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Speaker 4: As we record this episode on Sunday, July twenty six,
Speaker 4: twenty twenty six, lots of discuss as the Chicago White
Speaker 4: Sox just wrapped up their series against the Houston Astros,
Speaker 4: a losing series. They lost two out of three. We'll
Speaker 4: talk about that. Regarding the sixth inning issues the White
Speaker 4: Sox faced in both Friday and Saturday's loss. Munataka Murakami
Speaker 4: not only does he have sushi in his honor, But
Speaker 4: he also got a bobblehead and had a huge day
Speaker 4: on Sunday. We'll be talking about that, but first we
Speaker 4: have some breaking news from the Chicago White Sox on
Speaker 4: the trade front. That breaking trading news for the Chicago
Speaker 4: White Sox comes from Robert Murray and Robert Murray first
Speaker 4: reported in confirmed by our James Vegan at Sox Machine
Speaker 4: that the Chicago White Sox are acquiring pitcher who's a
Speaker 4: Yorkidi from the Pittsburgh Pirates. Your Kidi has spent most
Speaker 4: of this season with the Indianapolis Triple A affiliate for Pittsburgh,
Speaker 4: as he started seventeen games there with a three point
Speaker 4: sixty six or in run average. In eighty three innings
Speaker 4: this season, your Kidi has seventy three strikeouts. His last
Speaker 4: appearance to the major leagues was back in April for Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: So why do the White Sox make this trade or
Speaker 4: what exactly is the latest Well, I am now joined
Speaker 4: by my partners in Crime Sox Machines, be reporter James
Speaker 4: Vegan and managing editor Jim Margolus, And hello gents, James,
Speaker 4: you were able to confirm as far as the trade
Speaker 4: the White Sox made with Pittsburgh for your Kidi, what
Speaker 4: do you know about this deal?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, now it's official obviously, you know, kind
Speaker 5: of going for a DSL reliever. You know, he had
Speaker 5: been recently dffade off their triple A roster and from
Speaker 5: what I was told, he's going to the White Sox
Speaker 5: triple A roster. So you know, his numbers are triple
Speaker 5: A or decent. He hasn't really got lit up at
Speaker 5: working in relief back in April for Pittsburgh, but it
Speaker 5: sounds like, you know, he's stretched out. He's he hasn't
Speaker 5: made a major league start since twenty twenty three, getting
Speaker 5: all the injuries, and you know, he was a solid
Speaker 5: like mid rotation guy for the Astros back in the day.
Speaker 5: But at this point it sounds like he's my like
Speaker 5: depth of the bulk or stretch out sort. So obviously
Speaker 5: the White Sox rotation isn't flux. We don't know like
Speaker 5: how many more bites of the apple, like Noah Schultz
Speaker 5: is gonna get. And you know, certainly they're looking to
Speaker 5: add starter is probably their biggest priority in the deadline.
Speaker 5: I don't yet know how a heet he fits beyond
Speaker 5: organizaizational depth at.
Speaker 4: This point though we will see got it all right,
Speaker 4: So doesn't sound like much. Jim, what are your thoughts
Speaker 4: about this deal for the White Sox.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the only thing I can uh think of in
Speaker 6: terms of like why he jumped out, aside from just
Speaker 6: being defa'ed and being front of mine, is that he
Speaker 6: has shoved against the White Sox, and two of his
Speaker 6: three outings against the White Sox and easy seven innings
Speaker 6: both times in twenty twenty one. Twenty twenty three was
Speaker 6: more ordinary, like I think if throw like four innings
Speaker 6: at that point, but that's when the shoulder injury started
Speaker 6: to set in and then he had to John surgery.
Speaker 6: They cost him two years. So probably a different version
Speaker 6: than what the White Sox have seen overpower them in
Speaker 6: previous years. But they have gotten a look at him
Speaker 6: when he's at his best, and that's still probably better
Speaker 6: or a different kind of picture than the White Sox
Speaker 6: currently having Charlotte. They really don't have the kind of
Speaker 6: veteran arm that they can just use to fill innings,
Speaker 6: that they can push that has been through the ringer
Speaker 6: like a lot of these guys in Charlotte limited to
Speaker 6: five innings. Sometimes they go six at most, but you're
Speaker 6: seeing like a weird amount of bulk guys in Charlotte.
Speaker 6: So I think it just helps to have somebody down
Speaker 6: there who can throw five, six, you know, maybe even
Speaker 6: beyond that if he's you know, if he's cruising, and
Speaker 6: not really have to worry about any kind of long
Speaker 6: term developmental ramifications.
Speaker 4: I guess from my perspective, a lot of White Sox
Speaker 4: fans make okay, so Charlotte needs pictures is what's the
Speaker 4: next move? And I think we're all waiting to see
Speaker 4: what that next move is for the White Sox. But
Speaker 4: someone on social media was complaining that the White Sox
Speaker 4: must see that Eric Vetti gives up too many home
Speaker 4: runs and there's got to be a better option. We've
Speaker 4: talked about it the last couple of weeks, listeners. The
Speaker 4: internal starting pitching depth for the White Sox is really
Speaker 4: shallow at the moment, so hopefully your Keatie can help
Speaker 4: least build up some depth in Charlotte. I don't know
Speaker 4: if that makes anyone, if that exposes them to possibly
Speaker 4: being dealt. We'll see. The trade deadline again is on
Speaker 4: August third. Lots of pieces are going to be moving.
Speaker 4: We'll see if any of consequence for the White Sox.
Speaker 4: Now for the Chicago White Sox recapping as far as
Speaker 4: his series lost to the Houston Astros, even though they
Speaker 4: won big on Sunday twelve to three. The most painful loss,
Speaker 4: or one of the most painful losses this weekend, happened
Speaker 4: on Friday nights as the Chicago White Sox were up
Speaker 4: five to nothing, and then a car crash of a
Speaker 4: sixth inning in which the Chicago White Sox allowed eight runs.
Speaker 4: And then on Saturday, scoreless game, Hunter Brown was dealing,
Speaker 4: Sean Burke was dealing, and then yet again, the sixth
Speaker 4: inning comes back and burns the White Sox as they
Speaker 4: give up three runs in that frame. Here is White
Speaker 4: Sox manager will Venna Bull sharing his thoughts on those
Speaker 4: two losses for the White Sox.
Speaker 7: I mean, obviously the first one sixth inning got away
Speaker 7: from us, so that we did a good job offensively,
Speaker 7: I had to solve for a bunch of.
Speaker 3: Different guys after Getty went out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just kind of a tough one.
Speaker 7: Event yesterday, you know a little bit different where we
Speaker 7: just got beat. You know, we got to the buyer
Speaker 7: a guy with really good stuff that which does as
Speaker 7: well as probably pitched all year and you know, just
Speaker 7: really figuring him out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, tough, tough games. John opportunity today was we're.
Speaker 4: Excited about it now. When it comes to the sixth
Speaker 4: inning issues for the Chicago White Sox again, they gave
Speaker 4: up eight runs on Friday, seven hits, three walks, and
Speaker 4: they hit a batter. And then on Saturday, three runs,
Speaker 4: two hits, hit another batter, a walk, and then a
Speaker 4: very cross the air by Brady Montgomery as he just
Speaker 4: missed as far as the ball rolling under his glove
Speaker 4: on a single that ended up clearing the bases. And
Speaker 4: when it comes to the Chicago White Sox and this
Speaker 4: sixth inning issue, I immediately start thinking about listeners, the
Speaker 4: t top times for the order, penalty, and for Davis
Speaker 4: Martin on the mound. Davis Martin's been excellent. The first
Speaker 4: time through the order. Opposing hitters are just hitting two
Speaker 4: oh six, they're slugging just two sixty five and then
Speaker 4: on base percentage of two forty six. That's fantastic. But
Speaker 4: things drastically change when Davis Martin faces a lineup a
Speaker 4: second time. That batting average increases the two ninety three
Speaker 4: against and his on base percentage against this three seventy
Speaker 4: two and the third time to the order doesn't really
Speaker 4: dip two eighty seven batting average, three point fifty on
Speaker 4: base percentage against Davis Martin. Lugging percentages are still in
Speaker 4: the four hundreds. They haven't exceeded in the five hundreds
Speaker 4: yet against Davis Martin, but that's pretty drastic. And when
Speaker 4: you look at Sean Burke as far as his te
Speaker 4: top first time through the order, very good below three
Speaker 4: hundred and all three two to seven batting average against
Speaker 4: just a two eighty nine on base percentage in the
Speaker 4: first time through the order, second and third time batting
Speaker 4: average very close to the same two fifty four and
Speaker 4: two fifty on base percentage is three twenty three thirteen.
Speaker 4: Sean Brook's pretty consistent against opposing lineups when he faces
Speaker 4: them a second and third time, so it's a little
Speaker 4: bit different for both of them. But this is something
Speaker 4: that I do wonder here, James moving forward, because Davis
Speaker 4: Martin is on track to pitch and it's set a
Speaker 4: new career high for him in a season of innings,
Speaker 4: and we've been asking the White Sox to do something
Speaker 4: to Pad. As far as the starting rotation, are there
Speaker 4: any t top concerns moving forward in how we watch
Speaker 4: the Chicago White Sox starters.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, yes, third times to the order affects everyone.
Speaker 5: It's kind of the greatest challenge in starting pitching. It's
Speaker 5: it's kind of like how do you prevent the rain
Speaker 5: from falling? Like, yeah, it will be the most difficult
Speaker 5: part of everyone's outing every single time, but really separates
Speaker 5: you know, they're reliable starters.
Speaker 2: You know, even what kind of.
Speaker 5: Separates Martin and Burke even from k a little bit
Speaker 5: in terms of like how regularly they get allowed to
Speaker 5: go third times to the order and certainly separate some
Speaker 5: Schultz and Fetti and like that they don't really attempt
Speaker 5: to do that at all.
Speaker 2: Is the difficulty of that.
Speaker 5: But as far as like Martin's not, like I think
Speaker 5: what's maybe affecting him or in the second half is
Speaker 5: like you just haven't necessarily seen the stuff tick up
Speaker 5: to what it was earlier in the season. But like
Speaker 5: the natural nature of Martin's like arsenal is that he's
Speaker 5: throwing six different pitches at you that he and you
Speaker 5: know has a wide enough arsenal that he's cycling through.
Speaker 5: He's showing you a different plan of attack every time through,
Speaker 5: So he's sitting more ninety three ninety four and just
Speaker 5: kind of is more vulnerable, you know. But recently he
Speaker 5: felt like in general we were talking to a post
Speaker 5: game uh Friday that and I think it's evidenced by
Speaker 5: like the walks and controls that he's shown. That sens
Speaker 5: coming out of the break is that he feels like
Speaker 5: his mechanics are trending up and that they did address
Speaker 5: what the spots in his delivery that he wasn't felt
Speaker 5: like he was getting into as the break held. So
Speaker 5: like he feels like he the first two starts and
Speaker 5: especially like looking at that game, both the you know,
Speaker 5: six innings really blew up on them and I think
Speaker 5: keyed around hit by pitches of batters that they felt
Speaker 5: like they could get out with with Burke and Martin,
Speaker 5: and once they did that, they kind of removed their
Speaker 5: margin for air for bat at balllock and here and.
Speaker 2: Gets killed by two roundball.
Speaker 5: Singles and then the you know, the Christian walker like uh,
Speaker 5: you know, Basis Leary double that like Fargus, that was
Speaker 5: all was unreviewable like once. It's really those extra base runners,
Speaker 5: which one was the flaw in his game that he
Speaker 5: couldn't work around, you know, at the end of the
Speaker 5: first half, and he was flagging and you know kind
Speaker 5: of the thing that you know was the straw that
Speaker 5: broke the camel's back in this so Burke, if anything,
Speaker 5: is shrinking as arsenal, because he's talking to him recently
Speaker 5: that he's kind of banging this change up. But that's
Speaker 5: mostly reflective of the fact of how good his curve
Speaker 5: ball is working. And he was the same thing, like
Speaker 5: he's been great third time through the order, Like he's
Speaker 5: kind of builds his velocity up over the course of
Speaker 5: the game where you see more ninety six ninety seven
Speaker 5: as he goes on. It's usually like I think we've
Speaker 5: gotten to the point where like his first pitch will
Speaker 5: be ninety two and you kind of shrug it off
Speaker 5: and see him build up from there, and you know,
Speaker 5: it kind of reminds me of Lucas Shilito a little
Speaker 5: bit in the sense of like this big, long, levered
Speaker 5: guy who kind of gets more in sync fifteen to
Speaker 5: twenty pitches in than he is at the start, which
Speaker 5: lines up to how much he kind of struggled the first.
Speaker 2: Early in his career.
Speaker 5: I mean his uh, his inning really like his third
Speaker 5: time trip to the order, like really blew up because
Speaker 5: of defense, like obviously hit the batter to kind of
Speaker 5: remove it where a defense could hurt him, to agree,
Speaker 5: but like Colson not getting to the ground or that
Speaker 5: you know a police for the you know, the great
Speaker 5: defense he played the first season half his career, you
Speaker 5: kind of are used to.
Speaker 2: Him getting even if it's challenging to turn a DP
Speaker 2: off of that.
Speaker 5: And then Braden kind of whiffing on one that you
Speaker 5: saw him trilling like the exact same play pregame Sunday.
Speaker 5: In response, I think without those he kind of looks
Speaker 5: like regular Burke again. But will three times through the
Speaker 5: order be hard? It will always be hard, sorrdest thing
Speaker 5: in sports, or at least the hardest thing in pitching.
Speaker 5: I just ignore all the sports entirely. But yeah, I
Speaker 5: think it's a challenge from I think like they don't
Speaker 5: these are you know, the creme of the crem of
Speaker 5: the rotation. But Davis Martin, Sean Berker not like proven
Speaker 5: playoff starters or proven guys who like.
Speaker 2: Are awesome at the end of one hundred and eighty.
Speaker 5: Any seasons in September, not because they can't do it,
Speaker 5: because they've not done it before and so much alike
Speaker 5: with his White Sox pitching course is unestablished in that way,
Speaker 5: and so that's in a watch going forward. But it's
Speaker 5: also the it's the fundamental challenge. I don't think like
Speaker 5: they I'll ever not have third time through the order
Speaker 5: numbers that are worse than the rest of their selection
Speaker 5: unless something really goes is going on through year where
Speaker 5: they're struggling out of the gate in some way. That's
Speaker 5: really the issue and out third time to the order
Speaker 5: like this, that's the nature of the Beast.
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Speaker 4: So what is the best way for Will Venable in
Speaker 4: the Chicago White Sox to manage these t top situations
Speaker 4: where it doesn't impact him as much as it did
Speaker 4: this weekend.
Speaker 6: I think this last time out, the one thing that
Speaker 6: Venable might have done differently is either have Hudson come
Speaker 6: in a batter earlier or a batter later. Having him
Speaker 6: come in with the bases loaded against a righty and
Speaker 6: Christian walker probably not the ideal situation, and I think
Speaker 6: there's more to protect Martin and just how things have
Speaker 6: snowballed on him and not wanting to be too passive,
Speaker 6: but it just happened so quickly that he got caught
Speaker 6: in between like do I let him go one better
Speaker 6: too long? Or do I bring a reliever for a
Speaker 6: not an ideal matchup because Hudson's splits, I don't think
Speaker 6: are that crazy to where you're setting them up for failure.
Speaker 6: Just happened to be a very well placed ball down
Speaker 6: the line and that's what happened to it. So based
Speaker 6: on this one start alone, like where his velocity was
Speaker 6: pretty close to what it is and seemed like he
Speaker 6: was locating everything well enough, and he had his whole
Speaker 6: arsenal in play. It is easy to write it off
Speaker 6: as just an isolated occurrence versus like this larger pattern.
Speaker 6: I think the larger pattern is worth paying attention to
Speaker 6: and banking in your memory just to have something compare
Speaker 6: it to as you go along. But you know, with
Speaker 6: how he looked in that sixth inning, it was a
Speaker 6: matter of just the worst possible luck with the usual vulnerabilities.
Speaker 6: I do think that we're seeing, you know, Martin, you know,
Speaker 6: as Era is regressing back to what it is in
Speaker 6: his career, which is like closer to four. And I
Speaker 6: wonder how much of his just outstanding started the season
Speaker 6: is coloring this conversation of him, because you know, nobody
Speaker 6: would have expected him being like a game one or
Speaker 6: Game two postseason starter. It just happened to be everything's
Speaker 6: coming together a year earlier. And so playing with your
Speaker 6: hand to your delt, you know, Martin is a game
Speaker 6: one or Game two, probably game two now, but probably
Speaker 6: not what a team wants ideally, probably more of a
Speaker 6: Game three or Game four. So you're having these conversations about,
Speaker 6: like how good is Davis Martin, which is kind of
Speaker 6: a double edged thing and that it's a compliment to
Speaker 6: the season he's having, but also maybe just put some
Speaker 6: a position where you know he's he's a very good
Speaker 6: developmental story to get where he's gotten if he is
Speaker 6: like a number three or number four starter. So it's
Speaker 6: more about mitigating that kind of picture versus Davis Martin,
Speaker 6: you know, fallen from Grace type conversation. I do think
Speaker 6: as the postseason nears, especially in September, when rosters expand
Speaker 6: a little bit, and perhaps the White Sox have a
Speaker 6: bullpen guy or another bulk guy that they can go to,
Speaker 6: that you will see starts get shorter and just the
Speaker 6: especially if they're in the postseason, run to where you
Speaker 6: know every game matters, that you will see a lot
Speaker 6: more of October type managing where it is two times
Speaker 6: through at most, and then they're going to have somebody
Speaker 6: warming up no matter what, because you can't get caught
Speaker 6: with your pants down. And I think that's what you
Speaker 6: might see if like September rolls around and it's a
Speaker 6: two game lead or two game deficit and you can't
Speaker 6: afford to give away winnable games to give guys rest
Speaker 6: or try to stretch somebody. You probably will see fifth inning,
Speaker 6: more middle relievers or Sean newcom you know, well qualified
Speaker 6: long relievers or bulk relievers coming into play earlier and
Speaker 6: having more handedness imbalances, you know, going from right to
Speaker 6: left or left to right, just in order to you
Speaker 6: have whatever advantage you can get while guys are flagging.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I have the same thought, Jim. And that's
Speaker 4: where I think maybe moving forward, everyone that covers the
Speaker 4: White Sox and White Sox fans just might need to
Speaker 4: accept the fact that Davis Martin could be limited to
Speaker 4: eighty five pitches, not only to try to keep him
Speaker 4: as fresh as possible for the rest of the season,
Speaker 4: but also a matter of being effective. That clearly not
Speaker 4: the numbers that when you try to push them to
Speaker 4: one hundred pitches things start to break down. That doesn't
Speaker 4: seem to be the case for Sean Burke. So right
Speaker 4: now to this starting rotation for the White Sox, it
Speaker 4: really feels like, who is the most confident that you
Speaker 4: could think of who can throw six innings for the
Speaker 4: White Sox right now, it's Sean Burke. So it may
Speaker 4: be just the rotation of five and fly guys, and
Speaker 4: then we'll see what the bullpen could do. But at
Speaker 4: least the White Sox who have some bulk guys in
Speaker 4: the bullpen though James like Sean Newcome, Chris Murphy at
Speaker 4: times if games go sideways. Tyler Schweitzer is still part
Speaker 4: of the White Sox bullpen as well. And I had
Speaker 4: a feeling that maybe Grant Taylor was going to be
Speaker 4: trying to push the two innings on Sunday before the
Speaker 4: White Sox offense exploded and gave a pretty big lead.
Speaker 4: So the bullpen may need to pick up more innings
Speaker 4: as we get closer to the postseason.
Speaker 5: I mean to a degree. I don't think you want
Speaker 5: to tax your core guys or expand their roles dramatically
Speaker 5: in some way. And Will Venables said this weekend that
Speaker 5: he didn't think that been a Burker Martin will really
Speaker 5: have Innyans caps this season. So now they're pretty stretched
Speaker 5: out unless they're showing like some particular type of wear.
Speaker 5: I don't think they're just trying to taper them necessarily
Speaker 5: going into you know, the postseason, because your your bullpen
Speaker 5: will be plenty well, you'll need them to be fresh
Speaker 5: for that since they'll probably the ones who have the
Speaker 5: roles expanded that time of year. I don't know if
Speaker 5: you want to like step on the gas in some
Speaker 5: systematic way before then. I certainly think like once you
Speaker 5: get in the postseason, once you're actually in those games,
Speaker 5: and like, yeah, everyone has to be pretty much rolling
Speaker 5: to get a third time trip to the order. Everyone's
Speaker 5: like on watch and their second time, especially those early
Speaker 5: rounds where you're talking, you know, your season most mostly
Speaker 5: spinning on one or two games. I think it certainly happens.
Speaker 5: They're just organically from like you know the value of
Speaker 5: those those individual innings, every single run. But as far
Speaker 5: as like thinking everybody's going to turn five and dive
Speaker 5: right now. If anything, I think the big thing they
Speaker 5: wanted the deadline is to kind of remedy that and
Speaker 5: not be in that situation as often, because that makes
Speaker 5: it trickier to use Taylor Newcombe back to back, and
Speaker 5: certainly like winning series sometimes.
Speaker 2: Can dictate that.
Speaker 5: So I certainly see that being like an element of
Speaker 5: their postseason strategy. But I think of it, I think
Speaker 5: they're trying to fortify in a way that they don't
Speaker 5: have to necessarily just have the bullpen pitch half the
Speaker 5: game on a regular basis, because like, that's not really
Speaker 5: sustainable and I think there's too much year left to
Speaker 5: start acting like you're near the finish line.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's fair. I then Davis is going to need
Speaker 4: to figure out what he can do, maybe post pitch
Speaker 4: seventy five to avoid the trouble that we saw this weekend.
Speaker 4: But something to monitor as the White Sox start this
Speaker 4: new thirteen game gauntlet that got a lot tougher for them.
Speaker 4: We'll be previewing the upcoming series at home against the
Speaker 4: New York Yankees, and then we're sending games down to
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay to cover that suits in the White Sox
Speaker 4: raise trade deadline. Three games in Boston, and then the
Speaker 4: Cleveland Guardians visit the White Sox. That's the next thirteen
Speaker 4: games for the White Sox. It'll be interesting to see
Speaker 4: how this starting rotation holds up, whether they can have
Speaker 4: the physical ability to go more than eighty five pitches
Speaker 4: to press through a third time to the order, but
Speaker 4: also are they still effective and games are not going
Speaker 4: sideways like it did on Friday for the White Sox.
Speaker 4: But a lot of factors played into that. And yeah,
Speaker 4: Sir Anthony, Dominguez was also very good on Friday. Either
Speaker 4: just made things really lopsided when it didn't need to be.
Speaker 4: But something to pay attention to in future starts. Now
Speaker 4: for the Chicago White Sox, this weekend was a big
Speaker 4: weekend for Munataka mr Kami. Murkami got a sushi roll
Speaker 4: named after him at Rye Field. You can check out
Speaker 4: our instagram at Sox Machine. I got a chance to
Speaker 4: try its and a lot of fans have been buying
Speaker 4: the sushi role at rate Field. It's twenty three dollars
Speaker 4: for per role. You can find him in section one
Speaker 4: fifty four at the Lucky Stand or there is a
Speaker 4: sushi cart that rooms around the stadium. So he got
Speaker 4: a sushi role, and then he got a bobblehead. On Sunday,
Speaker 4: his parents were in attendance and they threw out the
Speaker 4: first pitch. Lots of White Sox fans were in line
Speaker 4: waiting to get the Munataka Murakami bobblehead, and Murkami had
Speaker 4: a huge game on his bobblehead day in which he
Speaker 4: hit two homers for the second time. That's the second
Speaker 4: time this season he's had a multi home run game.
Speaker 4: As Murakami went three for five. He also drove in
Speaker 4: six RBIs for the White Sox and as far as
Speaker 4: his season numbers now, he has twenty two homers and
Speaker 4: forty eight RBIs with a three seventy eight on base
Speaker 4: percentage and slugging five forty three. So a big Sunday
Speaker 4: for Munataka, Murakami and Jim and he's finally off the Schneider.
Speaker 4: He finally hit a home run. Does it feel like
Speaker 4: the rust is breaking off with Murkami since he's returned
Speaker 4: off the injured list?
Speaker 6: I think so. I think you saw over the course
Speaker 6: of like the two weeks that he was warming up basically,
Speaker 6: was that early on, like he had the four strikeout
Speaker 6: game to start a few hitless games in a row.
Speaker 6: Then he starts seeing like the walks coming. You snapped
Speaker 6: his streak on Saturday. I think it was nine games
Speaker 6: in a row with a walk, And he saw at
Speaker 6: least the plate discipline there to where like the swing
Speaker 6: decisions were fine and he was making pictures come to him.
Speaker 6: So he had that part of his game still intact,
Speaker 6: and then he saw the bat to ball starting to
Speaker 6: improve in terms of some like you had that crush double. Yeah,
Speaker 6: some better ground ball ve lost these. He had near Homer,
Speaker 6: so he saw everything lining up towards him getting on time,
Speaker 6: and then yeah, on Sunday just all came together for him.
Speaker 6: And it's odd that I shouldn't say odd, but you
Speaker 6: don't often see it be I guess that lanear in
Speaker 6: terms of you know, he's warming up, he's getting closer,
Speaker 6: He's there. Like That's kind of how it seemed like
Speaker 6: over the course of the last two weeks of baseball play,
Speaker 6: was that he was kind of at sea early on,
Speaker 6: and then you just started seeing like, well, if he
Speaker 6: sticks with it, he should be rewarded, and then the
Speaker 6: reward came. So yeah, I think he's pretty close to
Speaker 6: where he was. I mean, he just needs to kind
Speaker 6: of do it for you know, maybe not six RBIs
Speaker 6: three games in a row, but in terms of just
Speaker 6: I think this form he's shown like over the Houston series,
Speaker 6: I think extrapolate that to a couple more series and
Speaker 6: all of a sudden he's back where he was.
Speaker 4: Also happened this weekend. He missed on Sunday's game, but
Speaker 4: Colson Montgomery fouled off another tough pitch off of his shin.
Speaker 4: This is the second time it's happened in the last week.
Speaker 4: He ended up hitting a double on Saturday to drive
Speaker 4: in the White Sox only run well, I say double,
Speaker 4: it should have been a double. It ended up only
Speaker 4: being a single because Coolest Montgomery is having a very
Speaker 4: tough time running down the first baseline. This is gholst
Speaker 4: to Montgomery pregame on Sunday about how his lower leg
Speaker 4: feels and what he is thinking as far as a
Speaker 4: return back to the White Sox lineup.
Speaker 8: The things it was above it, it didn't so I
Speaker 8: have the regular leg guard and then I had like
Speaker 8: a custom leg guard above the other one, and then.
Speaker 2: It hit like right above it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so oh No, I think it's just the other
Speaker 8: spot was already still pretty inflamed and you know, tight
Speaker 8: and sommer.
Speaker 2: So I think this morning kind of hitt in the air.
Speaker 8: It kind of just you know, it's still a little bit.
Speaker 4: More, not the one today.
Speaker 2: It's just either a one day thing, a couple of days.
Speaker 8: No, I just spent a little bit long. So, like
Speaker 8: I said, I think it's just something where you needed
Speaker 8: to get through today. You know, do some painful not
Speaker 8: painful treatment, but kind of things just to fush out
Speaker 8: smiling at things like that, but I did anticipate I'm.
Speaker 4: Playing tomorrow, James. You got a chance to chat with
Speaker 4: both Colson Montgomery and will Vennable. As far as his status,
Speaker 4: it doesn't sound like he needs to go on the
Speaker 4: injured list, which is good because fouling off pitches in
Speaker 4: that area could be really tricky and concerning. Is it
Speaker 4: imperative that the White Sox or even Coolson Montgomery try
Speaker 4: to push through and have him start playing on Monday?
Speaker 5: I think i'd say objection leading the witness. If you
Speaker 5: said push through, well that implies like maybe he's not
Speaker 5: really ready or he's gonna be he.
Speaker 4: Feels like he's ready. Like should I guess, do the
Speaker 4: White Sox have to protect him?
Speaker 5: I mean, it seems like you don't want to say,
Speaker 5: like a bruise is nothing, because you know, William Pergoa,
Speaker 5: it just broke his leg. You know, that was a
Speaker 5: sacerbation of whatever his situation was. Originally it was classify
Speaker 5: as a bruise. But it's at least the way he's
Speaker 5: describing is it's it's more about it's a pain tolerance thing,
Speaker 5: and it's kind of like the tightness and the movement
Speaker 5: restriction that he experiences from the pain, and they're trying
Speaker 5: to flush it out over the course of you know,
Speaker 5: will be past tense by now, but he was getting
Speaker 5: treatment of that all Sunday. His Coulson's perspective is like, well,
Speaker 5: that's gonna work and I'm going to feel better, so
Speaker 5: I'll be playing Monday, whereas well Venable it was just
Speaker 5: being more diplomatic of saying like, well, it really got
Speaker 5: him good, so there's a chance it won't be all
Speaker 5: the way resolved in terms of how he feels and
Speaker 5: thus how he can move by Monday, and maybe he
Speaker 5: sits that day too. So I don't think it's necessarily
Speaker 5: like it's gonna be like, well, he feels like crap,
Speaker 5: but we need this game, so he's gonna play. It's
Speaker 5: more of like one is the athlete brain of like, yes,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do it. I can make this happen. We're
Speaker 5: gonna get it done. And the other is the manager
Speaker 5: brain of like, well, there's actually, you know, infinite possibilities
Speaker 5: always at hand, and you never know what's gonna be.
Speaker 5: So I don't think it's like a I think if
Speaker 5: he's limited again, it's not going to be hey play
Speaker 5: at seventy percent, especially because we know like they can
Speaker 5: have like a even if it's at bats our finery,
Speaker 5: you know, obviously offers a power threat that the other
Speaker 5: team is the game plan more more or more sover
Speaker 5: differently than they would. For Lewis an Helakunya. You can
Speaker 5: see how he plays a very high demanding position, a
Speaker 5: choice up. If he can't move laterally, if he's just
Speaker 5: not as flexible as he normally is, that can affect
Speaker 5: them defensively in a way that can impact the game majorly.
Speaker 5: So I think it depends on how he feels. It
Speaker 5: doesn't seem like it's a certainly not an IL situation,
Speaker 5: but I don't I don't even necessarily think there's as
Speaker 5: much disagreement between what Colson is saying uh and what
Speaker 5: Vulnerable is saying.
Speaker 2: It's more just.
Speaker 5: The different perspectives on things like when like almost like
Speaker 5: even like we're waiting for more word on like the
Speaker 5: update on like what Teal is and like there's more
Speaker 5: tests that could change is like prognosis, and so I
Speaker 5: don't want to like say that it's not going to
Speaker 5: move around, but like the difference between like the manager
Speaker 5: saying six to twelve weeks and him saying five eight
Speaker 5: weeks could also just be like the same information, but
Speaker 5: also the athlete being like, I'm gonna get this done.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I have the optimistic outlook on this, I'm
Speaker 5: going to max this out. I Like, that's just how
Speaker 5: they're wired, so they're always going to be have like
Speaker 5: this kind.
Speaker 2: Of bullish estimation.
Speaker 5: Like in any like equitable situation between team and player,
Speaker 5: how they see it differently, Like you lean towards the
Speaker 5: athlete probably being more optimistic. It's probably when the team
Speaker 5: is pushing someone out out there that the player would
Speaker 5: be like, I don't know, I'll be back.
Speaker 2: But you so rarely ever hear that.
Speaker 5: It's like a red flag that something more is going
Speaker 5: on with that situation itself. You expect to hear like
Speaker 5: I'm playing tomorrow from everybody like that's that's how these
Speaker 5: guys operate.
Speaker 4: Well, Hopefully Colson Montgomery takes it easy and stops filling
Speaker 4: pitches off that shin because one a couple more times
Speaker 4: and it might get worse on him. So hopefully he
Speaker 4: does take the necessary rest. If the White Sox do
Speaker 4: give him another day off on Monday. Max Freed of
Speaker 4: the New York Yankees is scheduled to make that start.
Speaker 4: We'll be talking about that series in a quick moment
Speaker 4: Before we preview the series between the White Sox and Yankees,
Speaker 4: Let's take a look around the American League Central. As
Speaker 4: far as the Cleveland Guardians, they have now lost five
Speaker 4: straight games as they just got swept in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4: The Minnesota Twins won their series against the Sacramento Athletics
Speaker 4: and the Detroit Tigers in Kansas City. Royals ended up
Speaker 4: splitting the four games against each other, a bit of
Speaker 4: a disappointment for the Tigers. They won the first two games,
Speaker 4: but ended up losing games three and four in that series.
Speaker 4: So when you take a look at the American League
Speaker 4: Central standings, with that win for the White Sox on Sunday,
Speaker 4: they increased their lead to two and a half games
Speaker 4: over the Cleveland Guardians. Of the fifty five and forty
Speaker 4: nine record, the Guardians are only a game above five hundred.
Speaker 4: The Twins are only a game below five hundred, meaning
Speaker 4: the Twins are just a game back of the Cleveland Guardians,
Speaker 4: So that's a bit of a surprise. The Tigers are
Speaker 4: fifty fifty six, there's six games back of the White
Speaker 4: Sox and the Royals are eleven and a half games
Speaker 4: back at the bottom of the American League Central at
Speaker 4: forty five and sixty two. For White Sox fans, with
Speaker 4: the disappointing loss on Friday Night, especially with Cleveland losing
Speaker 4: and the White Sox coughing up that five to nothing
Speaker 4: lead against the Astros, just felt like a missed opportunity
Speaker 4: to pad the lead in the American League Central, so
Speaker 4: losing this series to the Houston Astros. Jim, I'll start
Speaker 4: with you, does this weekend feel like a missed opportunity
Speaker 4: for the White Sox to have had their lead in
Speaker 4: the American League Central?
Speaker 6: Technically yes, just because you know five nothing you know
Speaker 6: through with fournings to go is generally yeah. I'm not
Speaker 6: sure what the win probability is, but I imagine it starts
Speaker 6: at the nine. So yeah, they did miss an opportunity
Speaker 6: to go up three and a half games, But at
Speaker 6: this point, with still more than two full months in
Speaker 6: the season, I don't know if any one game matters
Speaker 6: much to say it's a missed opportunity that they'll never
Speaker 6: be able to make it up. Watching the Guardians. I
Speaker 6: think they've scored Let me look, yeah, they've scored four
Speaker 6: runs over their last four games. Then shout out two
Speaker 6: games in a row against the Rays for three of
Speaker 6: those four games, Like, the White Sox have that coming up,
Speaker 6: a weekend series against the Rays. So in terms of
Speaker 6: trying to figure out, you know, schedules and strength the
Speaker 6: schedule and what the draw is and terms headhead like,
Speaker 6: I think it's still a bit too early to break
Speaker 6: it down on a single game level, Like if they
Speaker 6: got swept, I think it might be a different conversation
Speaker 6: of just like, well, the race, the Race swept the
Speaker 6: Guardians and the White Sox, you guys swept by the Astros.
Speaker 6: When two of those games is winnable because we'll say
Speaker 6: the Sunday game that they theoretically lost, this conversation would
Speaker 6: have been when there you had a chance to win
Speaker 6: as well. But I think winning that game going away,
Speaker 6: kicking out of the pin, salvaging one out of three,
Speaker 6: I think that can keeps the ball moving, you know,
Speaker 6: just it's it's they're they're getting closer towards the goal.
Speaker 6: I think any weekend, any series where they finished better
Speaker 6: than they started is good enough, both in the very
Speaker 6: technical sense and also just this is a flawed team
Speaker 6: over a long season in a flawed division, so it
Speaker 6: is going to be ugly at times. And I think
Speaker 6: it's just mitigating or managing the ugliness that it doesn't
Speaker 6: break contain.
Speaker 4: The American League managing the ugliness. That's the season. That's
Speaker 4: the slogan for the twenty twenty six season, James. It doesn't.
Speaker 4: I know, Will Venables asked by other reporters in the
Speaker 4: scrums getting a chance to you as far as cut
Speaker 4: those videos which you can watch on YouTube dot com
Speaker 4: slash socks Machine, But it doesn't really seem like Venerable
Speaker 4: or any of the White Sox players at this moment
Speaker 4: are pressing that all we miss these opportunities, right. It
Speaker 4: seems like they're pretty level headed.
Speaker 5: Still, Yeah, I would say so every now and then,
Speaker 5: like Miguel Vargas probably like was the only one who
Speaker 5: pit on the question post game Sunday about like giving
Speaker 5: importance to being up in the standings, But even that
Speaker 5: it seemed like it was in more frame and just like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we we think we're gonna make the playoffs. We're we're
Speaker 5: gunning for that, and just like acknowledging it as important
Speaker 5: rather than like talking about scoreboard watching anyway. I don't
Speaker 5: know what you'd have to do to get venable to
Speaker 5: talk about like, oh man, we're really stressed out of
Speaker 5: the standings, or we're worried about these opportunities, Like he
Speaker 5: just is very I think it'd be a perfect example
Speaker 5: of like, you know, just torture wouldn't work. You could
Speaker 5: pull out a fingernails. I don't think he'd admit to
Speaker 5: like he like simultaneously we'd be like, yeah, of course
Speaker 5: we look at them, but also be like, of course
Speaker 5: that's we're not talking about. Like he got asked today
Speaker 5: like did you talk to his team about the importance
Speaker 5: of not getting sweats? He's like, no, they know we
Speaker 5: were here to win games, Like we're trying to win
Speaker 5: every game. They're all very important. I think they all
Speaker 5: know that. So I don't think he's gonna be like,
Speaker 5: oh man, this is a big opportunity Cleveland's playing the
Speaker 5: Rays or just like even mentioning the.
Speaker 2: Standings as like a folks at all.
Speaker 5: They're simultaneously aware of it to the point where it's
Speaker 5: like demystified but also not like their messages around like
Speaker 5: the series. This stretch is really important because then you
Speaker 5: theoretically you if you do have that sort of you know, mindset,
Speaker 5: you see stretches like where you know, you get up
Speaker 5: and play really well against the Dodgers and Braves and
Speaker 5: then have a let down against an opponent that maybe
Speaker 5: it seems like you should be able to handle. So
Speaker 5: I think they're not steering the ship towards that in
Speaker 5: any way. At the same time, it's not like a
Speaker 5: secret when you bring up what the standings are or
Speaker 5: that they're in the division race, but they're also just like,
Speaker 5: we're a good team, We're gonna be in it. It's
Speaker 5: gonna be close to the end, come on May.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and White Sox do control their own destiny. I
Speaker 4: maybe different if they were in the shoes of the
Speaker 4: Minnesota Twins three and a half games back, But no,
Speaker 4: the White Sox still have a two and a half
Speaker 4: game lead in the American League Central as now. They
Speaker 4: continue as far as their homestand with four games against
Speaker 4: the New York Yankees and the New York Yankees. As
Speaker 4: we are recording this, we're playing the Sunday night game
Speaker 4: against the Philadelphia Phillies. So the Yankees are either going
Speaker 4: to be fifty nine and forty six or sixty and
Speaker 4: forty five. Before Sunday Night's game, they had won their
Speaker 4: last three and they have won seven of their last ten,
Speaker 4: and they have been a very good team away from
Speaker 4: Yankee Stadium this year. The Yankees are thirty three and
Speaker 4: twenty two prior to Sunday Nights game against the Philadelphia Phillies.
Speaker 4: You're bitching problems for this series. Monday through Wednesday. These
Speaker 4: are six forty PMS Central Time starts, so on Monday
Speaker 4: it'll be a left handed starter for the Yankees, Max
Speaker 4: Freed against Noah Schultz the Chicago White Sox. Game two
Speaker 4: is a tough one for the White Sox's Gara Cole,
Speaker 4: who pitched very well against the White Sox at the
Speaker 4: Yankee Stadium earlier this year against Anthony k for the
Speaker 4: Chicago White Sox on Wednesday. The White Sox didn't get
Speaker 4: a chance to see Cam Schlitzler earlier this year, they
Speaker 4: will see him this time. Davis Martin will take the
Speaker 4: ball on Wednesday and on Thursday, getaway Day. This is
Speaker 4: the one ten pm Central Time start. Sean Berke will
Speaker 4: make the start for the White Sox against Ryan Weathers
Speaker 4: for the New York Yankees. So that's the pitching problems
Speaker 4: between the White Sox and the Yankees, and James Noah
Speaker 4: Schultz will be getting another start. So we talked in
Speaker 4: great length about Noah Schultz in her previous episode, and
Speaker 4: you mentioned that he has to find his slider because
Speaker 4: he was just too hit a bule in his last outing.
Speaker 4: You got a chance to catch up with Noah and
Speaker 4: chat with him. What is his mindset coming into Monday
Speaker 4: night start against the Yankees.
Speaker 5: Well, his mindset is quite interesting, he said, let me
Speaker 5: find it. He said, like this, there's only one really,
Speaker 5: only one way to move in this situation. Pressure is
Speaker 5: a privilege, fight or flight, natural selection, and people survive.
Speaker 5: You've got to prove how you stand a sustained position.
Speaker 5: So he's he's not under playing the stakes. I think
Speaker 5: he was viewing it more in terms of, like, you
Speaker 5: know they're in the first place, there's immediate feedback the
Speaker 5: major leagues. He was saying, like it's kind of good.
Speaker 5: You can't get away with like things you're not doing
Speaker 5: well the way you couldn't like double a. That's kind
Speaker 5: of this immediate feedback. So like he appreciates it from
Speaker 5: a development standpoint, rather than he's like speaking specifically to
Speaker 5: like the idea of like if I don't too well,
Speaker 5: I'm optioned sort of situation. I don't think it's like that.
Speaker 5: It was more like he understands that he's struggling. He
Speaker 5: understands that, like the team has high stakes and you know,
Speaker 5: obviously you're hunting at the deadline. Like these guys are smart,
Speaker 5: They're aware of things, are not like blithely like unaware
Speaker 5: of the news. But like I just think like he's
Speaker 5: very like, yeah, this this is what I wanted. This
Speaker 5: is you know, the sort of situation being where you
Speaker 5: have to prove yourself, Like it's kind of the boredom
Speaker 5: of the minor leagues that like everything doesn't really quite
Speaker 5: have the full stakes you want. You have to like
Speaker 5: press yourself to lock in the way you are up here.
Speaker 5: And I think guys like him and a lot of
Speaker 5: other major leagues tend to enjoy like the constant feeling
Speaker 5: of like the stakes here.
Speaker 2: So it does seem like he's locked into that.
Speaker 5: Now more brass sacks about like what goes into the game,
Speaker 5: like their bullpen talked to both Zach Bow and him
Speaker 5: about it was about working on it slider. What was
Speaker 5: interesting is that Bove asked me he started the conversation like, oh,
Speaker 5: you mean the curveball. And I was like, well, are
Speaker 5: you calling it the slider or the curveball. It's like, well,
Speaker 5: I call it. He calls the slider. I call it
Speaker 5: the curveball. And I was like, well, why does that distinction?
Speaker 5: Why does the distinction mean to you? And it because
Speaker 5: is is that emphasizing the shape that you wanted to
Speaker 5: take And he's saying, yes, we want something that drops.
Speaker 5: We wanted to get to negative between negative four negative
Speaker 5: six vertical you know IVB is what he was shooting for.
Speaker 5: Because they, especially to right handers, they feel like the
Speaker 5: east west sweepier version is not getting misses and not
Speaker 5: getting you know, enough ground balls, just we contact just
Speaker 5: not getting the results that they want. You know, his
Speaker 5: mis rate on is not bad. I feel like it's
Speaker 5: probably mostly coming. It's certainly higher left on left, but
Speaker 5: people are slugging really highly against it. They've been pushing
Speaker 5: earlier like hey, let's have a more vertical shape against
Speaker 5: right handers and then you can still throw the east
Speaker 5: west to sweepy version against lefties at your breaking ball.
Speaker 5: Now there's just like let's get the brass tacks. Let's
Speaker 5: simplify things for him. Let's have one breaking pitch and
Speaker 5: just try to repeat it. And so what they're going
Speaker 5: for is like, if we're gonna have one breaking pitch,
Speaker 5: we'll have the one that works against righty's and assuming
Speaker 5: we'll work against left he's too. And so that's like
Speaker 5: think about as a curve ball. We're trying to get
Speaker 5: all this negative vert action on it. So that's kind
Speaker 5: of the idea of One, No, it seems geared up
Speaker 5: for this, I think it's fair to say. And two,
Speaker 5: like they did spend the bullpen hammering on the slider,
Speaker 5: and he said, like they're looking at his mechanics from
Speaker 5: early in the year as far as what they're trying
Speaker 5: to replicate for his delivery. Obviously we're gonna speculate on here,
Speaker 5: like is thee hundred percent because he had the iel
Speaker 5: stent earlier this year. I think even if like you know,
Speaker 5: obviously he's out there and he's saying he's good to go,
Speaker 5: take it as a word. When you go through that,
Speaker 5: there's a natural inclination to compensate your mechanics or make
Speaker 5: adjustments from going through when you were in pain that
Speaker 5: you still have to work through and still have to
Speaker 5: hammer out in your reps even if you're not feeling
Speaker 5: an injury anymore. And I think Tana McDougal was like
Speaker 5: a great example of that when he was talking about
Speaker 5: I had the hamstring strain and then I was fine
Speaker 5: and was cleared, but I was still throwing like I
Speaker 5: was compensating from a handstring strain my next time out,
Speaker 5: and that's how I injured my flexer. So and I
Speaker 5: can talk recall like conversations with Lancelin about this after
Speaker 5: he had the surgery, who was just like, there's still
Speaker 5: so many habits in my delivery that I'm like still
Speaker 5: trying to hammer out that I started building up because
Speaker 5: I was pitching through.
Speaker 2: Like the issue with the knee that eventually, you know,
Speaker 2: required this.
Speaker 5: So I think, like him struggling mechanically, that that's an
Speaker 5: explanation for it that you know, tracks obviously remains to
Speaker 5: be seeing like how how can they get him on track?
Speaker 5: How much can they kind of hammer it out through
Speaker 5: midweek bullpen sessions and whatnot, and do we see it
Speaker 5: immediately in outings and you know, are we hitting up
Speaker 5: near his career high in innings already and how do
Speaker 5: they handle that? And there's you know, other moving parts
Speaker 5: it's part of that, but that's at lease like where
Speaker 5: they're targeting, you know, midweek with that session. They have
Speaker 5: to kind of you know, get him right.
Speaker 4: All right. So something to watch for podcast listeners on
Speaker 4: that Monday start for Doris Schultz is how well his
Speaker 4: slider or curve or slurve whatever they're calling this bitch,
Speaker 4: how effective it is. On the good news for Schultz,
Speaker 4: you will not have to face Cody Bellinger or Aaron Judge,
Speaker 4: both will be missing this series. And then on the
Speaker 4: offensive side, Jim, this is a tough test, especially when
Speaker 4: you look at the problem starters for the New York Yankees,
Speaker 4: and the way I'm kind of looking at it is
Speaker 4: this is a good test to see just how postseason
Speaker 4: ready this White Sox lineup is. And yes, they don't
Speaker 4: have Kyle Thiel, so they're not at full strength, but
Speaker 4: I'm not I guess I'm a little cautiously optimistic, but
Speaker 4: I am intrigued in how well this White Sox lineup
Speaker 4: does against these starting pitchers for the Yankees now that
Speaker 4: they're going to be facing the top arms and they're
Speaker 4: starting rotation.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it starts with Freed, who's lefty, and
Speaker 6: we're seeing that junior pres is being optioned. So it's
Speaker 6: manner of visit hayeser Pereira, and either one of those
Speaker 6: guys has been missing from the lineup, has been missing
Speaker 6: from outfield configuration. So I think that's gonna be something
Speaker 6: to where if they're looking for deadline help or what
Speaker 6: have you from the right side. Yeah, one game is
Speaker 6: not enough to say, you know, Hayeses fix it or
Speaker 6: Haeses washed or prayer the same thing. But it will
Speaker 6: be a case of like how deep does this lineup look,
Speaker 6: how challenging or how much of a challenge do they
Speaker 6: present to a lefty starter. You know, That's kind of
Speaker 6: what I'm looking at Monday. And then when it comes
Speaker 6: to Colon and Schlitler, it's just they're good, righties. They're
Speaker 6: good postseason pitchers like Game one or Game two. I mean,
Speaker 6: Yankees are deep enough to where like one of them
Speaker 6: might be Game three, depending on how like what kind
Speaker 6: of form Cole rounds into by the end of the year.
Speaker 6: But yeah, it's a case where Murakami like this would
Speaker 6: be a good time for his improvement to continue on
Speaker 6: that nice, smooth linear path to be that middle of
Speaker 6: the order threat the way that Ben Rice is right
Speaker 6: now for the Yankees of just having that middle of
Speaker 6: the order Masher, I think maybe, if anything, this is
Speaker 6: a case where you're having Colson not at one hundred
Speaker 6: percent or close to one hundred percent, Maybe it hurts
Speaker 6: them because when you have the White Sox lineup against lefties,
Speaker 6: you think, okay, migil Vargas has to have a big series.
Speaker 6: When you have the White Sox lineup against right eas,
Speaker 6: you think, okay, it's Murra Commy Montgomery, Like those are
Speaker 6: the three four or five guys who have to step
Speaker 6: up and so like without Montgomery being either active o c.
Speaker 6: If he plays Monday or just you're not expecting him
Speaker 6: to you expect him to weather through it right now
Speaker 6: versus flip the switch and be back to ninety five
Speaker 6: percent overnights. That's where he might see just being one
Speaker 6: bat short or being one thumper away. So I think
Speaker 6: it's a good test. I think it's probably more a
Speaker 6: matter of testing just the depth of their lineup against
Speaker 6: lefties and then for a matter of like Murra commy,
Speaker 6: I think that's probably what I'm looking at most. It's
Speaker 6: just how does he look because no matter what, like
Speaker 6: when you get to September, when you get to October,
Speaker 6: against teams that have this one two three, he's gonna
Speaker 6: be in the middle of it, and he is their
Speaker 6: biggest threat for offense. And so it's fun, Like this
Speaker 6: is uh what you sign up for when you're following
Speaker 6: a team that, uh, all of a sudden, every game matters,
Speaker 6: every series matters, or they can't take a series off,
Speaker 6: or we can't necessarily you know, say like oh it's
Speaker 6: a tough series and we'll look to rebound just because
Speaker 6: like you never know what's going to happen on the
Speaker 6: other you know, for the other teams that are chasing.
Speaker 6: So uh yeah, fun stuff when you have one, two
Speaker 6: three like this for the Yankees and whatever order and
Speaker 6: the White Sox are expected to respond and have a
Speaker 6: game plan for them and produce well.
Speaker 4: Again, you can be able to read the recaps on
Speaker 4: soxmachine dot com. James will be there covering the games
Speaker 4: for us. It'll be more pre and postgame videos as well.
Speaker 4: On our YouTube channel and YouTube dot YouTube dot com.
Speaker 4: Slash Sox Machine, of course, will be recapping the White
Speaker 4: Sox and Yankees podcast and an upcoming episode of the
Speaker 4: Sox Machine podcast if be released on Friday to see
Speaker 4: just how the White Sox fare and both the pitching
Speaker 4: and hitting side. This is a real tough test for
Speaker 4: the Chicago White Sox as we just a week away
Speaker 4: from the Mob trade deadline, but we do have a
Speaker 4: special episode coming midweek. The Chicago White Sox director of
Speaker 4: hitting Ryan Fuller, sat down with James Vegan to talk
Speaker 4: about the plans that the White Sox have with their
Speaker 4: recent draftees with Rock Schalowski and Landa Toomi. So if
Speaker 4: you want to learn more about the adjustments the White
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