WEBVTT - NFL PLAYOFF BETTING PREDICTIONS

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Sharper Square, presented by hard Rock bet. We

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<v Speaker 1>betting show that makes the squares. Sharper makes the wise

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<v Speaker 1>guys pay attention. I am Chad Milman. I am joined

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<v Speaker 1>as I am for every show by my co host,

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<v Speaker 1>my bff, my companion, mikeel Padre professional Better Simon Hunter

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<v Speaker 1>Eto Simon Chad.

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<v Speaker 2>As we turn this page after our brutal World Cup

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<v Speaker 2>loss last night, thank god for only what four weeks

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<v Speaker 2>away from our first preseason the game, I think Adam

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<v Speaker 2>Schefter tweeted, so it did what it needed to do.

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<v Speaker 2>It killed us a month of time and we only

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<v Speaker 2>have to make another month work until we have some.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, it's been amazing and like, I really love the

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<v Speaker 1>collective experience that everyone's been sharing with the World Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been so much fun to watch such a brutal

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<v Speaker 1>loss last night. Bad bad mistakes, you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>love about it. I don't know if you can see this, Simon.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you're wearing World Cup paraphernalia. I right now

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<v Speaker 1>am wearing a Tottenham Hotspur T shirt and I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to tell you why I'm wearing that, Because I was

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<v Speaker 1>with my family, my sister and her family and my

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<v Speaker 1>wife and our two boys went away for a few

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<v Speaker 1>days and me and my two guys were hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>and we were all talking about the World Cup. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, my younger son is a huge sports fan.

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<v Speaker 1>My other son has never been a sports fan, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's gotten really into the World Cup. Even before he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I feel like, I love soccer. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know more about the World Cups. We've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it for a while. And then we were all

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out while we were away and they were both like,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish we had a way to engage with soccer,

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<v Speaker 1>like a soccer team to root for all year long.

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<v Speaker 1>And we settled on you know, EPL and we decided

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<v Speaker 1>these were the criteria. You can tell me what you

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<v Speaker 1>think of this. We decided we had to go with

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<v Speaker 1>a team in London because if we visit London, we

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<v Speaker 1>want to be able to go watch the game. We

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<v Speaker 1>decided we didn't want to do like you know, Arsenal

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<v Speaker 1>or Chelsea, because we want to root for teams that

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<v Speaker 1>like our bandwagon teams. That's like rooting for the Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>in the US. We wanted a team that was a

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<v Speaker 1>lot like rooting for the Cubs or the Bears. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we settled on Tottenham Hotspur and I've gone through

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<v Speaker 1>the history. I love the history. I love that hot

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<v Speaker 1>Spur is the name of a knight from Shakespeare. I

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<v Speaker 1>love that it was started by schoolboys hanging out together.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that they go up and down, up and down.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're kind of hard luck losers. So I'm all in.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all in, Go Spurs go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that's a pretty American team, the Spurs,

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<v Speaker 2>So I would say you're very on brand most Americans that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know. It's it's it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of funny where Americans, for some reason gravitate towards

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<v Speaker 2>the Spurs.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's further Jerseys or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>For a second ear they say west Ham, which was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get me really fired up. That's a true no

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<v Speaker 2>one knows underground, great London club. But yeah, like you

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<v Speaker 2>can't go wrong my Like we talked about this World Cup,

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<v Speaker 2>honestly has been a dream as a fan. I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>the Americans to be engaged. They're heavily engaged. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Seeen Coward do forty minutes on soccer insane. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if how long people followed Calrot's career, but you

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<v Speaker 2>would have told Coward ten years ago he would spend

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<v Speaker 2>forty minutes breaking out never never, never never.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is what I want.

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<v Speaker 2>This has been my dream, and I talked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a culture thing, right, America. You just got the

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<v Speaker 2>You just got the crappy smack Daddy by Belgium. That

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<v Speaker 2>was the worst game we could possibly play. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be so upset overrated.

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<v Speaker 3>It just it happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, We're playing against a team that has players who

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<v Speaker 2>played in these big games before. You will say it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have that. That's part of the growing process, part

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<v Speaker 2>of building the culture. But yeah, aways tell Americans the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing America is missing is we don't have our

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<v Speaker 2>Messa yet. We don't have our Harry Kane. We need

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<v Speaker 2>a striker, a top that has this god given ability

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<v Speaker 2>to score.

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<v Speaker 3>And you've seen it.

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<v Speaker 2>There's four or five guys in this World Cup that

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<v Speaker 2>when they have that ball, it just feels like they're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna score. We've never experienced that as a country. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's I don't know if it's twenty years away now,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's ten years away. Maybe it's the next World

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<v Speaker 2>Cup chat, but that's what we need as a country

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<v Speaker 2>to move forward right this round of sixteen. Buffer We're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna keep hitting it. Even if we won this game

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<v Speaker 2>against Belgium, who is our next round against Spain.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's it's a tough. It's tough right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But as a fan seeing American embrace it, see the

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<v Speaker 2>country embrace the World Cup, it's fun as a gambler,

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<v Speaker 2>a ton to bet on. And yeah, it's like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just such heartbreak. I'm still not over it. Like

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<v Speaker 2>even last night I could barely sleep. Or it's like

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<v Speaker 2>I thought we were gonna win. I really thought, honestly

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna beat Belgium. So it's gonna take me a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit. But like right now, pulse like Christian Poulsik,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so bitter. I'm just really bitter. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say too much mean stuff and I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>positive about it, but they just laid down like a

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<v Speaker 2>dead dog in that game. I'm so mad about how

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<v Speaker 2>they played and how it all worked out. But thank

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<v Speaker 2>god we have football to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Brother. You mentioned Harry Kaye, former Tottenham hospital legend, legend.

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<v Speaker 1>Harry Kay, Harry Kay. We do have football to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to talk about soccer. Next week We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have du Bundo back on to talk some soccer.

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<v Speaker 1>We're also going to have Shonzailla to talk about mid

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<v Speaker 1>season baseball. But this week today we are talking about

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<v Speaker 1>some really cool NFL early prediction markets we can lean into.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean prediction markets, I mean markets that hard

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<v Speaker 1>Rock bat has up right now, especially some playoff markets

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to give out some of our favorites

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<v Speaker 1>on today. We have no episode on Thursday. Everyone's taking

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a break. Next week. Like I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>we have Zarillo, we have Da Bundo. After that, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>all football, all the time, beginning of football beginning July

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<v Speaker 1>twenty first, Ben Solac from ESPN. I love the guy,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. Last year I mentioned his stuff on the

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<v Speaker 1>show all the time, so I'm excited that he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be coming on the twenty first. Then it's our

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<v Speaker 1>top ten QBS episode. Then we'll go into our division

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<v Speaker 1>by division preview episodes. Get freaking ready because the other

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<v Speaker 1>football leaves and this football comes in. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>Harder Rock has a ton of markets out right now,

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowl Conference, in division futures. Obviously they got win totals.

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<v Speaker 1>You can bet on every team's stage of elimination, you

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<v Speaker 1>can bet on divisional finishing positions, exact order props, all that. So, Simon,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have to be that organized here. Why don't

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<v Speaker 1>you kick it off? Before we jumped on the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you had some ideas, So what are some things you're

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about? I know you mentioned the Bears. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to start with the Bears? I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you were just trying to sort of, you know, speak

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<v Speaker 1>to my passions, or was the Bears a real thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Or what do you want to start here?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's start with the easiest secor exercise, which is

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<v Speaker 2>every year we look at last year's playoff teams. That

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<v Speaker 2>should always be your baseline, right, this is what the

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<v Speaker 2>league is. There's a lot of turnover, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of who's out exactly who's in, who's out. It's very dumb,

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds very basic, but we have the data. Every

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<v Speaker 2>year three to four teams from the previous year won't

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<v Speaker 2>make it. If you would have told me and Chad

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<v Speaker 2>last year, the Chiefs can be one of those three

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<v Speaker 2>or four teams, I would have been shocked. I think

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<v Speaker 2>Chad would have been shocked. So that's the best part

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<v Speaker 2>about doing this is like you really don't know. Like

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<v Speaker 2>telling me the Chiefs, the Bills, and the Ravens weren't

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<v Speaker 2>going to win their divisions last year, I would have

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<v Speaker 2>been pretty shocked.

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<v Speaker 3>None of them won their divisions.

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<v Speaker 2>So just going back last year the one Seeds, if

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<v Speaker 2>you remember the go in the Seattle, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>about you. Do you think both of them are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make it? I think both of them are gonna playoffs, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>But I will tell you this, I don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>great feeling about the Patriots. I would not be Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a big believer in schedule and I'm a big

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<v Speaker 1>believer in the challenges of a new schedule. It's why

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<v Speaker 1>when we talk about the Bears, I'm not that high

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bears going into this season. I think Minnesota's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be better. I think Detroit's going to be better.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Green Bay is going to be better. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they've got a challenging schedule. I think the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing about the Patriots, Like obviously they got to contend

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<v Speaker 1>with the Bills, but they're gonna have a much harder

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<v Speaker 1>schedule this year. If we're talking right off the top,

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<v Speaker 1>would I would like the Patriots. I got to find their.

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<v Speaker 3>Odds here the miss playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I would not be uncomfortable taking a little taste of

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots of plus one fifty.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why we're doing this exercise people.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, the Patriots a two seat from last year,

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<v Speaker 2>so you have them out and just let's just finish

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<v Speaker 2>the AFC. The Steelers, I think we both agree. If

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna kick someone out, it's guy. Yes, yes, they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're at the back end. Chargers, Jaguars, you want

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<v Speaker 2>to kick either of them out yet?

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<v Speaker 3>Or no? Right, a little tougher on those two, so

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<v Speaker 3>we'll keep a moving.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the space going the NFC also felt tough. It

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<v Speaker 2>felt like the Bears and the Panthers are the really

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<v Speaker 2>two ones that jump out right away. Yeah, teams you

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<v Speaker 2>can easily see missing the playoffs. Now, Packers, you know

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<v Speaker 2>they could, Eagles, they could, right, but just right away

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<v Speaker 2>in the first two I looked at was Panthers, and obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you know we love the Bears.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I want to start with.

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<v Speaker 2>You chat with your Bears, they're plus one oh five,

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<v Speaker 2>which again that's the book telling you this is one

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<v Speaker 2>of the teams on the outside looking in because what

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<v Speaker 2>you just talked about, the everything broke their way. They

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<v Speaker 2>got the two seed where you at chat plus one

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<v Speaker 2>oh five to make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be betting against the Bears to make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not high on the Bears. Look, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just in Chicago. Unfortunately a close friend his father passed away,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was in Chicago and this guy, everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who listens to the show knows, my buddy, Matt. His

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<v Speaker 1>father passed away, and I grew up going to Bears

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<v Speaker 1>games with Matt and his family because they had season

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<v Speaker 1>tickets to the Bears for the entirety of my life,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I went to every home game when I

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<v Speaker 1>was growing up, all through high school with Matt and

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<v Speaker 1>his mom and dad, and his dad was such a

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<v Speaker 1>rabid Bears fan that it was a constant conversation. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt and his dad and one of his three kids,

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<v Speaker 1>who was a massive Bears fan. They would text about

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<v Speaker 1>the games all the time, and so I had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of Bears talk. This weekend. At one point when

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<v Speaker 1>his Matt's oldest kid was eulogizing his grandfather. He started

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<v Speaker 1>talking about his love for the Bears, and at one

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<v Speaker 1>point the grandson, who did a magnificent job, like everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was just so charmed by his eulogy and how well

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<v Speaker 1>he did, started talking about like he goes, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we got our quarterback. Now, I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>on the upswing. This could be the year. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost like, for a second he lost himself and started

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<v Speaker 1>to give a Bear Scout report in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the eulogy for his grandfather. But that's how much passion

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<v Speaker 1>there is for this team in this city right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Everywhere I went, every event I was at over the

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<v Speaker 1>weekend with family, all anyone could do was talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears. I hate to be the guy raining on

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<v Speaker 1>the parade, but I'm worried. I'm worried about this team.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's too much competition. I think they had

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<v Speaker 1>the exact right spot last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just I couldn't believe I saw the number

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<v Speaker 2>because I think that's very telling him by the books,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's I feel like that's them saying we'll take

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<v Speaker 2>your sucker money because they know how much money they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to get from Bears fans.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of the biggest fans bases in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>They're gonna get a ton of it. And I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>shocked that they think the first year. Yes, I agree

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<v Speaker 2>they overachieved, but to me, if Caleb keeps progressing in

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<v Speaker 2>this offense, you guys are gonna have a stacked offense.

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<v Speaker 2>My question is your defense when it comes to the Bears,

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<v Speaker 2>like Colos and Lovely might be a top three tight

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<v Speaker 2>end like bro See where Luther can be a wide

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<v Speaker 2>receiver vision. But I am really excited about this Bears

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<v Speaker 2>team if Caleb can take that next step. Because Caleb

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<v Speaker 2>all the time in the world, and you saw all

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<v Speaker 2>those comebacks last year, can he be consistent for those

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<v Speaker 2>first three quarters?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what was lacking. You guys were so inconsistent for

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<v Speaker 3>the first three quarters of those games.

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<v Speaker 2>I think of all the rabbits you pulled out of

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<v Speaker 2>his ass and all, yeah, you guys came back in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth quarter and that was your defense too. Insane

0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:45.520
<v Speaker 2>amount of turnovers. So Chad's right between the turnover luck

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<v Speaker 2>the overachievement people expecting to miss it. I wouldn't touch

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<v Speaker 2>this one. I'll be honest, I just don't. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like the number. Uh It's like I wanted to bet

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<v Speaker 2>on the yes. So I'm happy to hear you say no.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm happy to pass on. So my first first

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<v Speaker 2>one that jumped.

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<v Speaker 1>Out on yes to make the playoffs plus one oh five?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Yeah, yes to make the playoffs. Okay, we already

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<v Speaker 2>talked about the Rams that missed the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, butit hold on, hold on, because we highlighted the Patriots,

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<v Speaker 1>we highlighted the Bears'. Let's dip in for a second

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<v Speaker 1>on the Panthers because you mentioned them. We've talked about

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<v Speaker 1>them a lot on the show already and their season

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<v Speaker 1>win totals. But it seems like you were hinting at before.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to close the loop on this before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to the Rams. You were hinting at the

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<v Speaker 1>Panthers being a team that you could see not making

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. I'm looking at their odds right now, No,

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<v Speaker 1>to make the playoffs. They are a minus three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>to not make the playoffs, are a plus two thirty

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<v Speaker 1>to make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>This correlates with a bet I want to make off.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna go, I was gonna come back the pitch.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a better bet, a team I want to bet

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<v Speaker 2>on making the playoffs, and that's the Saints.

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<v Speaker 3>So everyone knows we love Shuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, if we expect this Panthers team with the number

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<v Speaker 2>one they they won their division last years to playing

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<v Speaker 2>a first play schedule, it's easy to think they will

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<v Speaker 2>take regression and miss the playoffs because of that. Who knows, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they've done well this offseason. Maybe Bryce Shung does take

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<v Speaker 2>the next step and they do make the playoffs. But

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<v Speaker 2>just as a betting man, I don't like those odds.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Chad just said, it's minus three hundred to miss.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to take Whenever I'm looking at bet these,

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<v Speaker 2>I want a plus number. If I'm locking my money

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<v Speaker 2>for six months. That's why I go to the Saints

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<v Speaker 2>with Shuck. The Saints have a pretty good defense.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked it. In the draft they went after the

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<v Speaker 3>wide receiver position.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've talked a little bit about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's who knows if Shuck's the real deal? Right the

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<v Speaker 2>their schedule last year broke very fable with him, but

0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.520
<v Speaker 2>he didn't make big time throws. He did get more

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<v Speaker 2>couporbable with Kellen Moore's offenses, He's don't won along at

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<v Speaker 2>plus two hundred. For the fact that they're playing in

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<v Speaker 2>a weak division. The Bucks and still win the division.

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<v Speaker 2>The Saints could steal that seventh seed. I don't hate

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<v Speaker 2>those odds. So that's what as I told the Panthers,

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<v Speaker 2>I could see them being one of the teams that

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<v Speaker 2>move out. The Bucks are a team they easily could

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<v Speaker 2>move in. I think the Saints are sneaky team we

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<v Speaker 2>can move in as well. And the Bucks don't have

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<v Speaker 2>that great of odds, So I prefer if I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to play came in this division in the NFC South.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that. I like that Saint's odds that plus

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred. That's actually come down.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of books were showing up plus two forty

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<v Speaker 2>hard rock now plus two hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that a lot. Would you parlay Saint Tes Panthers?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't hate that. That's fun. That is fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't. I We'll talk about it. But Chad News

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<v Speaker 3>I like to do. I like the divisional chalk when

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<v Speaker 3>I do these type of parlays.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I got burned.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year, but it was the first year and five

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<v Speaker 2>years I got burned by the Chiefs. The Chiefs were

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<v Speaker 2>basically a lock for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Every year.

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<v Speaker 2>I like, say, I liked the Saints to win their division,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd put them in a two team or with the Chiefs.

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<v Speaker 2>The Chiefs were just my anchor, just because every year

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<v Speaker 2>the Chiefs was in the division. Obviously it's a little

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<v Speaker 2>different now, right, that's that's kind of as awesome, So

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<v Speaker 2>we can close out with that those type of bets.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I don't know if I had parlay, you

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<v Speaker 2>are getting great odds. But yeah, just for a standalone,

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<v Speaker 2>I bet that Saints one.

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<v Speaker 1>You were gonna say about the Rams.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Rams one just jumped out. It's plus three

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<v Speaker 2>fifty to not make the playoffs. Like that's if they're

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<v Speaker 2>plus five hundred to win the Super Bowl or plus

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<v Speaker 2>three fifty to miss the playoffs. That's the better option

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<v Speaker 2>to take every time, is to miss the playoffs. The odds,

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<v Speaker 2>all the things should need to break your away. I

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<v Speaker 2>get the hype is so peak right now. They are

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<v Speaker 2>a studed team. They're incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Are they really that much better than the Seahawks? The Eagles?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, all a couple of the forty nine ers,

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<v Speaker 2>these other teams in n FC, the gap is not

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<v Speaker 2>that wide and the sports we're gonna make it out

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<v Speaker 2>that be because it's all built on hype and trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get the public to bet into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Humans have a weird condition where if the rams were

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<v Speaker 2>ten to one, yes, people were betting it. But because

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<v Speaker 2>it's moved up so much more people are betting it right.

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<v Speaker 2>They're They're like, I don't want to miss it more.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to keep moving, So to me, the odds

0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.040
<v Speaker 2>have totally shifted them missing the playoffs. That's where the

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<v Speaker 2>best money is. And Chad was on the last year

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<v Speaker 2>Stafford as much hype and and much love I give

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<v Speaker 2>the guy. He's one bet hit away. His body has

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<v Speaker 2>been through the ringer in Detroit. He's not he's taking

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<v Speaker 2>hits in the rams as well, and he's had you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this popped out of his back. He's had surgeries. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not this young stud. He's like thirty seven, thirty years old,

0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.760
<v Speaker 2>which on football years, he's might as well be fifty

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<v Speaker 2>with all the hits he's taken.

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<v Speaker 3>So I know the hype.

0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Donald's now coming back, supposedly like, it's just building,

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<v Speaker 2>building building. If you don't have a better right now,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I guess a plus three seventy five before the

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<v Speaker 2>season starts. But I just think the pros are gonna

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<v Speaker 2>come in and bet this down. I just can't see

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<v Speaker 2>this getting more. So if you do want to bet

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<v Speaker 2>them to miss the playoffs, you want to parlay that

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<v Speaker 2>with what Chad just talked about. The Bears or the

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<v Speaker 2>Panthers or maybe the Patriots. Those are all fun bets

0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.560
<v Speaker 2>you're getting now. Instead of having, you know, three to one,

0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you can make that at ten to one bet making

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<v Speaker 2>it a parlay.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's a lot of fun stuff you can do

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<v Speaker 3>with this. Rams and missed the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>But who do we think before we go to the break,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to I want to run through all

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<v Speaker 1>the playoff teams and make sure we're not missing anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the Chargers, you mentioned the Jags. The Jags

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<v Speaker 1>are I think I'm gonna get my class year. They're

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<v Speaker 1>minus one twenty to make the playoffs. The Chargers are

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<v Speaker 1>minus one eighty. Look, I love the coaches for both teams.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the quarterback for the Chargers better than the Jags.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way the Chargers, I think their path to improving is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit easier because their offensive line will just

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<v Speaker 1>naturally be better because they're getting players back. But their

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<v Speaker 1>division is so hard. And the Jags, I think their

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<v Speaker 1>division is going to be better, and they found their

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<v Speaker 1>way to victories last year and the path to success.

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<v Speaker 1>But I am not a buyer on Trevor Lawrence. And like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say the Texans are much better. We know, we

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<v Speaker 1>think they'll be better than the Colts. We think that

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<v Speaker 1>the Jags were better than the Titans, but there's a

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<v Speaker 1>path where they're not the best team in their division,

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<v Speaker 1>which couldn't leave them any outside looking in since that

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<v Speaker 1>is the weakest of the divisions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and people forget Texas started what oh and three

0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:23.159
<v Speaker 2>or own four last Yeah, and that was an insane

0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.359
<v Speaker 2>hold to dig themselves out of, which yeah, helped them tremendously.

0:19:26.440 --> 0:19:30.680
<v Speaker 2>The Colts fell apart, which helped the Jacks tremendously. They're

0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:32.720
<v Speaker 2>also have a great coach in lim Combe. I think

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<v Speaker 2>we both really like him.

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<v Speaker 1>I love him. That's that's the thing that that's my

0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:41.879
<v Speaker 1>only hesitancy is can the Liam Cone power be stronger

0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:43.560
<v Speaker 1>than the Trevor Lawrence Power.

0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:47.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and just all the weapons there too. Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I think ETM might have left though, I think he

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<v Speaker 2>went to the Saints.

0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:52.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Tuton is a good running back, like they have other

0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:56.520
<v Speaker 2>guys that can step in there and fill that void. So,

0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, I look at this team and I think

0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.520
<v Speaker 2>they're really talented. Charles Rogers and then we haven't talked

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<v Speaker 2>a ton about it, but Mike McDaniel's probably one of

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<v Speaker 2>the bigger hires.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this guy, for all the weird, quirky stuff he

0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.040
<v Speaker 2>says and does, he's a great offensive mine. He's one

0:20:12.080 --> 0:20:13.920
<v Speaker 2>of the best run blocking teams on all football. He

0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:15.640
<v Speaker 2>knows how to get the most out of his quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's already doing something with Herbert that was one

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<v Speaker 2>of my biggest grapes, which is him holding on the

0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:22.960
<v Speaker 2>ball too much, always looking for that big play.

0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:25.159
<v Speaker 3>He went to have his hands fast. He wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>make the one or two reads and then get it

0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:27.200
<v Speaker 3>out of his hands.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop taking these unnecessary hits, because yes, he's missing an

0:20:30.560 --> 0:20:32.800
<v Speaker 2>offensive line and his offensive line when we're injured last year.

0:20:33.240 --> 0:20:35.480
<v Speaker 2>Herbert's whole career has been that way. He's always tried

0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:38.400
<v Speaker 2>to do too much now that comes from his Oregon days.

0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:39.720
<v Speaker 2>He just he's a playmaker.

0:20:39.800 --> 0:20:41.199
<v Speaker 3>That's who he is. It's built into him.

0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:43.120
<v Speaker 2>Mcdame is trying to beat that out of him, which

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<v Speaker 2>I think is huge for him to try to take

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<v Speaker 2>that next step. So I'm with you, this is really

0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:49.000
<v Speaker 2>hard to pick one of those two to miss the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why didn't give it out. It's I can see

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<v Speaker 2>a path for both of them. One of them is

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<v Speaker 2>going to get knocked out by the Chiefs. If the

0:20:53.720 --> 0:20:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs are who we think they are, they're gonna actually

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<v Speaker 2>gonna bump one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a great question. Chat.

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<v Speaker 2>If I had to pick one, I'm with you it

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<v Speaker 2>probably would be the Jaguars. They just had so much

0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:05.959
<v Speaker 2>break their way last year. Chargers had so many things

0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:08.440
<v Speaker 2>so against them. You only could see more improvement, you know, Minter,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about the Chiefs just for a second before

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<v Speaker 1>the break. We've mentioned them a few times in the conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, I think they are minus two twenty at

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<v Speaker 1>hard Rock to make the playoffs. Obviously, there's assumptions in here.

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<v Speaker 1>There's been a lot of reports about Patrick Mahomes progress

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<v Speaker 1>during the off season, getting back in the field relatively

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<v Speaker 1>quickly from the knee injury. No matter what the expectations

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<v Speaker 1>or this is going to be a playoff team, are

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<v Speaker 1>you buying that expectation?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm drinking as much cool aid as I can

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<v Speaker 2>of it. It's really Yeah, it's just a rare to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's when you come buy a loan the Chiefs. It's

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<v Speaker 2>them coming off a horrible season. I mean, people are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see it. This is the type of year where

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<v Speaker 2>everone's gonna do their list right, top ten teams or

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<v Speaker 2>top thirty two teams in the league. I will be

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<v Speaker 2>shocked to see how many people have the Chiefs in

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<v Speaker 2>their top ten. People are just leaving it for dead.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's how we are in football. It's what did

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<v Speaker 2>we see last happen? Like Chad just said he's not

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<v Speaker 2>a big believer in the Patriots. I saw respected people

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 2>who you know, have thousands of listeners say the Patriots

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<v Speaker 2>are their number five team heading into the season. It's

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 2>just people can't help themselves. Everyone it's recency biased. It's

0:24:32.600 --> 0:24:34.640
<v Speaker 2>like it's just what we do, we want to move

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<v Speaker 2>on to the new shiny toy. The Chiefs are not

0:24:37.520 --> 0:24:40.000
<v Speaker 2>that at all. This is a team that we expect

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<v Speaker 2>to take a step back right or on the other

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<v Speaker 2>way where it's like they just went through their season

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<v Speaker 2>of hell. They've never been more motivated, more doubted. I

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<v Speaker 2>really like this Chiefs team. House stand up for them.

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<v Speaker 2>So Bernie, Well, I have a bet for you that

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<v Speaker 2>down the line. I'm not gonna bet them for playoffs wise,

0:24:55.080 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 2>but I have some really good odds on them right

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<v Speaker 2>now that I've been taking advantage of for betting their futures.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I like that. Uh. One of the other teams

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<v Speaker 1>that I know we've talked a lot about betting is

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<v Speaker 1>the Cleveland Browns.

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<v Speaker 3>What do you want to say about the Browns?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, do we want to bet the Browns and plus

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<v Speaker 1>what is it five fifty right now? Is that what

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<v Speaker 1>it is?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Plus five point fifty to make the playoffs? We were

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<v Speaker 1>we we've been comfortable betting the Browns at two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and one to win the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I need, I need, I need this to be

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<v Speaker 2>eight hundred to one because we don't know what the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback is. It could be Shador and I just I

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<v Speaker 2>can't be putting my real money behind your door.

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<v Speaker 3>That bet.

0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I made a two hundred and one that was at

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Deshaun Watson coming back and everything I've seen Deshaun's looked well.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I wouldn't touch this chat. There's two other

0:25:50.280 --> 0:25:52.200
<v Speaker 2>teams that are Division I like a lot more head

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<v Speaker 2>into the season.

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<v Speaker 3>I like this Browns team.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know who else is? Who Else's number? I

0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>like a lot Dallas Cowboys plus one hundred to make

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs? Why is that not minus money? Why are

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>they not minus one twenty? Like I was, I was

0:26:13.160 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 1>fundamentally impressed with Brian Schottenheimmer last year and his ability

0:26:18.119 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 1>to coach that team, the way he managed Dak Prescott,

0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:25.000
<v Speaker 1>the way he managed it when Ceedee Lamb was out

0:26:25.520 --> 0:26:29.040
<v Speaker 1>they had a terrible defense. I think they can make

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<v Speaker 1>some of those changes and improvements. I think they started

0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>doing it by overhauling the staff. I just feel like

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:40.600
<v Speaker 1>that they're being a little bit undervalued at plus one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred to make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>It's fair, that's a that's a good price, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>also the same thing goes back to the Bears. It's

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:49.720
<v Speaker 2>a little fishy of a line where they know the

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:51.760
<v Speaker 2>fan base, they know people can be hanging that. Yes,

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 2>to make the playoffs in my first one to be

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:57.640
<v Speaker 2>in a year when which the division was totally weak.

0:26:58.200 --> 0:26:59.119
<v Speaker 3>They didn't step up.

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<v Speaker 2>And that all happened in the Week one, right the

0:27:01.240 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 2>CD drop pass against the Eagles, that felt like a

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:05.920
<v Speaker 2>sliding doors kind of moment, like they had the Eagles

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:08.760
<v Speaker 2>without Jalen Carter CD catches that ball, they win that

0:27:08.840 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 2>Week one could totally change their season, the outlook of

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.600
<v Speaker 2>their season. But they lost that game, Like you said,

0:27:13.640 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 2>it just could never get above five hundred the rest

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 2>of the year. And you know, Shody did a great

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 2>job as well. That defense is so bad. They have

0:27:21.200 --> 0:27:23.159
<v Speaker 2>made improvements. They did go out and get guys, and

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:25.240
<v Speaker 2>you know that parts trade as much crap as we

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 2>gave them. It looks like it's that that was the

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:29.760
<v Speaker 2>best way for this team that needed that had a

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 2>bunch of holes that needed to filled. You could turn

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.280
<v Speaker 2>the one player into three players. You're gonna take that deal, right,

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>So I don't hate the bet chat.

0:27:36.680 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 3>I just it's it's because of the division.

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.240
<v Speaker 2>Where if Dark takes that next step, if jayde Daniels

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 2>comes back to play like he did his rookie year

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 2>and the Eagles are still the Eagles. I don't know

0:27:47.000 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be as the greatest Dallas is. I could

0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:51.720
<v Speaker 2>see them having another year of being eight nine to

0:27:51.800 --> 0:27:53.560
<v Speaker 2>nine and eight. It's just hard to see them getting

0:27:53.560 --> 0:27:56.240
<v Speaker 2>to a ten eleven wins again. So that's why hesitation

0:27:56.320 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 2>with better than to make the playoffs.

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>I am sewed down on the New York Football Giants.

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:05.639
<v Speaker 1>I like, I don't like their team. I'm not a

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>buyer Jackson Dart. I think that Harbaugh John Harbaugh, unless

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:21.359
<v Speaker 1>he is a culture setting genius that we haven't observed

0:28:21.480 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>in a way, I'm not buying that there is a

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.560
<v Speaker 1>quick fix on this on this Giants team.

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:30.400
<v Speaker 2>I see it though, like I've had enough pros talk

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 2>to me about it where I see what they're coming from.

0:28:32.600 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 2>Because we talked about the time Jed all these guys

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>were betting. It's on the year two jump. That's everything, right.

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.920
<v Speaker 2>No one predicted Caleb Wims would make the number two seed.

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>No one predicted that Drake May would be the two seed.

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Now you could say, well, we knew Patriot be good

0:28:46.960 --> 0:28:48.280
<v Speaker 2>because their schedule we can all agree on.

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Then the head coach or anything like that.

0:28:50.280 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing here with the Giants, right, they

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.760
<v Speaker 2>have an easier schedule even though they're in a tougher division.

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 2>Like I just said, they have a new head coach,

0:28:58.560 --> 0:29:03.080
<v Speaker 2>they have a quarterback that has had flashes of I know,

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:05.560
<v Speaker 2>coming into it, a enough creer. He said he wanted

0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 2>to have his game revolve around the same type as

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurts. He has shown them he can run the ball,

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.200
<v Speaker 2>he can take hits. Eventually those hits caught up to

0:29:13.240 --> 0:29:15.480
<v Speaker 2>him though. That's the issue where it's like, you can't

0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.840
<v Speaker 2>play Jalen Hurts his style if you can't take the hits.

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 3>So you know, we've heard that.

0:29:20.360 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 2>He said he was gonna make adjustments. He gets interviewed

0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 2>whatever it was a month ago at some golf event.

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:27.560
<v Speaker 2>He says, yeah, I'm I'm gonna be smarter with the ball,

0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 2>but if I need to get that first down, I'm

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>still gonna get it, which is like, again, I love

0:29:31.520 --> 0:29:33.320
<v Speaker 2>to hear that, but it's not he's not learning. He's

0:29:33.360 --> 0:29:35.040
<v Speaker 2>not getting it where it's like, dude, you have to

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 2>live now for that first down, to live for the

0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.400
<v Speaker 2>next snap. Like I wish you know a guy like

0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Elon Mine could just get in his ear about it,

0:29:40.960 --> 0:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>where it's like, you just take what's given to you,

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 2>don't always have to put your head down and take

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 2>those hits from a linebacker that weighs fifty pounds more

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 2>than you. It's just I'm totally agreats with you too

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 2>about horrible. I just do not believe in him. I

0:29:53.240 --> 0:29:56.680
<v Speaker 2>think the Ravens, when of the best organizations all football,

0:29:57.200 --> 0:30:00.240
<v Speaker 2>they draft so well, like they had such a long

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.920
<v Speaker 2>run of his tenure of drafting so well, and you

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.240
<v Speaker 2>can point to well, look how great he was as

0:30:05.240 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 2>a playoff coach before Lamar, he's only struggled in the

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:11.080
<v Speaker 2>playoffs little more. Okay, that's all fine and good. Lamar

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 2>was like a two time MVP. That can't be overstated enough. Right,

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.320
<v Speaker 2>he can show like hide away of or balls.

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>That's what That's my issue is that like every time

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>it mattered, he had the best quarterback, the best athlete

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>in professional football, maybe one of the best athletes to

0:30:30.000 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 1>ever play the position of quarterback in the history of football,

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and he consistently made bad strategic decisions about how to

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:40.920
<v Speaker 1>use that quarterback. And he also made strategic decisions about

0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>who was going to be running the offense at this

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:50.400
<v Speaker 1>quarterback played in so often it was infuriating, absolutely infuriating,

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 1>especially for someone who like you and I, We would

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>often want to bet on the Ravens. We thought like

0:30:55.600 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>they were so sound structurally and schematically that they would

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>always make the wrong decisions in the biggest moments strategically.

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:09.240
<v Speaker 2>Lamar had a rhythm to him too, where me and

0:31:09.320 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 2>you are easiest, beds are allies and ay tell Lamore

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.440
<v Speaker 2>played an NFC team I think it was like twenty

0:31:13.480 --> 0:31:16.720
<v Speaker 2>four and two becaust NFC. It was easy money. Ay

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 2>time he played Pittsburgh, we bet Pittsburgh. He just for

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.480
<v Speaker 2>some reason struggled against Pittsburgh. It was these weird rhythms

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 2>of Lamar. You know, I look at this team now

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know it's it goes back to my Jalen

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 2>Hurts argument about all the talent Jalen Hurts us surrounded

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 2>by him. Lamar Jackson was part of the third greatest

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.240
<v Speaker 2>dv DVOA team ever in recorded history. Now, if you

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know what DVOA is, it's basically how we can

0:31:39.000 --> 0:31:41.320
<v Speaker 2>kind of judge these NFL teams non biased, right, It's

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>just pure data, peer numbers. It doesn't matter what you

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:46.000
<v Speaker 2>see in the field. It just strictly numbers. So this

0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>computer doesn't know Lamar is one of the greatest athletes

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 2>ever to live, right, he doesn't know that. It's just

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 2>taking the DVOA score of it. The third greatest team

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.520
<v Speaker 2>in the history of that record keeping lost at home

0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.719
<v Speaker 2>to a Chiefs team that Chad probably remembers this. They

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:02.920
<v Speaker 2>were horrible, they were the four seed. They limped into it.

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 2>Obviously won't doing the Super Bowl that year. But it

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.720
<v Speaker 2>just shows the difference of like we agree horrible, he

0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 2>used to be a great coach. Me and Chi had

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>just have major questions about him right now. And so

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 2>I think we're on the same page about the Giants team.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 2>But they are minus three twenty five they missed the playoffs.

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Like that's that's too high of odds. There's other ways

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 2>I think we can attack that, which we talked about

0:32:20.280 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>the over under much simpler way to get a cheaper

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:23.800
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<v Speaker 1>I will say Jackson Dart did throw a dart from

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>the top of that boat under the dude riding the

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:33.200
<v Speaker 1>jet ski some wake somewhere where he then jumped off

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the boat which had to be thirty to forty feet

0:32:35.560 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 1>high doing flips and dives, and he looked like a

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 1>young guy just having a fucking ball.

0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:44.800
<v Speaker 2>And I would love like perfect name Dart in New

0:32:44.880 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 2>York City, the whole thing. It would be a dream

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 2>scenario for fans of the league everyone, if you worked

0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>out it just it's it feels like coward. A lot

0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:54.280
<v Speaker 2>of people are a little too early to the party.

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a year away or two. Maybe I

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 2>just I can't get there with the giants this year.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So, look, one of the bets that we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about every year, that is an old stat from

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<v Speaker 1>our friend Evan Abrams, is you take the teams that

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<v Speaker 1>are I think twelve to one or lower to win

0:35:25.560 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl and you round robin them. And last

0:35:30.760 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>year it didn't work, and I think three years ago

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it didn't work. But in you know, I think eleven

0:35:36.120 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>of the past thirteen years, the Super Bowl teams have

0:35:41.160 --> 0:35:43.279
<v Speaker 1>come from this bunch of teams that are twelve to

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.919
<v Speaker 1>one or less. Which interesting right now is that hard

0:35:47.040 --> 0:35:50.359
<v Speaker 1>rock there's only four teams that are twelve to one

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 1>or less, and then there's one team that is thirteen

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:57.800
<v Speaker 1>to one. So the round robin options here are Rams

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>plus five to fifty Ravens plus one thousand Buffalo Bills

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 1>plus one thousand, ten to one, ten to one, Seahawks

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 1>plus eleven hundred eleven to one, and then the Chiefs

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:16.760
<v Speaker 1>are at thirteen to one plus thirteen hundred. Here's the thing, Simon.

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>Normally those teams you feel really confident like you could

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>see it, it would make sense. I think they're all

0:36:25.840 --> 0:36:28.839
<v Speaker 1>suspect in a way. The one I actually feel most

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 1>confident about is the Chiefs at thirteen to one.

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, before all this hype went on with the Rams.

0:36:36.320 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 2>If you looked before, it was all really close. All

0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:42.240
<v Speaker 2>these teams were like eight to one. The Ravens, the Rams.

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 3>The Bills. They're all tied now.

0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 2>People know, in my position, I only bet teams who

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:49.560
<v Speaker 2>have won Super Bowls before. I know it sounds stupid, people,

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I get it, but it's just the way the league is.

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 2>It's all culture, it's offer and off, it's all ownership.

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:58.279
<v Speaker 2>All that stuff matters so much. And just you've been

0:36:58.320 --> 0:37:00.719
<v Speaker 2>there before and you've won it. Dodds if you doing

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:02.919
<v Speaker 2>it again, I'll go way high. You've been there before

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:05.400
<v Speaker 2>and you've lost, your odds go way down, just as

0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Vikings fans and Bills fans right they've I think they've

0:37:07.680 --> 0:37:09.839
<v Speaker 2>both been to four Super Bowls, never won one.

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 3>It's just whatever it is. If you haven't been invity

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:13.239
<v Speaker 3>to the party, it's hard to get there.

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:16.920
<v Speaker 2>And I love the Bills. I love the Bills prospects

0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 2>out for the season. I wouldn't put them in my

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 2>round robin. If I was you, chef, yeah, I acrilege.

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I just wouldn't do it.

0:37:23.400 --> 0:37:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't feel comfortable with it at all. All these

0:37:25.400 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>teams to me, like the Rams feel overhyped. The Ravens

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:30.759
<v Speaker 1>have a new head coach, the Bills have a new

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>head coach, and something feels a little bit off. I'm

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:35.359
<v Speaker 1>not going to do the Seahawks because I don't think

0:37:35.360 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 1>they're going to repeat. I don't like any of these

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 1>teams in my round robin except for Kansas City.

0:37:40.800 --> 0:37:42.759
<v Speaker 3>Well wait then, I'll give you my exact does. Later

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 3>you'll like that better.

0:37:43.880 --> 0:37:45.879
<v Speaker 1>We'll go to your exactors then, because by the way,

0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:50.200
<v Speaker 1>after Kansas City, it's the Niners, the Lions, the Chargers,

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:52.480
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles. You know what I would do right now,

0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>here's what I would do. I would do Eagles Chiefs.

0:37:58.320 --> 0:38:00.239
<v Speaker 1>That's what I would do. A Super Bowl match above

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Eagles Chiefs. I want you to tell me about what

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.080
<v Speaker 1>you think of that when we get to your exact

0:38:06.080 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 1>dos and all that kind of stuff.

0:38:08.320 --> 0:38:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Locked in Chad, that that that's one of the plays,

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:12.400
<v Speaker 3>is it really? Yeah? Of course?

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:15.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, all right, I'm writing that I'm making

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:19.840
<v Speaker 1>some notes right now as we speak, All right, Eagles

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs Super Bowl matchup, number one seed in each conference.

0:38:25.160 --> 0:38:28.760
<v Speaker 1>Let's start with the NFC. The Rams plus three hundred

0:38:28.920 --> 0:38:35.120
<v Speaker 1>the Seahawks looks like it's plus plus five seventy five

0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Lions plus seven hundred Eagles plus eight hundred Packers plus

0:38:40.600 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 1>eight fifty. Dude, Howie is just it's like the whole

0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>It's like he's playing possum. I know he doesn't set

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.680
<v Speaker 1>these odds, but the dudes playing possum. If there's a

0:38:53.760 --> 0:38:56.800
<v Speaker 1>team prime to bounce back right now, is it not

0:38:56.880 --> 0:39:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the Eagles, just especially.

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:01.719
<v Speaker 2>When you look at all the different divisions right like

0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 2>you think about the NFC West brutal, you think of

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 2>the NFC North brutal. Yes, the Eagles East might improve,

0:39:09.239 --> 0:39:11.400
<v Speaker 2>but there's not a single defense that entire division that

0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 2>scares you. Like the Cowies not have a defense, Giants

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 2>don't have a great defense. Watch doesn't have a great defense.

0:39:16.800 --> 0:39:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Even if the Eagles do take a step back with AJ,

0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 2>I think there's so much bs last year and they

0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 2>still were almost the two seed, the one seed will

0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.240
<v Speaker 2>be in grasped. Like Chad's saying, at plus eight hundred,

0:39:26.840 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 2>that's that's a really good value. I much rather make

0:39:29.080 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 2>that that that touched Seattle or the Rams like that.

0:39:32.080 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 3>Just I know last year obviously they were both fight

0:39:34.560 --> 0:39:35.279
<v Speaker 3>for the one seed.

0:39:35.880 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 2>These teams tend to cannibalize themselves, right, and you've seen

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.759
<v Speaker 2>that time, Like in your own division, the Bears, they

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 2>they basically won that second seed, won your division on

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:47.759
<v Speaker 2>like the last day of the year, like they just

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:49.840
<v Speaker 2>all these things had to break right for them to

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 2>get that division. So just looking at on paper, I

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 2>agree with you. It's just the the AFC is the

0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 2>same exact thing here we're gonna talk about. But I

0:39:57.560 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 2>went in top the touch ones, just like Seattle last year.

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I think out at this point last year of fifteen

0:40:01.320 --> 0:40:03.879
<v Speaker 2>to one to be the one seed. Take the long

0:40:03.920 --> 0:40:06.399
<v Speaker 2>shots to people. Don't take the chalk everyone. We're too

0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 2>focused on what happened last year rather than one might.

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Be happening always. Yeah, So you like the Eagles, there's

0:40:14.040 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>anyone else in there that you think is worth any

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>value if they.

0:40:18.440 --> 0:40:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Only have one.

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 2>I just thought the Eagles, out of everyone that jumped

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:21.920
<v Speaker 2>out to me, they are the best odds. Like you

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.920
<v Speaker 2>could do the Bucks at twenty five to one, like

0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:28.920
<v Speaker 2>that's crazy odds. But it's just we've seen it, Baker,

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 2>he takes hits. I can't see him playing a full season.

0:40:31.640 --> 0:40:33.040
<v Speaker 2>That you need to play a full season to get

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:33.520
<v Speaker 2>the one seed.

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about the AFC. Then, what are

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you looking at?

0:40:37.480 --> 0:40:41.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, right away the top it's business usual.

0:40:41.480 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 2>It's Ravens Bill's Chiefs, which I thought was really funny

0:40:44.440 --> 0:40:48.000
<v Speaker 2>by the sports books, just because you know, I think

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 2>the Charger are still favorites to win the division, but.

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 3>The Chiefs are better odds to be the one seed.

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 2>Just shows like professional money, how it dictates these markets

0:40:55.920 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 2>and where they think the value is at. And you know,

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 2>for me, those top guys have no value. Now you

0:41:00.960 --> 0:41:02.680
<v Speaker 2>can look at Houston their next one up at ten

0:41:02.680 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 2>to one. Yeah, still wouldn't do it, because right away

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:09.480
<v Speaker 2>it jumped out to me was Cincinnati Cincinnaty's eleven to one.

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

0:41:11.440 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know I'm about the biggest Zach Taylor guy,

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:17.319
<v Speaker 2>but I look at that team where they they've improved defensively,

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Like that's all I really asked for, is them going

0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 2>pre defensively. I think the general public's trying to see

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 2>the nerds are trying to see what I saw last year,

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 2>which is those sacks. Blindly baiting blaming that Bengals offensive

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:30.960
<v Speaker 2>line was foolish. It was they were not this bad

0:41:31.000 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 2>offensive line. That's Oh, this why Drie Joe brought to succeed.

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:36.680
<v Speaker 2>No Joe board to succeed because he holds on the

0:41:36.680 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 2>ball too long, he takes unnecessary hits. And it's been

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:41.520
<v Speaker 2>following in his whole career because he had that bad

0:41:41.560 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 2>offensive lines.

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 3>He had to do try to do too much. But

0:41:43.640 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 3>I think coming in this year, when someone goes and say, hey,

0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:46.960
<v Speaker 3>you had the number one.

0:41:46.920 --> 0:41:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Most time in pat and when we were when you

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 2>drop back to pass in the pocket in the league, like,

0:41:52.640 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 2>that's not made up metric. That's a real metch between

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:57.560
<v Speaker 2>you and Joe Flaco. You need to figure it out

0:41:57.560 --> 0:42:00.560
<v Speaker 2>because Joe flack Woo didn't get hurt. Joe Flack your

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:03.000
<v Speaker 2>ten year senior. He took some hits, but he was

0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.480
<v Speaker 2>obviously would throw the ball to dirt. He didn't take

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 2>those unecessary hits constantly, which is Joe needs to work on.

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 2>But them and the Ravens, they're not that much different.

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:13.919
<v Speaker 2>And the fact that the Ravens are the number one

0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:16.720
<v Speaker 2>favorite to be the number one seed, and the Bengals

0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 2>are down here eleven to one. My model has them

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:21.680
<v Speaker 2>literally neck and neck. So just going base off values,

0:42:21.719 --> 0:42:24.759
<v Speaker 2>I have them both at plus six hundred. That means

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting in a free plus five hundred right now

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.320
<v Speaker 2>in this Bengals team. So, like again, I'm not the

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:30.759
<v Speaker 2>biggest Bengals believer. My model jumps out to that. It's

0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:33.160
<v Speaker 2>like I have to take notice and say, Okay, I

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 2>might be a little too hard on Joe Burrow and

0:42:35.560 --> 0:42:38.399
<v Speaker 2>Zach Taylor. This is good. This is a good number.

0:42:38.440 --> 0:42:39.560
<v Speaker 2>This is something you need to bet. So I did

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 2>bet at twelve to one. I've been at eleven oh one.

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:43.920
<v Speaker 2>I would keep taking it until it drops down to

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:45.359
<v Speaker 2>blow ten to one. I think it's a good value

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:46.359
<v Speaker 2>right now in this Bengals team.

0:42:46.520 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 3>I like it.

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>I like it a lot. I was going to ask

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:51.919
<v Speaker 1>you about the Bengals in their playoffs, and I didn't

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:53.759
<v Speaker 1>like the numbers. I think like to make it their

0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:55.800
<v Speaker 1>minus two twenty five or something like that, which just

0:42:55.920 --> 0:43:00.480
<v Speaker 1>feels to me too bloated. But I like this opportunity

0:43:00.560 --> 0:43:02.399
<v Speaker 1>on the Bengals at eleven to one because I agree

0:43:02.400 --> 0:43:06.240
<v Speaker 1>with you I think we did see that the issues

0:43:06.280 --> 0:43:08.440
<v Speaker 1>for Joe Burrow last year were him holding the ball

0:43:08.520 --> 0:43:10.160
<v Speaker 1>too long, and I think that started to become a

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 1>message too, that became sort of a narrative. Oh wait

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.959
<v Speaker 1>a second, maybe it's not all on their offensive line.

0:43:18.360 --> 0:43:20.680
<v Speaker 1>And I do think also they focused on defense and

0:43:20.760 --> 0:43:24.640
<v Speaker 1>improved their defense a little bit. So they're sneaky, they're quiet,

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 1>They're not getting a lot of conversation. Like all the

0:43:27.560 --> 0:43:30.600
<v Speaker 1>conversation is about, you know, the Ravens and a new coach,

0:43:30.719 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 1>or Patrick Mahomes coming back, or you know, the trade

0:43:33.960 --> 0:43:36.319
<v Speaker 1>of Miles Garrett to the Rams and will Aaron Donald

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>come back. Not a ton of conversation right now about

0:43:40.560 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>the Cincinnati Bengals. All right, we've reached the point of

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 1>the show where I do You've teased this a couple

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:50.479
<v Speaker 1>of times. You got some exotic NFL playoff bets.

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<v Speaker 2>This one will be my first one, will be my

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Simon says, so right off the top, got to go

0:43:57.840 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 2>back to Chad already knew it.

0:43:59.560 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Chad read me like a book. Eagles to beat the

0:44:02.239 --> 0:44:04.359
<v Speaker 3>Chiefs one hundred to one. Super Bowl.

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:44:06.200 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 2>So if you're new here, people, that means if I

0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 2>bet a grand I can win one hundred K on

0:44:10.760 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 2>that bet. But you're like, that will never happen, Chad,

0:44:14.640 --> 0:44:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Chad knows. We know. Two years ago, your buddy Sibon

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:22.839
<v Speaker 2>here put it around ten to fifteen K. A bunch

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 2>of different matchups, and the biggest one I lean into

0:44:25.239 --> 0:44:27.960
<v Speaker 2>was Eagles versus the Chiefs matchup, and I basically bet

0:44:28.600 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 2>it was like five K to win three hundred k. People, So,

0:44:31.200 --> 0:44:33.720
<v Speaker 2>I know it sounds crazy. You're like, this will never happen.

0:44:34.120 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm getting the better odds now. I only need

0:44:36.000 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 2>to bet three thousand dollars to win three hundred k.

0:44:39.200 --> 0:44:41.719
<v Speaker 2>So I just it just shows where two years two,

0:44:41.760 --> 0:44:43.320
<v Speaker 2>three years ago, the Eagles and the Chiefs were just

0:44:43.360 --> 0:44:45.560
<v Speaker 2>so much more hyped. We're getting even better odds now.

0:44:45.560 --> 0:44:47.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you these teams from those two years ago

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<v Speaker 2>no different.

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:50.600
<v Speaker 3>In my model. These are just as good as teams.

0:44:51.000 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 3>It's all about health, that's all football is.

0:44:52.840 --> 0:44:55.200
<v Speaker 2>That's why we want to bet these crazy odds because

0:44:55.200 --> 0:44:56.799
<v Speaker 2>we need a lot of luck divisus to get there.

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:58.840
<v Speaker 3>We need health. Both these teams stay healthy.

0:44:59.160 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I think they're both top two, top three teams in

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 2>their respected conferences. So right there, jumped out, if you

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 2>want to do the flip side the Chiefs to beat

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.560
<v Speaker 2>the Eagles. Same thing at hard Rock one hundred to one.

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 2>We just talked about the Bengals. I like people, no,

0:45:13.520 --> 0:45:15.640
<v Speaker 2>I like betting repeat Super Bowls and.

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:17.720
<v Speaker 3>It happens.

0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 2>It just I mean, it sounds crazy, but every year

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:24.000
<v Speaker 2>it happens. Patriots Seahawks repeat Super Bowl matchup, like these

0:45:24.080 --> 0:45:27.759
<v Speaker 2>things that the NFL is so cyclical, it's so repeatable.

0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:31.160
<v Speaker 2>The same Bengals to beat the Rams one hundred to one.

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:33.560
<v Speaker 3>I just I get. I'm looking at hundred and one

0:45:33.640 --> 0:45:34.720
<v Speaker 3>bets the Rams.

0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:37.040
<v Speaker 2>You really can't find good odds on them, but to

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:39.120
<v Speaker 2>fade them, to have them losing Super you can get

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.160
<v Speaker 2>some pretty good odds. So that was one hundred and

0:45:42.160 --> 0:45:43.719
<v Speaker 2>twenty to one. It's now dropped down one hundred and

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:46.719
<v Speaker 2>one Bengals over the Rams in Super Bowl. So those

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:48.800
<v Speaker 2>are exact those you know, if you want to do

0:45:48.880 --> 0:45:50.640
<v Speaker 2>three or four of them, but you know, five bucks

0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.319
<v Speaker 2>on each. They're just really fun bets to come back

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 2>to in the playoffs where it's easy to hedge, right

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:57.680
<v Speaker 2>if you if you want to hedge the NFC Championship

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:00.359
<v Speaker 2>and want to hedge the AFC Championship Game have such

0:46:00.440 --> 0:46:02.200
<v Speaker 2>crazy odds, you're gonna have a lot opportunity to do that.

0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 3>So that's why I like nick these type of bets.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I owe you a chad choice, and I was

0:46:07.680 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>going to do the Bears to miss the playoffs, and like,

0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:15.359
<v Speaker 1>I can't do that. Like at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't have one of my season long bets be

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<v Speaker 1>against the team that I am going to be living

0:46:21.120 --> 0:46:25.160
<v Speaker 1>and dying with all season long. I can't emotionally hedge

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 1>a season long But I think you really got me

0:46:29.400 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 1>on the Saints. So my chad choice is going to

0:46:32.600 --> 0:46:37.799
<v Speaker 1>be the New Orleans Saints to make the playoffs at

0:46:37.840 --> 0:46:40.840
<v Speaker 1>plus two hundred. I like the situation with the South.

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:45.240
<v Speaker 1>I like a little bit of regression from the Panthers

0:46:45.360 --> 0:46:48.160
<v Speaker 1>and their schedule. I think we liked what we saw

0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:53.520
<v Speaker 1>from Kellen Moore and Tyler Shock last year. So I'm

0:46:53.560 --> 0:46:55.680
<v Speaker 1>going with the Saints' chad choice plus two hundred to

0:46:55.719 --> 0:46:58.800
<v Speaker 1>make the playoffs. What do you think of that? I

0:46:58.880 --> 0:46:59.760
<v Speaker 1>always like feedback.

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:03.319
<v Speaker 2>I love it, and I would say the only only

0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.759
<v Speaker 2>one I really disagreed was of any of the points

0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:07.800
<v Speaker 2>you even gave was your Patriots take where I was

0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:12.320
<v Speaker 2>all aboard baiting the Patriots, but just the everyone I

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:15.000
<v Speaker 2>talked to in the Miami organization and the Jets organization

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:18.520
<v Speaker 2>is that four free wins and if they split with

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:21.160
<v Speaker 2>the Bills, that means they have five wins potentially just

0:47:21.239 --> 0:47:23.640
<v Speaker 2>in their division. So that's what's so terrifying with them

0:47:23.680 --> 0:47:25.040
<v Speaker 2>the Bills, right, I can see either of them winning

0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:28.320
<v Speaker 2>that division and obviously being a top seed, just because

0:47:28.320 --> 0:47:28.560
<v Speaker 2>they have.

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 3>Potentially four free games this year. Like it just seems

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 3>all purposes.

0:47:33.880 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 2>The Jets really don't want to win this year, and

0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Miami is right on board with that, like they know

0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:41.520
<v Speaker 2>this next upcoming class of quarterbacks it's insane, it's one

0:47:41.520 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 2>of it might be one of the best classes I've

0:47:43.000 --> 0:47:45.440
<v Speaker 2>ever seen coming out. We'll see how that happens in

0:47:45.520 --> 0:47:48.200
<v Speaker 2>regular season, right with college football, But as we sit

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:51.439
<v Speaker 2>here right now, the Jets, Miami, they are truly trying

0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 2>to tank and they're being open about it.

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:54.600
<v Speaker 3>So I was right there with you.

0:47:54.719 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 2>I was full blown ready to fade this Patriots team.

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:59.520
<v Speaker 2>But the fact that you're bringing an AJ Brown who

0:47:59.880 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 2>was see about his health, but if he's healthy, dead

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:04.799
<v Speaker 2>defense with Drake May hopefully taking that next step. If

0:48:04.800 --> 0:48:07.080
<v Speaker 2>you're a Patriots fan, I don't know how they don't

0:48:07.080 --> 0:48:09.360
<v Speaker 2>get the ten wins and ten wins we've seen the past.

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:10.960
<v Speaker 2>That's good enough to get to seven to see in

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 2>the AFC. So I get where you're coming from. I

0:48:14.000 --> 0:48:16.080
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be on the fade the Patriots bandwagon as well.

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 2>Chat just at that price. I can't do it for

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:20.279
<v Speaker 2>them to miss the playoffs, all.

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, So our Simon says, presented by hard Rock bets

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles to beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl at

0:48:30.320 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 1>one hundred to one. Our Chad's Choice, presented by hard

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>Rock bet New Orleans Saints to make the playoffs at

0:48:40.000 --> 0:48:43.520
<v Speaker 1>plus two one hundred. That is our show. Reminder, no

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<v Speaker 1>show on Thursday. Samon and I are back on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Love you and when you look at Kelvin Benjamin Gods.

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:15.520
<v Speaker 3>He's six', five he's two hundred and forty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Pounds he's probably A popeye's biscuit away from being a tight,

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<v Speaker 1>end and he has trouble getting separation