1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Ronan, they want to repair shop is like the general 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: store of years gone by. It's that place where people gather, 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: where they feel safe, where they feel secure. They come 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: in and they just say the darnedest things to the place, 5 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. I got a block. It's between the 6 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: tap off and the rear past. And you're saying, but 7 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: so guess what I'm gonna be redoing all of that 8 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: in handmade steel lines with gravel garden. You know what. 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: You know what we always say anything we're doing is 10 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: we're doing again. Welcome to the radio home of ron 11 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: and Anian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in the garage to 15 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: orders are open, but I am here to take your 16 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: calls at eight five five and now running well and 17 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: happy fourth of July weekend everybody. Right, Well, we're not 18 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: supposed to date it. Never date the show. Never make it. 19 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: You're making bread run. That's what they told me thirty 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: one years ago. So you know what, I always follow 21 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: the rules. Happy fourth of July to everybody, because what 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: the heck, nobody else follows the rules anymore. A couple 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: of places I could talk about, but I want to 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: get political. UM. I got a lot going on. I 25 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: had a lot busy week in the shop. It was 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 1: um and I appreciate all your comments. Everybody loves the 27 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 1: Danny stories. Those are all true. UM. I don't think 28 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: there's anything else exciting to happen this week. UM, well, 29 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: nothing I can tell you about on air. I don't 30 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about this Honda. UM. We 31 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: had an O nine Honda cr V, and if you 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: own a Honda product, you're gonna want to listen to 33 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: this story because you probably have this problem and you 34 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: may or may not have been able to get it 35 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: fixed up till now. The car doctors got the fix. 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: I got an O nine hon To CRV presented to 37 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: me on Monday this week, and the complaint was that 38 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: the car would buzz, you know, like a giant b 39 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: every time you turn the ignition key if you caught 40 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: it about I don't know, somewhere between key on where 41 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: the dashlights would come on and crank where the starter 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: actually engaged about a degree and a half for two 43 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: degrees of rotation just before you get and then the 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: car would start every time. I've been doing it for 45 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: quite some time. The vehicle owner had taken it to 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 1: a bunch of different shops, and nobody was able to 47 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: tell them, and they wanted to try a starter, and 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: they wanted to try a couple of different odds and ends, 49 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: and nothing seemed to be able to make this car 50 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: work right. It just we're throwing parts at it. And uh, 51 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: you know, we have a regular uh customer who knew this, 52 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: gentleman Richard with the O nine hon. Then he says, 53 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: you know what, take it a wrong, Ronald, figure it out, 54 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: good old wrong. So on nine on to see V 55 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: shows up on my doorsteps. Sure enough, I can duplicate 56 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: the problem. Give me a car. I can duplicate the problem. 57 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: I'll figure it out. When you look at the starter 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: circuit on any typical Honda, it's it's power comes in 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: from the IGNITIONCE, which generally on a yellow wire, comes 60 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: in and it feeds the underdash relay box. I'm sorry, 61 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: comes from the ignition S, which on the yellow wire 62 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: feeds the underdash relay box. That starter the the underdash 63 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: relay box, it feeds a starter relay, which obviously, when grounded, 64 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: it goes through and feeds the starter soloid, which activates 65 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: the starter. Now I knew it wasn't a starter issue. 66 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: The car started every time. There have been some times 67 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: where I've seen them buzz and it's a bad starter, 68 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: but that's a different animal. We're not dealing with that. 69 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: This is just this is an annoyance, and as the 70 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: vehicle owner said, you know, Ron, I just want to 71 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: make sure that I'm safe. I take this car all 72 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: over the place. I go to Watkins Glen, I travel 73 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: into Pennsylvania, I go down South with it. Even though 74 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: it's old, I wanted to be reliable. I don't like 75 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: this sound, rest orch told me after doing some because 76 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, I'm going to that this is a common complaint. 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: A lot of you Honda owners out there are saying, hey, 78 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: my Honda buzzes, and nobody seems to be able to 79 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: tell them what's wrong with it. Well, when I broke 80 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: it down, I pulled the starter relay and the buzz 81 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: went away. So I know it's the starter relay that's buzzing. 82 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 1: But as the starter relay bad, I guess it could be. 83 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: So it turns out that right next or two spots 84 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: away from it, there's another relay exact same part number. 85 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: I think it ran powered door locks or some such thing. 86 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: Might have been a headlight control relay of some type. 87 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: I don't remember what. The diagram set off the top 88 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: of my head right in front of me now, but 89 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: same part number swapped relays that didn't do it still buzzed. 90 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: All right, Now we're gonna have to get creative well 91 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: coming out the ground leg of the relay because it 92 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: was too hard. You know, I could have pulled the 93 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: fuse box down, but to pull the fuse box down, 94 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: you're gonna take a part that corner of the dash, 95 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: and now you're gonna start disturb more than a few 96 00:04:55,720 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: electrical connectors. And I don't like disturbing electrical connectors a speed. Actually, 97 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: when I'm dealing with what's an obvious electrical fault, you know, 98 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: the problem that goes away because you touched this, I 99 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: want to know what it is before I touched that. 100 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: I want to see the problem. So when I go 101 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: and I touched that, I got access to it. Boom, 102 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: it's that. So I decided to attack it. You know, 103 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: tell me what's good I'll tell you what's bad. What 104 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: do I always tell you guys? Ground one oh one 105 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: is right on top of the intake manifold. It's really 106 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: easy to get to G one O one. It has 107 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: two black too brown with the yellow going to it 108 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: and the two black or what I was after. And 109 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: I voltage dropped the two blacks coming off of that 110 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: ground and they were fun. One was I think a 111 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three milli volts. The other one was 112 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: a hundred and eighteen milli volts. It's not a computer circuit, 113 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: it's a starter relay. It's basic electricity. Hundred three milli volts. 114 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't bother me. Move on next, the next thing up 115 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: the line on the ground side. Because I had a 116 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: suspicion that this was this had something to do with 117 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: application of either voltage or ground. Something wasn't properly getting through, 118 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: so I started the backtrack. Ground was good. I then 119 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: went to the trans range switcher is Honda calls at 120 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: the trs. The trans range switch is the last piece 121 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: of the puzzle. It's grounded or it's applying ground. Ground 122 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: path passes through that switch when it's in park and neutral. 123 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: I tried it in park. I tried it a neutral, 124 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: same problem, went to the blue white wire that comes 125 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: into the trans range switch and supplied my own ground. 126 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,039 Speaker 1: Now I've bypassed the switch, same thing, starter with or 127 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: the starter relay with buzz that moment before it got 128 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: to crank. M hm, Well, the only thing left is 129 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: connect to one on one, which is a junction connector, 130 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 1: and it's it's buried in the wiring harness somewhere. And 131 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: you get to a point where you're in the eight percentile, right, 132 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: You're you're saying to yourself, what's this going to take 133 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: in terms of cost, our research, diagnosis. What if it's 134 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: a bad ignition switch? And I thought about that for 135 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: a second. I was in the eight percent TiAl of 136 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: it was a bad ignisance switch anyway, So the next 137 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: time I made a buzz, I just kind of held 138 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: it in that sweet spot of buzzing without actually going forward. 139 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: And as I wiggled the key, because sometimes you have 140 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: to be delicate. As I wiggled the key, you would 141 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 1: hear the buzz changed tone. It's kind of varied in oscillated. Well, 142 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna pull an ignition switch out of 143 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: this ignitionce whitches or hunter bucks. There's not a lot 144 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: of money. They're easy to get to because we like 145 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 1: to do easy. We like to you know, hedge our 146 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: bets and start chasing the things that are obvious, that 147 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: are that are more likely to be the problem. Pull 148 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: the column covers down and there it is. Two screws, 149 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: the ignisance switches in and out, and probably the better 150 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: part of fifteen minutes, if it took me that long. 151 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: No involvement with the immobilizer, no involvement with the anti 152 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: theF system whatsoever. Change the ignition switch out, put a 153 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: new one in. This car started up, no more buzzing. 154 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: And the customer said to me, he said, how did 155 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: you ever figure it out? And I said, you know, Richard, 156 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: I said, a lot of it's it's it's process of elimination. 157 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: Tell me what's bad, Tell me what's good, and I'll 158 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: tell you what's bad. If you want it that way, 159 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Tell me what's good and I'll tell you 160 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: what's bad. One more time. Now I could have gone, 161 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: and I did. I measured voltage on the yellow wire 162 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: when it started the buzz before I pulled the ignisance 163 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: switch out. And there has to be a problem in 164 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: the ignition switch, because the ignition switch was feeding six 165 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: and a half volts out on the yellow wire to 166 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: the starter relay before it actually got to the point 167 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 1: of crank where it would actually request and go for 168 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: that full twelve volts. So guess what a bad ignition switch? 169 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: And you know it's that simple. It's it's you know, 170 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: diagnosis is a areas of steps. It's not it's not. Well, 171 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: I think it's this. I think it's that. There wasn't 172 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: one thing that I guessed here until the end. And 173 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: like I said, once I got into the eight percentile 174 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: where it was down to it's either this or that, 175 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: and I knew it couldn't be that because I tried 176 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: it by swapping it out, meaning the relay. The only 177 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: thing left was the ignition switch unless I wanted to 178 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: condemn the entire underdish huse box, which holy account. You know, 179 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: do we want to do the simple thing first or 180 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: do we want to do the hard thing first? And 181 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: I guess I tell you this story not because you know, 182 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: g I fixed another car, That's what I'm supposed to do, 183 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: but because there's always a logical sequence of events when 184 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: you want to try and repair something. And that's what 185 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: I'm trying to encourage you to do. And if you're 186 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: trying to fix something like this where your car buzzes 187 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: or makes a funny noise or it's got an electrical 188 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: problem and you don't have a wiring diagram in front 189 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: of you, you know you're you're really wasting your time 190 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: because a wiring diagram is the road map, all right. 191 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: It will tell you where, what, when, and how, and 192 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: that's that's that's really what you need to think about 193 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: as you're proceeding on down the road driving your vehicle. 194 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: Questions comments one hundred, No, I'm sorry, we're not one hundred. 195 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: We're eight five five. I just made Tom turn his head. 196 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: Tom turned his head around three times and spit out 197 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: pie suit if I made him do it. Eight five 198 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: five five zero zero Yeah, eight five five five six 199 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. I'm in a good mood. It's 200 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: fourth of July. Eight five five six zero nine nine 201 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: zero zero. Run any of the car, doctor and Tom Ray. 202 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Whether it's a little 203 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,679 Speaker 1: red Corvette or you go, You've come to the right 204 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: place to get that car fixed. Ron and Ay in 205 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor eight five five, five six zero nine 206 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Now back to Ron. Hey, let's go 207 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: over to Paul in Michigan. Paul, welcome to the car doctor. 208 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey, Ron, thanks for taking a call. 209 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: You've got a fan all the way out here in Michigan. 210 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: I thought you were the right guy to call, so 211 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: I got two thousand eighteen equal not And um, I 212 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: knew my brakes were getting low, and the other day 213 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: I had a slight burning smell. So I went in, 214 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 1: got the brakes and the rotors replaced. Thought that would 215 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: take care of that. But then I noticed the slight 216 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 1: burning smell again. I stopped the car, walked around, open 217 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: the hood. Nothing was wrong, gauged in one hot or anything. 218 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: But the next time I drove it, I got that 219 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: same smell, and I walked on the car and I 220 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: stayed around it for ten minutes, and sure enough, five 221 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,199 Speaker 1: minutes after I shot the car, it got hot. Initially, 222 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: I touched everything, it wasn't hot. Open the hood wasn't hot. 223 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: But five minutes later it got hot right at the 224 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: points where the um side panels are bolted to the 225 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: whole rest of the car. And so I'm really confused 226 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: of what's causing this to get hot five minutes after 227 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: I stopped it? Yeah, I am too, to be honest 228 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: with you. What what engine is in this poll? It's 229 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: a one point five leaders. It's a small little one 230 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: that the Chevy put in. Right, this is the one 231 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: five turbo motor. Yeah, right, Um, when you say side panels, 232 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: explain that to me. I don't understand the location we're 233 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: talking about. You know, if you were standing at though, 234 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: if you're standing in front of the car and looking 235 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: at it, where's the side panel you're referencing? So just 236 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: above the wheel well, you know, Like I bent down 237 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: and touched the wheels to see if the bearings were 238 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: hot or some of the brakes were still causing some heat. 239 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 1: And it wasn't. It was up above that right where 240 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: that um the side panel and the crack is for 241 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: the hood. It was coming really hot from there to 242 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: the touch and I opened it up, and even the 243 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: bar that goes around the front part of that engine 244 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: well was hot. And it wasn't hot when I first 245 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: got there. I had tried that out the next time 246 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: I drove the car. Touched the side, not hot, open 247 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: it up, not hot. Have you owned the Carson's. No, 248 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: I bought it off a lease since it had eighteen 249 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: thousand miles. And how long have you had it. I've 250 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: had it for two and a half years. And this 251 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: is the first time you're noticing this is like, this 252 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: is something new. Yeah, I called the dealer go ahead. 253 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you know, have you called the 254 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: dealer and what the dealers say, Oh, it can't be 255 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: the break job we did. I'm not sure what it 256 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: could be, you know, bring it in um And so 257 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: I was on vacation when it was really happening, just 258 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: this last week, and the gauge always showed the engine 259 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: was fine, and the smell has gone away a little 260 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: bit each time I drive it, but I still get 261 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: that hot spot. And my father law has the same 262 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: exact two eighteen Chevy Equinox and it doesn't happen with his, 263 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: and it hasn't happened mind until now. So I didn't 264 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: know if it was grounding or the calic converter. I 265 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: tried punts of cat clean and doesn't make sure that. Yeah, 266 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: I mean the cat's down under the floor pan more 267 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: it's it's although the cat sits right up front in 268 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: that car. If I'm not mistaken. Yeah. You know what 269 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: I would really be curious is, and I'll give you 270 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: a reason to go out and spend some money, is 271 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: go buy a thermal imager. You know, they're a couple 272 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: hundred bucks, they're cheap, they're there, and they're fun to use. 273 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: And I would I would take a temperature reading instead 274 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: of well it feels hot, I can tell you it's 275 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: four two degrees, you know, whatever the number is, um plus. 276 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: You can use it around the house to fix the 277 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 1: central air conditioning and the dryer if the dryer ever 278 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: gets a leak at the gas get or ask me 279 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: how I know. I mean, my wife very happy, but 280 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: I'd be curious what the actual heat numbers are. You know. 281 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: The other question I've got is um You know, if 282 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: you park your father on this car side by side 283 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: with yours, you're telling me his doesn't get hot and 284 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: yours does. Yeah, well that on Saturday and it didn't 285 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: do anything. Well, then a thermal image you will tell 286 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: you what what the actual source of heat is. Maybe 287 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: it is the cat. Maybe the cat's breaking down. Maybe 288 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: the cat's got an issue. Although something's got to be 289 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: driving the cat to that, you know, I'm I'm assuming 290 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: there's no check engine light on, you know, and then 291 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: I'd be curious where's fuel trim? If we think the 292 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: cats working too hard and it's overheating, then you know 293 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: what's that as a result of? Is there a fuel 294 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: trim issue? Is there something that's throwing the mixture off, 295 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: it's making the cat work harder than it's supposed to, 296 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, could this be a turbo problem that's looming. 297 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: You know, there's a couple of things here. I would 298 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: I would obviously take it back to the dealer. Is 299 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: that who's been working on it up to this point. 300 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: They've been doing the service on it, you know, and 301 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: I would explain the problem to them, and you know, 302 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: I would show them and explain it just the way 303 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: you explained it to me. But I don't want to 304 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: start jumping around until I know what you know, actual 305 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: heat numbers are. Listen, it's no different start every diagnosis. 306 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: It's step one, Step one, duplicate the problem, step two, 307 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: scamper code, step three. You know, in this case, i'd 308 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: really want to take a thermal image. I've had a 309 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: bunch of hondas lately. Not that this helps you with 310 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: your problem. But just to show you where a thermal 311 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: image will do. I've had a bunch of hondas lately 312 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: that have had I don't want to say intermittent charging 313 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: system problems, but difficult to diagnose and catching the act, 314 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: and every one of them is I let the vehicle 315 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: run longer and longer, even though the charge rate was borderline. Yeah, 316 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: that's okay. I started getting a hot smell from under 317 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: the hood, and similar to you, took the thermal image 318 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: or out pinned it down. In each case, one alternator 319 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: was running over five degrees. It was just it was 320 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: just an internal fault in the alternator in the charging system. 321 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: Now that's right next to the exhaust manifold, right behind 322 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: right behind the battery. So you know, there's a lot 323 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 1: of things to look at and consider. But the thermal 324 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: images showed me this is the hot thing, and it 325 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: did so in the second one as well. I think 326 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: that one was just approaching four hundred degrees, So you know, 327 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: there's ways to diagnose it. I don't like you touching 328 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: things with your hands because when you find the hot thing, 329 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna know, really, it's gonna be like 330 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: a bugs bunny card h Yeah, yeah, yeah, but anybody 331 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: now so is that pretty common for them transfer heat 332 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: after the car turns off? Well, anything's gonna transfer heat, 333 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: not a matter of unibody. Listen, I drive the hot rod. 334 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: Whenever I take the fifty five out, I still i've 335 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 1: I've always done it this way, I'll drive it. There's 336 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 1: a car that's in obviously good shape, I always lift 337 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: the hood and I let it cool off for a 338 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: good couple of hours before I close the hood, because 339 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm funny like that. I think about the battery getting hot, 340 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 1: spewing a little bit of acid. I think about the 341 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: heat effect on the hood and the paint and everything else. 342 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: I'm a little O C D with that car obviously 343 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: for what it is. So, you know, letting heat escape, uh, 344 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: you know, on something like that, letting heat escape on 345 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 1: what you've got. I'm not gonna say you need to 346 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: do it on a production, everyday vehicle, but you do 347 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: have to stop and consider, you know, if there is 348 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 1: something wrong, how hard is it working, how hot is 349 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: it getting my complaint against turbos, and I haven't studied 350 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: it in a while to see if the manufacturers have 351 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: done anything about it. But I remember years ago, the 352 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: complaint with turbos was always that when you left the 353 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: hood clothes on a turbo charged vehicle, the oil would 354 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 1: start to get really hot, and I don't want to 355 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: say boil, but it would approach boil point because it 356 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: would just sit there and bake and coke up. It 357 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: would clog up, restrict oil feed to the turboe. It was. 358 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: It was the leading cause of early turbo charge failure 359 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: in turbo charged cars twenty years ago, you know, and 360 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: I would be concerned about this seat issue, but I 361 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: would attack it the way I'm saying that, Paul, do that. 362 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: Call me back. I'm glad to help you. Let's see 363 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 1: what the dealer has to say. We can talk some more. 364 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:34,239 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car Doctor. I'm back right 365 00:18:34,280 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: after this. Ah, what a bat. Rodney and the car 366 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: Doctor rowing along this hour. Let's go over and talk 367 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: to Rodney in New York with an old one ranger. Rodney. 368 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help Hello? Yes, sir, yeah, uh, 369 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: ignition starting problem. It cranks over fine, but you gotta 370 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: crank it several times before We'll start working a while. 371 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: Once in a while we'll kick like it's gonna start, 372 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: but it doesn't. What engines in this rodney? Alright? What's 373 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:36,479 Speaker 1: fuel pressure? The garage said it was adequate. I don't know. 374 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: So what's been done to it in terms of diagnosis 375 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: and what does the garage think is wrong with it? 376 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 1: Garage says, I got a little with it. Boy, that's great. 377 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,719 Speaker 1: How many miles? How many miles are on this? Uh 378 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: to seventy five? All right, so it's got a lot 379 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: of miles on it. And listen, I'll tell you a 380 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: story about high mileage rangers. Okay, real quick. I'm not 381 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: trying to hijack the conversation, but I can relate to 382 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: this my my little shop truck. My ninety seven Ranger 383 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: has about two one on it, and every once in 384 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: a while it's got what I call a long crank time. 385 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: It's like five maybe six seconds, not all the time. Um, 386 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: I've looked for everything. I've looked at fuel pressure, I've 387 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: looked at ignition. I've had it where I've looked at ignition. 388 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: I'm looking at ignition, fuel and a half a dozen 389 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: other critical sensors and everything's right there. And I've just 390 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: come to the conclusion at this age and mileage. I've 391 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: probably got sticky rings, and it's just because it cranks 392 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: too fast. When it does it, it's like a lost 393 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: compression for a minute, and I just think I've got 394 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: a sticky ring issue, and you know, I'm gonna live 395 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: with it, and I have. It's not all the time. 396 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 1: It happens once in a blue moon, you know. Yeah. 397 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: If this is all the time, you know we've got 398 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 1: to eliminate. Process of elimination. Where's fuel pressure when you 399 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: turn the key off? Um, when you turn the key off, 400 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: does it hold residual fuel pressure for at least twenty minutes? Alright? 401 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: Fuel pressure on that key on, engine off, no cranks 402 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: should be about sixty five pounds if I remember my 403 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: Ford Ranger right, so, and you should be able to 404 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: cycle the key, turn it on, shut it off, or 405 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 1: turn it on started. It'll be running, it'll drop down 406 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: a little bit. I believe it'll hit about fifty eight 407 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: to sixty when it's running, and then when you shut 408 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 1: it off, it should hold residual fuel pressure for at 409 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: least twenty minutes. If it doesn't, if it drops to zero, 410 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: then there's a reasonable chance it's got a bad fuel pump. 411 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: The fuel pump isolator, which is part of the fuel 412 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: pump module in the tank is bad, or it's worn out, 413 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: or it's leaking. I guess there's a check ve in 414 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: the line. And if you if you were to sit 415 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: there and turn the key on, turn the key off, 416 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: turn the key on, turn the key off, turn the 417 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: key on, turn the key off three or four times, 418 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:54,360 Speaker 1: does it fire? Does it fire right up? You mean 419 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: without trying to start it? Correct? I haven't tried that. 420 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: I tried the other day turn it on likeonds and 421 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: I still had cranking like four times before it start. Okay, 422 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: if you just sit there and crank it and don't 423 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 1: let us continuously cranking up for plus seconds, it don't start, 424 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: we won't fire. So I you know, maybe we don't 425 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: have a fuel pressure problem. Maybe we've got maybe we've 426 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: got an ignition problem. Listen, this is no different. You 427 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: know it's a broken vehicle, all right, you know an 428 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: answer of live with it. I hope you didn't pay 429 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 1: for this diagnosis, did you? Okay, because that's no diagnosis. 430 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 1: Live with it is not a diagnosis. Um. You know, 431 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: I don't care how many slings it's got, how big 432 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: it is how small it is. I don't care what 433 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 1: color it is, and I don't care what day of 434 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: the week it is. It's spark, fuel and mechanical. That's it. 435 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: What are we missing? You know, you could do some 436 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: of this yourself if you've got if you've got a 437 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,679 Speaker 1: reasonable Loto parts store in your neck of the woods, 438 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: just go buy a spark tester. It'll it'll clip on 439 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: the end of the spark plug, pull off one of 440 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: the wires. This is a this is an No. One 441 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: so this still has wires. This is a lot of 442 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: wires on it. This is a coil that still has 443 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 1: wires on it, right, yeah, yeah, this has a central 444 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: coil with six wires. Just go put a spark tester 445 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: on one of the plug wires, and it's sort of 446 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 1: self explanatory. It's you know, set the gap by you know, 447 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 1: set the gap by the spark tester. So it'll pull 448 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: forty volts out of the coil. That should be enough 449 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: to kick this thing and crank it. Do you have spark? 450 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,199 Speaker 1: Have somebody crank it while you watch? Do you have 451 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: an angry blue spark coming across that that spark tester? 452 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: All right? If you do, and it doesn't start, well, 453 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: you've got spark. The next step is do you have fuel? 454 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: If if you have fuel pressure. The other thing I 455 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: would consider on a vehicle of this age is could 456 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: I have a mass airflow sensor out of calibration? Could 457 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: I have something causing it to run lean? And by 458 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,239 Speaker 1: the same token, what's overall health of the vehicle? If 459 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,399 Speaker 1: I were to look at fuel trim and cooling sensor 460 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: and you know, there's a lot of nitty gritty to 461 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: get into beyond and just live with it. You know, 462 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,359 Speaker 1: you've got you've got about twelve steps to go through, 463 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: so uh, you know, but those are some of the 464 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: things that they have to look at, or somebody has 465 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: to look at, you know, because it sounds like from 466 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 1: the way you're going, never mind the engine itself, you're 467 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: gonna be buying a lot of starter motors in the future. 468 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: How long has it been doing this? I'm not buying 469 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: a starter motor. Yeah, well, you're gonna you're gonna be 470 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: buying a starter motor when it burns out because you're 471 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: gonna be cranking how much? Uh you know, what's how 472 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: long has it been doing this? Well? I bought it 473 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: used recently and that's the way it ended up coming 474 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: that way. And uh, well we ain't done talking yet. Yeah, um, 475 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: because I got I got it all three with three 476 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: on it and that's right. Yeah. Now there's there's somebody's 477 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: missing the boat here. So it's it's simple stuff, man, 478 00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: it's I don't you know, make it a lawnmower engine. 479 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: It's a lawnmower. It's a one cylinder with one spark 480 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: plug and a carburetor. It's fuel, spark or mechanical. What 481 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: is it all? Right? Now? If you go through and 482 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: it's got solid spark all the way around, and it's 483 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: got it's got uh you know, good fuel pressure all 484 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: the time, and it's got good residual and it's it 485 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: holds pressure and all the fuel system. We check it 486 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: out and while you got the fuel pressure gage hooked up, 487 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: just for giggles, let's pull a fuel sample out of 488 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: the tank and make sure it's clean fuel and there's 489 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: no sediment, no crud, no signs of anything else. I 490 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: don't think there will be. But it's an easy enough 491 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: test to do when you've got a fuel pressure gauge 492 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: hooked up, and we eliminate spark and fuel before we 493 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: sit there and say it's two or seventy five thousand miles, 494 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,879 Speaker 1: the rings are tired, or it's got a compression issue. 495 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,080 Speaker 1: Now we've got to start. This is where the nitty 496 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: gritty comes in. Now we've got to start to look 497 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: at everything else, all right, you know, we've got to 498 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: start to look at mass airflow. We've got to look 499 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 1: at cool intempt sensor. You know, does the cool intempt 500 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: sensor make sense if the vehicle sits overnight. If the 501 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: vehicle sits overnight, here's a question. The vehicle sits overnight, 502 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: is it just as likely to give you a long 503 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 1: crank time as if it when it's hot? Does it change? 504 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: It doesn't, It doesn't matter. I can go in the 505 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: grocery store and come back. I'll fifteen minutes later, and 506 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: I may have to crank at four or five six times, right, 507 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: and then if you wait eight hours, you're you're bringing 508 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: home in the next morning, you go out to start it, 509 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: same thing, same thing, once or twice. I had to 510 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: pop right off to come to start on the first crank, 511 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 1: it's one and fifty. So you know, we're gonna start 512 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: to look at sensors. Does the cooling sensor makes sense, 513 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: all right, And it's an easy enough test to do 514 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: if you've got to. If somebody's got a scantal hooked up, 515 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: there's an ambient air temp censor on this vehicle, meaning 516 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: it'll show you what the ambient air temp is, and 517 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: we'll show you what the cooling temp is. If the 518 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: vehicles sitting longer than eight hours, they should read within 519 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: ten degrees of each other. You know, there's things like 520 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: that that can be done. Look at the mass airflow sensor. 521 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 1: Look at the grams per per per second flow at idle. 522 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: You should see four grams flowing across the four leaders, 523 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: so you're gonna see roughly. I'll give you a range 524 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: three to five. If you see eight, that's wrong, and 525 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: if you see two that's wrong. You know there's things 526 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: you can go look at for critical dimension and critical measurement. 527 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: But brother, somebody's got to get past fuel pressure and ignition. 528 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: And it sounds like the last shop. I hope they're 529 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: not your regular mechanic. It sounds like the last shop 530 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: doesn't want to get involved. So I would find another 531 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: shop and get somebody to diagnose it. Let me know 532 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: what happens. Rodney I'm here for you if you need me. 533 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:30,439 Speaker 1: Eight zero nine zero. The car doctors coming back right 534 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: after this. Look back running into the car doctor. Let's 535 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: go over to Bill in Michigan. Bill, how you've been 536 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: good to hear from you again. Ryan. I appreciate you 537 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: being there on a holiday. Thank you. You've got a 538 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: two thousand Impela three five six miles. I had a 539 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: failure on my key fob. I checked the battery, the 540 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: battery was good. I ended up buying a new A 541 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,239 Speaker 1: C Delco with the original part number. I use the 542 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 1: owner's manual instructions to reprogram it. It would not work. 543 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: Got the upgraded part number. Another A C Delco tried 544 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: to program it with a Tech two clone that I 545 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: have that did not work. Went back to the original 546 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: superseded UH number with again an A C Delco brand, 547 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: could not get that to work as well. I'm kind 548 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,399 Speaker 1: of at my wits end. Am I due for a 549 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: BCM reflesh? I don't think so. You know? Well, let 550 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: me ask you this. You say the key fob failed 551 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: right correct, would not give a signal to I do 552 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: not have remote start. All my key fob does is 553 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: locked and unlocked the doors on the trunk. So so 554 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: do you have more than one key fob that did 555 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: all the key fob stopped working? Or just the one? 556 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: Just the one? But the three A C Delco replacements 557 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: that I've purchased run I have been unable to program 558 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: any of them. Tell me that. Can you tell me 559 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: the procedure at the top of your head bill or 560 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: is it too convoluted and long? Uh? No, It's basically 561 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: if you pressed down the two, you turn the ignition 562 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: to the on position, pressed down the lock and unlocked button, 563 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: and it will tell you on the dash that it's reprogramming. 564 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: But again, I can't get anything to take with the 565 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 1: Tech two clone that I have that was simple going 566 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: to the body, control my module and follow down the menu. 567 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: So there wasn't It's it's not overly complicated. I think 568 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: that's a frustrating part for me. That's why I bought 569 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: some new ones. Right. I thought maybe one of these 570 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: was dropped. You know in shipment electronics, you know if 571 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: you look at them wrong, they don't want to work, 572 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: you know, to make it worse, maybe, um, do we 573 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: want to try and doing an invalidation where you erase 574 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: all the available slots using the Tech two and then 575 00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: start over fresh. I have not tried that. You know, 576 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: you're already in the hole, you know, and and and 577 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: I and I've I've been down this road. I've had 578 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 1: this happened to me where you know, you're supposed to 579 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: be able to just add on another key fob, but 580 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: there's only so many slots in the b c MS memory. 581 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: And you know, if you go in and that's something 582 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: I should ask. You should be able to go in 583 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: with the Tech two and look to see how many 584 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: fobs the BCM thinks it sees and how many slots 585 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: are left around. It only had two. According to the 586 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: Tech two it can take up to four. It's supposed 587 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: to be able to take up to four. So if 588 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: it's not adding them, Um, you know you don't have 589 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: a tire pressure UH scan tool, do you, Bill? And 590 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: the reason I asked that is because one of the 591 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: nice things about t PMS functions is they will give 592 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: you the ability to test key fobs. Don't don't ask 593 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: me why they put that in there, but you know, 594 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: all the all the scan tools we've got, we still 595 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: have tire pressure monitoring equipment and in those I guess 596 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 1: because they're set up for radio signal, and you can, 597 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: you know, go up to go up to a TPMs 598 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: tool of you know, pick a brand autell Um X 599 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: thirty one, whoever is you want to use. There should 600 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: be a key fop test function in there where you 601 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: can push the button and it'll show you radio strength 602 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: and signal and and so forth. Just to complicate this 603 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: a little more, I did go to the local auto zone. 604 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: They had a machine in there with one of these 605 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: key fops and they claimed they were not getting a 606 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: signal from the key fob to the machine. Now, I've 607 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 1: checked batteries and every one of these round, each one 608 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: has been over three volts. So I don't believe that's 609 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: my problem. Is there any other thing I can do 610 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: the diagnosis? I would? I would really like to see 611 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 1: those key fops put out. I would really love to 612 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: measure the signal. I think that's your next step. Stupid question, 613 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: you're buying the key fops from? I know you're I 614 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: know the answer to Bill, I know you after all 615 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: these years. I know the answer is yes. But you're 616 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,200 Speaker 1: buying it from a reliable source, or what you deem reliable. Correct, 617 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: And I have paid the top dollar for them. Because 618 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: I don't want to go through this kind of hassle. 619 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: You know, you spend the required amount of money a 620 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: figure it auto work. It's not logical that you've got 621 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: a B C M failure. All right, the the the 622 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 1: other one works right, the other key fob, the remaining 623 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: works and it's the original key fop. Both of the 624 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: one that sailed and the one that works were original 625 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: key fa right, you know. And you copied your part 626 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: number because I know the part number is written right 627 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: on the back of the key fops exactly right. Uh. 628 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: The last acco I bought ron, I went back to 629 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: the original number, thinking that might have some impact. But 630 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 1: I think even snap On has a TPMs tool that 631 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: will read key fops. I think the next step is 632 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: you've got to prove whether or not those key fops 633 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: put out a signal. And Okay, I do have a 634 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: local tired dealer that I'm pretty friendly with. He'll probably 635 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: have a pretty sophisticated He'll probably with him and I'll 636 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: check with him this week and I'll keep you up 637 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: to date. Yeah, let me know, because if the key 638 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: fobs are putting out all the key fobs work, then 639 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: my next step would be if I was in the shop, 640 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: I'd roll the dice and clear the clear the slots 641 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: and start programming all over again. You know, do it 642 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: from scratch. The information round is priceless. Thank you, We'll 643 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: thanks Bill, you'd be well. Good luck. Zero the car 644 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: doctors coming back right after this, every every blcome back round. 645 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: Name of the car doctor. Let's see. David just wrote 646 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: in David from Kentucky. Hey, Ron, Earlier in the show 647 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: this week, you were talking to Paul from Michigan about 648 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:54,000 Speaker 1: hot oil conditions or overheating conditions in the underhood of 649 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: his Chevy Equinox. You started talking about turbo chargers in 650 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: the way the oil cokes up as you put it, 651 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering, does that just affect engine oil? How 652 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: does that affect transmission fluid? We never seem to talk 653 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: enough about transmission fluid. Are there issues with getting transmission 654 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: fluids or transmissions? David? Getting transmissions too hot? And how 655 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: does that affect the fluid? Thanks David from Louisville. Great show, David, 656 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: great question. You know what trans fluid is a problem too. 657 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: You get transmission fluid. Uh. The thing that breaks down 658 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: to transmission is the fluid starts to break down. The 659 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: fluid gets hot, it causes internal issues inside the transmission. 660 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: And that's why you know it's important to change trans 661 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: fluid on a regular basis. Regardless of what manufacturers tell you. 662 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: They're set guidelines, but it's important to change trans fluid. 663 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: It really is something beneficial for the vehicle as a 664 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: matter of fact. And I always go to the leader 665 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: of this, right, Mala. Mala is setting the standard now 666 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: with transmission oil service. They just come out with a 667 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: new machine and a t X two eight. And one 668 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: of the neat things about this machine is it's just 669 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: like their air conditioning units, where it's going to be 670 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: continuously updated with latest software and latest functionality over the 671 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: air wave, so the shop never loses the machine the downtime. 672 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: The other great thing about it is it does a 673 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: very thorough job of trans fluid exchange and it will 674 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: allow for complete replacement of fluid, making sure you get 675 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: all the old hot, broken down fluid, so to speak, 676 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: out and fresh fluid. And you can find more look 677 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: them up online a Google search Mala and their new 678 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: automatic transmission machine. Good stuff. Hey I'm running any in 679 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: the car doctor looking up saying time to go until 680 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: the next time. Remember good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 681 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: Let's see them