Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.
Speaker 1: This week, I have somebody very close to me on
Speaker 1: the podcast, Dolores. Welcome to Casual care.
Speaker 2: I'm my g Yeah, I'm so proud of you. I
Speaker 2: love this.
Speaker 1: Wait, and I just found out that you're on Teddy's
Speaker 1: podcast as well.
Speaker 2: As to tease. So it's just I'm a seat warmer.
Speaker 2: Teddy is gonna come back and she's going to be
Speaker 2: better than ever. So I'm just filling in and I
Speaker 2: love it.
Speaker 1: I honestly am so happy to hear that you're doing it.
Speaker 1: I feel like that is your calling.
Speaker 2: I would have never thought. So we're just like we recap,
Speaker 2: Oh my god, jaa, we recap like.
Speaker 1: It's fun because you're not You're not a gossiper, but
Speaker 1: you like to do it.
Speaker 2: I feel like Loky Locy. So Paul hears me in
Speaker 2: the background and he's like this, like I'm saying what
Speaker 2: I say about Summer House. I'm waiting for one of
Speaker 2: the boys to be mad at me.
Speaker 1: You're into Summerhouse even, feel like I heard you talking
Speaker 1: to my mom about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was talking to your mom Like I'm into
Speaker 2: everything now because I can gossip about it, and people
Speaker 2: are like, wow, you've got a voice, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: but it's easy to not talk about my friends. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like these people are my friends. Yeah. And the stuff
Speaker 2: I'm saying about Atlanta, Oh my god. I hope I
Speaker 2: don't see them many time soon.
Speaker 1: Wait. I feel like now I kind of want to
Speaker 1: get into Summerhouse really bad because I am obsessed with Page.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people are obsessed with Page. But
Speaker 2: let me tell you, I have a heart for Sierra.
Speaker 2: Like Sierra is in the no one's in the GA category, Yes,
Speaker 2: but I love her like that.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm interested because I want to get to
Speaker 1: know the cast. A lot of people love Sierra. I've
Speaker 1: seen Amanda at a couple events as Sweetheart. She's a sweetheart.
Speaker 1: The girls on that show are animals to the guys.
Speaker 1: And you would listen, let me tell you something, ja it.
Speaker 1: You need to watch it, and I want to hear
Speaker 1: what you have to say about it, because I would wonder,
Speaker 1: because you and I are cut from the same cloth.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you would get mad about the things
Speaker 1: that I get mad about, and I think you would, well,
Speaker 1: I feel like I would get mad about a lot
Speaker 1: of this stuff with like defending Amanda, just clips that
Speaker 1: I've literally seen on my TikTok, like getting mad.
Speaker 2: For her, you mean with with her with Kyle. Oh,
Speaker 2: I feel sorry for him. She is going she is
Speaker 2: going to hurt him one day. No, these girls are
Speaker 2: coming into themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like there's Page and Craig in the beginning, she I
Speaker 2: heard he wasn't that nice to her? Okay, interesting, and
Speaker 2: then when the tables turn as we say yeah, she
Speaker 2: literally flips the I'm gonna use references to my best friend.
Speaker 2: She flips the table on him and then jumps on
Speaker 2: the table and jomps on.
Speaker 1: It because now she's standing on her own. She's fully
Speaker 1: confident in her her own way, and I feel like
Speaker 1: standing on her own.
Speaker 2: And he eats shit, Like I could tell by the
Speaker 2: first phone call of this season when she's talking to
Speaker 2: him and she's like, yeah, my schedule's full. I won't
Speaker 2: be making it anytime soon to see you, just saying
Speaker 2: He's like huh and and she's like yeah, no. There's
Speaker 2: like a dot on every day of her calendar.
Speaker 1: Like you can tell because even in interviews he goes
Speaker 1: or I think it was on his reunion he was like,
Speaker 1: this is not the page that I met. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's not because she's confident now, yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: That she grew out of you. She grew out of you,
Speaker 2: and and it's gonna hurt. And I like they had
Speaker 2: and then like when you're hurting a guy, sometimes you
Speaker 2: feel bad, even if they deserve it. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. She is taking no prisoners. No, she has
Speaker 2: no she's actually mad at him that he's even asking
Speaker 2: for something that he would normally are Like sometimes when
Speaker 2: I see like the guys going to kiss the girls
Speaker 2: and they're yawning in the morning because they don't want
Speaker 2: to kiss them back, I'm like.
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, I feel like it's so also obvious with women,
Speaker 1: when you're done, you're done. Oh men, I feel like
Speaker 1: they'll kind of just break your heart, you know, if
Speaker 1: they're done or cheat on you.
Speaker 2: Do this, do that, they're sorry? Yes, women will hang on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when we're done, we're done.
Speaker 2: Well, that's totally done. But she's not only done. She
Speaker 2: is eviscerating him through it all. And like he's a
Speaker 2: little it was a little bitter, But did you see
Speaker 2: he's got this girl?
Speaker 1: Well I heard that he's dating.
Speaker 2: I'm getting such a rush I never got to know
Speaker 2: before I'm gonna wind up getting in trouble.
Speaker 1: You do not well, this is fun because everyone's gonna
Speaker 1: be like, well, Dolores has clearly been gatekeeping.
Speaker 2: This old time.
Speaker 1: No, she always she wanted to be the middleman on
Speaker 1: Jersey have.
Speaker 2: Broken the seal because you've always heard me talk like
Speaker 2: without being guarded. Of course, there was such a consequence
Speaker 2: for saying certain things on our show because they never
Speaker 2: got you know what I mean, Like people just like
Speaker 2: take it. So like I'm watching the other shows now
Speaker 2: and they kind of make up right away and they
Speaker 2: don't go so low because they make up right away,
Speaker 2: doesn't go piled on and piled on and piled on.
Speaker 2: So yeah, whatever, But so yeah, Summer House. But here's
Speaker 2: the one thing I have to ask you, and this
Speaker 2: is gonna just maybe not be good, So let me
Speaker 2: ask you. Jesse Solomon is a dog got he's got
Speaker 2: a little girlfriend, h Lexi. She was a model. She
Speaker 2: went out with like the likes of Brooklyn Beckham. Lexie
Speaker 2: would she went out if she's she's got a roster? Okay,
Speaker 2: so now she's like likes Jesse or whatever. And he's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: so I'm not sure if I want to be that committed,
Speaker 2: but I want. I want you to like we're supposed
Speaker 2: to have sex like every day, Like I even hate
Speaker 2: to say that word. It's like, yeah, okay, okay, so there,
Speaker 2: but she's like, listen, unless you're going to be in
Speaker 2: a committed relationship with me, No, we're not.
Speaker 1: I don't want and she has every right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and so the weekend that she's not there.
Speaker 1: I don't even is Jesse like that?
Speaker 2: Cue I don't even know. So bad, so bad, I'm
Speaker 2: so bad.
Speaker 1: And now that I'm like entering the world too, like
Speaker 1: I need to, like, you know who.
Speaker 2: These people are? Okay, so he's he's not bad looking,
Speaker 2: he's cute. He's cute, but he wouldn't be your type. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: so he's not walking around in a wife beater with like,
Speaker 2: you know, nice hair, and you know he's he's Jesse Solomon.
Speaker 1: Is he like Irish? I love you?
Speaker 2: He's Jewish.
Speaker 1: He's Jewish.
Speaker 2: That's okay, don't leave. Don't cut that out, guys, do
Speaker 2: not cut that out.
Speaker 1: He's actually irishman, he doesn't have red hair. No, why
Speaker 1: do I like Jesse Solomon. I'm picturing like a red Ginger.
Speaker 2: No, he's not a red Ginger. He's got big smile,
Speaker 2: he's dark, he's tall. You wouldn't like him though, he
Speaker 2: would not be in type. He doesn't look Italian at all. Perfect.
Speaker 2: So so like he's kind of like flirting really heavily
Speaker 2: with Sierra, And this is what I'm getting to because
Speaker 2: there's so much other stuff going on, but he's like
Speaker 2: starting to tell her he likes her, and Sierra liked
Speaker 2: him last year wound up hooking up with West, who
Speaker 2: was her friend, and then West kind of like out
Speaker 2: of like said I just didn't like her on like
Speaker 2: all these like platforms, and it really hurt her. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So now Jesse's coming and swooping into like be the
Speaker 2: wounded bird and kind of like get Sierra and kind
Speaker 2: of vulnerable. Yeah, okay, so I have a problem with that.
Speaker 2: I do too, But what I have a bigger problem.
Speaker 1: Is because he got her when she's weak.
Speaker 2: Thank you, But I have a bigger problem with her
Speaker 2: friend's encouraging it. Page and and and Amanda or like
Speaker 2: did you see them they're talking? Did you see they're close?
Speaker 1: I would have grabbed they wanted her to like get
Speaker 1: over us by doing that.
Speaker 2: No, she's over him. She she told him off at
Speaker 2: the table and she said, you're a loser. Just want
Speaker 2: to get this off my chest. And now they've had
Speaker 2: a talk, she's over him. Okay.
Speaker 1: So then yeah, you're like, I don't stand for this either,
Speaker 1: So I wouldn't stand for.
Speaker 2: Why are your friends like like so she had her
Speaker 2: leg on his lap. Okay, she might be a little book,
Speaker 2: I'll say, maybe she's a little she'll get mad at this.
Speaker 2: She might be a little bit vulnerable at the time.
Speaker 2: And why did Page say, oh, kiss her feet or
Speaker 2: lick her toes? Like I would be like if I
Speaker 2: was Paige, I'd be like, hey, Jesse, sit on the
Speaker 2: other couch, thank you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like let her let her be for a minute,
Speaker 1: maybe when she's really.
Speaker 2: How about let her be for good, Like I want
Speaker 2: her to be out of like some bring your own
Speaker 2: person in that house.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, that's how I feel about that, And I
Speaker 2: think that's the kind of friend you would be. I
Speaker 2: would so right now, I love the girls, but I'm
Speaker 2: upset with that.
Speaker 1: Okay, got it. I need to really catch up.
Speaker 2: Just watch last episode.
Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like I really want to like get
Speaker 1: invested though, But it's been somewhere else, has been on
Speaker 1: for so long. Isn't this their ninth season.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised you've never been to one of their parties
Speaker 2: in the Hamptons, like they have these theme parties.
Speaker 1: Never been to the Hampton's. What I want to go
Speaker 1: to the hampton so bad. All I've known my whole
Speaker 1: life is the Jersey Shore. Do you know how bad
Speaker 1: I'm dying to go to the Hampton's, Like, someone invite
Speaker 1: me to the Hampton's.
Speaker 2: Please, you don't need an invite, you just go. I well, yeah, see,
Speaker 2: had I known that you and I would have would
Speaker 2: have had a different conversation. I've never been because I
Speaker 2: always say to the girls, like the young pretty girls,
Speaker 2: I'm like, get your hosted a Hampton. Yeah I've never been. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well that's a fun time.
Speaker 1: Well you and my mom were just there last summer, right,
Speaker 1: yeah Jill Zaren Oh.
Speaker 2: Yes, we were at Jill Zarren's party. Listen, we missed
Speaker 2: the boat. For what I'm telling you to do, like
Speaker 2: go and have a good time.
Speaker 1: Like go to Surflage, Hey, go with your girlfriends and
Speaker 1: have a g I want to do a weekend. I
Speaker 1: want to stay at that hotel too, which is apparently
Speaker 1: super nice.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Starts with maybe I'm lying.
Speaker 2: There's journey, but there's one on the beach.
Speaker 1: Just call maybe the beach.
Speaker 2: Okay. So yeah, ja, yeah, I know you know what
Speaker 2: I wanted you. We've all waited for a very long Yeah.
Speaker 1: But we've always been embedded at the shore. I know
Speaker 1: you can't say different either. I know, but I didn't
Speaker 1: know better you too, I know you didn't.
Speaker 2: Have me telling you to get out of here break.
Speaker 1: A we I know, speaking of you and my mom.
Speaker 1: You guys have been friends since you were teenagers? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: how was that growing up in Patterson, going down to
Speaker 1: the Jersey Shore? Just growing up in that old school mentality?
Speaker 2: It's what it's everything growing up in Patterson, which is
Speaker 2: a rough place like to grow up and but.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't I feel like as bad then.
Speaker 2: It was tough, tough. We were raised very tough. And
Speaker 2: I think it's what everything that defines us. This show
Speaker 2: does not define us, the marriage, like whatever we've been
Speaker 2: through in our lives, what I think defines us the most.
Speaker 2: Everything kind of defines you that you go through. But
Speaker 2: what defines us the most is the way we were
Speaker 2: raised and how we had to grow up. And nothing
Speaker 2: was easy.
Speaker 1: So even growing up, I feel like you both saw
Speaker 1: a lot as well, went through a lot.
Speaker 2: We saw a lot and went through a lot. We
Speaker 2: saw a lot of heartache around even the people around
Speaker 2: us hard times, you know. I mean I didn't even
Speaker 2: go on a plane until I was twenty two on
Speaker 2: a vacation, and we just worked very hard for everything.
Speaker 2: So and it was a very diverse neighborhood. We knew
Speaker 2: people from all over the world. Everybody was first generation.
Speaker 2: I wasn't, but there was still that mentality and all
Speaker 2: those your prints a fund you was everybody. Nobody's parents
Speaker 2: spoke English, and everybody had to do their parents' mortgages
Speaker 2: and banking and paperwork and speak for them and get
Speaker 2: through school without parents that spoke English. You know, it
Speaker 2: was not ever easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I wish they implemented the language to me.
Speaker 1: That's one thing I wish that I was fluent in.
Speaker 2: I know, but you can be.
Speaker 1: I know, I could get by, but I wish they
Speaker 1: like because you know, Nana and Nona would always speak
Speaker 1: to me. Did your parents speak Italian.
Speaker 2: No, my grandparents day okay, but back then they weren't
Speaker 2: like pushing the language like you know, it was kind
Speaker 2: of was frowned upon.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, yeah, everyone was trying to learn English.
Speaker 2: So they didn't want to speak Italian. They wanted to
Speaker 2: learn English. Got it. Okay, very interesting.
Speaker 1: So then obviously you know you're dynamic with my mom.
Speaker 1: You guys were very close in all of your twenties.
Speaker 1: When did your relationship start?
Speaker 2: So it really started. So we knew each other, like
Speaker 2: from the neighborhood I grew up. I went to school seven.
Speaker 2: You know that area, yes, yeah, by Jilts. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: have all there, so you always knew everybody. But when
Speaker 2: your mom went to different school than I did. So
Speaker 2: you know, when you're young and you're not driving, you
Speaker 2: don't meet your friends yet from different schools because a
Speaker 2: block of white is far. You don't go to another
Speaker 2: town to meet friends. You go wherever you could.
Speaker 1: Walk to, like a block away.
Speaker 2: So because your mom and I, so we knew of
Speaker 2: each other. All the Italian girls knew. There was the
Speaker 2: roma dances where everybody would get dressed up and go
Speaker 2: and try to meet their first boyfriends. To get married to.
Speaker 2: And that so funny, right. So, but so your mom
Speaker 2: we really got close when she started hanging around my
Speaker 2: cousin Tanya. Okay, And so I got married. I don't
Speaker 2: even know if I know this. Yes, So I got
Speaker 2: married early. Your mom had a shorehouse, and your mom
Speaker 2: had a group of girls and then my I think
Speaker 2: her and my cousin got in an argument one of
Speaker 2: the girls. So they came to my shorehouse and at
Speaker 2: this point, I'm pregnant. For gab, no what. I was
Speaker 2: the first one of the group to get married and
Speaker 2: have so I didn't get to do twenty four. But
Speaker 2: I was dating and working three jobs. By the time
Speaker 2: I was eighteen. I was dating Frank. So your mom
Speaker 2: comes to the shorehouse because they were all fighting. You
Speaker 2: know how that happens in shorehouses, of course. So yeah,
Speaker 2: your mom and my cousin, and here they come with it.
Speaker 2: Your mother had a pair of daisy dukes on and
Speaker 2: here I am feeling like terrible because I'm like nine
Speaker 2: months pregnant and they were getting ready to go to temptations.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: She talks about that place all the time like it
Speaker 1: was God's basement.
Speaker 2: It was God's basement and the surf club.
Speaker 1: Oh, surf club, forget it.
Speaker 2: And everyone was crazy for your mother because she had
Speaker 2: the nicest eyes. I remember we were out one night
Speaker 2: and some guys said that she looked like a cat,
Speaker 2: but she was like.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks, really nice compliment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so cute. So always your mom was always innocent
Speaker 2: until you pissed her off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I feel like that's me too.
Speaker 2: I know you're not, but you're you're a lot like
Speaker 2: sharper than both me and your mom put together.
Speaker 1: No, it's funny. My mom says that Malania is her
Speaker 1: to a t, and she's like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is a good thing or about I.
Speaker 2: Always would tell your mom, Milania's your boy. Oh, because
Speaker 2: your mom wanted a boy.
Speaker 1: One hundred percent and my dad got it too.
Speaker 2: I was actually Paul sent me a TikTok of Milania
Speaker 2: on your way on the way here of about her
Speaker 2: talking about her nose hairs, like she said the most
Speaker 2: she did not, which was little Oh she was in
Speaker 2: the car, in the car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw that one too, not too long ago.
Speaker 1: Her tiktoks like of like when she was little, are
Speaker 1: popping up everywhere. She really said the craziest she did.
Speaker 2: She's an old soul, that's that normal kid thing to say.
Speaker 2: And she was smart and on point with everything she was.
Speaker 1: She drove your father crazy, crazy, crazy, no nuts. I
Speaker 1: think she still drives us nuts though. That's the best part.
Speaker 1: But because you guys grew up together when you were younger,
Speaker 1: when the show approached the women at the Ladybug Foundation,
Speaker 1: why were you never a part of that going into
Speaker 1: first season?
Speaker 2: So I was, and it wasn't. I think it was
Speaker 2: more everybody who's getting their hair done, Me, your mom
Speaker 2: and the whole group of girls used to get our
Speaker 2: hair done to go out on Thursdays. Okay, and what
Speaker 2: did we know? We're Italian girls. We don't know. We
Speaker 2: didn't go to college, We don't know how to party.
Speaker 2: We just want to be able to wear our Jimmy
Speaker 2: choos and dress like sex in the city and go
Speaker 2: get an apple martini that we couldn't even drink because
Speaker 2: we didn't like it. Or we would go to what's
Speaker 2: the other place across from Tao. Okay, she's not catch
Speaker 2: it's like a Buddhakan.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, yeah yeah, go.
Speaker 2: To like Budacan or just walk around the meatpacking district
Speaker 2: thinking we were cool and be home by like twelve, Okay,
Speaker 2: that was our girls' nights out, and so yeah, so
Speaker 2: I they approached. They went to a place I think
Speaker 2: it was this hair sline. They were like, do you
Speaker 2: know a group of girls that like, yes, yeah, COG
Speaker 2: told you, no, group of girls that they hang out
Speaker 2: and have fun, and they were like, yeah, we actually do.
Speaker 2: So then it started and then you'll find me in
Speaker 2: the first confessional. I was really skinny at the time.
Speaker 2: I looked like you look the same, disgusting, and they said,
Speaker 2: you're gorgeous. Tell me about everyone's husband. So I explained,
Speaker 2: like Jacqueline and Chris and your mom and dad and
Speaker 2: all nice. I didn't, of course listen. We were not
Speaker 2: used to people turning on each other. Yet, we weren't
Speaker 2: used to producers tricks were We were green, We were still.
Speaker 2: We didn't know this world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom says it all the time. No one
Speaker 1: knew what they were getting themselves.
Speaker 2: No one knew what they were getting themselves into. And
Speaker 2: then the producer and I still remember his name, went
Speaker 2: and twisted my words and said I said something offbeat
Speaker 2: about one of them, and I got a call from
Speaker 2: one of my friends saying, did you say this? And
Speaker 2: I was so offended that somebody would think that I
Speaker 2: would dare say something about them. Now, I'd be like, ah, whatever,
Speaker 2: maybe I did. I don't know. Yeah, But back then
Speaker 2: we were not through all this. We were still like
Speaker 2: you remembered everything you did. You remembered everything you did,
Speaker 2: and we were so principled and nothing was diluted, and
Speaker 2: you didn't fight the way that this fight started, and
Speaker 2: you were friends for life. We still me and your
Speaker 2: mom still have friends from like grammar school now friends
Speaker 2: in this world. They kind of come and go, but.
Speaker 1: Do you say one wrong thing and it's detrimental and
Speaker 1: ends up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the show is like a little bit like
Speaker 2: it could be toxic and like sure, but we didn't
Speaker 2: come from that. So I was like, how fuck you,
Speaker 2: and don't come back by my house and I'm not
Speaker 2: doing this again. So that's what turned you away, That's
Speaker 2: what turns me away. And then I of course that
Speaker 2: your mom calls me, She's like, I just got please
Speaker 2: come back. There's this girl Danielle that's on the show
Speaker 2: now and and she's just kind of not fitting in
Speaker 2: and I'm like, but no, I don't like what they
Speaker 2: did to me. Yeah, by now I would have got
Speaker 2: over it. Yeah, I would have gotten over it. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have even thought twice about it.
Speaker 1: But it's that, it's how you guys were, and still
Speaker 1: comes out now a little bit too. And you know,
Speaker 1: my mom will hold something if it really sticks with you,
Speaker 1: my mom will hold onto it. And now she's trying
Speaker 1: to like let things go, and she does. But of course,
Speaker 1: like even I'm sure back then you when something stuck
Speaker 1: with you, guys, it.
Speaker 2: Stuck, It stuck gea and it was not diluted then. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so the things that happened back then you still hold
Speaker 2: a grudge till this day. But things that happen now
Speaker 2: you go a lot easier.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So I was like, no, don't ask me, don't come back,
Speaker 2: and and it was like then, I you know, Danielle
Speaker 2: came on.
Speaker 1: How was it watching that from the sideline?
Speaker 2: I didn't watch it. I figured not for a reason.
Speaker 2: I just didn't watch TV back then. Yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 2: like something I would get into or I watched What
Speaker 2: did I watch back then? I watched Ali mcbeil. That
Speaker 2: was about it. I didn't even know, yeah, you wouldn't know,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I really didn't watch TV and I didn't know,
Speaker 2: but I had heard what I had seen what was
Speaker 2: going on. Sisters weren't talking, your mom was going through stuff,
Speaker 2: and by now they started to catch on to what
Speaker 2: the producers were doing. And but it was late and
Speaker 2: then I was like, okay, I'm ready to come back on.
Speaker 2: They were like, yeah, no, we have these twins now
Speaker 2: and that was afterwards.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then when that because that was probably the
Speaker 1: worst season in Real House. I was in New Jersey
Speaker 1: history when the Twins.
Speaker 2: And they lost a million views. Amber, yeah, it was
Speaker 2: they lost a million views.
Speaker 1: It was a lot, so detrimental obviously to even Jersey
Speaker 1: staying on the network was did they come to you
Speaker 1: after that season?
Speaker 2: No, I tried to go. Remember when we went to
Speaker 2: your grandparents' house for the we went to the Cats
Speaker 2: skills and we had a weekend there.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was so much fun.
Speaker 2: It was so much fun. And they were like, okay,
Speaker 2: try out, you can come. And then they were going
Speaker 2: to the Dominican Republic. Every So Mom would like kind
Speaker 2: of like your mom, would you always your mom? She
Speaker 2: would be like, come, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Well, at the time, Jacqueline, you were still.
Speaker 2: Jacqueline and Caroline. They were like, yes, what are you doing.
Speaker 2: So they're like she, They're like, come on, just try it.
Speaker 2: So I went and I would show up.
Speaker 1: Remember those were the fun days though. Those were the
Speaker 1: best days.
Speaker 2: I remember those every ounce of that weekend. We had
Speaker 2: such a good time. And I would show up for
Speaker 2: things like the the relay race of Tackle.
Speaker 1: You were there too. I was, oh, my god, duh,
Speaker 1: that's when I had my tantrum. Yes, oh I hate cheaters, guys.
Speaker 2: She does. She's very competitive. She does not like cheaters
Speaker 2: till this day. You don't know, but Frankie was kind
Speaker 2: of laughing.
Speaker 1: Frankie literally was like, wea. I feel so bad because
Speaker 1: we were so close when we.
Speaker 2: Were younger, so close.
Speaker 1: That's when you and my mom would like fantasize like
Speaker 1: oh these two.
Speaker 2: Oh my heart, my heart so yeah, so like and
Speaker 2: then finally I said to them, I'm not showing up
Speaker 2: to these At that day, I said, I'm not showing
Speaker 2: up anymore unless you're gonna unless I'm getting paid getting paid.
Speaker 2: This is at least paid for my makeup like something.
Speaker 2: And they were like, yeah, no, so then I stopped,
Speaker 2: and then then I was like, all right, let me
Speaker 2: really try this. And they were like, okay, come and
Speaker 2: bring it. Bring it this weekend and we had a
Speaker 2: great time. Your dad was actually twerking like and he
Speaker 2: was doing John Claude vandam He wasn't turkey, he was
Speaker 2: doing like splits.
Speaker 1: God, that's his signature, drunk move.
Speaker 2: Yes, his signature. Your grandparents cooked all weekend and then
Speaker 2: cried when we left. Oh so your grandfather cried. Your
Speaker 2: mother goes, watch this, we're leaving. And if I had
Speaker 2: company like that, it would be like, get go out
Speaker 2: of my house. They cooked for us, They gave us
Speaker 2: their beds, they went up, and that is the Italian way.
Speaker 1: You give the shirt off your you give the shirt
Speaker 1: off your back.
Speaker 2: And they treated us like and I would be like,
Speaker 2: oh God, are these people ever leaving? They were cooking,
Speaker 2: but that was sag they had. Your grandmother was wait
Speaker 2: making the deep fried potatoes.
Speaker 1: She loves, Oh and.
Speaker 2: Do that pole she probably did. And this went on
Speaker 2: and it was the best food I ever had till
Speaker 2: this day. And your grandfather cried, and we let my
Speaker 2: dad's father, your dad's father, and he never ever cried.
Speaker 2: He only cried when you would leave. Yeah, even if
Speaker 2: he was seen you the next day, they never wanted
Speaker 2: you to leave their house. Yeah. And then they told
Speaker 2: me now again, they told me like no, now, Like
Speaker 2: I could have been on in the beginning, but I
Speaker 2: think they were going to use me as a sacrificial
Speaker 2: lamb because I was the single girl on the show. Okay,
Speaker 2: so thank god I didn't go timing as everything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and in between that time a lot, I had been
Speaker 2: through a lot in my life, a lot of.
Speaker 1: But you also could have helped so many people, which
Speaker 1: I think, but I think at that time it was
Speaker 1: everyone stays together, no one really gets divorced, and you
Speaker 1: were the first to kind of come onto the show
Speaker 1: and be like I've been through all this, right, and
Speaker 1: which would have been also. But I'm saying if they
Speaker 1: would have let you on during that time, I feel
Speaker 1: like you would have helped so many women come out
Speaker 1: and not be so afraid, because I feel like at
Speaker 1: that time it was very frowned upon.
Speaker 2: It was I didn't even tell the people in the kids'
Speaker 2: schools that I was divorced because I was embarrassed. But
Speaker 2: I had been through so much in that time, Gea
Speaker 2: and I learned so much. I have so much more
Speaker 2: to give. By the time I broke up with somebody
Speaker 2: I was dating at the time, and Jacqueline goes, try
Speaker 2: to come on the show. Your mom was coming home.
Speaker 1: And the first when they let you, that's when. It
Speaker 1: was twenty sixteen. Okay, twenty sixteen, yes, okay, this is
Speaker 1: making sense now.
Speaker 2: And the first time I filmed with your mom it
Speaker 2: was my birthday. It was December twenty eighth, and she
Speaker 2: was going food chopping. I was taking her food chopping,
Speaker 2: and it was so natural to be with her. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and it was so good. And me and your mom
Speaker 2: made a pack and said. Your mom said to me,
Speaker 2: don't let this show come between us and our friendship,
Speaker 2: and I never did.
Speaker 1: When was the hardest point between you and my mom's
Speaker 1: friendship while being on this show.
Speaker 2: I think the past couple of years, I feel like
Speaker 2: and I feel like I did really stand up for
Speaker 2: your mom and her relationship because I always said, let
Speaker 2: them be. Teresa has been through a lot. She can
Speaker 2: handle this. Look how he is with those kids. That's
Speaker 2: what I'm interested in things like this.
Speaker 1: And because I mean, I mean, poor Louis he can
Speaker 1: look left and they'll say something about him. And it's
Speaker 1: not even just the people on the show at this point,
Speaker 1: now it's bloggers. And once that starts, it's very hard.
Speaker 1: It's a vicious cycle. Vicious cycle.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Once once that it's it's very easy to fall
Speaker 2: from grace and it's very hard for to turn people's
Speaker 2: opinion around once that starts, once that seed is planted.
Speaker 1: So and it's so horrible because he's really and like
Speaker 1: you said, he's so amazing to us and our family.
Speaker 1: That's all that should matter. And I feel like Reesa
Speaker 1: can handle. That's the biggest point that we've always been
Speaker 1: trying to to like prove to everybody. But at this
Speaker 1: point it's also come to a point of exhaustion where
Speaker 1: it's like, say what you want. We're obviously happy behind
Speaker 1: open end, closed doors, but I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: feel like as much as it's my mom can handle herself,
Speaker 1: and you know, he's very good to our family. I
Speaker 1: feel like these past couple of years probably were the hardest.
Speaker 2: It were the hardest because your mom felt like people
Speaker 2: weren't doing enough, but there was only so much you
Speaker 2: can do. And then your mom gets a lot of
Speaker 2: background chatter she from people, and your mom doesn't always
Speaker 2: listen to the right people. I think that it's been
Speaker 2: the past couple of years. Really. Yeah, I handled things
Speaker 2: the way I felt was the right way. People see now,
Speaker 2: I handled things the way they should have been handled.
Speaker 2: I behind closed doors, I would say to everyone, you
Speaker 2: guys are going overboard. Things are getting out of control.
Speaker 2: Why speak to a blogger, Why speak to an ex
Speaker 2: off camera? You know why? Why?
Speaker 1: It's like you're investigating way too much? Yeah, and why
Speaker 1: do you care this much?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So it was a lot of.
Speaker 1: It's not because you care for the person, it's because
Speaker 1: you want to hurt the person.
Speaker 2: Well, there's intention behind everything. So I've learned not to
Speaker 2: get mad at somebody unless they're intent. It's the person's intention,
Speaker 2: and that's where you see me get the most mad
Speaker 2: when I think someone's intention, not what they're saying, what
Speaker 2: their intention is behind it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they knew there was nothing to attack my
Speaker 1: mom with anymore, not for nothing. Okay, you can throw
Speaker 1: the jail card so many times. It's like we've been there,
Speaker 1: done that. That was like almost a decade ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so now they were just trying to hurt the one
Speaker 1: person that was closest to her that meant the most
Speaker 1: to her besides her children, which was which is Louie.
Speaker 1: So that's why to dig that hard. You're not doing
Speaker 1: it to care for my mom. You're doing it to
Speaker 1: really hurt her.
Speaker 2: Right, So if you want to say something and then
Speaker 2: back off, friends always have to say something.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it's so easy, like you
Speaker 1: were saying on the other shows, because it's not that deep.
Speaker 2: It's not that deep. I'm what I'm watching now, Like
Speaker 2: they'll sit, they'll talk it out, and then they drop
Speaker 2: like they're kind of dropping it there. There's always something
Speaker 2: that's gonna come up. Of course, when you drag out
Speaker 2: a storyline, it's a lot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure.
Speaker 2: So you know, I would love for our show to
Speaker 2: come back the way it was in Ireland. We had
Speaker 2: a great time in Ireland. That was a nice trip.
Speaker 1: There was I feel like there were openings there was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was there was little holes that people could
Speaker 2: have actually cohabitated if they stuck on that path. But
Speaker 2: that didn't work.
Speaker 1: I know, like it's always just kind of falls back
Speaker 1: into that toxic, vicious cycle. So if you could have
Speaker 1: your ideal cast back, because you obviously want Housewives to
Speaker 1: come back. I think everybody does a little bit. New Jersey, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 2: People miss it. People grew up with this. People like
Speaker 2: they they're like, oh my god, I grew up watching
Speaker 2: this with my mother. This is related. That's what I
Speaker 2: get all the time.
Speaker 1: Even now, it's the daughters coming up to me saying
Speaker 1: I used to watch this show. I watch this show
Speaker 1: all the time with my mom and we're the same age.
Speaker 1: But she's like, I relate to you so much, or
Speaker 1: people that come up to me, or I love sympathizing
Speaker 1: with you and going through life with you. And I
Speaker 1: feel like fans really go through that, especially with you guys.
Speaker 2: They do. They do. They look us at us like
Speaker 2: a mother, like an aunt, like a friend or somebody
Speaker 2: who Yeah, everybody on our show has made mistakes in
Speaker 2: their lives.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I hope that young girls at least see it and
Speaker 2: they may make the same, but at least they'll know
Speaker 2: what they are when they're going through it, you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I would the truth. I would love to
Speaker 2: see everybody come back. Yeah, I don't care what anybody says.
Speaker 1: It's a little deeper than that. You can't be mediocre.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I've been mediocre, like I said, your mom,
Speaker 2: I said, Jen, Jen Jen. But I think the dynamic
Speaker 2: I don't know the show without everybody in it.
Speaker 1: Like, yes, but there needs to I feel like there
Speaker 1: also needs to be crazy change so that this toxicness
Speaker 1: also doesn't come back, like there needs.
Speaker 2: To be there. But then they also try.
Speaker 1: I feel like they also tried to implement very forthstanding
Speaker 1: rules do not do this, like, do not do that,
Speaker 1: but they were still overseen and the toxic, like, the
Speaker 1: toxicity still came through.
Speaker 2: So I say, better the devil you know than the
Speaker 2: devil you don't. Yeah, if I if I some other
Speaker 2: girls come on who suck, hungry, thirsty, and I don't
Speaker 2: know them, I don't know anything. I like knowing everything
Speaker 2: about the people that I'm fighting with. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2: We like to have some background knowledge. Oh yeah, so
Speaker 2: then what I gotta get to know somebody all over again?
Speaker 2: I know what they're capable of.
Speaker 1: Do you want someone new though? Do you want to
Speaker 1: see some of the fass?
Speaker 2: You know what I'd like to see on my friend
Speaker 2: Christina Pastina.
Speaker 1: Okay, and then my doolo, are you on hold? I
Speaker 1: have to ask, what do you mean hold? Did Bravo
Speaker 1: hold you?
Speaker 2: Oh? They told me. I can't say.
Speaker 1: Exact I figured I just had to ask. Yeah, But
Speaker 1: I hope you are. I feel like I have a
Speaker 1: good feeling hopefully you are. But okay, I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask you some real house has a new Jersey rapid
Speaker 1: fire questions, and then we'll be done talking about Jersey
Speaker 1: because it's boring. Nois who is the fakest in your opinion?
Speaker 2: The fakeust? You know, I'm not answering these things, okay,
Speaker 2: And I think everybody on the show has to be
Speaker 2: fake at some point to get along with someone they
Speaker 2: don't like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so everyone.
Speaker 2: Everyone, everyone's fake at one point or another in the world.
Speaker 1: Who's on ozembek me.
Speaker 2: I knew you were gonna say me Margaret, and I
Speaker 2: think jen Fest Yeah, Jen Aiden.
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, you're right. Yeah, everyone's basically admitted to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at that point, I don't think anyone else no, same. Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm on the highest dose and it doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 1: You're so skinny you don't need anymore. But I know,
Speaker 1: like I know, it's hard to get off. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not getting look amazing, thank you, but I'm not
Speaker 1: getting off ever.
Speaker 2: So bad. It's good for you.
Speaker 1: Don't do it though, I mean, you were great before.
Speaker 1: And who face tuned their Instagram?
Speaker 2: Everyone? Every single person. Me and Jen Fessler took a
Speaker 2: picture at a premiere last night without it, and she said,
Speaker 2: if I ever find out that these pictures, they were
Speaker 2: so horrible they couldn't even be face tuned, she will
Speaker 2: never talk again unless you delete those pictures. I said,
Speaker 2: you don't have to tell me twice them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which housewive from another franchise would fit best on Jersey.
Speaker 2: I'd love to see Chanelle I Am on Jersey.
Speaker 1: Okay, she's a character.
Speaker 2: She is so funny and painfully honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah she is, and I need that. Yeah, I agree,
Speaker 1: I'd embrace that. I feel like some Miami girls might
Speaker 1: be good too.
Speaker 2: Oh I love Marisol and Alexia. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I a good energy.
Speaker 2: I'm curty. Yeah they're good.
Speaker 1: Yeah good because I feel like Miami and then I mean,
Speaker 1: Chanel I Am, but like my Emmy gives that same
Speaker 1: type of energy. Yet nobody, Yeah, no one can meet Jersey.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's true. No Atlanta give us a run.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually said that to Riley because I mean
Speaker 1: it's been talked about in the press, but the new
Speaker 1: Bravo show coming out that I'm on. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: Riley Candy's daughter. I actually said to her once, I
Speaker 1: feel like Atlanta and Jersey give same energy. She got
Speaker 1: really offended by that.
Speaker 2: Really why, I don't know.
Speaker 1: She like looked at me and said, no, they're very different.
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, doesn't look like that to me.
Speaker 1: I was very surprised, but she got very offended when
Speaker 1: I said that, that's not nice. It was kind of
Speaker 1: me also trying to bond over something.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, both of our moms are are on Housewives.
Speaker 2: We're on Housewives. Just trying to try to break the ice,
Speaker 2: break the ice a little. She didn't like it well
Speaker 2: right off the bat. Then you know that that's the
Speaker 2: pace of the relationship that you'll have with that person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very simple, which is pretty accurate. Yeah, with Frankie
Speaker 1: getting engaged again, Frankie, congratulations, I texted him.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so happy.
Speaker 1: That was a beautiful engagement as well.
Speaker 2: They did it at the Saint Patrick's Cathedral. Yes, I
Speaker 2: think my mom got married. Did she know or was
Speaker 2: it the Newark the Newer Cathedral?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, gorgeous, so stunning, but you love her?
Speaker 2: Yes, so nice. She's Portuguese, so they're like Italian and
Speaker 2: she's very family orientated, which I loved it. You know,
Speaker 2: me and frank you are very close. Ge is so yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like we just got for our birthdays. I know, like,
Speaker 1: did you know?
Speaker 2: I didn't? Did I know that? I didn't know it
Speaker 2: was gonna.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess when we got lunch on my birthday,
Speaker 1: so January eighth.
Speaker 2: No, I didn't know then. I didn't know. He told me.
Speaker 2: Oh right, He's like, okay, mom, can you help me
Speaker 2: out with this because like I want to get engaged
Speaker 2: next week or something.
Speaker 1: It was quick, It was quick. Yeah, And what was
Speaker 1: your reaction?
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I've been waiting for this. I
Speaker 2: had a feeling it was coming.
Speaker 1: So yeah, now that Frankie just got engaged, you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna let him enjoy his engagement, have his wedding, and
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Paulie and you are gonna let them have
Speaker 1: their moment and whenever the time comes between you two,
Speaker 1: it'll come.
Speaker 2: Whenever the time comes it'll come.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's funny. I remember when I was divorced. Your mother
Speaker 2: was very upset. She felt so bad for me. Do
Speaker 2: you remember coming over the house when you little kids.
Speaker 1: And this was when Frankie had the spiked y.
Speaker 2: Yeah, your mom felt. Your mom loves being married. She
Speaker 2: loved being married, she likes being a wife.
Speaker 1: I don't know why people push it so much on you,
Speaker 1: because so many people are so comfortable just having a
Speaker 1: partner for the rest of their life.
Speaker 2: I'm happy with a partner. I don't like to date.
Speaker 2: I don't like like I'm not a like I would like.
Speaker 1: I mean partner, but you guys are basically married.
Speaker 2: I treat everything like a marriage. Like if I'm with someone,
Speaker 2: I'm with them for at least five years, like four years,
Speaker 2: like I'm a I'm a girl, Like I don't know
Speaker 2: how people go on like three dates in a week.
Speaker 2: That would make me so nervous with three different people.
Speaker 1: I would I feel like, oh my god, this is
Speaker 1: too loose for me.
Speaker 2: And I love that they do that. Yeah, but like
Speaker 2: I just I don't know how I would do that
Speaker 2: because I'm like, not that I'm jealous, but I would
Speaker 2: be like is this person screw me over?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Is there another girl like? Well?
Speaker 1: You? It's kind of that like back of the head talk.
Speaker 2: I've never dated like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like regardless you and Paulie are both
Speaker 1: loyal to each other. You see a long term future,
Speaker 1: but there's no rush.
Speaker 2: There's no rush. I especially trusted somebody so.
Speaker 1: Much, especially now your kids are getting married, your kids
Speaker 1: are dating. You're enjoying this moment. You're not really rushing.
Speaker 2: Different kind of girl. I'm a different kind of girl,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people, like my mom's of course
Speaker 2: mad about it. My kids don't ask me at all,
Speaker 2: is she Yeah? You know Frank got married. I saw
Speaker 2: yeah that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just never saw that in his yarsy future.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know. I love Britt that like,
Speaker 1: she's such a sweetheart. I just like always seeing like Frank.
Speaker 1: I kind of figured he would be like my dad
Speaker 1: in a weird way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just enjoying life. He not met a young girl. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if he had to keep she's thirty five. Okay, he's sixty.
Speaker 1: I did not know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's sixty. He turned sixty last year. She
Speaker 2: agreed he died. She deserved that. Yeah, and I would
Speaker 2: even shade him. She wanted that, she wanted that, and
Speaker 2: she absolutely given that. Yes, And if I was a
Speaker 2: young girl, I don't. My mother used to say, oh,
Speaker 2: what are you wasting your youth? Don't let a guy
Speaker 2: string you along, because then you miss out on so
Speaker 2: much of your life. And then you have to start
Speaker 2: out because if a guy doesn't commit to you at
Speaker 2: a young age, that's not like you need to build
Speaker 2: your life. And if you want a family, if that's
Speaker 2: what you want, and she definitely wanted that. I meet
Speaker 2: a lot of girls, Jia, A lot of girls that
Speaker 2: say I was with some guy for like fourteen years
Speaker 2: and we never got married, and now it's too late
Speaker 2: for me to have a family, and it breaks me.
Speaker 2: I had to no, No, they have an understanding. She's
Speaker 2: not They're not gonna have.
Speaker 1: Children, Okay, I mean yeah, because then by the time
Speaker 1: the kid is twenty, Frank would think. Ye, that's where
Speaker 1: I think. It's so crazy sometimes for when men have
Speaker 1: kids so late. I know, I don't understand it. I know, well,
Speaker 1: thank god they understand.
Speaker 2: They came to that. I can't. I feel like Gobby
Speaker 2: would have a stroke, debt, everyone would be dead I
Speaker 2: would be dead and have nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2: Anybody in the vicinity. Gabby's spitfire, spit fire, especially when
Speaker 2: it comes to fread.
Speaker 1: She's head some care.
Speaker 2: No, we need another go out again. No, I'm so faddy.
Speaker 1: My mom literally keeps asking me when's Gabby's birthday? When's
Speaker 1: Gabby's birthday? I'm like, not yet.
Speaker 2: She's so cute.
Speaker 1: She's like, we need to all go out together.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were one of the winners last seasons
Speaker 1: on Traders. Gradually that was the best experience of my life.
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 1: You know who I just thought about and who could
Speaker 1: do it? My dad because it's in Scotland.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I was like, so good he could actually do this
Speaker 1: and not some like production of like this person going
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 2: Like it's very different producing their Yeah, so it was.
Speaker 2: I mean it was definitely. They have a wellness team,
Speaker 2: so it was a hard mental experience, it was. But
Speaker 2: like they're not they are not looking for drama. Like
Speaker 2: they cut out some things that people would say that
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have have made them look great. Okay, things air,
Speaker 2: you know, like what like Danielle sworn her kids on
Speaker 2: camera and they said, no, we don't like that. Okay,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yes, so they're cut from a different cloth.
Speaker 2: So nice they it's not about the drama. It's about
Speaker 2: the game and the strategy.
Speaker 1: And I just wonder if, like your mom says, freshure
Speaker 1: breath there, do you think you would understand the game.
Speaker 1: I feel like the game is really difficult something it's.
Speaker 2: Difficult to understand if you didn't watch Big Brother or
Speaker 2: Survivor did your dad watch that stuff? I feel like
Speaker 2: he doesn't.
Speaker 1: I don't watch this is the Discovery Channel.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you know what though, your dad, your dad,
Speaker 2: me going there not knowing the game helped me win, Okay,
Speaker 2: because I wasn't strategic in trying to really find the traders.
Speaker 2: I was just trying to survive.
Speaker 1: Yes, So, because I was telling him how it was
Speaker 1: a very like isolating situation and everything like that, and
Speaker 1: he was like, I'd be fine. I was in prison.
Speaker 2: He has to get it. He has to has to
Speaker 2: get on that show. They already picked the cast for
Speaker 2: this year. Yes, I know, but there's gonna be one
Speaker 2: in Ireland. I don't know if they just pick Irish people.
Speaker 2: But I just saw there's a castle that they picked
Speaker 2: for the Irish traders. There's the UK traders.
Speaker 1: Oh so it's everywhere Australia. Okay, this could be something fun.
Speaker 1: I just kind of thought about that.
Speaker 2: Ge yet you know how to do these things? Get
Speaker 2: your dad on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well traders casting, listen to.
Speaker 2: Me, Studio Lambert if you want to show if you
Speaker 2: think Tom Sandoval was funny, Joe Judae is hysterical. You
Speaker 2: don't even know. You don't know what you're missing, you
Speaker 2: don't know. You know, who's really nice? Sam Ashgari Britney Spears' ex.
Speaker 1: Okay nice, so sweet?
Speaker 2: Who did you love?
Speaker 1: I saw you and Krishelle got very close.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I want to be her mom is
Speaker 2: she has tight I feel like she's so tired. She
Speaker 2: looks like a Barbie doll. She looks like a Barbie doll.
Speaker 2: But then I look at them, I'm like, oh, they're
Speaker 2: from California. They don't eat pasta like we like. She's
Speaker 2: like forty something. Yeah, and I would I would never think.
Speaker 1: I thought I was yeah, she looks so young.
Speaker 2: She's so young. I was like, it's so nice and
Speaker 2: so humble and the biggest heart you ever saw in
Speaker 2: your life.
Speaker 1: Oh I love that, And I'm obsessed with Gabby, Gabby
Speaker 1: popping off, right, don't give you. Gabby gives no any
Speaker 1: so funny Gay talks to wake up in the morning,
Speaker 1: killing me.
Speaker 2: She's hysterical and.
Speaker 1: Is like, does she like say? And she's like that.
Speaker 2: She's very smart. Oh yeah, but she makes like she's
Speaker 2: smart with a funny edge and witty. But she's super
Speaker 2: inherently smart. Yeah, she's a nurse, you know by trade.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, she's an ran Oh okay, she was a
Speaker 2: cheerleader to go through that.
Speaker 1: I mean my cousins are auras. It's very hard, very
Speaker 1: hard schooling Sierra too. Wow.
Speaker 2: And you know about keeping their license?
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. Did Gabby still keep her license?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think she needs. I'm like, Gabby, you're
Speaker 2: a nurse, right, you still kept your likes? And Robbie's
Speaker 2: funny them two together, hysterical her wife. Yet I love that.
Speaker 1: So you have stayed close? Have you stayed close with
Speaker 1: all the traders winners?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So we had a lot of press together. Yeah.
Speaker 2: There's a big age difference from me. Okay, So you
Speaker 2: know I love kids like I want to be everybody's mother.
Speaker 1: I feel like you connected close with Dylan Efron.
Speaker 2: Dylan e Fron, Yes, he was so nice to me,
Speaker 2: treated me like a mom. He's very respectful. He's a gentleman.
Speaker 2: If he hurt someone, he like cried, I'm like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, where does this person come from?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: What kind of people are these people? They're so nice?
Speaker 1: Where is he from?
Speaker 2: California's Zach Efron's brother? You know?
Speaker 1: I just like found that out.
Speaker 2: Stop it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So did you ever meet Zac Efron? Because Zach
Speaker 1: Efron was my childhood crush?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I never met Zach.
Speaker 1: High school musical was my everything.
Speaker 2: Really, you know why? I met Kenny Ortega he choreographed
Speaker 2: high school music and Michael Jackson he was choreogra he Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was Michael Jackson's choreographer. So I knew Kenny. Our
Speaker 2: take up very well. Oh that's so fun. But we
Speaker 2: used to hang out at his house when Frankie was
Speaker 2: filming the movie in California. Wow, but that's so what
Speaker 2: am I doing here? I'm from Patterson? Why did I know?
Speaker 2: But you guys to California.
Speaker 1: This life has blessed you all. I feel like, with
Speaker 1: so many amazing looks and you know obviously the good
Speaker 1: with the good comes with the bad.
Speaker 2: Nothing's for free, no, and that's what I say. Nothing
Speaker 2: is for free in this world.
Speaker 1: Well, the Lris, thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I love you. I love you such an amazing it's
Speaker 2: such an honor to be here. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you on