boring. You know, think about the Planet Mikey Show is. 46 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,519 Speaker 1: It's it's really now a podcast. It's not even a 47 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: radio show anymore, you know, because I was there was 48 00:02:55,400 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: a coo guitar. What happened Mikey? What I mean? You were? 49 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: I followed you since you left the e I and 50 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: you you bounced around. But you've had You've had gigs, 51 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: you've had, you've had work. What happened? Sure? Yeah, well 52 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: that's the radio business, you know. I started in radio 53 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: seventy three, seventy three. I don't know how old you 54 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: were then. Uh were you born yet? No, I wasn't 55 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: even alive. You've been on radio my entire life. Before 56 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: I was in alive, you missed all those great shows, 57 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:29,679 Speaker 1: nearly said. You know, it's like radio. You get. My 58 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: first twelve years in radio, I had like thirteen jobs, 59 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: and you get used to that. When I moved to 60 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: TV sports, it was a little more stable. I was 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: able to last, you know, six years or so at 62 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: each of the TV networks, but then back to radio, 63 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: and then when I was at the e I was 64 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: there twenty three years. Overall, you've seen how many how 65 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: many radio stations have you worked at, Mike last time, 66 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: I think it was about fifteen. Okay, maybe maybe you 67 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: know the the specific count is as important in the 68 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: radio industry because you know there's gonna be more job 69 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: changes in the future, although I don't know, you know what, 70 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: then I'm getting old, you know, I don't know. People 71 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: have age discrimination. You know, my last birthday, the candles 72 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: cost more than the cake. But but you have such 73 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: a following, shouldn't see. I think that's changed a little 74 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: bit in radio because now I remember about ten fifteen 75 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: years ago, they were getting rid of guys that had 76 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: big followings, and then they realized, wait a minute, these 77 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 1: new people. It takes a long time to get people 78 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: to follow you and to have to build that audience. 79 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm obviously by I'm a fan, Mike, you 80 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: got that, and I know how hard it is to 81 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,559 Speaker 1: have people follow you around and stuff. And it seems 82 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: like a newer generation radio. I guess I'm becoming a 83 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: grumpy old guy too, because I look at these new 84 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: guys in radio, I'm not that impressed, Mikey. I'm not 85 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: that like I I grew up listening to guys like 86 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: you and you know, the guys that that had a 87 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: lot of stick ala these seeming like the younger guys 88 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: are lacking in that area a lot. Well, you have 89 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: a point. There's there's I think there's a lack of creativity. 90 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: But the thing about you is, and you you realize this. 91 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: I think at an early age when you get on 92 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,919 Speaker 1: the air, it has to be your own personality that 93 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: carries you through. It can't be gimmickry. It can't be 94 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: you know, hotcakes. I mean, you're gonna have those, but 95 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: people have to be able to follow you because they like, 96 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: you know your personality and you've always had that going 97 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: for you where you know, it's the real you that's 98 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: on the radio as opposed to some fake persona. And 99 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: a lot of these young young guys come out of 100 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: the box thinking where they got to establish some kind 101 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: of you know, Jim Rome mentality or whatever, you know, 102 00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: whatever they choose to to whatever direction they choose to 103 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: go in, they take that's it. And that's play acting. 104 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: There's no longevity in that. You have to be able 105 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: to maintain your your ship whatever that is and uh 106 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: as part of your personality in order to have that, 107 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, that long term commitment from people. Now, I 108 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: was on EI at Night for eleven years. Uh, you know, 109 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: and I think that we have That's how you build 110 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: up because friendship with the with the listener, the listenership, 111 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: and if you don't have that, they're gonna be moving 112 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: around pressing buttons and going back and forth, and you're 113 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: gonna be your diame a dozen cookie cutter type of mentality. Yeah. 114 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: And and I want you to know I mentioned this 115 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: before we started rolling on the podcast, Mikey that Pierre 116 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: who lives in Springfield and he was the biggest fan 117 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 1: of yours and several others. They were trying to they say, 118 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: you gotta get Mikey on the podcast. I'm like, okay, 119 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: we'll get him on. So and and I want to 120 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: ask you. You You worked a lot of different day parts 121 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: in radio over the years. I'm a little biased. I've 122 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: mostly worked at night. I had a daytime, had a 123 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: couple of daytime shows early on, did a midday show. 124 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: I think there's a more of a connection at night 125 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: or late night radio than there is during the day. 126 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: You buy that, or am I just talking out of 127 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: my tokis because I do an overnight show. No, I 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,920 Speaker 1: think there's a First of all, there's there's less of 129 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: a rush for the listener and for the host. At 130 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: night you can establish more of your personality because you 131 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: have time to do and some more relaxed time and 132 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: day you don't have all kinds of agendacy have to 133 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: fit in and and squeeze, and you can just kind 134 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: of ramble on and talk at length. I like doing 135 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: I've done overnights. You know, early in my career I 136 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: did mornings. I replaced Howard Stern in Night in Hartford 137 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: and that was morning, and I just didn't the probably 138 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: morning with me was back then I was living a 139 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: party life, and I it was difficult for me to 140 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: get up after three hours sleep and go do go 141 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: to the race. For me, the best time of the 142 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: day is uh, well maybe mid day, but mostly you know, 143 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: afternoons I think are perfect for me. And then the 144 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: evenings that I did it and at EI were good 145 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: as far as the timing and my physical you know, 146 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: countance being involved. But you know, uh, yeah, I've done 147 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: every single day part. What do you like? You like 148 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: the overnight the best time. Yeah, I'm more of a 149 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: night person. I never even when I was a kid 150 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: growing up, I hated getting up to go to school. 151 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: It felt like it felt like punishment to have to 152 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: get up early. And I still wanted to sleep more. 153 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: And I just feel more creative night. And as you know, 154 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: Mikey from being the Boss and radio that the Boss 155 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: is actually in radio don't actually listen that much at night, 156 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: so you have you do have more creative freedom and night. 157 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: But I gotta ask you. You replaced Howard Stern before 158 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: Howard Stern became Howard Stern, right, and when he was 159 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:19,239 Speaker 1: in in Hartford, is that right? He said, yeah, yeah, 160 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 1: he was the morning guy there and you know we 161 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: he made two hundred and seventy five dollars a week 162 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: at w c c C and Hartford. I mean that 163 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: was absolutely the cheapest radio operation ever in history. And 164 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: all the stuff he talks about in that movie, there 165 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: was a private parts he he talks about how cheap 166 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: the Boss was there. It was much worse than that. Uh, 167 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: the guy was so cheap now that so the job 168 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: take to seventy five a week. So Howard left for Detroit, 169 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, for for more meeting and it's not hard 170 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: to beat two seventy five weeks and I replaced him, 171 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 1: and they gave me the exact same figure, to seventy 172 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: five a week. And that's the last time I was 173 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: on an equal payment footing with Howard Stern, not forty 174 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: two years ago. So when now, when you replaced him, 175 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: did he have a huge following at that time? He 176 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: was still kind of building his act up? But did 177 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: he were you given a rude welcoming at that station 178 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: where people upset that you were there or they didn't 179 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,719 Speaker 1: really care? Well he was. He was a developing situation. 180 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 1: He had built a following at C C C because 181 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: he was a little bit outrageous and not nearly as 182 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 1: outrageous as you would you know, soon become. But they 183 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: wanted to get him out of Hartford, so somebody found 184 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: a way to get him hired in Detroit. And uh, 185 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: I think the competition in Hartford wanted Howard Stern out 186 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 1: of the market so they could enhance their own rating. 187 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 1: Says he was starting to build an audience. Then he 188 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: went to do what Detroit, Washington, New York, and the 189 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: rest of the rest is history. You know, his his career, 190 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: my career, you know, took off like a rocket and 191 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: just really kind of craft of bed. Yeah. Yeah, he 192 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: probably says, I can't believe I I I left Hartford 193 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: and Mikey Adams replaced me in heart Ruts. Amazed it 194 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 1: it And now I'm only making the same amount of 195 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: money that he makes. Adams makes this much per week 196 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: and I make that much per minute. And Howard's like, 197 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: he's at his house in Florida, the one in the Hamptons, uh, 198 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,079 Speaker 1: you know, wherever he's bouncing around. The good thing about 199 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: that relationship was that, uh you know, and I didn't 200 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: have one with Howard because he I didn't actually talk 201 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: to me. Once he was gone, I took over the 202 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: morning show, but I got to meet his uh his 203 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: future producer, Fred Norris, and I hired him at a 204 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: rock station sometime later in Springfield. And Fred Norris and 205 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: I were from the same hometown in Manchester, Connecticut, so 206 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: that was good for for me for a while. And 207 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: then Freddie, of course joint Howard and I did pretty 208 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: well himself. But you know, there's that's the what's the 209 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: way the radio business in there? You know, you get 210 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: moved around all the time. Sometimes I got I got 211 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: fired from a radio station because like I didn't like 212 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: my face. He didn't he didn't think you were attractive. 213 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 1: What was the issue? Well, I mean, you know, it's 214 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 1: like usually it's the voice, you know, when radio and TV. 215 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: I understand it. I mean my TV career ended pretty 216 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: much when High Death came into existence. That's that's my fault. 217 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: It gratitudes to tell me on the radio that I 218 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: looked like a block hunt. What was it? What was 219 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: it like an I mean when you started in the 220 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: early nineties, right when you were you were doing that thing, 221 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: the Planet Mikey stuff, and like that station was a 222 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: dominant I got to work there a little bit. I 223 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 1: filled in occasionally for you. That was the first time 224 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: I was on that station, and then I actually did 225 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: some filling stuff a couple of years ago at night. 226 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: But when you when you were on that, that was 227 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 1: the only sports station in Boston, an amazing sports town, 228 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: and I remember that being a ratings monster back in 229 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: those days, and it's still they still do well, But 230 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,719 Speaker 1: back in those days, it was insane. What kind of 231 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: numbers were you guys drawing on those shows? It was 232 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: it was crazy. We had twelves and stuff at night. 233 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. We were on a M two 234 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: with a crappy signal. Man, it was terrible AM signal 235 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: and so they had to get affiliates around him to 236 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: fill in the gaps on their their wattage. But uh, yeah, 237 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: AM only only sports station in town number one and 238 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: men for years and years and years. Everybody was doing well. 239 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: All the ratings were doing well, in the pay, the 240 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: pay was good, and there was really a lot of fun. 241 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: You know, Glenn Ordway and all the guys that we had, 242 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: Dennis Calahan in the morning, they were all doing well 243 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: and that translated into my shift that in the evening too, 244 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: you know. Uh. But the problem is when when when 245 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,160 Speaker 1: the sports shub came along competition and decided to go 246 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: on FM in Boston. Uh, I think that Intercom at 247 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: the time, the company that owned the station was very 248 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: slow to react to that and stayed. We stayed on 249 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: AM for like a year. And you can't in this world, Ben, 250 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: you know this, You can't be if you give somebody 251 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: choice of listening to this kind of content on FM, 252 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: where this kind of content on AM, they're not gonna 253 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: tick AM. They're just not going to Yeah, no, exactly you. 254 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: And then you have competition. You gotta you gotta keep 255 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: up with with the other guys. I remember when I 256 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,679 Speaker 1: came into t e I the first time, when I 257 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: met you, there are a couple of things that stood out. 258 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: One was that you had the entire show catered by 259 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: a local restaurant. And I think you had told me 260 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 1: your producer told me that every night. You were such 261 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: a radio boss, Mikey in those days, for the listener 262 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: you had. And I'm impressed by this because I can't 263 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: get anything free. I can't get it. But you had 264 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: food every night, cater to the Italian one night, Burgers 265 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: the next. How did that? How did that? Were you? 266 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: You weren't paying for that? Was that sponsorship deal? Or 267 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: were these just friends of yours? How did that happen? No? 268 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: That was purely a radio food heist. The business is 269 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: famous for that. You know. You you get him a 270 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: free plug on the radio. You say, oh, we want 271 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 1: to thank Big Daddy's for bringing by the six pieces 272 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: in the five pounds of chicken wig. You know, you 273 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: just thank them on the air, and they loved their 274 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 1: their name on the air and in their free publicity, 275 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: so they just pile the food in on you. Now 276 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: you used to eat. What happened to you? By the way, 277 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: you lost a lot of weight? Yeah, yeah, I did. 278 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: I I was at my biggest. I was close to 279 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: like five pounds when I first met you. I was, 280 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: I was pretty big. I was in the process of 281 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: losing weight, but I hadn't really lost it yet. And yeah, 282 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: I saw you know my my michigas here, mikey as 283 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: I do this in a minute, fasting, which if you 284 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: had told me, if when I was thirteen year old, Ben, 285 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 1: that I would be a middle aged man and I 286 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: would go like two days a week not eating like 287 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not Muslim, I don't celebrate Ramadan, but 288 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: I I pretty much fast every day. It's proad. It's 289 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: part of my routine. I eat like one meal a day. 290 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: So that's my my A nonsense and it worked. It's 291 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: like a kind of a version of a caveman diet. Mikey, 292 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: but I do miss I missed by eating. I said, 293 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: wait a minute, that's not bad. He looks like Luke 294 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: Walton or something when I was in When I was 295 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: in the studio, that Lakers had pau Gasol and you 296 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: had one of the great nicknames you were, Uh you're 297 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: the Lakers and Celtics both had good teams at that time, 298 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: and there was I think it must have been like 299 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: oh eight oh nine when Doc Rivers was coaching the 300 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: Celtics when I was in there. But uh, you remember 301 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: you called remember your nickname for pau Gasol Llama. You 302 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: called him the llama that was outstanding. And his brother 303 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: I called his brother al Paca. So I got a 304 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: picture of this. I'll tweet it to you. He looks 305 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: exactly like a llama. If you put a Llama picture 306 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: right next to Pagasol, you say, and then they're related united. Uh, 307 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: that's it. That was hilarious, and the other thing from that. 308 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: But there's a couple other things from that. When we 309 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: first met Mikey the the incident where we were talking 310 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: on your show and the issue of tattoos came up, 311 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: and I think we talked about radio bets, like crazy 312 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: radio bets or something like that. And then one of 313 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: the most amazing moments I've been in you know radio 314 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: fair amount. Now I'm getting getting up there in age. 315 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: But I remember when you you to prove that you 316 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: were not lying about the tattoos that you had acquired, 317 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: you pulled your pants down in the studio Mikey to 318 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: show me if I remember. Let me see if I 319 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: remember correctly. I remembered or Orlando Magic, and I think 320 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: it was a Yankee tattoo. Am I correct? Yeah, that's 321 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 1: exactly corrected. By the way, Just so you know, that's 322 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: not the reason I got fired from the station for 323 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: constantly pulling my pants down, although I did, I got 324 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: a lot. Uh. The reason I got fired at e 325 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: I was because, Uh, I think Kurt Minihan wanted much 326 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: to have my job, which he has now. But never 327 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: mind that the pattoo's I got the Yankee tattoo on 328 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: my left butt cheek. In I was on TV and 329 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: I as some guy called up and it it was the 330 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: Braves against the Yankees, and the Braves were up two 331 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: games to none, and they had really convincingly won the 332 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: first two games. And so I said that Grant's gonna 333 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: win this. Some Yankee fan cost me says, I, there's 334 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: no chance Yankee is gonna win the World Series. I said, 335 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: if they win the World Series, I will tattoo their 336 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: logo on my ass. So they they won the next 337 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: four games, and I was in a tattoo parlor on 338 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: video because I was on TV Time Video videotaping me 339 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: in New Hampshire getting my butt cheek for the Yankee. 340 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: I mean that's a you know, I'm a hardcore Red 341 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: Sox name, right, So that was that when and that 342 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: was that was very embarrassing. But uh, I should have 343 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: learned my lesson there instead of when. When it was 344 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: I believe it was. Uh. Lebron and the Cleveland Cavaliers 345 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: were playing the Orlando Magic in the playoffs and and 346 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: I thought, well, Lebron, they're gonna win this. So I 347 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: bet another guy if the Orlando Magic win, out tattoo 348 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: their blogo on. I figured, Hey, who sees my rear 349 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,719 Speaker 1: end anyways except the studio. So I said, if they 350 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: win at the if Lebron doesn't win, out tattoo their 351 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: the Orlando Magic logo on my right butt cheek, which 352 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: is now of course history, it's there. And I so 353 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: when I do pull down my pants now in the studio, 354 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: everybody goes, wow, how do you, how do you like 355 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: the Yankees in the Orlando Magic at the same time. 356 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 1: But the weird thing is that you remember the whole 357 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: what happened in Boston during the marathon. So what I 358 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: do is, I got a tattoo on my uh my 359 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: uh my unit that says it says bong b O 360 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: n g H. But when I get excited, it says 361 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:36,239 Speaker 1: Boston Strong. Well, Mikey, if the radio thing doesn't work out, 362 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: you can go to porn. You gotta you gotta future 363 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: in that. But oh, Ben, don't, don't kid yourself. I've 364 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: already done that all back in the in the in 365 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: the seventies of the Yeah, yeah, you know, I was 366 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: in a lot of really unbelievable uh X rated porn movies. 367 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: You might remember me at uh the right muff. I 368 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: was also, let me see, what else? Was I in? 369 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: Star Wars, Romancing the Bone, well a rob a rom com, 370 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: always popular rom cops. And lately I've said, well, a 371 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: few years back, I did shading Ryan's privates. That was 372 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: a real good one. Yeah, all the script. I gotta 373 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: tell him years ago when I was when I started 374 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: out in radio in the and I started, you know, 375 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: way after you. But when I when when I got 376 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,120 Speaker 1: to start, I was doing a midday show and and 377 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: we had porn actors that were big fans of the 378 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: show that would send me messages. Never any women. It 379 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: was always dudes. They they loved the show though, and 380 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: we you know, doing the show. I was doing a 381 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: local show in l A, the porn capital, the San 382 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: Fernando Valley of LA where they may call the and 383 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: and these guys would email me, They're like, oh, I 384 00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: want to come down and you know, hanging out of 385 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: the station or whatever. And uh, it was it was interesting. 386 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: It was interesting. Now did you start that interested in 387 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: that film industry when you were a young man in Irvine, California. Yeah, 388 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: I started studying the the art smikey and the acting. 389 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 1: The women really are good actresses. They really aren't talented 390 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: there in those movies. And but that was in the 391 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: days before we had access. It was hard to get 392 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: that kind of material. It was contrabrand, you know. I yeah, 393 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: there are no X rated movie theaters anymore. That one 394 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: that one under you know as the thing, because video 395 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: came along. Video killed the porn stars. But that's that's 396 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 1: a fact. It's a totally different job, and now people 397 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: just point and click, you know. I mean, well, and 398 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 1: I remember, like in those days before the you know, 399 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: porn on the internet, like I was a single guy. 400 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: You looked at me, Mike, you know, no women would 401 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: get around me. So I I had the guys would 402 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: send big boxes of vh s uh movies so I 403 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: could sample some of the work of not them, of course, 404 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: but the the other other people in the movies. And 405 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: I remember I had unload that once. Uh. Those that 406 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: was like hidden in the closet for years. I'd forgotten 407 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 1: I had all these things. And then they find out 408 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: that Tracy Lawns was only sixteen when she made those 409 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: movies and get it out of here. Oops. Not only 410 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,400 Speaker 1: about that, No, no, nothing to do with other guy. 411 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know she was. You know. Uh, what was 412 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: it like about you? You got ready said? When did 413 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: you start rating in the seventies? What was seven? Yeah? Yeah? 414 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: My first shift was seventy three and I worked at 415 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: a really I mean, honestly, you want to talk about 416 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: week am signal, I worked at a class four am. 417 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 1: It was a thousand watch during the day and it 418 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: was two hundred fifty watch at night. Two or fifty 419 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: watch now, I got a hair dryer right over here. 420 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: Thousand watched. Honestly, God, it was the worst job I 421 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: ever had. I was a overnight guy in between religious 422 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: evangelist tapes. I would open up the phone lines and 423 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: do community service talk, you know, issues of the day, 424 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: and nobody ever call. Because it was the weakest station ever. 425 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: I used to try to get people to call. I'd say, okay, uh, 426 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: let's be controversial. You know it's just Bill is no good? 427 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: They just passed? We think of that? Not The phone 428 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: didn't ring, so I give the number again. I'd say, okay, 429 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: I think the pope is uh a pimp? What do 430 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: you think of that? Can you call? Nothing? I couldn't 431 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: get calls. Then I finally I said, I got to 432 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: see the same way listening. I said, I am going 433 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: to give away five hundred dollars to the first caller. 434 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: I got nothing. I got no calls, And I said, okay, well, 435 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: now I know I'm talking to myself. But in your 436 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: first jobs in radio week stations, you know you you 437 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: know there's no one listening, and you why am I here? 438 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: But it's good training ground for your next job when 439 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: you hope to have a listener. Yeah, for sure. I 440 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: remember one time I was doing a show at one 441 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: of the first stations I worked at and it was 442 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: like Christmas weekend and it was Christmas had following week. 443 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: It was it was during the weekend. It was early morning, 444 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: and we had the same conversation. I was doing a 445 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: show with another guy. We're like, what are we doing here? 446 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: You know? And then he had the idea because that 447 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: was before you know, Christmas, right before the Rose Bowl, 448 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: and he said, h he said, I'm gonna get on 449 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: the air and I'm gonna say, hey, I'm gonna tell 450 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: you we have some Rose Ball tickes. I'm gona tell 451 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: you how to get Rose Bowl tickets. Call right now. 452 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: And we actually got a couple of people to call up. 453 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: The problem was, Mikey, we had no Rose Bowl tickets. Yeah, 454 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: we have a winner, thanks for calling. Yeah. No. So 455 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: what he did was he said, Okay, I'm gonna tell 456 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 1: you how you can get Rose Bowl tickets and he 457 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: gave out the number to a ticket broker. That there 458 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: was a sponsor the radio station, but you actually had 459 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,439 Speaker 1: to come through with the prize. Uh, well, we know 460 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: we didn't actually give the pride you know he gave 461 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: the number to call to buy tickets for the Rose Bowl. 462 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, no, we had no budget. Come on 463 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: please he got he got a free plug out of it. Yeah, exactly. 464 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: The thing is too, you know when I finally got 465 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: to a real station, w p o P in Hartford, Connecticut, 466 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: was it was actually had listeners. My first night on 467 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: the air, I was doing a contest and I was 468 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: supposed to play the cart. You know, they make a 469 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: guess at which w P o P dj A is 470 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: the uh is the right one to win? Take it's 471 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 1: the tennis room cuple in with it. So I had 472 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: a cart and I played the cart, but the pot 473 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: was down so it didn't play, And so I said 474 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: ship and it went over the air. You know, my 475 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: first night, and I'm like, oh, this is great. I 476 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: finally get a job at real radio stage. The first 477 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: thing I do is I say ship on me on 478 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 1: me Uh that's uh, that is that is the wonder 479 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: when I one of my first jobs. I've told the 480 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 1: story on the on the podcast where I was an engineer. 481 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: I started out. I did a little bit everything. I 482 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: was a producer. I was at a board op. Did 483 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: you have to run your own board when you were 484 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: doing that stuff. Yeah, back in the day, I used 485 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: to findly, I used to find a call my program 486 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: the Dead Air Show. Well, you always you were DJ 487 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: right when you first started. So did you have the 488 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: long song when you had to take a dump? Every 489 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 1: DJ had the long song when you could pick. Yeah, 490 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: when you could pick, what was your long song that 491 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: you would go to? Well, you know, every Thanksgiving we 492 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: would do. Uh. You know, I didn't want to get 493 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 1: into any seecal issues, but I got a good story here. 494 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: They the Alice's Restaurant was eighteen minutes long. So Thanksgiving 495 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: everybody plays and you hear the rock stations they always 496 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,919 Speaker 1: played with Rlo Guffey's Alice's Restaurant. That's so they can 497 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: go to the bathroom and take their post Thanksgiving dumps. 498 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 1: That's really what out talk about the reality of the song. 499 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: It's about making sure that they can take the proper dump. 500 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 1: So you know, everybody would come back on the men's room. 501 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if let's get into this, but this 502 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: is true story. They said they would describe, you know, 503 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: their Thanksgiving dump, which is disgusting. But one guy came 504 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: back to the bathroom I submitted, he would gone a 505 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: long time, you know, he says, I he goes. I 506 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: took a dump that was so big that one end 507 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: of it was crammed down the toilet hole and the 508 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: other I had to stand up to get the rest 509 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: of it out. I have. I have my own poop 510 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: story I can share with you. Mike, you want to 511 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: hear a radio I love it. It's poop talk. Welcome 512 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: to Ben Mallory's Date. So when I started at Kiss 513 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: A M in l A. Now, do you know who 514 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,919 Speaker 1: are you familiar with? Rick D's the DJ he's been 515 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:17,719 Speaker 1: Big d Duck. Yeah, exactly, exactly, Disco Duck. He had 516 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: a TV show late night. But Rick D's was a 517 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: legend morning guy in l A and one of the 518 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: nicest people I ever met in radio. But D's was 519 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: a huge star, and he had massive ratings and all 520 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: this stuff. And and so when we started, it was 521 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: like you know, walking around Royalty you know. Rick D's 522 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: at that time was a big deal in the radio business. 523 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: And so but he had his own private bathroom and 524 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: only Rick ds could could go to the bathroom in 525 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: that In that thought, so one of the DJs that 526 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: Kiss FM, they were all piste off because the other 527 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: bathroom was down the hall. He had to walk down 528 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: all that stuff. So Mikey handed got so one of 529 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: the DJ's got a copy of the key to the 530 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: bathroom and then he he went down to like one 531 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: of the home depot or something, and he got copies 532 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 1: of it and passed I got a key. Everyone who 533 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: worked on that floor, All the on air guys got 534 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: keys two D's bathroom, which was fine, And the rule 535 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: was he had to clean up sods wouldn't know you're there. 536 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: But it's no big deal because he was only there 537 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: in the mornings. In the morning. So anyway, one of 538 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: the hosts of the sports station had apparently eaten something 539 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: that was a little um let's just say, yeah, it 540 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: was something was rotting in his his stomach. Mikey and 541 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,840 Speaker 1: and he went in there and it was such a 542 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 1: long time on the toilet there that dropping the deuce 543 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: that he missed like an entire segment of his show 544 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: because he was taking care of the poop and the 545 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: smell was so bad that this was in the aftern 546 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: This was in the afternoon, Mikey on it was like 547 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: I remember it was on a Wednesday, when Rick D's 548 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: got back on a Tuesday, he had by the time, 549 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: has shifted in it. He had brought a locksmith in 550 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: to change the lock because the smell was still there 551 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: and he he knew he knew that that people have 552 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: infiltrated his space in the shipter has been his waste problem, 553 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: no questions. Remember Nick Rabbits, Yes, yeah, yeah, absolutely, Well 554 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: when he pitched, he was six six you know, to 555 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: two seventy big man. When he stopped pitching, he was 556 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: six six five and the guy told eat you know, 557 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: I mean he was the monster. They called him the monster. 558 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: He was unbelievable. He came back. He used to do 559 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: Mike and the Monster Show with me on Sunday Mornings 560 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: Baseball Show. And he came back one time and for 561 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: a long break, I thought he disappeared. He came back. 562 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: He was all sweaty. I said, where have you been? 563 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: He goes, I just took a ship and looked like 564 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: a statue of Here was Sullivan. He did one. It 565 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: was famous. The w e I two because he think 566 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: I was big. He went in there. He's just spoke 567 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: butts in there. He going to the stall and smoke cigarettes. 568 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: So he had done. This thing looked like I don't know, 569 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: your mom's meatloath. It was huge. It was like a giant, 570 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: say in the toilet, and it wouldn't flush. Even though 571 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 1: we had those hydraulics suck it down the tuber you 572 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: know type of it wouldn't flush. It kept spinning around. 573 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: Every time you'd flush, it was just spin. So guys 574 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: were going in there, and Rabbits kept going back in 575 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: there during his breaks and putting on his cigarette butts 576 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: in it, so it looked like a birthday cake. It 577 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: was on the people were going to the sales department 578 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: of the EILA. Everybody goes, come here quick, you gotta 579 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: see this sight. Bring your camera, and people were doing 580 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: pictures of it. You know, radio legendary radio turns is 581 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. That's a piece of art. At 582 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: that point. Now I give him credit, at least for 583 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: trying to flush it. My problem is when you go 584 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: to an airport, Mikey, and there's always that guy. I 585 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: hope you, hopefully you're not that guy, Mikey, that is 586 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: so proud of what they've done. They don't flush. They 587 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: want the next person to enjoy their piece of art 588 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: that they have left in the toilet in the in 589 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: the porta porta potty there, and it's very in And 590 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: that happens because you get the feeling that that's the 591 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: greatest and only thing anyone ever created. When they're that 592 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: proud of it, it's it's three days exact a mondo, 593 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: exact a momento. And the radio business is notorious for 594 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: certain things, and and and and clearly you know that's 595 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: one of them. But what radio business is really known 596 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: for the best? I think, Ben, and you know you're 597 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: notorious being a really great guy and not a backstabbing weasel. 598 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 1: But when I when I worked with a lot of 599 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: backstabbing weasels, you know, And that's when it really gets fun, 600 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: because you know, you're trying to maintain on the air, 601 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: you know, some kind of conversational relationship with people, and 602 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: you know that they, you know, two hours before we're 603 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: in the boss's office trying to get your fired. So 604 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: what was the biggest you I have heard some of 605 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: these stories and I remember you had left and and 606 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: I came in there and some of the guys were 607 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: telling me, Bikey Adams, what was who is your biggest nemesis? 608 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: You would say, uh, do you have one or two 609 00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: that stand out over the years that you're like, man, 610 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: that guy. Man. I've just got this recently too. I 611 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: I think I get along pretty good with everybody. But 612 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, there was a guy came along, Kirk Minahan. 613 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: He came to EI and basically he was a poison pill. 614 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: He started ripping everybody out in the air and just 615 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: being nasty and strange and uh, you know, narcissistic and 616 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: and he was just a mean spirited person. So he 617 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: was a guy that really kind of got me fired 618 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: at EI after twenty three years. And he did it 619 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: very well. He was very good at it um and 620 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: but I hated him. I still do. He's a he's 621 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: a jerk, but he he has he's off the air now, 622 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: he's no longer there. He's got he's got a podcast. 623 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: Don't we all have podcasts? Ben, Yeah, that's the that's 624 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: our future. I mean, what you're doing it now? How's 625 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: your how's your podcast planning? Mikey podcast? And I talked 626 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: a little bit about in the podcast about how how 627 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: many hand what? You know? One day I had a 628 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: fight with him in the hallway, not a fight, but 629 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: he I walked past him I didn't say hello. He 630 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: goes ROA, you don't talk to me. No, what's the 631 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: matter you are? You don't talk to me? I said, 632 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: you know, to be honest with you, Kirk, I said, 633 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: nobody likes you and you're an asshole. So he he says, 634 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure my kids like me. And I said, 635 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: give him time. Oh no. So starting that next morning, 636 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: he went off on me on the morning show. Three 637 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: weeks later, I was I was fired. So was it 638 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: was he just doing was he nicely off here and 639 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,640 Speaker 1: then on the area would kill you before that? Or 640 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: he was just what he was really not that nice 641 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: to anybody? Uh, you know, I mean, good for him, 642 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 1: he can go do whatever he wants to. But here 643 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: I was there a long time. He just kind of 644 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: ruined it, you know, And so so I said, happens 645 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 1: on radio. You gotta get used to that kind of thing. 646 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: Generally speaking. You know, you can assume you're gonna get 647 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: fired by somebody eventually, and then you're gonna move on 648 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: to the next job. You know, that's just the way 649 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,719 Speaker 1: it is. But you don't I last him forty eight 650 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: years in a business where a lot of people don't, 651 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 1: And so I got that going for me. You know. No, 652 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: you're I'm a big Mikey Adam saying I grew up 653 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: in the West Coast Mikey. But I love, I love. 654 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: I actually saw you on TV on the satellite. I 655 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: don't what was it started with an end any e 656 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: n see something? Yeah? Yeah, New England you New England, 657 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: New England cab. Yeah you did that and you were 658 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 1: part of one of the great bloopers? Was it that 659 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: that I saw this on the end of you you 660 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: got attacked by a camera, right, there was an out 661 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: of control camera. Explain what happened. It's on YouTube. I'm 662 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: sure people can track it down if they want to 663 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: see this. Yeah, we had a live you know, that's 664 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: the thing. It was live. There was no there was 665 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: no what taped. Portion of it was all straight ahead 666 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: of live with phone calls then. And you know how 667 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: that is. If you do a show with non't tape 668 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,479 Speaker 1: delay and you're taking live phone calls, you're gonna get 669 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,480 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff happening to you. And we that 670 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: happened all the time. People call up and they'd say, 671 00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: uh hey Mike, they go fuck you. So we had 672 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 1: to be ready for that. But the people pople you're 673 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: talking about on any Scar and Dick Clark played it 674 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: for America's Funny has played it. It It was. It was 675 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: around for a while because what had happened was we 676 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 1: had robotic cameras were controlled in the in the control 677 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: room by people, and one of them just went bronchos 678 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: right in the middle of a sting We're doing, have 679 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 1: a conversation, all of a sudden, this giant, thousand pound 680 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: robotic camera comes charging the mound like like you know, 681 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: like I pitched him inside and pushed the entire set. 682 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: You know, it was crazy, and no one knew was 683 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: we don't gonna get crushed, but you know, we obviously 684 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,920 Speaker 1: through to a break. But they people thought that was 685 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: funny around the country, and Dick Clark showed it about 686 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: seven times, the attack of the robotic Well, I remember 687 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: your your reaction was outstanding though, like you you were 688 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: perfect the way you didn't like you you were like, 689 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: what's going on? But you didn't totally like run away 690 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: or anyway. It was great. Yeah, yeah, I ended up 691 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: danger danger Will Robinson, here comes the camera. But we 692 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: had a lot of moments like that, you know, we 693 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: had we had because it was live and see that 694 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: that's what gave it more excitement. When you live, you 695 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 1: don't know what people are gonna say to you, you know. Uh, 696 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: and that's that gives you a little more I don't know, 697 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:21,919 Speaker 1: adrenaline when you're doing a show like that. But yeah, 698 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,839 Speaker 1: there remained there for six years, that show one, two 699 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: or three Emmy's. And uh the problem was, like I said, 700 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: though high high death, I mean, I don't look good 701 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: on camera. So I got back in the radio quickly 702 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: after that show ended after six years. Yeah, and the 703 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: the guy he worked was unless I heard he was 704 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: in New York, right, the Bill Peto I think was 705 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: his name is. Yeah, he was on ESPN for years. 706 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: So he did the did the Weekend with Chris Berman, 707 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,879 Speaker 1: the NFL show for Peto's great and everybody didn't well 708 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: accept me, Ben, No, come on, you were the star 709 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: of w E I Planet, Mike, What are you talking 710 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 1: about here? Uh? Now I did listen. I want you 711 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: to know, Mikey, I was just I was trying to 712 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: track you down. I knew you. We were Twitter friends, 713 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 1: so we have that and you've been very nice on Twitter. 714 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: So I I went and I looked at your podcast, 715 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: and I did listen and I was blown. You were working. 716 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: I don't think you are anymore, but you worked as 717 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: a lift driver. Is that you talked about it on 718 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: That wasn't bullshit? That was real? Right? No. I still 719 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: do that actually, because that's the only way I have 720 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: to meet chicks. Now. I said, y'all, get you right here, 721 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: where are you going? Uh? And then here you find 722 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: out it's not even even a woman. So like he said, 723 00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 1: oh my god, what have I done? But the thing 724 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: is that, Uh, I do that because I have just 725 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: a podcast that till it takes me a couple of 726 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,839 Speaker 1: hours a week. So I get bored. I have two 727 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: sons in there, two you know, once twelve one sixteen. 728 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: I wait for them to get over to school, and 729 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: I got nothing to do. I'm moved to watch Judge 730 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: Judy read runs. So I go out on the lift 731 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: drive and it gives me great stories to tell him 732 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: the podcast. And it's not about the money. It's really 733 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: about you know, I got I got a two thousand 734 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 1: six Mercury Grand Marquis that's in mint condition. And the 735 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: eighty five year old ladies man, they can't take their 736 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: eyes off you. You You're a dream boat, is what 737 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: you are. Oh they look at that gun, shout out 738 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: what a nice party. Has anyone puked in your car 739 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 1: even you were driving? Will? No, I've never. Luckily, I've 740 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: never had that. And left driving is a weird thing, man, 741 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: because you know, honestly, you hear some stuff. I mean, 742 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: I picked up I picked up a bank robbert, not 743 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: when he was robbing the bank, but he was telling 744 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 1: me about how he had done time for robbing a bank. 745 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: I picked up prostitutes. Uh. And I make everybody get 746 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,800 Speaker 1: in the back. I don't want anybody in the front 747 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: with me, you know. Yeah, well you're the star, do they? 748 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: Does anyone recognize that was Wait a minute, I recognized 749 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: that voice. I yeah, I've had that happen. One guy 750 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: in the back, he says, anyone ever tell you you 751 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,920 Speaker 1: look at the guy that did sports on TV. And 752 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 1: I looked back and I said, I hear that all 753 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: the time. That's great. So you just you're in it 754 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: for this the stories, right, I just want to, you know, 755 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: hang out. It's about it. It's not about money with me. 756 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: I'm not a capitalist pig. I just want to don't 757 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: want to be bored. So I fill in the gaps 758 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: with that. I got the podcast actually been I got 759 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: two podcasts. Now I got another one called fifteen Minutes 760 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: of Shame, whereby in fifteen minutes we ripped the living 761 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: trap out of everybody that deserves it. Uh. You know, 762 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: this week was well Cam Newton, you know for his comments, 763 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: that was brilliant. But we we uh we do that 764 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: podcast fifteam is a shame And you know, as they say, 765 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: it's available wherever you get your podcasts. And I will 766 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: make sure, Mikey that we will want to use that line. 767 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 1: Wherever you get your podcast. I get Minded, I get 768 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 1: that Minded dollar general exactly exactly. Uh, in my rightful 769 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: through trash cans looking for deposit bottles and sometimes I 770 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,160 Speaker 1: find a podcast in there. Yeah, no, I I I 771 00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 1: hear you, man. I I will put all of that 772 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:05,439 Speaker 1: in the description on this podcast so we can have 773 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: the people that enjoy the fifth Hour with Ben Maller 774 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: and the from the Overnight Show and all that they 775 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 1: will be able to enjoy the Planet Mike experience. I'm 776 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: sure you have plenty of sponsors, Mikey, right, you're gonna, 777 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna go. And when I the podcast, I heard 778 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: you were talking about nuts dot com. I think that 779 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: was the one you were you're looking for you Did 780 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 1: you hear what happened to me with with this with 781 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: the pistachios. No, I did not. What happened all right, 782 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: I'll just quickly tell you this. I bought a big 783 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: giant bag of wonderful they're called wonderful pistachios, and they 784 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 1: had shells on them. So I'm opening them up one night. 785 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm watching the TV and I'm opening up these pistachios 786 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: here and both my thumbs and all of a sudden, 787 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: I see this worm crawl across my desk. I'm like, wait, wait, 788 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,400 Speaker 1: well and then I look at this. I opened up 789 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: another one. There's another worm. This bag of pistachios, every 790 00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: single nut had worms breeding inside right the shell. So 791 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: I brought I closed the package up real quick. I 792 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: brought it into the podcast and I had another Ben 793 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: Ben Kitchen, who's on the podcast. I said, open up 794 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: all these. He opened up. There's twenty worms, the little 795 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: green meal worms, and they were inside and the statues. 796 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: I hadn't realized that I was eating them, you know, 797 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: I wonder why they were chewy and not so crunchy. 798 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 1: So I wrote a nasty note to excuse me wonderful pstaches, 799 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,799 Speaker 1: and I said, you know it's not my favorite thing 800 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: to do to eat worms. You bag this bag and 801 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: I sent him the coat on the back. They sent 802 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 1: me twenty dollars refund on the on the nuts. But meanwhile, 803 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: now I can't even look at a pistachio nut without 804 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: thinking worm. And it was so My My thought is 805 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to get a sponsor that's a nut 806 00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: company that doesn't have worms. Yeah, that's brilliant. Absolutely. I 807 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 1: want to get him off the Wonderful and onto the 808 00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: nuts dot Com. I mean forgot say, I've had nuts 809 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: my home life. You were born with him. I think 810 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: that one too, exactly. All right, Well, Mike you listen, 811 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 1: you're the man. I will. I will be putting your 812 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 1: podcast in my rotate. I love listen to your bullshit 813 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: with the guys there and everyone that. It was great, Ben, 814 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: and you look great since I met you. You've lost 815 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what a hundred two hundred pounds before 816 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: I forget Mikey. Remember we went bar hopping together after 817 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,279 Speaker 1: that show. You were you knew everyone. I mean, you 818 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: were such a you're such a made man in Boston, Mike. 819 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: I remember that we were going to different bars. I mean, 820 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:39,439 Speaker 1: how does he know every bartender's name. It was unbelievable. Yeah, 821 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: it was for most of them. But yeah, we had 822 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: a good time. You're a good man, You're doing a 823 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,719 Speaker 1: great job, and you're you know, you're bad your nationwide 824 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: you all that. But I want to wish you continue 825 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 1: good luck, and the key thing with you and everybody 826 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: that wants to be successful in this business be yourself 827 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: and if your personality is great as yours, will carry 828 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 1: it through. Buddy, You're the man. Thanks Mikey, you got it.