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Speaker 1: Welcome to Dirty Rush The Truth about Sororiti Life with

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Speaker 1: your hosts me Gia Judice, Davey.

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Speaker 2: Kent, and Jennifer Kessler. Hi you guys, Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: another episode of Dirty Rush, Rush Week, Best Week of

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Speaker 2: your life or absolute nightmare. Let's get into it. So

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Speaker 2: now I am bringing in Logan. Hello, miss Logan. Hi,

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Speaker 2: how are you doing?

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Speaker 1: I'm so good?

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 2: We're good? So I heard that you have a story

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Speaker 2: for us. I heard that you really loved the rush process.

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Speaker 3: First of all, yes, I loved it so much.

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Speaker 4: I actually wasn't super involved until like the process and

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Speaker 4: now I'm like super close with the girls after it.

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Speaker 4: So it was like it was it really surpassed my expectations.

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Speaker 2: Wow, there was no nerves. There was I mean, it

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Speaker 2: sounds like you went in. Did you know a lot

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Speaker 2: about what it was going to be before it started

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Speaker 2: or was everything sort of a surprise to you?

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Speaker 3: I knew nothing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I also miss so we do spring rush and

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Speaker 4: we have recruitment workshops in the fall, and I missed

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Speaker 4: all of them because obligations.

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Speaker 3: So I knew nothing.

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Speaker 5: But it wasn't super complicated.

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Speaker 3: It was just so fun.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, well, tell us a story that you've have.

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Speaker 2: I'm very excited to hear it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So, basically, SO is known to be like one of

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Speaker 5: the top houses, and it can get competitive with you know,

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Speaker 5: on the row, and people like to talk about which

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Speaker 5: one is like the top.

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Speaker 4: So there's definitely, like, even though everyone says like it's not,

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Speaker 4: there's definitely a subconscious like competitiveness with.

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Speaker 3: Rush and getting the girls that we want.

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Speaker 4: And so there was another top house that wanted this

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Speaker 4: one specific girl.

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Speaker 3: She was like awesome, super cool, and so she was on.

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Speaker 4: Everyone's radar and they want Another top house accidentally dropped

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Speaker 4: her because they on their like computer system, they there

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Speaker 4: was a girl with the same name, and so they

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Speaker 4: switched it up and they rated her super low.

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Speaker 3: And once the ratings get sent in, there's nothing you can.

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Speaker 4: Do about it afterwards, and so every rating each day

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Speaker 4: carries on to like the next rounds, and so it's

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Speaker 4: really important to rate people like correctly.

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Speaker 3: Because then it can you know, because it's a two

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Speaker 3: way process. It's the house, but it's also panelmic who.

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Speaker 6: Like finalizes the rankings, and they accidentally dropped her and

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Speaker 6: they texted her, which was not allowed and they asked

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Speaker 6: her to drop the process so that they could give

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Speaker 6: her a snapped, but she ended up just going to

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Speaker 6: and so we have her now. But they really wanted her,

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Speaker 6: and apparently it was like a really big deal in

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Speaker 6: their house and they all got in trouble for it.

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Speaker 2: I have so much Wait, I have so many questions

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Speaker 2: around this. First of all, they into big trouble.

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Speaker 4: You can't do that totally, and you can't you're not

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Speaker 4: supposed to be texting.

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Speaker 2: No one ratted them out.

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Speaker 3: No, I know this from like a good friend.

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Speaker 2: Right, So yeah, oh so you guys were psyched. So

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Speaker 2: and the other question I have is what made her

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Speaker 2: such a valuable candidate? What was it about her that

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Speaker 2: everybody wanted her.

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Speaker 4: She's on a sports team, and we love like girls

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Speaker 4: who are athletes, is they're like really cool and they're driven,

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Speaker 4: and she's also like gorgeous and so of course like

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Speaker 4: like and she's like so nice and kind, and so

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Speaker 4: she was just one of the ones who, like, before Rush,

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Speaker 4: we were like notified to like look out for this girl.

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Speaker 4: And so I'm pretty sure with many of the other

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Speaker 4: sororities that was probably the same case. So she was

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Speaker 4: definitely someone that we had our eye on, and so

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Speaker 4: for girls like that, you have to be like really

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Speaker 2: Was she a star athlete?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so she's a freshman, but like even income even

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Speaker 4: last year, I know, people were talking about her she's

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Speaker 4: like just having that balance and we really like athletes,

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Speaker 3: Top of the list.

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Speaker 2: That is so interesting and I mean I think also

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Speaker 2: I'm almost positive that that is not like that sorties

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Speaker 2: a great thing because I think that that our listeners

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Speaker 2: brainyac maybe it's that you're an athlete, maybe it's that

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Speaker 2: you are so philanthropic, right, but that that is part

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Speaker 2: of the process figuring out not just like who's cute

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Speaker 2: in and why totally.

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Speaker 3: Totally, And that's like for us, Like.

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Speaker 7: I I think that's kind of what sets us up

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Speaker 7: for is because we do look for people in like

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, so we like to like we really want

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Speaker 4: and so that's like not knowing anything about the rush

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Speaker 4: process going in and hearing things like that is honestly

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Speaker 4: kind of refreshing because like you hear like the horror

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Speaker 4: stories about you know, other sororities and other schools where

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Speaker 4: it's like, oh, we're only looking for this type of

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Speaker 3: My house, that's not the case at all, which is

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Speaker 3: very refreshing to hear.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that it. Do you think that that's

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Speaker 2: of most of them are sort of more shallow for

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it honestly depends, because there are great

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Speaker 4: don't get along with than other houses as well, So

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Speaker 4: it kind of just a.

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Speaker 2: Possible logan that's not true.

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Speaker 4: Well not necessarily like not get along with, but people

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Speaker 4: like I probably wouldn't vibe with as much as other people,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so okay, So I love that story. I

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Speaker 2: think it's it's really insightful. Tell me about your personal experience.

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Speaker 2: I know it sounds like you loved it. You didn't

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Speaker 2: for you. Were there any moments where you like, what

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Speaker 3: I was more so on the like excited side.

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Speaker 4: I like talking to people a lot, and so like,

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Speaker 4: even on the first rounds when there were people who

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Speaker 4: still had a great time talking to them. And I

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Speaker 3: So like, just the process is like so cool.

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Speaker 4: Because you meet so many people, and yeah, it was awesome.

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Speaker 2: Like when you were going through though, like.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, wait, I loved Sorority rush on both sides.

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Speaker 3: Last year when I rushed, I loved.

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Speaker 4: It's the same thing like I loved like talking to people,

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Speaker 4: but I had We were here during the Palisades fire,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my daughter had that. So let me ask

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Speaker 2: you this, are you self confident person, you know, would

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Speaker 2: you describe yourself like going into it? We're just talking

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Speaker 2: it's going to work out. So it sounds to me

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Speaker 2: like going in you didn't have a lot of insecurity

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Speaker 2: they not like me? How do you approach it that

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Speaker 2: it was such a good experience. Do you think it

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Speaker 4: I think also for me going through spring rush, I

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Speaker 4: friends at schools with fall rush, a lot of their

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Speaker 4: who you're thrown into like life with, as you know,

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Speaker 4: I think really helped me to be more confident and

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Speaker 4: I like it's the cliche, but I think whatever is

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Speaker 4: meant to be truly will be. And not having your

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Speaker 4: mind set on a specific house before you go into it,

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Speaker 4: I think is the advice I could give because that

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Speaker 4: So I think that going through RUSH with just being

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Speaker 4: definitely the best way to go.

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Speaker 2: I love that. So let me ask you this, where

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Speaker 2: you at all conflicted in terms of what house to choose,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think that would be stressful, Like you know,

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Speaker 2: it feels like maybe it is a really important decision.

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Speaker 2: Were you so or did you just know?

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Speaker 3: I kind of knew.

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Speaker 4: The second I walked into Like it's like it's so cliche,

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Speaker 4: but truly, like that was the house that I was

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Speaker 4: nurs It was like, I'm so anxious to go into

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Speaker 3: I was conflicted a little.

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Speaker 4: Bit at the reference around because the other house that

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Speaker 4: I want to did really well, like just like making

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Speaker 4: you feel like so wanted there. But I just thought

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Speaker 4: to myself, I was like, what, like, not not just

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Speaker 4: like that is what led me to my decision.

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Speaker 2: Are you an athlete?

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Speaker 8: No?

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Speaker 3: But I was in high school.

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Speaker 2: You're okay, Yeah, you're athletic. I hope. Yes, it sounds

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Speaker 2: like you had a great experience, which we love. And

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Speaker 2: are you having as good of an experience being in

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Speaker 2: a sorority?

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Speaker 3: Yes? Wait, sorry, yes, having so much fun.

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Speaker 2: It's awesome, all positive. Yes, we love that. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: not surprised. I look at you. You're adorable and sweet and.

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Speaker 3: I want you.

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Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Oh, thank you so much, thank you

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Speaker 10: I went to Loyola Marymount University in LA and I

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Speaker 2: So was my daughter. Okay, not at Loyola. Oh and

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Speaker 2: we're talking about Rush. If you liked it, if you

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Speaker 10: So my Rush experience was kind of like this call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's so great. Were you? And it's a weird question,

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Speaker 2: right now, Ellen, here's the place for you. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 2: So, Kristin, what school did you go to? Do you

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Speaker 2: What Storty were you in? I was in dig Okay,

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Speaker 2: So we're talking today about Rush and we're getting a

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Speaker 8: And I think that being vulnerable like allows you know,

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Speaker 2: And it doesn't have to be you know, you don't

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Speaker 8: because there's pressure to be in the same sorority as

442
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 8: like a family member or you know, following in that legacy.

443
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:35,879
Speaker 8: But really going into the experience like very authentically, you like,

444
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,399
Speaker 8: that's how you find where you're.

445
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 6: Supposed to be.

446
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 3: And I feel like that's really important.

447
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 2: What was it do you think during during rush that

448
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 2: really just convinced you to go DGI? Right is what

449
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 2: you said. Yeah, we have a lot of DJs today.

450
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 8: So the girl that I met on the first day

451
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 8: ended up being my big I think that there was

452
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 8: just like we just had such a great conversation. I

453
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 8: don't even remember what it was about at this point,

454
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 8: but it just felt like I could see a friendship

455
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 8: with her and with all the other girls that I

456
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,919
Speaker 8: talked to, And it was very different with all the

457
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 8: other conversations I had with the different houses. It was

458
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 8: just a feeling, I think for me, and I still

459
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 8: went into each house with a very open mind because

460
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 8: when I went to Boulder, I didn't know anyone really

461
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 8: in a sorority, so I didn't have, you know, the

462
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,120
Speaker 8: stereotypes of what each sorority was, which ones were the

463
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 8: top houses, which were the bottom. So I wanted to

464
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 8: go in and make sure that I was picking for

465
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 8: me and not just like what was cool. And that

466
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,159
Speaker 8: kind of played into the role of my roommate and

467
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 8: I didn't really talk about what houses we liked and which.

468
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 2: Funny, we were just talking about this. Yeah. We talked

469
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: about this a couple of times with a couple of

470
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 2: callers about how if you can try not to compare

471
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 2: and contrast with your roommate or your friends the are

472
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: going through it, maybe that maybe that's helpful.

473
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 8: Yeah, And we ended up in the same house. But

474
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 8: that's just that we were you know, meant to like

475
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 8: be but right.

476
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 3: I thought that that was.

477
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 8: Really important too, because especially the pressures of you know,

478
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,919
Speaker 8: getting dropped the next day or if you didn't have

479
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,239
Speaker 8: the best conversation with someone, you know, forcing that is

480
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 8: not very good. I think that in it, just understanding

481
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 8: what you like, the good conversations that you have is

482
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 8: the best way to do it. Yeah.

483
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, was it all positive your experience? Were there any negatives?

484
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 8: No, it was all positive for me. I got back

485
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 8: each house that I wanted every day, so it was

486
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 8: kind of my decision which ones to drop, which is

487
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,720
Speaker 8: very lucky. There was no heartbreaks in you know, opening

488
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 8: the list the next day and losing a house that

489
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 8: or getting dropped from a house that I wanted to

490
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 8: be at. So I think that made my experience way

491
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 8: more pleasant because you can see girls around you so

492
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 8: upset and bummed about, you know, getting dropped.

493
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 2: Well, also, I want to also have you sort of

494
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,000
Speaker 2: again talk a little bit about how you didn't find

495
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: out top tier what like, that's not an easy thing

496
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: to I don't know any kids, and I have to

497
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 2: One of that was in frat woman in a sorority,

498
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,680
Speaker 2: but like that went into it and didn't know exactly

499
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 2: what was top tier. Did you have to like make

500
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: a conscious effort to not find out?

501
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: Well, it could.

502
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,440
Speaker 8: As the days went on, it got harder to do

503
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 8: that because the girls in line were talking about how

504
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 8: much they loved this house, and then you know, it

505
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 8: was a little bit quieter at other houses, and you know,

506
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 8: you could feel the energy in the line based on

507
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 8: like what was considered top house, because there are some

508
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 8: girls that put so much pressure on, you know, being

509
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 8: like their best selves for that house. But I just

510
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 8: kind of wanted to I really just based on the

511
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 8: conversations I had throughout the day and what girls I

512
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 8: could see myself being friends with.

513
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 2: Did you have advice before the experience? Did your mom

514
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,720
Speaker 2: tell you this? And this is because I just think

515
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 2: that's such a great mature way to go into it.

516
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: My daughter went into it, and there was nothing I

517
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: could say to her. She wanted the top tier. I

518
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: was like going to throw up every time she'd say it.

519
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 8: I know, because that just makes it so much scarier

520
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 8: to me. Yeah, but my mom, she was in a sorority.

521
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 8: She went to buck now and she's still like best

522
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 8: friends with all of her her sisters, and my older

523
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 8: sister has great friends, and she did it the year

524
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 8: prior and she had a relatively good experience with hers too,

525
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 8: like she ended up becoming RUSH chair a few years

526
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 8: down the line. But I think it all stems back

527
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 8: to moving when I was younger, because you never know

528
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 8: what will happen when there's change, and just being okay

529
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 8: with adapting to it and whatever happens happens and it's

530
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 8: meant to be. And I've kind of always approached RUSH

531
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 8: in that same same way because I knew that, you know,

532
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 8: if that didn't work out, there's something well and you know,

533
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 8: if you put so much pressure on it, you're just

534
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 8: gonna get let down.

535
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: And I didn't want that. You know, as a freshman

536
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 3: first semester.

537
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 2: You knew, you said. I think you said you knew

538
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: right away or did you say you didn't know right away?

539
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 2: I can't remember, Like like when you first spoke to

540
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: this DG. Was it like, Okay, this one's for me

541
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: or did it take while?

542
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 8: It definitely went up my list, and every day I

543
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 8: was like very excited to go back because each time

544
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 8: I met, you know, a new girl that I really liked,

545
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 8: but there were still other houses that I was like

546
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 8: happy to go to I really liked I think two

547
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 8: of the other ones. So as the days went on,

548
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 8: I kind of started leaning more towards DGI because those

549
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 8: conversations just kept getting better, and you know, girls would

550
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 8: come up and say hi from previous days, and it

551
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 8: like felt good to be remembered. And I remember on

552
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,200
Speaker 8: pref nite, I was in between obviously two sororities and

553
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 8: they come down the stage and kind of take you

554
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 8: into this like more ceremony type night, and I knew

555
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 8: who was going to be coming down the stairs for

556
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 8: me in DG, but for my other house, I had

557
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 8: no idea, and every girl that I had talked to,

558
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 8: I thought, oh, maybe her, And then they picked up

559
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 8: another girl and then I was paired with this random

560
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 8: girl on the last night. So I was like, that

561
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 8: kind of proved to me too that it wasn't right right.

562
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 8: That was like a big tell for me. So it

563
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 8: was easy the next day after that to decide that

564
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 8: I wanted to be a DG.

565
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: It's funny, you know, obviously everyone has different experiences, and

566
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 2: I think it's different at every school. And now I

567
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 2: think of Boulder because I have a lot of friends

568
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 2: now with kids there, and I think of the school itself.

569
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: My kids didn't look at it. I wish that they had,

570
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: but I think of the school itself as sort of

571
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,879
Speaker 2: more laid back. It's, you know, outdoorsy. I don't know

572
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: that it's crunchy, but I feel like what I've heard

573
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,199
Speaker 2: is that kids that go to Boulder are I don't know,

574
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 2: accepting and tend to be, not all of them outdoorsy

575
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: and nice and kind and all of that. I wonder

576
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: if it's a different experience at Boulder, you know.

577
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,400
Speaker 8: There's definitely an aside to that. I think that there

578
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 8: it is pretty intense. At the same time too, it

579
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 8: is a big part of the social aspect at Boulder

580
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 8: is Greek life, especially for I would say the first

581
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 8: two years, and then you know, once you hit junior year,

582
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 8: you've kind of established your friend group and that can

583
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 8: be within your sorority or you might have like a

584
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 8: few friends outside that. But ninety nine percent of my

585
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 8: friends still to this day we're all in my same sorority.

586
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 8: So there is the intensity around that too.

587
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Anything that you would recommend do differently,

588
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: like the most any sort of things that we could

589
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: have our listeners tell our listeners about.

590
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think that the most important thing is to

591
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 8: stay authentic to yourself and not put too much pressure

592
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 8: on rush. It is such an amazing thing if you

593
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 8: let it be, and it can change your life in

594
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 8: some amazing ways, and be ready for that. But it

595
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 8: might take some twists and turns along the way, and

596
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 8: it might not go as you expect it, but it

597
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 8: always works out. You know, it might seem like a

598
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 8: life or death thing freshman year, and then later down

599
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 8: the line you realize that it was meant to be

600
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 8: and you'll find your people, you'll find your happiness. Just

601
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 8: like trust the process. I know they always say that,

602
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 8: but I truly believe that you have to believe in

603
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 8: that to like find happiness within like sorority life, because

604
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 8: there is a lot of pressure and I think that

605
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:49,239
Speaker 8: it's not necessary some of the times. But yeah, just

606
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 8: be important to be yourself and everything will work out.

607
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: You know, as you're talking, I'm thinking, and I haven't

608
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: asked anyone this before, but like we talked a little

609
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: bit with some of the girls about Okay, my sorority

610
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: was perfect because we really love athletes, and I was

611
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 2: very athletic in high school. Was there anything in your sorority,

612
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: any sort of I don't know, attribute or characteristic of

613
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: your sorority that you really related to, Like all the

614
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 2: girls are brainiacs or you know, these girls are very

615
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: down to earth.

616
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, we have this saying that you know, all dji's

617
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 8: work hard and play hard, so like we all wanted. Yeah,

618
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 8: we wanted to work hard in terms of like school

619
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 8: and friendships and like our relationships with our families, but

620
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 8: also like there is that aspect of having fun and

621
00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 8: doing it all together and doing it to you know,

622
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 8: whatever extremes you kind of want to do, And we

623
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 8: all were like there for each other. And I think

624
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 8: that it shows that I'm still friends with twelve of

625
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 8: my like sorority sisters to this day. Yeah, like texting

626
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 8: every day, you know, family At this point, it's they're

627
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 8: the best friends I could ask for. Even like my parents,

628
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 8: they always say that I found the best friends out

629
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 8: of like any of.

630
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: My sisters feel like that.

631
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 8: My sisters, I think they have some some jealousy towards it.

632
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 8: My friends were just an amazing group of girls and

633
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 8: so lucky that I found them and it took becoming

634
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 8: a DGI to find them so.

635
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 3: Incredible.

636
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: That's so great. Okay, you guys, So now we are

637
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: bringing in Abby. Welcome to Dirty Rush.

638
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: Thanks.

639
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: So, I know you went to Bulger and Abby, what

640
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: sorority were you in?

641
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: I was in Delsea, Gamma.

642
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 2: Okay, gee, we're talking really about Rush today, and we've

643
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: talked to quite a few girls, some who loved it,

644
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: some who liked it, and some who hated it. And

645
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: I think it's it's really interesting to you know, get

646
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 2: to hear from all ends of the spectrum. So you know,

647
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit if you would, about your

648
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 2: Rush experience.

649
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I really honestly loved Rush.

650
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 11: I think I had an interesting experience before coming into

651
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 11: college because I went to really small girls school, kind

652
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 11: of grew up with the same group of girls almost

653
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 11: my whole life, and they're still my best friends. So

654
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 11: when I went to like a huge, massive state school

655
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 11: where I didn't know anyone and we rushed first semester,

656
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 11: I kind of just jumped into it to kind of

657
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 11: look for the sisterhood that I had grown up with.

658
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 11: So that aspect was really fun because I kind of

659
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 11: got to like thee which house, So which group of girls,

660
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 11: whether there were whether it was the girls who I

661
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 11: was rushing with or the older girls who were already

662
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 11: in houses, Like I kind of got to see which

663
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 11: group of people like almost reflected my friends from home

664
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 11: or like the girls that I grew up with.

665
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: Well, tell me a little bit if you wouldn't mind,

666
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: what did that mean for you?

667
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 8: So?

668
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 2: What were you looking for? Would the girls at home

669
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: have that you were looking for in a sorority?

670
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 12: In sorority sisters just like unconditional love, but also like

671
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 12: being totally yourself and being comfortable with each other's family

672
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 12: and being weird and like not being serious.

673
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: It was hard to know if that was those kinds

674
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: of if you know you were in rush, it happened

675
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: so quickly, could you identify those girls? Do you feel

676
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: like it was you were able to know, you know

677
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: which house was right for you looking for that type

678
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: of girl.

679
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely felt it. I felt it after the first.

680
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 11: Day after seeing every house for sure, Like I definitely

681
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 11: felt like there were houses where sometimes like my conversations

682
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 11: with people maybe didn't feel as genuine or like it

683
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 11: didn't flow the same way. We didn't get as deep

684
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 11: as some of the other places. So I had a feeling,

685
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 11: and then as the gays went on, it kind of

686
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 11: like each one separated more and more. So like I

687
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 11: knew from the beginning, I also went into bolder not

688
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 11: knowing anything about the houses. I didn't know what was

689
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 11: considered like a super social house or you know, like

690
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 11: a I didn't really know any of that.

691
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: Would you recommend that? Do you think that's that made

692
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: it easier or harder?

693
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 11: I think I preferred it that way for me because

694
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 11: I think if I knew, like I would have, if

695
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 11: I knew maybe the stereotypes or whatever each house, I

696
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 11: would have probably put more pressure on myself and like

697
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 11: thought thought through the things that I would say more.

698
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 11: But I remember after the first day, like the conversation

699
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 11: that I had in at Delta Gama, which is obviously

700
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 11: what I ended up being, was so like off topic

701
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 11: in a way, like it just.

702
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 2: Do you remember what it was?

703
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 1: Honestly?

704
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 11: Like no, but I remember it was my last house

705
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 11: of the day, but the first two days it was

706
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 11: the last house I had, and I didn't have a

707
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 11: voice like either of those days anymore. And so like

708
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 11: the girls who I was talking to, like we went

709
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 11: outside where it wasn't super loud and I didn't have

710
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 11: to scream, and like kind of just joked around about

711
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 11: the fact that like I was.

712
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: In rush and I could barely talk right, so just

713
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: like kind of goofy, But yeah, it was great. I

714
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: also really loved it because.

715
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 11: At the end of the day, like people liked to

716
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 11: talk about themselves, and I think like Rush was a

717
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 11: really fun place where you could talk.

718
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: I could talk about things that like I loved or

719
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: I was excited about, are passionate about to other girls.

720
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 11: And like if they you could immediately tell if they

721
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 11: were the same, if they had the same passions as

722
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 11: you did and cared about the same things, because like

723
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 11: that's what you talk about.

724
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: So can you give me one example of that. I'm

725
00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 2: always thinking, like when I'm talking to our guests, thinking

726
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 2: about who's about the listeners, And so that's why I

727
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: like to try to excuse me for that, but like

728
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 2: kind of push to be specific, but like anything sort

729
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: of specifically.

730
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: Oh, specifically, like specifically the things that like I'm passionate

731
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 1: about that I would.

732
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: Talk about, Yeah, that you wanted to hear, like you

733
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: wanted to connect on Like, yeah, I.

734
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 11: Think that I would always ask people like and I

735
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 11: would get this question too, one of us would always

736
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 11: ask it first. I feel like like like talking about

737
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 11: where I grew up, in my family and my friends,

738
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 11: and like I remember someone asked me like how would

739
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 11: you describe your friends?

740
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: And then how would your friends describe you?

741
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 11: So like I was always I mean, like I said earlier,

742
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 11: like I was always really passionate about my friends.

743
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: That's like, those are like my people.

744
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,959
Speaker 11: So when I had gotten there, like I was super

745
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 11: passionate about talking about them. But then also like I

746
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 11: feel like I talked about such random things, like like

747
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 11: I played lacrosse growing up, so like I talked about

748
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 11: that where and that was more of like an.

749
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: East Coast thing versus the West Coast thing. So like

750
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: talking to the West Coast girls about the sports they

751
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: like and getting to explain the sports that I would play,

752
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: and really.

753
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: Like just sort of getting actually like you know, getting

754
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 2: past the you know, hi, how are you?

755
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 9: Oh?

756
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it And I had great friends and

757
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: but sort of like it sounds like you were able

758
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: to dive a little deeper.

759
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. I Also I think that this is s different

760
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: for everyone.

761
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 11: But when I was in high school, I did like

762
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 11: over one hundred hours of community service, which I was

763
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 11: really really passionate about, like, and I specifically focused in

764
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 11: like one area of community service.

765
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: So I also.

766
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 11: Really liked talking about that, even though like it, even

767
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 11: though I didn't get as many hours of community service

768
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 11: in college, but that was like a big thing for

769
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 11: me because you can kind of tell on like obviously

770
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 11: everybody has a community service aspect or philanthropy connects to

771
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 11: their house, but like you could totally you can totally differentiate,

772
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 11: like which philanthropy means most.

773
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: To you and why right right.

774
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 11: I didn't ultimately make my decision based on that, but

775
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 11: it was definitely a factor and it was definitely like

776
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 11: you could you could really dive into that with people

777
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 11: if it does interest you.

778
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like you have you had a really

779
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 2: good experience. Was there anything that you know wasn't great?

780
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 2: You know, everybody's nervous, right, and and I know that

781
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 2: I don't even you know more today after talking to

782
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 2: so many girls, but it's not usually a straight line.

783
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 2: There's there's anxiety and you know, yeah, there's that feeling

784
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: maybe a being judged. You know, some girls fly through it,

785
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: others not so much. Did you have any moments that

786
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: were more difficult?

787
00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 1: Definitely, like waiting to hear back. I was like so anxious,

788
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,439
Speaker 1: especially as the days progress because you obviously like cut

789
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 1: down on the amount of houses you have.

790
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 11: And yeah, it's an anxiety britten like ours was. I

791
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 11: don't know, maybe like five straight days. I think now

792
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 11: it can be longer, right, or like even split up.

793
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 11: So I think like doing your best distract yourself. And

794
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 11: then also like I had to, I kept reminding myself

795
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 11: the whole time, like even if my friends are in

796
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 11: a different house, literally has no effect in your social life.

797
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 11: And like the older you get, the lesson matters, like

798
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 11: I remember, like when I had first moved or after

799
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 11: I graduated, like I hang out with girls all the

800
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 11: time who weren't in my sorority and we would hang

801
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 11: out with them in college and things like that, Like

802
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 11: you can let it define yourself as much as you want.

803
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: So like with that that can kind of be helpful

804
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: to you, see anxiety, I guess.

805
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, would you give any advice you would give

806
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 2: to girls that are you know, going to go through rush?

807
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say, I would say, like even more

808
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,479
Speaker 1: so than staying true yourself elf, Like don't there's never

809
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: a house or someone who's rushing you that's like looking

810
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: for a specific answer. Like there's like going to X

811
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: house versus Sea house. Like they're not looking for one

812
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: answer and they're not looking for one answer.

813
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 4: So like.

814
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 11: If there's no there's nothing right. So you know, like

815
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 11: just put yourself on the line. It's super like intimidating

816
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 11: and stuff, but that's on the flip side of it.

817
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 11: At rush, like that's when we can feel we can

818
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 11: connect the most with the girls who we want to

819
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 11: be in our house.

820
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: So I would say, like throw it all on the line.

821
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: Who cares?

822
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 4: You know.

823
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: That's been that's sort of been a theme today talking

824
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 2: about how allowing yourself to be a little vulnerable during

825
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 2: this process, you know, not it's not therapy, you know,

826
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 2: not going in in with your deepest, darkest, but allowing

827
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: you know to talk maybe a little bit about well,

828
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: you know, I'm a little nervous about this, or you know,

829
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: I had a hard time with this, or I learned

830
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: a lot. I was used to be insecure. I don't know.

831
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just making this up, But do you

832
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: think that's that's helpful? Because I know there's a lot

833
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: of posing that goes on.

834
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 11: Yeah, no, I think that that is I think that

835
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 11: that is helpful. I also think like it's it's not

836
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 11: like vastly important, but it's also kind of good to

837
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 11: re read the person who you're talking to. Like if

838
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 11: you're talking to someone and it's not clicking, like use

839
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 11: it as practice, but like you don't have to force

840
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 11: the conversation. You know, your odds are you'll come back

841
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 11: to the house the next day and you'll talk to

842
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 11: someone else and it will click.

843
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 1: Like you just never know.

844
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 11: So I would say, like, also, don't beat yourself up

845
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 11: on like if you have a conversation that maybe didn't

846
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 11: leave you feeling like on the moon, it doesn't. Yeah,

847
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 11: everybody's different, even within the same house.

848
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love that. That's great advice. So do

849
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: you feel like the process allowed you to get into

850
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: the house you were supposed to get into? Obviously you do,

851
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: but I do, Yeah.

852
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 4: I do.

853
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 11: I definitely do. I what I was looking for. I

854
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 11: definitely found like I found the right people. It was

855
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 11: it was perfect and I'm very lucky. But I also

856
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 11: understand that that's like not the case for every single person.

857
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: Sure, but yeah, I do feel like it. It served me, right.

858
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: Do you like being on the other side of it?

859
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: Do you like talking to the girls going through rush,

860
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: which is oh my god? Yeah, yeah, I loved.

861
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: I think I liked being on the other side of

862
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: it more because.

863
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: Like less pressure.

864
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know if it's less pressure, but like

865
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 1: I remember, even like as seniors, when you're kind of

866
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: older and like you're like, these aren't going to be

867
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 1: your littles, like right there were like we all would

868
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 1: meet girls and like get so obsessed with them and

869
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: like fight over who gets to talk to them, and

870
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: like it's so nerve wracking for us because we're like

871
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: we want you to pick us. Yeah, but like I

872
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: really liked the other side of it too, because I

873
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm an older sister, so like it is

874
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: also fun to kind of like.

875
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're big sistering them. Yeah, yeah, I love that. Okay,

876
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: my friend, thank you so much for all this. We appreciate.

877
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: Thank you.

878
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to our listeners, you have some good stuff here,

879
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: so you know, take notes. Thank you for coming on.

880
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Speaker 9: Thank you, Bye bye bye.