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Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to another week of Casual Chaos.

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Speaker 1: This week, I have somebody very close to me on

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Speaker 1: the podcast, Dolores. Welcome to Casual care.

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Speaker 2: I'm my g Yeah, I'm so proud of you. I

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Speaker 2: love this.

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Speaker 1: Wait, and I just found out that you're on Teddy's

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Speaker 1: podcast as well.

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Speaker 2: As to tease. So it's just I'm a seat warmer.

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Speaker 2: Teddy is gonna come back and she's going to be

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Speaker 2: better than ever. So I'm just filling in and I

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Speaker 2: love it.

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Speaker 1: I honestly am so happy to hear that you're doing it.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that is your calling.

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Speaker 2: I would have never thought. So we're just like we recap,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, jaa, we recap like.

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Speaker 1: It's fun because you're not You're not a gossiper, but

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Speaker 1: you like to do it.

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Speaker 2: I feel like Loky Locy. So Paul hears me in

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Speaker 2: the background and he's like this, like I'm saying what

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Speaker 2: I say about Summer House. I'm waiting for one of

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Speaker 2: the boys to be mad at me.

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Speaker 1: You're into Summerhouse even, feel like I heard you talking

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Speaker 1: to my mom about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was talking to your mom Like I'm into

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Speaker 2: everything now because I can gossip about it, and people

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Speaker 2: are like, wow, you've got a voice, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: but it's easy to not talk about my friends. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like these people are my friends. Yeah. And the stuff

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Speaker 2: I'm saying about Atlanta, Oh my god. I hope I

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Speaker 2: don't see them many time soon.

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Speaker 1: Wait. I feel like now I kind of want to

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Speaker 1: get into Summerhouse really bad because I am obsessed with Page.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of people are obsessed with Page. But

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Speaker 2: let me tell you, I have a heart for Sierra.

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Speaker 2: Like Sierra is in the no one's in the GA category, Yes,

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Speaker 2: but I love her like that.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm interested because I want to get to

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Speaker 1: know the cast. A lot of people love Sierra. I've

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Speaker 1: seen Amanda at a couple events as Sweetheart. She's a sweetheart.

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Speaker 1: The girls on that show are animals to the guys.

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Speaker 1: And you would listen, let me tell you something, ja it.

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Speaker 1: You need to watch it, and I want to hear

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Speaker 1: what you have to say about it, because I would wonder,

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Speaker 1: because you and I are cut from the same cloth.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if you would get mad about the things

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Speaker 1: that I get mad about, and I think you would, well,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I would get mad about a lot

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Speaker 1: of this stuff with like defending Amanda, just clips that

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Speaker 1: I've literally seen on my TikTok, like getting mad.

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Speaker 2: For her, you mean with with her with Kyle. Oh,

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Speaker 2: I feel sorry for him. She is going she is

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Speaker 2: going to hurt him one day. No, these girls are

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Speaker 2: coming into themselves.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like there's Page and Craig in the beginning, she I

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Speaker 2: heard he wasn't that nice to her? Okay, interesting, and

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Speaker 2: then when the tables turn as we say yeah, she

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Speaker 2: literally flips the I'm gonna use references to my best friend.

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Speaker 2: She flips the table on him and then jumps on

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Speaker 2: the table and jomps on.

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Speaker 1: It because now she's standing on her own. She's fully

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Speaker 1: confident in her her own way, and I feel like

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Speaker 1: standing on her own.

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Speaker 2: And he eats shit, Like I could tell by the

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Speaker 2: first phone call of this season when she's talking to

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Speaker 2: him and she's like, yeah, my schedule's full. I won't

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Speaker 2: be making it anytime soon to see you, just saying

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Speaker 2: He's like huh and and she's like yeah, no. There's

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Speaker 2: like a dot on every day of her calendar.

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Speaker 1: Like you can tell because even in interviews he goes

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Speaker 1: or I think it was on his reunion he was like,

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Speaker 1: this is not the page that I met. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: it's not because she's confident now, yeah, it's.

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Speaker 2: That she grew out of you. She grew out of you,

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Speaker 2: and and it's gonna hurt. And I like they had

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Speaker 2: and then like when you're hurting a guy, sometimes you

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Speaker 2: feel bad, even if they deserve it. You know what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying. She is taking no prisoners. No, she has

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Speaker 2: no she's actually mad at him that he's even asking

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Speaker 2: I see like the guys going to kiss the girls

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Speaker 2: and they're yawning in the morning because they don't want

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Speaker 2: to kiss them back, I'm like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, oh, I feel like it's so also obvious with women,

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Speaker 1: when you're done, you're done. Oh men, I feel like

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Speaker 1: they'll kind of just break your heart, you know, if

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Speaker 1: they're done or cheat on you.

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Speaker 2: Do this, do that, they're sorry? Yes, women will hang on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when we're done, we're done.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's totally done. But she's not only done. She

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Speaker 2: is eviscerating him through it all. And like he's a

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Speaker 2: little it was a little bitter, But did you see

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Speaker 2: he's got this girl?

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Speaker 1: Well I heard that he's dating.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting such a rush I never got to know

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Speaker 2: before I'm gonna wind up getting in trouble.

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Speaker 1: You do not well, this is fun because everyone's gonna

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Speaker 1: be like, well, Dolores has clearly been gatekeeping.

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Speaker 2: This old time.

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Speaker 1: No, she always she wanted to be the middleman on

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Speaker 1: Jersey have.

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Speaker 2: Broken the seal because you've always heard me talk like

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Speaker 2: without being guarded. Of course, there was such a consequence

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Speaker 2: for saying certain things on our show because they never

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Speaker 2: got you know what I mean, Like people just like

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Speaker 2: take it. So like I'm watching the other shows now

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Speaker 2: and they kind of make up right away and they

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Speaker 2: don't go so low because they make up right away,

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Speaker 2: doesn't go piled on and piled on and piled on.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, whatever, But so yeah, Summer House. But here's

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Speaker 2: the one thing I have to ask you, and this

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Speaker 2: is gonna just maybe not be good, So let me

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Speaker 2: ask you. Jesse Solomon is a dog got he's got

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Speaker 2: a little girlfriend, h Lexi. She was a model. She

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Speaker 2: went out with like the likes of Brooklyn Beckham. Lexie

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Speaker 2: would she went out if she's she's got a roster? Okay,

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Speaker 2: so now she's like likes Jesse or whatever. And he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: so I'm not sure if I want to be that committed,

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Speaker 2: but I want. I want you to like we're supposed

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Speaker 2: to have sex like every day, Like I even hate

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Speaker 2: to say that word. It's like, yeah, okay, okay, so there,

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Speaker 2: but she's like, listen, unless you're going to be in

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Speaker 2: a committed relationship with me, No, we're not.

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Speaker 1: I don't want and she has every right.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and so the weekend that she's not there.

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Speaker 1: I don't even is Jesse like that?

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Speaker 2: Cue I don't even know. So bad, so bad, I'm

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Speaker 1: And now that I'm like entering the world too, like

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Speaker 1: I need to, like, you know who.

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Speaker 2: These people are? Okay, so he's he's not bad looking,

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Speaker 2: he's cute. He's cute, but he wouldn't be your type. Okay, okay,

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Speaker 2: so he's not walking around in a wife beater with like,

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Speaker 2: you know, nice hair, and you know he's he's Jesse Solomon.

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Speaker 1: Is he like Irish? I love you?

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Speaker 2: He's Jewish.

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Speaker 1: He's Jewish.

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Speaker 2: That's okay, don't leave. Don't cut that out, guys, do

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Speaker 2: not cut that out.

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Speaker 1: He's actually irishman, he doesn't have red hair. No, why

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Speaker 1: do I like Jesse Solomon. I'm picturing like a red Ginger.

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Speaker 2: No, he's not a red Ginger. He's got big smile,

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Speaker 2: he's dark, he's tall. You wouldn't like him though, he

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Speaker 2: would not be in type. He doesn't look Italian at all. Perfect.

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Speaker 2: So so like he's kind of like flirting really heavily

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Speaker 2: with Sierra, And this is what I'm getting to because

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Speaker 2: there's so much other stuff going on, but he's like

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Speaker 2: starting to tell her he likes her, and Sierra liked

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Speaker 2: him last year wound up hooking up with West, who

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Speaker 2: of like said I just didn't like her on like

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Speaker 2: all these like platforms, and it really hurt her. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So now Jesse's coming and swooping into like be the

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Speaker 2: wounded bird and kind of like get Sierra and kind

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Speaker 2: of vulnerable. Yeah, okay, so I have a problem with that.

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Speaker 2: I do too, But what I have a bigger problem.

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Speaker 1: Is because he got her when she's weak.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, But I have a bigger problem with her

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Speaker 2: friend's encouraging it. Page and and and Amanda or like

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Speaker 2: did you see them they're talking? Did you see they're close?

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Speaker 1: I would have grabbed they wanted her to like get

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Speaker 1: over us by doing that.

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Speaker 2: No, she's over him. She she told him off at

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Speaker 2: the table and she said, you're a loser. Just want

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Speaker 2: to get this off my chest. And now they've had

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Speaker 2: a talk, she's over him. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So then yeah, you're like, I don't stand for this either,

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Speaker 1: So I wouldn't stand for.

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Speaker 2: Why are your friends like like so she had her

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Speaker 2: I'll say, maybe she's a little she'll get mad at this.

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Speaker 2: She might be a little bit vulnerable at the time.

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Speaker 2: And why did Page say, oh, kiss her feet or

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Speaker 2: lick her toes? Like I would be like if I

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Speaker 2: other couch, thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like let her let her be for a minute,

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Speaker 1: maybe when she's really.

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Speaker 2: How about let her be for good, Like I want

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Speaker 2: her to be out of like some bring your own

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Speaker 2: person in that house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, that's how I feel about that, And I

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Speaker 2: think that's the kind of friend you would be. I

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Speaker 2: would so right now, I love the girls, but I'm

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Speaker 1: Okay, got it. I need to really catch up.

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Speaker 2: Just watch last episode.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like I really want to like get

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Speaker 1: invested though, But it's been somewhere else, has been on

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Speaker 1: for so long. Isn't this their ninth season.

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Speaker 2: I'm surprised you've never been to one of their parties

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Speaker 2: in the Hamptons, like they have these theme parties.

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Speaker 1: Never been to the Hampton's. What I want to go

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Speaker 1: to the hampton so bad. All I've known my whole

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Speaker 1: life is the Jersey Shore. Do you know how bad

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Speaker 1: I'm dying to go to the Hampton's, Like, someone invite

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Speaker 1: me to the Hampton's.

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Speaker 2: Please, you don't need an invite, you just go. I well, yeah, see,

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Speaker 2: had I known that you and I would have would

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Speaker 2: have had a different conversation. I've never been because I

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Speaker 2: always say to the girls, like the young pretty girls,

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Speaker 2: I'm like, get your hosted a Hampton. Yeah I've never been. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: well that's a fun time.

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Speaker 1: Well you and my mom were just there last summer, right,

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Speaker 1: yeah Jill Zaren Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we were at Jill Zarren's party. Listen, we missed

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Speaker 2: the boat. For what I'm telling you to do, like

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Speaker 2: go and have a good time.

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Speaker 1: Like go to Surflage, Hey, go with your girlfriends and

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Speaker 1: have a g I want to do a weekend. I

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Speaker 1: want to stay at that hotel too, which is apparently

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Speaker 1: super nice.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Starts with maybe I'm lying.

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Speaker 2: There's journey, but there's one on the beach.

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Speaker 1: Just call maybe the beach.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So yeah, ja, yeah, I know you know what

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Speaker 1: So then obviously you know you're dynamic with my mom.

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Speaker 1: She talks about that place all the time like it

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Speaker 2: It was God's basement and the surf club.

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Speaker 1: Oh, surf club, forget it.

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Speaker 2: And everyone was crazy for your mother because she had

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Speaker 1: Oh thanks, really nice compliment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so cute. So always your mom was always innocent

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Speaker 1: No, it's funny. My mom says that Malania is her

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Speaker 2: Always would tell your mom, Milania's your boy. Oh, because

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent and my dad got it too.

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Speaker 2: I was actually Paul sent me a TikTok of Milania

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Speaker 1: She drove your father crazy, crazy, crazy, no nuts. I

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Speaker 1: But because you guys grew up together when you were younger,

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Speaker 1: when the show approached the women at the Ladybug Foundation,

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Speaker 2: So I was, and it wasn't. I think it was

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Speaker 2: We just want to be able to wear our Jimmy

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Speaker 2: it's like a Buddhakan.

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Speaker 2: told you, no, group of girls that they hang out

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom says it all the time. No one

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Speaker 2: No one knew what they were getting themselves into. And

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Speaker 2: you didn't fight the way that this fight started, and

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the show is like a little bit like

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, but no, I don't like what they

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Speaker 1: But it's that, it's how you guys were, and still

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Speaker 1: my mom will hold onto it. And now she's trying

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Speaker 2: Stuck, It stuck gea and it was not diluted then. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so the things that happened back then you still hold

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I was like, no, don't ask me, don't come back,

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Speaker 2: and and it was like then, I you know, Danielle

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Speaker 1: How was it watching that from the sideline?

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Speaker 2: I didn't watch it. I figured not for a reason.

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Speaker 2: I just didn't watch TV back then. Yeah, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: did I watch back then? I watched Ali mcbeil. That

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Speaker 2: was about it. I didn't even know, yeah, you wouldn't know,

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Speaker 2: then I was like, okay, I'm ready to come back on.

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Speaker 2: They were like, yeah, no, we have these twins now

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Speaker 2: and that was afterwards.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So then when that because that was probably the

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Speaker 1: worst season in Real House. I was in New Jersey

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Speaker 2: And they lost a million views. Amber, yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: It was a lot, so detrimental obviously to even Jersey

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Speaker 1: staying on the network was did they come to you

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Speaker 1: after that season?

438
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: No, I tried to go. Remember when we went to

439
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 2: your grandparents' house for the we went to the Cats

440
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 2: skills and we had a weekend there.

441
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: Yes, it was so much fun.

442
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: It was so much fun. And they were like, okay,

443
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: try out, you can come. And then they were going

444
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 2: to the Dominican Republic. Every So Mom would like kind

445
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 2: of like your mom, would you always your mom? She

446
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 2: would be like, come, what are you doing?

447
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,160
Speaker 1: Well, at the time, Jacqueline, you were still.

448
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 2: Jacqueline and Caroline. They were like, yes, what are you doing.

449
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: So they're like she, They're like, come on, just try it.

450
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: So I went and I would show up.

451
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: Remember those were the fun days though. Those were the

452
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:57,879
Speaker 1: best days.

453
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: I remember those every ounce of that weekend. We had

454
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 2: such a good time. And I would show up for

455
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: things like the the relay race of Tackle.

456
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: You were there too. I was, oh, my god, duh,

457
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: that's when I had my tantrum. Yes, oh I hate cheaters, guys.

458
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: She does. She's very competitive. She does not like cheaters

459
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 2: till this day. You don't know, but Frankie was kind

460
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: of laughing.

461
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: Frankie literally was like, wea. I feel so bad because

462
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 1: we were so close when we.

463
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 2: Were younger, so close.

464
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: That's when you and my mom would like fantasize like

465
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: oh these two.

466
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 2: Oh my heart, my heart so yeah, so like and

467
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 2: then finally I said to them, I'm not showing up

468
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: to these At that day, I said, I'm not showing

469
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 2: up anymore unless you're gonna unless I'm getting paid getting paid.

470
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 2: This is at least paid for my makeup like something.

471
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 2: And they were like, yeah, no, so then I stopped,

472
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,679
Speaker 2: and then then I was like, all right, let me

473
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 2: really try this. And they were like, okay, come and

474
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: bring it. Bring it this weekend and we had a

475
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,439
Speaker 2: great time. Your dad was actually twerking like and he

476
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: was doing John Claude vandam He wasn't turkey, he was

477
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:11,640
Speaker 2: doing like splits.

478
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 1: God, that's his signature, drunk move.

479
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 2: Yes, his signature. Your grandparents cooked all weekend and then

480
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: cried when we left. Oh so your grandfather cried. Your

481
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 2: mother goes, watch this, we're leaving. And if I had

482
00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 2: company like that, it would be like, get go out

483
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: of my house. They cooked for us, They gave us

484
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 2: their beds, they went up, and that is the Italian way.

485
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 1: You give the shirt off your you give the shirt

486
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,120
Speaker 1: off your back.

487
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 2: And they treated us like and I would be like,

488
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: oh God, are these people ever leaving? They were cooking,

489
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: but that was sag they had. Your grandmother was wait

490
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 2: making the deep fried potatoes.

491
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: She loves, Oh and.

492
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 2: Do that pole she probably did. And this went on

493
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: and it was the best food I ever had till

494
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: this day. And your grandfather cried, and we let my

495
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 2: dad's father, your dad's father, and he never ever cried.

496
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 2: He only cried when you would leave. Yeah, even if

497
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: he was seen you the next day, they never wanted

498
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 2: you to leave their house. Yeah. And then they told

499
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 2: me now again, they told me like no, now, Like

500
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 2: I could have been on in the beginning, but I

501
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: think they were going to use me as a sacrificial

502
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 2: lamb because I was the single girl on the show. Okay,

503
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 2: so thank god I didn't go timing as everything. Yeah,

504
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 2: and in between that time a lot, I had been

505
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 2: through a lot in my life, a lot of.

506
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: But you also could have helped so many people, which

507
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: I think, but I think at that time it was

508
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: everyone stays together, no one really gets divorced, and you

509
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: were the first to kind of come onto the show

510
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: and be like I've been through all this, right, and

511
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: which would have been also. But I'm saying if they

512
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: would have let you on during that time, I feel

513
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: like you would have helped so many women come out

514
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: and not be so afraid, because I feel like at

515
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: that time it was very frowned upon.

516
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: It was I didn't even tell the people in the kids'

517
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 2: schools that I was divorced because I was embarrassed. But

518
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 2: I had been through so much in that time, Gea

519
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,600
Speaker 2: and I learned so much. I have so much more

520
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: to give. By the time I broke up with somebody

521
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 2: I was dating at the time, and Jacqueline goes, try

522
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: to come on the show. Your mom was coming home.

523
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 1: And the first when they let you, that's when. It

524
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: was twenty sixteen. Okay, twenty sixteen, yes, okay, this is

525
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: making sense now.

526
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: And the first time I filmed with your mom it

527
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 2: was my birthday. It was December twenty eighth, and she

528
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: was going food chopping. I was taking her food chopping,

529
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 2: and it was so natural to be with her. Yeah,

530
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 2: and it was so good. And me and your mom

531
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 2: made a pack and said. Your mom said to me,

532
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: don't let this show come between us and our friendship,

533
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 2: and I never did.

534
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: When was the hardest point between you and my mom's

535
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: friendship while being on this show.

536
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: I think the past couple of years, I feel like

537
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: and I feel like I did really stand up for

538
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: your mom and her relationship because I always said, let

539
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 2: them be. Teresa has been through a lot. She can

540
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: handle this. Look how he is with those kids. That's

541
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 2: what I'm interested in things like this.

542
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: And because I mean, I mean, poor Louis he can

543
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: look left and they'll say something about him. And it's

544
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: not even just the people on the show at this point,

545
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: now it's bloggers. And once that starts, it's very hard.

546
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: It's a vicious cycle. Vicious cycle.

547
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Once once that it's it's very easy to fall

548
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,719
Speaker 2: from grace and it's very hard for to turn people's

549
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: opinion around once that starts, once that seed is planted.

550
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 1: So and it's so horrible because he's really and like

551
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: you said, he's so amazing to us and our family.

552
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: That's all that should matter. And I feel like Reesa

553
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: can handle. That's the biggest point that we've always been

554
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: trying to to like prove to everybody. But at this

555
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: point it's also come to a point of exhaustion where

556
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 1: it's like, say what you want. We're obviously happy behind

557
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: open end, closed doors, but I agree with you. I

558
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: feel like as much as it's my mom can handle herself,

559
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: and you know, he's very good to our family. I

560
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: feel like these past couple of years probably were the hardest.

561
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 2: It were the hardest because your mom felt like people

562
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,239
Speaker 2: weren't doing enough, but there was only so much you

563
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: can do. And then your mom gets a lot of

564
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: background chatter she from people, and your mom doesn't always

565
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: listen to the right people. I think that it's been

566
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: the past couple of years. Really. Yeah, I handled things

567
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: the way I felt was the right way. People see now,

568
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 2: I handled things the way they should have been handled.

569
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 2: I behind closed doors, I would say to everyone, you

570
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: guys are going overboard. Things are getting out of control.

571
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: Why speak to a blogger, Why speak to an ex

572
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: off camera? You know why? Why?

573
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: It's like you're investigating way too much? Yeah, and why

574
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 1: do you care this much?

575
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? So it was a lot of.

576
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: It's not because you care for the person, it's because

577
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: you want to hurt the person.

578
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: Well, there's intention behind everything. So I've learned not to

579
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: get mad at somebody unless they're intent. It's the person's intention,

580
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: and that's where you see me get the most mad

581
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 2: when I think someone's intention, not what they're saying, what

582
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: their intention is behind it.

583
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, because they knew there was nothing to attack my

584
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: mom with anymore, not for nothing. Okay, you can throw

585
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: the jail card so many times. It's like we've been there,

586
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: done that. That was like almost a decade ago. Yeah,

587
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 1: so now they were just trying to hurt the one

588
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: person that was closest to her that meant the most

589
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: to her besides her children, which was which is Louie.

590
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: So that's why to dig that hard. You're not doing

591
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 1: it to care for my mom. You're doing it to

592
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: really hurt her.

593
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: Right, So if you want to say something and then

594
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,479
Speaker 2: back off, friends always have to say something.

595
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it's so easy, like you

596
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: were saying on the other shows, because it's not that deep.

597
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: It's not that deep. I'm what I'm watching now, Like

598
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: they'll sit, they'll talk it out, and then they drop

599
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: like they're kind of dropping it there. There's always something

600
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: that's gonna come up. Of course, when you drag out

601
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: a storyline, it's a lot.

602
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, for sure.

603
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: So you know, I would love for our show to

604
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: come back the way it was in Ireland. We had

605
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: a great time in Ireland. That was a nice trip.

606
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: There was I feel like there were openings there was.

607
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was there was little holes that people could

608
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 2: have actually cohabitated if they stuck on that path. But

609
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 2: that didn't work.

610
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: I know, like it's always just kind of falls back

611
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: into that toxic, vicious cycle. So if you could have

612
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: your ideal cast back, because you obviously want Housewives to

613
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,959
Speaker 1: come back. I think everybody does a little bit. New Jersey, Yeah,

614
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: a little bit.

615
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 2: People miss it. People grew up with this. People like

616
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 2: they they're like, oh my god, I grew up watching

617
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: this with my mother. This is related. That's what I

618
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: get all the time.

619
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: Even now, it's the daughters coming up to me saying

620
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: I used to watch this show. I watch this show

621
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: all the time with my mom and we're the same age.

622
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: But she's like, I relate to you so much, or

623
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: people that come up to me, or I love sympathizing

624
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 1: with you and going through life with you. And I

625
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: feel like fans really go through that, especially with you guys.

626
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: They do. They do. They look us at us like

627
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: a mother, like an aunt, like a friend or somebody

628
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: who Yeah, everybody on our show has made mistakes in

629
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 2: their lives.

630
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: You know.

631
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 2: I hope that young girls at least see it and

632
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: they may make the same, but at least they'll know

633
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: what they are when they're going through it, you know.

634
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: So yeah, I would the truth. I would love to

635
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: see everybody come back. Yeah, I don't care what anybody says.

636
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: It's a little deeper than that. You can't be mediocre.

637
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: I'm not. I've been mediocre, like I said, your mom,

638
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 2: I said, Jen, Jen Jen. But I think the dynamic

639
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 2: I don't know the show without everybody in it.

640
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: Like, yes, but there needs to I feel like there

641
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: also needs to be crazy change so that this toxicness

642
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: also doesn't come back, like there needs.

643
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: To be there. But then they also try.

644
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: I feel like they also tried to implement very forthstanding

645
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: rules do not do this, like, do not do that,

646
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: but they were still overseen and the toxic, like, the

647
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: toxicity still came through.

648
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: So I say, better the devil you know than the

649
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 2: devil you don't. Yeah, if I if I some other

650
00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 2: girls come on who suck, hungry, thirsty, and I don't

651
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: know them, I don't know anything. I like knowing everything

652
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: about the people that I'm fighting with. Yeah, that's true.

653
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: We like to have some background knowledge. Oh yeah, so

654
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: then what I gotta get to know somebody all over again?

655
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: I know what they're capable of.

656
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,520
Speaker 1: Do you want someone new though? Do you want to

657
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: see some of the fass?

658
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: You know what I'd like to see on my friend

659
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 2: Christina Pastina.

660
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:28,719
Speaker 1: Okay, and then my doolo, are you on hold? I

661
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: have to ask, what do you mean hold? Did Bravo

662
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 1: hold you?

663
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 2: Oh? They told me. I can't say.

664
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: Exact I figured I just had to ask. Yeah, But

665
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: I hope you are. I feel like I have a

666
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: good feeling hopefully you are. But okay, I'm going to

667
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: ask you some real house has a new Jersey rapid

668
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: fire questions, and then we'll be done talking about Jersey

669
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: because it's boring. Nois who is the fakest in your opinion?

670
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: The fakeust? You know, I'm not answering these things, okay,

671
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: And I think everybody on the show has to be

672
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: fake at some point to get along with someone they

673
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 2: don't like.

674
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so everyone.

675
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 2: Everyone, everyone's fake at one point or another in the world.

676
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: Who's on ozembek me.

677
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: I knew you were gonna say me Margaret, and I

678
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 2: think jen Fest Yeah, Jen Aiden.

679
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, you're right. Yeah, everyone's basically admitted to it.

680
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, at that point, I don't think anyone else no, same. Yeah, Okay,

681
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm on the highest dose and it doesn't work anymore.

682
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: You're so skinny you don't need anymore. But I know,

683
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: like I know, it's hard to get off. But I mean,

684
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm not getting look amazing, thank you, but I'm not

685
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: getting off ever.

686
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: So bad. It's good for you.

687
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: Don't do it though, I mean, you were great before.

688
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: And who face tuned their Instagram?

689
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: Everyone? Every single person. Me and Jen Fessler took a

690
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,959
Speaker 2: picture at a premiere last night without it, and she said,

691
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: if I ever find out that these pictures, they were

692
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 2: so horrible they couldn't even be face tuned, she will

693
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: never talk again unless you delete those pictures. I said,

694
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,160
Speaker 2: you don't have to tell me twice them.

695
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, which housewive from another franchise would fit best on Jersey.

696
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: I'd love to see Chanelle I Am on Jersey.

697
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: Okay, she's a character.

698
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: She is so funny and painfully honest.

699
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah she is, and I need that. Yeah, I agree,

700
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: I'd embrace that. I feel like some Miami girls might

701
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 1: be good too.

702
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 2: Oh I love Marisol and Alexia. Yeah.

703
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I a good energy.

704
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 2: I'm curty. Yeah they're good.

705
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 1: Yeah good because I feel like Miami and then I mean,

706
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: Chanel I Am, but like my Emmy gives that same

707
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: type of energy. Yet nobody, Yeah, no one can meet Jersey.

708
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's true. No Atlanta give us a run.

709
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. I actually said that to Riley because I mean

710
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: it's been talked about in the press, but the new

711
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: Bravo show coming out that I'm on. Yeah, yeah, so

712
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: Riley Candy's daughter. I actually said to her once, I

713
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: feel like Atlanta and Jersey give same energy. She got

714
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: really offended by that.

715
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: Really why, I don't know.

716
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: She like looked at me and said, no, they're very different.

717
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, doesn't look like that to me.

718
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,879
Speaker 1: I was very surprised, but she got very offended when

719
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: I said that, that's not nice. It was kind of

720
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 1: me also trying to bond over something.

721
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

722
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, both of our moms are are on Housewives.

723
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: We're on Housewives. Just trying to try to break the ice,

724
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 2: break the ice a little. She didn't like it well

725
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 2: right off the bat. Then you know that that's the

726
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,280
Speaker 2: pace of the relationship that you'll have with that person.

727
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, very simple, which is pretty accurate. Yeah, with Frankie

728
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: getting engaged again, Frankie, congratulations, I texted him.

729
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,240
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm so happy.

730
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: That was a beautiful engagement as well.

731
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: They did it at the Saint Patrick's Cathedral. Yes, I

732
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: think my mom got married. Did she know or was

733
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: it the Newark the Newer Cathedral?

734
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, gorgeous, so stunning, but you love her?

735
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 2: Yes, so nice. She's Portuguese, so they're like Italian and

736
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 2: she's very family orientated, which I loved it. You know,

737
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 2: me and frank you are very close. Ge is so yeah.

738
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: I feel like we just got for our birthdays. I know, like,

739
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: did you know?

740
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: I didn't? Did I know that? I didn't know it

741
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: was gonna.

742
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess when we got lunch on my birthday,

743
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 1: so January eighth.

744
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: No, I didn't know then. I didn't know. He told me.

745
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: Oh right, He's like, okay, mom, can you help me

746
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 2: out with this because like I want to get engaged

747
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: next week or something.

748
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: It was quick, It was quick. Yeah, And what was

749
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: your reaction?

750
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I've been waiting for this. I

751
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: had a feeling it was coming.

752
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, now that Frankie just got engaged, you're probably

753
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: gonna let him enjoy his engagement, have his wedding, and

754
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: I'm assuming Paulie and you are gonna let them have

755
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: their moment and whenever the time comes between you two,

756
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:47,760
Speaker 1: it'll come.

757
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,879
Speaker 2: Whenever the time comes it'll come.

758
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 1: You know.

759
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: It's funny. I remember when I was divorced. Your mother

760
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: was very upset. She felt so bad for me. Do

761
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: you remember coming over the house when you little kids.

762
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: And this was when Frankie had the spiked y.

763
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, your mom felt. Your mom loves being married. She

764
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: loved being married, she likes being a wife.

765
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: I don't know why people push it so much on you,

766
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 1: because so many people are so comfortable just having a

767
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:20,839
Speaker 1: partner for the rest of their life.

768
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: I'm happy with a partner. I don't like to date.

769
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: I don't like like I'm not a like I would like.

770
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: I mean partner, but you guys are basically married.

771
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 2: I treat everything like a marriage. Like if I'm with someone,

772
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: I'm with them for at least five years, like four years,

773
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: like I'm a I'm a girl, Like I don't know

774
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 2: how people go on like three dates in a week.

775
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 2: That would make me so nervous with three different people.

776
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 1: I would I feel like, oh my god, this is

777
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,799
Speaker 1: too loose for me.

778
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 2: And I love that they do that. Yeah, but like

779
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 2: I just I don't know how I would do that

780
00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: because I'm like, not that I'm jealous, but I would

781
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 2: be like is this person screw me over?

782
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:02,279
Speaker 1: Like?

783
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 2: Is there another girl like? Well?

784
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: You? It's kind of that like back of the head talk.

785
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 2: I've never dated like that.

786
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like regardless you and Paulie are both

787
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: loyal to each other. You see a long term future,

788
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: but there's no rush.

789
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: There's no rush. I especially trusted somebody so.

790
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: Much, especially now your kids are getting married, your kids

791
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: are dating. You're enjoying this moment. You're not really rushing.

792
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,439
Speaker 2: Different kind of girl. I'm a different kind of girl,

793
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 2: and a lot of people, like my mom's of course

794
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 2: mad about it. My kids don't ask me at all,

795
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: is she Yeah? You know Frank got married. I saw

796
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: yeah that.

797
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I just never saw that in his yarsy future.

798
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know. I love Britt that like,

799
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: she's such a sweetheart. I just like always seeing like Frank.

800
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,800
Speaker 1: I kind of figured he would be like my dad

801
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: in a weird way.

802
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, just enjoying life. He not met a young girl. Yeah,

803
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 2: if he had to keep she's thirty five. Okay, he's sixty.

804
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 1: I did not know.

805
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's sixty. He turned sixty last year. She

806
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 2: agreed he died. She deserved that. Yeah, and I would

807
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: even shade him. She wanted that, she wanted that, and

808
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: she absolutely given that. Yes, And if I was a

809
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,359
Speaker 2: young girl, I don't. My mother used to say, oh,

810
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,479
Speaker 2: what are you wasting your youth? Don't let a guy

811
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: string you along, because then you miss out on so

812
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: much of your life. And then you have to start

813
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: out because if a guy doesn't commit to you at

814
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: a young age, that's not like you need to build

815
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: your life. And if you want a family, if that's

816
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: what you want, and she definitely wanted that. I meet

817
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 2: a lot of girls, Jia, A lot of girls that

818
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 2: say I was with some guy for like fourteen years

819
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: and we never got married, and now it's too late

820
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: for me to have a family, and it breaks me.

821
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: I had to no, No, they have an understanding. She's

822
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 2: not They're not gonna have.

823
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: Children, Okay, I mean yeah, because then by the time

824
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: the kid is twenty, Frank would think. Ye, that's where

825
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: I think. It's so crazy sometimes for when men have

826
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: kids so late. I know, I don't understand it. I know, well,

827
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: thank god they understand.

828
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 2: They came to that. I can't. I feel like Gobby

829
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: would have a stroke, debt, everyone would be dead I

830
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 2: would be dead and have nothing to do with it.

831
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 2: Anybody in the vicinity. Gabby's spitfire, spit fire, especially when

832
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: it comes to fread.

833
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:39,919
Speaker 1: She's head some care.

834
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: No, we need another go out again. No, I'm so faddy.

835
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: My mom literally keeps asking me when's Gabby's birthday? When's

836
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: Gabby's birthday? I'm like, not yet.

837
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: She's so cute.

838
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: She's like, we need to all go out together.

839
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

840
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you were one of the winners last seasons

841
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: on Traders. Gradually that was the best experience of my life.

842
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 2: Was it?

843
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: You know who I just thought about and who could

844
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: do it? My dad because it's in Scotland.

845
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

846
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: I was like, so good he could actually do this

847
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: and not some like production of like this person going

848
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: out there.

849
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 2: Like it's very different producing their Yeah, so it was.

850
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: I mean it was definitely. They have a wellness team,

851
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: so it was a hard mental experience, it was. But

852
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 2: like they're not they are not looking for drama. Like

853
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: they cut out some things that people would say that

854
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 2: probably wouldn't have have made them look great. Okay, things air,

855
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: you know, like what like Danielle sworn her kids on

856
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: camera and they said, no, we don't like that. Okay,

857
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

858
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: Yes, so they're cut from a different cloth.

859
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: So nice they it's not about the drama. It's about

860
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: the game and the strategy.

861
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: And I just wonder if, like your mom says, freshure

862
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: breath there, do you think you would understand the game.

863
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: I feel like the game is really difficult something it's.

864
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: Difficult to understand if you didn't watch Big Brother or

865
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 2: Survivor did your dad watch that stuff? I feel like

866
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 2: he doesn't.

867
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't watch this is the Discovery Channel.

868
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you know what though, your dad, your dad,

869
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: me going there not knowing the game helped me win, Okay,

870
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: because I wasn't strategic in trying to really find the traders.

871
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 2: I was just trying to survive.

872
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: Yes, So, because I was telling him how it was

873
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: a very like isolating situation and everything like that, and

874
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: he was like, I'd be fine. I was in prison.

875
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: He has to get it. He has to has to

876
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 2: get on that show. They already picked the cast for

877
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: this year. Yes, I know, but there's gonna be one

878
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,760
Speaker 2: in Ireland. I don't know if they just pick Irish people.

879
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 2: But I just saw there's a castle that they picked

880
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: for the Irish traders. There's the UK traders.

881
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: Oh so it's everywhere Australia. Okay, this could be something fun.

882
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: I just kind of thought about that.

883
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 2: Ge yet you know how to do these things? Get

884
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 2: your dad on there.

885
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, well traders casting, listen to.

886
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: Me, Studio Lambert if you want to show if you

887
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: think Tom Sandoval was funny, Joe Judae is hysterical. You

888
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: don't even know. You don't know what you're missing, you

889
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 2: don't know. You know, who's really nice? Sam Ashgari Britney Spears' ex.

890
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,760
Speaker 1: Okay nice, so sweet?

891
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: Who did you love?

892
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: I saw you and Krishelle got very close.

893
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I want to be her mom is

894
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: she has tight I feel like she's so tired. She

895
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 2: looks like a Barbie doll. She looks like a Barbie doll.

896
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: But then I look at them, I'm like, oh, they're

897
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 2: from California. They don't eat pasta like we like. She's

898
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,919
Speaker 2: like forty something. Yeah, and I would I would never think.

899
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: I thought I was yeah, she looks so young.

900
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: She's so young. I was like, it's so nice and

901
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 2: so humble and the biggest heart you ever saw in

902
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:09,480
Speaker 2: your life.

903
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 1: Oh I love that, And I'm obsessed with Gabby, Gabby

904
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: popping off, right, don't give you. Gabby gives no any

905
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: so funny Gay talks to wake up in the morning,

906
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: killing me.

907
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 2: She's hysterical and.

908
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: Is like, does she like say? And she's like that.

909
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: She's very smart. Oh yeah, but she makes like she's

910
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: smart with a funny edge and witty. But she's super

911
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: inherently smart. Yeah, she's a nurse, you know by trade.

912
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 2: Oh wow, she's an ran Oh okay, she was a

913
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 2: cheerleader to go through that.

914
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: I mean my cousins are auras. It's very hard, very

915
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: hard schooling Sierra too. Wow.

916
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 2: And you know about keeping their license?

917
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. Did Gabby still keep her license?

918
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 2: No, I don't think she needs. I'm like, Gabby, you're

919
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: a nurse, right, you still kept your likes? And Robbie's

920
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: funny them two together, hysterical her wife. Yet I love that.

921
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: So you have stayed close? Have you stayed close with

922
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: all the traders winners?

923
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? So we had a lot of press together. Yeah.

924
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: There's a big age difference from me. Okay, So you

925
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: know I love kids like I want to be everybody's mother.

926
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: I feel like you connected close with Dylan Efron.

927
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 2: Dylan e Fron, Yes, he was so nice to me,

928
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: treated me like a mom. He's very respectful. He's a gentleman.

929
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 2: If he hurt someone, he like cried, I'm like, oh

930
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 2: my god, where does this person come from?

931
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: Like?

932
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 2: What kind of people are these people? They're so nice?

933
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: Where is he from?

934
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 2: California's Zach Efron's brother? You know?

935
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: I just like found that out.

936
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: Stop it?

937
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, So did you ever meet Zac Efron? Because Zach

938
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 1: Efron was my childhood crush?

939
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I never met Zach.

940
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:54,880
Speaker 1: High school musical was my everything.

941
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 2: Really, you know why? I met Kenny Ortega he choreographed

942
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: high school music and Michael Jackson he was choreogra he Yeah,

943
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 2: he was Michael Jackson's choreographer. So I knew Kenny. Our

944
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,239
Speaker 2: take up very well. Oh that's so fun. But we

945
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 2: used to hang out at his house when Frankie was

946
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 2: filming the movie in California. Wow, but that's so what

947
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: am I doing here? I'm from Patterson? Why did I know?

948
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 2: But you guys to California.

949
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 1: This life has blessed you all. I feel like, with

950
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: so many amazing looks and you know obviously the good

951
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:29,800
Speaker 1: with the good comes with the bad.

952
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,240
Speaker 2: Nothing's for free, no, and that's what I say. Nothing

953
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: is for free in this world.

954
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,879
Speaker 1: Well, the Lris, thank you so much.

955
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: I love you. I love you such an amazing it's

956
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,839
Speaker 2: such an honor to be here. Thank you for having me.

957
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to have you on