WEBVTT - Chaos with Dolores Catania 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, I have somebody very close to me on

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast, Dolores. Welcome to Casual care.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm my g Yeah, I'm so proud of you. I

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<v Speaker 2>love this.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, and I just found out that you're on Teddy's

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<v Speaker 1>podcast as well.

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<v Speaker 2>As to tease. So it's just I'm a seat warmer.

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<v Speaker 2>Teddy is gonna come back and she's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>better than ever. So I'm just filling in and I

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<v Speaker 2>love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly am so happy to hear that you're doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that is your calling.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have never thought. So we're just like we recap,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, jaa, we recap like.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun because you're not You're not a gossiper, but

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<v Speaker 1>you like to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Loky Locy. So Paul hears me in

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<v Speaker 2>the background and he's like this, like I'm saying what

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<v Speaker 2>I say about Summer House. I'm waiting for one of

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<v Speaker 2>the boys to be mad at me.

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<v Speaker 1>You're into Summerhouse even, feel like I heard you talking

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<v Speaker 1>to my mom about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was talking to your mom Like I'm into

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<v Speaker 2>everything now because I can gossip about it, and people

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<v Speaker 2>are like, wow, you've got a voice, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's easy to not talk about my friends. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like these people are my friends. Yeah. And the stuff

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying about Atlanta, Oh my god. I hope I

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<v Speaker 2>don't see them many time soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait. I feel like now I kind of want to

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<v Speaker 1>get into Summerhouse really bad because I am obsessed with Page.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a lot of people are obsessed with Page. But

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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you, I have a heart for Sierra.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Sierra is in the no one's in the GA category, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>but I love her like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm interested because I want to get to

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<v Speaker 1>know the cast. A lot of people love Sierra. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen Amanda at a couple events as Sweetheart. She's a sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 1>The girls on that show are animals to the guys.

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<v Speaker 1>And you would listen, let me tell you something, ja it.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to watch it, and I want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>what you have to say about it, because I would wonder,

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<v Speaker 1>because you and I are cut from the same cloth.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if you would get mad about the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I get mad about, and I think you would, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like I would get mad about a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff with like defending Amanda, just clips that

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<v Speaker 1>I've literally seen on my TikTok, like getting mad.

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<v Speaker 2>For her, you mean with with her with Kyle. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel sorry for him. She is going she is

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<v Speaker 2>going to hurt him one day. No, these girls are

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<v Speaker 2>coming into themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's Page and Craig in the beginning, she I

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<v Speaker 2>heard he wasn't that nice to her? Okay, interesting, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when the tables turn as we say yeah, she

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<v Speaker 2>literally flips the I'm gonna use references to my best friend.

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<v Speaker 2>She flips the table on him and then jumps on

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<v Speaker 2>the table and jomps on.

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<v Speaker 1>It because now she's standing on her own. She's fully

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<v Speaker 1>confident in her her own way, and I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>standing on her own.

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<v Speaker 2>And he eats shit, Like I could tell by the

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<v Speaker 2>first phone call of this season when she's talking to

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<v Speaker 2>him and she's like, yeah, my schedule's full. I won't

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<v Speaker 2>be making it anytime soon to see you, just saying

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<v Speaker 2>He's like huh and and she's like yeah, no. There's

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<v Speaker 2>like a dot on every day of her calendar.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you can tell because even in interviews he goes

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<v Speaker 1>or I think it was on his reunion he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not the page that I met. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not because she's confident now, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>That she grew out of you. She grew out of you,

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<v Speaker 2>and and it's gonna hurt. And I like they had

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<v Speaker 2>and then like when you're hurting a guy, sometimes you

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<v Speaker 2>feel bad, even if they deserve it. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. She is taking no prisoners. No, she has

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<v Speaker 2>no she's actually mad at him that he's even asking

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<v Speaker 2>for something that he would normally are Like sometimes when

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<v Speaker 2>I see like the guys going to kiss the girls

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<v Speaker 2>and they're yawning in the morning because they don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to kiss them back, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, oh, I feel like it's so also obvious with women,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're done, you're done. Oh men, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they'll kind of just break your heart, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>they're done or cheat on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Do this, do that, they're sorry? Yes, women will hang on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when we're done, we're done.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's totally done. But she's not only done. She

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<v Speaker 2>is eviscerating him through it all. And like he's a

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<v Speaker 2>little it was a little bitter, But did you see

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<v Speaker 2>he's got this girl?

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<v Speaker 1>Well I heard that he's dating.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting such a rush I never got to know

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<v Speaker 2>before I'm gonna wind up getting in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>You do not well, this is fun because everyone's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like, well, Dolores has clearly been gatekeeping.

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<v Speaker 2>This old time.

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<v Speaker 1>No, she always she wanted to be the middleman on

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<v Speaker 1>Jersey have.

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<v Speaker 2>Broken the seal because you've always heard me talk like

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<v Speaker 2>without being guarded. Of course, there was such a consequence

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<v Speaker 2>for saying certain things on our show because they never

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<v Speaker 2>got you know what I mean, Like people just like

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<v Speaker 2>take it. So like I'm watching the other shows now

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<v Speaker 2>and they kind of make up right away and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't go so low because they make up right away,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't go piled on and piled on and piled on.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, whatever, But so yeah, Summer House. But here's

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing I have to ask you, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna just maybe not be good, So let me

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<v Speaker 2>ask you. Jesse Solomon is a dog got he's got

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<v Speaker 2>a little girlfriend, h Lexi. She was a model. She

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<v Speaker 2>went out with like the likes of Brooklyn Beckham. Lexie

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<v Speaker 2>would she went out if she's she's got a roster? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so now she's like likes Jesse or whatever. And he's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm not sure if I want to be that committed,

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<v Speaker 2>but I want. I want you to like we're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to have sex like every day, Like I even hate

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<v Speaker 2>to say that word. It's like, yeah, okay, okay, so there,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's like, listen, unless you're going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>a committed relationship with me, No, we're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want and she has every right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and so the weekend that she's not there.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even is Jesse like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Cue I don't even know. So bad, so bad, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so bad.

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<v Speaker 1>And now that I'm like entering the world too, like

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<v Speaker 1>I need to, like, you know who.

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<v Speaker 2>These people are? Okay, so he's he's not bad looking,

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<v Speaker 2>he's cute. He's cute, but he wouldn't be your type. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so he's not walking around in a wife beater with like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, nice hair, and you know he's he's Jesse Solomon.

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<v Speaker 1>Is he like Irish? I love you?

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<v Speaker 2>He's Jewish.

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<v Speaker 1>He's Jewish.

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<v Speaker 2>That's okay, don't leave. Don't cut that out, guys, do

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<v Speaker 2>not cut that out.

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<v Speaker 1>He's actually irishman, he doesn't have red hair. No, why

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<v Speaker 1>do I like Jesse Solomon. I'm picturing like a red Ginger.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's not a red Ginger. He's got big smile,

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<v Speaker 2>he's dark, he's tall. You wouldn't like him though, he

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<v Speaker 2>would not be in type. He doesn't look Italian at all. Perfect.

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<v Speaker 2>So so like he's kind of like flirting really heavily

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<v Speaker 2>with Sierra, And this is what I'm getting to because

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much other stuff going on, but he's like

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<v Speaker 2>starting to tell her he likes her, and Sierra liked

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<v Speaker 2>him last year wound up hooking up with West, who

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<v Speaker 2>was her friend, and then West kind of like out

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<v Speaker 2>of like said I just didn't like her on like

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<v Speaker 2>all these like platforms, and it really hurt her. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So now Jesse's coming and swooping into like be the

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<v Speaker 2>wounded bird and kind of like get Sierra and kind

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<v Speaker 2>of vulnerable. Yeah, okay, so I have a problem with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I do too, But what I have a bigger problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Is because he got her when she's weak.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, But I have a bigger problem with her

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<v Speaker 2>friend's encouraging it. Page and and and Amanda or like

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<v Speaker 2>did you see them they're talking? Did you see they're close?

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<v Speaker 1>I would have grabbed they wanted her to like get

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<v Speaker 1>over us by doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, she's over him. She she told him off at

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<v Speaker 2>the table and she said, you're a loser. Just want

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<v Speaker 2>to get this off my chest. And now they've had

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<v Speaker 2>a talk, she's over him. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So then yeah, you're like, I don't stand for this either,

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<v Speaker 1>So I wouldn't stand for.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are your friends like like so she had her

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<v Speaker 2>leg on his lap. Okay, she might be a little book,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll say, maybe she's a little she'll get mad at this.

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<v Speaker 2>She might be a little bit vulnerable at the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And why did Page say, oh, kiss her feet or

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<v Speaker 2>lick her toes? Like I would be like if I

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<v Speaker 2>was Paige, I'd be like, hey, Jesse, sit on the

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<v Speaker 2>other couch, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like let her let her be for a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe when she's really.

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<v Speaker 2>How about let her be for good, Like I want

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<v Speaker 2>her to be out of like some bring your own

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<v Speaker 2>person in that house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, that's how I feel about that, And I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's the kind of friend you would be. I

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<v Speaker 2>would so right now, I love the girls, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>upset with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, got it. I need to really catch up.

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<v Speaker 2>Just watch last episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I feel like I really want to like get

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<v Speaker 1>invested though, But it's been somewhere else, has been on

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<v Speaker 1>for so long. Isn't this their ninth season.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised you've never been to one of their parties

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<v Speaker 2>in the Hamptons, like they have these theme parties.

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<v Speaker 1>Never been to the Hampton's. What I want to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the hampton so bad. All I've known my whole

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<v Speaker 1>life is the Jersey Shore. Do you know how bad

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dying to go to the Hampton's, Like, someone invite

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<v Speaker 1>me to the Hampton's.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, you don't need an invite, you just go. I well, yeah, see,

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<v Speaker 2>had I known that you and I would have would

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<v Speaker 2>have had a different conversation. I've never been because I

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<v Speaker 2>always say to the girls, like the young pretty girls,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, get your hosted a Hampton. Yeah I've never been. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's a fun time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you and my mom were just there last summer, right,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah Jill Zaren Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we were at Jill Zarren's party. Listen, we missed

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<v Speaker 2>the boat. For what I'm telling you to do, like

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<v Speaker 2>go and have a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Like go to Surflage, Hey, go with your girlfriends and

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<v Speaker 1>have a g I want to do a weekend. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to stay at that hotel too, which is apparently

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<v Speaker 1>super nice.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Starts with maybe I'm lying.

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<v Speaker 2>There's journey, but there's one on the beach.

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<v Speaker 1>Just call maybe the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. So yeah, ja, yeah, I know you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted you. We've all waited for a very long Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But we've always been embedded at the shore. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you can't say different either. I know, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know better you too, I know you didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have me telling you to get out of here break.

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<v Speaker 1>A we I know, speaking of you and my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys have been friends since you were teenagers? Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>how was that growing up in Patterson, going down to

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<v Speaker 1>the Jersey Shore? Just growing up in that old school mentality?

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<v Speaker 2>It's what it's everything growing up in Patterson, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a rough place like to grow up and but.

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<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't I feel like as bad then.

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<v Speaker 2>It was tough, tough. We were raised very tough. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's what everything that defines us. This show

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<v Speaker 2>does not define us, the marriage, like whatever we've been

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<v Speaker 2>through in our lives, what I think defines us the most.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything kind of defines you that you go through. But

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<v Speaker 2>what defines us the most is the way we were

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<v Speaker 2>raised and how we had to grow up. And nothing

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<v Speaker 2>was easy.

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<v Speaker 1>So even growing up, I feel like you both saw

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<v Speaker 1>a lot as well, went through a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw a lot and went through a lot. We

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<v Speaker 2>saw a lot of heartache around even the people around

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<v Speaker 2>us hard times, you know. I mean I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>go on a plane until I was twenty two on

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<v Speaker 2>a vacation, and we just worked very hard for everything.

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<v Speaker 2>So and it was a very diverse neighborhood. We knew

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<v Speaker 2>people from all over the world. Everybody was first generation.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't, but there was still that mentality and all

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<v Speaker 2>those your prints a fund you was everybody. Nobody's parents

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<v Speaker 2>spoke English, and everybody had to do their parents' mortgages

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<v Speaker 2>and banking and paperwork and speak for them and get

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<v Speaker 2>through school without parents that spoke English. You know, it

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<v Speaker 2>was not ever easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I wish they implemented the language to me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one thing I wish that I was fluent in.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, but you can be.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I could get by, but I wish they

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<v Speaker 1>like because you know, Nana and Nona would always speak

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Did your parents speak Italian.

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<v Speaker 2>No, my grandparents day okay, but back then they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>like pushing the language like you know, it was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of was frowned upon.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, okay, yeah, everyone was trying to learn English.

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<v Speaker 2>So they didn't want to speak Italian. They wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>learn English. Got it. Okay, very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So then obviously you know you're dynamic with my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys were very close in all of your twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>When did your relationship start?

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<v Speaker 2>So it really started. So we knew each other, like

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<v Speaker 2>from the neighborhood I grew up. I went to school seven.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that area, yes, yeah, by Jilts. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>have all there, so you always knew everybody. But when

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<v Speaker 2>your mom went to different school than I did. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when you're young and you're not driving, you

0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:14.920
<v Speaker 2>don't meet your friends yet from different schools because a

0:14:14.960 --> 0:14:18.080
<v Speaker 2>block of white is far. You don't go to another

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<v Speaker 2>town to meet friends. You go wherever you could.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk to, like a block away.

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<v Speaker 2>So because your mom and I, so we knew of

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<v Speaker 2>each other. All the Italian girls knew. There was the

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<v Speaker 2>roma dances where everybody would get dressed up and go

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<v Speaker 2>and try to meet their first boyfriends. To get married to.

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<v Speaker 2>And that so funny, right. So, but so your mom

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<v Speaker 2>we really got close when she started hanging around my

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<v Speaker 2>cousin Tanya. Okay, And so I got married. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know if I know this. Yes, So I got

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<v Speaker 2>married early. Your mom had a shorehouse, and your mom

0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:58.360
<v Speaker 2>had a group of girls and then my I think

0:14:58.360 --> 0:14:59.920
<v Speaker 2>her and my cousin got in an argument one of

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<v Speaker 2>the girls. So they came to my shorehouse and at

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<v Speaker 2>this point, I'm pregnant. For gab, no what. I was

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<v Speaker 2>the first one of the group to get married and

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<v Speaker 2>have so I didn't get to do twenty four. But

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<v Speaker 2>I was dating and working three jobs. By the time

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<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen. I was dating Frank. So your mom

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<v Speaker 2>comes to the shorehouse because they were all fighting. You

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<v Speaker 2>know how that happens in shorehouses, of course. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>your mom and my cousin, and here they come with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Your mother had a pair of daisy dukes on and

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<v Speaker 2>here I am feeling like terrible because I'm like nine

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<v Speaker 2>months pregnant and they were getting ready to go to temptations.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>She talks about that place all the time like it

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<v Speaker 1>was God's basement.

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<v Speaker 2>It was God's basement and the surf club.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, surf club, forget it.

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<v Speaker 2>And everyone was crazy for your mother because she had

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<v Speaker 2>the nicest eyes. I remember we were out one night

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<v Speaker 2>and some guys said that she looked like a cat,

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<v Speaker 2>but she was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thanks, really nice compliment.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so cute. So always your mom was always innocent

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<v Speaker 2>until you pissed her off.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course, I feel like that's me too.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're not, but you're you're a lot like

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<v Speaker 2>sharper than both me and your mom put together.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's funny. My mom says that Malania is her

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<v Speaker 1>to a t, and she's like, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>this is a good thing or about I.

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<v Speaker 2>Always would tell your mom, Milania's your boy. Oh, because

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<v Speaker 2>your mom wanted a boy.

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<v Speaker 1>One hundred percent and my dad got it too.

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<v Speaker 2>I was actually Paul sent me a TikTok of Milania

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<v Speaker 2>on your way on the way here of about her

0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.240
<v Speaker 2>talking about her nose hairs, like she said the most

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<v Speaker 2>she did not, which was little Oh she was in

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<v Speaker 2>the car, in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I saw that one too, not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Her tiktoks like of like when she was little, are

0:16:53.760 --> 0:16:58.320
<v Speaker 1>popping up everywhere. She really said the craziest she did.

0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:02.680
<v Speaker 2>She's an old soul, that's that normal kid thing to say.

0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:05.760
<v Speaker 2>And she was smart and on point with everything she was.

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<v Speaker 1>She drove your father crazy, crazy, crazy, no nuts. I

0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.760
<v Speaker 1>think she still drives us nuts though. That's the best part.

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<v Speaker 1>But because you guys grew up together when you were younger,

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<v Speaker 1>when the show approached the women at the Ladybug Foundation,

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<v Speaker 1>why were you never a part of that going into

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<v Speaker 1>first season?

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<v Speaker 2>So I was, and it wasn't. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>more everybody who's getting their hair done, Me, your mom

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole group of girls used to get our

0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.880
<v Speaker 2>hair done to go out on Thursdays. Okay, and what

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<v Speaker 2>did we know? We're Italian girls. We don't know. We

0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:42.679
<v Speaker 2>didn't go to college, We don't know how to party.

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<v Speaker 2>We just want to be able to wear our Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>choos and dress like sex in the city and go

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<v Speaker 2>get an apple martini that we couldn't even drink because

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't like it. Or we would go to what's

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<v Speaker 2>the other place across from Tao. Okay, she's not catch

0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:58.400
<v Speaker 2>it's like a Buddhakan.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, yeah, yeah yeah, go.

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<v Speaker 2>To like Budacan or just walk around the meatpacking district

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<v Speaker 2>thinking we were cool and be home by like twelve, Okay,

0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:12.000
<v Speaker 2>that was our girls' nights out, and so yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I they approached. They went to a place I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was this hair sline. They were like, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know a group of girls that like, yes, yeah, COG

0:18:22.240 --> 0:18:24.280
<v Speaker 2>told you, no, group of girls that they hang out

0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:27.680
<v Speaker 2>and have fun, and they were like, yeah, we actually do.

0:18:28.440 --> 0:18:31.320
<v Speaker 2>So then it started and then you'll find me in

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<v Speaker 2>the first confessional. I was really skinny at the time.

0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:39.520
<v Speaker 2>I looked like you look the same, disgusting, and they said,

0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:43.960
<v Speaker 2>you're gorgeous. Tell me about everyone's husband. So I explained,

0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:47.639
<v Speaker 2>like Jacqueline and Chris and your mom and dad and

0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:50.960
<v Speaker 2>all nice. I didn't, of course listen. We were not

0:18:51.160 --> 0:18:53.720
<v Speaker 2>used to people turning on each other. Yet, we weren't

0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:58.600
<v Speaker 2>used to producers tricks were We were green, We were still.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't know this world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my mom says it all the time. No one

0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:03.520
<v Speaker 1>knew what they were getting themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>No one knew what they were getting themselves into. And

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<v Speaker 2>then the producer and I still remember his name, went

0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:14.119
<v Speaker 2>and twisted my words and said I said something offbeat

0:19:14.200 --> 0:19:16.160
<v Speaker 2>about one of them, and I got a call from

0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:18.159
<v Speaker 2>one of my friends saying, did you say this? And

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<v Speaker 2>I was so offended that somebody would think that I

0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:25.600
<v Speaker 2>would dare say something about them. Now, I'd be like, ah, whatever,

0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.120
<v Speaker 2>maybe I did. I don't know. Yeah, But back then

0:19:28.320 --> 0:19:30.359
<v Speaker 2>we were not through all this. We were still like

0:19:30.520 --> 0:19:33.920
<v Speaker 2>you remembered everything you did. You remembered everything you did,

0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:37.320
<v Speaker 2>and we were so principled and nothing was diluted, and

0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:41.159
<v Speaker 2>you didn't fight the way that this fight started, and

0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:44.080
<v Speaker 2>you were friends for life. We still me and your

0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:47.840
<v Speaker 2>mom still have friends from like grammar school now friends

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<v Speaker 2>in this world. They kind of come and go, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you say one wrong thing and it's detrimental and

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<v Speaker 1>ends up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the show is like a little bit like

0:19:56.520 --> 0:19:59.359
<v Speaker 2>it could be toxic and like sure, but we didn't

0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:02.520
<v Speaker 2>come from that. So I was like, how fuck you,

0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:04.640
<v Speaker 2>and don't come back by my house and I'm not

0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.880
<v Speaker 2>doing this again. So that's what turned you away, That's

0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.359
<v Speaker 2>what turns me away. And then I of course that

0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.359
<v Speaker 2>your mom calls me, She's like, I just got please

0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.600
<v Speaker 2>come back. There's this girl Danielle that's on the show

0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:20.280
<v Speaker 2>now and and she's just kind of not fitting in

0:20:20.760 --> 0:20:23.760
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, but no, I don't like what they

0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:25.720
<v Speaker 2>did to me. Yeah, by now I would have got

0:20:25.760 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 2>over it. Yeah, I would have gotten over it. I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have even thought twice about it.

0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.119
<v Speaker 1>But it's that, it's how you guys were, and still

0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:35.439
<v Speaker 1>comes out now a little bit too. And you know,

0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.840
<v Speaker 1>my mom will hold something if it really sticks with you,

0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.639
<v Speaker 1>my mom will hold onto it. And now she's trying

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:45.359
<v Speaker 1>to like let things go, and she does. But of course,

0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:49.960
<v Speaker 1>like even I'm sure back then you when something stuck

0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:50.800
<v Speaker 1>with you, guys, it.

0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:54.720
<v Speaker 2>Stuck, It stuck gea and it was not diluted then. Yeah,

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:57.440
<v Speaker 2>so the things that happened back then you still hold

0:20:57.480 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 2>a grudge till this day. But things that happen now

0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:01.000
<v Speaker 2>you go a lot easier.

0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:01.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:05.080
<v Speaker 2>So I was like, no, don't ask me, don't come back,

0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:11.560
<v Speaker 2>and and it was like then, I you know, Danielle

0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:11.840
<v Speaker 2>came on.

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<v Speaker 1>How was it watching that from the sideline?

0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:18.159
<v Speaker 2>I didn't watch it. I figured not for a reason.

0:21:18.640 --> 0:21:21.399
<v Speaker 2>I just didn't watch TV back then. Yeah, it wasn't

0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:25.720
<v Speaker 2>like something I would get into or I watched What

0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:29.119
<v Speaker 2>did I watch back then? I watched Ali mcbeil. That

0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:32.119
<v Speaker 2>was about it. I didn't even know, yeah, you wouldn't know,

0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:37.439
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, I really didn't watch TV and I didn't know,

0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.359
<v Speaker 2>but I had heard what I had seen what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on. Sisters weren't talking, your mom was going through stuff,

0:21:43.200 --> 0:21:45.119
<v Speaker 2>and by now they started to catch on to what

0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 2>the producers were doing. And but it was late and

0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:51.080
<v Speaker 2>then I was like, okay, I'm ready to come back on.

0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.160
<v Speaker 2>They were like, yeah, no, we have these twins now

0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:56.639
<v Speaker 2>and that was afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So then when that because that was probably the

0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.439
<v Speaker 1>worst season in Real House. I was in New Jersey

0:22:02.520 --> 0:22:05.040
<v Speaker 1>history when the Twins.

0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:08.440
<v Speaker 2>And they lost a million views. Amber, yeah, it was

0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.000
<v Speaker 2>they lost a million views.

0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:13.399
<v Speaker 1>It was a lot, so detrimental obviously to even Jersey

0:22:13.600 --> 0:22:18.119
<v Speaker 1>staying on the network was did they come to you

0:22:18.200 --> 0:22:19.120
<v Speaker 1>after that season?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I tried to go. Remember when we went to

0:22:21.880 --> 0:22:26.160
<v Speaker 2>your grandparents' house for the we went to the Cats

0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:27.520
<v Speaker 2>skills and we had a weekend there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it was so much fun.

0:22:29.200 --> 0:22:31.200
<v Speaker 2>It was so much fun. And they were like, okay,

0:22:31.760 --> 0:22:33.600
<v Speaker 2>try out, you can come. And then they were going

0:22:33.640 --> 0:22:36.720
<v Speaker 2>to the Dominican Republic. Every So Mom would like kind

0:22:36.720 --> 0:22:40.280
<v Speaker 2>of like your mom, would you always your mom? She

0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:41.880
<v Speaker 2>would be like, come, what are you doing?

0:22:42.440 --> 0:22:44.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, at the time, Jacqueline, you were still.

0:22:44.040 --> 0:22:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Jacqueline and Caroline. They were like, yes, what are you doing.

0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:50.680
<v Speaker 2>So they're like she, They're like, come on, just try it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I went and I would show up.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember those were the fun days though. Those were the

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<v Speaker 1>best days.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember those every ounce of that weekend. We had

0:23:01.720 --> 0:23:05.119
<v Speaker 2>such a good time. And I would show up for

0:23:05.200 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 2>things like the the relay race of Tackle.

0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 1>You were there too. I was, oh, my god, duh,

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that's when I had my tantrum. Yes, oh I hate cheaters, guys.

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:20.120
<v Speaker 2>She does. She's very competitive. She does not like cheaters

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:26.200
<v Speaker 2>till this day. You don't know, but Frankie was kind

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:26.800
<v Speaker 2>of laughing.

0:23:27.240 --> 0:23:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Frankie literally was like, wea. I feel so bad because

0:23:31.400 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>we were so close when we.

0:23:32.720 --> 0:23:33.959
<v Speaker 2>Were younger, so close.

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:36.800
<v Speaker 1>That's when you and my mom would like fantasize like

0:23:36.840 --> 0:23:37.600
<v Speaker 1>oh these two.

0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh my heart, my heart so yeah, so like and

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:44.679
<v Speaker 2>then finally I said to them, I'm not showing up

0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 2>to these At that day, I said, I'm not showing

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.240
<v Speaker 2>up anymore unless you're gonna unless I'm getting paid getting paid.

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.800
<v Speaker 2>This is at least paid for my makeup like something.

0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:56.120
<v Speaker 2>And they were like, yeah, no, so then I stopped,

0:23:57.280 --> 0:23:59.679
<v Speaker 2>and then then I was like, all right, let me

0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.440
<v Speaker 2>really try this. And they were like, okay, come and

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:04.560
<v Speaker 2>bring it. Bring it this weekend and we had a

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:08.439
<v Speaker 2>great time. Your dad was actually twerking like and he

0:24:08.560 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 2>was doing John Claude vandam He wasn't turkey, he was

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:11.640
<v Speaker 2>doing like splits.

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:14.440
<v Speaker 1>God, that's his signature, drunk move.

0:24:14.440 --> 0:24:18.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, his signature. Your grandparents cooked all weekend and then

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 2>cried when we left. Oh so your grandfather cried. Your

0:24:23.480 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 2>mother goes, watch this, we're leaving. And if I had

0:24:25.640 --> 0:24:27.480
<v Speaker 2>company like that, it would be like, get go out

0:24:27.520 --> 0:24:30.240
<v Speaker 2>of my house. They cooked for us, They gave us

0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:34.359
<v Speaker 2>their beds, they went up, and that is the Italian way.

0:24:34.600 --> 0:24:36.480
<v Speaker 1>You give the shirt off your you give the shirt

0:24:36.560 --> 0:24:37.120
<v Speaker 1>off your back.

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:40.119
<v Speaker 2>And they treated us like and I would be like,

0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:43.240
<v Speaker 2>oh God, are these people ever leaving? They were cooking,

0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:47.960
<v Speaker 2>but that was sag they had. Your grandmother was wait

0:24:48.119 --> 0:24:49.880
<v Speaker 2>making the deep fried potatoes.

0:24:50.280 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 1>She loves, Oh and.

0:24:51.240 --> 0:24:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Do that pole she probably did. And this went on

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:56.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was the best food I ever had till

0:24:56.960 --> 0:25:00.600
<v Speaker 2>this day. And your grandfather cried, and we let my

0:25:00.680 --> 0:25:04.280
<v Speaker 2>dad's father, your dad's father, and he never ever cried.

0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 2>He only cried when you would leave. Yeah, even if

0:25:07.640 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 2>he was seen you the next day, they never wanted

0:25:10.240 --> 0:25:13.400
<v Speaker 2>you to leave their house. Yeah. And then they told

0:25:13.440 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 2>me now again, they told me like no, now, Like

0:25:16.240 --> 0:25:18.119
<v Speaker 2>I could have been on in the beginning, but I

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:19.960
<v Speaker 2>think they were going to use me as a sacrificial

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.919
<v Speaker 2>lamb because I was the single girl on the show. Okay,

0:25:24.000 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 2>so thank god I didn't go timing as everything. Yeah,

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.360
<v Speaker 2>and in between that time a lot, I had been

0:25:29.400 --> 0:25:31.760
<v Speaker 2>through a lot in my life, a lot of.

0:25:32.040 --> 0:25:35.440
<v Speaker 1>But you also could have helped so many people, which

0:25:35.800 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 1>I think, but I think at that time it was

0:25:40.080 --> 0:25:44.879
<v Speaker 1>everyone stays together, no one really gets divorced, and you

0:25:45.000 --> 0:25:47.359
<v Speaker 1>were the first to kind of come onto the show

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and be like I've been through all this, right, and

0:25:50.400 --> 0:25:53.639
<v Speaker 1>which would have been also. But I'm saying if they

0:25:53.640 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>would have let you on during that time, I feel

0:25:56.040 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>like you would have helped so many women come out

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and not be so afraid, because I feel like at

0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that time it was very frowned upon.

0:26:04.240 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 2>It was I didn't even tell the people in the kids'

0:26:06.280 --> 0:26:08.919
<v Speaker 2>schools that I was divorced because I was embarrassed. But

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:11.840
<v Speaker 2>I had been through so much in that time, Gea

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and I learned so much. I have so much more

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.520
<v Speaker 2>to give. By the time I broke up with somebody

0:26:16.520 --> 0:26:19.480
<v Speaker 2>I was dating at the time, and Jacqueline goes, try

0:26:19.520 --> 0:26:21.399
<v Speaker 2>to come on the show. Your mom was coming home.

0:26:22.600 --> 0:26:25.439
<v Speaker 1>And the first when they let you, that's when. It

0:26:25.440 --> 0:26:29.960
<v Speaker 1>was twenty sixteen. Okay, twenty sixteen, yes, okay, this is

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:30.920
<v Speaker 1>making sense now.

0:26:31.000 --> 0:26:33.480
<v Speaker 2>And the first time I filmed with your mom it

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>was my birthday. It was December twenty eighth, and she

0:26:37.119 --> 0:26:39.520
<v Speaker 2>was going food chopping. I was taking her food chopping,

0:26:39.560 --> 0:26:42.119
<v Speaker 2>and it was so natural to be with her. Yeah,

0:26:42.160 --> 0:26:43.880
<v Speaker 2>and it was so good. And me and your mom

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:46.159
<v Speaker 2>made a pack and said. Your mom said to me,

0:26:46.760 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 2>don't let this show come between us and our friendship,

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:50.600
<v Speaker 2>and I never did.

0:26:51.240 --> 0:26:55.560
<v Speaker 1>When was the hardest point between you and my mom's

0:26:55.600 --> 0:26:58.639
<v Speaker 1>friendship while being on this show.

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:04.080
<v Speaker 2>I think the past couple of years, I feel like

0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:07.359
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like I did really stand up for

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:11.800
<v Speaker 2>your mom and her relationship because I always said, let

0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:13.960
<v Speaker 2>them be. Teresa has been through a lot. She can

0:27:14.040 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 2>handle this. Look how he is with those kids. That's

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:18.760
<v Speaker 2>what I'm interested in things like this.

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:22.800
<v Speaker 1>And because I mean, I mean, poor Louis he can

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.760
<v Speaker 1>look left and they'll say something about him. And it's

0:27:25.800 --> 0:27:28.119
<v Speaker 1>not even just the people on the show at this point,

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:32.640
<v Speaker 1>now it's bloggers. And once that starts, it's very hard.

0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:34.879
<v Speaker 1>It's a vicious cycle. Vicious cycle.

0:27:35.119 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Once once that it's it's very easy to fall

0:27:39.240 --> 0:27:42.719
<v Speaker 2>from grace and it's very hard for to turn people's

0:27:42.720 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 2>opinion around once that starts, once that seed is planted.

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.919
<v Speaker 1>So and it's so horrible because he's really and like

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.600
<v Speaker 1>you said, he's so amazing to us and our family.

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 1>That's all that should matter. And I feel like Reesa

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:59.520
<v Speaker 1>can handle. That's the biggest point that we've always been

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 1>trying to to like prove to everybody. But at this

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>point it's also come to a point of exhaustion where

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:10.320
<v Speaker 1>it's like, say what you want. We're obviously happy behind

0:28:10.480 --> 0:28:13.600
<v Speaker 1>open end, closed doors, but I agree with you. I

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>feel like as much as it's my mom can handle herself,

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>and you know, he's very good to our family. I

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>feel like these past couple of years probably were the hardest.

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:25.679
<v Speaker 2>It were the hardest because your mom felt like people

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:29.239
<v Speaker 2>weren't doing enough, but there was only so much you

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 2>can do. And then your mom gets a lot of

0:28:31.800 --> 0:28:36.200
<v Speaker 2>background chatter she from people, and your mom doesn't always

0:28:36.280 --> 0:28:38.960
<v Speaker 2>listen to the right people. I think that it's been

0:28:39.040 --> 0:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>the past couple of years. Really. Yeah, I handled things

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>the way I felt was the right way. People see now,

0:28:45.760 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 2>I handled things the way they should have been handled.

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>I behind closed doors, I would say to everyone, you

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.280
<v Speaker 2>guys are going overboard. Things are getting out of control.

0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Why speak to a blogger, Why speak to an ex

0:28:57.160 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 2>off camera? You know why? Why?

0:29:00.160 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're investigating way too much? Yeah, and why

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:05.840
<v Speaker 1>do you care this much?

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So it was a lot of.

0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 1>It's not because you care for the person, it's because

0:29:10.160 --> 0:29:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you want to hurt the person.

0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:16.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, there's intention behind everything. So I've learned not to

0:29:16.080 --> 0:29:20.240
<v Speaker 2>get mad at somebody unless they're intent. It's the person's intention,

0:29:20.400 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 2>and that's where you see me get the most mad

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.600
<v Speaker 2>when I think someone's intention, not what they're saying, what

0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 2>their intention is behind it.

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because they knew there was nothing to attack my

0:29:31.640 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 1>mom with anymore, not for nothing. Okay, you can throw

0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 1>the jail card so many times. It's like we've been there,

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:41.080
<v Speaker 1>done that. That was like almost a decade ago. Yeah,

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>so now they were just trying to hurt the one

0:29:44.840 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 1>person that was closest to her that meant the most

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>to her besides her children, which was which is Louie.

0:29:51.440 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's why to dig that hard. You're not doing

0:29:55.040 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it to care for my mom. You're doing it to

0:29:57.000 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 1>really hurt her.

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, So if you want to say something and then

0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.479
<v Speaker 2>back off, friends always have to say something.

0:30:03.520 --> 0:30:05.600
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think it's so easy, like you

0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:09.520
<v Speaker 1>were saying on the other shows, because it's not that deep.

0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not that deep. I'm what I'm watching now, Like

0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.280
<v Speaker 2>they'll sit, they'll talk it out, and then they drop

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:19.000
<v Speaker 2>like they're kind of dropping it there. There's always something

0:30:19.000 --> 0:30:21.720
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna come up. Of course, when you drag out

0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 2>a storyline, it's a lot.

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, for sure.

0:30:25.800 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I would love for our show to

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 2>come back the way it was in Ireland. We had

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:35.520
<v Speaker 2>a great time in Ireland. That was a nice trip.

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:40.680
<v Speaker 1>There was I feel like there were openings there was.

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there was there was little holes that people could

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 2>have actually cohabitated if they stuck on that path. But

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 2>that didn't work.

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I know, like it's always just kind of falls back

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>into that toxic, vicious cycle. So if you could have

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.840
<v Speaker 1>your ideal cast back, because you obviously want Housewives to

0:31:01.880 --> 0:31:05.959
<v Speaker 1>come back. I think everybody does a little bit. New Jersey, Yeah,

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:06.920
<v Speaker 1>a little bit.

0:31:07.080 --> 0:31:10.560
<v Speaker 2>People miss it. People grew up with this. People like

0:31:11.760 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 2>they they're like, oh my god, I grew up watching

0:31:14.240 --> 0:31:16.800
<v Speaker 2>this with my mother. This is related. That's what I

0:31:16.840 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 2>get all the time.

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 1>Even now, it's the daughters coming up to me saying

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I used to watch this show. I watch this show

0:31:25.680 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 1>all the time with my mom and we're the same age.

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 1>But she's like, I relate to you so much, or

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 1>people that come up to me, or I love sympathizing

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.719
<v Speaker 1>with you and going through life with you. And I

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:42.760
<v Speaker 1>feel like fans really go through that, especially with you guys.

0:31:43.680 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 2>They do. They do. They look us at us like

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:50.880
<v Speaker 2>a mother, like an aunt, like a friend or somebody

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>who Yeah, everybody on our show has made mistakes in

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 2>their lives.

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:56.000
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.480
<v Speaker 2>I hope that young girls at least see it and

0:31:59.120 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 2>they may make the same, but at least they'll know

0:32:01.080 --> 0:32:02.720
<v Speaker 2>what they are when they're going through it, you know.

0:32:04.200 --> 0:32:08.440
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I would the truth. I would love to

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 2>see everybody come back. Yeah, I don't care what anybody says.

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:15.720
<v Speaker 1>It's a little deeper than that. You can't be mediocre.

0:32:16.120 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not. I've been mediocre, like I said, your mom,

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I said, Jen, Jen Jen. But I think the dynamic

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know the show without everybody in it.

0:32:26.000 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Like, yes, but there needs to I feel like there

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 1>also needs to be crazy change so that this toxicness

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>also doesn't come back, like there needs.

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:36.520
<v Speaker 2>To be there. But then they also try.

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I feel like they also tried to implement very forthstanding

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 1>rules do not do this, like, do not do that,

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>but they were still overseen and the toxic, like, the

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>toxicity still came through.

0:32:49.400 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>So I say, better the devil you know than the

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 2>devil you don't. Yeah, if I if I some other

0:32:55.360 --> 0:33:00.640
<v Speaker 2>girls come on who suck, hungry, thirsty, and I don't

0:33:00.680 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 2>know them, I don't know anything. I like knowing everything

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:08.480
<v Speaker 2>about the people that I'm fighting with. Yeah, that's true.

0:33:08.720 --> 0:33:11.720
<v Speaker 2>We like to have some background knowledge. Oh yeah, so

0:33:11.800 --> 0:33:14.360
<v Speaker 2>then what I gotta get to know somebody all over again?

0:33:14.480 --> 0:33:15.840
<v Speaker 2>I know what they're capable of.

0:33:16.080 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you want someone new though? Do you want to

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>see some of the fass?

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:22.480
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'd like to see on my friend

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:24.120
<v Speaker 2>Christina Pastina.

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and then my doolo, are you on hold? I

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 1>have to ask, what do you mean hold? Did Bravo

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>hold you?

0:33:32.080 --> 0:33:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh? They told me. I can't say.

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:37.520
<v Speaker 1>Exact I figured I just had to ask. Yeah, But

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I hope you are. I feel like I have a

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:44.600
<v Speaker 1>good feeling hopefully you are. But okay, I'm going to

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>ask you some real house has a new Jersey rapid

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>fire questions, and then we'll be done talking about Jersey

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 1>because it's boring. Nois who is the fakest in your opinion?

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 2>The fakeust? You know, I'm not answering these things, okay,

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:04.560
<v Speaker 2>And I think everybody on the show has to be

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 2>fake at some point to get along with someone they

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>don't like.

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so everyone.

0:34:09.600 --> 0:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Everyone, everyone's fake at one point or another in the world.

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>Who's on ozembek me.

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 2>I knew you were gonna say me Margaret, and I

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:25.839
<v Speaker 2>think jen Fest Yeah, Jen Aiden.

0:34:25.960 --> 0:34:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes, you're right. Yeah, everyone's basically admitted to it.

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:37.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at that point, I don't think anyone else no, same. Yeah, Okay,

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm on the highest dose and it doesn't work anymore.

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 1>You're so skinny you don't need anymore. But I know,

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 1>like I know, it's hard to get off. But I mean,

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm not getting look amazing, thank you, but I'm not

0:34:50.040 --> 0:34:50.920
<v Speaker 1>getting off ever.

0:34:52.400 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 2>So bad. It's good for you.

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Don't do it though, I mean, you were great before.

0:35:00.080 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 1>And who face tuned their Instagram?

0:35:04.400 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Everyone? Every single person. Me and Jen Fessler took a

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.959
<v Speaker 2>picture at a premiere last night without it, and she said,

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 2>if I ever find out that these pictures, they were

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 2>so horrible they couldn't even be face tuned, she will

0:35:17.760 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 2>never talk again unless you delete those pictures. I said,

0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 2>you don't have to tell me twice them.

0:35:22.400 --> 0:35:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which housewive from another franchise would fit best on Jersey.

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to see Chanelle I Am on Jersey.

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, she's a character.

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:38.800
<v Speaker 2>She is so funny and painfully honest.

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah she is, and I need that. Yeah, I agree,

0:35:43.400 --> 0:35:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I'd embrace that. I feel like some Miami girls might

0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:46.839
<v Speaker 1>be good too.

0:35:47.320 --> 0:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh I love Marisol and Alexia. Yeah.

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I a good energy.

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:54.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm curty. Yeah they're good.

0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah good because I feel like Miami and then I mean,

0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>Chanel I Am, but like my Emmy gives that same

0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:06.160
<v Speaker 1>type of energy. Yet nobody, Yeah, no one can meet Jersey.

0:36:06.760 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, it's true. No Atlanta give us a run.

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I actually said that to Riley because I mean

0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>it's been talked about in the press, but the new

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 1>Bravo show coming out that I'm on. Yeah, yeah, so

0:36:24.760 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 1>Riley Candy's daughter. I actually said to her once, I

0:36:28.080 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like Atlanta and Jersey give same energy. She got

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:33.360
<v Speaker 1>really offended by that.

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:36.640
<v Speaker 2>Really why, I don't know.

0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>She like looked at me and said, no, they're very different.

0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:45.480
<v Speaker 2>I said, Okay, doesn't look like that to me.

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.879
<v Speaker 1>I was very surprised, but she got very offended when

0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 1>I said that, that's not nice. It was kind of

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:55.240
<v Speaker 1>me also trying to bond over something.

0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:36:55.640 --> 0:36:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, both of our moms are are on Housewives.

0:36:58.800 --> 0:37:02.640
<v Speaker 2>We're on Housewives. Just trying to try to break the ice,

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:05.879
<v Speaker 2>break the ice a little. She didn't like it well

0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 2>right off the bat. Then you know that that's the

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.280
<v Speaker 2>pace of the relationship that you'll have with that person.

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very simple, which is pretty accurate. Yeah, with Frankie

0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:28.080
<v Speaker 1>getting engaged again, Frankie, congratulations, I texted him.

0:37:28.200 --> 0:37:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm so happy.

0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:33.440
<v Speaker 1>That was a beautiful engagement as well.

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 2>They did it at the Saint Patrick's Cathedral. Yes, I

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:40.000
<v Speaker 2>think my mom got married. Did she know or was

0:37:40.000 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 2>it the Newark the Newer Cathedral?

0:37:42.719 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, okay, gorgeous, so stunning, but you love her?

0:37:47.320 --> 0:37:52.279
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so nice. She's Portuguese, so they're like Italian and

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.279
<v Speaker 2>she's very family orientated, which I loved it. You know,

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 2>me and frank you are very close. Ge is so yeah.

0:37:58.400 --> 0:38:02.319
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we just got for our birthdays. I know, like,

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:02.960
<v Speaker 1>did you know?

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.279
<v Speaker 2>I didn't? Did I know that? I didn't know it

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 2>was gonna.

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess when we got lunch on my birthday,

0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 1>so January eighth.

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I didn't know then. I didn't know. He told me.

0:38:18.480 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh right, He's like, okay, mom, can you help me

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:23.240
<v Speaker 2>out with this because like I want to get engaged

0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:24.560
<v Speaker 2>next week or something.

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:26.799
<v Speaker 1>It was quick, It was quick. Yeah, And what was

0:38:26.840 --> 0:38:27.440
<v Speaker 1>your reaction?

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:29.480
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, I've been waiting for this. I

0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 2>had a feeling it was coming.

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, now that Frankie just got engaged, you're probably

0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:40.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna let him enjoy his engagement, have his wedding, and

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:44.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming Paulie and you are gonna let them have

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 1>their moment and whenever the time comes between you two,

0:38:47.160 --> 0:38:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it'll come.

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:49.879
<v Speaker 2>Whenever the time comes it'll come.

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:50.360
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:38:51.040 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 2>It's funny. I remember when I was divorced. Your mother

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 2>was very upset. She felt so bad for me. Do

0:38:58.480 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 2>you remember coming over the house when you little kids.

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:04.520
<v Speaker 1>And this was when Frankie had the spiked y.

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:09.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, your mom felt. Your mom loves being married. She

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:14.080
<v Speaker 2>loved being married, she likes being a wife.

0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why people push it so much on you,

0:39:16.480 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 1>because so many people are so comfortable just having a

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:20.839
<v Speaker 1>partner for the rest of their life.

0:39:20.880 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm happy with a partner. I don't like to date.

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't like like I'm not a like I would like.

0:39:27.280 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean partner, but you guys are basically married.

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:32.879
<v Speaker 2>I treat everything like a marriage. Like if I'm with someone,

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm with them for at least five years, like four years,

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 2>like I'm a I'm a girl, Like I don't know

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>how people go on like three dates in a week.

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 2>That would make me so nervous with three different people.

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 1>I would I feel like, oh my god, this is

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:47.799
<v Speaker 1>too loose for me.

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:54.239
<v Speaker 2>And I love that they do that. Yeah, but like

0:39:54.520 --> 0:39:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know how I would do that

0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:59.879
<v Speaker 2>because I'm like, not that I'm jealous, but I would

0:39:59.880 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 2>be like is this person screw me over?

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:03.919
<v Speaker 2>Is there another girl like? Well?

0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>You? It's kind of that like back of the head talk.

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 2>I've never dated like that.

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like regardless you and Paulie are both

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 1>loyal to each other. You see a long term future,

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:18.360
<v Speaker 1>but there's no rush.

0:40:18.400 --> 0:40:20.960
<v Speaker 2>There's no rush. I especially trusted somebody so.

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>Much, especially now your kids are getting married, your kids

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:28.840
<v Speaker 1>are dating. You're enjoying this moment. You're not really rushing.

0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Different kind of girl. I'm a different kind of girl,

0:40:32.120 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of people, like my mom's of course

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:37.680
<v Speaker 2>mad about it. My kids don't ask me at all,

0:40:38.320 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 2>is she Yeah? You know Frank got married. I saw

0:40:42.280 --> 0:40:43.359
<v Speaker 2>yeah that.

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I just never saw that in his yarsy future.

0:40:48.000 --> 0:40:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I know. I love Britt that like,

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:54.760
<v Speaker 1>she's such a sweetheart. I just like always seeing like Frank.

0:40:54.840 --> 0:40:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I kind of figured he would be like my dad

0:40:56.960 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 1>in a weird way.

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just enjoying life. He not met a young girl. Yeah,

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 2>if he had to keep she's thirty five. Okay, he's sixty.

0:41:08.520 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>I did not know.

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:13.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he's sixty. He turned sixty last year. She

0:41:13.360 --> 0:41:17.840
<v Speaker 2>agreed he died. She deserved that. Yeah, and I would

0:41:17.840 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 2>even shade him. She wanted that, she wanted that, and

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 2>she absolutely given that. Yes, And if I was a

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:28.359
<v Speaker 2>young girl, I don't. My mother used to say, oh,

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:30.479
<v Speaker 2>what are you wasting your youth? Don't let a guy

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:34.520
<v Speaker 2>string you along, because then you miss out on so

0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 2>much of your life. And then you have to start

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:38.799
<v Speaker 2>out because if a guy doesn't commit to you at

0:41:38.840 --> 0:41:42.520
<v Speaker 2>a young age, that's not like you need to build

0:41:42.520 --> 0:41:44.719
<v Speaker 2>your life. And if you want a family, if that's

0:41:44.760 --> 0:41:49.319
<v Speaker 2>what you want, and she definitely wanted that. I meet

0:41:49.400 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of girls, Jia, A lot of girls that

0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 2>say I was with some guy for like fourteen years

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:57.120
<v Speaker 2>and we never got married, and now it's too late

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 2>for me to have a family, and it breaks me.

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 2>I had to no, No, they have an understanding. She's

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 2>not They're not gonna have.

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:06.839
<v Speaker 1>Children, Okay, I mean yeah, because then by the time

0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:10.520
<v Speaker 1>the kid is twenty, Frank would think. Ye, that's where

0:42:10.560 --> 0:42:14.399
<v Speaker 1>I think. It's so crazy sometimes for when men have

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:20.279
<v Speaker 1>kids so late. I know, I don't understand it. I know, well,

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:21.520
<v Speaker 1>thank god they understand.

0:42:21.600 --> 0:42:24.280
<v Speaker 2>They came to that. I can't. I feel like Gobby

0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 2>would have a stroke, debt, everyone would be dead I

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:29.680
<v Speaker 2>would be dead and have nothing to do with it.

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Anybody in the vicinity. Gabby's spitfire, spit fire, especially when

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:36.640
<v Speaker 2>it comes to fread.

0:42:38.800 --> 0:42:39.919
<v Speaker 1>She's head some care.

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.680
<v Speaker 2>No, we need another go out again. No, I'm so faddy.

0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>My mom literally keeps asking me when's Gabby's birthday? When's

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Gabby's birthday? I'm like, not yet.

0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 2>She's so cute.

0:42:50.640 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 1>She's like, we need to all go out together.

0:42:52.280 --> 0:42:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:42:52.880 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you were one of the winners last seasons

0:42:56.960 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 1>on Traders. Gradually that was the best experience of my life.

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:01.000
<v Speaker 2>Was it?

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 1>You know who I just thought about and who could

0:43:04.200 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 1>do it? My dad because it's in Scotland.

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

0:43:10.520 --> 0:43:15.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, so good he could actually do this

0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 1>and not some like production of like this person going

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 1>out there.

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Like it's very different producing their Yeah, so it was.

0:43:25.040 --> 0:43:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was definitely. They have a wellness team,

0:43:27.880 --> 0:43:30.920
<v Speaker 2>so it was a hard mental experience, it was. But

0:43:31.280 --> 0:43:35.359
<v Speaker 2>like they're not they are not looking for drama. Like

0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 2>they cut out some things that people would say that

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:42.759
<v Speaker 2>probably wouldn't have have made them look great. Okay, things air,

0:43:43.000 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 2>you know, like what like Danielle sworn her kids on

0:43:45.840 --> 0:43:48.640
<v Speaker 2>camera and they said, no, we don't like that. Okay,

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:49.359
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Yes, so they're cut from a different cloth.

0:43:51.840 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 2>So nice they it's not about the drama. It's about

0:43:55.600 --> 0:43:56.840
<v Speaker 2>the game and the strategy.

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 1>And I just wonder if, like your mom says, freshure

0:44:00.520 --> 0:44:05.080
<v Speaker 1>breath there, do you think you would understand the game.

0:44:05.239 --> 0:44:08.279
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the game is really difficult something it's.

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:11.640
<v Speaker 2>Difficult to understand if you didn't watch Big Brother or

0:44:11.680 --> 0:44:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Survivor did your dad watch that stuff? I feel like

0:44:14.600 --> 0:44:15.160
<v Speaker 2>he doesn't.

0:44:15.239 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't watch this is the Discovery Channel.

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, you know what though, your dad, your dad,

0:44:23.480 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 2>me going there not knowing the game helped me win, Okay,

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 2>because I wasn't strategic in trying to really find the traders.

0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I was just trying to survive.

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So, because I was telling him how it was

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:41.359
<v Speaker 1>a very like isolating situation and everything like that, and

0:44:41.480 --> 0:44:44.600
<v Speaker 1>he was like, I'd be fine. I was in prison.

0:44:45.160 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>He has to get it. He has to has to

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.560
<v Speaker 2>get on that show. They already picked the cast for

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 2>this year. Yes, I know, but there's gonna be one

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:55.760
<v Speaker 2>in Ireland. I don't know if they just pick Irish people.

0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.720
<v Speaker 2>But I just saw there's a castle that they picked

0:44:58.719 --> 0:45:01.839
<v Speaker 2>for the Irish traders. There's the UK traders.

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh so it's everywhere Australia. Okay, this could be something fun.

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:11.400
<v Speaker 1>I just kind of thought about that.

0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:13.399
<v Speaker 2>Ge yet you know how to do these things? Get

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:14.120
<v Speaker 2>your dad on there.

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:17.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well traders casting, listen to.

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Me, Studio Lambert if you want to show if you

0:45:20.719 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>think Tom Sandoval was funny, Joe Judae is hysterical. You

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.640
<v Speaker 2>don't even know. You don't know what you're missing, you

0:45:30.680 --> 0:45:35.560
<v Speaker 2>don't know. You know, who's really nice? Sam Ashgari Britney Spears' ex.

0:45:35.800 --> 0:45:37.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay nice, so sweet?

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Who did you love?

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.240
<v Speaker 1>I saw you and Krishelle got very close.

0:45:43.400 --> 0:45:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I want to be her mom is

0:45:46.960 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 2>she has tight I feel like she's so tired. She

0:45:48.600 --> 0:45:51.719
<v Speaker 2>looks like a Barbie doll. She looks like a Barbie doll.

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:53.759
<v Speaker 2>But then I look at them, I'm like, oh, they're

0:45:53.760 --> 0:45:56.879
<v Speaker 2>from California. They don't eat pasta like we like. She's

0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:00.919
<v Speaker 2>like forty something. Yeah, and I would I would never think.

0:46:01.600 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>I thought I was yeah, she looks so young.

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:06.920
<v Speaker 2>She's so young. I was like, it's so nice and

0:46:06.960 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 2>so humble and the biggest heart you ever saw in

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 2>your life.

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh I love that, And I'm obsessed with Gabby, Gabby

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:16.719
<v Speaker 1>popping off, right, don't give you. Gabby gives no any

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 1>so funny Gay talks to wake up in the morning,

0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:20.680
<v Speaker 1>killing me.

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:22.760
<v Speaker 2>She's hysterical and.

0:46:22.760 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Is like, does she like say? And she's like that.

0:46:25.440 --> 0:46:29.360
<v Speaker 2>She's very smart. Oh yeah, but she makes like she's

0:46:29.640 --> 0:46:34.480
<v Speaker 2>smart with a funny edge and witty. But she's super

0:46:34.600 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 2>inherently smart. Yeah, she's a nurse, you know by trade.

0:46:38.920 --> 0:46:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, she's an ran Oh okay, she was a

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:43.880
<v Speaker 2>cheerleader to go through that.

0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean my cousins are auras. It's very hard, very

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.480
<v Speaker 1>hard schooling Sierra too. Wow.

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.960
<v Speaker 2>And you know about keeping their license?

0:46:52.280 --> 0:46:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course. Did Gabby still keep her license?

0:46:56.320 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think she needs. I'm like, Gabby, you're

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:02.800
<v Speaker 2>a nurse, right, you still kept your likes? And Robbie's

0:47:02.800 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 2>funny them two together, hysterical her wife. Yet I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have stayed close? Have you stayed close with

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<v Speaker 1>all the traders winners?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So we had a lot of press together. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a big age difference from me. Okay, So you

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<v Speaker 2>know I love kids like I want to be everybody's mother.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you connected close with Dylan Efron.

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<v Speaker 2>Dylan e Fron, Yes, he was so nice to me,

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<v Speaker 2>treated me like a mom. He's very respectful. He's a gentleman.

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<v Speaker 2>If he hurt someone, he like cried, I'm like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, where does this person come from?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of people are these people? They're so nice?

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<v Speaker 1>Where is he from?

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<v Speaker 2>California's Zach Efron's brother? You know?

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<v Speaker 1>I just like found that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Stop it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So did you ever meet Zac Efron? Because Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Efron was my childhood crush?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, I never met Zach.

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<v Speaker 1>High school musical was my everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, you know why? I met Kenny Ortega he choreographed

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<v Speaker 2>high school music and Michael Jackson he was choreogra he Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was Michael Jackson's choreographer. So I knew Kenny. Our

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<v Speaker 2>take up very well. Oh that's so fun. But we

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<v Speaker 2>used to hang out at his house when Frankie was

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<v Speaker 2>filming the movie in California. Wow, but that's so what

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<v Speaker 2>am I doing here? I'm from Patterson? Why did I know?

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<v Speaker 2>But you guys to California.

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<v Speaker 1>This life has blessed you all. I feel like, with

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<v Speaker 1>so many amazing looks and you know obviously the good

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<v Speaker 1>with the good comes with the bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing's for free, no, and that's what I say. Nothing

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<v Speaker 2>is for free in this world.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the Lris, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you. I love you such an amazing it's

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<v Speaker 2>such an honor to be here. Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so happy to have you on