1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: Hi, Catherine, Hi Chelsea. The last time we saw each 2 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: other was at the Wheel Turn at my show in 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Los Angeles. It was so exciting to see you actually 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: doing your thing. Did you come to the first show 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: or the second show? The second show okay, good? The 6 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: second show was an A plus plus amazing. You were fantastic. 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Oh that was so fun. Thank you. It was. It's 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: always a nerve wracking in l A because I have 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: so many friends and family and industry that come that 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,640 Speaker 1: you're just like, funk funck fuck. And we did two 11 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: shows in one night, and then we went to San 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,680 Speaker 1: Francisco the next night. I did two shows there. By 13 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: the end of that, I was like, I can't think 14 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: anymore spent. I'm sure spent, But I want to promote 15 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: my Nashville show. Oh. I just announced a whole slew 16 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,639 Speaker 1: of news stand up. Yeah, and announced twenty five more 17 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: dates to the Vaccinated and Horny tour. So if you haven't, 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: if I haven't come to your city, check my website 19 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: Chelsea Handler dot com for new dates. And there are 20 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: tickets available for my second show in Nashville, where I 21 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: will be taping my special on June tenth at the Rheman. 22 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: So we also have merch for sale at Chelsea Hamler 23 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: dot com. We have Dear Chelsea merch and vaccinated in 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: a horny merch and that is all all really cute. 25 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: We're not selling flip flops. Contrary to popular belief. We 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: thought about it just to say fuck you, but we 27 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: did not do it. We did not pull the trigger 28 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: on that. Yes, COVID shipping delay has really made that 29 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: not possible. Yeah. One other thing I was going to 30 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: tell you about your show is that, totally randomly, my 31 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: husband accidentally bumped into a woman and then the person 32 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: she was with said, in a fun jokey way, do 33 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: you know who this is? This is Chelsea Handler's housekeeper. 34 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: And I was like my bell and gave her a 35 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: huge hug in this huge crowd of like thousands of people. 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: I'm like, of course, he steps on my fucking my bell. 37 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: I went to my bell. Is so funny. I went 38 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: to a pet psychic. I'm hosting Jimmy Kimmel Show the 39 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: week of June and we were doing some pre tape segments, right, 40 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: So one of them was me taking Bert and Bernie 41 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: to a pet psychic, and the pet psychic told me 42 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: that Berniee loves me more than anyone, that she's just 43 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: upset that I leave all the time, and that she 44 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 1: loves me the most, and that she's always playing hard 45 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: to get, which is has been my suspicion. I've always 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: been suspicious because Bernice is tricky and just like a girl. 47 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: Right she comes in. She'll come into my room, come 48 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 1: right up to my bed, sniff around, and when I 49 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: put my head down to scratch her nose or her face, 50 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 1: she runs out in Hall's ass like like I'm accosting her. 51 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: I'm like, bitch fucking came in here, and but I 52 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: know that that's it's her. She's insecure and she's just 53 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: trying to get my attention, and then she wants me 54 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: to come out and play with her. So the psychic 55 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: confirmed all of those beliefs for me, and I told 56 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: my Bell and ever since then, my Bell has been 57 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: treating Bernie's differently. Yeah, she's definitely. She sent me two 58 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: pictures of them at the park this weekend. Bert was 59 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: on a blanket and Bernice was in the dirt. So 60 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: is my Bell jealous? Now? Well she should? Yeah, she 61 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: she was jealous when I told her that she didn't 62 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: smile or laugh. She takes her ownership of pretty seriously. 63 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: And when I came home from filming that bit, I 64 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: said to Joe Coy, I was like, so I went 65 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 1: to this pet psychic and she said this, And then 66 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 1: Joe goes, well did she He goes, do you think 67 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: she looked you up beforehand? I'm like, Joe, it's a 68 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: pet psychic. I don't give a funk what she did. Like, 69 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: I'm not going there for some real information and feedback. 70 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: Even though the one piece of information I did like, 71 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: I decided to take. Yeah, keep what works for you, 72 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 1: get rid of what doesn't. Right. Yeah, it's very exciting 73 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: to be in New York City together. Yes, I can't 74 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: believe it. It was this weird thing where you had 75 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: today available. I was randomly going to be here in 76 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: New York and I'm heading to a plane in a 77 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,960 Speaker 1: few minutes after this. But there was like a one 78 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: hour and a half window where we could come and 79 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: also our fabulous guest today could be here. I know, 80 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: we're very excited about our guests today because we've been 81 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: trying to do this but in person only. Because she's 82 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: the type of person you only want to be in 83 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: person with because she's that kind of girl, and we 84 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: made it happen here in New York today. She is 85 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: a supermodel, a body activist, an entrepreneur, global ambassador for Nicks. 86 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: She just launched a new lingerie campaign with Nixt and 87 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: it's called a Big Strong Woman campaign. And she just 88 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: joined a skincare brand where she's an investor and partner 89 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: and it's called Big One. Please welcome Ashley Graham. Thank 90 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: you for having me. Oh my god, thank you for coming, 91 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: because well we're in New York today and we wanted 92 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: to do this in person. And I know that you 93 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: have been a baby making machine for one. Seems like 94 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: she's had about eight babies in the last It's what 95 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: it feels like. And every time I look at them, 96 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, there's more of you, and it feels like 97 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: they're just they're just they're growing and growing. Anyways, Yeah, 98 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: we're good. Thanks are you leaving? He's just supervirising always. 99 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: It's like, now you're like really working people that you're 100 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: sleeping with. I love it. Any other way to do things. 101 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: The guy who was just on on screen there, he's 102 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: my husband sleeping with him. Now that women, now that 103 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: women are allowed to. Is that your mom? Yes, that 104 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: is my mom. Yeah, and my sister she looks just 105 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: like you. How cute. Oh, it's a family affair today. 106 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: I love it. Did you dye your hair and you 107 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: have your eyeshadow in the same tone on purpose? I 108 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: was telling my mom used to have to tell her 109 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: not matchy matchy. It's not in anymore, like after the nineties. 110 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: It's over and you know, we were just talking about it. 111 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry, mom, matchy matchy is back in again. 112 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:42,919 Speaker 1: She's like, I just learned to stop doing that. Like 113 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: it's called monochromatic. Now. I love a monochromatic mama. I 114 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: feel cute. Your mother must be stoked though. Okay, so 115 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: there's you know, she's like there's grandma and then there's 116 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: caretaker Grandma, and she's caretaker Grandma. So she really likes 117 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: her days off. Oh it's different. It's different like being 118 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: granny who just comes in and sees the babies and 119 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: like leaves. She's like, okay, another day for you know. 120 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: I had Isaac in and then I had my twins 121 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: the top of this year in two and it's like, 122 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: right when I stopped breastfeeding, I got pregnant with the twins. 123 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: It was just boom boom boom, my body. I've given 124 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: it up to love. That's what Justin said, You gave 125 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: your body up to love. I'm just I'm ready for 126 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 1: it to come back, like to see myself again. But 127 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: I look at my little angels and I said, I 128 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: did it for you. So were you planning on getting 129 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: pregnant that soon after or did you? We talked about it. Yeah, 130 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: we said, okay, if we're going to do this again, 131 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: let's do it. And it wasn't like a hard decision 132 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 1: because we knew we wanted a second. But I didn't 133 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: know it's going to happen that quickly. And I did 134 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: not know it was going to be twins. If I 135 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: would have known it was going to be twins, I 136 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: probably would have waited maybe another year. I am glad 137 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 1: I got it over with. I always wanted three kids. 138 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: I didn't want a middle child. I didn't know how 139 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: that was going to work. But why do you say that? 140 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: Are you? I'm the oldest, and I am the boss eest, 141 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: I'm the loudest. I run the show and I have 142 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: seen how my baby sister acts and my middle sister acts, 143 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: and I just never wanted a middle child, didn't want 144 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: anyone like your middle sister. I'm a middle child. You are, 145 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: and do you feel like you're a handful um? Maybe 146 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: last than my sister who's in the other room right now. 147 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: Love you, Diana. It's hard when your family is listening 148 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: to the podcast in the next room, to be quite frank. 149 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: I love my sisters, but I have met so many 150 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: middle children, and I just that was my one request. 151 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: So I feel like God was on my side and 152 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: he said, Boom, you get twins. And there are two 153 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: hours and seven minutes apart. Two hours and seven minutes. 154 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: Oh God, that sounds like what happened in those two hours, 155 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: and literally laboring in a tinyess in New York City 156 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: bathtub because I was having my birthpool set up and 157 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: it just wasn't happening fast enough. And then boom, Roman 158 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: was like I'm coming out, mom, Oh my god. So yes, 159 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: I have been pregnant for two years, breastfeeding for freaking 160 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 1: two years. I'm on their four months now, I'm looking 161 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: at six months, and I'm going to check in mentally 162 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: with myself, see how I'm doing, and then either stop 163 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: or yeah, but I'm supplementing with formula, so it feels 164 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: like there's no formula shortage. So don't worry about that. 165 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: It is such a thing. But yeah, it's a tough 166 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: situation right now for all those families that need formula. Yeah. Absolutely, 167 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: Well tell me a little bit about what your experience 168 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: has been, because it's not just like you had one baby. 169 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: It is kind of like you had three babies and 170 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: you're done now. Because you know the statistics. If you 171 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: have three boys in a row, you automatically get a girl. 172 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: Because my mom. Yeah, well everybody keeps telling me, you 173 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: know you're gonna have a fourth if then it's going 174 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: to be a boy. Oh no, No, once you have three, 175 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: if one sex, the chances are higher that you're going 176 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: to have the opposite sex. My mom and all of 177 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: her sisters had three boys and then girls. Yeah, my 178 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: mom had three boys and three girls. Okay, so you're 179 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: telling me maybe I should try it again. Well, if 180 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: you want a girl, you know, I mean, unless you're 181 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: counting one of the kids to transition, you know what 182 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Right, you have to hence your bets, Like, 183 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: if you really want a girl, I think three is 184 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: a great number. For kids in a family, but four 185 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: is also a great number. I come from a big 186 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: family like you company are there there six? And you 187 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: come from like you either make what you had or 188 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: you abstained all together. You have a sister, Yes, we're 189 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: but we're two of four, so we have brothers on 190 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: either side. And my brothers are actually fourteen years apart. 191 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: Same parents, like same mom and dad were released spread apart. 192 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, we'll like each other. So I could just 193 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: wait another ten years, maybe exactly have a caboose. How 194 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: does Justin feel? What is it? What are his thoughts about? 195 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: He got a vasectomy? Oh, well I guess that answered, Well, 196 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: then I guess you're not having another baby. You can 197 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: reverse it. The doctor who gave it to him said 198 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,239 Speaker 1: he's done as many reversals as he's done actual vasectomies. 199 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: So that's like where we're standing right now. I knew 200 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: I love Justin for a reason. You know what, It 201 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: really takes a real man to get a sect to me. Yes, 202 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: I think that it's important to have that conversation in 203 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: your relationship. But he didn't have to have the conversation 204 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: with me. He just told me, I'm going to do it. 205 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't want You've done enough. He said, you carried 206 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: these children, you pushed them out, and I saw what 207 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: you went through. I can get a vasectomy. I know. 208 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: I didn't even have to ask him. I wish there 209 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 1: were other straight men listening to this podcast to take 210 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: this advice, you know what I mean. That's a real man, 211 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: and you guys have a beautiful, beautiful relationship that anyone 212 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: who's ever met and either one of you or even 213 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: watched you on social media can glean. He's such a sweetheart. 214 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: I feel so blessed to have him as my husband's 215 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: We're about to celebrate eleven and a half years, so 216 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: I guess no, we're about to celebrate twelve years. Yeah, 217 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: and three kids later. I mean, I don't know what 218 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna do for that twelfth year celebration, but it's 219 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: going to be something fun. I mean, you're about to 220 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: have one year celebration was a lot different. You have 221 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: to celebrate one year. Oh, Joe will want to celebrate 222 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: one year. He's all about celebrating. Is he the romantic? Yes, yeah, 223 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: he's the romantic. And I have a hard time. Oh well, actually, 224 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: you know the first time Joe and I got together. 225 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: I went to Nashville. I was performing in Nashville and 226 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: I was staying at a friend's house and I got 227 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: there and my assistant called and she goes, walk outside, 228 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: there's a delivery for you. And I went and I 229 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: saw three dozen long stemmed roses, and I immediately my 230 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: first instinct was like cringe, like roses. Don't send me roses. 231 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: And then I thought, no, Chelsea, Chelsea, that's the old 232 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: you you've been to. This is a man who's demonstrating love. 233 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: Accept it, he loves you. I had to say it 234 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: like in my head three times, like this is a 235 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: nice thing you like, and I was like, okay, okay, 236 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: I love this. And then I embraced them, and thankfully 237 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: I did, because he kept sending them over and over again. 238 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 1: And then we started sending them back and forth to 239 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: each other before each other's shows and performances. And then 240 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: finally I was like, hey, can we put a pin 241 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: in this? It's getting really expensive. It's like fucking dollars 242 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: every time. I'm like this is some ways like we're 243 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: not taking them with us, We leave them at the venue. 244 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 1: Have you figured out what that thing is in us? 245 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: Because my mom has it too, and it's like she's 246 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: she's not a romantic so and then I feel like 247 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: I picked it up from her, like I don't. I 248 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: feel like there's a part of me that wants the 249 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: romance but I don't. But I don't want to see 250 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: it overtly in my face. And I'm more like acts 251 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: of service. Right, we all know the five love languages? No, no, no, 252 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: actually what are they? Because I always forget the fifth one? Okay, 253 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: So acts of service, physical touch, time spent, gifts, and 254 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: words of affirmation, and mine is definitely acts of service 255 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: and maybe words of affirmation, like I don't need to 256 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: hear that I'm great because I know I am, but 257 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: it isn't I see it from my husband like I'm 258 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 1: really proud of you, or you did a great job. 259 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 1: We're getting a vasectomy, right, that's an act of that. 260 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: That's why I was like, Wow, you're amazing. There is 261 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: like this period after you get a vasectomy, though, you 262 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: have like sixteen ejaculations that you have to go through 263 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: before the sperm is dead. So we're literally like we 264 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: have one to show during those sixteen you can still 265 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: get pregnant, yes, And did you freeze any eggs? Just 266 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: he actually put some sperm in a in a bank. 267 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: Oh well, there you go. He's not making me do anything. 268 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, it's amazing. He did all the hard 269 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: he did that part. I did my part. I was 270 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: gonna say he did the hard part, but his part 271 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:32,199 Speaker 1: was definitely not that hard at all. That's so interesting 272 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 1: that you get sixteen. That's what the toxic number. He said. 273 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: It's like sixteen or like three months something like that. Yeah, 274 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: so I guess it's like in three months, maybe people 275 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: have sex sixteen times. That's what I was, like, whoa, 276 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: we have three kids. That's not happening. So anyways, back 277 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: through the love languages, that's where I am so confused 278 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: at myself, Like Justin is like Joe, he's Mr Romantic. 279 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: And now what I have noticed, and my mom has 280 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: had to train herself with her boyfriend is to accept 281 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 1: the love right except the romance. Otherwise, we train our 282 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: partners to to not be romantic, and then we start 283 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: looking for it and we're like, wait, you're not being 284 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: romantic anymore? Why are you? Where is that? So I've 285 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: actually had to reel back my like hard shell and 286 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: and accept it and then try out to step outside 287 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: of my comfort zone and send him flowers or like, 288 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: you know, just write little cards and put them under 289 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: his pillow, you know, like things that you think of 290 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: people in their late teens do in the early teens. Whatever. 291 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 1: I like that I didn't really have a boyfriend in 292 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: my early teens. I think that's it's it's really all 293 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: about accepting, you know, like Joe has melted me. Everyone 294 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: says it, everyone like sees it, and I usually I 295 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: would be resistant to that. I'd be like, stop it, 296 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: you know, like, but I've just given in because why not? 297 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: Why fight it? And but I think it's just being 298 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: a tough chick. You want to be a tough chicken, 299 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: you don't, you know, it's a very common thing for 300 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: anybody who's independent, fears and really successful. You don't show 301 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: a lot of vulnerability because that's not what it took 302 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: to get you where you are. So I think that 303 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: bleeds over into our relationships. What once you know, somebody 304 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: means what they're saying and it's not bullshit. I think 305 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: what irks me a lot about that is that it 306 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: feels insincere many times, and when it is finally sincere, 307 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: then you can be like Oh, like, I had a 308 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: boyfriend this he he was a real asshole, and he 309 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: would send me flowers like anytime we got into a fight, 310 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: but I didn't. I hated that. It's like, don't send 311 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: me flowers. You say you're sorry and mean it. I'm 312 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: not just like some chick on the side. We're together. 313 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: So when flowers are coming from an act of love 314 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: and it's just saying, oh, here, I'm demonstrating more and 315 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: more love to you, then it's easier to receive. I think. 316 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, I always wondered if it was a 317 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: learned behavior from my mom, But I like your explanation. 318 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: But I'm sure has learned from your mom, because your 319 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: mom is a tough cookie. Also, yeah, and yes, yes 320 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: she is. You're a gem. You're a gem, you are 321 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: and Joe is such a sweetheart. The two of you together. 322 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: I love it, and I know everybody's expressing it on 323 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: social media, like, oh my god, you guys are so 324 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: like it's so true though, it's so sweet. We were 325 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: walking through the city last night and I mean a 326 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: dozen people must have run up to us. They're like, 327 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: you don't understand. We love you together. We love you, 328 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like we're like, oh thanks, so like you 329 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: don't understand, We're like we do, we understand we're together. 330 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: But it's nice because women especially you know, like that 331 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: are my age or like oh wait, if you melted 332 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: and you found someone I was the ice green, then 333 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: anybody can. You know, it can happen. And it also 334 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: makes me believe in that for everyone. I believe everybody. 335 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: As long as you don't settle and you say like 336 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,160 Speaker 1: these are my standards, these are not moving regardless of 337 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: whether I'm with anyone or not, then somebody will meet 338 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: you right up there. And you know, standards with men 339 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: the last few years have had to get lower and 340 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,680 Speaker 1: lower and lower. That's that's why it's so funny that 341 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: I ended up with like, you know, a Filipino man, 342 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: because I was just so out of gas with white guys. 343 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,680 Speaker 1: I was like, listen, I have no more juice left 344 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: for you guys. It's too much. You know, you're to 345 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: a black man. I know, did you have a non 346 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: negotiable list? Like this is my non negotiables and if 347 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: if he doesn't have this, like I'm not even going 348 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: to see him. No. I made a list once with 349 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: Sarah Silverman and She and I and my sister actually 350 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 1: all made lists because somebody had told me that they 351 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: had made a list and they had met their person. 352 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: That's what I did. You did before you met justin. Yeah, 353 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: it was important. I had just broken up with a guy, 354 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: and then I realized that if I didn't make a list, 355 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 1: I wasn't going to meet the person that I wanted 356 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: to And then I also wanted to be single. And 357 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: I got basically everything on that list. I don't remember 358 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: the list because it was over twelve years ago, but 359 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: I wish I still had that list. Oh yeah, now 360 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: you probably wrote yours in your phone minds in my 361 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: notes section on my phone. So my list everything I 362 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: put skiing, and it's like you have to be a skier. 363 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: But I made it. It was a really long list, 364 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: but it wasn't shallow at all, Like it was deep 365 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: stuff like values, morals, la la la. You have to 366 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: be willing to stick your neck out for people. Don't 367 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: be an idiot, you know, the interest in traveling and 368 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: the ability to make it happen and the desire to 369 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: make it happen. But the one thing I put on 370 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: my list, said a man with a full head of 371 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: hair that was that was the one, the one shallow 372 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: thing that I vote, and so I fucking circle that 373 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: and I was just like, I sent it to Joe. 374 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm like, that is so funny that I sent a 375 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: full head of hair, Like I don't even think that 376 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: that was important to me. And then obviously it's not, 377 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 1: which is why we're making Joe a hairpiece. We're not. 378 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: We're not. I would never I only date bald Filipino 379 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: men from now on. That's my that's I think. But 380 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: he looks good, yeah, exactly, Well you'd have to. And 381 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: he has some hair that grows in, but it's he 382 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: just shaves it, which is exactly what I would want 383 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: a man to do, you know, just once things start 384 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: getting dicey, just shave it off. Yes, agreed. Okay, So Catherine, 385 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 1: tell us what we have in store today. Actually, you know, 386 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: we take callers some of our lives, some right in 387 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: and then we just give them life advice. It's really good. 388 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: I think you guys are really good at this. By 389 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: the way, Well we all try, right, yeah, right, Well, 390 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: we have some extremely exciting cheating questions. We have two 391 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: people from the Midwest calling in, Uh, some moms stuff 392 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: dealing with friendship. Oh god, we have some weight loss 393 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: stuff and some booty stuff, all kinds of questions. But 394 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: we'll take a quick break and we'll come back with 395 00:19:53,640 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 1: some callers. Okay, sounds good, and we're back. Actually, let's 396 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about Nicks before we go in, 397 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: because I know you have a partnership with Nicks and 398 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: you're promoting your new lingerie line with them. Tell us 399 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,879 Speaker 1: a little bit about that. First of all your boxes 400 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: in the mail. I cannot wait to shoot that lingerie. 401 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: Oh baby, it's come please, I mean talk about rocking 402 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: body and you are such goals your boobs. You don't 403 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: even know the conversations I've had with my mom about 404 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: your boobs. Now you have no idea. Oh I love that. No, seriously, 405 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: it's just like the perfect handful. Anyways, Nis and Ashley Graham. Yes, 406 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: we just launched my collaboration. Nix is really an amazing company. 407 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: They actually started with the period panti and it's like 408 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: a leakproof panty and they turned it into the leggings 409 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: and they've got amazing bras and underwear, but everything is supportive. 410 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: They go up to five X and they go down 411 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: to an extra small, so we're very inclusive, but it 412 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: really like I wanted to have something a little bit 413 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: sexier because they're very performance and solution based, so this 414 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: is their sexiest line yet, but also my most intimate 415 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 1: line because this is one of the first times I 416 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: came out after you know, shooting three kids out, first 417 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: first lingerie campaign, embracing my stretch marks, embracing my postpartum body, 418 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: but also just excited to have something that feels sexy 419 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: and cozy. You can wear it wherever. Yeah, I mean, 420 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 1: you have done so much for women in promoting your 421 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: body and accepting your body and loving your body, and 422 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: it's inspiring to me to women everywhere. I mean, you 423 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: really have opened the door for people to really be 424 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: themselves and to embrace all their little shortcomings or anything 425 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: that they think isn't deemed worthy by a man. Joe 426 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: once said to me. He said, we were in Hawaii 427 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: and I was putting on a bathing student and said, 428 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: how bad is my cellulate And He's like, honey, cellulite 429 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: is what makes a woman a woman. The more cellulite, 430 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: the merrier. I don't think he said the mayor here, 431 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: but he said something like that, and then I, and 432 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: I was like, honey, I didn't even know that was 433 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: a sentence. I thought, I said, every woman needs to 434 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: hear that, because who doesn't have fucking cellulite. I mean, 435 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,679 Speaker 1: there are anomalies out there, but the stretch marks, the 436 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: cellulite that the you know, we all fluctuate up and down, 437 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: you know, and what we see isn't seen by the world. 438 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: It's all like an inside job. So you really are 439 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: I know you know that already, but I wanted to 440 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: tell you that personally, because yeah, it's good to hear 441 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: it now, especially living in my postpartum body and like 442 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: trying to get out of out of my head. Even today, 443 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: I showed up and I wasn't supposed to wear these 444 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: pants with this shirt, and I was running out the 445 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: door and they're really baggy on me, and my my 446 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: stretch marks are just hanging out today and that was 447 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: not the plan. And I called my stilace and I said, 448 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: meet me outside of Chelsea Handler immediately with new pants, 449 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: and he said, babe, I'm not in town. And I 450 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: did not realize that, so I just I just sucked 451 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: it up, but I embraced it, and I'm just like, 452 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: here we go. And it's probably something neither of you 453 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: even notice, but it's in the back of my head. 454 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: And that's the whole thing with body confidence, with the 455 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 1: body neutrality and just loving where you are in your 456 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: life is it's in your head. It's not in the 457 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: person's head that you're speaking to or that you're around. Yeah. 458 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: Something I've done more recently, and this is partly influenced 459 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: by you, is when I'm looking through photos for approvals 460 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: for some shoots, you know, or press photos, when they 461 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: send me a selection, I don't even look anymore like 462 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: to go and pick through them. I just let my 463 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: publicists pick what they think the best one is. And 464 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: I don't go nuts like over if I don't like 465 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: a photo of myself and it's out there, it's like 466 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 1: who cares? Who gives a ship? You know? So that's 467 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: important and I think that also comes with age. It must, 468 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean for me, it definitely has. I can only imagine, 469 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: like walking into my forties, how much more confident I'm 470 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: going to be. I'm kind of excited. I'm not one 471 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: of those girls. It's like, Oh, I'm gonna be thirty 472 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 1: five and I'm gonna I'm going into my forties, isn't it. 473 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm so excited to to get older. Yeah. 474 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: I think that's the right attitude to have because I'm 475 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: forty seven and I was like, I just keep thinking 476 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be fifty soon, and I'm like, I can't 477 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: fucking wait to be fifty. How I feel about sixty 478 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: is going to be a different story. But I'll get there. 479 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 1: I'll get there when I need to get there. If 480 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: I make it that long, then I'm going to be 481 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: happy on the live last. Okay, so should we take 482 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 1: a caller? Well, our first email, the subject line is 483 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: we both cheated. It's from Maureen. She's a bartender in 484 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: her twenties. She says, Dear Chelsea, A couple of years ago, 485 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: when I was twenty one, I was bartending at a 486 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 1: big bar where I live as on brand as ever. 487 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: I hooked up with my manager for a while. Later, 488 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: I found out he was still dating his girlfriend, who 489 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,679 Speaker 1: had told me he'd broken up with. I did have 490 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: my speculations, but I honestly wasn't serious about him and 491 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about her enough to find out. I was selfish, 492 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: she found out. Fast forward to now they have a 493 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: kid are engaged and he's almost two years sober, which 494 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure had something to do that. I'm happy for them. 495 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: My problem is she goes to my gym. Now it's 496 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,239 Speaker 1: awkward and obvious. We both know who the other is, 497 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: and sometimes I wonder if I should confront her and 498 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: apologize for the whole thing. Complicating things, she started a 499 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: blog and in one of her posts discusses his alcoholism 500 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: and their relationship story. I support the blog, but it's 501 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 1: hard because I'm the undertone as the toxic person in 502 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: the posts, while he's seen as the alcoholic boyfriend that 503 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: was just quote going through so much. I'm willing to 504 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: admit that sucked up. But what are your thoughts on 505 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: the narrative that I'm the monster? Do I reach out? 506 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: Her whole blog is based around kindness, and it doesn't 507 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: make sense how she can give so much forgiveness and 508 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: understanding toward him then paint me to be toxic and 509 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: horrible all in the same post. We both cheated in 510 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: respect for her, I've often not gone to events I 511 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 1: know she'll be at since we have mutual ends. I'm 512 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 1: no angel and I've made lots of mistakes in my twenties, 513 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,719 Speaker 1: but I'm also willing to admit them, especially if they 514 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: hurt someone. I finally want to stand up for myself. 515 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: But then again, a part of me wonders if I'm 516 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: being selfish and just want to defend myself. I can't 517 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: be the only one out there that's felt this, Maureen, 518 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: do you want to go first, Ashley? I actually really 519 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: want to know what you think. I've never cheated and 520 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: I've never been cheated on. I don't think, yeah, I've 521 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: been cheated on, and I don't think I've cheated, but 522 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: maybe who knows. Um. First of all, no, don't do 523 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: anything because it's all in your head, like you're you're 524 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 1: having this whole narrative. You're letting her dictate how you 525 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 1: feel about yourself, and just let her go. Do her 526 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: blog first all, stop reading her blog, you know, block 527 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: yourself from that blog, and don't try to correct the situation, 528 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: because that's ego, and that's any sort of defense is ego. Like, 529 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: you don't need to be bigger than that. That was 530 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: a long time ago. It doesn't matter what the circumstances were. 531 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter that he was an alcoholic or was 532 00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 1: going through an alcoholic phase, or however she wants to 533 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: frame it, and however she wants to frame your relationship. 534 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: She's just trying to make herself feel better about that 535 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: period of time, and there's nothing you can do to 536 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: change her narrative. So the only thing you can do 537 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: is demonstrate that you're also a different person and act 538 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: like a bigger person, and then be a bigger person. 539 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: I think sometimes when you start acting like a bigger person, 540 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: it naturally happens that you become that. You know, It's 541 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: kind of like fake it till you make it. It 542 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: works like that. So yeah, you don't want to go 543 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 1: and correct the story. That's only going to result in 544 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: more icky behavior. And I think it's good that you 545 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: don't show up to parties that she's at, but that 546 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: also shouldn't be your rule of thumb. She's irrelevant kind 547 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: of to you. You've moved on. You both had a 548 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: past and that's not the present. I think that I 549 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,239 Speaker 1: would just erase the blog, never go back on it. 550 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 1: She's she's tormenting herself. I don't even know how to 551 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: read a blog, Like, how do you find blog is 552 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: a blog? Or she like posting this blog? So I 553 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: didn't know people still did that, right, I don't know. 554 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: It's not on my Space geo cities. I mean, it 555 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: definitely feels like this is my problem, and I'm twenty 556 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: years old, because as you get older, as you mature, 557 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 1: this is not going to become your problem, right. And also, 558 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: it's not her problem, it's his problem. If she really 559 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about it, she should go to him, 560 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: not her. Yeah, she knew what she was doing was wrong, 561 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: but like I kind of take umbrage with the phrasing 562 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 1: of we both cheated because he's the one who cheated. 563 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: She wasn't in a relationship. You know, she knew what 564 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: she was doing, but the phrasing is a little funky 565 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: for me. And anytime you want to go correct a 566 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: situation where you screwed up and so much time has elapsed, 567 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: all you're doing is reminding people what you represented and 568 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: during that time, instead of setting new impressions on those people, 569 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: which it sounds like you have the opportunity. It sounds 570 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: like she has the opportunity to do. Between the gym 571 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: and mutual friends parties, it's like, just go in there 572 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: and be your new self and so that they know 573 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: that's not who you are anymore, and you don't have 574 00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: to correct any of that narrative. I was talking to 575 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: a friend the other day and it's like, oh, I 576 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: should apologize about this thing that happened like three months ago. 577 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, don't bring it up again. No, but you know, 578 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: you're just kind of doing the opposite of what your 579 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: intention is. So yeah, zip it, get off her blog 580 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: and then find out why she still has a blog exactly. Well. 581 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: Our next question comes from Shannon, and she is calling 582 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: in from Iowa. She says, Dear Chelsea, and I'm a 583 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: twenty five year old new mom to my daughter, Salem. 584 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: I'm looking for advice on how to handle my friendships 585 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: because not one of my friends have come to meet 586 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: my baby. I'm stuck wondering whether or not it's my 587 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: responsibility to schedule these meetings, or if my friends are 588 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: being kind of shitty towards me by not making an 589 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: effort to meet her. Salem is now five months old. 590 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: I have a very small group of friends too, from 591 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: high school and three from college. They were all either 592 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: in my wedding or in attendance, and they all attended 593 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: the baby shower. One lives five hours away. Everyone else 594 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: is a one to three hour drive. The two from 595 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: high school come home every couple of months, sometimes more. 596 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: All of these friendships are pick up where we left 597 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: off types, but I regularly snapchat all of them and 598 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 1: send pictures of Salem. I sent everyone a message when 599 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: she was maybe two months old, saying that I was 600 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: sad none of my friends have met her yet, and 601 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: I hope they get the chance to meet her soon, 602 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: even if it's just for a quick lunch. Everyone responded, 603 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: of course, and that they were so excited to meet her, 604 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: and yet nothing has happened in the three months since. 605 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: I told myself that that message would be the last 606 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: time I would try to force meeting her on them, 607 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: and if they chose to not try to see us, 608 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: then it's their loss. But I'm still sad that the 609 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: people I consider my friends haven't shown up for me. 610 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: I understand that we're in different phases of life, none 611 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: of them having kids and only one being married, but 612 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm confused as to why I haven't had any support. 613 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: Not everyone is excited about kids, but this is such 614 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: an important part of me. My husband says I need 615 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: to drop them, but I don't want to do that 616 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: and be left with no friends. And I do care 617 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: about these people. I hate that this is negatively affecting 618 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: my mental health during such a special time in my life. 619 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: Lots of love, Shannon, Hi Shannon, Hello, Hi Shannon. This 620 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: is our special guest, Ashley Graham. Today. You've got two 621 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: of us, well, you've got three of us because Katherine Sarah, 622 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: She's she's running the whole operation. Yeah, good morning everyone, 623 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm so sorry to hear about that. Yeah, 624 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: it's been kind of tough. I totally understand where you're 625 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: coming from. Sorry to jump in here, but this is 626 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: exactly what happened to me just f y I. I 627 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: had a very very very small friend group and the 628 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: people who wanted to meet Isaac they came over and 629 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: they met Isaac and they said when can I come? 630 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm coming. And the few people who didn't really reach out, 631 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: they're just not a part of my life anymore. And 632 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: it's really bizarre how these big life moments can cut 633 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: out the weeds. And when I say the weeds, I 634 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: mean the people who really aren't in it for you. 635 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: I will say I did have to put it on 636 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: myself and say hey, hey, if you want to come over, like, 637 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: here's your parameters. I would give everybody like two hour 638 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: windows because when you have when you know you're a 639 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 1: new mommy, you're exhausted, your baby is tired. People like 640 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 1: to overstay, they're welcome. So I definitely gave people two 641 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: our windows. But the few people that were excited to 642 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: come over made an effort. Some people even flew in. 643 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: It was some of the local people that didn't make 644 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: an effort. And I will also tell you I only 645 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: speak to two people in my wedding and I had 646 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: six bridesmaids, just to put in perspective for you, so 647 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: that also happens. It sucks, and it feels so isolating. 648 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: You feel like you have no one. You feel like 649 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: they're it's kind of this place where how am I 650 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: going to get out of this? Who else can I 651 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 1: speak to? You will get out of it, You just 652 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: have to stay strong. And I started journaling, like actually 653 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: like pen to paper journaling instead of on the computer. 654 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you're in such a transitional part of your life. 655 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: I know when I lived in a different city than 656 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: my friends, it was like when you're home and you 657 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: have just a couple of days or a week it's 658 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: really harder than you think to see everybody, you know. 659 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I think I would say, like giving them 660 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: that specific time of like, you know what, why don't 661 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: you come over on Tuesday, We'll have a little brunch, 662 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,719 Speaker 1: come over for momosas or whatever. Giving them those specifics 663 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: I think might make it a little more accessible for 664 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: them to to take you up on the offer, rather 665 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: than having it just be a broad invitation of like 666 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: come over whenever. Yeah, And I think coming from somebody 667 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: who doesn't have kids, whose friends have kids, like anyone 668 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: who is meaningful to me, I would make the time. 669 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: There definitely have been friends of mine that have a 670 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: baby and and it's all consuming, which it is. It's 671 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: totally is, but it doesn't feel like there's gonna be 672 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: any friend time. So I feel like everything we do 673 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: is always going to be around the baby, right, which 674 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 1: is totally reasonable. I mean, you're we said you your 675 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: baby is five months old, right, so obviously that is 676 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: going to be all consuming. But I think for your 677 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: friends that don't have babies that maybe can't relate to that, 678 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: you can offer them up like, hey, I want to 679 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: see you guys, regardless, I want you to meet the baby. 680 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: We don't have to spend the whole day with the baby, 681 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,439 Speaker 1: but I want it's meaningful to me, as you guys 682 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: are my close friends, for you to meet the baby, 683 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,840 Speaker 1: and then we can have a nice group lunch or 684 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 1: do our own thing, you know, and you can have 685 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: the baby. If you have a babysitter, your husband can 686 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: watch her for a couple of hours, so you guys 687 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 1: can go to lunch and catch up. But you know, 688 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: so that you can get both of those things in 689 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 1: so that you still have your individuality within that group. 690 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: And they're also paying you the respect of meeting your child, 691 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: which is an important thing for you to have them 692 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: do because it's important for you to have your own 693 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 1: individuality outside of mommy world. Two yeah, I think sometimes 694 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: single women who aren't parents are sometimes overwhelmed by people 695 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: when they have babies because of their inability to relate 696 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: to that. So just keep that in the back of 697 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: your mind and just try to like give them specific options. 698 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: I when can we do this. Let's set up a 699 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 1: time you guys can come over and meet the baby 700 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: and then we can either have lunch at the house 701 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 1: or we can go out do our mimosas whatever. You 702 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,400 Speaker 1: and your girlfriends like to get up to. Yeah, I 703 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: mean that sounds good. I have just been struggling with 704 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: the fact that I have reached out and I have 705 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: been like, please tell me when you're in town so 706 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 1: we can try to schedule something, and then they never 707 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: say anything that's specifically. Like my high school friends, my 708 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,400 Speaker 1: college friends, on the other hand, they don't have a 709 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: reason to be here other than for me, And you know, 710 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,439 Speaker 1: they all say that they're so excited to meet her, 711 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: and then just nothing ever happened. So it's kind of 712 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: a weird predicament that I'm in whether or not I 713 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: need to be the one stepping out all the time, 714 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: or if they need to take this on their backs too. 715 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, speaking from experience, it's going 716 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: to be on you because you're the one with the gift, 717 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: right your your child was a gift to this world, 718 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,320 Speaker 1: and you want to share your gift with the people 719 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,439 Speaker 1: that you love so much, and the people around you 720 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: are going to be so excited, But they also don't 721 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: understand what you're going through. They don't understand the sleepless nights, 722 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: they don't understand what you're going through with formula breastfeeding, 723 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,399 Speaker 1: whatever is going on in your relationship, and so they 724 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: can't see that. So you really have to put yourself 725 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: out there in a way that feels maybe uncomfortable for 726 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: you right now. But if you are so adamant about 727 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: these college friends meeting your gorgeous little daughter, which I 728 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: love her name by the way, um, yeah, that is 729 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: truly going to be on you to show your gift 730 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: to the people that you love so much. And then 731 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: once that door is open, then you will see who 732 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: really like wants to be a part of her life 733 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,839 Speaker 1: and still be a part of your new life, because 734 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: your life is completely changed now and there are probably 735 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: some people in your life or that were in your 736 00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: life that you don't want in your life anymore. And 737 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: this is just showing you everybody's cards. And I don't 738 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: think you should be offended by it. I think that 739 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: you're young and you're figuring it all out now and 740 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: you should actually be grateful. Yeah. Yeah, definitely is going 741 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: to be very eye opening to see who is wanting 742 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,760 Speaker 1: to stick around in our lives and who just really 743 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: doesn't care anymore. And that's what my husband has been 744 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: saying to me. But I think it's just been kind 745 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,919 Speaker 1: of hard to come to grips with the fact that 746 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: those people who have always been here for me so 747 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: consistently just haven't made the effort. And that's just been 748 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 1: hard to come to terms with big life events. Big 749 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: life events weddings, kids, divorce, and funerals. That's where you 750 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: figure out who your real friends are. Yeah, and you know, 751 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: I like that you said that, actually, that you're not 752 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,799 Speaker 1: speaking to half of your bridal party anymore, because I 753 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,799 Speaker 1: think that's that's so true. It's so true, and it's like, 754 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: it's definitely true for me. I I have friendships that 755 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: have ended throughout my entire life, and I always have 756 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,759 Speaker 1: new ones sprouting up, so there's always a revolving door 757 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,840 Speaker 1: in my life. I have some very old friends, but 758 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: a lot of my friendships, you know, our first short 759 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,319 Speaker 1: periods of time or ten years, and then we kind 760 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: of drift off or something happens and we get into 761 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: an argument or you know, who knows, And but I 762 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: think you should just I know it hurts, but it's 763 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: also the cycle of life, Like people come in and 764 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: out for different reasons, and you should be open. Also 765 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: as a new mother. I'm sure you're doing lots of 766 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: things that involve other new mothers. You know, you have 767 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: the opportunity to meet new friends and make new relationships 768 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 1: and cultivate those things, and there's going to be exciting 769 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 1: relationships within those relationships as well, So you're holding onto 770 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: kind of holding onto the past in a way, and 771 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: you can definitely call them out and say like, hey, 772 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: this is it. I really need you guys to step up, 773 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: and then now's the time, and just be prepared for 774 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 1: some of them not to be able to do that. Yeah, 775 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm definitely prepared for my heart to be broken a 776 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: little bit by those friendships. And I guess this is 777 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: just kind of where we're at in life. I'm just 778 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 1: in such a different place, I think than everybody else. 779 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,400 Speaker 1: And you know, they go out naval party and everything 780 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: like that and take trips and enjoy, you know, not 781 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: being tied down like this, and I'm at home and 782 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: I'm really content doing that. I just wish, you know, 783 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 1: I had a little more support. But I have a 784 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 1: great family system around me. My husband's parents are in town. 785 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: My parents are really close by, so we do get 786 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: a lot of time with them, and that's been really 787 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: supportive over you know, these past five almost now six months. 788 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: That's what you have to focus on. Yeah, be grateful 789 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,439 Speaker 1: for the things that you do have. So many people 790 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: don't have their parents right when you're raising a child. 791 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: You have two sets. I mean, that's really lucky. So 792 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: focus on the positive. You know, you like your in laws, Wow, 793 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: that's really great. Yeah, No, they're they're an awesome support 794 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,719 Speaker 1: system for us. And my mom takes for multiple days 795 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: a week, and you know, I couldn't ask for anything better. 796 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 1: There really are the best. And also these phases they 797 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 1: go away, like enjoy this phase and then the next phase. 798 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's all about the phases. I'm That's 799 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: what I keep telling myself at least, and always remember 800 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,360 Speaker 1: like whenever you're going through a difficult time, there's sunshine 801 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,399 Speaker 1: around the corner, Like you don't know how quickly things 802 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: are going to turn and who's going to show up 803 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: for you surprisingly or what new people are going to 804 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: come into your life. No, like bad phase or feelings 805 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: hurt last for that long. It's always just a little moment. 806 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,400 Speaker 1: It's ephemeral and it will move on and then something 807 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: else is just around the corner. Yeah, I definitely try 808 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: to keep that in perspective. It's kind of hard right now, 809 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: you know, losing all the people that I was so 810 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 1: close too. But that's great advice, and I hope I 811 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,280 Speaker 1: can really remember that going forward. I wrote a farewell 812 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: letter to my one friend. I didn't give it to her, 813 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: but I wrote it to her, and it was heartbreaking. 814 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: It was actually on Thanksgiving before I gave birth to 815 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 1: the twins, and it was really hard for me to 816 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: write it, and it was like almost twenty year relationship. 817 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: And I will say, like, it's it's important to write 818 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: this out. It's important to get it out of your 819 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: body because you're storing trauma right now. And it's not 820 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: that big of a trauma, but it's trauma that's going 821 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 1: to build. And that's not something you want to pass 822 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 1: on to your kids because it's little now, but it's 823 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: going to be bigger later. So get it out of 824 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: your body. That's a great that's great advice. Actually I'm 825 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: going to take that because I have a friendship that ended, 826 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,960 Speaker 1: a long one and a close one, and I have 827 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: so much I want to say. You get all this 828 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: stuff stored up and you just keep recirculating in your brain, 829 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,560 Speaker 1: and like, who wants that energy inside them. No, and also, 830 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: you know, when you write an email, like I would 831 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: suggest writing an email to all these girls you can 832 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,359 Speaker 1: see see them all, or do it individually and just 833 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,960 Speaker 1: put your heart on your sleeve and just be very 834 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,959 Speaker 1: honest without being necessarily needy in that you're more making Yeah, 835 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 1: you're making a statement, not accusatory. But this is how 836 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,600 Speaker 1: this makes me feel. This is what happened. This is 837 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: I'm so disappointed. I really hope that you guys would 838 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: have more interest or you know, stepped up to me 839 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: my baby. But I understand if this is you're you're 840 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: not in this place in your lives. I get that, 841 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 1: but I think you should show them, you know, let 842 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: them know that you're hurt. Most importantly, Yeah, I definitely 843 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:11,280 Speaker 1: don't want to make anybody feel like I'm being accusatory 844 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,320 Speaker 1: or super mean or anything like that, because I genuinely 845 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: am sad. And that's what I kind of told them 846 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 1: a couple of months after she was born, is that 847 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,680 Speaker 1: I was just sad and I said it in a 848 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: nice way, but maybe I didn't say it directly enough, 849 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: and I might need to go out of my way 850 00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 1: to say it a little more direct to them. People 851 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: cannot read your mind. I have learned that one. Yeah, 852 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,280 Speaker 1: and it's back to what Ashley said about putting yourself 853 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: in a kind of like uncomfortable zone. You know, just 854 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 1: put yourself in a situation that may not be you, 855 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,080 Speaker 1: but you gotta stretch your legs a little to get 856 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: your point across so that you can feel good about 857 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 1: it ten years down the road or five years down 858 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 1: the road. I mean, I think that's the key about 859 00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: getting older, is when you have these kind of confrontations 860 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: or conflicts, to handle them with grace and dignity so 861 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: that when you look back, you don't you're not mad 862 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:03,359 Speaker 1: at yourself for acting childishly. Yeah, because I'm kind of 863 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: mad at myself right now for not saying stuff sooner 864 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: and not being direct enough. So yeah, I think the 865 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: email and maybe reaching back out again and giving them 866 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: more specifics is going to be helpful. You just tell 867 00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:19,719 Speaker 1: them you talk to your therapist Chelsea and Ashley, and 868 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: then maybe you'll get an email back. Yeah. I think 869 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: that will be super helpful. It's basically like talking to 870 00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: Dr Phil and Oprah. Hello very much. Yeah, thank you, Shannon, 871 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: Thanks Sanna, get up with everything. Let us know how 872 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: it goes okay, follow up. Yeah, thank you so much, guys, 873 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Congratulations, Yeah, thank you, thank you. By bye. 874 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: That must feel so solitary, like so lonely. Yeah, you 875 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: feel isolated. It's a disgusting feeling. But at LEAs she 876 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: has her husband, like she said, her family, like that's 877 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: a big deal. But having that outside community also makes 878 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: a big difference. She just sounds like she needs to 879 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 1: go out with some friends, she needs to join a 880 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,760 Speaker 1: mommy and me group or whatever the net without the kids. 881 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: One night, just one right, right, right. So when you 882 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: wrote that letter, you were you planning on just writing 883 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: it for yourself or did you think maybe you're going 884 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: to send it to your friend. So I'm worked with 885 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 1: my midwives. I did home births and one of the 886 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,359 Speaker 1: biggest things in doing a home birth is trusting your body. 887 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:23,160 Speaker 1: And my midwives actually make you go through this thing. 888 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:27,359 Speaker 1: It's therapy session called havening, and it's touch therapy where 889 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,880 Speaker 1: you bring up past traumas that you deal with in 890 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: the moment before you walk into home birth. And this 891 00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: is this is for any part of your life, like 892 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: it does. It's not just surrounded by birth, but it's 893 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 1: surrounded by traumas, and but you do it on the 894 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: day you're going to give me, No, you do it 895 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: beforehand so that your body is in full trust mode 896 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: and that your baby, which epigenetics they can feel everything 897 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: you're feeling, also is in full trust mode. So my 898 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: twins were both head down and then one of them 899 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:58,120 Speaker 1: went head up breach and he kept flipping and they 900 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 1: were like, are you going through something thing? And I'm like, 901 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,799 Speaker 1: what do you mean going through something? And they were like, 902 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,440 Speaker 1: is everything okay at home? Like what's up with your family? 903 00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: And then justin kind of looked at me and he 904 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,359 Speaker 1: said my friend's name. And I was like, it's not that, 905 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: and she looked at me and she said, so it's that. 906 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: And I just started crying. And she said, these things happen, 907 00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: like big life decisions or changes in your life, like 908 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,040 Speaker 1: having a baby are going to move people in and 909 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: out of your life. And she said the only way 910 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 1: to get around this and for you to have a successful, 911 00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: not not unsuccessful birth, but like an even easier birth, 912 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: is to get this out. And and that's why I 913 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: told her. I was like, you need this is like 914 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,040 Speaker 1: in you and it needs to come out. So that 915 00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,359 Speaker 1: you're not passing this along. And that's what I did. 916 00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 1: That's when I wrote the letter to her, and it 917 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,160 Speaker 1: was all on Thanksgiving and it was like surrounded by 918 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: the holidays because we've always been the holidays together and 919 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: I my intention at the time wasn't to send it 920 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 1: to her, It was just to get it out. I've 921 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 1: been thinking about maybe sending it because I want something 922 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,839 Speaker 1: like I want a door closed because it feels still 923 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: feels really wide open, but I feel so good that 924 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: it's out of my body. Yeah, I'm going to do that. 925 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: I have a similar situation, and I think I'm going 926 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 1: to do that because yeah, anytime I think about it, 927 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: it's just those thoughts that circulate, like how hurt I 928 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,680 Speaker 1: am about this, and how I can't believe that and that, 929 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: and and it's like, God, I know better to to 930 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: then to have those kinds of toxic thoughts circulating in 931 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: your body, you're just doing damage everything you would say 932 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,200 Speaker 1: and all those little it's like high school thoughts, you know. 933 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 1: I can only compare it to that kind of like 934 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,440 Speaker 1: small small mindedness when we let those ideas corrode are 935 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:45,359 Speaker 1: kind of like being and it builds up in your body. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, 936 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 1: our next caller is Quinn, she says, Dr Quinn Medicine woman. 937 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 1: Let's hope better be She says, Dear Chelsea, I've recently 938 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,960 Speaker 1: struggled with losing weight and all its implications. I've been overweight, 939 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,720 Speaker 1: or at least perceived to be overweight, most of my life. 940 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 1: Every time I begin my lifestyle changes and tried to 941 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 1: be healthier, I always hit the roadblock of this question, 942 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: should I be losing weight to try and love myself 943 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,880 Speaker 1: more in game confidence or focus more on loving my 944 00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: current body and let the lifestyle changes follow. Dating also 945 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,360 Speaker 1: plays a part in all of this. We're currently I 946 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,680 Speaker 1: haven't had much luck dating. I fear that if I 947 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:21,839 Speaker 1: lose weight, I will in the back of my head 948 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: always think would they have dated me when I was overweight? 949 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: I know, no matter what, I need to be healthy 950 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,080 Speaker 1: and make these lifestyle changes, but I know that's not 951 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: going to happen until my mindset is in the right place. Quinn. Hi, Quinn, Hi, 952 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 1: how's it going good? How are you hi? Quinn? How 953 00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 1: are you good? Well? We have the Body Positivity Guru 954 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,439 Speaker 1: studio today, so I'm gonna let you take the lead 955 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: on this I was just thinking, God, I've totally been 956 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: in your shoes, and I've always wondered, God, if I 957 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,600 Speaker 1: lost weight, would he be with me because I lost 958 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,000 Speaker 1: the weight? Or you know, it's like, should I get 959 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: even bigger and then start dating and you know, just um, 960 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: just out of spite for whoever I end up with. 961 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: And then I realized, God, I'm really going at this 962 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,840 Speaker 1: the wrong way. I totally hear you, and I know 963 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: how your brain is going a million miles a minute, 964 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: and you go to sleep thinking about your weight, You 965 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,919 Speaker 1: wake up thinking about your weight. When you go out 966 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,239 Speaker 1: and you're eating, you think about your weight, You think 967 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,120 Speaker 1: about your weight when you're getting dressed. I know that feeling, 968 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 1: and the best thing for you to realize is that 969 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,880 Speaker 1: it's not going to go away until you face it 970 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,359 Speaker 1: head on. And there's so many different ways to face 971 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: it head on where you can actually write out your 972 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: affirmations that I have done and I have preached about 973 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,760 Speaker 1: a million times, you know, have them on your mirror, 974 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 1: have them on notepads, have them recorded into your phone 975 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 1: about how you feel and how you want to feel. 976 00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,560 Speaker 1: I always say, like, don't lie to yourself. Give yourself 977 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 1: attainable goals in in your affirmations. But you know, this 978 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 1: is something that's that's either going to plague you for 979 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,919 Speaker 1: the rest of your life or you can actually meet 980 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,359 Speaker 1: it where you are. And I had to do that. 981 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: And I have to say even now, like I just 982 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,240 Speaker 1: popped out a few kids and I'm forty something pounds 983 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: up and I think about that number and I don't 984 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 1: get on the scale because of it. I don't put 985 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 1: on certain clothes because of it, because it's like this 986 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: like looming thing in the back of my mind, like 987 00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,040 Speaker 1: when is it going to go away? Will it ever 988 00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,680 Speaker 1: come off on my body? Blah blah blah. You know 989 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: exactly what I'm talking about. But it's something that a 990 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,000 Speaker 1: You're doing a great job in coming here and talking 991 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: about it, because this is going to feel really good 992 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,440 Speaker 1: when you get off of this call and be you 993 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: just have to like start an action, like whatever that 994 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 1: action is for you, whether it's the writing it down 995 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,959 Speaker 1: and actually seeing the words, or having the out loud 996 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 1: conversations with yourself, or making sure that you know you're 997 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: not changing who you are for somebody else. I think 998 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 1: that that's really important to remember. But by the way, 999 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,080 Speaker 1: like no matter what your body is your temple, so 1000 00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,279 Speaker 1: take care of it. Don't change it because of of 1001 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 1: somebody else's perception or even the perception of yourself. Yeah, 1002 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,759 Speaker 1: and I think you know, your goal really is to 1003 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 1: be healthy and strong, right, Like, that's what we all 1004 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: want out of life. We want to be durable, we 1005 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: want to last a long time, and we want to 1006 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,279 Speaker 1: be healthy and strong. So taking those steps to get 1007 00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: there is going to help you feel better about yourself 1008 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 1: because you know that you're actually, you know, eating clean 1009 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 1: food and healthy food and not bullshit. I read this 1010 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 1: quote from Barack Obama once how he was He He's like, 1011 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: I eat for fuel, not for you know, Like, and 1012 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,719 Speaker 1: I was like, fuck you, you're a guy, you know, 1013 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 1: not everybody's eating for fuel. I don't understand people. But 1014 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: but what But there's a variation of that where it's like, what, 1015 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,160 Speaker 1: what are you putting into your body that's going to 1016 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: help you be strong and fit? And you know what, 1017 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean being a certain weight. It means being healthy, 1018 00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,320 Speaker 1: minded about yourself and your appearance, knowing that you're taking 1019 00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: care of yourself. You know, I didn't drink water for 1020 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: the longest time, so I just hated the flavor of 1021 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: it because there is none. So I now have to 1022 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,520 Speaker 1: doctor up my water with my little lemon packets every 1023 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:14,479 Speaker 1: morning like a psychopath in order for me to drink 1024 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 1: a liter of water every day. But every day I'm like, 1025 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: every time I take a sip of the water, I'm like, 1026 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:21,719 Speaker 1: you're helping yourself. You're you know, you're hydrating your body. 1027 00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:25,440 Speaker 1: You're hydrating your body. Like it's whatever your bad habits are. 1028 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,080 Speaker 1: If you can flip those, the mental game that that 1029 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: plays gives you a lot of self esteem and a 1030 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,319 Speaker 1: lot of self respect. But that takes a lot of work, 1031 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: I will say, because I'm at a place where, like 1032 00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: I am a rewarder. Food is a rewarder for me. 1033 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know about you guys, but like this is 1034 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: how I was raised, and so the plate has to 1035 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: be clean and and if I did like a good 1036 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: job for whatever that thing was that day or week, 1037 00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 1: it's like what am I eating? So I hear you, 1038 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,399 Speaker 1: but I'm still working on that because it's like, oh, 1039 00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,560 Speaker 1: fuel my body. Yes, I can feel my all day long. 1040 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,600 Speaker 1: I've got like a charcuderie board in the car waiting 1041 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: for me when I get out of here. However, However, 1042 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:08,400 Speaker 1: it's like, am I going to treat myself to a 1043 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: handful of peanut eminem's later? Yeah? Probably. So it's all 1044 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,000 Speaker 1: about balance. Everything is balanced, and it's a hard place 1045 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 1: to get to. Yeah, And you're not going to be 1046 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,680 Speaker 1: perfect all the time. I'm not. I mean, I was 1047 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: just telling Joe in my hotel room this weekend. I 1048 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: went to go open a bag of potato chips and 1049 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't even be like a normal person about it. 1050 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,720 Speaker 1: I had to bite it open and then the whole 1051 00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 1: thing fucking exploded all over my room. And then I 1052 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:34,880 Speaker 1: was like, oh, funk those, I'll go get a chocolate. 1053 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 1: They had this chocolate toffee bar and I did the 1054 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:39,920 Speaker 1: same thing. I ripped it open. The whole thing crashed 1055 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,239 Speaker 1: open on the bed, and I just looked like a 1056 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,879 Speaker 1: revolting pig. And I'm like, well, see this is what 1057 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:47,839 Speaker 1: you get for like eating in haste like that, you know, 1058 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,840 Speaker 1: when you still eat it. No, No, I had to 1059 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: clean it up. It was all over the place. I've eaten, thanks, listen, 1060 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:56,880 Speaker 1: I'm eating things out of the Okay, let's not pretend 1061 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,840 Speaker 1: that I haven't. I once had an egg McMuffin in 1062 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: my glove, come apartment overnight and ate it. So I'm 1063 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,600 Speaker 1: not going to pretend I'm above that. But I think 1064 00:53:05,719 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: as long as you start to cultivate little healthy habits, 1065 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 1: they don't have to be a mandate for your life. 1066 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: Little healthy habits, you know, like you're gonna end your 1067 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,399 Speaker 1: day with this meal, or you're gonna start your day 1068 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,920 Speaker 1: with this meal, and just think about nourishing yourself and 1069 00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: giving your Like last night we were at sushi and 1070 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,160 Speaker 1: the last thing I wanted with spinach. But I'm like, no, 1071 00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: I want something green at every meal, Like I have 1072 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 1: to do that for my health. You know, it's a 1073 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,960 Speaker 1: good people have said instead of taking away, add to 1074 00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 1: the plate, right, Yeah, when you eat all that stuff, 1075 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, if you fill up on good stuff for 1076 00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:38,120 Speaker 1: your body, your body doesn't crave all the bad stuff 1077 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:40,880 Speaker 1: after a while. So you just have to just start 1078 00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,000 Speaker 1: cultivating healthier habits, and you know it will, it will 1079 00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: get easier, and it will make it will do the 1080 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: thing for your mind that all the things that Ashley 1081 00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,879 Speaker 1: is talking about and work in conjunction with that, you know, 1082 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 1: giving yourself positive affirmations, reminding yourself that your body is 1083 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,640 Speaker 1: here to carry you through so take care of it 1084 00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,799 Speaker 1: and treat it with respect, and also just get out 1085 00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,560 Speaker 1: there start dating, right. It doesn't matter what size you are. 1086 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,319 Speaker 1: There is somebody who will be like into you for 1087 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 1: who you are. If you're ready to start dating and 1088 00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 1: you're feeling good with yourself, yeah, and then once you 1089 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 1: start sucking somebody that you like, and you're not going 1090 00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,200 Speaker 1: to have that much of an appetite. Okay. Anybody who 1091 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 1: falls in love knows that lose ten pounds right off 1092 00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,319 Speaker 1: the back because you're just like, all I want to 1093 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 1: do is have sex. Yeah, how much way did you lose? 1094 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,200 Speaker 1: Joe's lost thirty pounds, so he's the hot body in 1095 00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:27,920 Speaker 1: the relationship, and I just do I keep putting on weight. 1096 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, but but back the funk up with your body, buddy. 1097 00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,640 Speaker 1: Then you start eating? Yeah yeah yeah, once you get happy, 1098 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,640 Speaker 1: then you started eating. That's like, when can we eat again? 1099 00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm already thinking about food. You're talking about it. I'm like, 1100 00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 1: what am I going to have? But anyway? You know 1101 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,080 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, I definitely start dating. That's gonna 1102 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,280 Speaker 1: be fun. You want to go have fun with guys 1103 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,920 Speaker 1: or girls or who what whatever you're into? Yeah, I 1104 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 1: think I'm in listening to you guys stuff too. I've 1105 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 1: realized too that anyone that I want to be with, 1106 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:01,360 Speaker 1: it's also just gonna agree with like the values I 1107 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:03,360 Speaker 1: have and like my lifestyle, and like, I'm not going 1108 00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,239 Speaker 1: to choose someone who's like, no, you look bad or 1109 00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, I want you to get to this point. 1110 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 1: I obviously with just day one that's the red flag 1111 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:15,160 Speaker 1: and I wouldn't die with them day one. Yeah, I think, yeah, 1112 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 1: this very helpful and I will definitely start to do 1113 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 1: some of that. Are you on any dating apps, Quinn? Yeah, 1114 00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:26,640 Speaker 1: I'm on you know, like the typical three Bumble, Tinder 1115 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: and Hinge, and I go through waves. You know, it 1116 00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 1: gets kind of boring going through the same questions over 1117 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:32,960 Speaker 1: and over again, like oh, what do you do? How 1118 00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:34,920 Speaker 1: are you doing? You know, what have you been up to? 1119 00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: And I also get kind of loyal for where if 1120 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm talking to someone, I'll just like, oh, I'll just 1121 00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,279 Speaker 1: keep talking to them, and then I'll fizzle out and 1122 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,839 Speaker 1: then I'm like, oh, I just lost out on all 1123 00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,239 Speaker 1: these other matches or you know, no, you have to 1124 00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,359 Speaker 1: talk to like twenty people at the same time. This 1125 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: is what I left my mom. Like four years ago, 1126 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,439 Speaker 1: she finally started online dating, and she did a car 1127 00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 1: ride from California to New York and she had her 1128 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: bumble on and went on dates throughout the country and 1129 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,359 Speaker 1: met and ended up meeting the guy she's with now 1130 00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: and they've been together for three years. And I have 1131 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 1: to say, like, you have to talk to everybody at 1132 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: the same time, because that's what everybody else is doing. 1133 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't have any experience in this. This is all 1134 00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 1: watching my mother do this. That's a great idea for 1135 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,239 Speaker 1: any woman. I could do a road trip across the 1136 00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 1: country and just meet up with different guys. She was 1137 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,280 Speaker 1: with her friends. Yeah, yeah, perfect. Well, thank you so much, Quinn. 1138 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:33,280 Speaker 1: I appreciate having on. Thank you and congrats to actually 1139 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 1: on your twins and Chelsea. I saw you in December. 1140 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,919 Speaker 1: I believe in Madison here, so it was a great show. 1141 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,759 Speaker 1: Thanks for that. Thanks for coming, Quinn. I love that. Yeah, 1142 00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:47,439 Speaker 1: thank you, bye bye. Oh. Everyone just needs a little 1143 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:53,239 Speaker 1: confidence booster, right Madison, Wisconsin. I love it there. You're 1144 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 1: from Nebraska. Yes, yeah, that's another great place. I've performed 1145 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,920 Speaker 1: in Omaha. I was just I was just in Birmingham, Alabama, 1146 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, it was one of the best 1147 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 1: shows I've ever had. Another one was oh maaha, and 1148 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,680 Speaker 1: the other one was Louisville, Kentucky. Places where you think 1149 00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna go and you're just like, oh God, this 1150 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 1: isn't gonna be and every time it was awesome. Yeah, 1151 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 1: because there's those liberal pockets of people there that are 1152 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: dying for it, right. They need togetherness and progressiveness, and 1153 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 1: they're living in a state like those cities are all 1154 00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:28,400 Speaker 1: always like democratic and it's just the rest of the 1155 00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:34,640 Speaker 1: state that has issues. Anyway. Anyway, what's well? So? Our 1156 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: last question comes from Travis. Travis says, Dear Chelsea, I'm 1157 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,560 Speaker 1: a thirty seven year old guy who got many of 1158 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: the Gay Jean's designed decor, theater, et cetera, but not 1159 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,560 Speaker 1: the skincare Gauy jen. In short, I could give a 1160 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: shit about skincare. I use a moisturizer with SPF, but 1161 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,880 Speaker 1: do nothing else for my face beyond an occasional splash 1162 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: of water in the shower. My skin is pretty normal, 1163 00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:02,080 Speaker 1: nothing problematic except my behavior. I recently heard someone complimented 1164 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,320 Speaker 1: on his beautiful skin and thought how nice it would 1165 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 1: be to receive such praise One day do you have 1166 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: any products or regimens you'd recommend to stop my uncared 1167 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: for face from falling off or bursting into flames or 1168 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,720 Speaker 1: whatever else is eventually going to happen as I slide 1169 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,720 Speaker 1: into my forties. Travis, Well, I'm gonna let you go 1170 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:23,800 Speaker 1: to the skincare thing because you have I'm sure more 1171 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: tricks than I do. I was gonna say, don't you 1172 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: have like skincare? Like, aren't you like into it? Your 1173 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 1: skin is always glowing? Oh well, thank you. But I 1174 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,280 Speaker 1: would want to say to Travis, this is why you 1175 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:37,120 Speaker 1: have everything to look forward to. I didn't start washing 1176 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 1: my face. I still don't wash my face, let's be honest. 1177 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,800 Speaker 1: And I did my my sisters. I blame them and 1178 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 1: my mother for not teaching me how to wash my face. 1179 00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 1: I didn't wash my face until I was in my thirties, 1180 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 1: and then I and then I just couldn't get into 1181 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: the habit because I never had it. So if you 1182 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 1: start taking care of your skin now, Travis, you're going 1183 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 1: to see such a difference because you have so many 1184 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:03,000 Speaker 1: layers of like a dermist that you have not exfoliated. 1185 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,960 Speaker 1: So all you need is a good exfoliator to wash 1186 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,840 Speaker 1: yourself at night and then put on a moisturizer. I 1187 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,760 Speaker 1: use a serum and moisturizer in the morning and at night, 1188 00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: and that does the trick. I have to say. First 1189 00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: of all, just go go get a facial like you're 1190 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: gonna feel a difference from like when you before you 1191 00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: had it and then after. And then secondly, I am 1192 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:26,919 Speaker 1: such a fan of this new line called fig one. 1193 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,680 Speaker 1: I invested in it. I'm not a celebrity indorser. I 1194 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,320 Speaker 1: invested because it actually works. We should send you something. 1195 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: By the way, It's scientifically proven to work on so 1196 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: many different skin types whatever your quote issue is. And um, 1197 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,920 Speaker 1: you can take an online test for free. Their dermatologistettle 1198 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 1: send me the whole regiment. But like they play nice 1199 00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,120 Speaker 1: in the medicine cabinet, so whatever you're already using, you 1200 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 1: just add this into the mix. But it sounds like 1201 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:54,560 Speaker 1: he just needs like hyaluronic acid and maybe salonic acid. 1202 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: Good for everybody. I think it's not terrible for most people. 1203 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Oh I thought it was. I thought some people don't 1204 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,760 Speaker 1: react well to that, but I could be misinformed. I 1205 01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,560 Speaker 1: mean I use it twice a week, and Justin uses 1206 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 1: one once a week, so that's two completely different skin types. 1207 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 1: Justin's skin tone is like uneven and he wants it 1208 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,440 Speaker 1: to become more even. And then also being black on 1209 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,120 Speaker 1: top of it makes it harder to figure out what 1210 01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,280 Speaker 1: products are right for him, and he's been using fig one. 1211 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 1: So anyways, Travis, I don't know what your actual skin 1212 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 1: type is, but it just sounds like he just needs 1213 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: a little TLC. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Once you start a 1214 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: little bit, you're gonna notice, like if your skin is 1215 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,800 Speaker 1: okay now and you start taking care of it, it's 1216 01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna be good, and then you're gonna get that glowy, 1217 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 1: dewey feeling. And also, if if you have dry skin, 1218 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,960 Speaker 1: you can use a serum and a moisturizer. If you 1219 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: have oily skin, you shouldn't use a serum. You should 1220 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:46,560 Speaker 1: just use a moisturizer and then get the hyaluronic acid 1221 01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,960 Speaker 1: from Big One. Hello. But also like props for using 1222 01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:56,479 Speaker 1: the SPF. That's like the most important thing. Well, let's 1223 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,440 Speaker 1: take a quick break and we'll be back to wrap 1224 01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 1: up with Ashley and Chelsea, and we're back. Welcome back, girl. Well, Ashley, 1225 01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,880 Speaker 1: I wanted to ask if you have any advice you'd 1226 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:16,480 Speaker 1: like from Chelsea, Chelsea parenting, Do you want some parenting 1227 01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,760 Speaker 1: advice for me? Okay, So my biggest thing right now 1228 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,720 Speaker 1: staying motivated in the gym. It's hard because I'm breastfeeding 1229 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:25,280 Speaker 1: and I know you like to smoke weed, and like, 1230 01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure that doesn't get you motivated to go to 1231 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 1: the gym, So, like, what's that motivator for you? Because 1232 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 1: my crutch right now is breastfeeding? What just keeps you going? 1233 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:39,680 Speaker 1: Because your abs? I mean, oh you're so sweet. I mean, 1234 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,480 Speaker 1: I really do work out hard because I like to 1235 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,919 Speaker 1: be strong, and it's I I like to be fit 1236 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,960 Speaker 1: also and look lean, but I just love it's like addicting, 1237 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: you know. Now, even I'm on the road, I hit 1238 01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 1: the gym and I just do my own stuff with 1239 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: weights and stuff. And what I've realized so much about 1240 01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: after forty is that, like cardio is not the thing 1241 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 1: that keeps you lean. It's weights, heavy, heavy weights. And 1242 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: I think my motivation is just seeing the results, Like 1243 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: I know it works. I used to think weights, We're 1244 01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:11,560 Speaker 1: gonna make me bulky, even when I was heavier and 1245 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 1: not as muscular. I thought, oh, I'm just I have 1246 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: to lose the weight first, and then do the weights 1247 01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,800 Speaker 1: and it's like, no, I just started weight training and 1248 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 1: the fact kind of came off. So I know there's 1249 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people think you have to do so 1250 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,240 Speaker 1: much cardio, and it's like, don't kill yourself with cardio 1251 01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,560 Speaker 1: because it stresses your body out, especially when you're breastfeeding 1252 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 1: and you have like your cortisol levels. You want to 1253 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 1: keep them down not up, because that makes you hold 1254 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 1: onto your weight. And the other thing that I think 1255 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:40,400 Speaker 1: motivates me is I can do things that a lot 1256 01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,360 Speaker 1: of people that I know who work out a lot 1257 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 1: can't do. So when I keep getting stronger like that, 1258 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm just like, oh, I'm plus, I'm older, Like I'm 1259 01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:50,200 Speaker 1: the strongest I've ever been at forty seven I was, 1260 01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm stronger than I was when I was thirty five, 1261 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:54,560 Speaker 1: So like, you know, I can kick ass and I 1262 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,720 Speaker 1: fucking like that. You know, That's it's like a part 1263 01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,800 Speaker 1: of me now. The results, Like once you get yeah, 1264 01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, like you just feel like, yeah, it feels good. 1265 01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 1: Have you done plates? Are you into that? Yeah, I've 1266 01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 1: done a lot of pilates. Yeah, there's a class in 1267 01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,959 Speaker 1: l A that I love FORMA. Have you tried it yet? No, 1268 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: you'll have to go also into you Okay, yeah, yeah, 1269 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: but I guess that's my motivator. I just like I 1270 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 1: like to feel, yeah, the results, and I like to 1271 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: feel like a badass when I get in there and 1272 01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 1: I go, no matter what, it doesn't matter what shape 1273 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,520 Speaker 1: I'm in. That's how I was before babies, and I think, 1274 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 1: I think I'll get back there. But it's nice to 1275 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,520 Speaker 1: hear it again. Yeah. You know, once you start seeing results, 1276 01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:33,320 Speaker 1: like you're saying you're up forty pounds, I would not 1277 01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: have known that. But if you're you know, once you 1278 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 1: start getting closer to what you want, you're like, oh, 1279 01:03:40,240 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 1: then you get really on the train. But I mean 1280 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,919 Speaker 1: you have little babies, so it's a different situation right now. 1281 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,680 Speaker 1: Life is different. Yeah, So there you go. That's my 1282 01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 1: Those are my two cents and you can suck on 1283 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:56,680 Speaker 1: that pipe. Okay, Well, all of our callers and writers 1284 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: in please keep in touch with us because we love 1285 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,040 Speaker 1: follow ups. We love of progress reports and follow ups. 1286 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,120 Speaker 1: I didn't pay attention in school, so that's why I 1287 01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,960 Speaker 1: feel like I like a curriculum and a structure. Now 1288 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:11,000 Speaker 1: with this podcast, I like reportings after the fact, after 1289 01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 1: we've talked to you. I want to find out what happened. 1290 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: And we've had so many positive outcomes come out of this. 1291 01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,480 Speaker 1: It's just like we're freeing the whole world. Yeah, thank 1292 01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 1: you for Asty Braham. We love you so much. I 1293 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: love you, I adore you. I'm so glad we got 1294 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,640 Speaker 1: to see each other. Me too, Yeah, I love in person. 1295 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,760 Speaker 1: I know. I'm so thankful to see you too. Yeah, 1296 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,480 Speaker 1: come out to Jesse. I will. I definitely will. I'm 1297 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:37,000 Speaker 1: performing in Montclair next week. I have two shows in Montclair. 1298 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,640 Speaker 1: I'll be in Jersey. Fantastic. Bye bye. So if you'd 1299 01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,439 Speaker 1: like to ask Chelsea a question, email us at Dear 1300 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:47,320 Speaker 1: Chelsea Project at gmail dot com.