1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:01,640 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz and the weekend Review 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson with you and man. Was it a crazy 4 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 2: week when it comes to big breaking news and we 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 2: covered it all and here are some of the highlights 6 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: you may have missed. First up, Donald Trump, not afraid 7 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: of the media, sitting down on Meet the Press for 8 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 2: an exclusive one on one interview talking about mass deportations 9 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: and how he's going to do it. 10 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: The other question they. 11 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: Said was, well, it's impossible for you to deport all 12 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: legal immigrants. He says, my plan is to start with 13 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: the worst and we're going to go from there. 14 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: We'll have that for you. 15 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: Also, Daniel Penny was found innocent, thank goodness, by a 16 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: jury of his peers in New York City for being 17 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 2: a good samaritan. The question now is can he sue 18 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 2: New York for taking him to court for doing the 19 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: right thing? Was it an unjust prosecution of him. We'll 20 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: explain the legal aspect of that. And finally, the border wall, 21 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: many pieces of it that were taken down by the 22 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: Biden administration and others that were never put up. The 23 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Biden administration now says we want to sell them for 24 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: five dollars apiece to stick it to the American voters. 25 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 2: Can we stop it? Well, we're to explain that for 26 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 2: you as well. It's the Weekend Review and it starts 27 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: right now. Let's talk about the border, and there was 28 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 2: certainly a pretty intense conversation about what Donald Trumps said 29 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 2: he wants to do. And I think the American people 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: actually know what his plan is. The media just doesn't 31 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: want to accept that he has a mandate to do it. 32 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: Here is part of that conversation. 33 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 3: Let's talk about mass deportation, one of your big agenda items. 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 3: You've talked about prioritizing people who have criminal histories, correct, 35 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 3: But is it your plan to deport everyone who is 36 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 3: here illegally over the next four years. 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 4: Well, I think you have to do it, and it's 38 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 4: a it's a very tough thing to do. 39 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 5: It's but you have to have. 40 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 4: You know, you have rules, regulations, law as they came 41 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: in illegally. You know, the people that have been treated 42 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 4: very unfairly are the people that have been online for 43 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: ten years to come into the country. And we're going 44 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 4: to make it very easy for people to come in 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 4: in terms off they have to pass the test, they 46 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: have to be able to tell you what the statue 47 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 4: of liberty is. They have to tell you a little 48 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: bit about our country. They have to love our country. 49 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 4: They can't come out of prisons. We don't want people 50 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 4: that are in for murder. So we had eleven thousand 51 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 4: and thirteen thousand, different estimates, thirteen thousand and ninety nine 52 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 4: murderers released into our country over the last three years. 53 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: They're walking down the streets, they're walking next to you 54 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: and your family, and they're very dangerous. 55 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: Thirteen thousand figure I think goes back about forty good. 56 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 5: No, it doesn't know it's within the three year period. 57 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 5: It's during the Biden term. Now, that was a fiction 58 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 5: that they put that out. This was done by the 59 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 5: Border Patrol. 60 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 4: It's thirteen thousand and ninety nine, and it's during the 61 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 4: Biden period of time. And these are murderers, many of 62 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 4: who murdered more than one person. You don't want those 63 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 4: people in this country. 64 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 3: But you're saying something, sir, that's significance. I just want 65 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: to make sure i'm clear, which is that you're saying, yes, 66 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 3: you're going to focus on the people with criminal histories, 67 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 3: but everyone who's here illegally has to go. 68 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 4: I'm saying, we have to get the criminals out of 69 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: our country. We have to get people that were taken 70 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 4: out of mental institutions and put them back into their 71 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 4: mental institution, no matter what country it is. 72 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 5: Do you know that Venezuela, their prisons. 73 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 4: Are at the lowest point in terms of emptiness that 74 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 4: they've ever been. They're taking their people out of those 75 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 4: prisons by the thousands, and they're drug and just to 76 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 4: get back because they know exactly what you're getting. At 77 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 4: number one, we're doing criminals, and we're going to do 78 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 4: them really rapidly. We're getting the worst gang probably with 79 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 4: MS thirteen and the Venezuelan gangs the worst in the world. 80 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 4: They're vicious, violent people, and you see what they've done 81 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 4: in Colorado and other places. They're taking over literally taking 82 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 4: over apartment complexes and doing it with impunity. 83 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 5: They don't care, they couldn't. They just aren't taking They're 84 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 5: in the real estate. 85 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 3: You know, the local police say that is not the 86 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 3: case in Colorado. 87 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 5: Oh, it's totally the case. I mean, you don't believe 88 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 5: the local I play it. 89 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 4: I used to play it at my rallies every single night. No, 90 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 4: it was breaking into doors, they're taking over the buildings. 91 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 4: And by the way, the police, the police are afraid 92 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 4: to do anything. 93 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 3: You raise the point that the logistics are complicated. 94 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 5: You say to yourself, what everything's going? Yeah, I mean you. 95 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 3: Need twenty four times more iced attention capacity just to 96 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: deport one million people per year, not to mention more agents, 97 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 3: more judges, more planes. Is it realistic to deport everyone 98 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 3: who's Jews? 99 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 5: First of all, they're costing us a fortune. 100 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 4: But we're starting with the criminals, and we got to 101 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 4: do it, and then we're starting with others, and we're 102 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: going to see how it goes. 103 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 5: The others. 104 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 4: Others are other people. Outside of criminals. We have convicted murders. 105 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 4: We don't mean people that are even on trial. We 106 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 4: have people that have murdered numerous people are on our 107 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 4: streets and in our farms, and we have to get 108 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 4: them out of our country. 109 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: You know, it's amazing to me, center is the fact 110 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 2: that Christian Walker there was just like, well, it's this 111 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: is impossible. You can't do this, So why even act 112 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: like you can deport around up a bunch of heinous criminals. 113 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: There's no way you can do this. So let's just 114 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 2: admit defeat and say we can't do it, and we 115 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: can't afford it. I mean, the Biden administration just sent 116 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: what another billion dollars and funding to Ukraine. Why don't 117 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 2: we spend some money here and actually get what we 118 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 2: need to get rid of these heinous criminals. 119 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: I think that's the point he's trying to make. 120 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 6: Well, and we're going to see that happen. We are 121 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 6: going to see on January twentieth, we're going to see 122 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 6: the new administration come in. We're going to see them 123 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 6: reverse catch and release immediately. We're going to see them 124 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 6: return to building the wall. We're going to see them 125 00:05:37,720 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 6: reinstate the Remain in Mexico agreement. What it is going 126 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 6: to mean is that on January twentieth, if you come 127 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 6: here illegally and you're apprehended, you will be deported, and 128 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 6: we will see the numbers plummets. They'll plummet immediately. The 129 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 6: first priority Trump is going to focus on as securing 130 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 6: the border itself, and very closely connected to that is 131 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 6: going after illegal immigrants, and in particular, he said repeatedly, 132 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 6: starting with the criminal aliens, starting with the convicted murderers, 133 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 6: the rapist, the child molesters, starting with the Venezuelan gangs, 134 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 6: starting with with with the most dangerous illegal immigrants. And 135 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 6: you know, Welker was saying, well, gosh, this is going 136 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 6: to be expensive. It's going to take a lot of resources. 137 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 6: I'm going to hold onto that clip that's going to 138 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 6: be valuable because you know what Congress is going to 139 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 6: We're going to take up and pass a reconciliation bill. 140 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 6: We're going to do it early in this next year 141 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 6: that is going to provide funding to enable us to 142 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 6: secure the border. We're going to get it done. And 143 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 6: I think Trump was very matter of fact laying out 144 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 6: this is a mandate from the American people. He intends 145 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:40,839 Speaker 6: to do it, and I intend to work hand in 146 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 6: hand with him to make sure it gets done. 147 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 2: And finally, Senator Donald Trump went to France. It was 148 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 2: a very interesting trip. He was meeting with world leaders. 149 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: And one of the things that I thought was really 150 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 2: interesting about this trip was social media reacted to Trump's 151 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 2: just dominating force and the and the clear contrast between 152 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: how world leaders were interacting with him compared to Joe 153 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: Biden in this administration. There was an interesting handshake when 154 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 2: there was a meeting in France as well. I'm sure 155 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 2: you saw some of this on social media and on 156 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: the news. I want to get your reaction to even 157 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: Macrone and their handshake. It was like it was like 158 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 2: a fist, like hey, we're back, bros. Good to see you. 159 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 160 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 6: Look, I mean Donald Trump sha shakes hands like a man, 161 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 6: and when it came to Macrone, he shook hands in 162 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 6: a way that was a dominating way to shake hands. 163 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 6: Macrone was nervous, he was uneasy, He wasn't sure what 164 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 6: to do. 165 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 7: Now. 166 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 6: Macrone's own political situation in France is incredibly tenuous, and 167 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 6: listen the contrast, Macrone has been kissing up to Biden 168 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 6: like crazy. Biden when he interacts with Macrone and every 169 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 6: other world leader interacts from a position of weakness. None 170 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 6: of them are afraid of him, none of them, none 171 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 6: of them are worried about what he might do. You know, 172 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 6: you look at that at our southern border. I'm reminded 173 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 6: we did a podcast I don't know about a year 174 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 6: year and a half ago where we played Amlo then 175 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 6: the president of Mexico, uh, standing next to Joe Biden 176 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 6: and just crowing how he's the only president in our lifetimes, 177 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 6: who has not built even one meter of wall or 178 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 6: fence neon metro and and he's saying and Biden just 179 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 6: grinning like a goofy fool while Amlo is saying, well, 180 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 6: look this guy, we can just run all over. Well, 181 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 6: we have seen that that that Trump is not someone 182 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 6: that that foreign leaders are going to run all over. 183 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 6: And so so that is that that that is a 184 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 6: powerful demonstration of the simple fact that America is back. 185 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 186 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 187 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 2: from earlier this week. 188 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: Now onto story number two. 189 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: This is one of those stories where I hope that 190 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: people will stand up and say this is a hero 191 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: and be proud to say he is a hero, because 192 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 2: that's exactly what he is. And we should celebrate heroes 193 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 2: and we should not have to worry that when men 194 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 2: need to stand up an act to protect and defend people, 195 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: that they're going to do it and not have to 196 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 2: worry about thinking twice because of what just happened to 197 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: this individual. It's also a really sad commentary about New 198 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 2: York and New York City and the activist prosecutors there 199 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: and Finally, I want to get your thought on that. 200 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 2: With the prosecutors that went after him, should there be 201 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 2: any scenario where he can, in essence, say hey, you 202 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: guys didn't treat me the right way. 203 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 6: Look. Look, I could easily see a lawsuit following from this. 204 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 6: I hope Alvin Bragg is thrown out of office. I 205 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 6: hope he is removed from office. The governor has the 206 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 6: authority to do that. Of course, the governor, Kathy Hockel 207 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 6: is a leftist herself, a cultural Marxist herself. She's someone who, 208 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,440 Speaker 6: by the way, said, if you're a Republican, get the 209 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 6: hell out of my state. Moved to Florida, you don't 210 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 6: belong in New York. That is their idea. If you 211 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 6: are the enemy, they are opposed to you. I gotta say, 212 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 6: I want you to listen to Daniel Penny and him 213 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 6: talking about how he was trying to protect other people's lives. 214 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 6: He was acting as a good Samaritan, acting as a hero, intervening, 215 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 6: risking his own life. Look, encountering a mentally ill, potentially 216 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 6: violent person threatening violence is a dangerous thing to do. 217 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 6: Here's what Daniel Penny had to say. 218 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 8: The guilt I would have felt if someone did get hurt, 219 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 8: if he did do what he was threatening to do, 220 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 8: would never be able to live with myself. 221 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 5: And I'll take a. 222 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 8: Million court appearances and people calling me names and people 223 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 8: hating me just to keep one of those people from 224 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 8: getting hurt or killed. 225 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 6: Look that that is yes. Look and of course how 226 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 6: is the left reacting. I want you to listen to 227 00:10:55,880 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 6: MSNBC just just expressing misery that that that that Daniel 228 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 6: Penny was was acquitted. And and understand, by the way, 229 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 6: initially so there were two charges, uh that were brought. 230 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 9: Uh. 231 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 6: So Alvin Bragg brought two charges. One charge was for 232 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 6: manslaughter and the second charge was for uh criminally uh 233 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 6: criminally criminally negligent homicide. The jury deadlocked on on the 234 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 6: on the second degree manslaughter claim, which was the more 235 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 6: serious charge. So so that means they had a disagreement, 236 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 6: they could not come to agreement. And so what did 237 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 6: Alvin Bragg do. Well, Alvin Bragg moved to dismiss the 238 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 6: more serious charge and he was trying to get a 239 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 6: conviction on the less serious charge. And and I got 240 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 6: to say, to the jury's credit, they came back very 241 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 6: quickly with a not guilty, So the jury is determined 242 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 6: he is he is innocent. But listen to m S 243 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 6: NBC and and just how upset they are uh that 244 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 6: that this innocent man was found found not guilty. 245 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 10: Banking News here Daniel Penny found not guilty. But Lisa, 246 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 10: we also know that Jordan Neely's family had filed I 247 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 10: believe a civil suit in this case as well. Does 248 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 10: the verdict in this case impact. 249 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 11: That not necessarily? I mean, the law is rife with 250 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 11: examples of people who are quitted in criminal cases and 251 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 11: yet find justice with respect to civil accountability. I think 252 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 11: the best example of that is with respect to Fred 253 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 11: Goldman's family. Fred Goldman, I'm sorry, Ron Goldman being the 254 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 11: man who was murdered alongside Nicole Brown Simpson. 255 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 5: Even though O. J. 256 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 11: Simpson was never found criminally guilty for those two murders, 257 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,599 Speaker 11: Fred Goldman, the father, along with his daughter, then sued O. J. 258 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 5: Simpson Civilly and. 259 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 11: One a fairly large verdict with respect to civil liability 260 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 11: for OJ Simpson. There are many other examples of similar 261 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 11: dysjuncture between what happens in a criminal court and what 262 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 11: happens when respect. 263 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 5: To a wrongful death action. For example, by a family. 264 00:12:58,520 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: It's sad center. 265 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: But there seems to be another trend, and that is, 266 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 2: if you are an innocent person and then you are 267 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 2: found innocent of a crime, if the media doesn't like you, 268 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 2: they're still gonna act like you're a threat to society. 269 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 6: Well you look at that's a reporter Lisa Rubin on 270 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 6: MSNBC who is calling for the mentally ill homeless man 271 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 6: who was high on drugs and threatening to murder people 272 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:27,359 Speaker 6: on the train, calling for him to find justice against 273 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 6: the marine who intervened to protect people and keep people safe. 274 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 6: And she analogizes it to the OJ Simpson case, which 275 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 6: is utterly absurd because look, O J. Simpson was charged 276 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 6: with and the facts were pretty powerful, was guilty of murder. Now, 277 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 6: to be fair, OJ Simpson was not found guilty of murder, 278 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 6: but there was significant evidence that OJ was guilty. There 279 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 6: was significant enough evidence that he ended up being hit 280 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 6: with a large civil judgment. This this is not remotely 281 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 6: there's no argument, no rational, reasonable argument under the law 282 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 6: that Daniel Penny is guilty of murder. Self defense is 283 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 6: fully protected. And by the way, if perchance you don't 284 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 6: believe me, you should listen to my former criminal law professor, 285 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 6: Alan Dershowitz. Now, Alan Dershowitz is a liberal, He's been 286 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 6: a liberal his whole life. But he has the courage 287 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 6: to speak out and speak the truth. And listen to 288 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 6: what Alan Dershowitz said about this case and about the 289 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 6: absolutely corrupt prosecutor Alvin Bragg. 290 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 10: I'm going to start off with just the immediate reaction 291 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 10: to the not guilty verdict in the Daniel Penny case. 292 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 7: I have to admit I was a little surprised. Having 293 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 7: hung on the higher count, I was not expecting that 294 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 7: they would so quickly acquit on the lower account. It 295 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 7: probably shows that there were only one or two people 296 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 7: in the original high count that hung based on their 297 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 7: desire to see conviction. So I think it's a good thing. 298 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 5: Now. 299 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 7: I think the next step has to be the removal 300 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 7: of Alvin Bragg from the role of district Attorney. He 301 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 7: is a disgrace to the office. The two cases he 302 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 7: brought should never have been brought. The case against Donald Trump, 303 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 7: which was made up out of old cloth, which to 304 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 7: my mind involves unethical unprofessional conduct by Bragg, and also 305 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 7: this case, which should never have been brought either. He 306 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 7: brought it only because of the racial component to the 307 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 7: case and because of pressures from Black Lives Matter and 308 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 7: other groups on the outside, both white and black radicals 309 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 7: who wanted these cases to be brought, wanted this case 310 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 7: to be brought, and who are going to continue to 311 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 7: complain even though there are obviously black members of the 312 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 7: jury who voted to a quite as well. 313 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 12: Professor, what do you make of how quickly they came 314 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 12: back with this verdict and also to there's the civil 315 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 12: case that he's also facing too, Daniel Penny does that 316 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 12: given that he's not guilty on the criminal case, what 317 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 12: happens to the civil case as well? 318 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 7: It'll be thrown out. There's no case there civilly. The 319 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 7: only thing that will happen is that Penny will get 320 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 7: an enormous amount of discovery and we'll get much more 321 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 7: information that we don't now have about the alleged victim 322 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 7: in the case. So my prediction is it will be withdrawn. 323 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 7: I don't think they'll go any further. I don't think 324 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 7: they'll get any kind of a verdict. 325 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 5: Now. 326 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 7: You know, maybe the city will settle if they sue 327 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 7: the city as well. If I were, if I were 328 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 7: the lawyers for the alleged victim. I probably think. 329 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 9: I'd have a better shot at getting some money from 330 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 9: the city, which was sympathetic obviously to the victim, than 331 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 9: from a poor former marine who probably doesn't have a 332 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 9: lot of money. 333 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 7: So I don't think the simple case is going anywhere. 334 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 5: This is not O J. 335 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 7: Simpson, where the civil case won after the criminel case lost. 336 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 7: There was no case here to bring it all, either 337 00:16:58,560 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 7: civil or criminal. 338 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 2: Alan Dershowitz there seems to be optimistic, and I'm glad 339 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 2: he's saying, Hey, I don't think he's going to have 340 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 2: to deal with what, for example, O. J. Simpson had 341 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 2: to deal with. This is very different. I hope he's right. 342 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 6: Well, listen, Alan Dershowitz. He's a good friend. As I said, 343 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,959 Speaker 6: he was my criminal law professor, and I actually took 344 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 6: another class from him in law school as well. He 345 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 6: was a fantastic professor. He's the best professor I had 346 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 6: in law school. And he's a brilliant lawyer. He's an 347 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 6: incredibly talented lawyer. And I remember my first year in 348 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 6: law school when dersh was stood up and he said listen. 349 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 6: He said, by any reasonable measure, I am in the 350 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 6: most liberal one percent of Americans across this country. And 351 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 6: he said at Harvard Law School, oddly enough, I'm considered 352 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 6: something of a conservative. This is not America. I don't 353 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 6: remember if he said this is not America, but this 354 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 6: is not a typical place. I mean, this was thirty 355 00:17:56,359 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 6: years ago, so I'm paraphrasing, but his point was so. 356 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 6: Dershowitz believes in free speech. That is no longer where 357 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 6: the left is. The left is eager to censor someone 358 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 6: who disagrees. Dershowitz does not celebrate the murder of those 359 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 6: he disagrees with. Dershwitz is not a cultural Marxist. He's 360 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 6: an old school liberal. He's a civil libertarian. He is 361 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 6: you know, has represented criminal defendants successfully. He's got a 362 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 6: lot of criminal defense off he believes in a vigorous 363 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 6: protection of constitutional rights for criminal defendants. And look, I 364 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:36,919 Speaker 6: respect his courage. He's been demonized. He also supports Israel 365 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 6: and speaks out very powerfully and effective for Israel. He's 366 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 6: been demonized by the Left for doing so because they 367 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 6: brook no dissent. Anyone who dares oppose them is the enemy. 368 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 6: And so even though he's been one of the most 369 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 6: prominent liberals in the country for decades. 370 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 7: He is. 371 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 6: Rejected by today's left because he actually has the courage 372 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,640 Speaker 6: to speak out against them. I hope he's right about 373 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 6: the civil case. In any sane and ordinary universe, that 374 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,239 Speaker 6: would be true. I have to say I have a 375 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 6: little bit less confidence about a New York jury and 376 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 6: a New York judge. And maybe that's because we all 377 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 6: saw the the absolute kangaroo courts that that were convened 378 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 6: against Donald Trump, and and and having seen the civil 379 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 6: suits and and the the the the criminal case against 380 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 6: Donald Trump and the New York justice system. Uh, he 381 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 6: is right on what should happen. Look, I am very 382 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 6: grateful that that that Daniel Penny was acquitted, But it 383 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 6: says something about how little confidence I have about the 384 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 6: justice system in New York that I was not sure 385 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 6: this was happened would happen. I I thought there was 386 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 6: a chance, Uh, they they would come back and and 387 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 6: follow through on what Alvin Bragg wanted them to do, 388 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 6: which is punish him because he was deemed the bad guy. 389 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 6: And and and thankfully the the justice system worked in 390 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 6: this case. And you want to ask yourself, have you 391 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 6: seen even a single Democrat celebrate the Daniel Penny verdict. 392 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question. 393 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 6: And if not, why not? 394 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: As before, If you want to hear the rest of 395 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and 396 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 2: down the podcast from earlier this week to hear the 397 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big story, 398 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 2: number three of the week. 399 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: You may have missed. All right, so let's go to 400 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: the border. 401 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: And this might be one of the biggest just asinine 402 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: middle fingers from this administration. I don't know how you 403 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 2: want to categorize this one, but when I saw this report, 404 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 2: it actually made me angry. And that is that the 405 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,840 Speaker 2: Biden administration is saying, Hey, we don't respect the voters. 406 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: We do not respect that the American people decided we 407 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 2: want security at our southern border. And what are they 408 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 2: doing to stick it to you. They're saying, all right, 409 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 2: watch this, We're going to sell pieces of the border 410 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: wall that have not been erected yet, just to say 411 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 2: screw you to the American people. 412 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 6: I wish what you were saying was hyperbole. I wish 413 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 6: it was an exaggeration, but it's not. The Daily Wire 414 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 6: broke this story, and it's an exclusive story that is 415 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 6: just it's stunning, it's infuriating. Here's the headline, exclusive, Biden 416 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 6: races to sell off border wall parts before Trump takes office. 417 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 6: The goal is to move all of it off the 418 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 6: border before Christmas. An Arizona Border Patrol agent tells the 419 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 6: Daily Wire. Let me read from this story. The Biden 420 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 6: administration is using its final weeks to haul a massive 421 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 6: amount of border wall materials away from the southern border 422 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 6: to be sold off in a government auction, on apparent 423 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 6: effort to hinder President elect Trump's efforts to secure the border. 424 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 6: The Daily Wire has learned. Videos obtained exclusively by The 425 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 6: Daily Wire from a US Customs and Border Patrol agent 426 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 6: show unused sections of the wall being hauled away on 427 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 6: the back of flatbed trucks from a section of the 428 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 6: border just south of Tucson, a hotspot for illegal crossings 429 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,399 Speaker 6: during the Biden administration. The agent estimates that up to 430 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 6: a half mile per day of unused border wall is 431 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 6: being moved. This is not a small amount, this is 432 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 6: a massive amount. Continuing the quote quote, they are taking 433 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 6: it from three stations, Nogallis, Tucson, and three points. The 434 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 6: Border Patrol agent, who was granted anonymities speak freely told 435 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 6: the Daily Wire the goal is to move it all 436 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 6: off the border before Christmas. And here's something. If that 437 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 6: doesn't make you furious, listen, listen to this. The auction 438 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 6: website shows that sales occurred as recently as December fourth 439 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,959 Speaker 6: for precisely the types of materials being pulled off the border. 440 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 6: Gov Planet has online auction set for December eleventh and 441 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 6: December eighteenth for more border wall material, which is listed 442 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 6: on the company's website as quote thirty two point nine 443 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 6: to one feet by seven point nine to one feet 444 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 6: steel ballered wall sections with grout. The bidding for each 445 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 6: section of wall panels is set to begin at five 446 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:23,200 Speaker 6: dollars according to the website, and this article has multiple 447 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 6: screenshots showing these being sold for five bucks apiece. I 448 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,439 Speaker 6: got to say, we talked in the first segment about 449 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 6: the arrogance and unaccountability of the Biden Justice Department, of 450 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 6: the Biden FBI. This is, at the end of the day, 451 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 6: that identical arrogance, and it's an arrogance of Joe Biden, 452 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 6: of Kamala Harris, of Aallejandro Majorcis of Merrick Garland, and 453 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 6: let's be clear of Chuck Schumer and the Senate Democrats 454 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 6: and Congressional Democrats. Every person in America knows that the 455 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 6: voters of America voted to secure the border. They want 456 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 6: that to happen. And you know what the Democrats are 457 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 6: saying on the way out, screw you. We don't care, 458 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 6: we don't care about the voters. And what we're gonna do. 459 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 6: If Trump's going to build the border wall, We're going 460 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 6: to make it that much more expensive because we are 461 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 6: so bitterly ideological that we will openly defy the will 462 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 6: of the voters. 463 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 1: And let's just be honest about the logic. 464 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: If you're just talking about that, the logical math that 465 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,160 Speaker 2: you do here, there's no doubt that the Biden administration 466 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: knows that this wall will be used. And if they 467 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 2: do sell it all off before Christmas at five dollars 468 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: a panel, that this is going to have to be 469 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: repurchased at a much higher price because they just sold 470 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 2: what we had purchased before that has not been used, 471 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 2: and it will be used and it will be done. 472 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 2: So this is just trying to make the American taxpayer 473 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 2: suffer a little bit and to say we can't stand 474 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 2: you and what you guys just voted for. This is 475 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 2: a retribution for you voting them out of office and 476 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: their way of sticking it to the American voter and taxpayer. 477 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 6: Well that's right now. I will say there's an aspect 478 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 6: of this story that broke tonight. You and I are 479 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 6: recording this very late at night. It's twelve fifty seven 480 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 6: in the morning, Thursday night, and just this evening, the 481 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 6: Lieutenant Governor of Texas, Dan Patrick, a good friend of mine, 482 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 6: went on Laura Ingram's show, and he said the state 483 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 6: of Texas is preparing to buy up the border wall 484 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 6: segments from the Biden administration that they're selling for five 485 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 6: bucks apiece and then donate them back to the Trump administration. 486 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 6: And Dan Patrick says he has up to a billion 487 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 6: dollars of state funds to work with. I want you 488 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 6: to listen to Dan Patrick this evening on Laura Ingram 489 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 6: laying this out. 490 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 13: We mean business in Texas, and Tom Holmans means business 491 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 13: and President Trump means business. And I don't know if 492 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 13: you heard the latest today, Laura, but Joe Biden is 493 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 13: now hauling off the border wall that's been lying down 494 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 13: for years. And he walked wants to auction it off, 495 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 13: starting at five dollars apiece. 496 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,160 Speaker 5: Message your White House right now. 497 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 13: I will bid on all of that wall, and we 498 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 13: will buy it in Texas and we will give it 499 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 13: to Donald Trump. So I'm going to find out first 500 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 13: thing in the morning. 501 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 5: Where are we going to take the bid. 502 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 13: I've got a billion dollars in my pocket to do it. 503 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 13: I write the budget with Senator Joan Hoffman. 504 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 5: We have the money. 505 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 13: We're going to have about six billion in our budget 506 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 13: for border. 507 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: Shippery to buy the costs. 508 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 3: Don't drive up the costs and tell me five bucks 509 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 3: of five bucks, I notice to the wall, and then. 510 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 5: I will go in and buy it all. 511 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell you what. 512 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 5: What does this tell you about the Biden people? There 513 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 5: is there? Know, they're essentially green lights. There's more people 514 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 5: coming in. 515 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,600 Speaker 13: Yeah, they're despicable what they're doing to the American people, 516 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,719 Speaker 13: and the American people obviously aren't tolerated. That's why they 517 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 13: were thrown out. But the idea, we've been trying to 518 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 13: buy this wall. 519 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 5: For them from them for four years and they wouldn't 520 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 5: sell it to us. 521 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 13: And you know what, I'm going to check in with 522 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 13: our Department of Public Safety. Maybe we need to start 523 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 13: pulling over these trucks to be sure they don't have 524 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 13: too much weight on those trucks. Maybe these trucks need 525 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,640 Speaker 13: to be slowed down. We need to do everything we 526 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 13: can in Texas to stop them. The taxpayers paid for this, 527 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 13: and they want to stop President Trump in thirty eight 528 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 13: or thirty nine days from rebuilding the wall. I want 529 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 13: to this is the legacy of Joe Biden. He lets 530 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 13: off his son, He's letting off all these criminals. He's 531 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 13: doing everything he can with these blue state governors and 532 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 13: mayors to destroy this country. They are traders to this country, 533 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 13: leaving terrorists, leaving murders, leaving rapist in this country. And 534 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 13: now he wants to sabotage this president before he takes off. 535 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 13: It is disgraceful and discussing he will go down as 536 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 13: the worst, most despicable president in the history of this 537 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 13: country because no one has done more to damage this 538 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 13: country and hurt American citizens. 539 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 5: I would agree with you on that. 540 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: I think the point he's making here is absolutely right. 541 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 2: But we're even if it's five dollars, you're double paying 542 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: for something that we've already paid for and it's just 543 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 2: solely out of spite. 544 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 6: Well, and let me say number one, thank god for Texas. 545 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 6: Thank god for Texas stepping up under that leading Dan. 546 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 6: I'm glad you're doing that. But I've got to say also, listen, 547 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 6: I'm gonna call on the incoming administration to investigate whoever 548 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 6: made the decision to do this. And let me be clear. 549 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 6: Let's say you're a government official, ben and you're pissed 550 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 6: off at the people who are coming in after you. 551 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 6: They're mad at You're mad at the voters because they 552 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 6: elected someone different. And let's say, for example, that you're 553 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 6: running you're running a police department. Your dad's a cop. 554 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 6: You're running a police department, and you've got a bunch 555 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 6: of police cars that let's say we're forty grand apiece, 556 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 6: and you're mad because there's a new sheriff that's been elected, 557 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 6: and so you decide to take the forty thousand dollars 558 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 6: police cars. Let's say you got ten of them, and 559 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 6: you go out and say, I'm going to auction the 560 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 6: forty thousand dollars police cars off for five apiece because 561 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 6: you want your successor not to have any police cars. 562 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 6: And so you sell forty thousand dollars police cars for 563 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 6: five bucks apiece. I'm going to tell you right now 564 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 6: that is theft from the taxpayers. The idea. I guarantee 565 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 6: you those segments of the wall. They don't cost five dollars, 566 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 6: they don't cost fifty dollars, they don't cost five hundred dollars, 567 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 6: they don't cost five thousand dollars. And I got to 568 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 6: say it is grotesque, and I am calling right now 569 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 6: for the incoming administration to investigate every person that made 570 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 6: the decision to steal from the American taxpayers because they 571 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 6: are such bitter partisans that they want to deprive the 572 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 6: federal government of assets that the taxpayers paid for. You 573 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 6: don't have the right to do that. It doesn't matter. 574 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 6: Nobody has the right to steal from the federal government. 575 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 6: If you're selling segments of this wall for five bucks apiece, 576 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 6: that in my view, is absolute theft. 577 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Sentner, 578 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal 579 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,240 Speaker 2: with my podcast and you can listen to my podcasts 580 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 2: every other day. 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